The Women DESTROYING Star Wars || Sydney Watson React

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[@hewhoshallnotbenamed5168]

Any other person that has failed as often as Kathleen Kennedy has would have been ousted from their position LONG AGO.

[@0cedced]

she 100% has blackmail on someone at disney no other way she's keeping the job otherwise

[@Enchie]

She probably has the leftover blackmail Epstein had.

[@sik3xploit]

@@0cedced Or... OR! Even people at Disney could just be as much of ideological whackjobs. I know that's something hard for anyone to comprehend because we are too used to the idea of companies prefering "profit" over "economic ruin".

[@housewilma4904]

@@0cedced she used to literally just be the girl who brough the directors coffe and "somehow" ended in controll of all those directors property must of been some great "coffe"

[@jwt6577]

Not in Hollywood.

[@dhunter1133]

R2-D2 is NOT a lesbian. He sticks his appendage in every socket he can find - even the trash compactor on the Death Star - spins it around, and makes magic happen. If that isn't a gigachad, I don't know what is.

[@Kiwi-Araga]

Don't forget that he speaks binary.

[@rgama1173]

the deathstar, seen R2-D2 flying away: "nooooo, come back!!!"

[@emikochan13]

lesbians also use robotic appendages

[@Kold-Kanadian]

yeah! he's Gay! not Lesbian!

[@dr.bright6272]

He's rated E for everyone

[@wahhnopfp]

"This show isn't for you! Now watch it or else." Every damn time.

[@Just_a_Piano_]

I skipped to 33 seconds in and I instantly knew exactly why this person acts the way she does. Just look at her face on that frame. You can tell someone is a horrible person just by the way they look more than 80% of the time

[@irontwist1647]

They said the exact same line when showing their iteration of doctor who... 8 episodes repeatedly trashing a near hundred year old show 😢

[@BarioIDL]

this goes against brand loyalty, disney should know better

[@thepunished8042]

I about fell out of my chair when they got to the "They didn't want George Lucas there". They don't want to make their own culture they just want to steal ours...

[@lyravain6304]

"If you don't like our politiics, don't watch our show! Wait, where're you going, come back, YOU BIGOT!" ~Modern Audience Panderers

[@zg3342]

The gold bikini thing was something forced on her by a bad guy that she killed. Forcing her into sexual slavery and little clothing was meant to be a negative thing.

[@aaronburdon221]

She definitely filled that bikini out though. Lawd have mercy.

[@TheLichruler]

And first chance she got, Leia strangled Jabba to death *with her own chains*

[@Majima_Nowhere]

Actually jabba's a good guy now according to Outlaws, he saved the rebels at the request of some nobody that he would never realistically owe anything to.

[@johnj.spurgin7037]

Which is hilarious @@Majima_Nowhere, because Jabba in old cannon worked quite well and directly with Palpatine.

[@ThisisKyle]

It was a way to oppressor and then she took the symbol of that oppression the literal chain around her neck and proceeded to choke the life out of her Captor. If that's not Female empowerment then I donny know what is

[@maddragon3076]

"Protect the characters that George created" Killed Han Solo in the force Awakens. Killed Luke Skywalker in the Last Jedi.

[@TheKyrix82]

Oddly enough...its nicer than what happened in the old continuity

[@sjmcc13]

They did more then just kill Luke, they destroyed his entire character.

[@TheKyrix82]

@sjmcc13 Not really Luke has never really had much agency himself. Hes always done what others expected. The first time he deviated from that was saving Vader. The idea that he'd escape somewhere and realize he never actually wanted to be a hero kinda makes sense

[@sjmcc13]

@@TheKyrix82 But teen Luke would not pull a weapon on a sleeping innocent teen. There is so much wrong with that one scene it is not funny.

[@TheKyrix82]

@sjmcc13 He absolutely would. Luke's DEFINING TRAIT is his impulsiveness, acting without thinking. If you'd paid attention you'd also notice that his IMMEDIATE response was "Why the fuck did I do that?". This is the man Yoda told "Don't take your weapons I the cave" and Luke did it anyway. This I the man Yoda told "You can lift the X-Wing, you only THINK it's too big" and Luke failed because he doubted it. This is the man Yoda told "Don't leave your training early, you might ruin what your friends accomplished" and left anyway, lost his lightsaber and his hand, and had to be rescued by the people HE came to rescue. Luke doesn't think before he acts, nor does he think much for himself at all. The ONE TIME acting on impulse worked for him was throwing away his lightsaber and taunting Palpatine, and that STILL bit him in the ass and got his father killed.

[@dreiak]

Star wars is patriarchal? Who is the leader of the rebellion again? Who becomes president of the known galaxy again? It isn't Luke.

[@arctictiger8690]

And who was the leader of the movement that tried to save the Republic in the senate?

[@jollyroger195]

Luke just wanted to go rebuild the Jedi in peace. Maybe get married and have a family in the future if we follow the neat EU books.

[@dreymak4071]

Star Wars never was patriarchal, it's just an excuse for why they're losing money.

[@suziechapstick8236]

And who got burned to a crisp outside Luke's house?

[@sosamma090]

Star Wars is essentially a story about a relationship between father and son that takes place in outer space. So in a way, it is patriarchal. But they always love making it sound so bad.

[@amalgam777]

The Acolyte was ultimately destroyed by the power of MAAAAAAANNNNYYYYYY!

[@Fatherlobster800]

What a cringe fuckin scene😂😂😂😂😂

[@dhunter1133]

The power of one! The power of two! The power of MISANDRY!

[@ericgolightly8450]

I read it as "the power of Manny"

[@marmyeater]

And this many didn't die when a random woman waved her hand.

[@mlodyowiec5683]

Ngl, this made me chuckle

[@DeNorali]

They made it clear that they don't want me as a customer, so I left. And now they are screeching that we left. Weird.

[@partydave1067]

I never been to a reltionship before but it sounds quite like an abusive reltionship

[@Pherim_]

Sounds like my ex. Told me to fuck myself but still want me to buy expensive Birthday gifts and Valentines ​@@partydave1067

[@Phynellius]

don't like it don't buy it... no not like that 🤣

[@dreymak4071]

It's what happens when you as a company don't cater to your main demographic.

[@3adgamd3r]

@@dreymak4071 but… but… the modern audience!? 😭😭😭

[@Lampoluke]

-turn science-fantasy series into a bunch of fanfictions for 16 yo girls -spend hundreds of millions -something like 2% of 16yo girls watch that -they make no money -"how it could happen?"

[@GremlinSciences]

You forgot "attack everyone that isn't a 16 yo girl of color," "everyone else leaves," and "attack everyone that that didn't watch, even the 16 yo girls"

[@user-um7jx9mc2r]

They’re making games for minorities, while forgetting about the MAJORITY. And the minority don’t even play these games to begin with

[@dreymak4071]

16 year olds find it cringe, they're so bad at this that they can't even succeed at catering to the people they're trying to.

[@ALJ9000]

“How could this happen? We’re smarter than this.”

[@3adgamd3r]

@@ALJ9000 “apparently not”

[@brotquel1592]

"Star Wars is too patriarchal" -Padme is the front of the republic, openly opposing the imperialistic tendencies of Palpaltine and the Trade Federation, literally being the main force slowing the onset of the Empire -Leia leads the rebellion against the Empire first and the First Order second, also strangles a giant force-immune alien slug mafia lord who enslaved her -Shaak-Ti and Ayla Secura are two of the most important jedis and active part of the jedi council, Shaak-Ti also cohordinating the efforts and the training of the clone factories on Kamino -Ashoka, initially as Fulcrum, cohordinates the first days of the anti-Empire resistance and slowed the descent of Anakin into the dark side, she is also the most notorious grey jedi -Hera Syndulla keeps the crew of the Ghost together making them a vital part of the early days of the resistance against the Empire Seriously, how can someone be so igno- "We hired X because they are not into Star Wars" Ah, ok... that explains it.

[@quox3987]

That’s before we get into the Expanded Universe and some of the games like Adi Gallia stopping Saboath Squadron and their hex weapons, Vanna Sage helping Naboo’s resistance, Master Yaddle almost stopping Dooku’s fall to the Dark Side, Mara Jade who was a member of the Emperor’s Hand that shirked the dark side and joined the reformed Jedi council and married Luke. And that’s just the light side.

[@ASNS117Zero]

"Ahsoka ... is also the most notorious grey Jedi." That's just objectively not true.

[@brotquel1592]

@@ASNS117Zero for anyone who stick ti the screen, that being the overwhelming majority of SW fans, Ahsoka is, indeedm the most notorious grey jedi BY A LANDLIDE.

[@markcreamer6179]

They're not ignorant. They despise men.

[@KonekoNyan]

​@ASNS117Zero Yeah, I'm pretty sure Revan holds that title, as he was the most powerful Grey force user in the past few thousand years.

[@blacksheepwall79]

Why do they not want to work with men? Because men will tell them their ideas are stupid. They'll ask. "Why can she use a lightsaber fluently and beat an actually trained guy the first time she ever fights anyone with it?" There's this stuff called training!

[@dhunter1133]

I always thought it's because men find Joseph Campbell's "hero's journey" compelling storytelling; that is, we like our heroes to start weak and become strong through trials, setbacks, overcoming obstacles, etc because "becoming" is a powerful theme in boys' lives. Women don't find the hero's journey compelling; rather, they gravitate to the "Mary Sue," the protagonist who is naturally and effortlessly smart, beautiful, elegant, resourceful, and whom everyone admires and wants to be friends or romantic partners with, because "being" is a powerful theme in girl's lives. This is why Lucas wrote Luke's story as "becoming" and Leia's story as "being," because the man knew what he was doing.

[@jollyroger195]

I still think it probably would have been better if Boyega turned out to be a Jedi and Rey was more like Solo. Would have made more sense with her growing up as a scrapper.

[@klaushipp1207]

@@dhunter1133 Lucas actually wrote that dumpster fire? For real? No way.

[@dreymak4071]

@@jollyroger195 Me and a buddy of mine actually did this, we went through and rewrote it that way, lol.

[@aaronburdon221]

Some men train for 20 years with a blade.

[@CoalCoalJames]

Fun fact~ Kathleen had zero input on the OG starwars, she was a glorified assistant who literally got coffee and stuff (the same with most of the other lucus films she was credited on too). She was infamous for butting in on conversations with the real creatives as they worked and saying the dumbest shit imaginable that made Lucas and other's just laugh at her. One of the most famous being (talking about Han solo): "what if instead of getting the girl...... he got the dog." Yes.. she seriously suggested that to the team and was laughed at.

[@VOgaming51official]

wtf is wrong with her....don't answer that

[@sik3xploit]

Not only was Padme a big part of the series but she was a very strong character. She had a tough mind for poltics and a battlefield. She was the QUEEN of her nation and Senate representative who could not be detered when she abdicaded, meanwhile in her personal life she would be the mother of the two most powerful Jedi, and these twats are ignoring her.

[@dreymak4071]

It's the same with Leia in the OT, they can't acknowledge that "strong women" existed in star wars. Or even Lando for example, people conveniently forget that black characters existed in both the OT (Lando Calrissian) and PT (Mace Windu) They can't acknowledge these things because it disrupts their narrative. It's to the point where I can tell a true fan apart from a Disney shill just by whether or not they acknowledge these things.

[@sik3xploit]

@@dreymak4071 It's because they're not some obese lesbian.

[@johnj.spurgin7037]

Unfortunately, the worst part of the prequels trilogy was the creepy relationship and abysmal dialogue between Padme and Anakin. It was written so badly. :(

[@dennisbeaman958]

​@@johnj.spurgin7037I always gave leeway to Anakin dialogue to padme because he's a awkward teen dating his first and only crush he hasn't seen since he was 9 years old or however young in phantom menace because if I remember correctly he's a teenager in attack of the clones and when they reunited it was stated they haven't seen each other in years and he doesn't have romantic experience why would a guy who is a teen be a amazing at talking to his crush when he has no experience with love or relationships

[@johnj.spurgin7037]

@@dennisbeaman958 I guess that's mildly fair, but it always felt very OFF. Least favorite part of the prequels.

[@verspin]

It's 2024 and we're like "Women and other minorities deserve more representation" Like...were we not already getting that for years?

[@dreymak4071]

Yep, when I ask people like this to name the last time there were absolutely no female/non-white leads they have to go all the way back to the 50s. I don't know a world where women and non-whites couldn't be main characters or even just have decently important roles. But these people keep claiming that the 2010s was the first years it's happened.

[@suziechapstick8236]

That's what happens with ideological movements... even though they got pretty much everything they wanted, its still not enough. They're not fighting for equality anymore, they want preferential treatment.

[@ASNS117Zero]

🤦‍♂I'm sick of these kind of statements, they're stupid and they make me convinced people just can't math. There are more women in the United States than there are men - and if you combine women with men who are part of ethnic minorities you're describing the vast majority of the countries entirely population.

[@Shyhalu]

@@suziechapstick8236 No, they got that already. Now they are demanding everything.

[@benschultz1784]

​@suziechapstick8236 They don't want equality, they want power

[@johnnyd1790]

In fantasy, 2 things matter: 1. The author to be good; 2. The story and characters to kick ass. The rest, how many white, black, asian, little green men from Mars are, is completely irrelevant. What matters is those who are there to make sense. That's all.🤷‍♂️

[@SlumberingWolf]

Ah yes, common-sense... the thing that Hollywood lacks and a lot of modern writing/world-building fails to implement.

[@wardenm]

Sadly, the difference of late is that they're not making characters, they're making pandering political statements. If said statement is depicted as having flaws, it undercuts their message so they need to portray them always as perfect, leading to the vast number of Mary Sue forgettable narratives now.

[@dreymak4071]

@@wardenm I mean, does it shock anyone that they took a character that might've had decent potential and turned him into the "token bumbling black guy"?

[@WolfODonnelfan]

There is no pleasing them anyways, just look at Space Marine 2. The 3 male leads in that game are black, asian and white. In addition there are 2 female characters central to the plot of the game as well. Still, some (disingenous) reviewers complained about the 'lack of diversity' in said game (though I suspect they didn't play the game long enough, or at all, to figure this out).

[@wardenm]

@WolfODonnelfan An example of good diversity I like to point out is Telltale's The Walking Dead games. Lee and Clem were AMAZING characters, and they succeeded as diverse individuals not because of blatant pandering, but because their roles weren't bogged down by meta political narrative or specifically pushing that they were in fact diverse as if it were a game play feature, the way it's treated a lot of times now.

[@Fatherlobster800]

Dude it embarrasing to hear her say. "Eerrm i dont feel safe in my imaginary community with my imaginary made up problems😂😂"

[@matejbosela9093]

"The power of manyyyyy" - the gift that keeps on giving. Except it did not deliver the "Power of Moneyyyy" to Disney.

[@LumemDH]

Oh, it did deliver the “Power of Many” to Disney, alright. The “Power of Many” Angry Star Wars’ Fans!

[@thatHARVguy]

$180 million for that trash. More like the power of money laundry, amirite?

[@HisMagnificence]

John Boyega got fucked hard out of an extremely high potential role.

[@TheRetroRenegade]

What’s really sad is hearing him talk in interviews about how initially he tried to play Finn more seriously, because that would fit the roll of a defecting stormtrooper. But instead they wanted him to be a funny character… I still kinda like Finn, at least in the first movie, but there’s no denying they did his character dirty from the start.

[@3adgamd3r]

@@TheRetroRenegadegotta make a joke outta the black guy to secure that Chinese audience 🙄 seriously, check out the Chinese posters for the film, I genuinely believe that had he not been treated as a joke they were afraid it wouldn’t be allowed in China, they almost completely removed him from the marketing done over there

[@TheRetroRenegade]

@@3adgamd3r I do remember seeing the different posters trying to minimize him, but never factored in that that may be the reason for making him more of a clownish character. I don't know if it was that or just Disney wanting to capture every market they could by injecting humor even in places it didn't belong in the story, but the fact remains they did John and his character dirty, especially in The Last Jedi...

[@3adgamd3r]

@@TheRetroRenegade you’re absolutely right that they did him dirty, I just think the Chinese audience had a lot to do with it, for example a serious black character in Black Panther did horrendously badly in China, and so I think to try and offset that they made Finn into a joke to try and get a slice of that 1bn population the Chinese have China’s market is inherently like three times bigger than the US, and so A LOT of Disney’s (and not only Disney but others too but Disney is the relevant topic here) decisions are about pandering to Chinese censors to try and get more money, it didn’t work, but they really, really tried

[@ASNS117Zero]

@@3adgamd3r I'm 100% certain it was because of the Chinese audience. Most Americans just don't understand how racist east Asia actually is, *especially* toward people with black skin.

[@sjmcc13]

33:58 Ashoka was disliked in season 1 of Clone Wars, she started to be liked after she had her character growth arc in season 1, and was well liked by fans before the sale. Also, she was hated for being a bratty teen, not for being a girl. Ashoka actually has character growth, so did the cast of Rebels during that series, and indare anymore to say Hera was not in charge there.

[@StarboyXL9]

"She's 14 in Clone Wars" Luke, you have no idea...and she was a good friend.

[@CoalCoalJames]

Bro, she was only popular because of the sick tumbler type freaks making porn of her. Most starwars fans never even watched clone wars because it was a kids show and the horrible animation style. But I will say, the few fans of clone wars that there are, are defiantly rabid and passionate about the later seasons.

[@CoalCoalJames]

@@StarboyXL9 You talking about the AI parody of Obi-wan? telling luke about Asoka. That shit had me literally holding my sides in pain from laughter.

[@StarboyXL9]

@@CoalCoalJames On God yes lmao. I think I gave up the ghost watching that.

[@Lark88]

I think Dave Filoni said he made her unlikable on purpose because he had this character arc in mind of her becoming more mature and responsible as the war went on.

[@Gibby34340]

How the fuck sci-fi, especially STAR WARS, not inclusive for "people of color"? The second Death Star was literally destroyed by a black guy, and Vader was played by one of the most legendary black actors in history. And what about the tons of different alien species? Does Yoda being green not "colored" enough to even be recognized? That seems pretty racist...

[@fivezedits2486]

Well, Vader was VOICED by James Earl Jones, but the body was played by David Prowse. Edit: You are still correct, people choose to forget that starwars is a fictional, sci-fi fantasy with thousands of species, and humans, are not classified by their fucking skin colour, only racists care about skin colour. I stand my ground on this

[@Gibby34340]

@fivezedits2486 Spot on. I can't think think of a single fictional universe that's more "diverse" than Star Wars. Even if we ignore all if the written canon and consider only the movies, the issues they cry and complain about are about as real as the series itself...

[@liesdamnlies3372]

@@Gibby34340The Culture series by Ian M Banks. That’s more diverse. Mostly because the number of species in the Culture is effectively innumerable by definition and something left kinda as free real estate, because the Culture is literally too inconceivably complex for a puny organic mind to handle, which is why it’s run by AIs. Good books, I do recommend reading. :p

[@johnj.spurgin7037]

All they have are lies, because the truth means they have no problem to virtue signal and grift off of.

[@Ron_Junkman]

Mace Fucking Windu

[@TheMetalfreak360]

This reminds me of people complaining that men are not showing up to watch women's sports, like football. It ain't our job.

[@Boyahda]

Is it money laundering, a tax scam, or a skill issue? Is it intentional vandalism of beloved franchises out of jealousy, hatred or incompetence? I don't know what's going on anymore. I just wanna go back to sleep.

[@aztumtheknightofwumbo7060]

All pf the above at the hands of a woman who's compensating for something.

[@John-lm8ro]

I think it's pretty clear at this point that it's just about destroying any and every cultural icon that has historically brought people together. That's why they're willing to sacrifice vast sums of money time and time again to acquire IPs and institutions just to defile and destroy them.

[@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714]

Theyre just burning DIsney investor money. Cos everyone knows women dont geek out over a franchise and buy figurines, and its not like disrespecting the franchise wont drive away men of all races not just europians.

[@ReliaYT]

"I think it's canon that R2D2 is a lesbian." *insert R2D2 cry*

[@dreymak4071]

They have to sexually anthropomorphize everything, even droids, it's pathetic..

[@dennisbeaman958]

​@@dreymak4071well in the past it was actually confirmed R2 was straight he has a astromech girlfriend that's pink if I remember correctly she also appeared in a Lego star wars short aswell

[@rafabuda0]

He is the best lesbian representation.

[@EbenezerEibenhardt]

R2 is male. Every socket he inserts his interface probe into is female. That's how connectors work.

[@nathanpride521]

@@EbenezerEibenhardt even without that in multiple movies C3P0 refers to R2 as male

[@J.P1981]

The star wars prequels were not perfect, they had their problems. But god, they were still way better than half the stuff that's been coming out.

[@TheRandomMuffinMan]

It’s funny how it took the sequels for us to appreciate the prequels. That and the clone wars cartoon really helped flesh out the time period like it deserved.

[@J.P1981]

​Yeah, as a kid, I liked the prequels. But as an adult, I found new appreciation thanks to the clone wars show, and the other connected material that helped expand on those movies. I also thought The Mandalorian, Rebels, and Andor was pretty good.

[@hermos3602]

I always loved the Prequels way before Disney bought Star Wars. I actually like them a bit more than the Original Trilogy. Attack of the Clones is my favorite film in the franchise.

[@GlomezAddemZ]

That's not saying a whole lot. They couldn't stomach people making a connection to Christianity in the Jedi, so they spent most of the movies turning Jedi into the biggest dumbasses ever. Maybe they shouldn't have called them knights then. Anakin was so poorly acted and hollow as a character that they invented two Clone Wars series to try to wash the stink of disappointment out of people's mouths. I never got into Clone Wars. I couldn't care less about it. The way they make Anakin look and act on those shows makes him look like he has amnesia by the time Revenge of the Sith is supposed to happen. You don't get a chance to sweep that under the rug with me. And then of course they retroactively gave him Ashoka as a padawan after the council refuses to give him the title of Master in the movies. Sure, you only need to be a Knight in order to get a padawan to teach since that's what you need to do in order to become a Master. But this Ashoka character presumably goes on to do amazing things under his guidance and become beloved by a bunch of the new fans, right? And even so, by Revenge of the Sith, Anakin isn't worthy of being a Master? Are you kidding me? Ashoka came off pretty annoying to me too, actually. "Oh fine, let's make him kill some kids. That's "evil" isn't it? Evil enough to get a pass for completely half-assing Anakin's characterization!" What an asspull. No one can mention the prequels around me. I start making fart noises to the tune of the Gungan parade from the ending of Phantom Menace.

[@Lampoluke]

Doing better than the prequels is like jumping a bar that is set so low that you can walk over it. Ofc Dysney manages to step on the bar, fall and hit her face on the ground

[@RainMakeR_Workshop]

Easiest way to spot a fake geek is when they call themselves a nerd. Nerds are academics! Geeks are enthusiasts!

[@goldenhate6649]

There's also two kinds of nerds. Those who play video games like Satisfactory because its what they went to school for, and those who go "Whelm achshully"

[@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714]

Im I find geek and nerd to be interchangable and I watch hour long power point presentations about the economy and have been a diehard fan of Hyperdimension Neptunia for 11 months now.

[@crashzone6600]

Kathleen Kennedy was really acting like Palpatine in that clip wasn't she... saying what she thinks people want to hear, but in her mind she is thinking I'm gonna do the exact opposite. I mean "im gonna protect these characters going forward" quickly became "yeah, we're destroying them all, we are doing something new, and the future is female."

[@TheMultiForge]

People who blame Kathleen clearly don't know what movies she's worked on.... Back to the Future Trilogy, Jurassic Park, Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, E.T, Hook...

[@crashzone6600]

@@TheMultiForge past behavior/success does not excuse current behavior.

[@Martial_Autist]

@@TheMultiForge All it shows is that she was possibly never the driving force behind those things, just riding the coattails of greater minds and greater talents working with her. Either that or she fell off hard in her old age. Because she has consistently proven since to be completely out of touch and just atrocious at managing the star wars franchise, making bad decision after bad decision. And stubbornly refusing to step down because she feels entitled to a huge 'win' first. So she will take loss after loss while killing the franchise. How on earth is she not to blame. You can't give her full credit for those old works and at the same time not blame her for her more recent ones. I don't care about back to the future. I don't care about indiana jones. I don't care about ET. I don't care about hook. I don't care about jurassic park. But I do care about star wars. Star wars used to be a cultural phenomenon almost unlike any other in the movie industry, one of the greatest IP's ever made. Now it's name is equatable with garbage. If that is not a clear indictment of kennedy's current qualifications as a producer then nothing will ever be.

[@souvikmitra6161]

​@@TheMultiForge so if I help some architects in assisting them to build some great high rise buildings, I can then destroy a whole big residential property and get away with it...might sound stupid but so do you.

[@jld12er]

@@souvikmitra6161 no its more like if i get coffee for some architects while they build a high rise then i am now responsible for creating those same high rises (she was a glorified coffee runner while those movies were made)

[@ra6765]

Alana: "papaya~" Me: *happy noises*

[@TurntBucket]

25:50 "So we bought this $4 billion IP because of how successful it is and how strong the brand is. We were thinking we're going to dramatically change the demographic the IP is targeting." These ppl are clowns. You don't buy a Rolex and then decide to take it apart and mess with it. At least wait to mess with the films until after the IP has paid for itself. It's like the executives at Disney have no business sense at all. The whole point of buying an IP is that the IP has proven that its formula works. If you are going to change the formula then there is no point in buying the IP. Just make something new.

[@ioele1000]

As the quote goes "You don't go to a Pizza shop and order the burger."

[@theredheadwiththread1275]

I'm a nerd and have been since I was but a wee anklebiter. When I was growing up, none of my nerd friends and I cared about anyone's race if they wanted to hang with us. As long as they were even a little nerdy, we were fine with it. However, I did notice that my nerdy black friends were called Oreo, told they wanted to be white, or that they weren't "black enough" by other black people because they were nerds.

[@o-mangaming5042]

I've heard similar. That black people consider being smart to be a white people thing. I'm starting to think that when Stenberg says black people don't feel safe in the nerd community, she's actually referring to how other black people view black nerds, not white people. And she's only attacking white people to pander to other people of color.

[@generalgarchomp333]

Wild isn't it? People who yap about inclusivity are often the most exclusive and hateful people. (Not talking about anyone specific, mostly the vast number of people talking about the need for inclusivity and making cookie cutter, nearly racist levels of stereotyped characters.)

[@FFgamesftw]

Yeah I had one black girl that I talked to when I referred to my nerdy black friends she told me that "they aren't actually black and they gave up their black card"

[@MrGerhardGrobler]

In South Africa they are called Coconuts, by the current leader of the EFF party. The world is going to hell in a hand basket.

[@goldenhate6649]

@@FFgamesftw Well for blacks in America, being a productive and intelligent member of society is considered 'not black'. They are their own oppressors and why I feel zero sympathy for them.

[@mr.melancholy4973]

Kathleen Kennedy destroyed one of the greatest IPs in Cinema history. I believe it's clear she has dirt on someone in Disney. Because I can't understand how you can screw up this many times and STILL keep your job.

[@HiddenRealm]

It's Hollywood. She's female. The place is a cesspool, and provably worse if you're a woman, but the benefit is you can always scream sexual misconduct (and a lot if the time there's truth to it), or some other form of abuse, and boom social sabotage. Amber Turd is a good example of this. Just comes down to if you're a shitty enough person to stoop that far.

[@MetalNCarnet]

"We can do it better because we are women." This sentence is destroying the planet.

[@c-o-b-o-2010]

9:44 On what Alana was saying, the original Disney Mulan is a great example of a female lead done right.

[@antonakesson]

Hell yeah

[@johnj.spurgin7037]

YES. it was a fantastic and compelling story.

[@kmafia229V2]

Glad Adam got away from this. Those new female Star Wars fans were harassing the hell out of him and his wife.

[@consciousout8150]

R2D2 got called "him" by C3PO

[@Wandering_Joe]

What happened to the narrative that they were a gay male couple? At least get your false gay narrative right people.

[@Wandering_Joe]

What happened to the false narative that they were a gay male robot couple? At least keep your false gay narrative straight.

[@consciousout8150]

@@Wandering_Joe exactly

[@benmccoy6417]

Evil cannot create it can only corrupt or destroy what already exists.

[@yozen1995]

5:00 Yeah thinking about it who are the notable political figures that are easiest to name in Lucas Star Wars. Princess Laia, Padme, Amadala, Dooku and Palpatine. At least for me, like the ones who stand out first are the women.

[@yozen1995]

Also had a thought. This obsession with these people constantly talking about how gay they are reminds me of dude bros talking about how many chicks they've gotten with. Both are equally annoying and makes you wonder if there is insecurity there.

[@Remi617]

While she is not popular Mon Mothma is another one. Also it’s Leia not Laia, Amidala not Amadala and there should be no comma between Padme and Amidala.

[@yozen1995]

@@Remi617 Thanks I'm bad with names.

[@jld12er]

lets not forget about kreia the most important teacher of revan who is one of the biggest grey jedi there is (revan not kreia)

[@Hawkcap]

I feel bad for Lucas. Like this is also happening to DND. I still remember that Wizard of the Coast released a book with the original scripts, ideas and all that from from the 3 founders of DND. The twist is that they also put editor notes there just hacked down on the DND founders. The only founder there is still alives opinion when the book was released was like "taking over all we created, smearing me and my friends names through the mud and then dancing on the graves of my friends". So much great source material, such great legacies and then these people are just ruining it all.

[@hawkeye5955]

I don't know about that. George Lucas should bare some responsibility for what his franchise has become. He gave up creative control over his franchise for a huge payout and his comments seemed to suggest that he got duped by Kathleen Kennedy. Even if he does feel that he got duped, it appears that he has no interest in getting the franchise back.

[@Hawkcap]

@@hawkeye5955 Well to be fair he has no interest in getting the franchise back. He gave it up mainly to spend time with his family. He did also get a big payout, but family was the main reason for his decission. They promised things, they didnt keep the verbal promises they made to him and it would be a big legal fight for him to get control back, he might not even be alive when that fight would be over ^^

[@shadowrodney]

"R2D2 is a lesbian" ............. my brain flatlined for a second... xD

[@CWinterstorm]

I think that was more devastating than my stroke last month....

[@rayanderson5797]

This clip always makes me chuckle: "My character is a very powerful leader..." * Long silence... * "She's a very powerful leader..." * Finally like one person picks up the cue and goes 'woo!' * "Yaas! Yaas!" * As if she'd gotten the reaction she'd wanted the first time. *

[@damascusraven]

1. Alienate, mock, and gaslight your core audience. 2. Fail. 3. Blame them.

[@xenohans9364]

First time I heard about the third trilogy and how a former stormtrooper was a part of the main cast, I thought; "Oh. A possible stormtrooper turned Jedi? That's cool.". Nope. What wasted potential. But knowing the quality of writing from today's Star Wars, it would have been ham-fisted, spiteful, nonsense anyways.

[@abigaillewis2662]

Fr, I was SO disappointed that he didn't become a Jedi and almost immediately got relegated to a freaking side character once Rey met the Rebels.

[@switchgear100]

​@@abigaillewis2662same, i and oukd have settled for force sensitive

[@KeyboardTarantula]

dude I LOVED finn. he made so much of a better character than Rey. I thought it was gonna be the dynamic of two bros and the Female Han Solo stand in with one foot out the door. you can see parts of this in force awakens. from the "Traitor" scene and the opening, I genuinely thought finn was gonna be the protagonist. he literally has a lightsaber in the poster. he had it ONCE during the movie, and he, understandably, was incompetent.

[@MrDrekki]

i love how in that interview with george, kathleen is SO FAR back in her chair, and has a look of contempt and disgust towards him, the body language is so clear... Man knew she would fuck it up and burn it to the ground, but got so much cash out of it.

[@otterbp003]

i guess as a few others said, he wanted to retire and be with family. and even if he didnt. knew when he passed away it would be a wreck anyways...

[@IgnusXI]

Smug is the best KZbinr ever lmfao. The R2d2 sound effects is god like lol

[@Dave_Chrome]

Padme was the literal GOAT in the Phantom Menace, a queen at 14 and still had the guts to go back to her planet to make a deal with the Gungans and fight to liberate Naboo when the galactic politicians wanted to drag their feet in the relief process. She also drives the plot forward herself in Attack of the Clones, Anakin is just following her essentially. And then later in Revenge of the Sith she immediately calls BS on the formation of the Empire, being one of the founding members of what would later become the Rebel Alliance before she dies in childbirth. Pretending Star Wars didn't have badass women from the very start is just pure blindless :/

[@minigunner1218]

Oh, Kathleen and co do know that Star Wars has badass female characters. The problem is that said characters have two things that they despise: challenges and character growth.

[@ErtgdRecf]

The problem with star wars is there being overseen by women who are fifty shades of grey and twilight fans who like guys that are rich and or dangerous they already have there fans.

[@yourfriend-d7b]

Wake up men! Our fox wife has posted!

[@Fatherlobster800]

Looool that's pretty funny😂😂😂

[@pondfishrancher]

What if fox wife want foxvorce? Take fox children?

[@tannerhamilton6025]

OUR fox wife, because she's Russian. **Soviet anthem intensifies**

[@konstantinos-iliasstrempas4594]

@@pondfishrancher don't forget the fox house fox support

[@Fatherlobster800]

@@pondfishrancher there will be no quarter for thee. The fox kids are in my basement

[@TheRetroRenegade]

“Their creativity starts and stops at the mirror” is such a powerful line! Some of the most based shit if heard in a while (and this is just after seeing the Mr. Bean speech)!

[@TaifinNerris]

Mara Jade has been here for 30 years

[@generaldeadpool3245]

George Lucas is just sitting there and thinking maybe i shouldn't have sell the IP to to the mouse

[@mbob4337]

What's hilarious is that She-Hulk was a very popular character, in comics. Than was destroyed by women. Starting with Mariko Tamaki. Than Jason Aaron did the last nail in the coffin. The show continued the destruction. Unless a company is intentionally not hiring XYZ people. Increasing the women at Lucasfilm is forcing less talent. There's a reason why there's not a lot of women at the place. Women, more so than men. Do not find those job positions wanting. Just like the primary demographic for Soap Opera's are women. I don't see them going after the male demo, to increase it. You know why? Because they have to ALTER Soap Opera's to do that. Than they aren't Soap Opera's anymore. Imagine Days of our lives gets converted into Shield. You think women are gonna be happy with that?

[@ZanathKariashi]

I dunno, as long as it's full of sexy men with porn tier acting skill, it might work.

[@blackstar-genX]

I love how people forget the night sisters existed.

[@antonakesson]

Yeah that was my thought as well. Tell the Night Brothers that they are in fact in charge. They must have just missed it XD

[@ProtonCannon]

36:20 _"I think we attracted some really strong women in front of the camera."_ Yeah like *Gina Carano?* Whom they then *FIRED* for no proper reason and now facing a lawsuit from her that is heading to trial right now.

[@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr]

Disney killing a guy's wife at Disneyland would also make them lose in court against Gina Carano and Elon Musk.

[@slimfastsubaru2043]

Actually the actress for rey was so unathletic they had to dumb down all the choreography in the movie. So she did fk it up. The guy who does the choreography said this in an interview.

[@brianw3415]

The fight scene with the red imperial guards was horrifyingly bad. I've seen B movies with better fights.

[@Track_Tension]

It was refreshing to hear, "I just want good content." Thank you.

[@andrew49913]

5:33 princess leia, padme amidalla, duchess satin ashoka tano, jedi master ayla secura and lets not forget jedi master yadle. these are just a few powerful female characters in the canon that I can name of the top of my head, at this point its clear to me that the people running the show hate what came before and just want to see it burnt to the ground.

[@Nara.Shikamaru]

Shaak Ti, Sabine Wren, and Hera too. Women have been around in both plot-relevant roles and combat roles forever in this universe. It’s just fucking corpos trying to earn their brownie points.

[@brandonazul3426]

Or the witch sisters that made darth maul and his brother

[@IneaFaedyn]

They literally just wanna make money and make men mad, that's it that's all. They assume nobody before them ever had any notion of equality and everything before now that was in any way created with a man in any kind of lead position is tainted. It's disgusting.

[@RukilEngetsu]

​@@brandonazul3426literally the race ruled by women😂

[@ShadowNight21]

Do they not understand that movies are suppose to be a form of escape which is the same rule applied to video games?

[@BarioIDL]

as long as their products sells, they don't need to know

[@jameslars7391]

@@BarioIDL The problem is that their products don't sell its been proven time and time again that these types of products lose tons of money every time they have been tried.

[@BarioIDL]

@@jameslars7391 reduced tax and capital investments are more important than sells, ig

[@Keeki95]

Escape from what though? Whatever it is, pretty sure they don't want you escaping from it. They believe everything they do should be "having the conversation" and "doing the work" for their cause.

[@jesterlefae3940]

15:04 Lucas keeps shifting his eyes at Kennedy. He knew, she knew, we know

[@Majima_Nowhere]

I still don't know how he thought Star Wars was worth "only" 4 billion. He can't have not known Disney was going to ruin it.

[@cody8314]

Almost my whole life I lived with women saying stuff like “men are useless sometimes” or just just dumb

[@N7Tigger]

Peter Dinklage: I don't watch House of the Dragon because it is too deviated from the source material. Also Peter Dinklage: The new Snow White movie shouldn't have dwarves in it.

[@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr]

I've never taken Peter Dinklage seriously even before the controversy surrounding him.

[@airynod]

How can a fantasy world be safe space or not to any group of people. FFS. The "fantasy" fantasy story are from European literature, that is why when Japanese adopted it and tend to have most characters as a European-like characters. Yet, they have their own fantasy based on their culture, or mixed with both. Chinese have Wuxia and Cultivation fantasy. THAT IS WHY PEOPLE KEEP SAYING MAKE YOUR OWN STORY, GADDAMNIT

[@verspin]

Personally I think men deserve more representation in Star Wars because for some years now it's been a highly female dominated space and I think many boys would love to see the change. You can start by hiring some men on higher positions and take them seriously

[@timmerjoy8781]

Crazy. The people who made fun of me for watching Star Wars are now the people making it

[@Jack-kx5rf]

Yeah the the entire Star Wars story the Emperors biggest roadblock in his path the the creation of the empire was not the Jedi, it was Padme. He knew that Anakin would never forgive him and likely kill him if he found out he had Padme killed but he took the gamble and tried to kill her numerous times. Yet Disney Star Wars likes to forget she exists. Leia is the same too, she's one of the leaders of the rebellion after her planets destruction. Luke's story is the focus of the film but it's Leia that is the focus of the actual events. Yet Disney Star Wars likes to forget she exists.

[@sjmcc13]

The entirety of Ep 2 revolves around Padme, it starts with her assassination attempt, and the story arcs are centered on how the characters react to that.

[@wardenm]

Regardless of who it is, actively marketing against your biggest demographic, is bound to backfire. And honestly, nerd culture hasn't had a problem with matriarchal societies. Look at the drow in d&d or night elves in WoW, the asaari in Mass Effect, etc etc. The difference is the heavy handed pandering lately while actively shunning the other fans and telling them to stay away. Flawless characters just do not work for compelling narratives.

[@kaspi001]

What happened to Star Wars can be explained by the LEGO's study on how boys and girls play.

[@ZanathKariashi]

"Never sell anything to vermin" is a good lesson we could all learn.

[@housewilma4904]

kathleen and kamla got to there jobs the same way talentlessly "heelsup" for there boss when they were attractive and young then hold it over the bosses heads forever afterwords till your the NEW boss. yeah to people who dont know kathleen literally was the girl who brought coffe to the actual directors that was how she got into the industry and that is her "backrond knowledge". yet somehow despite literally having nothing to do with them but being a dliverygirl she suddenly controlls all those old directors she once served ips HUUUUM must of been great "coffe".

[@LumemDH]

Coffee with a side of Hawk Tua

[@paxvesania2008]

Someone suggest the squatter video saga to Alana. The AsianAndy one. I bet she will LOVE it. XD.

[@thegloomwalker6800]

Dude I ran across that the other day but I wanna see her reaction, it would be great

[@viperwell7541]

R2-D2 Identify as Be-Bo-Pop😂

[@k1ndr3dspirits]

We love SmugAlana~! 😊❤️

[@Bubbleskittymaster]

When seeing shit like this, I remember the quote of "evil can not create it can only corrupt and destory." Also, I am mixed, and I have never felt unsafe in nerd spaces like many things with the black community the biggest danger is other black people most white nerds will go "yo you like the same stuff as we do that's great you can join us." If you ask black needs they got shut for not being into Sports and other shit and they had more of problem with other black people than white nerds

[@jwt6577]

Watch some of the interviews of Lucasfilm people talking about George sometime. They talk about him like he died years ago. It's dark.

[@tomdubois9389]

I hate sand.

[@4587144000]

57:45 i think the reason the studios do so much less original projects is.. the films cost so much money.. they want to go the extra safe way. "oh a remake, the ppl love xy... we cant go wrong with that" its just, from a business perspective, the more logical thing to do. sadly it kills Movies/Tv shows and cinema bc the writers and directors dont know the sourcematerial enough or are advised to not watch or play the game to make their own twist on the story

[@GordotheGamer]

Wonder how some of those “Star Wars fans” that are behind all this nonsense would feel if someone made a terrible Grey’s Anatomy movie where they have to deal with a zombie virus that kills all the fan favorites and just leaves characters that never existed before that movie alive.

[@Nickle_King]

It’s incredible how much KK learned of the dark side. I’m not even saying that as a joke. It’s really like someone looked at a villain and said “That’s the way to live. Angry, hateful, arrogant, selfish. That’s the truth.” No KK. You are just spiteful. Star Wars isn’t not for white men. Star Wars was for everyone. White people is just the majority demographic in the United States. And Star Wars was a global brand. Now, you have made that brand for nobody but yourself. Steven Spielberg was right to snub you at the release party of Indiana Jones.

[@FishBoneCh]

“Star Wars isn’t for you” Ok *doesn’t watch star wars* “WHY DONT YOU WATCH STAR WARS?? REEEEEEE”

[@TerrorKingMugen]

This is what happens when you hire for diversity over quality If the only person who fits diversity has none of the skills and fits only the stereotypes you want to fill You not only fail to make a good product, you set back all kinds of progress you claim as ideology by highlighting those negative stereotypes and strengthening divides. It's not even culture or counter culture, it's anti culture.

[@fefino1411]

Kathleen Kennedy: "200.000 women are ready, with a million more well on the way."

[@hughu9340]

18:06 Jar-Jar Binks is okay.

[@HerculesOfHate]

"Why is it when women are in charge it sucks" The truth is that its not about men or women, its about their goals leading INTO their control. A person hired to be in charge of a product usually would want to simply create the best product possible and be as successful with its production as possible. However, if you are hired into a position with the goal of sending a message completely unrelated to the product, theres OBVIOUSLY going to be quite a change in quality due to a lack of focus in the parts that actually matter to the product. Now dont get me wrong SOMETIMES its possible to sustain both messaging and quality, but the person hired has to actually be talented/skilled in the first place to pull something like this off. Sadly its possible this person wasnt hired due to their skill and only because of their ideology.

[@xaqocstriker3840]

1 hour of yapping lets gooooooooooooooo

[@Azrael79a]

Self Insert fanfics are actually awesome, assuming that the self-inserts are actually interesting, the writing is good and the other characters aren't garbage. The challenge with SI fanfics or any fanfics is that you need to actually write the canon characters 'properly' without greatly altering their personalities or other nonsense for no reason. Which is something that happens often(And basically what they do in a lot of these 'canon' star wars stories). Basically, you have to write actually interesting and likable characters. If you wanna do a self-insert, you gotta be Ryan Reynolds in Deadpool or something like that. Where the actor and the character are both good/interesting. Honestly, a lot of Deadpool stories/comics are practically fanfics, but they're interesting and fun. That's why they're so popular lol.

[@SpartanTrigger]

Star Wars WAS my favorite IP, I guess it’s not for me 😢

[@Sound_Spark]

Yeah Star Wars used to be good, then it got handed over to people that have never made a movie ever and they where given a lot of money to make a movie.

[@KristopherDorsey-rq8ek]

Yeah I felt that way too it's better to move onto better things since I see star wars dieing in the next ten years or less but hopefully someone in the long distance future revive the ip of star wars after most of us are already gone.

[@mileaminute3498]

“Nerds are gay”, oh God it’s the 80s again.

[@justinleonard6183]

Yesss thank you Alana I’m stuck at work since 6am and this is a godsend

[@ololadin91]

R2D2 is not only a robot and therefore has no sexuallity, he a little dude as well. Never heard anyone saying that he is supposed to be a female... 😂🙈

[@SparrowHawkwood]

I mean, as someone else put it, Luke just letting the lightsaber slip from his hands would have achieved the same thing but would have been far more in character.

[@d112cons]

Rogue One! Observe - it checks all the same boxes. Girlboss, diversity, everything. But! It respects the existing lore and characters, and is written well. Surprise, people love it. Good movie is good.

[@Cheshire_the_smiling_Cat]

A character with no weakness is a bad character no matter the gender, seems to be pretty basic to me, one would really expect people in film production would know that.

[@jeanphilippegrenier]

It's quite ironic that everytime, they say it's not for men. We don't watch it, they then complain it's our fault it failed. Then, they talk about how they don't want us in the community in the first place, like make your goddang mind

[@planetbob6703]

Ignoring that it's a robot that just goes by whatever the factory/user assigned... R2D2 rather fixes spaceships than go to therapy. Not to mention he sticks his little metal thing into everything he can. Pretty sure our little ph@lic shaped friend, who's been refered to as he/him for decades is male. To play their game: Interesting that Disney can misgender one of the faces of Star Wars on pride month and the (not at all biased) media doesn't write a dozen hitpieces...

[@yalo3162]

Apparently, the main writer of FFXIV is a woman who is loved by the fans.

[@theskullboy8700]

Being a star wars fan in the modern day is akin to being in an abusive relationship Edit: maybe that’s why I like bad batch so much. It’s a good story while while having a nice female character in omega

[@avatar40k86]

Alana isn't a fake nerd. No fake nerd could do an impression of Jabba the Hutt that's that good.

[@hakonsgaming535]

The whole thing about Leia and the bikini is an entirely cooked argument anyway. By return of the Jedi Leia was already established as a badass who regularly had to save other character's asses because she was fucking competent. The whole thing with the bikini wasn't meant to demean Leia but to both establish Jabba as a threat (who in the original cuts had only been mentioned as a background character up to that point) and to further establish Leia as a badass, then once she's stripped down she still takes advantage of the first chance she gets to murder her captor who's the most dangerous crimelord in the galaxy. Yeah that's not feminist at all, star wars was always feminist, it didn't need to be changed. Edit: I will say though that she's showing her own lack of knowledge or understanding of the franchise with her opinions of Ahsoka. Ahsoka was initially disliked because the made for TV animated feature she was introduced in was one of the most terrible things in the entire franchise, it got worse ratings than the christmas special, and this was all before Disney bought lucasfilm. Thing is through the clonewars series and later rebels she got a huge amount of very meaningful development, and unlike Rey they actually took the time to show her going from a tallented kid to a very skilled and capable adult who mentored other characters. Ahsoka is now one of the most beloved female characters in the series by the fanbase, so Sydney is talking out her ass whenever she mentions her.

[@yozen1995]

Also I think that Carrie Fisher was the one who thought of the bikini thing. Could just be an internet rumor though.

[@1019bulldog]

4:30 Jeb Bush "please clap" moment

[@Runswithfoot]

i find it funny that all these actors that are saying this safe space shit are also wealthy and privileged people that have most likely never had any of what they spout happen to them and are projecting to feel relatable, kinda like when rapper's talk about the hood but never been to the hood because they were raised in middle class home. edit note: also why does everything have to be diverse, i mean u wouldn't want a african tribe movie with random white and asian people in it playing tribes people so why is it wrong for fiction to have races split up between planets or continents that sometimes dont get along because culture or just never seen each other.

[@GregTheLion]

I'm not a Star Wars fan, but that bit of R2-D2 really hurt- ITS A FUCKING ROBOT

[@RejectHumanityReturn2Monke]

They say it's not for men, so it's for women and lgbtq+=%, right? But why aren't they also not watching?

[@sjmcc13]

Because you also need to be a sci-fi or fantasy fan, and not as many women are. Not all genres appeal to both genders equally, but we only seem to see this forced marketing from the mostly male appealing ones. How many romances are getting made to attract male viewers?

[@bigred559]

A lot of them do watch it, but they pirate it 'cause they are too cheap and expect a good review on some 3rd party site is enough.

[@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr]

@@bigred559 , if alphabet 🔠 🔠 community was the true demographic of the Star Wars fanbase then the store shelves of Acolyte would be sold out immediately, but since it never is clearly that community isn't a true fanbase.

[@cody3504]

When she had to ask who Mark Hamill was I was about to click off the video out of the sheer pain that question pained me 😂