Both used warmers. Corvettes warmers were on a set off of tires off the car.
@kalmmonke5037 Жыл бұрын
haha i thought tire warming was a idea only in my mind
@saltyfloridaman7163 Жыл бұрын
@savagegeese what tire psi were they set to? 35psi as shown on the door panel or 24psi as advised for track use? And why lap 7? 7 laps in is obvious the Cup 2 R's traction is well into the decline stage. They last on average of 12-15 miles of hard use before getting spent
@Fastvoice Жыл бұрын
@@saltyfloridaman7163 One lap of the South Circuit has about 2 miles. So if you drive one warm up lap your 6th hot lap (or 7th lap overall on new tires) ends at about 12 miles of hard used tire life. So what are you exactly talking about?
@MLHunt Жыл бұрын
I'm not a motoring enthusiast but this channel helps me understand the passion people have for cars better than just about anything I've seen. Thank you guys.
@mduff94 Жыл бұрын
but you are a Bodie Island Lighthouse enthusiast!
@brandonchism6960 Жыл бұрын
I was going to wax poetic on the awesomeness of this video, however; I think this comment is a far better explanation of why these guys are loved by the car community. I don't own either of these cars, but I wanted a video that went this far into the details explaining the differences between the last bastions of NA, performance cars.
@farzana6676 Жыл бұрын
You have 69 comments on this channel. How are you not a car enthusiast 😅
@MLHunt Жыл бұрын
@@farzana6676 Lol I'd have never guessed a number nearly that large! I do *like* cars, I find them fun and interesting, but I don't think I have levels of knowledge and passion for driving to qualify as a real enthusiast.
@ko7305 Жыл бұрын
Warchild, refugee and legal immigrant here. kina virus released to fk up the elections...millions dead, billion+ with heart/organ issues...evil know no bounds, 100% intentionally released...just to get one man out of office, one man they could not buy/control. I have seen what communism will do to stay in or get in power. Anything! Chinese killed 30+ million of their own for power less than a century ago. It was a crazy conspiracy theory that FBI smoked Kennedy and now we know it is true. It was a conspiracy theory that kina virus was manmade but now we know it is true. MSM/Big Tech working overtime to censor/ban. This was intentionally released to fk up US election and for the Chinese to get protesters of Hong Kong streets because if Hong Kong goes so do commies in China. Win-win for commies and US dems....millions dead, billion+ with heart/organ issues. Godless people will always create hell.
@JosephDAndrea0121 Жыл бұрын
honestly shows you how confident GM and Porsche are to agree to having their car go head to head against their rival.
@Asiansxsymbol Жыл бұрын
Private cars, bro. 🤦🙄
@rightwingsafetysquad9872 Жыл бұрын
@@Asiansxsymbol Did you watch the video at all? Not only were the manufacturers involved, they sent teams to make sure their cars were in top performance.
@gregmize01 Жыл бұрын
@@rightwingsafetysquad9872 did you read his comment correctly at all?
@rightwingsafetysquad9872 Жыл бұрын
@@gregmize01 Yes. He's saying the cars are privately owned. They are not. They are test vehicles owned by the manufacturers. He either didn't watch the video or didn't pay attention. Apparently you didn't either.
@DoWorkNP Жыл бұрын
Where does the original commentator say they are privately owned? Your being extra for no reason. Settle down big boi.
@kevind2760 Жыл бұрын
So proud of GM. While the Ford GT is off-the-hook insane, I wish they would do something like the Corvette that is more attainable.
@joegotz1971 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately speed and handling is expensive. No way around it.
@hankwilliams5622 Жыл бұрын
Both murican junk.
@vaccuumrolls7243 Жыл бұрын
@@joegotz1971expensive is a Z06, unattainable is limited run and needing to be invited to buy one like the Ford GT. Nobody has a problem with it being expensive, but if you’re not allowed to buy one, there’s the issue.
@joegotz1971 Жыл бұрын
@@vaccuumrolls7243 eBay has ruined the car business and greed!
@briansalisbury576011 ай бұрын
@@vaccuumrolls7243 A Z06 relative to what you are receiving is a bargain. However a Stingray which in itself is an amazing car is affordable. The value you get in that car cannot be surpassed.
@Jay-tc9on Жыл бұрын
44 minutes of comparing two of the coolest sounding cars still made in 2023, I am in!
@ko7305 Жыл бұрын
Warchild, refugee and legal immigrant here. kina virus released to fk up the elections...millions dead, billion+ with heart/organ issues...evil know no bounds, 100% intentionally released...just to get one man out of office, one man they could not buy/control. I have seen what communism will do to stay in or get in power. Anything! Chinese killed 30+ million of their own for power less than a century ago. It was a crazy conspiracy theory that FBI smoked Kennedy and now we know it is true. It was a conspiracy theory that kina virus was manmade but now we know it is true. MSM/Big Tech working overtime to censor/ban. This was intentionally released to fk up US election and for the Chinese to get protesters of Hong Kong streets because if Hong Kong goes so do commies in China. Win-win for commies and US dems....millions dead, billion+ with heart/organ issues. Godless people will always create hell.
@993mike Жыл бұрын
Thank god we still have a few remaining high revving N/A sports cars offered for sale in an ever more neutered boosted small displace (or electric) motored world. The future may be electric, but these cars are like fine Swiss watchers compared to an iWatch - one is a coveted marvel of engineering, the other a disposable appliance
@justin________7477 Жыл бұрын
I don't get it, the Corvette sounds underwhelming for an 8,000+ rpm GM V8.
@Lhoguef1 Жыл бұрын
@@justin________7477 just wait till you see & hear in person👍
@justin________7477 Жыл бұрын
@@Lhoguef1 I wonder why there's a large discrepancy for this car between video and in-person for only this car, but not other GM V8's and other flat plane crank V8's?
@murfenator82 Жыл бұрын
The amount of coordination with manufacturers, and the test track, the incredible cinematography and drones and multiple angles of camera shots, the time editing and learning all of the fine details about both of these cars! Its all simply amazing! This is the kind of thing I would hope for someone like Motortrend to play on saturday mornings, but its so much better! Its a testament to y'alls dedication to cars and the car community. Thank you for the work you put into these videos for us to enjoy!
@Beer_Dad1975 Жыл бұрын
Unbelievably high production value - on any platform this would be remarkable - and here it is on KZbin, free for anyone to watch!
@AmericanProspector1776 Жыл бұрын
Free!! Thank you
@ChrisRogersTheAngryChef Жыл бұрын
I look at both of these cars and I can't help but feel a sense of pride. GM looks human again after making the Z06, a world beater from Bowling Green Kentucky. The Porsche on the other hand makes me feel like they made that car for me- the driver, no compromises, just pure speed and passion. Both companies made an emotional decision to make a car that was for us. I just feel like they were both thinking of me when they designed them. The past few years have been shit for all of us. Chevy and Porsche made things better, even if I can't afford either the world is better now that they are here. I haven't seen that in any industry in a long time.
@CaptianInternet Жыл бұрын
As a German who always laughed about the performance of US cars, allow me to pay tribute to the Corvette, who has come a long long way to compete with the top. And now is a full grown sports car that I am happy to love. Thank you, GM. You did very, very well.
@saltyfloridaman7163 Жыл бұрын
The corvette has been bullying Porsche 911s since the 1990 Corvette ZR1, which performed better than the flagship 911 Turbo
@downdemon2378 Жыл бұрын
@@saltyfloridaman7163 yes, but now even the base model is outrunning the 911.
@elijahprasad7884 Жыл бұрын
Corvettes have always been blasting Porchses, Ferraris, McLarens, Lamborghinis, Dodge Vipers, Ford GT's for a long time. What you mean just now?
@MonicaHolly143 Жыл бұрын
@@saltyfloridaman7163 911 turbo arent really track cars, and did u say "since" ? Zr1 cant do sht against gt2rs
@petrolo72 Жыл бұрын
Except for what you guys are forgetting, the turbo S will shit all over the best Corvette has in a quarter mile which is the only thing Corvette was known for in the past. And if they actually compare the GT3 RS which is Porsches top version of the NA motor GT3, it’ll shit on the Corvette in a road course
@andreww2927 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely killer content as usual guys. I gave you a little tip, because I was so grateful you compared two cars that are very obviously direct competitors, and I feel that most journalists would shy away from comparing these brands directly. Bravo!
@jackmehoff9909 Жыл бұрын
Cool
@warwolf0 Жыл бұрын
I think Most OEM's (think Ferrari) don't let their cars do comparisons
@jasonmurdoch9936 Жыл бұрын
Yeah because most journalists are little whiny beta male cry babies TFL oops didn't mean to say that but true
@Kamukix Жыл бұрын
Felt like I snuck into a movie, had to pay for my ticket afterwards haha. Absolutely fanTASTIC work as always.
@eliqirat18649 ай бұрын
For real, this is some next level stuff
@hamsterbrigade Жыл бұрын
I can't get over how you guys accomplish these kinds of things. I can't believe you guys take this much care and effort to bring us this kind of information. It's appreciated.
@superleggera1900 Жыл бұрын
I love that GM and Porsche are still carrying the torch for N/A powered supercars as so many other manufactures are ditching them. Corvette could've gone with a supercharged Lt5 and called it a day, but instead they made an all new flat plane crank V8 and still pushed more power than the old Lt4.
@Saabfather Жыл бұрын
Supercharged Gm's motors are absolutely tits but it would've made the z06 slower.
@pwally2714 Жыл бұрын
They made it for their GT3 IMSA race cars and slapped it in a passenger car 😂
@hectichive88911 ай бұрын
Same here man! It’s great to see. This is what makes these cars special to me
@kevmagill5163 Жыл бұрын
The camaraderie between the teams is the most wholesome thing ever. They have everything to be proud of with these two top-level machines. I admit I was thinking the Porsche was going to edge out the Z06... but I knew the Z06 was a true contender for once, no excuses. But when the final numbers were shown, I said, "Huh, will you look at that ". Well done, Porsche and Chevy. Well done Savage Geese. This has been a well spent 44 minutes. Awesome.
@thehumanoid6543 Жыл бұрын
How the hell did you manage to convince both chevy and porsche to come out for this?💀Great job . Been watching since the turbowski days. Good to see you evolve into a form that stays true to your origins and still do well in terms of viewership. Thankful as always. Please keep making these. As soon as I get a job, I will support them.
@JohnMatthew1 Жыл бұрын
You're kidding right? Chevy use Porsche and others as the baseline for the C8, and clearly were confident that the Z06 would tie or beat the GT3. I'm not surprised at all.
@saltyfloridaman7163 Жыл бұрын
@John Matthew every single race track shows the Z06 demolish the 911 GT3 as well, yet somehow this guy got slower in the Z06... he's multiple seconds slower on average compared to the average driver setting hotlaps
@JohnMatthew1 Жыл бұрын
@@saltyfloridaman7163 Well, they did spend the first 3m of the results talking about the environment and how they tried to make them equal each time, not sure if that changed the results. I would have loved to see base models of each compete, I'm tired of the youtubers who continually put the fully loaded Z07 on display. I've only found one real driver with a base Z06, which is what i'll order in a few years.
@LawrenceTimme Жыл бұрын
Real ogs remember when mark had hair
@shaunfogarty5744 Жыл бұрын
I think these are privately owned cars??
@jj481012 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love how the porsche and corvette teams came together for this video compared to other iconic manufacturers not even wanting to give a car at all. The fact that these teams were willing to put their money where their mouths are speaks volumes about the products they’ve created. Also, great job putting together this video. It was incredibly informative and entertaining at the same time. Your cinematography skills have improved tremendously over the years as well. Thank you for making this content for us all to enjoy!
@RepEvox Жыл бұрын
They aren't rivals though. I doubt there is significant overlap of people wanting to buy one or the other.
@anvilsvs Жыл бұрын
"not even wanting to give a car at all" That would be the "F" brand.
@byrondowler5917 Жыл бұрын
Great comment. Couldn't agree more.
@tomhatch2011 Жыл бұрын
@@RepEvox That's true, you either are a porsche man or a Vette man
@bostonaudi Жыл бұрын
Well done, I’m a P fan boy but really impressed with where Chevy has taken the Corvette. If anything, it will keep Porsche busy keeping their cars as awesome as ever. I think Chevy’s move to go mid engine was daring and it’s paid off in spades, it’s a helluva car.
@downdemon2378 Жыл бұрын
Respect.
@56seehorn Жыл бұрын
Should push them to lower production cost and price.
@kryptoknight.11 ай бұрын
Man up.
@kleinbottled79 Жыл бұрын
You guys win the internet for at least a month. You brought us the battle we've all wanted.
@savagegeese Жыл бұрын
You mean the day?
@kalmmonke5037 Жыл бұрын
@@savagegeese why is porsche so much higher off the ground . volvo replaced the weak heavy rear window with camera in some ev
@jjoohhhnn Жыл бұрын
@@savagegeese you got put on my suggested today, you might peak over the course of a week since your channel isn't as well known as Top Gear, but they haven't done this comparison yet.
@982spyder5 Жыл бұрын
@@savagegeese @kleinbottled79 No, he or she said "a month" and I agree. It is after all, a GT3 versus Z06 comparison. These are not insignificant icons that you're flogging! (Oh, and thanks for that!)
@perpetuallynovel Жыл бұрын
Amazing job guys! I know it's hard to make money on these kinds of comparison videos, but you really hit it out of the park. The fact that you're willing to take the risk on a production like this really says something about the channel's ethos and dedication to car enthusiasts. I loved the part showing the data of the cars going around the track where you could see how differently each car handled the corners from entry to exit. The two cars, despite being vastly different setups, laid down surprisingly close best laps and it indicates to me that they're both at the absolute limits of what four wheels and a naturally aspirated engine can do on a track in 2023.
@natramirez6716 Жыл бұрын
Gg
@ko7305 Жыл бұрын
Warchild, refugee and legal immigrant here. kina virus released to fk up the elections...millions dead, billion+ with heart/organ issues...evil know no bounds, 100% intentionally released...just to get one man out of office, one man they could not buy/control. I have seen what communism will do to stay in or get in power. Anything! Chinese killed 30+ million of their own for power less than a century ago. It was a crazy conspiracy theory that FBI smoked Kennedy and now we know it is true. It was a conspiracy theory that kina virus was manmade but now we know it is true. MSM/Big Tech working overtime to censor/ban. This was intentionally released to fk up US election and for the Chinese to get protesters of Hong Kong streets because if Hong Kong goes so do commies in China. Win-win for commies and US dems....millions dead, billion+ with heart/organ issues. Godless people will always create hell.
@matthewfeeney1303 Жыл бұрын
I cannot believe such high quality content was delivered at no cost to KZbin. Thanks Mark and Jack for these amazing videos.
@seafooddiablo5686 Жыл бұрын
The 2 most exciting cars out today! Both are pinnacle tier machines that are what dreams are made of. This vid earned a donation!
@The_Stanman Жыл бұрын
This is a true gift to car enthusiasts everywhere. Thank you for your hard work and passion on 2 of the most exciting cars on sale today.
@GERONIMO326 Жыл бұрын
One can only IMAGINE how capable the ZR1 will be. Almost unfathomable
@emekaiheanacho274 Жыл бұрын
Only more power
@tjstrongbone5373 Жыл бұрын
@@emekaiheanacho274 like you know
@laijiang6162 Жыл бұрын
There is GT3RS up there, and incmoing 992 GT2RS at the top.
@chawletsaowse7742 Жыл бұрын
@@laijiang6162 the new gt2rs after it comes out, if you can find a one on the secondary market... i doubt itll cost any less than 2-3x the cost of a z06. if the hype is enough, they may even go for 750k+
@laijiang6162 Жыл бұрын
@@chawletsaowse7742 You know the performance is not linearly increasing with price for almost any product right?
@CommodoreEU Жыл бұрын
I loved the onboards with Britt, it's spectacular to see how far a driver can push those cars while being on the absolute limit!
@brandonclark8736 Жыл бұрын
Seeing my two bros drive is one thing, and they are far better drivers than me, but seeing Britt(ney) drive is on an entirely different level.
@stephenschenider4007 Жыл бұрын
Cool avatar.
@hotdog9262 Жыл бұрын
looked like he didn`t push the gt3 as much as he did the vette
@hamsterbrigade Жыл бұрын
@@hotdog9262 i think he addressed that when he discussed the input differences. Swinging the wheel all of the place doesn't necessarily mean you're pushing the car more.
@BuildTheSandbox Жыл бұрын
The way he chopped the steering wheel through turns says everything. The corvette needs to be tamed!
@doggedlydetermined7022 Жыл бұрын
Two of the most impressive vehicles on sale today, and both NA! I’ll choose the GT3, just something about that flat 6 howl and engineering.
@petbull7038 Жыл бұрын
The camera angles on this video were incredible, thank you for making this. I'm a fan of German cars but I have say the zo6 seems like a tremendous value (even tho it's extremely expensive) and Porsche nickel and dime for everything. I haven't driven a vette in 15 years but they're raw and fun to drive.
@overthere5815 Жыл бұрын
You guys make the best car content on YT hands down. The production, editing, and of course content, is top tier.
@heimatliebe116 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for pitting some of the best cars in the world against each other! (The Lotus Emira is very close to my heart, too...) I have a deposit down on the C8 Z06 and while I am patiently waiting, I cannot get enough of my base manual 996 911. Long live gas-powered cars!
@jackholmes8105 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the gift❤
@Dara-ih6jq Жыл бұрын
I am a Porsche lover, through and through. I grew up, working on a 911 with my father. It’s my dream car. But the price for what you get with that corvette….. it’s hard to say anything bad about that Z06. Hell of a lot of car for a hell of a fair price compared to the competition. Price matters lol
@speedacademy Жыл бұрын
You guys have once again raised the bar for what can be accomplished by two dudes, with a ton of passion, and love for automobiles and content creation. I applaud you guys for all the effort that went into this I know no one truly will understand how much you put into this, but remember that most of us are extremely appreciative of it.
@savagegeese Жыл бұрын
Thank you. If it was my choice we would have a bigger crew. But ya know, gotta settle for two handsome models like us trying to make videos.
@JaZoN_XD Жыл бұрын
@@savagegeese Don't forget your AI secretaries
@gregrn779 Жыл бұрын
@@savagegeese please don’t put in the screeching high pitched sound at the end of the introduction. Whoever did this obviously wasn’t wearing earbuds or gives a crap about the listeners who are! My ears are still ringing! I stopped watching and unsubscribed out of caution in case the editor decided that it was a great idea and wanted to annoy everyone yet again.
@savagegeese Жыл бұрын
@@gregrn779 I edit on calibrated equipment the high pitched ring was under mixed -10db under. Out of 300,000 views you are the only complaint. Check your settings on your earbuds or audio settings on your device.
@johnsmith1474 Жыл бұрын
Speak for yourself, you are a cringy panderer.
@BariarnilforG Жыл бұрын
The level of in-depth video coverage you guys do is out of this world. Thank You🙏
@forrestsautoreviewsofficial Жыл бұрын
Loved the video guys!!
@zanechristiansen Жыл бұрын
there he is!
@THESLlCK Жыл бұрын
Hate all yours. Embarrassing brochure readings for ADHD laden manchildren. Worst car reviews of any platform to date.
@jlaw180 Жыл бұрын
I’ve never commented on KZbin before, but your videos are by far the best and most technical out there. I have to give credit where it is due. The amount of time and effort must have been tremendous. Keep up with the great work!
@jackholmes8105 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words.
@a.c.e.7568 Жыл бұрын
I like their video on engine break-in.
@fajitas4every1 Жыл бұрын
Mark, phenomenal job with the b-roll shots and the editing. Your presentation is wonderful. I know you say the editing is hard but it drives the passion by allowing you to creat, just want you to know it is definitely noticed. This is more informative and better presented than the magazine channels who likely have multiple editors to put things like this together, yet miss the detail that you provided.
@ko7305 Жыл бұрын
Warchild, refugee and legal immigrant here. kina virus released to fk up the elections...millions dead, billion+ with heart/organ issues...evil know no bounds, 100% intentionally released...just to get one man out of office, one man they could not buy/control. I have seen what communism will do to stay in or get in power. Anything! Chinese killed 30+ million of their own for power less than a century ago. It was a crazy conspiracy theory that FBI smoked Kennedy and now we know it is true. It was a conspiracy theory that kina virus was manmade but now we know it is true. MSM/Big Tech working overtime to censor/ban. This was intentionally released to fk up US election and for the Chinese to get protesters of Hong Kong streets because if Hong Kong goes so do commies in China. Win-win for commies and US dems....millions dead, billion+ with heart/organ issues. Godless people will always create hell.
@crowntug Жыл бұрын
So, so true.
@sheilajones20329 ай бұрын
Thankyou GM PORSCHE AUTOBAHN CC & Savagegeese for so generously sharing these fabulous automobiles and your resources!!! I've driven this track at speed many times and you made me feel just like i was right there in the car with you!! Best revue I've ever seen!!
@mlichstein1 Жыл бұрын
Man, it is fantastic to see the strides Jack has made as a presenter over the years. He makes it look so easy. And the production quality is off the charts! Amazing work, both of you!
@alfredooliva5175 Жыл бұрын
he actually sucks as a presenter. Mark is much more of a natural
@trenegade5441 Жыл бұрын
I could not have dreamed of a better comparison video, and to have it done so beautifully by Savagegeese... it just doesn't get any better. I have loved Porsche's and Corvettes since childhood, who hasn't right? But that C8 Corvette, and specifically the Z06, just makes me feel... I can't believe I'm saying this... but it makes me proud to be an American. I LOVE the GT3, but, it's a Porsche. It's almost "supposed" to be amazing. Then I look at the Z06, and what it is, and what it can do, and I'm like: F#$& YEAH!!!! I don't think I've EVER wanted something I absolutely do not need and really can't afford in my life. It is so freaking awe-inspiring. I just want to buy one to not only enjoy, but to thank Chevrolet for bringing it to life. Thank you, Mark and Jack, for showcasing your amazing abilities with yet another awesome video. If I ever do buy a Corvette, Chevrolet is going to owe a portion of that sale to your work. Bravo gentlemen. BRA-VO!!!!
@twoweeledsoto6072 Жыл бұрын
Among many things. One thing I really appreciate, is how fair you both are in your testing reviews. No bias, just facts. Where there is bias, you'd let us know. Great reviews all the time.
@tranc3porter Жыл бұрын
Nothing like a high revving NA motor. Love both cars. It's amazing how much smoother the GT3 lap looks compared to the Z06. The Z06 lap looked quite lively.
@S550-y4b Жыл бұрын
Z06 definitely takes more skill to drive fast. Gt3 makes it much easier to push the limit
@newmoon9463 Жыл бұрын
I thought the driver was going to need shoulder surgery after the laps in the Vette.
@firip255 Жыл бұрын
C8 is Midengine. Porsch is easy to Drive. C8 is more like a Ferrari tributo
@G82Watts Жыл бұрын
@@milojones5364bruh that's not even a gt3rs or gt2. Porsches are way more respected and coveted then the old man retirement fund corvette. A gt2rs would smoke u in a straight line and on the track. A turbo s is made for straight line speed and would smoke u. Corvettes are a dime a dozen on the road. I've only seen 1 gt3 in my life. Corvettes are a poor man's sports car 😂 interior wise is night and day too
@olivergrizzly63468 ай бұрын
@@G82WattsI would hope a Turbo S and GT2 would gap a Z06 considering the price difference, but in a straight line, the ERay would gap both. Pretty embarrassing when the ERay is $200k or $400k less.
@nunnarij Жыл бұрын
Had to watch this video again and again and it is fantastic. A true and fair comparison with a minimum of bias. Chevy and Porsche teams were engaged and gave it their best efforts. The GT3 is a tremendously capable track focused car. The Z06 is a tremendously capable track car that is fun to drive as a grand tourer. Amazing that the Z06 can have all the human creature comforts with head turning looks and match or outperform the world's best designed track focused cars. Congratulations to team Corvette engineers, they accomplished what few have ever been able to do.
@sean70729 Жыл бұрын
Huge facts.
@sonicmoj1 Жыл бұрын
@GSTKING Is the GT3 a WAAAAAY better daily driver on the roads than the Z06?????
@Mandolin1944 Жыл бұрын
@GSTKING Get some "Preparation H" for your butt hurt Porsche fanboy. 😂🤣😂 The cold hard FACTS are on all tracks, except maybe a go-cart track, and on the street also the Corvette "Z07" is a faster car, a better all around and more practical daily driver, with WAY MORE driver and comfort features and it STILL costs $100K less than the 911 GT3. You lose all all counts. This video has the FACTS & PROOF and you have your BIASED OPINIONS.
@memphisviking9838 Жыл бұрын
@GSTKING biased dude calls unbiased video biased. 🤣
@memphisviking9838 Жыл бұрын
@GSTKING "The GT# is WAAAAY better." The lap time says you're wrong.
@chanmanthegreat1429 Жыл бұрын
I am grateful to be able to live vicariously through these videos. I unfortunately will probably never own one of these amazing cars, but I can at least get to appreciate the beauty through the internet.
@PRS-dk4mz Жыл бұрын
Congratulations on an epic review and comparison. I’ve been a fan of this channel from day one. Through its growth and evolution, you guys had never ceased to amaze me. As a diehard car enthusiast, I’m just so grateful that this channel exist. Bravo!
@KubuśpuchatekTVN Жыл бұрын
Scott Turbowski fan?
@Whomecouldntb3 Жыл бұрын
First of all magnificent production. You guys' videos always add a documentary type style to reviewing cars. It makes it feel like an episode from TV. Second that Z06 engine noise is so crazy.
@razvandavid1510 Жыл бұрын
Z06 sounds like a Ferrari 360 CS, which I absolutely adore.
@Dowlphin Жыл бұрын
There could have been more external sound demo, and as for the Z06, I guess the fake engine noise cannot be turned off, so that's a turn-off. Hard to compare excitement level here when one is faking it.
@ianedmonds9191 Жыл бұрын
@@Dowlphin Always THE BEST production values on KZbin by a huge margin. It has always been so. Amazing head to head. I'd still take the Porsche. Keep keeping on. Luv and Peace.
@ronretired282 Жыл бұрын
@@Dowlphin I think he made an error concerning the sound in the ZO6. It is not fake at all. The chief engineer of Chevy explained the muffler tips are shaped like a reverse megaphone. This arrangement has the benefit of sending the sound forward to the cabin.
@Dowlphin Жыл бұрын
@@ronretired282 Uhm... reverse megaphone? You need to expel the exhaust cases, so you cannot reflect sound pressure forward there. Look at them at 9:44. And that wouldn't mean they're satisfied with the sound. Jack specifically said they're using ASD to remove unwanted frequencies and fake engine noise to add some others, while showing the center speaker between the seats.
@LeeXRV Жыл бұрын
Amazing video chaps, brilliantly filmed and love, love, love the technical discussion and graphics. This really sets your videos aside from other reviews of these cars. Brilliant, thanks!
@yentsch Жыл бұрын
Amazing video gents! It is awesome that both manufacturers made this experience happen - these are two tremendous automobiles.
@Parker53151 Жыл бұрын
Beyond awesome, guys. Magnificent production. This is what automotive journalism used to be. Kudos.
@andoletube Жыл бұрын
Actually, this is better than it used to be.
@ericgalen10 ай бұрын
I really appreciate this video, and perhaps most of all the comraderie between the Porsche and GM teams, which seems unexpected but really inspiring. I owned a C7 Z06, which was great, but I ordered the C8 Z06 convertible 18 months before it was availalbe, and I picked it up from the dealer last summer. The new Z06 is the best sports car i've ever owned, and I absolutely love it. I drove it 700 miles from Alabama to Miami when I purchased it over 2 days, and it was comfortable, fast, and smooth. More comfortable than I would have expected. Once you hit 500 miles and the rev limiter lifts, that engine is absolute magic. It's really hard to believe when you're driving it that it's an American car - it really drives, sounds, and performs like an exotic. I drove it back to back with my friend's 488 Spyder, and I preferred the Z06 in terms of sound, feel, interior, and tech. I still love the Ferrari body lines just a little better, but all in all I would take the Z06 over the 488 or a Huracan or a GT3 if I'm spending my own money. ALSO - it's more practical than I expected with the frunk and trunk - I can get two carry-ons the back and another and a backpack in the front. Add the Wi-Fi, heated/AC seats, carbon fiber all over the interior (I got the 3LZ trim), etc. - it simply can't be beat unless you're ok spending $300K or more.
@shahulhusman Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Im fortunate enough to have both of these on my list and have been waiting for a review on these. I love the more serious car reviews and tech than the usual KZbinr car reviews with fake launch laughing etc.
@shahulhusman Жыл бұрын
Crap.. Watched this a couple times and now I'm torn.. This is going to make me sound like a giant douche but I have a 13 Nissan gtr (stock) as a daily driver (and a buick tourx wagon which is my favorite car outside Mercedes wagons ) .. wet and or cold track days. I love manuals but hated the 991.1 manual 7speed which was awful (and if Gt3 it'd be manual). So don't need pdk and cold wet track days aren't an issue for rear engine rwd
@shahulhusman Жыл бұрын
Nevermind.. Goddam those 992 Gt3 manuals are a lot
@jesserhodes7430 Жыл бұрын
I've been a porche fan since childhood and the gt3 tops my list of dream cars. That said, I break my neck everytime i see a new corvette on the road, the presence of the car is amazing. the corvette being half the price, American made, and the pinical of American engineering makes me second guess my dream garage set up.
@bvoyelr Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the Corvette is staggeringly recognizable. Costs quite a bit of visibility, but hopefully it's worth it!
@rhollyday Жыл бұрын
My wife wows at every C8, but she didn't even notice a rare mauve GT3 touring.
@TRX25EX Жыл бұрын
I drove both and by far GT3 better to me.... Z06 balance is just off and weight difference is noticeable + from inside the GT3 sounds better and there's more drama while Z06 you need to open roof or windows to enjoy most of it's sound, doesn't scream as good as GT3 oe 458 did for me
@craigthescott5074 Жыл бұрын
@@TRX25EX the Z06 is faster and sounds better to me. And a lot less money.
@TRX25EX Жыл бұрын
@@craigthescott5074 if you care about which is faster then you shouldn't be buying any lol, these are driving experience not 0-60 times, go buy a Tesla and it will destroy these 2 if you want that.... As for sound better in Z06 that's big BS only KZbin videos will tell you, the fact that Z06 uses noise cancelling tech to improve the sound inside and get rid of unwanted noise it shows why GT3 sound better and more natural, what matters to driver is interior sound and GT3 is simply better, it have more character more noises more intake sound than Z06...... Infact i owned 458 which have similar engine to Z06 but higher RPM yet I still pick GT3 flat 6 over it...... If you want even crazier sound experience go try GT4RS and you will forget about every other car you can buy today (apart of hypercars), another example is GT2RS on KZbin easily everyone will say GT3 sound better but when driving it I will pick GT2RS over GT3 sound anyday..... Some sounds these car produce can't be recorded or heard in these videos, GT4RS have that crazy intake sound even at 2000RPM that I couldn't hear it after recording with my phone but in person damn it's addictive!!!
@sebastianpujo7266 Жыл бұрын
Eyes closed...I' d take the Corvette! Excellent video!!!👏
@cristianjimenez3657 Жыл бұрын
This is some high end entertainment production quality. Thanks for taking the time to showcase these two awesome vehicles.
@jfjaksgf Жыл бұрын
THIS is the video we have all been waiting for. A million thanks for creating such a masterful comparison of these two incredible cars. I especially respect how you guys were able to bring the engineering talent together from both teams and then have a true pro level expert driver wring them out like never before in any other comparison. A new benchmark has been created through your efforts. Congratulations and thank you!!!
@alancychoy Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video. I’m so happy that the Porsche and Corvette team chose your channel to do this head to head - this is for the true car enthusiast that appreciates instead of diss other people’s vehicles
@flsupraguy Жыл бұрын
Amazing! I'm still baffled why this channel doesn't have millions of subs.
@tier1detailing Жыл бұрын
Probably cause it sounds like a Nat Geo channel for rabid geese
@rhollyday Жыл бұрын
Bible: Swine dis pearls
@Dowlphin Жыл бұрын
Because they're not trying to do what the others are doing. Priorities are somewhat different.
@mtndewman1022 Жыл бұрын
cuz they tell it like it is
@hazardeur Жыл бұрын
because it's actually good
@hockeymann88 Жыл бұрын
I have to give GM credit, that engine is fantastic. Great content here. It's really enjoyable hearing the detailed comparison.
@3.2Carrera Жыл бұрын
Awesome comparison and so close. I own both Corvette and Porsche so it's super cool to see the top dogs in duke it out. The main thing is the rich history that Porsche has on the track from day one with no floundering, no wavering and no compromises. All of their special models from the beginning of their history are valued and highly cherished and Porsche still supports them. GM on the other hand is still a newcomer to this in comparison and my only reservation is will they be able to bang out the laps and compete with the proven quality that Porsche brings to the table. Porsche was winning races in the 1970's with those outstanding racing cars when Chevrolet barely phoned it in with their production Vette. But man did the Corvette engineering catch up fast in the last few decades. Really fast.
@matthewbrandon4876 Жыл бұрын
You guys keep raising the bar with each video! Stuff like this is the reason why you guys are the only car review channel I watch. Truly great stuff!
@nick_1O8 Жыл бұрын
10/10 guys. Absolutely the best 44 minutes of car enthusiast content in any recent memory. You guys have vision and it shows, incredible.
@thegenius46m Жыл бұрын
Excellent review! You guys are easily the best car review channel out right now with the attention to detail and exposing the actual driving characteristics that the cars you review are capable of. Love it and keep it up!
@hassan_codes Жыл бұрын
This is just too good for KZbin. We don't deserve this masterpiece of a production 😭
@bitmen1296 Жыл бұрын
Mad respect to the Porsche and Corvette teams and everyone else that made this possible. Mark, Jack, you guys are the best. Thank you for your dedication to quality content.
@al_in_philly5832Ай бұрын
You guys produce one of the best car review programs available anywhere. This was, quite simply, the best show you've done. That's saying quite a lot!
@heathergreylive Жыл бұрын
The opening sequence featured some stunning cinematography. The shot of the Corvette sliding sideways was very reminiscent of an iconic Top Gear scene with an R8 and a 911 if I recall correctly. Masterfully done, y'all.
@mastoslayerica Жыл бұрын
Great work guys. What was the dynamic for the interaction between the vette and porsche squads? Friendly competition? Some humor? Or businesslike ? Been watching you guys since the 40 minute long E92M3 video
@jackholmes8105 Жыл бұрын
Good natured, friendly competition. Both groups had a great sense of humor tbh. We have the privilege of working with a lot of groups now and TBH they are both my favorites.
@VS666 Жыл бұрын
probably the only video in years i watched all the way through without stopping or even taking my eyes off the screen. absolutely incredible. i sent this video to my old boss who i assume goes to autobahn frequently in his 944 race car even though its been 12 years since i talked to him LOL
@devaannamalai Жыл бұрын
Great work Jack and Mark. You both bring the passion out for everyday drivers like us. Thank you!
@treborheminway3814 Жыл бұрын
Two tremendous cars. Two tremendous reviewers. Exceptional production. What a fun video to watch and enjoy. Thank you!
@alexb4030 Жыл бұрын
This level of quality and detail is pretty impressive for just a two man crew, keep up the good work!
@jefftrimm7806 Жыл бұрын
Tip of the hat to the Porsche and Corvette teams for helping to make this thoroughly enjoyable video possible, as well as Savageese. Their passion is uplifting.
@magicdevile Жыл бұрын
Awesome video guys, looks like you had as must a blast making it and telling the story as I did watching it. Thanks for keeping this up, your effort does not go unnoticed!
@ScottO84 Жыл бұрын
You guys have officially found and blown your niche wide open within KZbin. So much quality over absolute quantity, which is a rarity now. It's become simply incredible.... a true automotive pleasure to watch in so many regards. We cannot thank you enough. These cars have gotten so insanely good that it seems to be splitting hairs to find where one excels over the other, especially when they spend most of their time on the streets for a lot of buyers. And finally, thank you to GM and Porsche. Where some other high end car manufacturers have openly stated they don't want their cars being benchmarked and compared against one another for these videos, both of these companies were willing to step forward and show the best of what these platforms currently offer with nearly every controllable variable being held equal. It truly feels as if the lap times could have been multiple seconds apart and no one would really have lost. Two world class vehicles.
@rogerzheng571810 ай бұрын
Having Britt Casey Jr interview was the absolute best. He was able to break down all of the nuances of each car and that really helps us buyers see things through his lenses. We can make our buying decisions with his insight. Hope this style of video production is in all comparison videos. Thanks :)
@MrOddFox Жыл бұрын
The editing in SG videos is phenomenal. There’s nothing cut and layered this well on this platform.
@ganymede3141 Жыл бұрын
Jason Camisa on Hagerty?
@ianedmonds9191 Жыл бұрын
@@ganymede3141 I do enjoy his stuff too. Different vibe though. These guys are more technical and factual. Jason is an entertainer. Both excellent.
@ganymede3141 Жыл бұрын
@@ianedmonds9191 True dat, on both counts. 👍
@quikagc5 Жыл бұрын
I have a 992 GTS and a C6 ZR1. Had a 991.2 GT3. Having both a Corvette and a Porsche allows one to really appreciate the nuances and differences with the cars and corporate philosophies. Love the Porsche and Corvette teams got together to help make this video. Hope to get a C8 down the road but that weight concerns me and I love the relative analog feel of my C6 ZR1. A lot of steering input at the limit on that not quite round steering wheel in the Z06. Looks knife edge and tiring. Finally, this is the longest KZbin video I’ve ever watched beginning to end. Well done, gentlemen. Very well done.
@mrjulian5888 Жыл бұрын
謝謝!I like your videos.❤🎉😊
@williamkinn5959 Жыл бұрын
Loved this video, really interesting. The fact that the ZO6 is so competitive and made in the USA is great!
@jackholmes8105 Жыл бұрын
Im glad you enjoyed it
@schmeesmclaren1570 Жыл бұрын
MERICA!!! FK THE LITTLE SHIRT WEARING EU!
@papatom5161 Жыл бұрын
Wow, I think this was one of the best videos I’ve seen on KZbin. What a showcase, it was incredible to see the collaboration and friendly competition between the two OEMs. Truly amazing cars and it’s crazy to see how far we’ve come. Great video
@Tony-if3xt Жыл бұрын
I’ve been watching your channel for years. Y’all truly make reviewing cars an art form. From one car nut to another, thank you for the reviews!
@bliglum Жыл бұрын
The 911 vs Corvette rivalry has been going on for decades.. And wow, what progress they've both made!
@robb5828 Жыл бұрын
Forget about Porsche,they're in their own league.I'd rather see the Viper come back and rival the Corvette :(
@bliglum Жыл бұрын
@@robb5828 Viper was great
@MR0B0T0 Жыл бұрын
One of your best videos to date. Amazing to see the manufacturers getting involved. The logistics involved must have been insane. Thanks for making it happen.
@LeeXRV Жыл бұрын
Also damn, I love the GT3 and it's engine but the Corvette sounds spectacular, I also think the Z06 looks fantastic.
@patatr49439 ай бұрын
ZO6 looks like a knock off ferrari 😂
@pascutia Жыл бұрын
Amazing jobs guys!! It’d be so tough choosing between these two. I would probably take a manual GT3, but if I couldn’t have that I’d have the Z06 over the GT3 PDK. That Z06 engine is absolutely incredible. Edit: Just got to the timed lap portion. You guys genuinely have better content that what Motor Trend was putting out in its heyday. Everything that I’d want to know about these cars is covered beautifully here.
@vipermoon_ Жыл бұрын
The quality!!! Rivals C&D Lightning Lap in terms of manufacturer support and track analysis, except way more focused obviously. Thanks to you guys and the manufacturers!
@evanescent03117 ай бұрын
I have a Z06 and I’d like nothing more than get a GT3 to complement it in my garage… both incredible machines for sure.
@petew4939 Жыл бұрын
Great job putting this together guys! Fantastic exposition of two engineering masterpieces. Much respect to both OEMs for standing toe-toe.
@Fearlys Жыл бұрын
Many thanks to you, your team, Porsche team, and GM team. Congrats to us all car enthusiasts, we're all winners and it feels like these two cars are examples of cars where true passion and modern tech meet.
@randallsmith7885 Жыл бұрын
Possibly the best Savage Geese video ever produced! Your quality, creativity and entertainment value continues to grow. Congratulations!
@alex.simantiras Жыл бұрын
The amount of work contributed in this video is unimaginable. Thank you guys for making it happen!🎉
@Khemic Жыл бұрын
I don’t comment much on videos, but felt I had to let you guys know this is exceptional content in every way. Thank you.
@NoLimitBowen6 ай бұрын
I know I’m late to the party but this is truly my favorite video you guys have ever released. It brings me an overwhelming sense of happiness that cars like this can still exist in today’s world to inspire people like myself to work harder in the hopes of obtaining them. The production quality and the depth to the video was absolutely top notch, and I cannot thank you guys enough for doing what you do! Also huge shoutout to the guys from GM and Porsche for not only showing such camaraderie, but also for continuing to build cars like these for people like us 🙏🏻
@computercrack Жыл бұрын
Insane review! Congrats to the Corvette winning, both are insanely good cars! To think the GT3 has basically the same lap time with 200hp less is crazy. Thanks for the work savage!
@markw9512 Жыл бұрын
Porsche normally underrates their horsepower by a large number. Stock the GT3s dyno around 500 at the wheels
@saeed5853 Жыл бұрын
@@markw9512 plus the weight difference .. weight to power ratio is what we should measure here
@markw9512 Жыл бұрын
@@saeed5853 Yeah, good point.
@computercrack Жыл бұрын
@@saeed5853 care to calculate? I'm too lazy XD
@momemory2996 Жыл бұрын
@@markw9512 Never actually seen a Porsche flat six NA doing 500 to the wheels on stock configuration. Care to share any link to dyno sheets? My 991.2 Manual is around 460 at the wheels and shoud be on the higher side given the expected lower transmission loss
@tb3780 Жыл бұрын
Warms my heart: "level of mutual respect between these teams..." That's the way it should be in this little corner of the automotive world. Hope to see this rivalry and tradition continue another 30 or 40 years
@scottprintup1035 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for probably the most objective car comparison I've ever seen or read. Awesome work savage geese, you guys rock!
@jeffberg9522 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. A recommendation is to do the video as sold price, not MSRP because it’s misleading. The admin price markups were briefly mentioned but are a key factor. In SoCal you can more easily get a C8 at MSRP and maybe $10k- $25k over for a floor model that is needed ASAP. Porsche on the other hand has dealerships that screw over its clients with 150k-200k+ over (pricing as of yesterday, 4/22/2023) at local shady dealerships like Porsche San Diego or Porsche Carlsbad. So a $175k C8 Z08 v. a $375k+ 992 GT3. It’s time for Porsche to actually solve the dealership problem.
@michaeldichael9978 Жыл бұрын
Huge shoutout to Porsche NA and GM teams for letting this happen💪
@Whitecampervan2010 Жыл бұрын
Funny! The Corvette is the clear 100% hands down winner as to what it is, a car,,,, a production street legal, car. The corvette is a car that does everything better at the same time. People will always undercut the corvette because of what chevy has always done, beat competition at their own game for far less money. The best part, the cherry on top! is that ya don't need a trailer to drive the Corvette home after beating on it all day. Corvette on the track Cadillac on the highway. Truly a king among kings on rubber tires.
@pedrowhite911 Жыл бұрын
Wow!! What a comparison video!😳💯. The two of you have just set a new standard and benchmark for the industry on comparison videos! Absolutely epic! Looking forward to more videos like this one.🎉
@insasian682 Жыл бұрын
Savagegeese will always be my choice when looking for top notch production quality, car knowledge, and passion. Keep it up!
@stevetheodore_specialtycars Жыл бұрын
It absolutely bothers me that Savage Geese only has 652,000 subscribers at the time of this writing where other far less deserving channels have a much larger audience. I think the content being delivered here is the highest possible quality, and these guys deserve so much more. Do your part to share their content and try to boost their subscriber-ship! This was a very special video, and I thoroughly enjoyed it. As a lover of both marques, it was very satisfying to see how they compared and how differently they went about their business to achieve nearly identical lap-times on the Autobahn Country Club track. Bravo!
@jackholmes8105 Жыл бұрын
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@motomarmot654427 күн бұрын
They're too technical for fan boys. I've talked to some car enthusiasts who have no clue who they are but they know Doug Demuro. It's hilarious. S.G. are for technical car enthusiasts.
@stevetheodore_specialtycars27 күн бұрын
@@motomarmot6544 I suspect you're onto something there. Well, glad they have at least 769k subscribers now, and growing!
@Rice_Cake_ Жыл бұрын
Absolutely amazing machines. Very nice to see a long format video, especially for such significant cars. I'd love to own one of these someday, hopefully my Z06 order gets fulfilled before it goes out of production!! I really appreciated the over-the-shoulder cam for the lap times, seeing the amount of work he did with his hands was quite telling.
@charlessands7649 Жыл бұрын
Love the approach to this video. It’s not about competition but a celebration of what is possible.