The Messed Up Origins of Brok and Sindri | Norse Mythology Explained

[@JonSolo]

Thanks for watching, Pimple-Shrimps! What did you think of how Brok and Sindri's mythology was used in the game? ▼ Podcast Links! ▼ » Apple: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/jon-solos-messed-up-origins-podcast/id1631064271 » Spotify: open.spotify.com/show/0zC1NxCX576HHQUoYCuGDo » Google Podcasts: www.google.com/podcasts?feed=aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5tZWdhcGhvbmUuZm0vbWVzc2VkdXBvcmlnaW5z » Amazon Music: music.amazon.com/podcasts/e2ab5016-5166-4670-b0a3-7c6ade06947d/jon-solos-messed-up-origins-podcast » Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/podcast/jon-solos-messed-up-origins-podcast » iHeartRadio: iheart.com/podcast/99117988/

[@dawall3732]

There is one power they gave the hammer that seems to be a bit of a secret. They gave the hammer the power to resurrect the dead to full life. The only problem is that it can't fix broken bones. So if someone breaks the bones of the dead, it will resurrect the dead, but the bones will still be broken.

[@Cman04092]

​@@dawall3732 thats neat. So theoretically Thor could pulverize all your bones, then revive you, and you'd be a unless immobile blob of meat and flesh!

[@dawall3732]

@C Man In the mythology that actually happened to 1 of the Rams that pulled his chariot.

[@hackman669]

Hi Johnny boy 👦

[@daddybdpearson1]

I am so tired of everything linking to the game "God of War". There was Norse mythology and Greek mythology before that game. In fact what the game says about Norse mythology is different from what I heard from other places. "God of War" is probably a good game but I'm tired of hearing it get linked to everything.

[@kennethtraver7628]

So Brok died by a spider bite, huh? I thought there was a smithing accident that killed him, but the spider is a pretty cool callback to the original myth and the "fly" that bit him.

[@Spyrodelta]

Ong

[@ajaybikramrana3439]

I knew it i thought it was a snake not a spider but he died of a poison bite and the poison made his body blue .

[@dipsetplanz]

When I heard in the game "accident at The Forge" I thought DAMN THEY'RE GOOD🤣

[@matthewgranados5125]

When you got that spider bite on your hand, I thought we would have to break up the band

[@williamrix5581]

Well technically a spider bite still could be classed as "an accident in the forge"

[@shadictheworst]

I'm really glad to hear that someone else acknowledges that Sindri isn't accepting responsibility for Brok not being able to have an afterlife because it was really bothering me how he was blaming Atreus as if Sindri's selfishness wasn't the reason that Brok was missing part of his soul.

[@thegreatgamingkid8252]

Sindri knows this deep down. Part of his grief is denial.

[@lamaalomar7553]

But Atreus is the person that made brok die so it would be his fault

[@themannis479]

@@lamaalomar7553 actually Odin killed brok….. as we all know, so really there is no blame but for Odin

[@crimsonraijin1367]

Indeed, I agree. It's just a coping mechanism, Sindri doesn't wanna look wrong because he felt he did the right thing bringing his brother back. which was a good and bad since we got to meet Brok and Him, but because sindri stayed attached to brok now there will be no second chances and it will be harder for him to grow past his brothers death. He should have simply let go like Brok said.

[@Zenith07]

I agree, it wasn’t Atreus fault as well… they where deceived and tricked something atreus wouldn’t know, and also the fact that after Sindri revived brock he basically doomed him for eternity for not having an afterlife, doesn’t matter if he survives through ragnarok, he lives long and a happy life but he’ll still die with no afterlife.

[@bizarroguy6570]

15:15 We actually hear from Mimir that he knows the actual Lady of The Lake, and even mention how she wanted to forge “a legendary sword”. Which definitely makes me think that we could see Celtic myth at some point in the God of War series.

[@myzo247]

So this sword.. is it the aerondight/excalibur?

[@bizarroguy6570]

@@myzo247 apparently

[@bizzaroblake2519]

​@Paul Sumabong I thought Excalibur was a part of a test merlin used to crown the true king of Camelot england?

[@trainerrichard6859]

@@bizzaroblake2519 that’s caliburn if I remember correctly

[@animo358]

That, and the Kelpie, make me think that Scotland up next, not Egypt

[@KillerTofuDrums]

I loved their friendship. Super cute family dynamic

[@codetheartisttv3880]

Super cute

[@OlyChickenGuy]

Sindri was the name of one of my first rescued roosters that kicked off a decade of providing safe harbour for these very unwanted animals. Due to this, I've since held a very special place in my heart for the myths and legends surrounding his namesake.

[@rudebodega]

It’s a good example of why they keep Loki around even though he’s always causing trouble: his antics usually (but not always…) end up benefiting the Aesir when all is said and done

[@AkaiAzul]

Adversity makes us better when we overcome it. Loki is the catalyst for adversity.

[@jacobchildress1930]

I agree with you Jon. Sindri, being a resident of the Nine Realms, had to have know that resurrecting Brok like that would have repercussions and would likely be worse if he died again. I think he believes it’s just easier to lash out at everyone and blame Atreus than it is to admit he never should have revived Brok. If there’s an expansion to Atreus’ story, they’re gonna have to tackle this head on.

[@michaelcoast1216]

As a fellow dad, the "your mom" joke was in your top 5

[@squashmallow2006]

Also, I don't think Sindri denies his role in losing Brok, but again, he's grieving. Cut him some slack. And I doubt Sindri would fall that far. If Freya of all people could come back and reconcile, then Sindri still has a chance too. As Mimir said, give him time, lad. He'll come around.

[@OnitaFreeze]

I do have to say it's a great way for the games creators to subtly speak on correlation and causation. If he never made the leviathan axe brok would've never died to begin with and he wouldn't have died the second time to no longer exist at all because Kratos wouldn't have gotten it and they wouldn't have found "Tyr." Sindri is affected by thr correlation that Kratos and atreus found "tyr" seeing them as the cause of broks official death. When the actual cause was his own. And he's not able to see that through his grief and the horror that well...his brother can't even have an afterlife because of all of this. I think that has to be one of the worst fates of these characters, brok never truly healed. He never got an apology from his brother, he probably couldn't never get that part of his soul back. Before then the lady of the lake, whom he had wanted to speak to for SO LONG didn't even acknowledge him and that's how he finds out! And he has to do all of this through ragnorok happening to inevitably be killed AND HE WAS STILL RIGHT ABOUT WHAT WAS HAPPENING! As you can tell I love brok 😂

[@kaylynwilliams3807]

Hi Jon! Have you watched a show on showtime called Yellowjackets? I know you’re not a theory channel, but being so well versed and talented with researching folklore I think it would be really cool to see an episode analyzing the possible creatures that could be influencing the events of the show. I love your channel so much and admire how dedicated you are to breaking down the origins of fairytales, folklore and myths.

[@taekwongurl]

Someone based Brok and Sindri's relationship off of their own sibling relationship lol

[@jensenrogers6611]

Hey Jon! Here's a particular request for a topic you haven't touched on yet (if you have, sorry I don't remember): could you talk about the two wolves who chase the moon and sun? It just sounds like such cool imagery and you can't get enough cool wolves in any mythology. Fenrir is, of course, the alpha hands down, but I wanna hear you talk about the other two. Your channel is my go-to for mythology!

[@ahem.choice.spirit]

You might like "8 Dogs and Wolves of Norse Mythology," by Ocean Keltoi here on YT. He discusses the wolves that chase the sun and moon, along with Fenrir, Garm, and others

[@carlosalbuquerque22]

I wrote a book called Fallen Máni that features them as the main villains!

[@ericastones1052]

Basically by the time I start work on a Thursday you drop a video. Explain why I keep missing your uploads because of my job which I am not blaming you for just my life to earn a living. But I do look forward of learning more facts on my days off.

[@TheRogueCommand]

I didn't realize the 4 parts of the soul concept was actually part of Norse myth. I figured it was a reference to the 5 pieces of the soul in Egyptian mythology (another way of hinting that other pantheons exist), and maybe that would be the quest for the next game; helping Sindri find the last piece so Brok can rest in peace. I suppose that was wishful thinking on my part.

[@SpookyDisneyPrincess]

I would LOVE for that to happen. Brok’s death absolutely devastated me 😭

[@bizzaroblake2519]

I don't think it would be possible considering that final piece is in alfheim and possibly one with the light

[@7hepenguinMan]

​@@bizzaroblake2519 Kratos can go to the light without dying sooo....

[@bizzaroblake2519]

@PenguinMan So did freyr, atreus, and sindri. But when a soul is one with the light, they can't be separated from it. That's why faye could be heard before but not anymore after visiting alfheim in ragnarok. Also if all of the soul pieces aren't separated in the soul placing process, they get placed in the intended location. End of story

[@7hepenguinMan]

@@bizzaroblake2519 I mean The Light laser beam in alffeim I don't think Atreus or Sindri went there?

[@stephentwest]

This was such an interesting and informative video! I had no idea about the dark origins of Brok and Sindri from Norse mythology, and this video shed some light on their complicated past. It's amazing how many layers there are to these characters and how their story has evolved over time. I loved how this video broke down the myths and legends surrounding these characters and helped to explain their significance in Norse mythology. Keep up the great work, I can't wait to see more videos like this!

[@KERRYPIKE]

Excellent origin story of Brok and Sindri.

[@xxond6627]

Don't lie Jon Solo I knows there's a time you thought... " cant lie.... I look like Loki"😂😂

[@theanimeunderworld8338]

I just wonder how Sindri will be in the next game

[@trevorphilips194]

i’m not sure if there WILL be another game. but i hope there will be.

[@theanimeunderworld8338]

@@trevorphilips194 Ragnarok was the end of the norse saga. Not end of all games I think Kratos should have died like the mural showed so Atreaus could have taken on the mantle but he wasn't fun to play

[@EbraheemMa]

Since Ragnarök is the end for the Norse saga, I don't think that we will ever see them again, like we won't see Mimir, Freya or Sindri maybe not even Atreus

[@JoshuaDeamhan]

I just hope Atreus doesnt turn into a shit lord.

[@crispy_bearjuice456]

​@@JoshuaDeamhan they should make a spin off with him

[@ogbreeze1081]

I listen to your videos as like bedtime stories to get some sleep. Appreciate your content bro.

[@expressiondestination6430]

Fucking thank you I thought I was the only one who was kinda like "fuck sindri" it his fault his brother is not nothingness

[@nomado.3855]

You're not the only one brother, many people started to realize that, although too late 😮.

[@thegreatgamingkid8252]

That’s a bit too much. Denial can be a caustic thing. Understandably, he’s in a major down point that isn’t always solved by just hugs and kisses. Although, he knows part of it is his fault. It’s just a denial thing that manifests in him taking it out on others.

[@mightylion6432]

​@@thegreatgamingkid8252 how he helped Atreus and kratos gave them everything all for them to come back with a fake tyr that cost him his brother. All these things you guys are blaming sindri for bringing Brock back how ? If it was any of you who had a chance to save or bring back your brother wouldn't you do it.

[@thegreatgamingkid8252]

@mighty lion Sindri was right alongside them in allowing “Tyr” into the house. Everybody there got tricked except Brok. Not only that, but you forget all of the times that Kratos and Atreus helped Sindri and Brok too, especially in the last game. Whether other people would do it or not is irrelevant, Sindri going back to grab Brok from death was a selfish decision driven by his desire to not be alone, which he said himself. He even refused to tell Brok this until his death, knowing how much it would hurt Brok. Because of that decision and his inability to grab all 4 soul parts, Brok has to pay the price of not having an afterlife. Even if Sindri dies, or any of their family, Brok will never be able to see them again or be at peace (unless something changes later on but I don’t think it would do go good tor the consequences of this story I’d they were to).

[@expressiondestination6430]

@mightylion6432 thats not the point, sindri took 3 of broks 4 souls parts, so he knew when brok died again that'd be that. He was too much of a coward he not only allowed his brother to live with an incomplete soul, but he didn't tell him because he'd me mad. And after all of this he's mad that he couldn't see it was the real Tyr. Fuck they've been dealing with Oden how long and they never expected it? Sindris pain and toil is all on his own hands

[@chloermartin]

If you haven’t already, you should do the origins of sirens, and how they went from being birds with human faces (greek mythology) to mermaids! I absolutely love your channel!

[@YoungSmokeyvp_7]

@Jon Solo I’ve listened to you tell some of the same myths a few times and it never gets old. 😂 I used to specialize in the arts and humanities (mythology) for my academic squad back in the day and you got me my passion back for it 💪🏾

[@dracone4370]

Easter is this coming Sunday; maybe next year, we'll see a video on the Messed up origins of the Easter Bunny. That said, I suggested this in a prior video's comments, but I think it could be fun to see a video on all the varieties of Hellhound for this year's Halloween season, and Jon can even dress up his puppers as different hellhounds, and if they pop up mid-video, he can use that as a part of the video related to which Hellhound their outfit is modeled after.

[@pauldavisjr.3284]

Damn dude another banger of a video. Thank you!😁

[@jayceewilliams5250]

Surprised the spider didn't bite his testicle with how weird greek mythology be

[@anomaly_jackie]

East Coast Odin is the best description of this game’s depiction of him i’ve ever heard

[@N9Entertainment_]

i like the way this guy talks. randomly watched this video but the outro..lmao. subbed

[@АнтониоАсенов-г2п]

Jon, you're amazing. I love your videos, but can you make a video where you talk about the beginning of the Nors Metology. I mean, how it was created how Imir was born how he gave birth to the Giants and everything else .❤❤❤😊

[@gLobbZ]

I totally agree with you, Sindri had no right to bring Brok back all because he was afraid to be alone. The responsibility for Brok not having an after life falls to Sindri alone.

[@Steef_Lee]

Not sure how it took me this long to discover this channel, but I’m glad I finally did. Now, on to binge your content in an unhealthily obsessive manner.

[@Honestlydek]

Finally! I've been waiting ❤😂 Thank you💃

[@dreadpooll]

4:39 🤣🤣🤣 caught me off, guard.

[@PierreVB-514]

Amazing episode Jon ! Keep up the great work 🙂

[@2kwik40]

This man Atreus was wildin 😂😂

[@brotquel1592]

I loved the beejezus out of those dwarves in the game, what happened to Brok really hit me. Thanks for doing this episode.

[@lashonnakennybrew4847]

I truly been waiting for this video for years the two drawers finally gets a video about them amazing

[@chloermartin]

I love Norse mythology so much! I do love the classic Viking trope/stereotype, but it would be so interesting to see a video on their history and what they were most likely actually like! Granted, that would be less mythology and more history lol.

[@3shutarmurg]

I could listen to this mans outro on a 24 hour loop

[@erikarussell1142]

I love that I have absolutely no Fucking clue what you’re talking about, but I still completely know what you’re talking about. Lmao thank you so much for dumbing this down for us plebs.

[@davidwest6162]

You better be subscribed

[@erikarussell1142]

@@davidwest6162 I’ve been subbed for quite a few years now.

[@carold8950]

Super cool lore, Jon! ✨

[@dylansearcy3966]

If it wasn’t for Snorri or the other nameless poets, we wouldn’t have these stories

[@FranksReviewsFigures]

Yesssssssss been waiting for this for, well since GOW 2018

[@leviathan8215]

I don’t know how I didn’t put together that you are a pagan, but that’s so awesome! Me too!🌟

[@Typeonediabetessucks]

Same

[@alexandriacollins7119]

Sub-sects of the Norse Soul, sub-sects of the Egyptian Soul, sub-sects of the Shinto Soul... you should do a video...

[@kirbymarchbarcena]

Makes me wonder how Loki was able to shave her head without getting awaken from her sleep.

[@SWITCHITUPREVIEWS]

Ayyy new video!!!

[@WolfSpirit8808]

I really hope to see stories of King Arthur soon

[@TheOfficialGarr]

Something I really appreciate about the Norse Duology of God of War in particular, even if it's true throughout the franchise, is how complex the situation with Sindri really becomes, especially in terms of what is said towards the end. Everything that happens to the Huldra Brothers is more or less a direct result of Sindri's decisions, but even if you are correct in saying "Sindri brought this all on himself", it never translates to "Sindri deserved it". I find it a fascinating distinction.

[@dexter-soldier2]

16:39 ur playing gow 2018 ng+ i know that bcz thats the Cod of War armor

[@vaporkay7831]

0:09 "You put him last, even in death"

[@squashmallow2006]

SPOILERS FOR GOWR: . . . . . Sindri lost Brok because of fake Tyr/Odin. In the MCU, we have Eitri AKA Sindri, who lost all his dwarf brothers, which means Thanos killed Brok in the MCU. . Brok really can't catch a break.

[@devilseyecry]

Hi Jon, thanks for the upload. Never knew about the podcast and about Brok's first death. Can you make another video explaining their true nature about them being a huldras? The one where Mimir refuses to explain to Atreus cause he was too young. What are they and what do they do?

[@addilinechagoyan4908]

Im curious if you will ever do the origins of Easter or the Easter bunny themselves with this month being the month of Easter. I would love to hear you talk about it

[@TheGodofWar-xe5dx]

My only knitpick is, If Brok's skin (ingame) is blue because of the death, why wouldnt Sindri mention it when he brings up Brok's death. And Brok never uses his skin as a reason for knowing he died. Perhaps it truly was just silver?

[@stefhonsmith6547]

I never knew about the Podcast, Also really did not thought of Sindri's Actions and Decisions either.

[@horseyfacetheglorious]

Do TMUO of Pan / Triton / Dionysus / Poseidon / PJO Sea of Monsters

[@JDABORDUM]

i hope they can somehow find a way to get broks 4th soul bit out of the lake of souls or at least get the ability to talk to brok and give sindri some closure

[@Dragonoid9810]

Yeah, I had the same exact reaction towards Sindri smashing Odin's Soul Marble. He really did bring it all upon himself, no matter what way you try to look at it. Edit: Yeah... They've already gone on record and said that Ragnarok is the last Nordic game for GoW. If they do decide to continue adding to the series, they'll more likely visit Egypt since they couldn't after the OG trilogy like they originally wished to

[@victorialynnstruble]

Wait.... dis you say the lady of the lake was supposed to be a mermaid? Where that episode?

[@lilynumber9510]

love your vids dude!

[@Beorneofmercia449]

what makes me laugh is how people nowadays pronounce odin’s spear GUNGNIR gug nir

[@mrrobluxo2369]

I feel like I can see Sindri being a boss for Atreus since he seems to point most of his anger towards him

[@mkoch7736]

I love your Norse mythology videos! You always reference God of War (great game) but I'm surprised you don't reference Assassin's Creed Valhalla. If you have not played it, you REALLY should. It follows the Norse mythology beautifully. It's not exact, of course, but it's so cool.

[@deborahcox7784]

Thank you, Jon.

[@Eddieavina123]

Love your video Jon Solo

[@Madman117KL]

I knew it was Loki the second time he mentioned the fly it just seemed like something he’d do 4:58

[@meganharrington6268]

Love the comedy in this one 😂

[@renzoramos4630]

You don’t know how long I’ve been waiting 🎉

[@SoSwiff]

Can you do the messed-up origins of the smurfs?

[@arturotorres5663]

Ok but when Loki was sick Brokk told Kratos: don't worry kids are tough why when i was his age i cut my own head clean off... so are we just gonna ignore that??

[@meadownel2401]

Hot damn so many likes in just 4 hours remember when the gole was only 5000 you've come so far ❤

[@proffesorspiderlastname5654]

Sindri isn't staying mad at everyone else forever, it was his first reaction but it's not happening for the next game, maybe mentioned but he's not going to still be mad at everyone else since you see what he was like at the funeral.

[@riadhdewan7349]

Are you playing god of war ragnarok new game + ???

[@AdriannaDaFox98]

You forgot the other 2 artifacts that Thor uses Megangjord and Jàrngreipr aka his Girdle of Strength and Iron Gauntlets used to lift and control Mjolnir as the actual Hammer is actually extremely heavy

[@justinabakugou5813]

Hey Jon Solo I don't know if you already did this but can you do the messed up origins of Easter? (I truly don't know if he did it or not)

[@deborahcox7784]

Hi, Jon!

[@magic5557]

The spider story would be a good way to explain his limp.

[@mysteriousone9829]

Hey Jon how about a video on Sir Twardowski?

[@justinabakugou5813]

AWESOME JON

[@Sungura_Kaiser]

Brokkr translates to Badger? Funny, because I've said for the longest time that Brok looks like a honey badger. lol

[@PandaGamer69420]

Lets go new norse video

[@fernandorios474]

I do miss him now!!! Like, I walked a mile in Sindri's shoes BEFORE this God of War came out

[@darriendastar3941]

Posh Spice in group therapy??????? With Asgardian mythological figures????? That girl is constantly moving up in the world! Really good (or godd if you're into typo determinism) video.

[@alstonxq]

125k people have been dissed by him and he'll never suffer a comeback.

[@kandipiatkowski8589]

I'm not into this type of video game, but I love the Marvel movies. This video raised a question: is the character Eitri (the character played by Peter Dinklege in Endgame) the same mythical character mentioned in this video?

[@KnightsRealm98]

Yes. Eitri, the Dwarven King of Marvel Comics/the MCU is an adaptation of Eitri the craftsman from mythology. Much like most of Marvel's Norse characters, though, quite a few changes were made to the character

[@andrewgrissom1419]

Man really said Aetrius

[@johnapodaca3327]

I love MUO. Could you do a video about poseidon?

[@vibe1270]

9:55 why do you pronounce Atreus like that? no one says his name like that

[@Phantom86d]

I thought the mermaid was a call to the Wagner Rhinemaidens. Since a reclaimed ring of gold was about to start Ragnarok.

[@DEMONOFLOVEANDDEATH]

Bless the Solo Cup

[@TraeFury]

Sindri is gonna go head to head with Atreus (Loki) in his game. I hope it ends well. i love Sindri too. Broke my heart following his story in GoW 2022.

[@constipatedinsincity4424]

That's where Brack made his Carmel and Neopolitine

[@calebtheholyman545]

God that thumbnail goes hard AF

[@bigjon8744]

The thumbnail is so dope 🔥 that alone made me click the vid lol

[@rabbitwooden2184]

Good vid..... thank you.

[@kirbymarchbarcena]

Is it really true that dwarves and other characters say "f-u-c-k" in Norse myths?

[@ultimatevtgb7551]

Yes, but in Old Norse

[@laylonidiamondz8447]

Thanks Jon😊

[@brantracine1161]

What was the song at the end credits? Does anyone know?

[@rockinHurley777]

Amon amarth sing about this.. "mjolnir, hammer of Thor ".. epic song 💪