The Conversation Wally Never Wanted to Have With TobyMac

[@billwilliams4281]

This is a great interview. Our son, Tim, went to Heaven in 2009...for lack of a better word, it sucked. I was angry, I was doubtful, I was crushed. I didn't want to hear the "he's in a better place" or "God has something big planned for you" or "We just don't know God's will" comments because I was mad. Mad that God saw everything, He saw my whole life, my wife's whole life, and my son's whole life and ONLY gave us 16 years with him. I've come a LONG way since then. I never tell people that my son is dead, I always say that he's alive, in Heaven and I have no doubt whatsoever that I will see him again some day...and (IN MY MIND, MY DREAMS), he will be the one to say, "Hey dad, I want you to finally meet someone." as he grabs my hand and takes me to meet Jesus face to face. It will be a glorious day and my wife and I are so thankful for the promise of Heaven. Coincidentally, Tim was a HUGE fan of TobyMac and loved listening to all of the TruDog tracks on his CDs. Well done interview Wally, thanks for sharing it.

[@Art1_Sec8]

welp, I'm tearing up, man. I'd hug ya if I could

[@MonaLucy15257]

I’m so sorry 😢for your beautiful loss.

[@oakhades5478]

Amen. God bless you.

[@MISNM0]

🕊🤍☀️🌻

[@Alexandra0707]

God bless you. My deepest condolences for your beautiful son. I know ... Mine left suddenly on Sept :( the pain...

[@stacybanks7189]

I lost my only 2 Sons, Austin (forever 29, in 2016) & Wade (forever 18, in 2006). I will always have broken pieces in my heart. 💔 But I have always been grateful & thanked God for the time that I was able to share with them. My Daughter, my only living child, & Son-in-law are raising my oldest Son's 2 girls, my granddaughters, along with their Son, my grandson. My Son, Wade, also wrote songs & was very good at it. We prayed just moments before his deadly accident. My Son Austin was a 100% Disabled Afghanistan Army Veteran. He suffered from severe PTSD. Thank you for sharing your faith & songs @TobyMac, God Bless You All. 🙏✝️👼💜

[@vrodriguez2259]

I'm so sorry for your loss.😢 God Bless you Stacy.❤️

[@billvenzke1592]

I also lost my first born daughter to a drug overdose the same year. I'm eternally grateful for Life After Death to helps me in my mourning.

[@grahammcnally4799]

This one broke my heart. I know Toby doesn't know me personally, but his songs have spoken to me on such a personal level that he is like my family, and I wept when I heard that news. Thank you for not coming undone. Thank you for loving your son unconditionally. I simply cannot express how much I respect and love Toby Mac.

[@Queesho]

Yes

[@klwright2949]

Our daughter passed away a month ago at 10 and a half.... It is the hardest thing I've ever experienced. She was healthy and happy. We take life one breath at a time right now.

[@noel8537]

You got this❤️ even if it feels like God is miles away, He’s right here

[@MISNM0]

If there were words I thought would help...... 🕊💓☀️🦄

[@jacquelinehibbert7310]

So sorry that you have to go through this. Please accept my heartfelt condolences. My 19 year old son went to be with his Father in heaven in April. He was in college , developed and infection and was gone in the blink of an eye. I’m still in denial. This pain is beyond words. I’m shattered , devastated , and so lost. I can’t even take a step. I am just being dragged through life right now. My son loved the Lord so much I cannot understand why God took him so early. He was living for the Lord. I feel like God could have given me some warning …. Something to let me know time was running out. 💔💔💔

[@klwright2949]

@@jacquelinehibbert7310I'm so sorry for your loss. I wish that I would have known as well that her time was coming. She passed away suddenly in our home. If I would have known I would have just loved on her more, taken more pictures and videos, let her sleep in our bed when my husband was away at work ect. I know that I couldn't change anything because the Bible tells us that God has our days numbered before the Earth was even formed, before she was being formed in my body. So I know that even and her 10 years, it was too short for us but it was just perfect for Jesus. She loves Jesus and I know that she will be excited to introduce me to Jesus when I get to heaven one day. That's the only thing that keeps me going.

[@jacquelinehibbert7310]

@@klwright2949 thank you for this beautiful reminder. I know God’s plan is perfect. I know He is working all things out Sometimes I just get caught up in the flesh and begin to slip. Thanking God for sending His Word , His everlasting Hope and love through you today. Have a blessed Thanksgiving. ❤️❤️

[@TrueYokefellow2023]

Praise God for his vulnerability and honesty. I'm a recovering drug addict and love Jesus Christ. He is my first love and my deliverer! I love Toby Mac's music and listen to it all the time. I remember first hearing about his son dying. I pray for Toby and his wife to be blessed and I thank God for using them to show others the truth of addiction and the truth of freedom in Christ. God bless their family.

[@trevwill21]

I saw Toby Mac in 95 with DC talk and he got his Bible out in the middle of the concert and took about 15 mins. It wasn't fake or plastic. He genuinely trying to help someone. Been a fan ever since.

[@HappyDW]

My young daughter is an addict and I know that I could experience this any day. Help LORD! Have mercy! Thank you Toby for living gracefully through what no parent wants to. ❤

[@allig1415]

Thank you Lord you know exactly what Doris's daughter needs, I pray you would meet her where she's at & that she would turn from destruction & do it your way God, thank you that your turn Dry & Dead Bones back to Life, I speak Life over Doris young daughter in Jesus name Amen!

[@HappyDW]

@@allig1415 thank you for your beautiful prayer for my Vivi. God hears and moves! 🙌🏻

[@allig1415]

Ill continue to keep your daughter in my prayers. I personally was an addict of fentanyl, I had to get to the end of myself to be able to start over again & lose a loved one to it, everybody's recovery story is different, i was a stubborn learner. I'm trying to use my story to encourage others that we can overcome anything if we do it God's way. Everything takes time & I highly recommend CR, which stands for Celebrate Recovery, its one of the best programs out there that you can find all across the states. It's not just for addicts, it's for any hurt, habit or hang up in life. To anyone that needs help, please look up the nearest CR in your town. Gotta start somewhere & why not today 💛✌️ Praying for Breakthrough. Vivi will have Victory in Jesus name!💪

[@DarleneFromenthal-xt8dr]

I pray for your daughter, my daughter was addicted to drugs for 10 years. It's so hard to go through it with your child, my daughter has been clean for 1 year and is working with addicts. I pray for her everyday and thank God for answered prayers I pray for recovery for your child 🙏

[@HappyDW]

Thank you Darlene, God is able!

[@HeidiGreer]

I lost my son to suicide in 2011. Your music was inspirational before my loss- and comforting during and then, I felt your pain in your loss. Your music is such a blessing- through the ups and downs of the emotional struggle- I listen and hear God speak through your music- thank you for going through and lifting us higher-

[@TaraLyz]

I was at a MercyMe & Crowder concert when the audience was told the news of Truett's passing and we all prayed for Toby right then and there. I only listened to 21 Years once while watching the music video and it broke me. I can't imagine what the pain of losing a child feels like, but it encourages my soul to know that Toby stayed on the path that leads to Life. Help Is On The Way (Maybe Midnight) is one of my favorite songs to listen to and my favorite from Toby in general. Thank you for sharing this interview with us, Wally. Praying for you and your family brother Toby. 😢💔🙏

[@OneMansLoss]

In 2009, my wife and I first met to act alongside each other in a play called, "Rabbit Hole," by David Lindsay-Abaire which centers around a husband and wife attempting to move forward after the death of their four-year-old son. The play *nails* how differently the husband and wife are grieving. They are in two different places. As a single, 23-year-old actor, I didn't have much to help me relate to the idea of losing a child. However, my wife had a three-year-old son at the time which we started rehearsing the play, and we began dating each other. Gaining this boy in my life was such a blessing, and was perfectly timed to give me even the slightest sense of what it may be like to *lose* this child. He quickly became my son. Also perfectly timed was that during our rehearsal period, without seeking them, we had discovered this band named "Cloud Cult," who was essentially one man writing and recording albums, and who after his second or third album had lost his three-year-old son. His music shifted and became focused on dealing with grief, and amazingly he and his wife ended up finding a carving by their son on a piece of furniture in their home several months after his passing, and this became the band's logo. As God would have it, my wife also turned out to be the woman whose husband had left her for my girlfriend at the time, years before we met to do the play. Fast forwarding to 2013, my wife, our son, and I had just moved to CO to switch careers, go back to school, and begin anew. After a couple of months, still scraping to get by, she had mentioned to me the idea of her becoming a surrogate. Following my gut, I immediately said "no," as I didn't want our first pregnancy together to be someone else's child. We went back and forth about it, and she finally convinced me when she said that she believed it would give her a sense of purpose and that it would financially help us tremendously to get on our feet. We began the arduous process of screening, appointments, and paperwork, and after several weeks of everything being lined up, the last step was for her to get her contraceptive removed so that she could continue the surrogacy process. That very appointment became the appointment to have her contraceptive removed because *we* were pregnant! On a "99.9%" successful contraceptive, which we had used for years! I was still stubborn and in my own way at that time, and while the situation taught me to let go of the steering wheel, I still chalked it up to coincidence for a few more years. Then the light bulbs began to turn on. God works in incredible ways. He is the Alpha and the Omega. I am so grateful to Jesus that my wife and I now have three miracle children! I still cannot fathom the grief of losing one of them. It is overwhelmingly humbling. This was a very moving discussion!

[@loriconiglio3990]

Great interview. Our son passed in 2009 at 25, drug and alcohol related. Our boy did struggle for years. And I was so angry at first that he could not recover as you said like so many others have. But we have come to the place where now we know that God took him to relieve him of his pain and struggles. God bless all the parents going through this. Thank you for sharing 🙏🏼

[@Mark_B585]

I'm sorry you lost your son. I'm there with you grieving and crying .

[@gillianmccann1738]

I lost my boy, age 33, to an OD 9 weeks ago. I'm gutted and broken 😢❤😢

[@lisacrummett1279]

I lost my first born son one year ago tomorrow. He was riding his bicycle to work and was hit by a truck and died at the scene. I have struggled with my relationship with God over this I know my son loved Jesus, but there’s such a hole in my heart that I can’t find any way to fill it. Even my relationship with God doesn’t feel the same as my relationship with my son, he was my joy, God did give me a vision of my son in heaven without his disability it was a kiss from heaven. I was so sad for Toby when I got the news then, when my son left this earth, I thought of Toby right away. Thank you for this interview.

[@NicksMadVideos]

Toby's bravery in sharing this intimate tragedy is very admirable. I thank God that we have God to carry us through whatever happens.

[@deborahquinnan]

Your message just reassured me, that God is real! I almost lost my son to suicide, and one that went through a bad car accident. Gosh , and then I listen to your music , and it lifts me up! I’m not alone. We are not alone, man are you a gift from God. Thank you!!❤️your loss is my loss!!!

[@debraharwood7347]

LOST MY SON 10 YEARS AGO,SAD TO SAY I WASNT AS FAITHFUL AS YOU HAVE BEEN TOBY.I LISTEN TO 21 YEARS AND IT GIVES ME COMFORT. MY SON WAS31 .HE HAD 4 DAUGHTERS, THE 2 YOUNGEST DONT REMEMBER HIM .THANK YOU FOR BEING AN INSPIRATION TO GREIVING PARENTS,

[@KarlGessler]

Thank you for sharing your raw and honest heart, Toby. May the Lord's grace cover you and your family like never before.

[@scottbitz5222]

I lost my brother at 21.5 in 2013 to a car crash (there was alcohol involved, but it was only him who died or got hurt) and when I heard that Truett passed I felt this so much because though the circumstances were different the age was really similar and I just know how much my family went through, but was still not destroyed because we knew God had him home. Even just crossing the 9 year mark there is still so much that comes up or we go through, but God's still there in all of those moments.

[@Alexandra0707]

I don't have the heart to listen to this interview yet. My deepest condolences to Toby and family, loved ones. Today mark 2 months since my 37 yr beautiful son passed all the sudden. The pain only expands and expands. Mercy!

[@AwakenTheDawn2004]

I'm so very sorry for your loss. ❤️🙏🙏🙏

[@ruthk3669]

I am so sorry for your loss. May God comfort you and surround you with His love

[@dianasara7877]

Deepest condolences on your dear sons passing ❤

[@kated4359]

I’m sorry for the loss of your sweet precious son. Praying for you tonight 🤍

[@haroldmccloud9795]

So sorry for your loss.

[@Jebajohn9793]

TobyMac is such an amazing person and artist. This was so beautiful

[@josiefeliciano6591]

I give Toby so much credit for sharing his heartbreak and being honest. Through his tragedy came Life After Death. Every song on the album has met someone in there pain. Help is on The Way found me. Everything About You hits my heart, I lost my brother at age 22. The songs remind you to stay in God.

[@WhereTheBASShasNoName]

I've seen TobyMac live a couple times and he never disappoints. Toby I just wanna say that I'm so sorry for the loss of your son, God bless you and we love you

[@HCX.501]

14:50 what a amazing message 🥹❤️

[@chanteyrueda]

I’m moved by Toby’s vulnerability and transparency. thank you Toby! Bless you and your marriage and family!

[@tatermonkey74]

One reason is because she’s momma! Like it or not no one grieves like a momma burying her child. They have a bond that no one else will ever understand unless you are a mother! I lost my daughter at 22 yr old In 2015. God is always Good no matter the time!

[@tammyl.2204]

My son and I saw Toby Mac many times when he was young. He fell away from the faith in his teens, but never forgot Toby's music. He kind of knew immediately what happened to Truett when we first found out he passed. I felt so badly for Toby and his family. Little did I know that my son would pass from the very same thing in VERY similar circumstances ie (not a Fentanyl user) on 10/19/21. My son told me about 21 years before I had even heard it. He listened to it 100s of times (per him) That song played at his funeral even though he was 27. It seemed fitting. The difference between us is that I have no assurance of his salvation. I'm so glad that Toby and his family have it, but I can't help but feel angry at God that I never got that. I prayed for that for all of his life, and yet nothing. I know that its sinful to be angry with God, but I can't get past it. I'm glad they can envision him in glory. I envy that...

[@Queesho]

I just shared this with my wife and kids. I have been listening to Toby for 30 years(DC Talk) and some of the best memories of my families trips in our van is listening to TobyMac. My kids know every word to every song. We also loved Truetts songs. We were heartbroken at the news. We are family in Christ, though we do not know one another, we grieved with you and your family. Thanks for being transparent. Thank you for encouraging us with psalms and hymns Spiritual songs. God’s grace to you all.

[@diane4087]

Your music touches my heart and others

[@billsnyder1067]

Wow! Raw and real. This is what the world needs to see and hear from people of faith. We doubt, we wrestle, we get angry to pretend we don’t is an insult. THANK YOU

[@leek7987]

Just found this channel and I have to say this was one of the better interviews I have seen. You were not afraid to ask the questions that were hard but that would truly be helpful to others in a same situation. You listened and did not interrupt. You made the interview about Toby and not about you. Thanks to you both.

[@356nut]

Tobymac is a great example of how our faith is supposed to work. It’s definitely not easy. I can feel his pain and sadness.

[@teresagibson2974]

Thank you Toby Mac for sharing, my daughter has just lossed her 25 years old son, we're all heart broken. He wrote a lot of rap songs.

[@vanessamilligan3278]

My heart aches with Toby and Amanda and kids. I remember Truett being on albums with Toby( I want a Mac and others 😁) I feel like we raised our kids together (sorta). My heart was devastated to know y’all were going through this, trauma of losing a child. I appreciate the transparency and honesty. I love you guys! So thankful to Jesus for life after death🦋

[@Wyant_Family]

My heart aches and is full at the same time. Blessed are those who mourn for they shall be comforted. Thank you Toby for modeling our faith on and through a situation no one wants to be in our see others in. May God continually bring his presence to you and your entire family

[@marioesparza7784]

My Wife and I also lost our young son last year in October one month after his 24th birthday. And Like you Toby We process Grief everyday. But Like You We Know He’s in Better Hands. Healthy and Feeling No Pain and Saving a Seat at Gods Big Table for mom and dad and younger brother. God Bless You Toby and Your Beautiful Family.

[@nolaruble5016]

Thank you Toby for sharing your story. Especially to remember God is with me as I grieve the loss of my 33 yr old son to suicide 4 months ago. My husband and I are struggling and grieving very differently. I don't know about this situation but I do know my God is good and he will make good from this tragedy. We are praying for you and your family. Thank you for the amazing album honoring Truett.

[@melissac6774]

Nola, my heart breaks with yours. Sending you a big virtual hug. 😥I lost my son to suicide too, 9/19/2019. Toby's Life After Death CD is therapeutic, IMO. I'm adding you to my prayer list. 🙏

[@J.L.Nelson]

I'm so sorry for your loss. My sister committed suicide when I was 5 (I am now 51) but I do remember her. I know that she is with my mom now as my mom passed in 2010 and someday I will enter God's Kingdom and see them once again and the hugs I will give them will be tight.

[@cheri_bling]

So sorry. Praying for you and your family. Stay strong and hold onto God's promises.

[@TheHollyann07]

I heard your song "21 years" today. I lost my 21 year old son Jordan on 10/17/22. He died from a catastrophic stroke due to his kidney disease. You say his name throughout the song, I know you're talking about the river Jordan, but it hit me so hard. He was a poet, writer and lyricist. He wanted to make it to a stage one day. We would talk about his lyrics, and what they meant as well. I broke down today hearing it, I try so hard to hold in my tears-trying to be strong-and hearing your song took me out. But thank you, it meant so much to me ❤️‍🩹

[@evans8412]

All parents who lost a child should listen to this we can’t even imagine what they are going through

[@sS-vu3mz]

This interview is a blessing for me, as I am and have been continually healing/going forward from the loss of two sons, one at age 18, one at age 24, and from seeing their brother, the middle son, struggle with the loss of his two brothers. Thank you for talking candidly and know that the good work goes through the grace of God, of Truett, and of you. Thank you.

[@karenkeiser1547]

Thank you for sharing your heart. When I lost my 18 day old son, I found myself still trusting God and didn’t get angry. I kept reminding myself of Rom 8:28 and even though I didn’t understand it, I could trust that God would somehow work it all together for good. I had to believe that to help me get through it. Another scripture that helped me was knowing that God would use this for His glory, in that with the comfort God gave me, then I could comfort others in II Cor, I believe. God is still good! I still believe this 39 years later and two miscarriages along with losing David. Continued prayers of comfort 💜

[@GeeGee145]

I have been finding great comfort in Toby Mac’s music. It’s how God works. My husband bought tickets for his Feb.25th concert at George Mason the Monday before our youngest son passed away at age 37. The day after he bought the tickets, I listened to 21-our son passed unexpectedly that Friday. We were at the concert on the 25th. I’m at the same placed--devastated-but all I know is that God loves us, and God is good. Thank you for sharing, Toby!

[@Ayzlin]

This still hits me jn the gut... especially hearing that song dedicated to his son. I have 2 boys and it's just scary to even think about loosing them. I loved all the parts where he talked about how his wife is grieving differently but you guys still manage to be a unit. God bless you guys and your family ❤️

[@Floppyearsmomma]

Wally, I admire you so much for not sensationalizing your brother's grief. Sometimes even Christians put our artist brothers and sisters on a pedestal as they walk in a bubble where life can't touch them. Now, Toby, is transforming that beautiful tapestry he speaks of. He is showing us our life is still a masterpiece, because tapestry began in our mother's womb. In the dark secret place, God creates us. Blessings on your journey, Tobey.

[@elizabethsimpkins5275]

I just see this great interview from four months ago, I just want to say that my heart is broken for Toby’s family and all those parents like me had loss a son or a daughter! It’s a pain that anyone of us thought we will experience! The song 21 years touched my life cuz my son was struggling with drugs addiction my heart was broken for TobyMac and his wife but I didn’t experience their pain until September 5th , 2022 when police knocked in my door , when they got to rescued my son he was already gone . Overdose , the drug that he took was coated with Fentanyl! 21 Years was the song we chose for my son’s Celebration of Life. Cuz is so similar to our lives! I personally don’t know TobyMac and his wife but through this pain I know them and my prayers and thoughts are with them as we walking though this pain , until we see them again in Heaven! God be with you all and give us strength 🙏💔😢💔

[@redbull83910]

This interview is just amazing and genuine. His faith is beautiful!

[@rachelgomez1060]

“Is God tickling me” that made me tear up, what a beautiful thing to say God bless him our Heavenly Father took him home

[@sueeason8126]

My son, Mark left me October 30,2019, following Truett. I relate to all your feelings and words. Thank you for sharing Toby and your strength in your grief.

[@selaine1311]

I really appreciated listening to this interview. It was so honest and I felt privileged to hear it.

[@allennewborn936]

Whew.. though not overly expressive of emotion in the interview itself, but because of having 4 kids myself, what an emotional journey this was watching and listening to. Thanks for this Wally and thanks Toby for being open about your hurt.

[@anthonyanderson9771]

I'm so grateful for this interview. Yesterday was my mother's death anniversary and it's not the easiest. Hearing the discussion, reading other's experiences sure brings comfort to the worn places. I praise the Lord for using her passing to teach me honesty with Him with all the emotion, and all the reverence, the questions and The Answer. And to be ok with it when I don't have things all together. Which is more often than when I do. Jesus Christ is good, is God, and still worthy of all my trust. Thank you for this Wally! Prayers for us all!

[@ahenshaw368]

Thank you so much for this conversation my 25 year old son passed away January 14th and I am grieving his loss while trying to find God in all this sometimes its hard but I know He is here and He has gotten me thru this and He will help me get thru this God has a bigger plan that I don't see in this moment but I will praise him thru this storm

[@JoshuaAaronTurney]

I remember my first Christian rap CD, DC talk heaven bound. I fell into addiction for about sixteen years of my life, but I always had this grounding in Christ. Now I lead worship at my church. I am able to worship God from a place that has been bread through His deliverance from darkness and pain. I am with your wife. I want to be used by God to steal back souls. I lived in the darkness. Now I want to pull others out of it.

[@elizabethkapalczynski228]

Thank you for this interview Wally and Toby. And thank you for sharing your journey Toby. Your song 21 helped me so, so much to just feel. After the deaths of my brother and nephew to suicide, and the subsequent breakdown/breakup of our family because of the hurt, I closed up. I held down the grief so I could help hold up my mom, my own family. But one day 21 played on the radio of my home and all of those emotions poured out like a flood. And I needed it so much; I did not know. Thank you again for serving the Lord. He’s working through you guys. ❤️

[@kelliwalsh2948]

This was a eye-opening interview. For lack of better words. I lost my son on September 25, 2021. We went to be with the Lord. I don’t have any doubt in my mind. Although it just is heartbreaking as his mother . I Will alway keep his memory alive.

[@marshahinson2360]

A million souls for the kingdom...YAAS!!! I felt the same. I did not want to intrude. Thank you for your steadfast faith. May God comfort you both.

[@kevinklampe9362]

Toby is such an amazingly strong person. I lost my best friend in the 5Th Grade to gun violence via his own Brother, right in front of me. The kid premeditated his own death and knew how his Brother would respond to choking his cat. Obviously I wasn't prepared as a 5Th grader to deal with the loss of a loved one who was as close as Family. I don't deal with death/loss well at all. I wanted someone to counsel and console at my school and when I didn't get that I responded with anger, drugs, and bad habits. I was a mess. My Heart Goes Out To The Toby Mac Family. You're all in my thoughts and prayers daily. I even had to witness a shooting at 4-5 years old due to a Home Invasion. The intruder went after my Big Brother. The Invader was saying he was going to kill me and my Mom when he was done with Bro. So I went to work on Mom and pleaded with her to get our gun and shoot this dead beat. At 4-5 years of age I tasted hate, anger, and serious emotion Etc I'm 55 years of age now and healthy and holding on strong. It's only because of God I'm alive, healthy, strong, not dead, or in the penitentiary. I recently began listening to Toby Mac again and started the healing process. I feel like my heart is breaking at times but I know God and his precious Son Has Me. I understand how both of you feel. Hang In There Mom & Toby & Fam. God Has You. One Day We All Shall Be Reunited In Heaven Again Perfected!! I Love You All!!!

[@CareNetConwayNH]

I also lost my son to an overdose. We actually were able to show him love for three months in the hospital from the time of the overdose until he died. Josiah Jewell Hamlin March 9, 1983-October 8, 2017.

[@henrikegraveland400]

Thank you for this interview (from Holland) Our David (10) went to heaven in 2021. We listen the album 'Life after death' every day at the moment.

[@godandgardening]

Wow even more impressed by Toby! God has given him amazing wisdom

[@sheilakarch5190]

I learned these lessons after we lost our oldest boy in Afghanistan in April, 2011. Everyone does grieve differently and it takes as long as it takes for each person. I’m so glad the two of you are coming together over this and giving each other space to work it out as individuals. Grief doesn’t ever go away you just learn to deal with it.

[@aprilbarstow8484]

Mom's and Dad's grieve differently. Think about it, Mom's carry that child and nurture him from conception on. It's a connection different than Dad's, certainly not less than, just different. I will never forget every minute of my son's birth, nor of his death. I will forever grieve the loss of my son. 💔 Thank you for your transparency and sharing with us who know this deep grief. Praying for all of us. 🙏❤️

[@Mark_B585]

In 2019 in the span of nine months I lost my father, my uncle, and my grandmother. And during this I found out my girlfriend was sleeping with other people. I take better care of myself now than I ever have. But I still weep. I still grieve and I still get mad. I get mad at God. I cry. It never goes away. All this happened while toby was dealing with the loss of his son. I'm still not ok. But I live for God and for my kids. I love Jesus still. I know too damn deeply what Toby says and feels.

[@lisatolar884]

My daughter did meth for several years, it was a hard life & a hard path. I knew I could lose her at any moment & I am forever thankful that she is now off & moving forward. We can’t control or grown kids we can only love & pray for them.

[@KingJesus41]

Awesome interview. Thank you Toby for sharing. So many of us need reassurance that God never leaves us, and carries us through our toughest times. I've had great devastation, heartache, and pain in this world, but felt the unconditional love of Jesus that lasts a lifetime. We are living in His time... it is Not ours. We are to cherish and love what we can, when we can, however we can keeping Jesus front of everything we do. I pray Toby, you continue to heed the Holy Spirit bringing this divine music to our ears in these end times... we all need the light in the tunnel. God Bless everyone, Jesus is Lord and the love is Real.

[@vickyburton2434]

I just keep this family in prayer. God bless Toby. God uses everything for His Glory. He is faithful and true.

[@roadtriplover.]

I am so humbled by Toby’s testimony. I haven’t had issues with drugs myself or in association with family or friends, but Ive faced and family/friends have faced challenges with which we’ve struggled. Ive struggled!! This testimony reinforces for me and challenges me to stand with faith fact that God is in control. How Toby is walking is a very real testimony and example. Im so very grateful that God is speaking to me, encouraging me, maturing my faith and my own walk through Toby’s witness. That said, I am horribly sad for his family’s loss. I cant even begin to imagine the experience of each day. Praise Jesus that we don’t have simply colloquialisms, alone. Christ’s words are TRUTH!!! Praise Jesus!!!

[@sab508]

A beautiful interview🙏🏽May the grace, strength, and peace of our Father continue to be TobyMac’s and his family portion.💙🙏🏽

[@stingagent221]

Man this is powerful.

[@emmiewilson5024]

Praying for you and your wife and children Toby Mac . Thank you for your honesty and honouring your son I see the authentic love ❤️

[@leticiacarrera7224]

Thank you for your transparency Toby, I lost my son in January after three suicide attempts and your music is how God is healing me and how I will learn to live again , as broken as I am. Thank you for life after death music. I played faithful at his funeral and that is how I got through it. Praying for you forever.

[@evansjessicae]

I'm so thankful to finally hear the full story of what happened to Truett and how Toby and his family lived through it. All these years I've avoided making assumptions about what happened, so I'm just really thankful for Toby opening up now.

[@Bunni2023]

My son Francis Jr. Joined Truett in heaven July 2022. He would have been 33 in 2 weeks and died 3 days before my birthday. It was also an overdose and as many times as he has od, this time God took him, he wasn't found till a week later cause he moved away for a job in Philly. I gave him to God when he was born, I'm sure you did too. God took them home, they belong to the Almighty! Yet he let us have them for awhile. Many great memories. It doesn't matter if your child is older at death, it still hurts just the same losing them esp to the bondage of pain and wanting to feel better. but we know they are with Jesus, just like your song 21. I listen to it almost everyday. It comforts me but yet at times it makes me cry. People don't understand unless they go through. God bless you and you're in my prayers. And we will be with them someday soon. Love you btw, My 4 oldest saw you with DC Talk in Pittsburgh years ago. My husband and I went to, but sat in different seats away from them. They were fascinated! Life goes on and death is a part of life. Can't wait to see Francis again. Our souls cry out! But while we are here, we do God's will till that day. Sincerely bunni

[@AgapexArafel]

2 people I grew up listening to and love dearly. Thank you Wally for being a great host. And thank you Toby for opening up. We love you.

[@keisersozay3772]

I lost the woman i should have married to a fentanyl overdose. Tobys story and many others who have been directly impacted by the opioid epidemic should awaken us all to the fact the enemy has waged a different kind of war. Hes coming for our children. Fentanyl is the leading cause of death amongst young people in this country. Parents who have children at home teenagers or older should be encouraged to buy two doses of narcan and place them inside your home. Educate yourself and talk to your kids. Many simply do not how extremely dangerous this drug is until its too late. Look for the signs. TALK TO YOUR KIDS!!! Thank you toby. I admire your strength and courage and your testimony.

[@dededinah2]

Such a good interview Wally and Toby. Cried as I heard it. Some really important things you shared about grieving. My husband of 56 years passed away 18 months ago and I miss him everyday, of course. God bless you both and your families.🙏❤️

[@becky_927]

Prayers for Toby & Amanda and all of their family. Prayers for all of those, who are leaving their comments and sharing their own stories of grief. Love for you all. I've been there, too. 😢 💔 🙏 ❤️

[@nadineterry8766]

Toby Mac's music, his songs and voice have been part of my life since I was in my twenties and he was with DC Talk. I got to see him in Concert several years ago at Overlake Christian Church and it was one of the BEST Concerts I'd seen in my looooong life. When I heard about his sons death it was like a knife in my heart and I prayed for him. I was AMAZED that he was able to keep his Concert Tour...it HAD TO BE God's Grace and the "Peace that passes ALL Understanding" that he was even able to function!! I have seen this same Peace at my church when a Sister's first born son (he was 20 & played drums in the Worship Team & was in the local Police Cadet program) She was able to actually speak at his Funeral with a glow of Joy on her face and testified of Jesus and his Salvation!! HOW???Also, last year, our Pastors lost their youngest daughter (early 40's and she played Piano and sang on the worship team) after a 2 year long battle with Cancer. They had lost their Oldest daugher several year before, and she used to lead the Praise and Worship services years ago. She died from a gas leak the night before she was supposed to move in with her parents so they could help her since she'd become legally blind. After the tragedy, they were able to minister and preach, never missing a service. HOW?? ONLY JESUS!!! There's a strength that comes from the Lord when all of yours is just GONE.. "When i am weak, Then I AM Strong" is the only way I can figure. While writing this, I've become aware that all those that passed were in the Music ministry!Even Toby's son. I KNOW the enemy HATES Praise & Worship because he used to lead it before he rebelled & was cast out of heaven, so now he does ALL he can to silence it! PRAISE GOD/JESUS/HOLY GHOST that the enemy is a LOSER and can NEVER TRIUMPH OVER GODS PEOPLE because We are OVERCOMERS by the Blood of Jesus and the word of our Testimony!! Toby being able to get up there and sing his songs, especially the ones he wrote about his son...TESTIFY of the Greatness of "Christ in Us...THE HOPE OF GLORY!" God Bless and KEEP MOVING FORWARD!❤️‍🔥

[@TMSsquared]

Toby love you man. Your music has always been so helpful to me with my walk with God since you have been in DC TALK. I keep you in my thoughts and prayers always. I lost my son in a miscarriage, even though it's not exactly the same your song "21"helped me get through losing him. I can't wait to see him again in Heaven.

[@kimberlymoore8172]

I told my sister, when she was depressed that our mom died before her daughter was born, that Mom got to meet her miscarried child before she did❤️

[@TMSsquared]

@@kimberlymoore8172 that is so sweet and so true I feel our passed loved ones are with my little angel and it gives me peace when he opened his eyes for the first time he saw Jesus. There is a song about Jesus's rocking chair for babies. I can't think of it but I'll ask my mom she might know.

[@TMSsquared]

@@kimberlymoore8172 kzbin.info/www/bejne/jnuYZnZ9etWfn6c I finally found the song I don't have the lyrics but my parents sang this at church a few times.

[@garyandtricia1]

These premature deaths are so hard to deal with here in this place. It's important to remember that this life isn't the goal, this place is not our home.

[@evacraig1415]

Beautiful interview ☺️ thank you God for holding Toby Mac tight and close

[@RSierraify]

What a Great interview. I lost my only son 2 months after Toby lost Truett. My son fought with seizures for 7 yrs. So i actually had a conversation with my son on how Toby had to be feeling about losing his son, which was really strange but at the same time like Toby said i feel like it was the Lord getting me ready and was letting me know I was not alone. That i could do this.Toby helps keep me strong. And also knowing that i am going to see my son again keep me on that corner stone. Thank you Toby. Im right there with you.

[@JC-jc1or]

❤ Your music is such a blessing to me! Your love for Truett radiates in your words and the smile he still brings when you talk about him! What a glorious day that will be when we all get to heaven! Bless you and your family!

[@bjemaja]

Thank you TobyMac for being transparent. I need that. We all process differently the death of our children.

[@lancesherman8673]

I love your honesty Toby. It is so hard to talk about openly. Your music touches my heart. 💜✝️🕊️

[@angiecombs7667]

Grief and grieving. I lost my husband on our 6yo’s bday to a symptomless widowmaker heart attack. Left me feeling alone, scared, I didn’t even know any of our financial situation. 4 kids looking to me, my faith was in a weak and hurt spot and I choose instead of getting angry (I was) or asking why (oh I did), I said the same thing with a broken heart, God will use this. I chose to praise God through the pain, call Him out to stand by His promises, and though that absence will always be felt (most notably through every milestone), God is faithful. Coming up on the 3rd anniversary and I can look back and see how He provided a way when there was none and how He used the faithful to be God’s hands and feet in our lives. God is still good.

[@Mercilessnessiseverywhere]

"I miss everything about you." God puhleeeeze be ever more merciful to the grieving.

[@JosieFeliciano-e5l]

I really like this interview. Grief is different. So very grateful you turned to God. Your music helped so many deal with grief.

[@eaglestealth1]

Great interview i too lost my son 2 months ago and listening to your music helps me ty Toby

[@mzsirv]

Thank you for being so open Toby. Testimony is so powerful. Bless you and your family💚

[@h.mendez8518]

wooooaaa it is so strong... Thank God for his promises... We pray for you Toby and your family... We follow you since DCTalk. You are a blessing to our life.

[@dianasara7877]

Wow.Mr Toby being raw,deep.Thank you for sharing,you and Amanda have an absolutely amazing son.Mr Wally,superb interview.Love you Toby and Amanda.

[@bprind2]

This interview has helped me so much. I lost my son 14 months ago and I must have played and watched 21Years hundreds of times. You have been a blessing to me. Thank you

[@living_m2414]

I know little youtube comment from a stranger means nothing, but I was crying all the way through this. I don't have great words but I pray you feel the love from the body of Christ! Toby, Amanda and the whole family, I continue to lift you in prayer. Maranatha!

[@bigrevkev55]

Lost my oldest son right after Toby Macs song 21 years came out. My son was 19. This song helped me so much. So did Toby’s story and example.

[@talon3684]

My heart breaks for Toby and his family and is also sobered at the same time. Following Toby's journey in music from early on, it certainly resonates with me and it is certainly our choice to choose to overcome and rebuild with Jesus or not. It's an absolute process but it needs to be our only choice amidst the pain. Easier said than done but DOABLE. We have to choose the Truth that always remains--which is Jesus, rebuild, and walk out our breakthrough daily. (John 14:6) Blessings to the family. God's got you. God's got us all. Thank you for sharing Toby; the trials and the testimonies.

[@christykuder1190]

21 years gets me every single time.

[@TLmomofZAHS]

Amazing interview. Thank you for sharing this intimate part of your life with us.

[@atjatj2309]

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, GOD...for guiding the McKeehan family through this interview, sharing their grief journey...that continues to help others, like myself, survive the pain of grief.

[@godlyvegan6688]

It is a GREAT INTERVIEW THANKYOU FOR HAVING TOBYMAC ON.

[@padecakes]

This is so beautiful and touching.