The Council of Nikaea EXPLAINED By An Australian | Warhammer 40k Lore

[@majorkill]

Magnus is lucky his ass his already red, otherwise you'd be able to see the spank marks from half the galaxy away. Last 70 Calendars : majorkill.com/

[@negadoge]

21st like… also just curious can you tell me when I subbed to this whacky channel? Honestly over the entire headache that is the Council of Nikea and I’m okay on Magnus as I don’t know much about him… I love that I learn more about my favorite Primarch and the character that pulled me away from being a filthy nurgalite, Sanguinius of the Blood Angels. I really want a calendar but sadly I’m recently unemployed and broke… my army is on indefinite hold. The burgund Acolytes are still just a dream😢

[@todd5640]

Argel Tal mini when ?

[@negadoge]

@@todd5640 just watch the video he posted 4 days ago dip$hit

[@todd5640]

@Nega Doge oh i seen it and i think loyalist version of Argel Tal or a different and bigger version of daemon Argel would be cool as a new major mini

[@frycia99]

Why didn't Magnus just leave the Crusade after the council?

[@TheAmberKing]

Hell yeah, our commissioned artwork is on a Majorkill video!

[@majorkill]

Extremely boss artwork - good call

[@TheAmberKing]

@@majorkill Thank you brother, Thibault the artist is incredible! We both hoped the community would enjoy it too, especially as the first representation of the Council of Nikea. If you guys like his work, check out the link in the videos description!

[@IudexAlexandyr]

Both of you are fucking amazing at what you do!

[@henrykur2860]

The Amber king literally has the Magnus the Red ‘Council of Nikea’ speech voice acted on his Magnus video! It’s awesome!

[@ao1778]

@@TheAmberKing I literally just finished watching your video on Magnus the Red. Amazing stuff!

[@SmolShorkess]

I think the emperor blocking the thousand sons from psychic powers was stupid it’s like blocking the space wolves from idiocy or Gulliman from tax returns

[@robertnelson9599]

Or Perty from building things.

[@JonAntipasSubayno]

​@@robertnelson9599 The Emperor does that

[@gustavogutierrez6568]

@@robertnelson9599 he already did that

[@alimac5926]

@@gustavogutierrez6568 no shit

[@nb6525]

Guillman from tax returns 😂😂

[@macshadow1150]

The whole issue with the Council is that everyone made their votes while almost none od them knew about Chaos. For example if Mortarion knew earlier what is the final goal of his dad he would remain loyal, simmiliar case with Alpharius, while Magnus and his sons would much more wary of reckless use of their abilities. Both Magnus and the Emperor had good intentions, but everyone screwd up more or less causing this mess

[@xenoblad]

I guess the secrecy was to protect it from chaos finding out, but Big E didn’t know that chaos knew the whole time.

[@robertnelson9599]

@@xenoblad It's implied Big E kept Chaos a secret because learning about Chaos would corrupt some people.

[@natashamcD]

@@xenoblad the Emperor knew.

[@MrFredstt]

@@robertnelson9599 It's understandable, I think. Big E knew just how dangerous Chaos is. And, as the reader, we all know how dangerous it is and how easily Chaos can corrupt people. So, I think his biggest fear was making them known to his sons and that opening the door for their curiosity to delve deeper into it. For example, knowing the character of Magnus, could you say with 100% confidence that he wouldn't immediately dive into the warp to study the Chaos Gods immediately after the Emperor tells him about their existence?

[@nonoun9619]

Alpharius was convinced by the kabal so I think they still would have turned

[@trimeerious4349]

Getting a video about how each of the pre heresy ( still loyal, yet keeping to their character ) primarchs would react to the power of being in Guillimans current situation would be pretty cool.

[@Voltboy1449]

THE CRUSADE RESUMES

[@Kobble03]

Emperor be with you, the crusade endures!

[@AdeptKing]

I think most of them would have reacted pretty violently. Guilliman is one of the more reasonable ones and he was fuming.

[@theaussieperspective]

I saw your comment on his most recent video and you claimed it’s more than 10 you’ve commented on so I decided to fact check. You weren’t wrong 😂

[@ianyoder2537]

I'm not in the "Magnus did nothing wrong" camp. Mal intent and Mal actions are not the same but both result in a bad outcome. However, I would like to point out the irony that the emperor and Malcadore are the most powerful psychic users in the empirium, and they're telling every one else not to use psychic powers. Not to mention the concerning imbalance of power it creates.

[@perkele9994]

the emperor had full right to dictate banning psychic usage because he is as old as humanity itself, has studied the warp for god knows how long and is fully aware of the massive danger the warp poses, the emperor falling to chaos is quite literally impossible.

[@officialbenkenobi6618]

It’s not an irony tbh more of a testament on how dangerous the warp is that the oldest and most powerful psyker in human history is banning using warp fuckery says a lot

[@ianyoder2537]

@@perkele9994 I get that, but he's still picking and choosing who is and is not ok with very little explanation as to why. He let the rune priests continue with no reason given.

[@tau-5794]

The Thousand Sons had also been summoning daemon familiars for decades by this point and thought that they could control them. They used their powers for even the most mundane tasks like cleaning their weapons instead of doing it manually, and Magnus had made a straight up pact with Tzeentch which is why he lost an eye.

[@ZergMeTaSWORM]

@@perkele9994 i think the real issue is telling the second/third strongest psycher inn existence (not 100% who was stronger between malcador and magnus) to not use his power and not exxplain what and why he shouldn t do it was the crucial mistake. id understand the corrupting powers of the warp but to someone so in tunne with it he needed to know about it. he needed to know that out there lurk beings who only want to take control and manipulate others. if he understood what he was facing probably magnus would have taken it much better and complied much easier to the edict.

[@kylegraves8043]

Fun fact that's group of space wolves that fought that aspect of chaos were only two, a rune priest and Bjorn. The rune priest was knocked out instantly by using his true name that it ripped out of the skjald's memories but got fucked up by Bjorn because when he tried to use the name it got from the skjald it didn't work because the skjald messed up the translation of Bjorn's name and kept calling him bear. Always liked that bit of lore because it was one of the first times Bjorn fucked up a deamon that should have killed him instantly and actually forced it to run away screaming because he literally carved a anti-chaos rune in its chest, and it's funny because it kept calling him bear and was wondering why nothing was happening.

[@xenoblad]

😂 being saved because you have a goofy Scandinavian name.

[@kylegraves8043]

@@xenoblad it was one of those funny moments I'm the lore because at first Kasper had a translator device so he could communicate with the fenrisians but the Leman never had their language added to the system so that the space wolves could speak their language during battle without anyone really knowing what they were saying because it would sound like a bunch of gibberish. Kasper had to put together a working translation on the fly using a bunch of different tribal languages the imperium had already encountered and it was still incomplete even the deamon using him and putting the ability to speak and understand the language still messed up sometimes. It was so incomplete that the first space wolf he met was Bjorn, who shot him down so he had to go save him to make up for his mistake, and when he told Kasper his name the translator he had at the time told him that the name he was given was actually bear, so he spent the whole book calling him that and Bjorn never bothered to correct him until the end of the book after the burning of prospero.

[@gideonmele1556]

That is one of the most half-assed, bs reasons for a herohammer moment but hey, it’s 40k lmao

[@kylegraves8043]

@@gideonmele1556 you're not wrong but still more tolerable than half the things Mephiston has been able to do at least in my opinion and not nearly as much a herohammer moment as Bjorn fighting and wounding deamon primarch Magnus post interment because Magnus forgot he was a deamon space wizard almost on par with the Emperor.

[@Mathijsvand]

Fulgrim also didn't have a Librarius, because psykers are mutations and mutations are not "perfect enough" for the Emperor's Children. Same as aliens, but adapting your own Astartes's genes with alien genes is totally perfect!

[@TheWarmachine375]

Fulgrim was part of the pro-psyker faction in the Council of Nikea.

[@robertnelson9599]

Perturabo also banned librarians because he was too close-minded to add psykers into his battle plans.

[@TheWarmachine375]

@@robertnelson9599 Big oof since Magnus and Perturabo were best friends. They even bonded together when they explore around Terra during their visit.

[@blacktemplarhelbrecht]

@@TheWarmachine375 dude fulfrim wasn't friends with perturabo he was friends with ferris mannus

[@skeetsvar162]

@@blacktemplarhelbrecht 🤦‍♂️

[@mut-x8k]

Bruh the emperor could have easily saved magnes by just adding to the end of his speech “and now I will personally talk to magnes about the error of his ways” where he could have basically just told him that the ban on magic was just temporary and until it was lifted he could just lay low for a bit along with of course actual lecturing on why going to deep into warp was bad.

[@reptillianarmyy3891]

Literally this

[@inductivegrunt94]

Possibly the worst mistake the Emperor made. It should really have been a punishment for Magnus and not Psykers as a whole. It was one of the biggest reasons why Magnus joined the heresy after all. Punish Magny Magic and not his bois and other Psykers.

[@michealball1896]

Well, the biggest reason was kinda being called a liar, then being attacked and killed. Would piss me off to honestly.

[@Kareszkoma]

It's a big f u for every Astarte who was fighting for humanity in the great crusade, and those who knew them or have been influenced by them. Psychic Space Marines fought just as hard as the rest, sometimes even risking more, but in this council they have been shamed and dishonored as wrong-doers. This dishonor also brings doubt to all who liked them or fought aside them, have been saved by such. That whatever they achieved, the honor of it, could be taken away in a moment on the whim of a Primarch or the Emperor, based on silly politics. While most Astarte had nothing in their life, but lived for the Great Crusade. It also sends a message to Astropaths and generally psychers in the Imperium, that they are second class citizens. This, was a huge mistake. Especially, because it speaks against the general feeling of what is just and right for most people. The council also projects the image, that in important decisions only the Primarchs, their legions and the Emperor's word counts. While this later on can seriously impact citizens, or lead to the full on outlawing of psychers. Normal citizens, army soldiers or generals experience was not listened to. Even thou they might've been saved by Astarte, or could've been healed by a Biomancer. Overall, the Council of Nikea was a big mistake.

[@twenty-fifth420]

I feel like people in the real world rely too much on ‘punishment’ for reformation of crime, rather then considering ‘rehabilitation’. What if Magnus was punished? He might still turn traitor anyway depending on the punishment. It isn’t rocket science, the future would be so much flux, Kairos might as well smoke new drugs to try and chill out to pick one good one. Magnus was the model, sure, but the Librarius Project was also founded by the Great Kahn and he wasn’t on a trial. (If anything, the Emperor kind of forgot about him, which would be in character, I guess.) Magnus needed to be in a room, with the Emperor or a high tier psyker like Malcador, and be isolated in a huge training arc and if there is any hint of corruption of possession, that bolter is ready just for you. But that did not happen. I don’t think a punishment is fitting if rehabilitation is possible, and considering 2/3rds of the Founders of the Librarius Project stayed loyal, it is logical. The Council was a witch hunt, both figuratively and literally. Morty had some good arguments, but he would have had an even better argument if the Emperor steelmanned his argument and explained “actually what you fought were Khornate cultists, one of the four factions of the chaotic primordial forces (doesn’t have to use god, just stretch the truth a bit.)” That would sway his argument and not necessarily persecute Magnus. With the same breath, he could then also say “Psychic powers are not inherently demonic and need to be thoroughly trained.” but of course, that is too much hindsight for hypocritical dad written with god precognition by over half a dozen to dozen writers. So yeah, might be too much.

[@TheGoodLuc]

If I were Emperor, I would punish Magnus but not psykers; the Librarium should have been preserved. I would take Magnus to Terra, to study and to make him learn some common sense.

[@natashamcD]

Except punishment of Magnus alone wasn't an option. The trial was not focused on what to do with Magnus, but what to do with psyckers. When the overwhelming majority of your military leaders are either strongly against psyckers or don't have much of a problem with them going away, even the Emperor has to go with the popular opinion. So it's not a mistake to do what's necessary. You can't even call it a mistake for the Emperor not to trust Magnus and not tell him about his plans in more detail. He didn't fully trust him because he knew that Magnus had been influenced by Chaos. The only mistake (by definition) was Magnus to refuse to listen to his father and stay away from Chaotic powers. The biggest mistake was his arrogance.

[@lsynno]

Fun fact. Behind the scenes Horus deployed Jaghatai Khan far away to stop him speaking at Nicea.

[@Channel-23s]

Big E had a great opening to tell or warn them about daemons but stayed silent so much foresight but couldn’t see the damage it could cause having his sons in the fog wonder if any son asked why he didn’t tell them or if he was ever gonna do so

[@ZergMeTaSWORM]

Id argue telling only magnus was enough. while all are some degree of psykers magnus is literally the second or thirrd strongest one in the galaxy. even if he somehow obeyed the council he was like a beacon for warp entities. i think it would have been nearly impossible for him to avoid the warp. he needed to know so he could protect himself from it.

[@Channel-23s]

@@ZergMeTaSWORM yeah if he knew then the Webway would still be intact and Magnus would be a loyalist and Big E wouldn’t be on the throne too

[@Channel-23s]

@Red Hawk Yeah that and Lorgar was the slowest one turning planets and was given a worst warning granted humiliation and burning down a evacuated city still hurts even the act was condemned by leman Russ and others. But I think Magnus was given more warnings and chances then Lorgar now in the present Lorgar won and was true about Big E being a god and 4 other evil gods who now have his attention and worship biggest mistake not talking to Lorgar behind closed door which would’ve cleared the air and stopped the downward spiral but only if Erebus was stopped or Lorgar staying as a loyalist.

[@AAhmou]

@@Channel-23s If anything, it'd be Magnus who'd be stuck on the Throne (at least until the Webway project is finished).

[@shamainebest4031]

@@ZergMeTaSWORM Second strongest.

[@PelinalDidNothingWrong]

I'll stand by the fact Mortarion was one of the saner Primarch's during the Council of Nikaea. He came and said what he needed before sitting back down and shutting up

[@IRdatank]

The Emperor is playing a video game with the universe where he is on attempt 50 and has made adjustments with each playthrough. How did he know to bring a primarch back to Terra to reinforce the homeworld, right before the Heresy. All this when humanity was seemingly approaching a golden age with the nearest enemies a galaxy away.

[@Marvolo14]

At this point I'm expecting some sort of alternate reality or time travel twist in the final Siege of Terra book. There's been odd discrepancies in the way the siege has played out compared to established lore, and that plus the stuff going on with the Yellow King in 40K, and the glimpses of other realities in 40K books seems to be setting something up. Plus the last Siege of Terra book said in no uncertain terms that Terra's ecosystem and food and water supplies are completely dead from radiation, and that there probably isnt enough uncontaminated raw material to even restore the planet and keep humans alive. That's a pretty big break with established lore about Terra's history.

[@fenriders7008]

Are we all ready for 40k to get the AoS treatment? That’s where I see it going.

[@giftedmonster5293]

Psykers bad! Said by Galaxy's strongest psyker. Everyone else: ???

[@teal_m_101]

'Warp fuckery for me, not for thee.'

[@giftedmonster5293]

@@teal_m_101 Eldar thots only for the Emperor.

[@TheWarmachine375]

In the Roboutian Heresy, Magnus kept himself quiet the whole time during the Council of Nikea and never said anything stupid at all while the heads of the pro-psyker faction make logical facts, culminating the decision of the Librarius not being banned.

[@NP3GA]

He has made a video about the reboutian heresy if you want to check

[@andrewdo2796]

I always laugh that Magnus worse enemy in the Council was himself. Like I believe in canon a lot of white scars blame Magnus for not shutting the fuck up during this.

[@ГригорийГ-ч4н]

​@@andrewdo2796 Yeah, White Scars representative Targutai Yesugei said pretty much this in canon. "If only Magnus had common sense we would have won".

[@TheGoodLuc]

And Mortarion respected that; he was angry but made peace with that, and got Sisters of Silence to help him. Leman, though...

[@NP3GA]

@@ГригорийГ-ч4н man I love the white Scars

[@guardsmenedwin6213]

Part two on Erda. I’m never stopping.

[@JoshdaKnight]

You’ve come so far dude. From publicly beating Timmy to actually trying to comply with KZbin by flogging him in private. So proud to be one of your viewers.

[@TheWarmachine375]

"Many have spoken of the evils of the Psyker, the Sorcerer and the Witch; that the art is intrinsically wrong simply because it can be used to perform terrible deeds. I say that one must instead consider that this evil is a projection of the fears of the many who do not understand the possibilities that await Mankind if we can tame the dangers of this art. That it is this multitude of lesser sins that is the real issue for this Council." - Magnus the Red's defense during the Council of Nikea

[@dudeboydudeboy-zj8kd]

Lore on Imperial Navy, High Lords, and Ecclesiarchy please

[@TheWarmachine375]

Magnus the Red: "If I am guilty of anything it is the simple pursuit of knowledge." Big E: "No. You're guilty of consorting with The Indecisive Mollusk and you're in for a spanking!"

[@thepunisher3640]

So did the emperor

[@TheWarmachine375]

5:23 Big E should have brought along the Sisters of Silence and Custodes so that they will ensure no Chaos party crashers during the Council of Nikea.

[@wilkor7643]

Have you listened to the whole video? Both of them where there with Sisters shielding SW for Magnus to not notice them

[@KCUFyoufordoxingme]

Custodes generally suck against fighting chaos without protection and help and take huge losses when they deal with them on their own.

[@the_lichemaster]

Perturabo was probably more neutral as Magnus was one of the few Primarchs he got on with.

[@vincentadultman6226]

Yeah, Perty is not a primarch to impede on progress of any kind, though he himself preferred the engineering route

[@HenchmenNo616]

Added salt to the wound: Yes Perturabo and Magnus got on with each regarding their stance on knowledge. The Emperor had commissioned Perturabo to build him a grand amphitheatre. Pert didn't know what for but did as he was told. Then the trial happened. Not sure if it says whether or not Magnus felt betrayed by Perty

[@vincentadultman6226]

@@HenchmenNo616 I feel the writers modelled Emps to be a mix of Chuck Norris and Cinderella's stepmom

[@robertnelson9599]

Perturabo actually banned librarians because he was too close-minded to add psykers into his battle plans.

[@TheWarmachine375]

@@vincentadultman6226 No wonder why Big E is a bipolar

[@DarkApostleNoek]

Think the best way would be Psykers can do their stuff but it has to be the way Rune priest and Stormseerers do it. Then have Magnus come with him to help build the Webway and keep him in the palace until it is finished while explaining everything. The palace's wards would keep the Chaos Gods out and by the time they are done Magnus would know fully what was going on.

[@vincentadultman6226]

Sorry, this is 40k, and the Big E is so poorly written his gimmicks are as fractured as his soul, no way he would do something this sensible. In all seriousness, the great crusade was all the big E cared about. He nuked a city because Lorgar couldn't keep up the pace, there's no way he'd give any Primarch a timeout, slowing an entire arm of great crusade. Kurze and Magnus both needed timeouts

[@DarkApostleNoek]

@@vincentadultman6226 unless that timeout was for another purpose, like he pulled Dorn to work on Terra and I would have him get Magnus to help him on the Webway. He could always have his Captains support the less psychic Legions and have the Chaplains and Custodes monitor/approve their time to be used.

[@vincentadultman6226]

@@DarkApostleNoek he was wayyy too secretive about the webway to ask for help on it, and Magnus' having friends on the other side likely didn't help.

[@DarkApostleNoek]

@@vincentadultman6226 Do you want to reread what I first put. Cause while Magnus is there he couldn't be contacted by Chaos as the Wards kept them out, and since he doesn't leave until it is done then no worries there.

[@vincentadultman6226]

@@DarkApostleNoek that's all swell, but the Emperor didn't trust any of his sons enough to let them know of the project, likely due to paranoia, I just tacked the Chaos bit as the possible reason he wouldn't let Magnus specifically in there, given his prior contact with unknown warp entities

[@TheWarmachine375]

"If you treat with the Warp, Magnus, I shall visit destruction upon you. And your Legion's name will be struck from the Imperial records for all time" - the Emperor of Mankind when threatening Magnus the Red to obey or he will get the spanking

[@TheWarmachine375]

"Woe betide he who ignores My warning or breaks faith with Me. He shall be My enemy, and I will visit such destruction upon him and all his followers that, until the end of all things, he shall rue the day he turned from My Light." - the Man-Emperor of Mankind's declaration at Nikaea

[@alexanderdro6304]

but im totally not a god you guys

[@venomstar6789]

act like a god then say he not

[@seanjones2524]

I quite like that whilst Mortarion hated psychers and campaigned for the use of librarians and psychic ability to be banned throughout the legions, Typhon was a psycher and secretly despised Mortarion for forcing him to suppress his psychic ability.

[@Tankstar_]

Video Idea: How many Timmy’s would it take to kill each Primarch?

[@teal_m_101]

How much blood does it take to drown a primarch?

[@unnamed1613]

During the disput between Leman and Magnus over the liberary, Lorgar also wanted to burn the liberary down via orbital bombartment, since it contains "heretical" books and knowledge, but since he is the only Primarch Lorgar was on good terms with, he didn´t want to offend Magnus. He probably also didn´t want to be in the crossfire between two of the most powerfull Legions at the time, with the Space Wolve beeing literaly created by the Emperor to fight other Astartes if neccesary and the Thousand Sons beeing able to whipe out most Legions with their immense psykic powers and pet daemons.

[@dumbidea1007]

Or he just was smart enough to say let’s talk it out instead of act like children’s. Memes aside lorghar was actually one of the only sensible ones

[@sorufa888]

As a Space Wolf fan, that Space Wolf who threw Ahriman under the bus was Othur Wyrdbane and he’s my least favorite character in all of SW

[@CiroAngelus]

Truth. There is no honor in lies or betrayal

[@deathkorpsinfantryman1898]

@@CiroAngelus have you ever thought maybe the space wolves could write into action some sort of honor code that forbids and condemns certain types of behavior like hypocrisy? offering swift punishments for things like betrayal, dishonesty, disloyalty, etc. just an idea

[@sirdanthechipwright821]

Agreed. Love the wolves, but that bit hurt. Ahriman was such a great guy and Wyrdmake kicked him in the balls. Not cool

[@CiroAngelus]

@@deathkorpsinfantryman1898 I like to believe not all Space wolves are like Othur, instead I imagine the Runepriest as a kind of “tamed” Psyker so to speak. The problem with the thousand sons is they were too careless. Space Wolves value honor and the glory of the fight, however I can understand why they don’t like Psykers, there’s no honor in getting c*m blasted by a lightning bolt. I think as time went on the Rune priests felt shame for what happened with the thousand sons, After all they really aren’t that different. Me personally? I think it’s stupid what happened at prospero, the wolves never should have attacked the thousand sons when their orders were to capture them and Magnus. As for hypocrisy, yes the wolves are very bad hypocrites especially the rune priests. Should there be punishment for dishonorable deeds? Absolutely.

[@deathkorpsinfantryman1898]

@@CiroAngelus agreed. also in hindsight maybe the emperor could have sent the white scars instead of the wolves, seeing as magnus had a much more friendly relationship with the khan. i mean sending the self professed "emperor's executioner'' and his legion who happen to hate the very people they've been sent arrest was bound to send the wrong message.

[@Tom_E_S.]

I remember inquiring if a video on the Council would be a decent idea back in the chat of one of your Total War Warhammer streams a couple of months back. I think you really nailed why I wanted to see a lore explanation on it, as I wanted to learn more about it. It seemed like such a pivotal point, if not THE pivotal point that started drawing the lines in the sand amongst the eventual factions of the Horus Heresy, and clearly demonstrated the rising tensions between the Primarchs. Quality video as usual Majorkill, thanks for the great content!

[@TheWarmachine375]

8:57 The said parable that Big E knew because He was there and was upset Magnus twisted it to suit his narrative.

[@efaristi9737]

Well, maybe if the emperor had informed his sons of his project and that it would protect psychers against the worst aspects of the warp, things wouldn't have gone so horribly. Sure, the chaos gods would have heard of it but they heard of it anyways so that wouldn't have put it in way more danger.

[@grayrook8637]

I get Hawk Boy and the Nerd Primarch (no the other one) liking Psykers. They are a Super Saiyan and Wizard so that tracks. But The Khan surprised me, not the first Psyker I think of. Actually cool video cause he still does not get near enough love: why Jaghatai Khan is a beast.

[@justinLaw5]

Well the Khan was against the imperial truth since the beginning and he argued with Big E and Malcador about it, if not for Sanguinius convincing him that his voice could help keeping the stormseers as they were he wouldn't have bothered on participating or tried to pull Horus to Magnus's side

[@lolbots686]

@@justinLaw5 that and even before the inperium jaghatais chogorisian culture had psykers called storm seers which cautioned the use of such powers else daemons cause shenanigans Tbh i think something cool for jaghatai is that he unlocks his psychic powers as a sort of shaman, capable of more thoroughly banishing daemons,unleashing lightning and such. Might be cool if he can make like steeds of lightning

[@fenrirsrage4609]

Honestly the Council of Nikea was a mistake and honestly when it popped up in the TTS Voxcast with Custodisi's cold fury on it was a great.

[@dumbidea1007]

Truth I remember that one I totally agree with the angry custode tho it is still weird to see an angry custode toward the emperor

[@maximusd26]

i'm sure GW really thought they pulled a massive big brain moment with the council name lmao

[@covenawhite4855]

The Council of Nicea in the Christian Church was where religious books were either accepted or banned from the bible. Banned bible stories are called Christian apocrypha books. The Books accepted into the Bible are canonized books.

[@ravenguard0098]

Wonder how this would all go down if the thousand sons where like Ahriman(pre-heresy) in how they approach the warp since Ahriman believes in the saying"Always the Master Always the Student" i regards to the warp. From what I have read(really been a while so I coud be wrong) Ahriman likes to do simple/trivial things manually e.g cleaning his weapons by hand whilst his brother legionaires tend/prefer to use warp powers in every aspect of their lives even in trivial things.

[@theosebes9975]

The real Council of Nicaea was epic as well.

[@TheKingDain]

*Arianism exist* Council: Sounds like heresy if you ask us.

[@Dimitriterrorman]

i cant believe the emperor choose the side with more primarchs instead of the side with sanguinius

[@nobodyimportant5417]

I'd like to see you do a video on the shared events, allegorical or not, between the 40k universe and history. The writers love to borrow, steal, and parody real life events, and the council of Nikea is one of those moments with tongue and pen firmly in cheek.

[@covenawhite4855]

The Council of Nicea in the Christian Church was where religious books were either accepted or banned from the bible. Banned bible stories are called Christian apocrypha books. The Books accepted into the Bible are canonized books.

[@novusnocturnm]

There is a dnd quote I saw that used Magnus as the example of why wisdom and intelligence are separate stats. That said, Magnus did nothing wrong.

[@TheLaluciDaniel]

Basically the Emperor being a dingus. Like, DUDE, did you learn nothing from the time of the witch burnings?

[@kevlonk]

The Trial of Magnus was, in my opinion, the beginning of the end of the Imperium as the Emperor had envisioned it.

[@2SSSR2]

Fun fact, Council of Nicaea is based on the real one that happened in 325 and which was important as it discussed many of the original canonical laws of the then united Christian Church.

[@bryalogicalgaming5817]

Shamed that the actual Council voted against the cool mind powers as well. Think of all the cool things we could have done with them until now.

[@kodak5678]

great video majorkill

[@MedievalFolkDance]

There were two voices in the council that you'll never get to hear & they were the sole reason why the use of psychic force was to be abolished. The names were removed from records before they were even on the council & no one can remember them after.

[@leiferickson1494]

*What did he mean by this?*

[@MedievalFolkDance]

@@leiferickson1494 "He" is me & what was said was meant. The rest is on you.

[@flabbergaster1011]

@@leiferickson1494 hes talking about the 2 missing primarchs, the deleted ones, tho idk if they were present in this time or got erased later

[@MedievalFolkDance]

@@flabbergaster1011 They're not missing. Just redacted.

[@leiferickson1494]

@@flabbergaster1011 Had a feeling that’s what was meant, but it just seemed too out-of-left-field for me to leave unquestioned

[@kingarthur7051]

Always hated what they did to magnus

[@vinegar3617]

"Where do you work out?" "At the librarium"

[@wampumscout]

lmfao you killed me with December..was not expecting that, laughed way to hard at that

[@jeanvonestling7408]

the moment in TTS podcast when Uriah lists all religious-themed things in the Imperium and stressess "COUNCIL OF NICEA" was one of the funniest things in TTS. Like - how can it happen by accident?

[@Subject_Keter]

Uriah inflicted emotional damage on the Big E.

[@stripeybag6977]

You already know we've got an AU somewhere for this event being the division point of which legions turn traitor. Also obligatory asking Majorkill for a Mini of the late Old Man of Armageddon. I have asked enough my phone auto spells it now.

[@blurry_face_exe60]

The Emperor: Awesome Badass Psyker Army < Wolf wolf wolves wolf wolves

[@karvenman]

A video about how you would continue and end the ynnari books would be nice

[@omarsalinas8121]

Thank you for all the content you post.

[@feralprocessor9853]

Big tall read dude with magic powers

[@wiegl8596]

Welcome to todays episode of "How much further can the barrel of Majorkill's Lasgun bend before it touches the shelf".

[@Masonicon]

What keeps me from buying to *magnus did nothing wrong* that much was: his robbing of safe FTL for humanity are more of butterfly effect from Navigator's greed(by making Emperor of Mankind refuse to tell even his sons webway project)

[@PelinalDidNothingWrong]

Day off from work + New Majorkill video = Perfect Afternoon

[@Maxsmack]

Big E should have kept Magnus close to him after the council, and had him start training for the webway project. It’s always perplexed me that the God Emperor of Mankind’s kryptonite is Father son time.

[@mitchellcleveland6182]

"The bag was fumbled" I'm so going to use that

[@jarradbanigan6354]

I like Magnus (mostly from TTS) and I really can't wait to get to his stories. My two cents on the council was that it should have been more a closed affair, with the emperor revealing his true plans to a select few like magnus and sanguinius and maybe even Morty, this would keep magnus (who would see the complexity of the webway and it might humble him), Morty would see that the emperor was trying to destroy the evil gods that wanted to screw everyone (slanessh literally) and stay loyal. Leeman might also see that psykers aren't necessarily evil.

[@utubrGaming]

The Council, convened by the Emperor Constantine, was the first Ecumenical Council, discussing the views of Bishop Arius and the nature of the Trinity, notably between the substance and relationship of the Father and the So- Oh wait, not THAT Council of Nikaea... (Note for others: The Council of Nikaea is a reference to the Council of Nicaea, among the most foundational edicts in the doctrine of Christianity, where the essence of the Son was considered equal to the Father, rather than Jesus as the son was subordinate to the Father. That latter view, of Arianism, is among the first heresies, aka teachings of religious error)

[@tomtrench4232]

The part about the Skjald was the first ever Warhammer book I read and it still is cemented as a favorite. (Prospero Burns)

[@In.Gy.]

Leman's entire argument during the Council: Magnus the Red? Pfft. More like Magnus the Nerd. 😂😂😂

[@Robarath]

"Brought back to Terra for a Mighty Spanking." Hahaha

[@VengeanceMkII]

All could have been resolved had Big E just shuffled Magnus into a room privately and told him to clam up but I guess a near divine being just expects too much out of his almost divine children.

[@guillemgarcia8021]

Make a video about what happened on Monarchia

[@IMASAURUS1996]

The Emperor should have ordered the 1000 suns be sent back to prospero but had ordered Magnus back to Terra if Magnus was on Terra when Horus fell Magnus would never have had the opportunity to perform the ritual sacrifices which aloud him to discover Horus's betrayal in the first place.

[@GreaterGrievobeast55]

Well that assumes the emperor knew horus would betray the imperium and magnus would try a ritual to learn about it

[@Constantine-316]

My favorite part of the Council was when Constantine laughed his ass out when Nicholas punched Arius right in the kisser...wait wrong council of nicea

[@Diegoaub]

It’s crazy how the council now sells exercise clothing

[@HandsomeP3t3]

This thumbnail is fire dude :) love it

[@minigree8468]

Artefacts/treasures of Vulkan update and speculation on what they could be would be pretty cool ngl.

[@davidwooden3878]

MAJORKILL! I for one think that the skald Kasper Ansbach Hawser, also known as Ahmad Ibn Rustah deserves a video! The story reminds me a little bit of "The Thirteenth Warrior" by Michael Critchon

[@Typhoon-77]

Once again an amazing video MV, Which primarch had the best weapon? Or war tactics during the great crusade and Horus Heresy?

[@azkrouzreimertz9784]

Lorgars legion. they had the best weapon, Faith.

[@dumbidea1007]

Depend in loyalist Magnus because against the traitors it’s super effective against anyone the lion

[@dumbidea1007]

Depend in loyalist Magnus because against the traitors it’s super effective against anyone the lion

[@AzraelSoulHunter]

Remember all of you. Magnus on his planet had goddamn restaurants run by Psykers and were using the Warp for it and Thousand Sons even used the Warp to clean their guns. They needed some restraint.

[@NobleWolf]

I would love it if Magus the Red returned to the setting in a huge way, maybe to help the Imperium or fuck it up, or both. I would love a story of Magus turning against chaos and doing his own thing too.

[@SirEggo2412]

It would be great for the noble shard of magnus to rejoin him and make him a conflicted character it would do the impossible and make a daemon primarch in current setting likable

[@TemplarBlack.]

Not to mistake with the council of Ikea, which was the meeting of the greatest mind of our generation to find out how to build those FUCKING furnitures.

[@ald155]

Do when chaos undivided agreed on something

[@nate742]

The Khan was actually not present at the Council, and it was his Chief Stormseer Yesugei who represented him.

[@stevieturner9338]

I loved how when Magnus tgought it was hopeless. All the chief librains got up. Crossed the floor and went and spoke. Montarion really hated that.

[@YourHighnessIV]

Is there enough comments or even regards to do a video on how the main higher characters such as big e, primarchs or even chapter masters reacting to the equivalents forms in chaos like big e and mortarion. And do you think big e could ever reverse such effects? Love the content mate keep up all the great work

[@Spooketti_]

Not to confuse with the council of IKEA, where it was debated how to furnish the imperial palace.

[@Flesh_Wizard]

Or the council of Nokia, where the Primarchs debated how to effectively call each other when they weren't busy

[@gc6096]

Last time I was this early the Word Bearers still praised and worship the Big E.

[@Degenevesting]

Right when I decide I need a calendar, Majorkill sneaks in clutch.

[@whos-your-mate]

My 400k hoody and Ts arrived today! Very happy, sweet merch 👌👍

[@scientistsupreme5211]

The emperor was an idiot. He's made decisions just as bad if not worse than Magnus such as keeping an all-powerful C'tan on Mars that might one day be discovered by the Mechanicus maybe causing another civil war or worse might've been responsible for the dark age of technology. Yet Magnus just wanted to use his powers to their fullest which could've actually helped the imperium i.e. see Dornian heresy instead just messed up the whole ruling and blamed Magnus. An alternative would be to have the librarius, but significantly reduce the powers they used, and have a psyker embargo on Magnus and the thousand sons instead.

[@Tony_primeiro]

I cant watch any more Warhammer channels this guy is just too good

[@Aaaa-fw3sj]

All these recent videos are all exactly where im at in the books, pretty convenient 🤣

[@deltanaruto100]

I wish the emperor would’ve said he’d try to cure the blight instead. That small change and magnus would’ve been his. He’s a foolish child, but I can get behind protecting his gene children. Expecially since they brought his shards together.

[@nerdyshyguy23]

I do love this. I wish we had more vulkan/salamander lore. Best guys don’t have the most lore.

[@Masso-gy9yu]

Could do a video on the age of the Primarchs. I know people say they where infants when they landed on their worlds but if that's the case then how could Conrad climb through the ground so much to get to the surface. You know what I mean?

[@Perlavoine]

Damn my man Magnus must've really fucked up on his BJORKELLUNG to be called by the Council of Ikea

[@STVODVIL]

A bouncing wall of voluptuous peaks and curvaceous seats with exquisite visages. Yeah tis been over a fortnight since such times.

[@NobodyDungeons]

Its important to remember Magnus isn't dumb he's just arrogant and prideful. Really of all the primarchs that should have been informed of the dangers of chaos it should have been Magnus given his immense psychic powers.

[@Channel-23s]

Ahh yess episode 1000 of Magnus being told to stop fucking around with the WARP and instead of listening ruined any plans of better travel and Big E walking around without the Imperium going dark.

[@taylorabayomi]

I really like hearing the recording cough idk why.

[@bryceneuberger3460]

Can you cover the lore around the emperor planning the Heresy

[@MrKOLCOO]

Imperium: What do you have there Leman Russ? LEMAN Russ: A rune priest...

[@leerich2479]

Anyone who doesn't have a Majorkill calendar should seriously consider investing in one. They are very nice indeed 👍

[@EIVWPO]

Lion just doesn't give a single fuck about rules. He just does the job. Such a bad ass