The COMPLETE Mythology of Thor's Children: Magni, Modi, and Thrudr | Norse Mythology Explained

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[@bromtaegan4606]

I think part of why Thor seems to show such a lack of favour towards Modi in GoW is because Modi resembles Thor more than Magni does.

[@davidwolfe6038]

Which didn’t make sense at the time but seeing as he hates himself kinda does. He also acknowledges that modi has problems. Modi was a creep and probably wasn’t the best to thrudd who seems to be the favorite

[@Moon_line]

@@davidwolfe6038 I’m sorry if this is a dumb question but why is modi a creep?

[@davidwolfe6038]

@@Moon_line in Gow 2018 it hinted at him being a pedophile. If you listen to him talk to magni says something about “getting the kid” for himself (talking about Atreus). He also says he’s going to get to know Atreus “really well” also hinting at pedophilia. In Gow ragnarok Atreus calls him a creep and modi’s sister thrudd actually being glad he’s dead is another hint. Also all the talk thor does of modi “having problems”

[@jaegercat6702]

@@Moon_line some of his comments about Atreus…hint at him being pretty messed up

[@SaltoDaKid]

@@jaegercat6702 he definitely was hateful for never being treat right by Thor so he acted ruthless to not look weak

[@coreymckee4844]

In GOWR Thrüd is my favorite. Such a well written and developed character. Spoiler: The fact she gets her father's hammer and trains to become a valkyrie, is a nice touch too. Definitely want more of her in the future.

[@bijacz9679]

Might be hard considering this is the end of Norse saga, BUT its 90% sure that Atreus will get a spin off so who knows

[@coreymckee4844]

@@bijacz9679 i doubt this will happen, but IF we got dlc, it would be possible. But probably not..

[@KermitOfWar]

@@coreymckee4844 Corey did say that we aren't getting DLC...disappointing, I know.

[@andray310]

@@KermitOfWar Eric said that, but that’s not his call really. If Sony wants it, I don’t see SSM saying no.

[@KOTA_UNKNOWN]

I wanna playyy as her

[@theoleivald7388]

Jon, you forgot Thors stepson Ullr! And something almost everyone forgets is that Magne and Mode (Swedish names) are demigods. Which means that they inherited different divine traits from their dad. Magne inherited Thors strength and Mode got his bravery, which is fitting since “Mod” is Swedish for bravery. Thrudr or Trud is more mysterious, I’ve heard her being called “Trud the Mighty”, Magne is called “Magne the Strong” and Mode is “Mode the brave”.

[@italosblogtalkradio4279]

Thanks 🙏🏼 for the insight

[@jeremyjoyner9796]

Source? (Genuinely curious)

[@theoleivald7388]

@@jeremyjoyner9796 Niel Geiman’s book on pretty much all of the Norse myths. From Yggdrasil to Ragnarök. It’s a great read and he actually did his research.

[@jeremyjoyner9796]

@@theoleivald7388 Ty

[@derbyblade9572]

@@theoleivald7388 Thrud(lit. Strength) is Valkyrie. Thor and Sif daughter. Ullr is more like Odin double because in myth he temporary became Aesir chief god when Odin seek wisdom

[@Jellygirl313]

Jon, might I recommend doing an episode on The Koopalings from the Mario franchise? I mean if you want an origin story that is certainly messed up) then I think you're in for a treat. Especially you have to compare their video game to their animated counterparts. Yes, they have "cartoon counterparts" in both "The Adventures of Super Mario Bros 3 and "Super Mario World." Heck, there's even the messed-up fact they're based on a creature from Japanese Mythology, called the Kappa. EDIT: WOW! So many like. Keep it coming people.

[@Rat-Bastard]

What great timing- At school (I'm in 8th) We just got put into new classes, and I chose mythology, and so later on next week we will be learning about Greek and Roman gods, and Norse mythology, so this is perfect for me to know more about thor, even if it is just knowing some stuff in the game or movies-

[@fernandorios474]

Knowledge is power :D

[@silentstormur9184]

@@fernandorios474 knowledge is power is time is money

[@peakmayfield1827]

You could learn about mythology in 8th grade? I just got into 9th and there were never any mythology option

[@barbarahouk1983]

I need to correct the idea knowledge is power. NO, knowledge in and of itself is not power! THE USE OF KNOWLEDGE IS POWER. But one cannot use knowledge if one does not obtain the knowledge first.

[@peakmayfield1827]

@/hvtrs8%2F-wuw%2Cymuvu%60e%2Ccmm-cjalngl-UAQ%3A4%605A6FXETNUxutU7-SGu True dat

[@coldermusic2729]

I am truely impressed with the amount of research put into these. There’s just so much unknown details about the Norse mythology, that it becomes very hard to navigate through it.

[@peakmayfield1827]

True, very true

[@noahscott7272]

Well, without a doubt, there is some research done…far less is actually applied or is even meant to be accurate: it’s very loose even with confirmed info.

[@Lupinemancer87]

The whole giant thing is a common misconception, most of the Jotnar are no different from humans in size.

[@charlesnewman6468]

I love your content it helps me better understanding mythology

[@TheCsharkg]

You going to enjoy what the did with Thors daughter in the game I didn't think much of it till I saw this video but now I see how clever the game designers are and I'm impressed :)

[@SoranotRoxas]

Very cool! Been wanting to see this one for awhile 👍

[@daniluv2696]

I love you!! your video's are always so entertaining and just fun to watch! not to mention the knowledge that you share !!! I'm a big fan of what you do!!

[@peakmayfield1827]

I love the "mere mortals" thing, nice touch. I find myself watching at least 1 of his vid every day, though it's usually more like 5/day

[@Cobidropaband]

Watching this after the game came out you did a great job

[@Michael_7060]

Smooth edit @13:49 😂 Love your videos man!

[@PatriotWatchman1776]

Happy to say I'm subscribed to the podcast. Great stories, John! Norse myth is my absolute favorite.

[@humbelduff2916]

Same

[@Nyx-.-]

I would love to see more into depths of Lady Eir, she was a Valkrie as well and one of my favorites

[@Lily.Hiragashi]

Omg keep up the great work

[@77icky]

Jon. I like your videos and love mythology. Do you have plans to do african of mexican mythologies?

[@LegendStormcrow]

I'd love to hear more about our friends south of the border, and to be frank, I don't know enough about most African mythology (ie anything not Egyptian) to know what I am missing.

[@dominiquewentworth5454]

He's done a couple Anansi tales he's said he's gonna expand on more ATR mythos

[@LegendStormcrow]

@@dominiquewentworth5454 Those were some good yarns, I just don't know any beyond those to know of any holes. Kind of hard to imagine an image of from 3 puzzle pieces, especially when one of them is a corner piece of the sky.

[@77icky]

@@dominiquewentworth5454 i saw the Anasi. One the ine i will be interested in seeing is Shango the African god of thunder and fire. And very few people mention latin american mythology. I would love to see more about Quetzalcoatl and Huitzilopochtli

[@mister1c490]

Gandalf didn’t distract the trolls, it was bilbo

[@Ando1428]

You have to remember that in the God of War universe that the world is covered in pandora box evils making any God we see a corrupted version of what we know. Faith only balances the skales a bit

[@mactheman4698]

As far as were aware that was only greece that got hit by the evil.

[@Ando1428]

@@mactheman4698 they said kept saying world in God of War 3. Plus we killed the infected. Pretty sure that let it swarm to other parts of the world. My headcanon though is that the primordial evil gets sent back in time with jourmangadr. It's fight with thor is supposed to push jourmangadr before it's birth. I think the primordial evil gets sent all the way back to where Zeus needs to seals it up in the first place.

[@peakmayfield1827]

Should just be "god" not "God"

[@LegendStormcrow]

@@peakmayfield1827 1st time I've seen a God when it should be god. It's usually the reverse.

[@ladydeath3463]

@@peakmayfield1827 shhhh

[@julianvdr8808]

Hey Jon, I love these videos. But it seems like you're focusing a lot on the Aesir side of the Norse gods. I was wondering if maybe you could do some stuff covering some of the Vanir gods? Like Freya, Freyr, Njord etc. Would really love that. But even if you just make other stuff from Norse mythology I'll always enjoy it :)

[@tracihills690]

Glad to see you Jon Solo

[@kingstonmclean5448]

“Buckle up your in for a treat” *ad plays…

[@teefa85]

It wouldn't surprise me if the alternate version of the myth involved Loki's shenanigans. It's as expected as Greek Mythology problems being caused by Zeus's latest bout of infidelity.

[@denisemcdougal6445]

Interesting!!!! I enjoy your videos

[@Fantasygirl2001]

Both Tolkien and Lewis borrowed from greek, roman, and Norse mythology because they both loved myths and legends most people who write any and all kinds of literature take some of their ideas from authors who came before them

[@Son-of-Tyr]

Funny thing is, in the original old Norse story, Óðinn gets pissed at Þórr for giving the horse, Gullfaxi, to Magni. He's primarily mad because it was the finest horse in the realm next to his own, Sleipnir. Óðinn also gets mad because Magni(who supposedly is only 3 days old when he lifted the Jǫtunn) is the son of a Jǫtunn. Kind of crazy when you know their family tree.

[@djholidaytv414]

So magni isn't Thor son ??

[@Son-of-Tyr]

@@djholidaytv414 No, his mother is the jötunn, Járnsaxa. Thor had multiple couplings with other consorts. Sif was his wife, but not his only woman.

[@patrickrussell8572]

Jon, do you think you’ll ever bring back your jingle you used to play during the intro to your videos?

[@ckmystik]

Awesome Vid 🤙🏾

[@nanoglitch6693]

No way you watched it all 20 seconds after it posted...but I agree 😅

[@3shutarmurg]

@@nanoglitch6693 u don't need to watch a messed up mythology to tell its a complete master piece

[@ckmystik]

@@nanoglitch6693 you got me!😂😂😂

[@nanoglitch6693]

@@3shutarmurg I agree with you also!

[@teleriham6651]

It wasn't Gandalf that distracted the trolls until dawn it was Bilbo. Gandalf just broke the rock to let the sun hit them

[@yuu7965]

Yes yes yes another awesome videooo

[@thehowlinggamer5784]

I'd love to see you cover some anime mythology. Seriously. Everybody's favorite, DBZ has some very messed up origins of the dragon balls with them originating from a story of someone who boinked or got boinked by a dog. I can't recall all the details of it, but it has something to do with the dog being killed or hurt, and the running off into the sky leaving behind 9 mystical pearls. This is the actual reason why there's 7 dragon balls, changed from 9 to seven to try and cover up the creep myth connection...

[@truekurayami]

Ok where is this myth from, because the only one I know of involving a dog and mystical pearls is about a priestess with pearls bound to different virtues and warriors with one commonly being a dog of some kind, with the pearls scattering after the priestess' death

[@MotherCola]

Xan you do an episode talking about thrud in ragnarok and the similarities between myth and game? Like the fact they made her a valkerie in training being connected with the two having the same name?

[@pamelamays4186]

I love learning about mythology other than Greek and Roman.

[@jimsus69]

I love how old words become new words.. Like how magni "magnificent" and modi "moody" 😂 and Thrud "Thud"

[@NicheXCC]

I was wondering if you're ever going to disect Record of Ragnarock. Its a manga about a battle between gods and humans. Where every god in existance fights against humaniti's best. There's so much material for you to cover there that you're missing out. And i've been interested if you could also do some research on the valkyrie sisters as well.

[@AimsyLeigh]

I missed seeing Gunther at the end of the video 🥰 haha!

[@paragchaturvedi3661]

Also also, are there any other Chanels like Jon Solo?

[@christianwilson3349]

Don't know if you've already seen it but I think you should check out the Netflix show Ragnarok. It's basically about personifications of the Norse gods and beings in modern Norway. It's really good imo. Main character is basically Thor. Check it out!

[@gabrielellis3334]

I don't think you paid much attention to the plot of Ragnarok all the god character's are reincarnated versions of themselves

[@christianwilson3349]

@@gabrielellis3334 Yeah I probably should have explained it better that's on me, still good tho. Thanks for clearing that up 👌

[@gabrielellis3334]

@@christianwilson3349 no prob glad to help inform people on such a good show

[@ericgonzalez934]

Thank you

[@nancyM1313]

Great one Jon❤ 👨‍🎓And I did watch the Harry Potter, wizarding world Ad - 20 minutes

[@burningboy14]

Can you speak about fray and fryer, please?

[@macewindu1]

OK but you could’ve waited until the eighth when it released on Disney+ before putting spoilers in a video

[@flashbackcrew7183]

Man, dosent anyone wish that some vikings survived just to continue the stories

[@LegendStormcrow]

It would have been nice if the Norse just wrote them down even.

[@februaryschild0216]

Norse Mythology!!! I can't get enough! of that and the cyclops scull.

[@renamon5658]

Can you eventually do the mess up origins of the seven deadly sins

[@davidrish3605]

Hey john do you read about these messed up origan before putting them on your channel?

[@musicased9591]

Good prediction on Thor's daughter man!

[@deaddevilking]

I've always figured if anyone would inherit the hammer of Thor it would be his daughter that's named after literally the word strength because if you think about it that is the most broad word for power whether it be intellectual emotional physical or magical just kind of makes sense you know

[@manisosaaa]

can you do a video on sif

[@veronicareilly7112]

Have you watched Myths & Monsters on Netflix? It's about the history of stories. 😀💖

[@lucasamugune1231]

I haven't watched you for a long time

[@Dragonsamurai300]

Shame there isn't more info on Brudr. Starting to wonder if other norse gods had kids aside from Thor, Odin and Loki.

[@wairimumukuria959]

I've waited for long for African mythology. Any chance that's a possibility Jon Solo?

[@justineck5664]

I can't believe how disappointed i was that i didn't get to see the scrunchy babies.

[@triumphkouassi1132]

Hey John solo how about next time you can do Heroes from Ireland please thanks from Ted

[@lekeathonwilson4817]

What’s the name of the hym song for the Norse portion

[@AsifTown]

The amount of research done, but cannot prononce Atreus is astonishing

[@samueldodge8077]

Most deities when their daughter is kidnapped:. Wow is me! I'm shall make it winter forever! Wah! Wah! Waaah! That Jotun when he kidnapped Thor's daughter: why do I hear boss music?

[@theanimeunderworld8338]

I can't wait for more norse gods we'll see in God of War Ragnarok Since it's basically going to be the God of War 3 equivalent to the norse saga, all the bosses will be gods.

[@IsakJohansson08]

Hearing you pronouns the norse names is so funny and can you do the goddess Freya next please:)

[@noahscott7272]

Despite 2 games, he’s still pronouncing it Ay-tree-us.

[@daffierpython7755]

I love thrud in gow but I really hope we get a corrupted Valkyrie boss fight against thud with mjolnir

[@gamerstheater1187]

"Mom can we get God of War?" Mom: no we have God of War at home God of War at Home: Thor Love And Thunder

[@Beastboy0123]

Especially with god of war ragnorok here I need to learn about these gods

[@paragchaturvedi3661]

And also, what was the book Jon Solo was reading about the Christians and the Norse mythology?

[@pamelamays4186]

To me, "Love And Thunder" sounds like the name of a Metal Rock road tour.

[@theanimeunderworld8338]

Can you do one of those Hercules movies in the late 2010s that bombed? like the one with The Rock?

[@MotherCola]

I loge how they did thrud and sif in gowr . They help atreus and kratos at ragnorok and thrud even gets thors hammer and trains to be a valkerie and are friends of our heros.

[@paragchaturvedi3661]

Where can I find Prose and Poetic Eda?

[@gibsonm2900]

Please do Odysseus

[@tristonperry2378]

I’ve looked everywhere for magni and modi legends apparently I guess they’re not that popular on google?

[@pwnzormcduck6546]

They also explained that each pantheon is like a planet floating around in a galaxy full of pantheons. So I can't say what happened in Greece with pandoras box had any effect in Midgard.

[@The_real_fbi]

Kinda felt bad when I killed magni

[@FantasticExplorers]

John solo thank you for the spoiler warning at the beginning of the video I will come back after I've seen lLove and Thunder

[@athenvillegas6923]

Crazy how god of war does on the story telling and how things play out, with Thor’s daughter wanting to be a Valkyrie, makes the connection make sense to them Having the same name

[@senjogaharahitagi482]

im here 33 second after the vid got release.

[@ycarusgamer5187]

Bragi,Idunn,Njord,Ran,Aegir,Forseti,Nana,Hodr/Hoder and Ullr/Uller Along with the Odin's brothers Hoenir,Vili and Vê They exist in the God of war universe But they haven't appeared yet but there are Quotes/references to them but nothing about Hermod,Meili and Vidar & Vali If they will exist or appear in the next dlcs or next game Make a video about these forgotten Gods like and Bye!

[@glamorgirl911]

some reason I think magni and modi are the most popular of thors children and thrud is less well known there is also utlr I spelled his name wrong anyway utlr is a god of archer and I heard thor adopted him

[@ycarusgamer5187]

just imagine In the third game Forseti along with Sindri,Sinmara,Hermod,Vidar and Vali could be the next Villains Avenging the death of the Gods and the destruction of Asgard with a new Asgard building and they try to get revenge on Kratos and Atreus/Loki as well as Hela/Hell the Loki's daughter,Sigyn and the Loki/Atreus himself as a villain he is the final boss would be incredible to see and still bring the Dead Gods back Like an extra secret plan of Odin that maybe he could still be alive just like his Huggin raven Who Survived the final battle and this can be used in some way with the help of Forseti and also Thor could still be alive and bring back the Thor's sons and Baldur & Thor himself and they could also include the Norse heroes Siegfried/Sigurd and Beowulf They like Enemies for us to face and also the animals of Odin,Freyr and Thor That the wolves and the Horse from the all father Odin,the Boar of Freyr Gullinbursti and the Thor Goats did not appear as well like the good and peaceful Gods who were mentioned in 2018 but have not yet appeared such as: Bragi,Nana,Meili,Idunn,Hodr and Ullr and also explain who the mysterious wolf Hrodvitnir is the possible father of Skol and Hati and explain what's happened to him and where he is and it would also be amazing to fight Against the Kraken and explain what happened to the 3 dragons brothers What did we free and where are they Imagine all these characters/Gods,more stories of the giants who died for Thor but were not placed and told/used in the game,More Valkyries,Norse Heroes and Animals/Creatures appearing in the next game or in more dlcs would be incredible another game to close the Norse Saga and also an origin game Telling the stories and living them as they really happened Mainly showing Feye's story With the stories of Mimir/Freya and the Mural/Tales of the giants and seeing the news giants that were not placed and their stories were not told because in the original mythology some that were not placed and they were killed by Thor together It would be amazing to see the others Vanir and Aesir Gods and their War that These others Gods exist in this universe would be great I hope this happens in the future.. 🤔🥺😎👍🙏🙏 like and Bye!

[@GrimmShadowsII]

I have an idea that I don't know if it's addressed in Norse mythology. I pretty sure that the warriors who go to Valhalla are supposed to participate in Ragnarok, so is it possible that Thor's son's go there and then survive for one to get the Hammer? Maybe god's/demigods only truly due during Ragnarok otherwise they go to Valhalla, atleast in the God of War mythology.

[@truekurayami]

The ones you are talking about are the Einherjar which required the Valkyries taking them to Valhalla, so with all the Valkyries aside from Freya Trapped without the sidequest neither Magni nor Modi could become Einherjar. Also the gods/demigods in Norse mythology can die outside of Ragnarok as Baldr does die before Ragnarok starts in the normal mythos along side the fact Freya and Odin marry to end a war between the Vanir and Aesir two separate races of god that had killed untold numbers of each other before the marriage brough a cease-fire.

[@kaiumeda6341]

Jon do TMUO of Poseidon Percy Jackson: Sea of Monsters Pecos Bill

[@tsigbegodwin7107]

What is the title of the movie?

[@mikailthomas1466]

10:31 what does that say?

[@marcovangraan1066]

Captain Cuba has a theory that Freyr will be in GoW Ragnarök since Kratos killed his nephew

[@veronicacappelut6240]

When i saw that this video had spoilers of "Thor, Love and Thunder" I went and watched Love and Thunder, so I could watch the video. Lol

[@amat1411]

So are magni and modi half brothers?

[@Tarnthewarrior]

Thor ain't loyal

[@christophernugent8492]

Ragnarök resolved the “two Thruds” quite well: writers gave her the intense desire to become a Valkyrie.

[@tommyrichardson21706]

I wonder if Modi is the son of Thor and Freya.

[@jeremiahingram5767]

Honestly I like the God of War's version of Thor more than the Marvel version

[@donutlord_81bb]

Does anyone know how old magni actually is ?

[@sahuanitasahu7696]

Noted

[@FAJINNN]

What if modi is still alive? Like I honestly cant count it until i see his dead corpse in the new game

[@taekwongurl]

Nerdly happy about this episode. But I'm also watching it in conjunction with "The Rings of Power"...so... Edit: quotes for the dang TV show.

[@BadNewsBella]

Commenting to appease the algorithm Gods 👍🏾

[@waba1231]

how he call thrud

[@3shutarmurg]

Thor Odenson 🙂

[@SierNotsruht]

Actually modi was the one who lifted hrungnir in Norse myth

[@kingkabal2311]

Ok another question why does Odin try to change things before RAGNAROK if he is already doomed to die

[@smiththeinspiringanimator7042]

Awesome and cool! ^_^

[@Shtummyyy]

One question that I've never found an actual answer for is why all of thors kids share his abilities. mimir said that every god has unique abilities so I never understood why magni modi and thrud dont have their own unique ability