The Corvette Z06 that finally earned Porsche's Respect

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Gear Glazers

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@jon350
@jon350 6 күн бұрын
Let's correct the record. The C6.R GT1 closed down the LeMans class because Porsche couldn't keep up. Then Porsche won the GT2 class because of 'BoP' rules: They were allowed to have bigger air restrictors on the engine, a bigger fuel capacity, a little over 100lbs lighter, and fewer aero restrictions. Facts matter.
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 6 күн бұрын
Agreed, racing is a different ball game. The vette has had it's glory there. But in consumer cars, this is yet another leap -Kyle
@timeIesz
@timeIesz 4 күн бұрын
@@GearGlazerswhy do you use low effort trash ai thumbnails
@johnboe412
@johnboe412 3 күн бұрын
​@@timeIesz because it's easy. Why do you ask braindead questions?
@taxationistheft9441
@taxationistheft9441 6 күн бұрын
The definition of Corvette has nothing to do with mid-engine vs front, flat plane, LS... etc None of it matters. Corvette - noun: A car that can compete with Ferraris and Porsche on a factory worker's salary.
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 6 күн бұрын
😂 I like that -Kyle
@rockychessie
@rockychessie 5 күн бұрын
Very well said. I'm an ordinary Joe and I own a new Corvette. Glad I waited for this spectacular machine.
@norwegianblue2017
@norwegianblue2017 5 күн бұрын
True, but not that many factory workers can afford a Z06 anymore.
@ColeJ34
@ColeJ34 5 күн бұрын
@@norwegianblue2017 Agree. I dunno what factory worker is paying $125k+ for a Z or $110K for an E-Ray. Corvette prices got ruined at the beginning of COVID when the factory could not produce the model quick enough for demand and people with a lot of money turned the $60k entry model price to $100K. You can’t put that cat back in the bag once it’s out.
@jimsteinway695
@jimsteinway695 5 күн бұрын
I owned a 23 C8Z06/Z07 and a 18 GT3. The GT3 was $155,000 the Z06 was $165,000. And yet the GT3 was faster on the track than my Z06/Z07 with 170 more horsepower.
@GeorgeSears-m6d
@GeorgeSears-m6d 5 күн бұрын
Glazers is such a fitting name for this channel. This couple never went through puberty and grew out of their 14 year old Forza phase.
@bugpumper
@bugpumper 4 күн бұрын
"will the Porsche owners respect the Z06?" Are you kidding?? Yes!!! I'm a Porsche driver and huge fan. Of course I respect the new Z06. I think the fan boys are always going to argue. But Porsche and Chevy have a great relationship, and Porsche calling up Chevy to congratulate them is a huge class move!!
@mattabell3657
@mattabell3657 5 күн бұрын
I sold my 992.1 C2S for a C8 Z06. The Corvette is a better car than a 911 Carrera. Porsche GT cars may be a different story but the Z06 remains world class and has earned respect. I have older 911s and they are great sports cars, the newer models just aren’t as fun to me.
@barrydraper
@barrydraper 6 күн бұрын
Just wait til the new ZR1 comes out, with over 1,000 hp and 233 MPH top speed. In the famous words of BTO “ You Ain’t Seen Nothing Yet”.
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 6 күн бұрын
I can't wait, been having lots of debate over whether this car is worth the money. It's a lot of cash and no badge, but the car is just so good I keep arguing it's worth it -Kyle
@WindyCity1992
@WindyCity1992 6 күн бұрын
Corvettes have been around since 1953 , corvettes have outsold 911s for decades , the 911 has 32NHTSA recalls. The Corvette has 24 , GM pioneered magnaride suspension tech and has provided cars for the working class. Who cares what Porsche respects
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 6 күн бұрын
For sure Corvette deserves its flowers for being a staple in racing but you cant disrespect Porsche by leaving the 911 out of the conversation. Enthusiasts can be crazy but they aren't unfounded lol -Mike
@WindyCity1992
@WindyCity1992 6 күн бұрын
​@GearGlazers The fact that the 911 gets a participation prize is fanboy logic. The GT3 has never been a top track car. It's literally a drivers favorite, which is subjective.
@WindyCity1992
@WindyCity1992 6 күн бұрын
​​@@GearGlazersin the reality the Viper ACR is what yall pretend the GT3 is. The GT3RS has set 3 records at 300k. The ACR set 16 at 116k msrp. Doesn't add it up to me
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 6 күн бұрын
This car does both, and that's why it's so special -Kyle
@WindyCity1992
@WindyCity1992 5 күн бұрын
​​@@GearGlazersno disrespect to you or the channel. We just have alot of bias and misinformation spread about american cars for decades. Not blaming you guys. I meant no disrespect or harm 🎉
@corystansbury
@corystansbury 6 күн бұрын
Were you born after 2013? The LS7 was spectacular.
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 6 күн бұрын
I don’t think either of us are hating on the C6 Z06 not sure what part of the vid you’re referring to but yeah I agree that’s a solid motor -Mike
@corystansbury
@corystansbury 6 күн бұрын
​​@@GearGlazers "For our entire lives, every Z06 has been a supercharged variant of a regular Corvette"
@switchlanez
@switchlanez 6 күн бұрын
@@GearGlazers 3:09: "For our entire lives every Z06 has just been a supercharged variant of the regular Corvette." I'm a millennial and in my lifetime the C5 Z06 and C6 Z06 were NA and produced for 12 collective model years. Only the C7 had a supercharged Z06 variant and that was produced for 5 model years. The OG Z06 had 199 produced in '63 and those were NA. The C8Z follows NA Z06 tradition. The C7Z was an anomaly for being supercharged.
@corystansbury
@corystansbury 6 күн бұрын
@@switchlanez Yep. LS6 was a sweet little mill, as well. LS7 was spectacular and still is (minus valve guide issues-- good excuse for a heads/cam package!).
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 6 күн бұрын
Ahh good catch! I got the z06 and the zr1 motors conflated there. Well anyway the point was that the c8 generation of the z06 was a major departure from the previous disparity in engine designs between the base vette and the z06. Whether its a supercharger or increased bore size, the flat plane crank is an insanely different engine -Mike
@SwiftManeuvers
@SwiftManeuvers 7 күн бұрын
The reason the corvette won’t get the respect it deserves from the masses is due to conspicuous consumption. To shorten a long conversation: the car community is diluted by the masses, and how good a car is isn’t what defines it. It’s how the car is perceived, considering branding, prestige, exclusivity, and price.
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 7 күн бұрын
That's a great point. Which makes you wonder...what "great cars" do we love en masse just because they are rare. What great cars are we overlooking because they were not only good, but a great deal so lots of people bought em -Kyle
@captain_context9991
@captain_context9991 6 күн бұрын
If Corvette lacks respect... How about not always claiming WILDLY misleading numbers that the car never lives up to. If you want to feel that spacecadett glow in your chest when you look at a Corvette. How about engineering it and designing it to perfection. Rather than always cutting corners. Instead of doing their own engineering, they simply bought 3 Ferraris and picked them apart. 2 Ferrari 458 Italia, one Speciale, and the third was a 488 GTB. Then they bought the engine out of a crashed Ferrari 458 from an insurance company in Poland and simply copied it.... To give the C06 that flat-plane-crank Ferrari-style, high revving sound. Sure... Corvettes are not trash anymore. They havent been since the C7, but while they are busy copying 12-14 years old Ferraris, the industry is moving on too. If they want respect, then maybe BE somebody instead of always claim to be.
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 6 күн бұрын
Whatever the corvette did to you, I'm sorry lol. They really gotta stop gapping people, it's creating generational traumas. But with that said, they didn't copy it for tech, it was old at the time. They copied it for experience, an experience that was dying with the euro manufactures. Even Ferrari has suffered from this. Many people agree with me when I say I'd take a 458 over an F8 any day. Even though it's "more advanced". They then made sure to give us not only the experience we wanted, but modern performance to back it up. This car was a home run. Not sure how you don't see that, but to each their own. No beef over here, glad you shared the opinion -Kyle
@captain_context9991
@captain_context9991 6 күн бұрын
@@GearGlazers I work in marketing and brand identity... I come at this from a slightly different angle. Its all fine if you want to wave those flags and feel great about yourselves, but this is why hopes and wishes dont translate over to reality. Lap times dont care about your feelings. Its like the new Corvette ZR1 is claimed to accelerate half a second faster than the top-end Koenigsegg and be faster around a track than an SF90 XX. I mean... Doesnt it ever get embarrassing. Any sensible person would take a 458 because it makes a grand a month just standing in your garage. But here we are at the very end of the age of supercars, and America still has not made a single one. I just think its weird.
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 6 күн бұрын
Well I don't mean because of appreciation, I mean because of driving experience (458). Of course both are nice lol. The ZR1 will do those things lol, just wait for it -Kyle
@WindyCity1992
@WindyCity1992 6 күн бұрын
Also as others have said ,Porsche gets favor in BOP , they have made the Corvette vacate multiple classes including SCCA showroom stock class due to the Corvette winning 32 straight over the 944
@jimsteinway695
@jimsteinway695 5 күн бұрын
Who brags about a V8 beating a 4 cyclinder ? The 944S had 200 horsepower, and you’re bragging about beating a car 200 horsepower down? So what? Big deal
@themaninabucket8365
@themaninabucket8365 2 күн бұрын
⁠@@jimsteinway695The c4 corvette had between 230 and 240 horsepower at the time it was banned by the SCCA, only 40-50 more horsepower than the 944. The 944 was also about 4-500 pounds less than the C4.
@redtesta
@redtesta 6 күн бұрын
who cares what porsche thinks. Been rivals a long time and z06's and corvettes period have kicked their arses. Not there to impress the largest snob car owners on earth. Heck, they kicked the corvette out of the escort series in the 80's because it was to good. It was 29-0 vs the porsche 944 turbo at the time. HAd to create the corvette challenge series because of it. GTD , GT3 we can name the racing, look at the championships. Like Corvette cares what porsche thinks.
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 6 күн бұрын
That's some interesting history right there, I'll have to look into it. But hate it or love it I think Porsche is the gold standard. Corvette has been killing it, but it's nice to see some praise from a brand like that. -Kyle
@jarrettgilbert8617
@jarrettgilbert8617 6 күн бұрын
Yea the C6Z isn’t even too far off GT3s on track so they should of been calling
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 6 күн бұрын
😂 -Kyle
@itzanopinion
@itzanopinion 6 күн бұрын
"..It was 29-0 vs the Porsche 944 turbo at the time"....that's not really a 'mic drop' when you have to compare it to the 944!!!!
@jimsteinway695
@jimsteinway695 5 күн бұрын
The corvettes always had hundreds of more horsepower than Porsche. Yet Porsche has way more Lemans wins why?
@ETRNLMangekyo
@ETRNLMangekyo 5 күн бұрын
Porsches are status symbols across the planet. It’s much deeper than engineering that separates these two brands. Show a picture of a Porsche to any woman & she’ll spot it immediately, show her this and she’ll call it a Ferrari.
@c8z06vitoria
@c8z06vitoria 20 сағат бұрын
I had several 911’s and now I have a 2023 Z06/07 70th Anniversary edition in Pearl white and I just love this C8 Z06, I’ll take the Z06 over any 911 without a doubt, just a masterpiece engine and finally a excellent craftsmanship to match, just a beautiful car all around.
@transam2002ws6
@transam2002ws6 2 күн бұрын
Lol. Dude in the green shirt must have never read a Car&Driver, Raod&Track magazine or watched any motocross event like Imsa. Since the 60's corvette have been racing and they've been back and forth with Porsche for ages. C4's were the ones that actually scared Porsche's at the track first.
@paulbellas8797
@paulbellas8797 6 күн бұрын
American Engineering hasn't been bad. We just focused on displacement and power over precision. That's been the big difference most of these years when comparing the corvette and 911. The Lemans winning GT-40 would certainly be an example of American engineering stomping the Europeans.
@WindyCity1992
@WindyCity1992 6 күн бұрын
Precision??? A high displacement engine is small in phyiscal size, which has a high power capacity, and the reliability of an economy car sounds like precision to me 😅
@paulbellas8797
@paulbellas8797 6 күн бұрын
@@WindyCity1992 Moe in the engineering of the overall car. From the finishes to tolerances of body parts etc. The 911 has typically been a notch above. Not sure way you are arguing about unless you believe the build quality of a corvette is better than a Porsche?
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 6 күн бұрын
Agreed, but it's very cool to see them competing on a technology that has been exclusively European -Kyle
@gene7314
@gene7314 5 күн бұрын
Porsche shoulda called when GM made the C6 Z06 Z07 package because that car is still showing tail lights everywhere 13 years later. And the C7 ZR1 put the C8 Z06 on the map. That's the GT2 equivalent from Corvette. I wish GM would have put a bigger effort into maxing it out at the N-ring. They never got to run it over there.
@MrAleB305
@MrAleB305 7 күн бұрын
where did you guys hear about this call that was made? Just curious. I want a z06 so bad lol
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 7 күн бұрын
I was watching an interview with Tadge Juechter when I heard it, stuck with me for years finally got to talk about it lol. It's an amazing car man, worth every penny -Kyle
@Desert_Rogue_Tanker
@Desert_Rogue_Tanker 6 күн бұрын
You could have easily had taken the stock 6.2 ,destroke it to 5.5 or so and put in a flat plane crank. You can get a cam in block v8 to rev to 10,000 if you build it right
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 5 күн бұрын
Define easily lol. It's a world-class engineering feat that the LT6 doesn't vibrate itself out of the engine bay before the break-in period -Mike
@Bill-xx2yh
@Bill-xx2yh 4 күн бұрын
What’s the BEST CAR In AMERICA? It’s a 1963 straight six Ford, Side Step pick up with a Granny Low, rusted floor and muddy. AND…That ain’t no lie. NO WORRIES, SUPER FUN TO DRINE, CHEAP PARTS. In several years as a daily driver, one floor mounted "high beam" light switch $4:00 installed, 2:AM in itty bitty gas station. Never locked it, retreaded tires no flats. Ah 1,200 mile scenic road trip through the sunny Nebraska Sand Hills and New Mexico. Nobody wanted to rob me and no locked doors. It’s was seriously cheaply getting used to it, but then fun, true story..
@aaronwilliams6165
@aaronwilliams6165 4 күн бұрын
I want competition to continue, I want a Z06 for all of these reasons. MERICA!!!!
@rewind8822
@rewind8822 6 күн бұрын
This video was 5x longer than it needed to be like trying to reach word count on a 10,000 word essay
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 6 күн бұрын
Ya know when we were watching it over, we we're wondering if we should make it shorter, or if people like the discussion and tangents that come with a 20 minute video -Kyle
@jarrettgilbert8617
@jarrettgilbert8617 6 күн бұрын
Whole point of the video is to sit in on the conversation tangents included
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 6 күн бұрын
We really appreciate that @jarrett, thanks for the support 🙏 -Kyle
@Rek_Rc
@Rek_Rc 6 күн бұрын
The best video length is difficult to determine at times. You want to inform, but also entertain without dwelling or lingering on one subject for too long. It's not an exact science, otherwise it wouldn't be creative.
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 6 күн бұрын
I could see that, seems it's something you get better at along the way -Kyle
@allmylifebassheadz
@allmylifebassheadz 6 күн бұрын
GREAT CONTENT BROTHERS YOUR CHANNEL IS GONNA BLOW UP KEEP GRINDIN. COLUMBIA SC IN HERE #ALLMYLIFEBASSHEADZ
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 6 күн бұрын
We appreciate you fam 🙏 Just peeped your page, never knew Columbia had a car scene like that, dope to see -Kyle
@allmylifebassheadz
@allmylifebassheadz 6 күн бұрын
@GearGlazers YESSIR THANKS AND GODSPEED
@0828csman
@0828csman 6 күн бұрын
8-12 weeks away from having one... Super excited!
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 6 күн бұрын
Oh man I'm excited for you, what color did you go for? -Kyle
@commto9705
@commto9705 3 күн бұрын
Vipers and c5r where mopping up Porsches in the early 2000s in GT2
@WindyCity1992
@WindyCity1992 6 күн бұрын
3rd and lastly, Corvettes have outperformed EU exotics for over 40 years. No disrespect to you guys but there was a gap in research done before this was posted. Look up comparisons of Vipers & Corvettes against EU cars. The EU cars would lose in the performance metrics and win in the subjectives
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 6 күн бұрын
That's what's so special about this car. It's winning both. It's not just a massive engine putting out tons of hp, it is matching the driving experience that's what makes this car so special -Kyle
@JohnWhite-r1l
@JohnWhite-r1l 6 күн бұрын
You’re literally just an American fanboy corvettes haven’t been ever in top 10 of the fastest cars ever corvettes aren’t beating the likes of koenigsegg or Bugatti if anything those two alone beat anything from American including ssc and Hennessey sorry but corvettes are severely overrated
@Arithmophobia
@Arithmophobia 6 күн бұрын
@@JohnWhite-r1l bruh nobody gives af about top speed, we're talking about track cars
@WindyCity1992
@WindyCity1992 5 күн бұрын
​@GearGlazers The corvette has never had a massive engine. Even the C6 Z06 engine was only 454 ibs, which is lighter than a Porsche flat 6, which is Over 520 ibs.
@WindyCity1992
@WindyCity1992 5 күн бұрын
​@Arithmophobia Don't engage with people like that. Porsche has never had a speed record either , doesn't matter lol. These people are hostile over cars/objects. Sad
@raymondhumphrey2749
@raymondhumphrey2749 6 күн бұрын
Agreed..I Traded In my E-Ray for the 2025 ZO6.. The C8 ZO6,One like None 👍💯🙏...
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 6 күн бұрын
Wow, I think you made the right choice but I've heard the E-Ray is also incredible. After switching, what are some of the cons (if any) you notice? -Kyle
@63CommonSense
@63CommonSense 6 күн бұрын
The difference in Chevy and Porsche to me is quality of craftsmanship. Chevy has always been able to build fast cars, but they are cheaply made. I'm glad.Chevy has designed a car that can perform on the level of other super cars, I also hope they have solved the quality control issues that still plague the American car industry. Cureent Ford GT is not included.
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 5 күн бұрын
I don't know if they've caught them here yet, but I think if this is all that's left we've made great progress -Kyle
@jimsteinway695
@jimsteinway695 5 күн бұрын
Nailed it. I bought a 23 Z06/Z07 htc. The interior was better than the c7 but the gaps in the panels were huge from door to dash. The deviated stitching looked like a drunk guy did it the second lcd panel rattled like crazy. That would never escape a Porsche quality control. I bought a new 24 Huracan and its fit and finish is even above Porsche. But GM has to fix that if they want to sell $200,000 cars. The C8 prices are tanking right now probably due to the quality problems including Z06. I saw a 23 3LT Z06with 100 miles sell at Meccum for $120,000 Saturday
@markw9512
@markw9512 11 сағат бұрын
Unless you guys were born after 2016, the Z06 has not been supercharged throughout your lives. Prior to the C7 version of the Z06 introduced in 2015, all Z06s were naturally aspirated, no turbochargers/superchargers.
@pasqualelamperelli6369
@pasqualelamperelli6369 5 күн бұрын
That's not true when you say that Corvette isn't respected in the Porsche realm. I am a through and through Porsche lover and owner. I thoroughly respect Corvette. Up until the new age of the Z06 I would have made the argument that the car wasn't on the same level as Porsche when it came to a balance of performance. That isn't to take away from the previous models, they are remarkable cars in their own way. The new Z06 is a perfect balance of performance. I still am a Porsche lover and would buy a Porsche over a Vette, but that's just because I am to Porsche what you are to Corvette.
@Cee_M3
@Cee_M3 6 күн бұрын
The C8 is an excellent car. I do think it will get it's respect. So many years of cheap interiors, materials, driving experience, build quality, and GMs reputation, it will simply take time to erase that from the minds of the masses. The American car image of "fast until you have to turn". Caddy Blackwing is also a perfect example of a truly excellent car that is underappreciated. Why? Because it's a Caddy. People are only recently getting over their image of a Caddy. Until the late the 90s, Japanese sports cars weren't given their respect either. Hyundai took over 30 years for people to forget they made the Excel and actually want to buy them. Still, the Stinger didn't sell. It was a very impressive car, and the old head of BMWs M division was the head. Back to the Vette. Most want more than just the numbers to go with the overall driving experience. It's why "slower" sports cars can outsell better performing sports cars. Beginning with the C7, and especially the C8, they are simply excellent cars. I would own them. With the Vettes and Blackwings, I remember asking myself "Is GM is finally hiring engineers? Did they take them off the bench and put them in the game while sending management home?!?!
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 6 күн бұрын
These are great points, the key really is consistency. I agree that it takes time to build trust with the consumer. Thanks for the comment, well said -Kyle
@Foregrlz
@Foregrlz 6 күн бұрын
EXCELLENT post!!
@Ifyoutroll
@Ifyoutroll 5 күн бұрын
I drove my first 911 about 8 years ago and I was blown away, then I drove a c6 z06 and realized why the Porsche guys hate corvettes so much. Lol it was at least 95% of the performance for less than half of t he money…brand snobs are so insecure.
@protectandswerve
@protectandswerve 5 күн бұрын
Which 911 did you drive?? BIG differences!! Go drive a 911 Turbo S with a set of Cup 2R tires around a track and you'll QUICKLY understand why Porsche cost more! Not knocking a Corvette. Love them, minus the looks of the C8. Too over done IMO. But for the money, they're awesome cars. Just not my taste.
@Ifyoutroll
@Ifyoutroll 5 күн бұрын
@ it actually was a turbo s albeit an older one a 2013 I believe (it was an absolute rocket ship) however while driving the owner starts telling me things about the car and when he says he paid essentially 200k i thought to myself well it makes sense that it’s so good. When I drove the c6 z06 though I was also blown away, sure the car was a little more rough around the edges but it was honestly more fun and felt just as fast. Especially from a roll when I got out of the vette realizing one could’ve been had new for 65k and for around 45k when I drove it. I knew which car I’d take. Maybe it comes from growing up dirt poor…but I really appreciate value for my dollars and with every generation corvette closes that gap in “quality “ and if you were to compare a Porsche at the same price range as a corvette it wouldn’t be close… no matter how nice the interior is.
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 5 күн бұрын
This was so well said, maybe it does come from growing up 😂 Somehow value is like the most important metric in a car for me. This argument really does come down to that. If the GT3 was 100k and the Z06 was 200k I'd literally have the opposite argument. -Kyle
@protectandswerve
@protectandswerve 5 күн бұрын
@@Ifyoutroll Understood. FTR I grew up like you and am NOT rich. I worked a TON of OT and still work full time to be able to afford some of my past / present dream cars. You Drove a 2013 which was last year of the 997.2 Gen. Chassis. I used to own a 2012 (the 997.2 Gen.) 911 Turbo S for 2.5 years.. I upgraded to a 2017 991.2 Gen. 911 Turbo S, owned for 4+ years now. I'll tell you there's a MAJOR difference in the 991.2 Chassis / Handling / Performance vs. my old 997.2 TTS. The 992.1 911 Turbo S is even better in the performance / handling dept. So my comment was more about Current model Turbo S with Cup 2R's. Don't get me wrong, the 997.2 was awesome and fast but the 991 Chassis was Leaps and Bounds better. I'd only paid $85K for my 997.2 TTS. and now only have $140k in my 991.2 Turbo S. It's got a tune / exhaust only and makes 700 hp. With Cup2's it's Amazing on track and in the mountains. I can't buy a ZO6 for what I have in my car as of now, so I'll definitely keep my Porsche for the money and when on track, it'll be ALL about the driver and how much he / she is willing to hang it out and risk their investment for a lap time. Only very very few people ever drive their cars to the limits like some of us do / have. As an EVOC driving instructor, I have a skill set built to experience this vs. you're average person, so with Tech in most ALL performance cars these days. being SO Good, it's really about what you like / prefer looks / brand wise. I also have a supercharged Honda S2000 (397whp) and a stock 23' Camaro 2SS1LE 6MT that I LOVE to drive too. The Camaro 1LE handling Almost as well as my Porsche, so you don't have to spend a ton of money to drive an Amazing car these days. I'm all for anyone buying what they can afford and what they like. At 53 now, I've loved and lusted after exotic type cars since I was a little kid and finally realized some of my dream cars in my older years. I'm blessed. SO many more I'd like to own and experience still. We live in Amazing times for performance vehicles!!
@protectandswerve
@protectandswerve 5 күн бұрын
@@Ifyoutroll @GearGlazers Understood. FTR I grew up like you and am NOT rich. I worked a TON of OT and still work full time to be able to afford some of my past / present dream cars. You Drove a 2013 which was last year of the 997.2 Gen. Chassis. I used to own a 2012 (the 997.2 Gen.) 911 Turbo S for 2.5 years.. I upgraded to a 2017 991.2 Gen. 911 Turbo S, owned for 4+ years now. I'll tell you there's a MAJOR difference in the 991.2 Chassis / Handling / Performance vs. my old 997.2 TTS. The 992.1 911 Turbo S is even better in the performance / handling dept. So my comment was more about Current model Turbo S with Cup 2R's. Don't get me wrong, the 997.2 was awesome and fast but the 991 Chassis was Leaps and Bounds better. I'd only paid $85K for my 997.2 TTS. and now only have $140k in my 991.2 Turbo S. It's got a tune / exhaust only and makes 700 hp. With Cup2's it's Amazing on track and in the mountains. I can't buy a ZO6 for what I have in my car as of now, so I'll definitely keep my Porsche for the money and when on track, it'll be ALL about the driver and how much he / she is willing to hang it out and risk their investment for a lap time. Only very very few people ever drive their cars to the limits like some of us do / have. As an EVOC driving instructor, I have a skill set built to experience this vs. you're average person, so with Tech in most ALL performance cars these days. being SO Good, it's really about what you like / prefer looks / brand wise. I also have a supercharged Honda S2000 (397whp) and a stock 23' Camaro 2SS1LE 6MT that I LOVE to drive too. The Camaro 1LE handling Almost as well as my Porsche, so you don't have to spend a ton of money to drive an Amazing car these days. I'm all for anyone buying what they can afford and what they like. At 53 now, I've loved and lusted after exotic type cars since I was a little kid and finally realized some of my dream cars in my older years. I'm blessed. SO many more I'd like to own and experience still. We live in Amazing times for performance vehicles!!
@lollolol3700
@lollolol3700 2 күн бұрын
I agree with the guy on the left! very well spoken
@jarrettgilbert8617
@jarrettgilbert8617 6 күн бұрын
I’d bet most Porsche owners don’t drive their cars to the limit or close to it…so it’s definitely not because of the driving characteristics as they’d claim..it’s mostly based on status.. and driving a corvette doesn’t show the same status as a Porsche
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 6 күн бұрын
That's true, and I'm hoping that this generation can change that. Hopefully status can be about more than exclusivity -Kyle
@rd1992-l3j
@rd1992-l3j 6 күн бұрын
For many years, the European automotive press referred to the Corvette ( particularly the C3 ) as a "Yank Tank", that was fine for wide and smooth US boulevards but not good on challenging European roads.
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 6 күн бұрын
Interesting. It's a lot of fun when I learn things from the comments. I imagine track times are the ultimate equalizer, but I would be curious to see a street-driving review of this car in a European city -Kyle
@TheWityful
@TheWityful 5 күн бұрын
It’s gotten to the point where I lose respect for people who claim their dream car is the GT3RS. It just tells me they worship the popular sentiment of the internet.
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 5 күн бұрын
I've heard a few cartubers say this, most fans you're probably right about, but there are some purists for sure -Kyle
@blaw11b
@blaw11b 6 күн бұрын
You know Corvette went 32-0 against Porsche...Back in the 1980's and early 1990's!!!what's wild is as many times Corvette has absolutely decimated competitors like Porsche, Ferrari in IMSA/ WEC at the 24-hour of LeMans over the past 25 years and they're just now earning Porsche's respect?! I find that hard to believe the C5.r and C6.r placed an overall victory at LeMans and Corvette has been one of the winningest sports car brands in racing of the New millennia. This narrative died back in 2005 guys.
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 6 күн бұрын
Thanks for the comment, and I agree racing is a different ball game. In the consumer car space, they've made massive leaps -Kyle
@Hellcat-pg5pq
@Hellcat-pg5pq 5 күн бұрын
Love the content and format. Bravo !! C8 ZO6 is a Supercar and the ZR1 is a Hyper Car even though they are Corvettes. ♥
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 5 күн бұрын
I couldn't agree more💪 We appreciate you! -Kyle
@thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921
@thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921 6 күн бұрын
The real story of the Z06 is its plugged up from the factory, and with that Eventuri intake, Soler throttle body and exhaust the car is devastating for under 5k. Throw the ZR1 wing and more underside aero and instant GT3 RS beater guaranteed. Dudes are maxing out these cars already, and both ZR1 carbon fiber FRUNK and wing are on sale in the aftermarket.
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 6 күн бұрын
This is crazy, I've never looked at the Z06 and thought this thing is slacking from factory 😂 I'm going to look up some vids of what you're talking about. That ZR1 frunk is like the best part of that car lol (aesthetically), that's a great mod -Kyle
@Thumper68
@Thumper68 5 күн бұрын
In 1967 Porsche had nothing that would touch 67 427 corvette. The corvette was over a second faster 0-60 and in the quarter mile.
@jimsteinway695
@jimsteinway695 5 күн бұрын
Porsche barely had 160 horsepower with a flat 6 in 1967. Why would you brag about beating that with a 427? The flat 6s weren’t even 2 liters! And you’re bragging with a 7 liter motor. Wow that’s serious technology there boy. And it was only a second faster 0-60. Id be ashamed if I was that slow with a vette
@Thumper68
@Thumper68 5 күн бұрын
@ not bragging I’m saying corvette been beating Porsche since 50 years ago Chevrolet isn’t looking for their approval. And over a second 0-60 is a lot!
@barryfoster6265
@barryfoster6265 11 сағат бұрын
European cars aren’t for 1/4 mile racing, they’re endurance racing cars….. not a great comparison!! But the L88 67 corvette did extremely well at endurance racing as well…….. just saying 1/4 mile comparison favors the U.S. cars.
@jimsteinway695
@jimsteinway695 11 сағат бұрын
@ EXACTLY . most Americans can’t understand that Europeans do find drag racing that entertaining. They enjoy TURNING . Otherwise a Tesla is better than most corvettes and we can all agree we don’t like EVs
@warrengee-f9l
@warrengee-f9l 5 күн бұрын
the C4 in the 80s freaked them out Porsche was trying to claim GM was dumping then on the market at a low subsidized price .. C4 Corvette was damn impressive for ? 35 G... but wait C8 ZR1 😁
@ianfichera3102
@ianfichera3102 2 күн бұрын
the z06 isnt “the supercharged version of a corvette” the c5 z06 and c6 z06 were both naturally aspirated it wasnt until the c7 that they made them supercharged
@ianfichera3102
@ianfichera3102 2 күн бұрын
also its not an ls in the c8 its an lt
@RB-xv4si
@RB-xv4si 6 күн бұрын
GM did not benchmark their new C8 Z06 off of this GT2 you keep referencing and showing footage of. This is the GT2 RS Clubsport. It’s an ultra-limited 25 unit production run that’s not even street legal and in the grand scheme of the 911 has very little relevance overall. What makes you think this very obscure and limited production run non-street legal variant was used by GM as a benchmark? That makes no sense.
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 6 күн бұрын
Well what we said is that they benchmarked the GT2. Which they did. The images we show are always different versions of the car we're talking about. If we talk about a Z06, sometimes we'll show a base, sometimes a z07, etc. -Kyle
@RB-xv4si
@RB-xv4si 6 күн бұрын
@ you’re a little confused. Porsche never made a car that was simply called the “GT2”. Recent cars Porsche have produced that have “GT2” in the name have been the GT2 RS Clubsport (ultra-limited track-only, 25 units produced) that you show in your video and the street-legal GT2 RS that Porsche introduced as a variant of the 991.2 generation 911. It was the latter version that GM used to benchmark their C8 Z06.
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 6 күн бұрын
When we say GT2 we are referring to the GT2 RS -Kyle
@RB-xv4si
@RB-xv4si 6 күн бұрын
@ then why are you showing footage of the GT2 RS Clubsport? Those are two entirely different cars.
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 6 күн бұрын
When we talk about cars we show different versions of them, if we talk about an M4 we may show a competition, a csl, etc. -Kyle
@theknowbot5000
@theknowbot5000 6 күн бұрын
Even the z06 is half the price
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 6 күн бұрын
Exactlyyy -Kyle
@jimsteinway695
@jimsteinway695 5 күн бұрын
I had a 2018 GT3 that was $155,000 with options. My 23 Z06/Z07 htc was $163,500. How is a Z06 half price. You guys are delusional
@johnnyhuie74
@johnnyhuie74 5 күн бұрын
i own a zo6 and 911 turbo i love them both for different reasons
@williamtricarico6684
@williamtricarico6684 6 күн бұрын
Starting with the C-4, Corvette surpassed Porsche in many technological advances in performance, braking, as well as competitive racing.
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 6 күн бұрын
If you go missing tomorrow I'll tell em you were brave -Kyle
@jimsteinway695
@jimsteinway695 5 күн бұрын
That’s the biggest lie in the history of motor racing. It wasn’t until the C6/C7 that GM was even competitive. Sure some vettes with 7 liter 427s beat up on 1.8 liter 140 horsepower 911s earlier ONLY because they had a 5 liter advantage in displacement. You vette guys live in la la land. And sure the vettes beat some 4 cylinder 944 cats but who brags about beating a 4 cylinder, but never in the history of motor racing has GM been ahead of Porsche in braking or technology EVER 😊
@williamwatts6384
@williamwatts6384 5 күн бұрын
The C5R put Corvette on the world stage! The C6R made Europe retire. The C7R was punished with having to add extra weight.
@JamesSpencer-f7u
@JamesSpencer-f7u 6 күн бұрын
Can;t wait to see you get to test drive the 1064 hp ZR1.
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 6 күн бұрын
I dream about driving that car 😂 -Kyle
@rdd014r
@rdd014r 5 күн бұрын
Maybe Porsche can call them back and convince them to put a manual back in.
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 5 күн бұрын
😂😂 -Kyle
@tgchris2222
@tgchris2222 6 күн бұрын
If you need to show off to your rich friends, Porsche GT or Turbo, if you want the better looking Supercar, the better sounding Supercar and the better overall performing Supercar …..Z06. The GT3 is amazing, but I don’t like it as my daily at low RPM’s, the Z is more comfortable across the power band. As a straight track car then go GT3.
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 6 күн бұрын
I'm taking the z06 on price alone, but car for car price not included, it's certainly close -Kyle
@tgchris2222
@tgchris2222 6 күн бұрын
@ every time I take out my Z, it’s like the first time. It’s a event and it’s special. I’ve had it 1 year in NJ, don’t see very many on the road. It might be mass produced but low volumes in NJ so far….
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 6 күн бұрын
Ya know I live in Miami, where I see a lambo every 15 seconds, and I don't see very many Z's at all. I keep wondering where the thousands of cars they built are 😂. As for the feeling, I couldn't agree more. I don't know how I'd beat it -Kyle
@jvoltx10
@jvoltx10 6 күн бұрын
The one video I was waiting for and solidifying I gotta get a Z06
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 6 күн бұрын
You will not regret it lol, except get a used one the depreciation is one thing that does not compare with a GT3 😂-Kyle
@jimsteinway695
@jimsteinway695 5 күн бұрын
As a 25 year 911 driver including 20 years driving 3 GT3s and an owner of the 23 C8 Z06 hard top convertible, I can tell you they wholly missed the mark. By a long way. First of all I’ll start out with the fact GM NAILED the engine! Best sweetest motor I’ve ever owned or heard and I’ve driven several 458s. But after that it missed. And it’s not half the price of a gt3. My 18 was $150,000. My Z06/Z07 was $165,000. That’s pretty equivalent. And don’t even try to say it’s even in the same universe with the GT2RS. Here’s the problem with the Z06/Z07. Yea same brakes as the GT3 if you have the brembo Carbo ceramic brakes on the Z07.(standard on the Z07)But they’re MUSHY. The brakes are digital so they didn’t programmed them correctly. I had to use massive foot pressure to get them to pay attention to stop. The PDK on the Porsche is close to perfect. It shifts when you think about shifting. I stopped putting it in manual because it’s better than me. The DCT in the Z07 hunts. It shifts when I don’t want it to and it DOESNT shift when I want it to. Again more bad systems engineering. The ediff is HORRIBLE. I drove a friends c8 z51 and that stingray is better in the corner than the Z07. The z07 cuts horsepower when the ediff isn’t happy. It should have a mechanical limited slip diff. The car tramlines terribly. It follows ANY line on the road, even paint that’s no longer there. You have to CONSTANTLY. be on top of the car or you’re off the road. Probably because of the ridiculous huge unnecessary tires. The interior is below standards of Porsche Lamborghini or Ferrari. It’s close to McLaren because theirs suck. The deviated stitching looks like a drunk guy did it. My second screen rattles anytime it feels like it. I’ve never had a rattle that bad in any high end sports car I’ve driven. I had to put a credit card behind it to stop the rattle. The interior is better than the C7 but still not close to a $200,000k car . Overall it feels like a car that can be good but at that volume the quality control isn’t enough to catch all these problems. I took my name OFF the ZR1 list after this car. And here’s another problem. The market agrees with me. The prices are tanking. If this car was what you say it was and not what I say it is, its price would at least hold at MSRP, but it’s not. You can find 23,24s for 35,000-45,000 off the MSRP. Look on Graham Rahals website. Cars with less than 1000 miles, for $40,000 off MSRP. I think the ZR1 won’t hold its mark ups for 2 years like the Z06 did after this. This can all be fixed but it hasn’t yet. Why? I’m guessing the ZR1 will be at MSRP 1 year after release. Great effort, it really is. But GM needs to fix these issues before proclaiming it’s as good as Porsche GT3 because it’s not. How can the Z06 not out lap a GT3 RS with 200 more horsepower? That’s almost impossible to do. Lose to a car with 200 less horsepower. The motor deserves to be put in a better car. It’s a great motor. Better than Fords GT 3.5 liter twin turbo. But the rest of the car needs work. Porsche INVENTED the dual clutch transmission how’s GM going to be better on its first try with Tremec? It wasn’t. I don’t understand the brembo brakes they should be good but they’re not. After a couple months with this flawed Z07 I sold it and bought a new Lamborghini Huracan Technica. It’s what the Z06 isn’t. But Lamborghini has the technology Porsche uses. GM does not….yet. Just saw a 23 3LT Z06/Z07 still in delivery plastic sell Saturday at Meccum for $120,000. With delivery miles. That’s 40,000 off MSRP.
@jsanch1892
@jsanch1892 3 күн бұрын
The Z06 actually has never been the “supercharged” variant ……
@nighttrain1565
@nighttrain1565 5 күн бұрын
Owned several Corvettes, raced several Porsches, was never aware there was ever a rivalry between the two😅 why would there be? I don't even understand where this came from. What rivalry are you guys talking about? As a Corvette guy and a Porsche guy this doesn't make sense to me because I think I would have heard about it lol
@ZedNinetySix_
@ZedNinetySix_ 4 күн бұрын
Good channel, subbed.
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 4 күн бұрын
We appreciate you! And growing up the Viper was my dream car. This American car that was so cool/high performing it could hang with the exotics (for half the price). I know the C8 Z is very different, but I felt it took the same place in the market as the Viper. The viper was discontinued, so I went with this. -Kyle
@jerrymiller2891
@jerrymiller2891 5 күн бұрын
I love porsche. I love corvette. Both are amazing.
@lesterfernandez9868
@lesterfernandez9868 6 күн бұрын
You say "LIKE" too much like a high school kid
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 6 күн бұрын
Hey thats my crutch word go find your own -Mike
@joshknutson16
@joshknutson16 5 күн бұрын
It’s still a corvette tho, and everyone and their mother has one 🥱
@ericmiller5011
@ericmiller5011 6 күн бұрын
C8 Z06 vs. the world!
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 6 күн бұрын
🙏💪-Kyle
@yountune9799
@yountune9799 5 күн бұрын
My Z06 is okay. It's more fun to drive than 911 Carrera GTS but C8 needs a track focused variant. No power seats, no creature comfort, strait pipes, super light weight (around 3000 lbs) total stripped down track focused variant and only make 500 of them. Like the Ferrari 488 Pista. It's a totally different car from daily variant the Ferrari 488 GTB.
@TheIggy58
@TheIggy58 5 күн бұрын
The TurboS is top of 911 road car line. 0-60
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 5 күн бұрын
It has converted many of the ones I know personally. The z06 is now selling at msrp, and you don't have to get all the bells and whistles, you can grab a new one for like $110k, a used one fore even less -Kyle
@evertonantonioangelosouza5789
@evertonantonioangelosouza5789 5 күн бұрын
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@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 5 күн бұрын
Que avaliação incrível! Fico feliz que os Corvettes tenham fãs ao redor do mundo -Kyle
@TruthMerc
@TruthMerc 6 күн бұрын
1 is false but the new ZR1 is faster than the spider
@Pboy7272
@Pboy7272 5 күн бұрын
Like, I love the Z06.
@FugitiveVette
@FugitiveVette 6 күн бұрын
Wait for the ZR1!
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 5 күн бұрын
Facts -Kyle
@Foregrlz
@Foregrlz 6 күн бұрын
You guys have a new subscriber 😊
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 6 күн бұрын
We really appreciate that, glad you're enjoying the content! -Kyle
@Foregrlz
@Foregrlz 6 күн бұрын
@GearGlazers now I'm watching ALL your vids....lol
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 6 күн бұрын
That means a lot man 😂 We've been trying to put effort into making the content better and better so we apologize if those old ones need some work lol -Kyle
@Foregrlz
@Foregrlz 6 күн бұрын
@@GearGlazers will your growth lead to actual drives/POV? also pointing out the nuances of certain cars? It's hard and subjective to mention things like a driving experience but things like comfort in ride /seating , vision , butt dyno etc can be brought into play ....... good to have different favorites as Mike is the bmw fan boy!
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 6 күн бұрын
haha those are good points, and it definitely can, we've got lots of things in mind once the channel really starts picking up steam. Also Mike has to live with that title now lol -Kyle
@obobobobobi
@obobobobobi 6 күн бұрын
Yes ZO6 is a great car. The only problem is you can't tell apart from other C8 Corvettes the Porsches are a bit different and you can tell em appart on the ZO6 you dont know and its a problem. At least give it a paint cholor scheme that is different from others something visual that is easy to spot
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 6 күн бұрын
I can not argue with this. Car people can tell. I can tell immediately, even from a ways away. But most people just see a nice C8, which is definitely a problem. You're spending so much money for such a special car, and the C8 is everywhere. You really need the car to be differentiated. Z07 package helps of course. -Kyle
@jimhimesjr
@jimhimesjr 6 күн бұрын
Not sure I completely agree as to non car people a regular Porsche looks like a gt3. A GT3 touring looks like a base 911 with an added sticker/emblem and nice wheels. PTS can make a Porsche more special but you can do that on any of their cars. Not just “special GT” car. Not bashing Porsche as they are great too.
@snozbaries7652
@snozbaries7652 6 күн бұрын
@@jimhimesjr Good point but you don't see many Porsches driving around the in the US. So that makes them more special by default no matter what spec.
@WindyCity1992
@WindyCity1992 6 күн бұрын
There are several 911 models. Only 3 of them look unique. GT3 , GT3RS and GT2RS. The rest can be mistaken easily
@brianlackie5093
@brianlackie5093 6 күн бұрын
Cheverlete was building 2,000 hp fighter air crafts while Porsche was still trying to figure how to biuld a tricycle
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 6 күн бұрын
lol come on, I love a vette as much as the next guy, but Porsche makes great cars 😂 -Kyle
@sherryswisher8911
@sherryswisher8911 6 күн бұрын
GM and Corvette has best Porsche. The C4 killed the 944 Turbo in show room stock. The C5 Z killed the Cayman. The C8 Z has finally moved to kill the GT3. The Corvette has never targeted the top car. But today they have. Don’t forget that they had to ban the C4 in SCCA because Porsche 944 could not win. So GM used the Camaro and Firebird and won.
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 5 күн бұрын
Just wait for the ZR1 and Zora, that's going to be a tough pill -Kyle
@andersongustave7306
@andersongustave7306 3 күн бұрын
Germans don’t make any n/a engine anymore tbh, it’s all turbo charged so that statement doesn’t matter
@stevehrocks
@stevehrocks 6 күн бұрын
There is just as much, if not more, precision engineering in the Corvette. Stop selling it short.
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 6 күн бұрын
Never said there wasn't, in fact I said there was, and it's a level most people wouldn't expect -Kyle
@brycecampbell4845
@brycecampbell4845 4 күн бұрын
What does GM have to do to earn my respect? How about building a car that will last 300,000 miles like a Porsche. Refining their product, and not screwing over Corvette owners for more profits. Because they've certainly done that with the 07' ZO6 when they gave the base model 450hp and the ZO6 had 500. They screwed the value of the ZO6 owners and I'm still not over it. And they want massive prices for junk that is unreliable at best.
@WilliamOrtscheid-t5u
@WilliamOrtscheid-t5u 6 күн бұрын
They did look at 25 zr1
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 5 күн бұрын
!! -Kyle
@NigelEharis
@NigelEharis 5 күн бұрын
Only one z06 was supercharged…..
@BillieTheTank
@BillieTheTank 2 күн бұрын
Let’s start with learning how to pronounce Porsche. Respect comes later.
@brianlackie5093
@brianlackie5093 6 күн бұрын
Europeans have always underestimated American engineering. Europeans seemed to forget that if it wasn't for American engineering Europe would be Germany. American cars has always been a top contender. Ford outran Ferrari in the 60s. Foerd out ran Porsche in the 2000s. Give me a break... the Corvette has always been faster than a Porsche...
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 6 күн бұрын
Well, compare the c7 Z06 to the GT3 for example. Let's go 2019 for consistency. The GT3 was faster to 60, and faster around plenty tracks. I love vettes, hell I bought one and put my money where my mouth is, but we have to give Porsche some credit. The GT3 is an incredible car -Kyle
@goldmanbobby9039
@goldmanbobby9039 4 күн бұрын
The title starts out with a lie. The c6 Corvette was better performing than Porsches twice even three times it's price. So Americans won , but turned around and screwed themselves as usual by not doing what they said they would do with the new C8. An affordable and available high performance sports car.
@tobiasmarohn6030
@tobiasmarohn6030 5 күн бұрын
sounds for me as a german like mimimiiiiimmiiimiiiiiimiiii ,beeper or what is he called ,lol
@user-ie1hg5ov1m
@user-ie1hg5ov1m 5 күн бұрын
To say the Corvette doesn't have performance pedigree is complete nonsense
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 5 күн бұрын
No one is saying that, just that this is a new level -Kyle
@a-dayeight5906
@a-dayeight5906 5 күн бұрын
listen here you two freshmen C7 killed the game for 10 years around all the great tracks C8 was for the people who wanted the exotic configuration the corvette has always been a roadster and still is .
@dangorski2975
@dangorski2975 5 күн бұрын
.... our entire life the z06 has beeen a supercharged variant? what? the c5 was NA the c6 was a LEGENDARY NA.... the z06 was supercharged.... ONCE.... lol
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 5 күн бұрын
Correct! Pasted from a previous commenter who caught this: I got the z06 and the zr1 motors conflated there. Well anyway the point was that the c8 generation of the z06 was a major departure from the previous disparity in engine designs between the base vette and the z06. Whether its a supercharger or increased bore size, the flat plane crank is an insanely different engine -Mike
@brianlackie5093
@brianlackie5093 6 күн бұрын
You can't compare a base Corvette to a 911. There has always been a faster Corvette variant
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 6 күн бұрын
There's also faster 911 variants -Kyle
@geeanyautobodybuilds
@geeanyautobodybuilds 6 күн бұрын
Well, go and prove that its more than HP and tech at the 24 at Daytona and at LaMans and just finished on the podium somewhere. But for now, its a paper tiger. Racing and performance is where a supercar has to prove itself by the drivers and finish on the podium.
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 6 күн бұрын
I agree, but we're starting to see this on tracks like throttle house and savage geese. Real racing is an entirely different story. The cash behind the team really starts to matter. Best drivers, crew, etc -Kyle
@micahstory
@micahstory 4 күн бұрын
Good video, good analysis, but filming it in the back of a Rolls gives off douchey vibes imo.
@Naginc
@Naginc 6 күн бұрын
Great video...but are you serious? I own a couple of vettes and Porsche's. 1) Dealers. The majority of g.m.'s are crap. Dishonest and they do a lot of shady business. I've purchased 3 Porsche's from dealers, super easy. No double talking..ect. 2) G.M. needs to increase their warranty to 4 years 50k miles. If we're being honest, they should exceed a 50k warranty, that would be epic since they preach value. 3) Show me the Porsches where the interior lines don't match up. And again, I own and love my vettes, but truth is the truth. 4) Interior customizations. Bro, g.m. needs to have specific colors for Zr1 and Z06 variants. Also, the material quality has always been a question. I have a 2006 911 C4S..bron it's interior looks better than my C7 Z06. 5) Offer warranty rental cars from dealers. When something is wrong with your car, it's like pulling teeth to get most Chevy dealers to give you a rental that's not an Enterprise eco rental car...Porsche doesn't do this. 7) Lastly I had to go back to customizations. There's no reason gm can't offer custom paints and different colors. The 911 has probably the most customizable platform I've ever seen and gm can meet them or exceed them. But the main color choices are missing colors in-between. Fyi this is a global economy and I know for a fact this isn't the first time Porsche has called to "congratulate" gm. Gm is still one of the most technologically advance auto manufacturers of alltime. Ferrari when developing the 458 purchased the magnetic ride tech from gm.
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 6 күн бұрын
Look, you've got a lot of really great points here. The dealers are tough, and it really detracts from the experience when you need service. A longer warranty would also be epic, the 3 years does feel like they're not super confident. As for the customization, there should be custom colors, and they should allow for a more customized car overall. Porsche is still leading in a lot of ways, I can admit that. But isn't it amazing that we're getting so close those are the things we're focusing on? I think that's a testament to a really great car -Kyle
@jpnphom5470
@jpnphom5470 14 сағат бұрын
C8 rear design sucks….yeah can't forget that boomerang side intakes….. I’ll skip this C8
@brycecampbell4845
@brycecampbell4845 4 күн бұрын
..and you know it's Not quality and you know it's Not refined. It's an unreliable pos
@JoeFreeman-y2d
@JoeFreeman-y2d 18 сағат бұрын
Further correctiom zThe zgulstrand Garner C4 Corvettes sponsored by Shellbeat the factory 944s back in the 80s.. Further correction In the 60s zcorvettes and Cobras and GT350Rs rulled A and B zproduction. Porsches were... werd little evil handling cars relegated to lower classes In the time period 1965 thru 1970 Using a 65 Fuelie Corvette and a 67 427 435 Corvette there was not a stock Porsche of any 911 type that could keep u on the street or in the SCAL canyons. Evemtually Porsche ut a big enough tire on a swollen rear end to rectify hanging the engine out beyond the rear axle IF you understood how to drive it. By then Porsche was up to 4 liters and making pretty fsir power.
@davec3568
@davec3568 6 күн бұрын
"Without Precision Engineering"?!?!? I think the GM engineers might take issue with that. Also, this is GM doing what GM does best, copying other's homework. The C8 Vette and C6 Camaro are reverse engineered Ferraris and BMWs. I'd argue the C6 Camaro was even better than the C8, but the car was too compromised as a daily driver. My '18 SS 1LE is right up there with a C8 Z51 on track, and one roll bar away from being slightly faster. The ZL1 1LE is nearly as fast a C8Z for a little more than half price. Next, Corvette has been competitive on the "world stage" WAYYY before the C8 came out. I'd say nice try but it wasn't that nice, there's a ton of cringe, lack of expertise, and and it's way too long for what it is. Sorry.
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 6 күн бұрын
Nothing wrong with taking notes on your competition. Everyone does. Also we're not saying they don't have precision engineering, we're saying people typically don't think they do. As for the putting them on the world stage, this car has done that in a way none before have. It's been great for a long time, but this generation is another level in many, many ways. I disagree with you, but I appreciate you sharing your views nonetheless -Kyle
@WindyCity1992
@WindyCity1992 6 күн бұрын
Exactly, slap in the face. They have innovated a ton of tech and engineering for cars. The Z06 has 6.8 billion in R&D.
@davec3568
@davec3568 6 күн бұрын
@ "taking notes on your competition" is not the same as reverse engineering and closely copying the car. The Alpha chassis and C8 chassis are close copies of a BMW and a Ferrari. GM made them better than the car they were copying, hence my ownership of an '18 Camaro, but let's call a spade a spade. You can disagree with me, but all I've done is stated some facts you seem unaware of.
@Foregrlz
@Foregrlz 6 күн бұрын
​@davec3568 forgive my ignorance but what exactly got reverse engineered from bmw on C8? Curious and intrigued .....learning also
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 6 күн бұрын
My point is I don't mind that at all. And it wasn't copying. They improved and did it better. The LT6 is the most powerful NA V8 ever built. AND it's flat plane, giving it the sound and feel we all love. If you don't want manufactures to look at great cars and make better versions of them for 1/4 the price, I'm a little confused -Kyle
@jacobwebb8818
@jacobwebb8818 6 күн бұрын
3:09..... Are you sure about that? 😂 Jesus, after 4:55 Im clicking off of the video. Please become more knowledgable before you buy a microphone and make a podcast 😒
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 6 күн бұрын
Lol definitely conflated the historical ZR1 motors with the Z06s there. Point still stands that the LT6 is a wild departure from the formula -MIke
@jacobwebb8818
@jacobwebb8818 6 күн бұрын
@GearGlazers no one is arguing the LT6 isn't a revolution in GM performance V8 engine history, but please try and script your video a little better before recording because saying the Z06 isn't a precision machine when it's arguably GM's most hyperfocused vehicle prior the ZR1'S development and excluding motorsport only vehicles is crazy. The amount of engineering on that engine alone made Lockheed engineers blush. There were several engineer takes on that engine before it was released but just announced and people were talking about how it's an engineering marvel making a flatplane V8 at 5.5 liters is near impossible, much less to put a warranty on it and send it out to the commonfolk (common folk as in road legal, non Motorsports audience). Also, don't forget the C4 ZR1 with the Lotus quad cam engine, also a great phenomenal car and engine
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 6 күн бұрын
Mike isn't an expert on vettes. That's the point here. Not every car guy is an expert on every car. The LT6 is a revolution like you said, in many ways. We're not here to be spotless, we're just here to have genuine conversations about the cars we love. Your passion is clear though, thanks for the comment from a fellow LT6 fan 🙏 -Kyle
@odeirt
@odeirt 5 күн бұрын
Please pronounce Porsche correctly!
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 5 күн бұрын
Pronouncing it "por-sha" as an American is like ordering Taco Bell with a feigned spanish accent -Mike
@WilliamOrtscheid-t5u
@WilliamOrtscheid-t5u 6 күн бұрын
The zr1 better than z06
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 5 күн бұрын
In many ways yes, but the Z06 I think will be the more pure drivers car -Kyle
@VernonRhem
@VernonRhem 5 күн бұрын
Chevy copied the ferrari includi the rear motor
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 5 күн бұрын
Ferrari copied the Ford Model T with the internal combustion engine -Mike
@danchristopher7957
@danchristopher7957 5 күн бұрын
Corvette is too heavy
@lollolol3700
@lollolol3700 2 күн бұрын
woo
@fredeb67
@fredeb67 6 күн бұрын
GT3 RS?
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 6 күн бұрын
which part are ya referencing? -Kyle
@fredeb67
@fredeb67 6 күн бұрын
@GearGlazers Does the Zo6 have a better lap time than a GT3 RS at ANY TRACK.
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 6 күн бұрын
Not that I know about, think the C8 Z needs some time to set lap times everywhere, but there were a few instances where the c7 z was faster. Check it out fastestlaps.com/comparisons/el2oim4d0pua -Kyle
@Arithmophobia
@Arithmophobia 6 күн бұрын
@@fredeb67 it does on the throttle house track
@User77989
@User77989 6 күн бұрын
Sorry, I own a ZR1 I don’t want that Z06 peasant stuff 😂jk I love C8 and C6 Corvettes. I’ve had them both.
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 6 күн бұрын
Before I got to the second part of the comment I was like no way this guy owns a ZR1 lol -Kyle
@User77989
@User77989 6 күн бұрын
@@GearGlazers oh no, I definitely own a ZR1 it’s just not the C8 I want a manual I sold my C8 because it was an auto and went down the generations to get a manual because I wanted the top dog and I prefer the front engine the C8 limits you to do a lot of different things besides going around the bend
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 5 күн бұрын
Yeah I've heard a few people say that, that's why I think it was such a risk for them to go mid engine -Kyle
@ZedNinetySix_
@ZedNinetySix_ 4 күн бұрын
They're good. But the Viper is king.
@User77989
@User77989 6 күн бұрын
Sorry, I own a ZR1 I don’t want that Z06 peasant stuff 😂jk
@killstreak758
@killstreak758 5 күн бұрын
A corvette 😂😂😂😂 will never touch a gt3. It's still only a corvette. 😂😂😂😂😂 COMPLETELY DELUSIONAL.
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 5 күн бұрын
It has though...factually...in many metrics, this is what we're talking about when we say many people are unwilling to let a car be better than it has been. Stuck in seeing it a certain way -Kyle
@EST1266
@EST1266 5 күн бұрын
Those 911’s only compete wit z06 cus they’ll never be on the level of a zr1 🥱
@killstreak758
@killstreak758 5 күн бұрын
Listen, the Zr1 is great, the corvette (THE AMERICAN SUPERCAR!!!!! 😏😏😏😏. It's just that a CORVETTE) LOL. 🤣😂🤣😂. That being said, the Ford gt has proven itself, better that the corvette better than ferrari and not overly produced every year, so get your high socks off, take them jean shorts off and wear regular clothes 😉 enjoy the Legend that the vetted has made ( non existent) and be proud of it. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. COMPLETELY DELUSIONAL.
@EST1266
@EST1266 5 күн бұрын
@@killstreak758 Who said anything about ford? Vettes being mass produced keeps costs down which is more of a plus than anything🤷‍♂️ and if you say it’s “just a corvette” you’re 100% not a car guy
@killstreak758
@killstreak758 5 күн бұрын
@EST1266 lol because I don't like cheap plastic made cars from America I'm not a car guy lol 😆 😂 🤣 😅 😄 😜 yeah you're right 😉
@captain_context9991
@captain_context9991 6 күн бұрын
Corvette has always been looked down upon because in comparison to the best out of Europe, Corvette has been trash... I mean. Is that really a mystery? If this bothered them, they could have just built a better car.
@GearGlazers
@GearGlazers 6 күн бұрын
Well...that's the point of the video lol, they did -Kyle
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