The COMPLETE Mythology of Thor's Children: Magni, Modi, and Thrudr | Norse Mythology Explained

[@coreymckee4844]

In GOWR Thrüd is my favorite. Such a well written and developed character. Spoiler: The fact she gets her father's hammer and trains to become a valkyrie, is a nice touch too. Definitely want more of her in the future.

[@bijacz9679]

Might be hard considering this is the end of Norse saga, BUT its 90% sure that Atreus will get a spin off so who knows

[@coreymckee4844]

@@bijacz9679 i doubt this will happen, but IF we got dlc, it would be possible. But probably not..

[@KermitOfWar]

@@coreymckee4844 Corey did say that we aren't getting DLC...disappointing, I know.

[@andray310]

@@KermitOfWar Eric said that, but that’s not his call really. If Sony wants it, I don’t see SSM saying no.

[@kotaunknown]

I wanna playyy as her

[@theoleivald7388]

Jon, you forgot Thors stepson Ullr! And something almost everyone forgets is that Magne and Mode (Swedish names) are demigods. Which means that they inherited different divine traits from their dad. Magne inherited Thors strength and Mode got his bravery, which is fitting since “Mod” is Swedish for bravery. Thrudr or Trud is more mysterious, I’ve heard her being called “Trud the Mighty”, Magne is called “Magne the Strong” and Mode is “Mode the brave”.

[@italosblogtalkradio4279]

Thanks 🙏🏼 for the insight

[@jeremyjoyner9796]

Source? (Genuinely curious)

[@theoleivald7388]

@@jeremyjoyner9796 Niel Geiman’s book on pretty much all of the Norse myths. From Yggdrasil to Ragnarök. It’s a great read and he actually did his research.

[@jeremyjoyner9796]

@@theoleivald7388 Ty

[@derbyblade9572]

@@theoleivald7388 Thrud(lit. Strength) is Valkyrie. Thor and Sif daughter. Ullr is more like Odin double because in myth he temporary became Aesir chief god when Odin seek wisdom

[@TheIrishTea]

I think part of why Thor seems to show such a lack of favour towards Modi in GoW is because Modi resembles Thor more than Magni does.

[@davidwolfe6038]

Which didn’t make sense at the time but seeing as he hates himself kinda does. He also acknowledges that modi has problems. Modi was a creep and probably wasn’t the best to thrudd who seems to be the favorite

[@Moon_line]

@@davidwolfe6038 I’m sorry if this is a dumb question but why is modi a creep?

[@davidwolfe6038]

@@Moon_line in Gow 2018 it hinted at him being a pedophile. If you listen to him talk to magni says something about “getting the kid” for himself (talking about Atreus). He also says he’s going to get to know Atreus “really well” also hinting at pedophilia. In Gow ragnarok Atreus calls him a creep and modi’s sister thrudd actually being glad he’s dead is another hint. Also all the talk thor does of modi “having problems”

[@jaegercat6702]

@@Moon_line some of his comments about Atreus…hint at him being pretty messed up

[@KOCChristian]

@@jaegercat6702 he definitely was hateful for never being treat right by Thor so he acted ruthless to not look weak

[@coldermusic2729]

I am truely impressed with the amount of research put into these. There’s just so much unknown details about the Norse mythology, that it becomes very hard to navigate through it.

[@peakmayfield1827]

True, very true

[@noahscott7272]

Well, without a doubt, there is some research done…far less is actually applied or is even meant to be accurate: it’s very loose even with confirmed info.

[@spicesmiles]

💯💯💯

[@Jellygirl313]

Jon, might I recommend doing an episode on The Koopalings from the Mario franchise? I mean if you want an origin story that is certainly messed up) then I think you're in for a treat. Especially you have to compare their video game to their animated counterparts. Yes, they have "cartoon counterparts" in both "The Adventures of Super Mario Bros 3 and "Super Mario World." Heck, there's even the messed-up fact they're based on a creature from Japanese Mythology, called the Kappa. EDIT: WOW! So many like. Keep it coming people.

[@charlesnewman6468]

I love your content it helps me better understanding mythology

[@TheCsharkg]

You going to enjoy what the did with Thors daughter in the game I didn't think much of it till I saw this video but now I see how clever the game designers are and I'm impressed :)

[@Son-of-Tyr]

Funny thing is, in the original old Norse story, Óðinn gets pissed at Þórr for giving the horse, Gullfaxi, to Magni. He's primarily mad because it was the finest horse in the realm next to his own, Sleipnir. Óðinn also gets mad because Magni(who supposedly is only 3 days old when he lifted the Jǫtunn) is the son of a Jǫtunn. Kind of crazy when you know their family tree.

[@djholidaytv414]

So magni isn't Thor son ??

[@Son-of-Tyr]

@@djholidaytv414 No, his mother is the jötunn, Járnsaxa. Thor had multiple couplings with other consorts. Sif was his wife, but not his only woman.

[@daniluv2696]

I love you!! your video's are always so entertaining and just fun to watch! not to mention the knowledge that you share !!! I'm a big fan of what you do!!

[@Cobidropaband]

Watching this after the game came out you did a great job

[@Lupinemancer87]

The whole giant thing is a common misconception, most of the Jotnar are no different from humans in size.

[@Ando1428]

You have to remember that in the God of War universe that the world is covered in pandora box evils making any God we see a corrupted version of what we know. Faith only balances the skales a bit

[@mactheman4698]

As far as were aware that was only greece that got hit by the evil.

[@Ando1428]

@@mactheman4698 they said kept saying world in God of War 3. Plus we killed the infected. Pretty sure that let it swarm to other parts of the world. My headcanon though is that the primordial evil gets sent back in time with jourmangadr. It's fight with thor is supposed to push jourmangadr before it's birth. I think the primordial evil gets sent all the way back to where Zeus needs to seals it up in the first place.

[@peakmayfield1827]

Should just be "god" not "God"

[@LegendStormcrow]

@@peakmayfield1827 1st time I've seen a God when it should be god. It's usually the reverse.

[@ladydeath3463]

@@peakmayfield1827 shhhh

[@77icky]

Jon. I like your videos and love mythology. Do you have plans to do african of mexican mythologies?

[@LegendStormcrow]

I'd love to hear more about our friends south of the border, and to be frank, I don't know enough about most African mythology (ie anything not Egyptian) to know what I am missing.

[@dominiquewentworth5454]

He's done a couple Anansi tales he's said he's gonna expand on more ATR mythos

[@LegendStormcrow]

@@dominiquewentworth5454 Those were some good yarns, I just don't know any beyond those to know of any holes. Kind of hard to imagine an image of from 3 puzzle pieces, especially when one of them is a corner piece of the sky.

[@77icky]

@@dominiquewentworth5454 i saw the Anasi. One the ine i will be interested in seeing is Shango the African god of thunder and fire. And very few people mention latin american mythology. I would love to see more about Quetzalcoatl and Huitzilopochtli

[@SoranotRoxas]

Very cool! Been wanting to see this one for awhile 👍

[@teleriham6651]

It wasn't Gandalf that distracted the trolls until dawn it was Bilbo. Gandalf just broke the rock to let the sun hit them

[@teefa85]

It wouldn't surprise me if the alternate version of the myth involved Loki's shenanigans. It's as expected as Greek Mythology problems being caused by Zeus's latest bout of infidelity.

[@Michael_7060]

Smooth edit @13:49 😂 Love your videos man!

[@kingstonmclean5448]

“Buckle up your in for a treat” *ad plays…

[@pamelamays4186]

I love learning about mythology other than Greek and Roman.

[@CDub01-f5u]

Don't know if you've already seen it but I think you should check out the Netflix show Ragnarok. It's basically about personifications of the Norse gods and beings in modern Norway. It's really good imo. Main character is basically Thor. Check it out!

[@gabrielellis3334]

I don't think you paid much attention to the plot of Ragnarok all the god character's are reincarnated versions of themselves

[@CDub01-f5u]

@@gabrielellis3334 Yeah I probably should have explained it better that's on me, still good tho. Thanks for clearing that up 👌

[@gabrielellis3334]

@@CDub01-f5u no prob glad to help inform people on such a good show

[@Nyx-.-]

I would love to see more into depths of Lady Eir, she was a Valkrie as well and one of my favorites

[@patrickrussell8572]

Jon, do you think you’ll ever bring back your jingle you used to play during the intro to your videos?

[@MotherCola]

Xan you do an episode talking about thrud in ragnarok and the similarities between myth and game? Like the fact they made her a valkerie in training being connected with the two having the same name?

[@julianvdr8808]

Hey Jon, I love these videos. But it seems like you're focusing a lot on the Aesir side of the Norse gods. I was wondering if maybe you could do some stuff covering some of the Vanir gods? Like Freya, Freyr, Njord etc. Would really love that. But even if you just make other stuff from Norse mythology I'll always enjoy it :)

[@flashbackcrew7183]

Man, dosent anyone wish that some vikings survived just to continue the stories

[@LegendStormcrow]

It would have been nice if the Norse just wrote them down even.

[@christophernugent8492]

Ragnarök resolved the “two Thruds” quite well: writers gave her the intense desire to become a Valkyrie.

[@Lily.Hiragashi]

Omg keep up the great work

[@peakmayfield1827]

I love the "mere mortals" thing, nice touch. I find myself watching at least 1 of his vid every day, though it's usually more like 5/day

[@deaddevilking]

I've always figured if anyone would inherit the hammer of Thor it would be his daughter that's named after literally the word strength because if you think about it that is the most broad word for power whether it be intellectual emotional physical or magical just kind of makes sense you know

[@theanimeunderworld8338]

I can't wait for more norse gods we'll see in God of War Ragnarok Since it's basically going to be the God of War 3 equivalent to the norse saga, all the bosses will be gods.

[@NicheXCC]

I was wondering if you're ever going to disect Record of Ragnarock. Its a manga about a battle between gods and humans. Where every god in existance fights against humaniti's best. There's so much material for you to cover there that you're missing out. And i've been interested if you could also do some research on the valkyrie sisters as well.

[@Mr.CerealKiller]

The amount of research done, but cannot prononce Atreus is astonishing

[@SirToaster9330]

"Mom can we get God of War?" Mom: no we have God of War at home God of War at Home: Thor Love And Thunder

[@macewindu1]

OK but you could’ve waited until the eighth when it released on Disney+ before putting spoilers in a video

[@justineck5664]

I can't believe how disappointed i was that i didn't get to see the scrunchy babies.

[@samueldodge8077]

Most deities when their daughter is kidnapped:. Wow is me! I'm shall make it winter forever! Wah! Wah! Waaah! That Jotun when he kidnapped Thor's daughter: why do I hear boss music?

[@PatriotWatchman1776]

Happy to say I'm subscribed to the podcast. Great stories, John! Norse myth is my absolute favorite.

[@humbelduff2916]

Same

[@tracihills690]

Glad to see you Jon Solo

[@TommyBenjamin217]

I wonder if Modi is the son of Thor and Freya.

[@IsakJohansson08]

Hearing you pronouns the norse names is so funny and can you do the goddess Freya next please:)

[@noahscott7272]

Despite 2 games, he’s still pronouncing it Ay-tree-us.

[@pamelamays4186]

To me, "Love And Thunder" sounds like the name of a Metal Rock road tour.

[@ckmystik]

Awesome Vid 🤙🏾

[@nanoglitch6693]

No way you watched it all 20 seconds after it posted...but I agree 😅

[@3shutarmurg]

@@nanoglitch6693 u don't need to watch a messed up mythology to tell its a complete master piece

[@ckmystik]

@@nanoglitch6693 you got me!😂😂😂

[@nanoglitch6693]

@@3shutarmurg I agree with you also!

[@thehowlinggamer5784]

I'd love to see you cover some anime mythology. Seriously. Everybody's favorite, DBZ has some very messed up origins of the dragon balls with them originating from a story of someone who boinked or got boinked by a dog. I can't recall all the details of it, but it has something to do with the dog being killed or hurt, and the running off into the sky leaving behind 9 mystical pearls. This is the actual reason why there's 7 dragon balls, changed from 9 to seven to try and cover up the creep myth connection...

[@truekurayami]

Ok where is this myth from, because the only one I know of involving a dog and mystical pearls is about a priestess with pearls bound to different virtues and warriors with one commonly being a dog of some kind, with the pearls scattering after the priestess' death

[@Bookstodiscover]

Can you speak about fray and fryer, please?

[@renamon5658]

Can you eventually do the mess up origins of the seven deadly sins

[@wairimumukuria959]

I've waited for long for African mythology. Any chance that's a possibility Jon Solo?

[@februaryschild0216]

Norse Mythology!!! I can't get enough! of that and the cyclops scull.

[@Fantasygirl2001]

Both Tolkien and Lewis borrowed from greek, roman, and Norse mythology because they both loved myths and legends most people who write any and all kinds of literature take some of their ideas from authors who came before them

[@musicased9591]

Good prediction on Thor's daughter man!

[@mikailthomas1466]

10:31 what does that say?

[@MotherCola]

I loge how they did thrud and sif in gowr . They help atreus and kratos at ragnorok and thrud even gets thors hammer and trains to be a valkerie and are friends of our heros.

[@theanimeunderworld8338]

Can you do one of those Hercules movies in the late 2010s that bombed? like the one with The Rock?

[@denisemcdougal6445]

Interesting!!!! I enjoy your videos

[@yuu7965]

Yes yes yes another awesome videooo

[@nancyM1313]

Great one Jon❤ 👨‍🎓And I did watch the Harry Potter, wizarding world Ad - 20 minutes

[@pwnzormcduck6546]

They also explained that each pantheon is like a planet floating around in a galaxy full of pantheons. So I can't say what happened in Greece with pandoras box had any effect in Midgard.

[@paragchaturvedi3661]

And also, what was the book Jon Solo was reading about the Christians and the Norse mythology?

[@davidrish3605]

Hey john do you read about these messed up origan before putting them on your channel?

[@marcovangraan1066]

Captain Cuba has a theory that Freyr will be in GoW Ragnarök since Kratos killed his nephew

[@jeremiahingram5767]

Honestly I like the God of War's version of Thor more than the Marvel version

[@triumphkouassi1132]

Hey John solo how about next time you can do Heroes from Ireland please thanks from Ted

[@veronicacappelut6240]

When i saw that this video had spoilers of "Thor, Love and Thunder" I went and watched Love and Thunder, so I could watch the video. Lol

[@manisosaaa]

can you do a video on sif

[@mister1c490]

Gandalf didn’t distract the trolls, it was bilbo

[@lordrambo7898]

What’s with 13:49 ? 😂

[@tristonperry2378]

I’ve looked everywhere for magni and modi legends apparently I guess they’re not that popular on google?

[@glamorgirl911]

some reason I think magni and modi are the most popular of thors children and thrud is less well known there is also utlr I spelled his name wrong anyway utlr is a god of archer and I heard thor adopted him

[@AimsyLeigh]

I missed seeing Gunther at the end of the video 🥰 haha!

[@Guccipoooch]

Well this settles it, Odin poked the bear and fucked the whole future up for the Aesir gods because……… why? When someone is famously known for slaying gods and he’s just chillin in a realm near yours causing no harm, maybe chill and think about your actions

[@lucasamugune1231]

I haven't watched you for a long time

[@lekeathonwilson4817]

What’s the name of the hym song for the Norse portion

[@senjogaharahitagi482]

im here 33 second after the vid got release.

[@daffierpython7755]

I love thrud in gow but I really hope we get a corrupted Valkyrie boss fight against thud with mjolnir

[@Beastboy0123]

Especially with god of war ragnorok here I need to learn about these gods

[@paragchaturvedi3661]

Where can I find Prose and Poetic Eda?

[@jimsus69]

I love how old words become new words.. Like how magni "magnificent" and modi "moody" 😂 and Thrud "Thud"

[@The_real_fbi]

Kinda felt bad when I killed magni

[@cadeshanley218]

I have no doubt Love will become a member of The Young Avengers when she's old and experienced enough. I bet Marvel Thor would be horrified and disgusted of his God of War counterpart. He'd probably see him as a dark reflection of what could have been if Odin never banished him to Midgard to teach him humility and humanity and humbleness or never becoming a hero and an Avenger. And seeing his God of War counterpart as living proof of Gorr the God Butcher's belief that all Gods are vein and selfish beings who care for no one but themselves. Hell in Marvel Comics, the Original Nick Fury whispered that Gorr is right in Thor's ear and that made the Asier/Asgardian God of Thunder become unworthy of Mjölnir and made all other gods who try to pick it up unworthy. Which lead to the legendary hammer being wielded by Jane Foster in becoming Lady Thor.

[@FantasticExplorers]

John solo thank you for the spoiler warning at the beginning of the video I will come back after I've seen lLove and Thunder

[@tsigbegodwin7107]

What is the title of the movie?

[@richardfrankenberg4268]

What if the Giants in these myths are stories involving early Homo Sapiens encountering Neanderthals?

[@grandmasterchooda9385]

The way you said “Atreus” made me think you never even played the game

[@FAJINNN]

What if modi is still alive? Like I honestly cant count it until i see his dead corpse in the new game

[@dotslam1449]

I just would like to point out that the eda's were written during the times of Catholicism and as such have their interpretation of it. In saying that a giant misconception is that thor is Odin's son when in fact thor is odins father. The evidence of this, is norse beliefs are based on Germanic beliefs and has been discovered by archaeologist that woden/wotan was the son of thor. The info is harder to find due to the popularity of the modern literature but amongst archaeologist they have found evidence that says otherwise

[@truekurayami]

Nordic vs. Germanic vs. Celtic interpretations are sketchy in nature due to the intermingling of the cultures without solid records and how mythology evolves over time. It used to be at one point Thor was seen as the highest Aesir in Norse Myth instead of Odin due to dominion and character archetype but after the Nordic tribes started becoming more Kingdoms Odin took the lead as he was more in line of a King archetype compared to Thor's Warrior. Even Greek Myths have similar issues as Persephone actually predates her uncle/husband Hades as Queen of the Underworld sense there are records we have found with only Zeus and Poseidon as the sons of Chronos and Poseidon playing a lot of Hades role alongside what we know him played with the 3 sons of Chronos. or Eros being represented as the original creator Chaos, or as the son of Aphrodite and embodiment of one of the seven forms of Love in Greek Myths.

[@Shtummyyy]

One question that I've never found an actual answer for is why all of thors kids share his abilities. mimir said that every god has unique abilities so I never understood why magni modi and thrud dont have their own unique ability

[@ichigoapanchal9935]

I always thought modi wasn't human, but who would have known indian prime Minister modi was a norse god.

[@ericgonzalez934]

Thank you

[@athenvillegas6923]

Crazy how god of war does on the story telling and how things play out, with Thor’s daughter wanting to be a Valkyrie, makes the connection make sense to them Having the same name

[@Huntmasterpyro]

So are magni and modi half brothers?

[@Tarnthewarrior]

Thor ain't loyal

[@kingkabal2311]

Ok another question why does Odin try to change things before RAGNAROK if he is already doomed to die

[@gibsonm2900]

Please do Odysseus

[@mbg8733]

I hate how people don't know the size of giants is normally the same as aesir.

[@taekwongurl]

Nerdly happy about this episode. But I'm also watching it in conjunction with "The Rings of Power"...so... Edit: quotes for the dang TV show.

[@Jack_marston-y]

Does anyone know how old magni actually is ?

[@BadNewsBella]

Commenting to appease the algorithm Gods 👍🏾

[@SierNotsruht]

Actually modi was the one who lifted hrungnir in Norse myth

[@horseyfacetheglorious]

Jon do TMUO of Poseidon Percy Jackson: Sea of Monsters Pecos Bill

[@raymondjacksonjr.6060]

You know, if I have to say anything about magnum Modi is a yader, a bunch of a holes, but the thing is you get the feeling they're like this because of their father, who did this to them because of odin, oh wasn't a great dad to him in God of war ragnarok And by great dad I mean a dad who literally treated his son and heck his grandson's like shoot so it's kind of understandable but in a way you do get that thor Still loved Magni and Modi.

[@veronicareilly7112]

Have you watched Myths & Monsters on Netflix? It's about the history of stories. 😀💖

[@lilletrille1892]

Isn't Magne's mother Jernsaksa?