"The Cougar Epidemic" - Young Men Dating Older Women || Shoe0nHead React

[@YaredZeller]

" I just aged by 500 years." Well, boys, say goodbye to hagmaxxing, we are now bansheemaxxing

[@elsensei666]

NBAJHAHHAHA THESE TERMS JUST KEEP GETTING FUNNIER

[@BlooMonkiMan]

seriously, wtf is up with 4chan and this maxxing stuff?

[@Shockguey]

@@BlooMonkiMan It comes from the /r9k/ board, and it's an offshoot of Min-Maxing. The Robot 9000 board was just a board that m00t (creator) made as an experimental widget/feature rollout. After a while the equivalent of 4chan's homeless moved in, and it became the de-facto incel board until the terms expanded into the wider internet. The general point of -maxxing is that they genuinely feel they have to overcompensate for their, well, ugliness. So dating an older woman lowers the standard they have to live up to. That was the original "purpose" I suppose. Nowadays these Zoomers are clearly obsessing over incest content.

[@minitntman1236]

​@@BlooMonkiMan Indeed it comes from min-maxing. For when you play rpg games, people Ie. Aim to minimise Agility to Maximise Strength, because Status points for the character is limited, so you cannot have everything eg, 10/10 strength, 10/10 charm, 10/10 intelligence and etc. So if you got Min: Looks Then you got Maxing: _____ (Gym/Muscle, Money, etc) But then led to the obvious language change where it means aiming for something. Thus Hagmaxing.

[@Flesh_Wizard]

​@@BlooMonkiManit came from minmaxxing but -maxxing is now used as a suffix meaning "maximising"

[@Sacaed13]

That moment when Alana realized that Shoe-Senpai noticed her hahaha!

[@trethebay1235]

Dude I need a time stamp

[@TheObservingConstalation]

10:58 ​@@trethebay1235

[@shaoronmd]

11:00 not just alana, but other vtubers as well

[@patrikjakobsen2142]

She noticed that a few month time ago. Shoe literally congratulated Alana on her 100k subs YT trophy or whatever its called

[@Mihaugoku]

shoe has commented on her videos before

[@AIC_onyt]

my dad was literally joking about this "you are a young guy in his 20s, just become some older womens boytoy lol" My dad knew hagmaxxing before all of you

[@elsensei666]

"Well... Actually dad, there's this one woman than I met at a laundry store"

[@olotocolo]

Becasue it existed since forever, just like sugardaddies. 1/3 of girls in my high school had bf who were finishing college.

[@stacycarlton2056]

@@AIC_onyt there's a movie from the 80s that is basically this, dude falls in love with his mom's friend and when he graduates highschool they get together... actually a pretty decent movie one of those odd coming of age films that explored what it's like for a woman to go through a mid life crisis and a younger man finding his own identity...damn wish I could remember the name of the movie

[@kokuutou92]

Ya dad probably did it when he was young lol, wait actually is your mom much older than your dad?

[@AIC_onyt]

@@kokuutou92 nah, she is younger

[@Jumpyman_thegamerYT]

Younger women having been saying they want older men for ages now, so I don’t understand why it’s somehow become a problem when men say they want an older woman. Double standards, honestly. Edit: The oldest woman I’d consider dating would be 29. For reference, I am 21. Obviously, I’d prefer to date a woman my own age, but in today’s dating market, that doesn’t seem all that possible.

[@wahhnopfp]

There's a double standard squared moment, actually. There's the other double standard that we are supposed to celebrate cougars, meanwhile heaven forbid a dude in his 30s dates a woman in her 20s.

[@Nihonguy]

Because the attention isnt on them

[@ELPapayapa]

The older woman => yaaaas slay Queen The older man => ewwww pervert old pdf Yeah double standard indeed

[@foxdemonviy8824]

Well you know what they say, "Rules for thee but not for me."

[@verspin]

Older men are more rich, they have more experience and have their lives figured out. As a man that's important. What do you realistically need an older woman for?

[@captc0ck5lap60]

In my 30s so I'm too old for Hagmaxxing. It'd just be called dating which is gross because I'm British and there's only horses and single mothers to choose from.

[@ehwick8175]

Wtf lol

[@The_WatchList]

Better British and a horse than Welsh and a sheep, right mate? 😂😂

[@skolkor]

Surely the horses can't be that bad?

[@captc0ck5lap60]

@@The_WatchList Neigh.

[@LaserAngel_e]

@@The_WatchList Beat me to it.

[@LazySnoopy1408]

I think it's less submissivness, that men are attracted to, and more motherly qualitys. Beeing kind, caring and wholesome amongst other things. The bossy ceo typ doesn't really give of that good mom feeling.

[@michajastrzebski4383]

or rather, partnership feeling. We have a boss already at work. We dont need another one at home tbh.

[@TechnoMinarchist]

Millennials don't exactly have much of that either though.

[@stacycarlton2056]

This right here 😂 I dated a woman in her mid 40s at my last job (I'm 27 now was 24 then) holly shit kinder, more respectful actively listened to me and cant lie i learned a few new moves messing with her 😅. It also helps that I've always been into older women 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@TechnoMinarchist]

@@stacycarlton2056 She would've been Gen X, not a Millennial. The oldest Millennials in 2021 were exactly 40.

[@LazySnoopy1408]

@@TechnoMinarchist That's why so many of them are single, and complaining on tiktok, that they can't find a man

[@darksamiri4304]

Younger women think a convo is listing every reason you red flag. While older women talk about every reason your a green flag.

[@haku7335]

I never actually dated. But i have spoken to both groups serveral times and this is fukkin real bro...

[@miceatah9359]

not at all lol

[@CB-lw7ty]

Depends on the older woman, there are plenty who are even pickier than younger woman because they are alot more established and secure in life that doing well in your 20s is seeing as basic to them and they still very much want you to be on that 6ft built level of guy too. The ones that want to point out how good you are will normally be the ones who want to mother you more than partner you.

[@xDyslexicRobotx]

I've seen this in my past relationship a lot. Not always, but it does happen.

[@jiiaga5017]

Ah a fellow Red Flag/Green Flag bro watcher

[@xenohans9364]

The one comment about "snack packs" clicked with me. Imagine being 20 and after sleeping with a 30+ year old woman. She baked something like cookies for the both of you. Sounds really nice. Or maybe I'm too food oriented.

[@blanetamez532]

If a woman baked for me I would fall so easily to be honest though 😂

[@steelheart538]

As they say, a way into a man's heart is through his stomach.

[@ЕвгенийПершин-е1ь]

Post-nut cookies?

[@ajakks6551]

The vtuber Lucahjin taked about this but for YT safety I'll keep it safe. Let's just say Lucahjin and I quote "Wants to be the type of mother you could blow massive "fluffs" in and still bake you cookies in the end" ...Brothers, I think I would have to give in at that point.

[@pisspoorplutocracy9055]

It's happened to me my buddy's ex wife kept trying to fuck me all the free food and booze I could ever want

[@TheAurgelmir]

"Women my age seem to be excited by the freshness and lack of bitterness that comes with dating someone younger" Which is exactly why guys who can pull younger women likes it too - but they get called predatory for doing it...

[@shadowmandeathstroke8232]

"lack of bitterness" I am only 24 and most men my age are very bitter and/or cynical

[@haku7335]

​@@shadowmandeathstroke8232 god pls dont let me become 24 i dont want to become bitter :(

[@shadowmandeathstroke8232]

@@haku7335 The main thing is the bills, which have gone up incredibly starting with Covid.

[@assdde-t8j]

​@@haku7335 I became 26 this year and it will happen to you toooooo

[@goldenhate6649]

Guys also do it because they want KIDS. You can’t have kids when you start dating someone whose 30+. Well you can, but that shit gets risky

[@Brave_SJ]

Ben Franklin was an absolute Chad. There's a story of him in France, he was pretty fat and a woman went up to him at a party and poked his stomach and said "Monsieur, if this belly were on a woman we would know what to think!" And Franklin just smirks at her and says "Mademoiselle, half an hour ago it was on a woman, and now what do you think?"

[@wolfbane7497]

Got'em

[@ReptillianStrike]

What was the woman implying?

[@Jinxonxanax]

bro outrizzed the french... I have nothing else to say.... he outrizzed the french !

[@Brave_SJ]

@@ReptillianStrike She thought he looked mpreggers

[@unknownguyindo4356]

​@@JinxonxanaxBro's the OG American Rizzler.

[@CyanideAndSeratonin]

I do not think zoomers wanna be dominated they want to be taken care of and loved… Alana is 1000% in point here. At least that’s me and EVERYONE else I know.

[@haku7335]

I want to like this twice

[@BlooMonkiMan]

both? both is good

[@CReeseMLP_YT]

Speaking as a Gen z Male age 25, Basically yes.

[@Chilling_pal_n01anad91ct]

When i was 16 I had a feeling that dating a woman over 30 meant that I'm more than I am. Also... Many other reasons.

[@hikikouri7254]

I want both.

[@BRUH-ne2zf]

22:53 Bossy is bad cause people already have a boss at work so coming home to another one would just be biblical hell where you get reminded of your errors all the time

[@goldenhate6649]

I want to come home to a friend that motivates me, not a slave driver.

[@ocarinaplaya]

I think most men want a woman who is capable of taking tasks off his list rather than add to it. Just as I'm sure women want a man who will relieve her stress rather than cause it.

[@shawnm1902]

Being aggressive and assertive are fundamentally masculine traits. Finding that "attractive" when you are a guy is, well, homosexual.

[@Map4ch3]

With this whole milf Hunting I'm reminded of my high school years. In my class we had the two sides of the espectrum, one guy was dating a girl 2 or 3 years younger while I on the other hand tried to hit on older women multiple times, there was this one time when one actually flirted back and from then on everyone called me the tomb raider

[@elsensei666]

THE TOMB RAIDER??? 🤣🤣

[@Map4ch3]

​@@elsensei666 yeah kinda that but in Spanish "profanador de tumbas"

[@Quadrolithium]

​​@@elsensei666 yeah, what do you call the opposite of it? Where rich older men date high school girls? Specially if they are after your crush? Womb raiders. If we don't like that rich guy: "Oh fuck that grandpa making a trust fund baby."

[@OhitsONnow]

LMAO you're a legend dude

[@ShurMaster]

I'm not a maxxer myself, but women my age aren't interested in dating me and are either already dating or going for older people so if I had to guess a lot of fellow Zers are dating up for a similar reason. Edit: edited

[@tio_john]

Exactly. It's either that or the KZbinr path.

[@stacycarlton2056]

Yep can confirm, older women actually notice I'm alive 😂 so f it I need the XP

[@winch2342]

I think you might have edited your comment

[@fu21fu]

It's not so much that we're attracted to "submissive women". We're attractive to confident and genuine woman. What we don't like is the girl boss who thinks they can control us by acting like a boss, manager, or a mother, rather than a partner in crime who wants to be and is our equal.

[@Shockguey]

The girlbosses have just as much confidence and genuineness, they just have an addition of abrasiveness. Edit: This guy claimed the girlbosses "proclaim to be in charge", I asked for examples and he couldn't provide any and instead resorted to basic Twitter adhoms.

[@zeriel9148]

@@Shockguey There's nothing "genuine" about being a girlboss. That's what makes it offputting. If you were genuinely in charge you wouldn't have to constantly and loudly tell everyone about it, or construct identities around it. You just would be in charge. That's why its so fake and cringey.

[@fu21fu]

@@Shockguey Girl bosses have confidence, yes. But it's misplaced confidence. It's that type of confidence that makes them as you said abrasive.

[@btfo420]

@@Shockgueyit's not the confidence, it's the obnoxious fact that they are loudly proclaiming to be in charge of everything and have that "no men will control me" mentality. That's just straight up horrible to deal with.

[@Shockguey]

@@zeriel9148 "you wouldn't have to constantly and loudly tell everyone about it" Provide examples.

[@oxishimaruxo]

Calling a 30yr old a "Hag" is wild to me, you didn't even hit Cougar range until you were like 40.

[@Tyler-kt6jr]

And vulture at 55

[@animefan3794]

It’s actually because if Vtubers believe it or not. - Japan’s bakeries and cafes have special seasonal pastries. - the ones for winter never get bought after Christmas (the 25th) - this lead to a cultural thing of calling single women over the age of 25 “Christmas Cakes”, because with how things are over there it becomes near impossible to date by that point. - fast forward to the Vtuber boom - Japanese Vtubers get a bunch of western fans who don’t get the context behind some women being called “Christmas Cakes” - Japanese Vtubers explain, and their western fans basically go “oh, so like the term hag?”

[@crawlingboy]

@@animefan3794 it is not even vtubers which are mostly japanese it has been a japanese term all the way back in the 90s and 2000s in the otaku vernacular

[@vvvnokk8309]

I think of the Dock Hag from The Misadventures of Flapjack when I hear “hag”

[@JohnDoe-on6ru]

That's not a cougar that's a leopard

[@Jaimethepanda]

Ben Franklin: “And that’s why I’m on the 100$ bill…”

[@joshuamourning6650]

Mr 100 dollar was a wild boy

[@matthewvonderporten5605]

The Ben Franklin thing isn't that surprising. Man, was the 1700 equivalent of Tony Stark only he didn't have a suit of armor.

[@dingusmcgee7590]

Now if only we had a portrait of Ben as a cuirassier.

[@sonofsons770]

See, when I tell people I like older women, I meant women who are 1-3 years older than me. Now they just gonna think I’m trying to rob the retirement home.

[@elsensei666]

HAHJAJAJAHAHA

[@themyster1ous01]

learning that Benjamin Franklin was an ass guy was not on the list of things I thought I'd learn from Shoe

[@jaidora]

I think the discovery or history channel mentioned Ben Franklin participating in discrete orgies. It was part of an untold US history program but I can’t remember exactly what year it came out or where I heard it first.

[@housewilma4904]

yeah its not taught in schools but benjiman franklin was a MASSIVE succesfull playboy like a precursor to hue hefner level success. despite being rotund white haired man immediatly after finishing any offical bussiness hed go look for new ladies to woo. and hed always get at least one every single time apparently every woman who talked to him was absolutely charmed. even when he traveled overseas to england and france for important deals hed go on a lady hunt. apparently his wife even knew about what he was doing and still didnt leave him he was just so damn good at words charm and bedtime actvitys. he was basically a real life prawn plot protagonist alongside being a legendary negatioator that helped america come to be.

[@the1necromancer]

That Time I Reincarnated With Max Charisma During a Country's Inception

[@BlooMonkiMan]

@@the1necromancer please god let this be real it would be so fucking funny

[@CArcherOwl]

@@BlooMonkiManit’s just Ben Franklin’s life story

[@joshuajackson4473]

So what you're saying is that, cheating aside and depending on your feelings of sleeping with multiple partners, more guys need to be charming like Benjamin Franklin

[@kendra_t]

@@joshuajackson4473 he was witty and confident

[@kovaxim]

Anne Hathaway looks even more like an overly attached girlfriend than Shoe ever did. She's the type that'll keep you tied up in her basement. God forbid you escape and she catches you, then it's goodbye sunlight. You'd be placed in the bunker that's underneath the basement. She gives off strong yandere vibes.

[@SilentFury-c6h]

Still would

[@canbersn1p3r]

would anne before and after reading this even more would

[@elsensei666]

Still would idc.

[@elsensei666]

Man, I'm starting to think this is a problem lol

[@darkdude1996ify]

Sign me tf up

[@OfficialREVENGEMusic]

So long as healthy boundaries are maintained, the younger of the two parties are educated on what redflags to look out for, and they're both of consenting age, I honestly don't see the problem. I don't care if you're milf or dilf hunting, so long as it doesn't end up abusive. If you have a taste for older or LEGAL younger people, it's not my place to bitch.

[@addsy3653]

I find 16 and 30 weird, but it's legal and I typically adopt the same principles. It's a very American and modern day internet-raised person take to have too much involvement with opinions on other people's relationships... (The reason I don't even bitch about the 16 thing, is simple. 1. It's 2 years younger than 18, yet to Americans (who don't know MOST of America is 16 for AOC) 16 is a baby, 18 is a full fledged adult... 2. The global average age of consent comes to roughly 16.3 I believe? Surely if most country's have an average of SIXTEEN, then for SOME REASON it makes sense that they all agreed that you can consent at that age. The part that makes me laugh is when I get called a pedo, my personal dating range is 20-30, I'm 25. I wouldn't date a 16 year old, not because she'd be a "child", that's a young woman. I wouldn't date them as I think the cultural differences would likely never align, not because "they're a child", but because of the vast culture shifts in 10 years.)

[@Himitsuuu]

As a man who spent lovely time with a 32yo being 22yo at the time i can confirm. Mature women are on average better in most ways

[@sexilatinoboi69]

Because theyre low maintenance and have no time to hoe around and know itll be harder the older they get so they want to setttle quick

[@kendra_t]

As 32-year-old woman, sadly, the only mature thing about me is my knees.

[@Himitsuuu]

@@kendra_t Don't worry. Find solace in the fact that it is coming for everyone's knees as well. 😄

[@lordcommissarspartan]

It's funny because Shoe is *literally* a mother

[@haku7335]

F a x

[@Flesh_Wizard]

She's the hag who got maxxed💀

[@chargedx5768]

she is older than her husband too

[@kiritotheabridgedgod4178]

The Internet did in fact, just assume she was eating good.

[@TAZORm8w4210s]

i thought she just ate too much 😂😂

[@ZetoTarken]

23:31 Listen Alana. I already got a boss. I don't need another boss. But it's less submissiveness and more, I'm looking for someone who can be a mom, to our kids. I don't need someone who is no-nonsense tough all the time. I need someone who is kind and all those other motherly traits. If those traits tend to be more common on submissive women then okay.

[@3Zclap]

"mature" women are just better

[@gdochikakori5124]

Gotta second this

[@usernamealreadytaken9330]

Of all languages you chose to speak fact

[@Snowflakecats]

Agreed

[@Jumpyman_thegamerYT]

Based

[@Scruffy72]

Benjamin Franklin was right

[@spidiccus8561]

I'm 22 and my gf is 31, am I one of these tiktok creatures? I just love her, genuinely, and I'm not like fetishizing the age gap

[@creatorsfreedom6734]

yesss

[@Nihonguy]

According to the Internet youre a pedo, turn yourself in my friend its over lol

[@DStein22]

lmao

[@pinktrue5647]

Good for you honestly

[@QuanMalgol]

Bro is trying to plant a seed in a barren field. There's almost no eggs left in your woman, dude. What are you doing?

[@Eternalreminder]

French age of consent 15. Nyc age of consent 17. Know that meme where the dude is rubbing his hands while partway behind the tree? These women be doing nefarious deeds

[@BlooMonkiMan]

i was gonna say we should've let the Germans keep france but their age of consent is 14 so maybe we should've instead given both to the Soviets

[@CArcherOwl]

*insert Saitama “ok” face*

[@addsy3653]

@@BlooMonkiMan Most of America is 16, have fun on google. It's just a moronic thing where the internet is culturally American in the west so now even Europeans are starting to say "18+ adult" instead of "16+". Then people wonder why at 18-20 people act like babies in America, it's almost like you didn't treat a teenager differently than a 5 year old, and then randomly at 18 threw all these responsibilities at them along with the fucking fridge

[@WindupTerminus]

Regarding France, I'd be surprised if there isn't a part about it being higher if one person is in a position of power over the other, which a teacher would be considered to be.

[@kiritotheabridgedgod4178]

​​@@WindupTerminusdon't think France or any EU member state has that in law, but I know the UK has a two tiered system by which, you can consent at 16, you can't consent to someone 18 or older until you are 18 (Unless you were in a relationship prior to one party turning 18, where you were legally able to consent to eachother before.)

[@maxpeck7382]

Let's be clear, two people who are over 18 in a relationship are adults allowed to be in a relationship. This idea of "predator" women preying on 20 year old men or the other way round is idiotic. 20 is grown by society's standard and older women don't need to avoid 20 year old guys as if they were trying to prey upon some teenage High School kids. Age difference between fully grown adults doesn't factor, because adults are adults and are responsible for making their own choices and accountable for their consequences. Why is society treating 20 year old men in an adult relationship like they're 14 and being sexually abused by a predatory teacher? Be it 20 year old men or women they are adults and free to get into any relationship they please and older adults of whatever age are free to seek out relationship with them as they are both adults. We can't be moralistic and coddle people up to and beyond 20 years old or where does personal accountability ever start? There is no such thing as preying upon a 20 year old within a mutually agreed on relationship. How about people mind their own business and let consenting adults have whatever relationships they choose? Young men will choose an older confident woman for a stable communicative relationship rather than dealing with the emotional drama of being in a relationship with some young emotionally insecure Only Fans chick.

[@starcoloneldunadansonoft501]

Agreed.

[@DemBaddBonez]

FACTS!! 👀👀

[@CReeseMLP_YT]

Onlyfans is Trash, Fansly is better. Because O.F takes their money unfairly

[@badart3204]

As long as people aren’t cruising high schools for fresh 18 yo’s I would agree. The thing about the people that go super low right along the edge is that you know they’d go younger if they could which is what makes it icky

[@rabnadskubla8594]

My parents had an 8 1/2 year age gap. I agree with this statement.

[@thatHARVguy]

*checks Google for "unmarried women over the age of 25"* China: leftover women or leftover ladies Japan: Christmas cake North America: Leonardo DiCaprio's ex-girlfriends

[@fredmedrano6584]

I need some context on the japan one

[@thatHARVguy]

@@fredmedrano6584 In western cultures it's called fruit cake.

[@GetDougDimmadomed]

I lost my last shred of hope in my generation when someone called being a hetero man as having an “adult woman fetish”. I figured out that I’m much happier interacting with older people. The 50 year old dude working the lumber section at Home Depot, the 40 and 60 year old cashier ladies at the gas station, the older folks are super pleasant to be around. I would have no problem dating a good looking 40 year old woman. It’s not even about the financial stability, it’s the maturity factor.

[@bananaana1860]

Adult Gen Z here, and I second your opinion. I have met more pleasant 50+ year old people than anyone under 35 and that is a woman. I don't intentionally discriminate women, since I am one. But my god it's tiring to deal with all the internet BS in real life, having to worry about being called an -ist or a -phobe is annoying. Especially when I only bring up valid criticism about their cause. I have had disagreements with older people (especially when I was younger and super liberal), but none of them would call me a Nazi for having a different opinion. It's easier to just agree to disagree, but with people in my generation or younger millennials, they want you to change. And if you do change, they're still not happy. It's definitely much easier to hang out or even date people who are uninvolved with popular internet narratives. And young men shouldn't be criticized for dating older women, they call men pedos for dating LEGAL but younger women too. There is no winning. I've been with a guy 10 years older than me for 4 years now, I was the one initiating and pursuing the relationship as an adult. And yet some of the women he knows have called him a pedo. istg

[@vinnybee8745]

do you guys even hear yourselves? “a good looking 40 year old” lets see you at 40 💀

[@StarboyXL9]

@@bananaana1860 Jealous hags who didn't get picked.

[@kiritotheabridgedgod4178]

​@@vinnybee8745okay zoomer.

[@funnyman10912]

@@vinnybee8745 Well I mean...... Some people just age really well..... Hell some people even look better at 40.

[@realpunkfruit]

"hurr durr evil power dynamic" SHUT IT ALANA, I WANT AN OLDER WOMAN TO OWN ME

[@crawlingboy]

i can respect the honesty as long as you both are adults i see no issue

[@elsensei666]

YEAH, WHY IS IT SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND?

[@StarboyXL9]

Goddamn based

[@Akrilloth]

The screech Alana made when called out was amazing.

[@stephennelson4954]

That chatter with the A Minor joke, that shit was fire and I am completely stealing it for later.

[@MelRetro]

*Western Women never cease to baffle me*

[@dubuyajay9964]

"Modern" Western "women." Thank the SJW movement for ruining them.

[@Jumpyman_thegamerYT]

@@MelRetro Same

[@gundalfthelost1624]

As someone who has been married for almost a decade to a woman who is 9 years older than myself, I fully understand and support the love of "hagmaxxing" as it's now called. I got some weird looks and "huh" comments when we got together over a decade ago. Back then, dating older women was kinda taboo. But I just never cared for women younger/the same age as me. I prefer the calm attitude that comes with life experience.

[@bananaana1860]

As a younger woman with an older man, ANY woman who is against young men dating older women are just irrationally jealous and crazy. If I can date 10 years older, than my fellow *legal* Gen Z brothers can date older women. I'm enjoying to benefits of being the younger one, and it's amazing. An experience that shouldn't be gatekept

[@Jumpyman_thegamerYT]

Facts.

[@manxome65]

I think it’s weird how so many twitter warriors will defend the “empowerment” of women with only fans and sleeping around while censoring games and anime.

[@ssjwes572]

That broken/twisted logic is really what gets me. Defending "empowerment" but censoring entertainment. You don't have to try to explain it I already know their arguments and the real reasons they act this way..

[@elsensei666]

Its just a doble standard

[@ThisisKyle]

That's because it was never about empowerment it was always about subverting what is considered normal in society

[@o-mangaming5042]

Games and anime are competitors to the girls making money and getting free food off of their "empowerment." That's why they do it.

[@SpartanGoku]

Younger women want men with lots of money…. Older women want to have a real good time

[@Rystic]

The song Stacy's Mom is about hagmaxxing.

[@Ov3rRideHD]

Don't forget "American Pie"

[@OfficialREVENGEMusic]

Hot for teacher

[@inglouriousbastitch5834]

Stacy's mom has got it goin' on 🗣️🔥🔥

[@ghostzombies3252]

polycule- a more technical term for harem, except it's a more "equal" power dynamic as opposed to one person being the head of the relationship that is the best way I can describe it

[@tonyrobbins6714]

10:55 If you skip through, frame-by-frame, you can see the look of dread on Alana's face, and how it changes to panic once she recognizes her own thumbnail.

[@mayborneflower]

The best part is that Alana screeched while shoe was showing Kitsu and then she immediately saw herself.

[@thedavidleveraction1776]

Age differences (as long as everyone is an adult) isn't a problem as long as it's a genuine relationship and not just using each other like a commodity. I'm dating a woman half my age, but we have a relationship based on love and respect. She relies on my life experience for guidance, and I rely on her having fresh perspectives to rapidly changing aspects in society. We have a very large age gap, but we have common values and interests.

[@elsensei666]

Don't you just love it when 2 people are loving each other genuinely, consensually and are respectful towards each other? You are winning.

[@thedavidleveraction1776]

@@elsensei666 thanks. It takes a lot of patience because we grew up in such different times, but with a little understanding, we've managed to have a really good relationship.

[@johnarcher6150]

I'm liking this side arc of Alana being noticed by her senpai.

[@greenskull3384]

"As a woman, guys won't like you if you're too much of an a******."... And??? Are you trying to imply that being an a****** works for men, when we can basically get arrested and sent to jail for years for no reason? Genuinely confused here.

[@kiritotheabridgedgod4178]

I mean, judging by Shoe's "Women L's" video, a lot of younger women seem to go for genuinely toxic men. Not saying it's a good thing, not saying you should be one, just pointing out an observable reality.

[@greenskull3384]

@@kiritotheabridgedgod4178 yeah, but women aren't risking literally everything by being toxic.

[@kiritotheabridgedgod4178]

@@greenskull3384 depends on the type of toxicity. If they do something illegal, as long as it can be proven, they're still going to jail.

[@greenskull3384]

@@kiritotheabridgedgod4178 a woman can say that a man raped her and get him sentenced to six years in jail with no evidence, then say that she lied 3 years later, and face no legal repercussions whatsoever if she wants to.

[@kiritotheabridgedgod4178]

@@greenskull3384 in England if she's found to have lied in court, she would actually get sentenced to like, 4-5 years. It's just the American legal system that's scuffed on that one.

[@Castitalus]

28:14 shoutout to the chatter who said "She Pre-Ordered Him."

[@GodActio]

27:06 - Men do weigh their words, but from a different viewpoint, everything they say and do carries the threat of violence. Navigating and avoiding violent outcomes is how men weigh their words instinctually. That's why men tend to get explosively angry, they are saying, "Keep going, and this will be violent, you don't want violent, and I don't want violent!" It's an intimidation tactic like geese, by being big and lound, they can scare away a violent encounter. Moms inherently understand this, which is why they say "wait till your father gets home!" slightly threatening an inferred violence for unwanted actions.

[@DarkFrozenDepths]

The kicker about the screenshots of Shoe saying "senpai notices you" to all those VTubers... I have seen EVERY reaction video Shoe has shown for that split second...

[@FrostyMts]

I fucking hate the argument that we can’t afford babies. Like bruh the highest birth rate is when everyone was poor back then and there was a high infant mortality rate.

[@goldenlizard92]

You don't have to worry about losing everything when you have nothing. The problem is that while the impoverished have often used their offspring as free labor for much of history (and likely still do), those with means typically want their kids to succeed and carry on their legacy or family name. Thus, the middle class is now in a precarious position where they don't have the means to provide their children with a viable future, but are not impoverished enough to benefit financially (or otherwise) from having them.

[@absollum]

As someone who grew up poor, I'm not raising a kid while poor. I want my theoretical kids to have a better life than mine, and I currently can't provide that.

[@roudkaross]

About the president of france, it's taken out of context, they started their relationship way later, when they married he was 29y old

[@cantmossadtheassad9952]

Most people attack him with the age gap between him and his wife because he's a neoliberal globalist and most french citizens either despise him or at least don't like him, I don't get why though because it's easy enough to destroy him by bringing up his crappy presidency so there's no real reason to attack his marriage

[@BlooMonkiMan]

i had hoped they meant they first discovered they existed in person at the ages mentioned in the article

[@princeofgreece9054]

What I love about this is the quotes from the older women were like “we enjoy younger men because they aren’t as traumatized and less burdened by baggage” which is basically the exact same excuse older dudes use to date 18-24 year old women 😂

[@lostlothbrok7156]

Considering more divorces are happening, less people are happy, ya its not a surprise the dating pool is changing. Not my thing but hey make yourself happy

[@pmoney5218]

To me this is just another example of social media not being the real world or not a good example of what people really believe. According to Ipsos and Gallup 39% of Americans have dated or are dating some one ten years older. Men are 25% more likely to date some one younger while women are 14% as likely to date younger. In 64% of hetro relationships the man is older. Most Americans DON"T have a problem with age gap relationships and, believe it's acceptable for men and women to date some one 10-15 years younger 71% male 60% female. Every relationship demo has it's issue's and problems. But new studies have shown greater relationship satisfaction with greater commitment and trust among age-gap relationships then with those 1 to 3 years apart. Not every one ages at the same rate or has the same beliefs it's not uncommon to find 60 year old women with 50 year old men. To me it's no one's business what consenting adults are doing with each if people spent more time worrying about themselves and their own relationships the world wouldn't be as lonely.

[@istimagyar53]

22:51 Guys like women with a strong character, but there's a difference between "emotional yelly girl boss", and "cold stoic girl boss".

[@KebradesBois]

11:02 sounds like R2D2 when electrocuted...

[@xDyslexicRobotx]

Omg I didn't even realise 😂😂😂 It literally IS👏

[@colemcgrath7660]

Let's be honest on why this happened. Older women learned too late that feminism just makes men avoid them, and by the time they turn around, men their own age are going for younger girls.

[@rocky-my5ck]

Alana trying to hide her self was really cutesy funny

[@TrainingMacro]

26:00 it's not that men don't give a fuck because they are men, it's that they give a fuck because they are angry. It's not typical for (most) men to be mean to eachother. This is primarily because unnecessary hostility can lead to unnecessary violence and secondly because it's bad practice to make unnecessary enemies. So when a normal man loses that self control you get the behavior that they are infamous for.

[@SunTzu176]

Im 33 year old man, my girlfriend is 21. I did not pursue her, we met playing the Elder Scrolls online, eventually after 4 years of playing she asked me out. She also told me she was 28 at the time. It was only after we met several times did the truth come out. But hey, she's happy and as long as she's happy I'm happy. I love her dearly.

[@SMittal9279]

I hoped that Shoe would notice you, love your reactions by the way 😊😊😊

[@NiramBG]

Shoe has commented on Alana's reaction videos like over 6 month ago :D

[@elsensei666]

@@NiramBG Lets goooo

[@SMittal9279]

@@NiramBG I saw that comment as well ☺️

[@owlblocksdavid4955]

Apparently age of consent in France is 15. So Mrs. Prime Minister is legally not a groomer, even if I wouldn't have advised that marriage.

[@aqua_tan]

Alana got called out by shoe before GTA 6 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@fersuremaybek756]

alana giving us her professional take on this "hagmaxxing" lol

[@TheMatthew001]

"your mom doesn't want to dominate you, she's just your parent" speak for yourself on that one, had a single mother growing up and the way she managed that was by suppressing my personality and only not being mad at me when i was her definition of myself. when your only authority figure is your mom, some mothers will use that power dynamic to dominate their children to ensure there is no misbehavior.

[@Joshua-fz5zx]

Older women are masters of their craft. I cant recommend it enough.

[@miriamweller812]

Not so fun fact: biggest reason for dying by child birth in earlier days wasn't the birth itself, but being helped by doctors who had no clue about the problemativ bacteria in dead bodies then. So they went from a corpse right to a mother in labor and pretty much poisoned her that way and added to other problems like general malnutrition and problems with infections, what doesn't help. Got a lot better when someone got the idea to wash hands.

[@1Lordgore]

As a single millennial man I was gonna say to back off our dating pool, but you boys are picking out our mentally ill, traumatized and crazies. Go wild boys!

[@haku7335]

Bro wants to send genZ in as cannonfodder lmao And it works lol

[@CArcherOwl]

Challenge accepted

[@nercksrule]

​@@haku7335 Bro is a Sangheili sending Unggoy swarms against the UNSC lines. May your Great Journey be swift and everlasting.

[@ThelastofNazarick]

The children yearn for the beaches of Normandy.

[@OneManCast]

Epidemic implies a disease or something inherently negative. But we love older women in this house.

[@prismaticpaul]

if what alana said at 15:44 is really true, then i might as well give up lmao i just tend to be rather open about my experiences, needs or struggles because it feels much better compared to when i just kept everything to myself and withered away there was an older woman who understood and empathized with my struggles, and most importantly, even if she didn't understand where i was coming from at times, she would at least try to understand. I think that's what i'm looking for. I wonder if it's possible.

[@elihan9]

My parents were the opposite in authority types. My father was the mellow one, and my mom was a cross between Joe Peci and Madame Mao. However, because both of them worked, they had little tolerance for stupid bs.

[@haku7335]

My dads chill asf an my mom wants to be the authority. but noone cares lol. My dads the goat.

[@MageWarren]

"27 is the cap" Alana confirmed 26

[@crawlingboy]

As the saying goes "We Love Older Women"

[@haku7335]

We love non mentally ill women ❤

[@lordromanyx]

When women around my age are considered "hags" I realize that I'm getting old.

[@canbersn1p3r]

bruh the 30's are hitting different😭😭😭

[@applejackcarsparks8482]

Love the call out from shoe there was even one of Alana's vids in the blast of thumbnails

[@xkiri7484]

Let's be real, the "step on me mommy" archetype has always been a thing, from the beginning of humanity. It's just more accepted as a lifestyle, instead of a fetish like before. That's all

[@RookCity94]

That second reason is literally the reason I haven't been looking for a gf for over 7 years now, if she got pregnant, I couldn't afford a kid. I'm barely paying rent and saving for a mortgage, if I got a girl pregnant there would be no chance of paying for a home to raise them in.

[@BrahmaDBA]

I dated a woman 7 years my senior when I started Uni. She entered Uni at the same time as me because she worked as a pastry chef before entering Uni. It was one of the best relationship I ever had. She was mature, she was fun, and even though I was much younger I was never looked down upon, we had mutual respect and it was spicy when it needs to be. Sadly things wasn't meant to be and we broke up. All I am saying is, go look for your hag my dudes.

[@joshuajackson4473]

As someone shy 2 years of being 30, it feels like it's gonna feel weird if I hagmax because both my parents were raising me in their 40s. Idk if that's normal for people to get used to or something tho. Like I imagine with the right person it doesn't even really cross your mind much if at all

[@0Heeroyuy01]

i found out a girl from high school MARRIED and HAD KIDS with one of our high school history teachers who is 15 years older then her. when they meet as student and teacher they were 16 and 32.

[@johnstackhouse1706]

Ewww

[@0Heeroyuy01]

@@johnstackhouse1706 ya eww doesn't even begin to describe it

[@kugelblitzkrieg]

It’s absolutely socially acceptable (at least among women) for younger women to want to date older men, practically for the same reasons here. The amount of women that I know or see on dating apps that want to date older is insane.

[@haku7335]

Icl i think most of them just refuse to get a real job...

[@Jacqli-Rivoli]

Remember kids: It's not grooming or pedophilia if it's a woman doing it! 👍

[@JustinRay-qz9gy]

Older women appreciate your efforts more. Fucked up to call them hags though.

[@animefan3794]

It’s actually because if Vtubers believe it or not. - Japan’s bakeries and cafes have special seasonal pastries. - the ones for winter never get bought after Christmas (the 25th) - this lead to a cultural thing of calling single women over the age of 25 “Christmas Cakes”, because with how things are over there it becomes near impossible to date by that point. - fast forward to the Vtuber boom - Japanese Vtubers get a bunch of western fans who don’t get the context behind some women being called “Christmas Cakes” - Japanese Vtubers explain, and their western fans basically go “oh, so like the term hag?”

[@JustinRay-qz9gy]

@@animefan3794 I like Christmas cakes. They taste just as good after Christmas if you catch my drift.

[@supermathv3]

Nah, man your effort becomes the bare minimum. When they were younger they'd let ya hit it and quit it. Now you gotta earn it.

[@JustinRay-qz9gy]

@@supermathv3 that's false. You just like hoes. Nothing wrong with that.

[@JustinRay-qz9gy]

@@supermathv3 sounds like you just like easy women lol

[@switchgear100]

Just to add the thing with Macron and his wife. They first met when he was 15 and she was his teacher (she was early 40s) but they didn't start a relationship until almost 12ish years later when she got divorced.

[@johnstackhouse1706]

That's still twisted

[@BlackSunflower13]

People want what they want, just let them have it

[@bigred559]

So long as BOTH parties are consenting adults, there is nothing wrong with it. Let them have each other in peace.

[@elsensei666]

@@bigred559 The rephrasing we needed.

[@alexfielding7191]

Benjamin Franklin ran through at least half of the French women population.

[@Writer-Two]

Alana singing at 51:34 was funny

[@arthurbrandonnielsen]

There's a difference between being assertive and strong, and being bossy and prickish. It also knows no gender. The only difference is that toxic male bosses typically crumble when successfully challenged because no one backs them up. Toxic "girlbosses" on the other hand, can go on social media and get massive support from their fellow toxic feminists.

[@bryanmiller8604]

“Your mom doesn’t just want to dominate you as a mother, she’s just a parent right?” You obviously have never experienced growing up with a narcissistic mother as a parent, because this is absolutely is their intent, & not just as their child growing up, but well long into your adulthood, doing everything possible to cripple, & outright destroy your opportunities at your own individual independence, by any means at their disposal to do so. Especially in their interfering attempts of ruinations of friendships, & relationships for her own perceived personal gains. Narcissism knows no boundaries. Much less respects them!

[@Bloodycupcake54]

"i prefer younger men because they're naive and easier to manipulate, and are less wise to my tricks"

[@yeetteey7445]

As a gen z guy i blame mommy asmr for thus

[@JayTohab]

If they didn't want us to want it, they shouldn't have been so good at it

[@LunaAzzurro]

I like the way Shoe says "Vee-Toooo-Bur" 😂

[@bv332fgh]

6:00 Anytime I see Shoe now, my milf radar starts going off.

[@DobleWhiteAndStabley]

34:00 no citation needed unfortunately. It doesn't matter if it is true or not. The fact that virginity, or "hoeness" is in doubt or in flux, automatically puts a guy in a position to assume that all women are hoes, until proven otherwise. For his own safety. That is the consequences of modern day feminism and its partially our fault for letting it happen. Mostly the girl's fault, or at least the ones who participated in hoe culture. Now non yall get the benifit of the doubt.

[@unsertainley]

Happy 30th Birthday Alana

[@melaninking199]

Wow Alana is 6 years older than me👀

[@DanielJ_Mart]

Alana getting called out is hilarious! Lol

[@McGriddy51095]

alana out here smugmaxxing

[@williamkimball4901]

Contentious. That's the word. Love the White Orchard music in the background at the end. Are you playing Witcher 3?

[@Allan_aka_RocKITEman]

At MY AGE, _most Cougars_ are still YOUNGER than ME...🤭 *EDIT→* I do not think I ever heard the term _"hagmaxxing"_ before watching this video. The fact I am a _Boomer_ may be at least partly to blame for this...😊

[@haku7335]

Goat

[@GunthersLoyalSoldier1307]

How did Assassin’s Creed go from accurately portraying Ben Franklin as a MILF Hunter to making a black samurai in feudal Japan?

[@dakkysmurf]

I think men don’t like assertive women because the social dynamic is too different to function. Between men, being overly assertive always carries the implication of potential violence. Between the sexes, (at least in the west) violence from men against women is seen as much more detestable. Which it rightly should, we are much larger and stronger than most women. This dynamic also turns most men off of assertive women because without a potential implication for physical violence, women generally have more protections with much less “investment.”