The Complete Saga. The Lore of FATAL FRAME 2!

[@TiptoeTheTank]

Original post: shorturl.at/dsyBX TLDR: KZbin suppressed the original uploads of this video. It's caused a nasty chain of events with the channel that have been concerning. This re-upload is an attempt to appease the Algorithm God. - - - - - Hello, friends! I swear I pinned a comment on this video, but KZbin is just being a real asshole about everything. We're doing our best to get the channel back on track! If you want to help out, just letting the video roll helps immensely! Tossing it a thumbs up also helps, or sharing it with a friend you think might like the content. I'm not going to let this setback stop the flow of content. We'll see you very, VERY soon with some CONTROL and Alan Wake content. -Tip

[@Mashida_Killzzz]

Love the fatal frame series got this in my recommendation!!✨😎 plus as a bonus I live in Japan so Japanese horror is my JAM!!✨😺

[@_TinyTitan]

Does this mean what we are seeing now isn’t the full episode? It’s highly edited? 😭

[@ryanedwards7487]

You should really do a lore review of Eternal Darkness. First off -- female protagonist in a horror game...back in 2003 or so. I know there was "Haunting Ground" back then too, but that's impressive. Secondly, very immersive story and background on all the characters involved. Third...it's Halloween time and it's time for my yearly replay of it.

[@TheJmoreno126]

Putting aside all the magical demonic supernatural things, what I find weird, is the unbelievable amount of twins that are born on that village.

[@faiyoake]

Could be the magical demonic supernatural stuff making sure there were twins

[@rhast57]

I think I read that this village actually has an unusual amount of twins born, and that's why the village decided that they were to be sacrificed. This was their 'destiny' its what they're 'born for'

[@RivkahSong]

Apparently being near the hellish abyss would sometimes cause one soul about to be born in that valley to split into two, becoming twins (normal twins are two separate souls). That's why the Crimson Sacrifice would even work, they were SUPPOSED to be one person and through the ritual it would cause their one soul to partially re-fuse, leaving one half of the soul alive as the living twin to serve as an anchor in the living world for the other half of the soul which dwelled as a crimson butterfly in the spirit world. They are basically a suture stitching the abyss closed for as long as the surviving twin is alive. Once they die they also become a crimson butterfly protecting the village. Itsuki and Mitsuki's ritual failed because it required one twin to WANT to die and become one again and one that wanted to live with their twin so they could serve their roles as the suture. Mitsuki and Itsuki, however, both wanted to live and so Mitsuki's soul didn't complete the stitch.

[@LegendOfKitty]

There's a place in Brazil known for it's high levels of twins. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%C3%A2ndido_God%C3%B3i While it would be really unlikely, places like exist, and in the Fatal Frame universe, Minakami Village must just be one of those places.

[@RonaldoLuizPedroso]

There is a genetic component on the incidence of twins a community can have a higher than usual incidence

[@sXeScythe]

I played this game in Japanese. The way the story unravels is beautiful. It's also sad that many key aspects are lost in translation. From the very beginning Mio refers to Mayu as Big Sis (onee-chan /お姉ちゃん), so when you read those diaries and files about the Ritual and find out that the older twin must kill the youngest, you are led to believe that Mayu will end up killing Mio. Not only that, but the way Mayu keeps insisting in performing the ritual and the way Sae keeps haunting and harassing Mio, makes you believe that she's eager to kill the sister you play as, it's not until the later half of the game where you find that piece of information revealing that it is actually the second twin to be born the one considered to be oldest, more mature and stronger. This idea of Mayu killing Mio is reinforced by the way some ghosts attack. Some of them try to reach out for Mio's neck to strangle her. The only way to know which sister is the oldest in the American and European versions is by reading the game manual. In the original Japanese version, the first piece of dialogue spoken is that single word ONEE-CHAN. Also, the name Mayu (繭) means "cocoon", foreshadowing Mayu's wish of becoming a butterfly.

[@peterholmes7440]

The fatal frame series: where eternal trauma, suffering and guilt is the happy ending.

[@Jarmymon]

I love the fact that you put both parts into one video! I know I’m only one person but I much prefer a longer single video than one with multiple parts. Even if you upload in parts having the option for one video rather than multiple parts is great for me. Thank you! I really appreciate it!

[@retro.raider]

I agree! Love long videos the most

[@StollenBunz]

same! love the longer more detailed videos. you can see the love put into them.

[@_paku]

The first time I played this game that ending caught me by surprise so hard I ended up crying, lmao. Still loved the game a lot, but it was frustrating cause everything felt like it was for nothing tbh... On my lastest replay I wondered if maybe Mayu wasn't the only one being possessed/controlled, maybe Mio also had something latched onto her at the start of everything (I mean when she saw a mourning Yae at the entrance of the Village) What if Yae was willing to finally finish what she "should" have done back then, that might explain why everyone confuses Mio with Yae and how mindlessly willingly she ended up strangling Mayu at the end. I know this is the one canon ending, but if you think about the "Promise" ending, the only good one, Yae comes out of Mio's body and comes back to Sae. I don't know.

[@MaxusFox23]

That seems to be the implication, yes. In the house with double bridges, Yae lets Mayu in through the door while Sae does so for Mio (the Shadow Festival ending in CB also shows both Kurosawa twins in place of the Amakura twins when the Repentance happens again). Not to mention it's said in FF1 that continued used of the Camera Obscura can drive people mad, just like Yae herself was subjecting herself to in that same games flashbacks. I wouldn't be surprised if the Camera made Mio's sixth sense grow strong enough and inavertedly invited Yae in to possess her just like Sae did with Mayu.

[@MylkT1023]

What I REALLY love about your way of story telling is how you combine the information given with the tone of telling a really enrapturing ghost story. Yeah, the game's plot and lore is tragic, but the way you tell it makes the listeners/viewers/players/fans feel like this is the first time hearing about it and they want more!

[@tonysack-a-titanite7497]

“Safe, happy, kittens! Okay now back to the lore..” “yeah so they basically peeled the dudes and threw them into the abyss” lol

[@faiyoake]

I wonder if the last Kusabi’s lack of fear towards his fate impacted the effect his ritual had

[@LeedleLee457]

I'd love to see a video on Fatal Frame 3 as well. Personally, I think 3 had the most interesting story and location. Love the idea of a haunted mansion that only exists in dreams, where those in a coma are trapped in. It just gives so much Nightmare on Elm Street vibes.

[@zhybw1ld]

Which 1 is 3? I have the elipse of the lunar mask

[@DapperDanMan64]

@@zhybw1ld I guess 1 + 3 = 4

[@zhybw1ld]

@@DapperDanMan64 dont know what ur tryna say I only crimson butterfly is the 2nd

[@DapperDanMan64]

@@zhybw1ld technically I just answered your question. Mask of the Lunar Eclipse is the 4th game. :)

[@zhybw1ld]

@@DapperDanMan64 i dont know what u talkin about homie

[@rhast57]

I always wondered, Itsuki knew the village needed a Kusabi.... and then he asked his friend to come? I'm wondering what he thought would happen? Maybe he just didn't think out of grief and worry?

[@FeraNelia]

It's explained in the diaries: his friend Ryozo Munakata decided to come by himself, Itsuki never asked him to come to the actual village, only to come meet Yae and Sae after they escaped from there. But Ryozo became worried for Itsuki after his last letters and persuaded his teacher to come with him to the village, where Ryozo tried to look for Itsuki. Itsuki was surprised when he found out his friend was at the village, and knew that the villagers would use him for Kusabi, which is why he wanted to tell his friend to leave quickly and asked Chitose to deliver Ryozo a key to Itsuki's room (which she never did). Hope this helped clarify things👍

[@ultraspec842]

I actually thought the canon ending was both of them surviving but Mio got blinded when she accidentally stated at the Abyss while pulling Mayu out of it.

[@_paku]

Unfortunately FF3 confirms that the Crimson Butterfly ending is the canon one :(

[@norscout3031]

this is my pick for scariest game ever made, i couldn't finish it back in the day

[@abdeljaliil3676]

It is a shame you don't get to fight Sae as the fonal boss in your first playthrough and have to wait until the second and nightmare difficulty. I imagine most people dont even get to do it and just fight the Kusabi.

[@rebeccamcmanus4718]

So those hypocrites couldn't even stomach strangling her like the ritual demands? No wonder it didn't work.

[@BullyPop]

Thank you for a cohesive version!! Would die to see you do the rest of the series, Fatal Frame is series immensely dear to my heart

[@The80Kat]

This is my favorite horror game of all time!!!!!! Been begging for a hd remaster for almost 20 years

[@xxartimisxx]

The canon ending of this game is so beautifully chilling…

[@jamesabernethy7896]

I watched both parts, strangely in reverse order because I missed part 1 on release. I watch several really good gaming retrospectives and lore channels. I love how you perform your voiceovers, setting the mood but never afraid to slip in a little comedy to keep us on our toes. The only videos I have watched are your Fatal Frame videos but I was so impressed I subscribed. These are some of my favourite games of that era, but I also watch videos of games I haven't played so I will catch more of your videos later.

[@TiptoeTheTank]

Original post: shorturl.at/dsyBX TLDR: KZbin suppressed the originals of this video and it has caused a huge, scary problem with the channel. This upload has minor modifications, in an attempt to appease the Algorithm God. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hello, friends! We are doing our best to save/salvage this video. If you wanna help, just let the video roll! Maybe toss it a thumbs up. Share it with any friends that might enjoy it, if you're feeling really feisty. On we go! To new projects, new stories, new triumphs. We ain't stopping. We're going to adapt/change/plot. See you very, very soon with CONTROL!! -Tip

[@gerald9815]

9:22 to 9:30 is my favorite part of the game. it really etched in to my head up to this day

[@KeyfurDragon]

“Some finales are better seen than told…” *video cuts to an advert for a toilet cleaner 😂😂😂 what timing

[@Viryl_TV]

Heh. Couldn't have planned that better ourselves. KZbin out here trolling on our vids 😄

[@faiyoake]

By games 4 and 5 you’ll be tearing your hair out over how many camera obscura would be credited to the same guy

[@danielarmendariz6133]

I love that you’re coving this series. You do an amazing job of storytelling. You’ll do a great job covering it all

[@kolin9395]

my goodness im so thankful for your fatal frame summaries, you explain everything so well and clearly in this video and the one before this. you've saved me from taking probably more than a week of watching gameplay just to get into the lore. ❤

[@kolin9395]

cant wait to watch all the rest!!

[@Athlynne]

Amazing, you've given me so much more knowledge of and appreciation for Fatal Frame 1 and 2 now. Thank you! Are you going to do any more Silent Hill, and Fatal Frame 3?

[@kinasakuraba]

I never liked the canon ending. I never really understood how, if the ritual failed, the whole world didn't end up like the village? What were they really doing this for, to not have to leave? Spoilers for the video because I was warned not to when I started to comment. Something about giving these jerks what they want doesn't sit right with me, but I also understand that's what makes it so horrifying. For Mayu to have no control over her own actions, and for Mio to try to desperately to save her. I always thought the first game was scarier, but I do love this one too.

[@kagekun1198]

I'm glad to see another person who recognizes Mio's ability. I know PTSD and grief are a thing, but I can't accept that Mio, a girl of such extraordinary resilience and resourcefulness canonically was overcome by despair by this ordeal. She deserved better.

[@saturnaliatryst]

Hi there! At certain points in the video there are cutscenes or video clips of scenes I don't remember being in the game. For example, 18:28 through 19:08. Is this from a particular version of the game or perhaps a movie or trailer or something like that? I'd love to know if anyone can answer!!

[@_paku]

Yess, the game had promos with these cinematics before the official release, but there also was a 4D experience in Japan which most of these cinematics come from. I could never find that 4D movie, but you can find some recordings from people that went there on YT.

[@saturnaliatryst]

Thank you so much! I'll look around for those!@@_paku

[@faiyoake]

The bit in the time stamps can be seen in the fatal frame 2 trailer

[@cyberslink1320]

I was waiting for the plottwist that Mayu was dead all along, that she had die when she had that accident as kids and that Mio couldn't proses that she was the one that kill her and lie to herself that she was still alive, and that all this long it was the ghost of Sae taking the shape of Mayu to attract Mio to complete the ceremony. I guessed that the ritual "worked" because the death itself is not the important part but rather the action of killing your own sibling and the amount of feelings it releases so the ending would have been just a methapohore for Mio accepting that she was the one that kill her so that she, and probably the ghost of the true Mayu, could move on. If this is explain in an alternative ending or is a popular theory or something I would be so proud of myself lol.

[@bumble_ki]

I hope you do all the fatal frame games (all but the last one). These Informative videos are great recaps for me as I replay the games.

[@1hitkill973]

Absolutely love your narration. Liked and subbed. 👍

[@MrDark086]

I watched both original uploads already, but this should do great to fall asleep to. Think it'll do anything to my dreams?

[@hunterofcomedy]

Found your channel by chance but I love it! You've got a new sub! Also, I really hope you end up doing all the fatal frame games. You're style of telling the lore is interesting and your voice is relaxing. Really enjoyed this and the first game's lore. Watched a bunch of your other lore vids now (the legacy of kain vids were awesome!) and I can't wait to see more from you in the future!

[@SideCharacter12303]

I’d LOVE to see you do lore videos on the next 2 Fatal Frames 😍 their stories seem a lot more difficult to follow especially Mask of the Lunar Eclipse but your lore vids are just the absolute best, the Fatal Frame ones, Death Stranding and the Zelda ones are my favourite comfort videos at the moment ☺️ Thanks for telling the best stories!!

[@nickarnicar1816]

All hail the algorithm 🙏🧎

[@madhippy3]

You are the second YTer Ive tried to listen summarizes this and while I think you did better for only tackling one game at a time this all still baffles me.

[@vaanknight]

I hate this ending, and it's made worse because it's the canon ending (as plainly seen in FF3). I was enraged with it back in the day and only the "good" non canon ending gave me some peace. Living in darkness but with a satisfied smile on my face after getting my little sister back safe and sound? That's a no brainer trade.

[@nicolefajardo3658]

I totally agree! Plus what upsets me the most about the canon ending is that in the end Sae got what she wanted AND neither of the sisters did any of this on their own free will. Sae basically possesed Mayu the entire time and Mio was roped into it by Sae's sister too. One thing is sacrificing yourself wanting to save the souls, another is just doing it for selfish reasons (Sae) and just manipulating two innocent girls into it. At least FF3s good ending (where everyone survived) shows Mio introduced by her uncle to the others and clearly starting to recover from all of this.

[@GenAqua]

Love these videos. Hopefully we get the 3rd video next.

[@LarryXLR]

Lady of Lore is the folklorist who tells the lore of the folklorists.

[@demiraichan]

Love the video, always found this one to be the saddest, especially with that ending. Love the look at horror game lore too (haunting ground would be really cool, or rule of rose, tho clock tower would b cool too)

[@klassytome]

I hope you are planning Fatal Frame 3, Fatal Frame 4 and Fatal Frame 5 essays. Especially since Fatal Frame 5 and Fatal Frame 4 were recently released on Steam.

[@mattyspoons777]

Thank you Tip! Love your work!

[@luiserodriguezserrano4287]

Is it incorrect for me to interpret the gate and abyss as the same entity just manifesting in different aspects along eith the other dark gateways that appear in the rest of the series?

[@peterholmes7440]

Pretty sure it is. It wouldn’t make sense for things so similar to be different things.

[@randomscb-40charger78]

@@peterholmes7440 In Mask of the Lunar Eclipse, I find it weird that the Kiraigou is like the only ritual that doesn't require a human sacrifice, just dance to a song that the spirits find a bop, find five girls to play the necessary instruments, and then all the spirits on Rogetsu Island pass on.

[@ZanoxisStreaming]

I really like the longer video format.

[@nanyafahkinbiznes1352]

Smartest villager: Pack your stuffs we're moving in the cities.

[@nixnaccc]

i’ve watched this video and the other fatal frame video as well. i would totally love more videos of the rest of the fatal frame games! i like 3, 4 and 5! CAUSE THIE AND THE FIRST VIDEO IS SO GOOD!

[@helenamccarthy6174]

Love the longer videos!

[@gagaplex]

So many different access points to hell. I might just move.

[@Imorajna]

Are there any plans for future lore of Fatal Frame titles? I love it. Cant get enough

[@lichking410]

This one of my favorite horror series. Really enjoy your content. I'm so glad xbox FINALLY got the English version of 4 and 5.

[@lordhades9759]

Deeply loved both videos on Fatal Frame, secretly hoping for Fatal frame 3 video too

[@loewenalia]

I love your vidoes. Can't wait until you do the 3rd game.

[@lyzder7298]

I was wondering why the video was suddenly unlisted

[@Qardo]

Just people know. The ending is one of many different endings. The ending we saw was kind of the "bad ending". There are 2 other endings.

[@peterholmes7440]

Really? What are the other two?

[@Qardo]

@@peterholmes7440 Well, one, they both die. Then, there is one they both live. Which I believe is the more "Canon Ending". As they do show up in later games.

[@peterholmes7440]

The maths adds up.

[@tatltails3923]

The canon ending is the one where Mio kills Mayu. In 3, it's stated Mio is lured into the House of Dreams due to her grief for her sister, and her uncle follows after her.

[@AtomixSushi28]

Regrettably, this ending is canon. The Promise ending, xbox exclusive, sees them both leaving and living. Hellish Abyss sees them doing the same BUT Mio is blinded and Mayu possessed, seemingly. Crimson Butterfly, the tragic, bittersweet ending sees Mio killing Mayu and living on with her buttefly mark into FF3, where Mio loses herself in the Manor of Sleep and dies. The wii remake saw two extra endings, Frozen Butterfly, which is the PROBABLE WORST ending out of all of them and Shadow Festival. Then there's game over ending which is Lingering Scent, where you straight up ditch your sister and wake up outside the village, lost in the woods and without Mayu.

[@rileytimes]

Wow what an amazing video!!! Subscribing

[@TalkForALiving]

Good video, be cautious about 31 minutes in the video there is a constant ringing in the background that may make you nauseous once you notice it

[@joseroa5243]

"Child murder gone wrong" that's... good?

[@net_spider]

I find it fascinating that there is media like this coming out of japan. Evil that is considered 100% necessary to stop even greater evil. Time and again I've seen folklore, old games, and even modern media like this that shows off that kind of thing.

[@purplegalaxies2149]

42:01 you should’ve said “on sound”😭😭😭

[@kyutiella513]

poor white hair boy, imagine risking your life to save your two friends only to one of them decide to be like `nah, i rather stay her and die even though i know me and my twin are gonna be safe when we leave here but its a tradition so i cant break it

[@waynekurr6410]

Commenting to help feed the Algorithm God, excellent vid as always and I can't wait to fill my downtime with this along with the rest of your content

[@hopecaulfield]

begging you to make a lore video on the 3rd, 4th and 5th games !!

[@TerryB01]

Alright more lore!

[@tenneseeangel1293]

Love the video ❤

[@MikaBoBikaFoFika]

Please cover Fatal Frame 3, or the rest of the series for that matter, because your way of storytelling actually makes it so that I can sit and listen the whole time despite having some form of an attention disorder. I've tried watching other channels cover 3 and I just can't stick with it.

[@lizabarbarossa]

u make always the best lore stuff♡😊❤

[@arcaneScribbler]

Here's hoping this video thrives!

[@purplegalaxies2149]

I’m not gonna lie, it is funny that it’s a tradition to absolutely dog on Mayu lmao Anything to keep you from soiling your pants :,)

[@TheJoshMorin]

27:41

[@passing.by.the.river.]

I'd prefer one of the OTHER endings. This was the saddest and basically worthless part of all since you force and fought your way through all the spirits only to become part of an unending circle of death.

[@daec4167]

I’d love to see the other three.

[@tonysack-a-titanite7497]

Love you, Lady!

[@tristanjones7682]

I remember the first time I played fatal frame 2 and fighting the first ghost and if theres one thing that’s definitely great with Japanese ghosts is that they’re freaking terrifying to deal with!

[@DaFruitiestPeer]

Manifesting the video for part 3 👻

[@toddmonson4050]

Nice one!!

[@neogotham2k39]

Fatal Frame 2 is a great game!

[@HeatherHolt]

Yeasss the best FF!!

[@TheBLACKLIZT]

hoping for fatal frame 3 video! finger crossed

[@SillyandgoofyAnim8or]

Is this a videogame?

[@Brz1ia]

*Spoiler Ahead* !!! Mayu was already possesed (after the fall she laughed almost like Sae, that is probably not mio by looking at her condition before the fall) from the start, how would she know the rituals? Or whats happening in thr village? Its either Mayu was manipulative or that was a part of how Sae tries to deceive Mio by saying "Run away" From the village by making Mio do the opposite, considering how Mayu follows the butterfly so Sae probably knew that Mayu's sister would also follow her by leading her to the village.

[@THATGuy5654]

Comment for Doctor Algorithmo. Paging Algorithmo.

[@justinanus8983]

u still needa make a video for zelda skyward sword for the wii

[@inscrutablewut]

do Fear and Hunger

[@drgaz2861]

dang now im sad

[@sparkdrive2900]

So why does she have to kill her at the end? She already beat the final boss.

[@TiptoeTheTank]

I think it's one of those "open to interpretation" things. How I saw it was when Mio was near the Abyss, she was impacted by the madness of it. She lost rational thought. She carried out the ritual to satisfy the Hellish Abyss. And only realized what she had done after it was too late to undo it. The Hellish Abyss was newly satisfied by Mayu's death, and would be silent for another decade or so. The village vanished, the terrible events of that night would cease to repeat. But at a terrible cost to Mio.

[@edmund8954]

​@@TiptoeTheTank In my opinion, its because Mio was already possessed by Yae the moment she entered the village.

[@K4wakam1_.Tom1e]

Sae and Yae died the same way😦

[@robertanna2693]

The assageway

[@Jv615]

Wish there was a Japanese dub option in the game

[@totiarriola]

Love all ur narrations even if Sae - is like Sa-y and Yae is like Yay

[@deideisayskatsu]

No?

[@reaper_panda994]

Obligatory algorithm appeasing comment

[@Mae_Dastardly]

Fearst

[@ShoutOfCoffee]

Ahh... times when games were actually good

[@SADshrimpforever]

Helllllooooooooo

[@Zoniex]

Lfg

[@CalosGeoffrey]

love this game

[@nmghmarquis2583]

hmmm4_4 Goood show kinda nice