The CRAZIEST Judge Call I've EVER Taken!

[@MBTYuGiOh]

what if you wanted to take your garbage homebrew onto duelingbook but pole position said nuh uh thats an illegal loop

[@LordJacobGinsberg1st]

Next tmt

[@LordJacobGinsberg1st]

?

[@4x_AE]

ily jamal rosenberg

[@Blackguy610]

@@LordJacobGinsberg1st He's already uploaded it.

[@unamusedrowlett6303]

I was just thinking you're probably sipping tea all smug because of this abomination XD

[@jaxel_ms1990]

The out to this board is physically fighting your opponent.

[@admontblanc]

summon trap eater, no more lock

[@JJSquirtle]

Jinzo finna entering side decks?

[@gabematamoros0707]

Does Nibiru out this shit?

[@DKQuagmire]

flipping the table also works ;)

[@lisaruhm6681]

Kaiju works.

[@TheDortmunderJungs]

We're all playing a childrens card Game while this guy is playing 9D Yugioh

[@szymekszwa1285]

His mind literally teleported into the 2135 format

[@AaronHeininger]

Lol it's not a childs card game cause children wouldn't be able to understand

[@asn1226]

@@AaronHeininger thats the joke.

[@asn1226]

People call it a "childrens" game while crap like this happens

[@shikicunt3442]

@@asn1226 its a maybe not achildren card game, but their target market is children, have you look in the anime? all kids.

[@drewtraveleroftheburningabyss]

Master Piss just wanted to show why all of his opponents are ANTS to him

[@defectivesickle5643]

*Doesn't show the 10 games where he got Ashed*

[@darklightmotion5534]

whait, what happened with trif?

[@lukidurer28]

@@defectivesickle5643 Left arm offering

[@defectivesickle5643]

@@lukidurer28 Ah yes, the card that removes your hand for cost

[@canislupus3655]

They're ANTS beneath his big BOOT

[@stormfrontDP]

Pole position is honestly the definition of broken Card design, not that its good or anything, but the fact that it leads to so many loops and illegal moves

[@YohananYGO]

The loop rule should send the card to the gy automatically and us be able to play ..

[@SuperSayianWarrior]

It used to because of the way mechanics worked, but then those got changed, so because by placing a card causes a continious effect to apply whoch leads to the loop, it becomes illgal to place that card, a simpler version is on the wiki using X head Cannon. So woth Shine palice, any monster with 19-2300 on field makes it illigal for x head to be on field if shine is face up and pole position. Though if an effect would randomly place X head on firld, say monster gate, then Pole would destroy itself since its causing that loop, since you must resolve as much as possible

[@haruhirogrimgar6047]

Tbf this seems like a pack filler card that the creator didn't think much about because it is a trash filler card. They didn't ask themselves "could someone make an infinite loop using this card in a 20 step combo?" Because like 99.9% of people we read the card and went "was this 2002 pack filler?"

[@H1_R3Z]

@@haruhirogrimgar6047 The thing is, it actually was 2002 pack filler (okay, 2004), back before players could just plop the multiple monsters on the field turn 1 that actually turn Pole Position into a problem card. It's not that the Konami employees didn't ask themselves if people could break it with a 20-step combo; it's that people legitimately couldn't because those 20-step combos didn't exist. It was fine for the era in which it was introduced, but so were Ancient Fairy Dragon, Ultimate Offering, and Vanity's Emptiness.

[@haruhirogrimgar6047]

@@H1_R3Z I was largely trying to defend the person who designed it since they had no reason to believe something like this could happen with the card.

[@SilverHyozanryu]

Pole position is the most unassuming card in the game's history.

[@pyroskullfist]

Could we make pole position not legal? Because how much it ruins the game, and causes loops?

[@Blaze_the_cat_]

pyroskullfist they could also just ban Pheniox blade

[@lunk2569]

@@pyroskullfist i thought it WAS banned. (That or it had a ruling that destroys the card to end the loop)

[@blazesona12]

@@Blaze_the_cat_ that would help nothing pole position needs to go away perminitely

[@fagocol98]

@@lunk2569 I think the new tournament rules say if a card be it activation/placement/effect start/cause a loop that cannot be resolved. The judge can just go take this card out and continue the duel

[@Koof009]

Bet you buddy has been practicing this board for weeks waiting for the moment to say to a judge "my opponent is attempting an illegal loop"

[@byssted]

Literally all Konami needs to do to make Pole Position stop creating loops is errata it to “highest ORIGINAL attack” but god forbid we deny the people their lööps

[@rairarku2964]

Honestly, the loop problem is pole position and ruling is the latest card placed causes loop. I find the best solution would be destroying pole in a pole loop, rather than making an errata.

[@matheusphillipevelozoamara3262]

I thought of making it decide the poli position target at the beginning of the turn and don't change it until next turn

[@espurrseyes42]

Highest ORIGINAL Attack or something that forces the effect to trigger ONE TIME per turn like: "At the start of you or your opponent's Main Phase 1, immediately after this effect resolves, the monster with the highest attack becomes unaffected by the effects of Spell Cards until the end of the turn. You can only use this effect of "Pole Position" once per turn."

[@My1xT]

What with monsters with an effect that sets their original atk? Aka how monsters with ? Atk originally worked

[@espurrseyes42]

@@My1xT Most cards that alter original attack are monsters, so aside from swapping the target of PP, this doesn't affect anything. And I think ? monsters are treated as having 0 ATK by default.

[@ilfisicobestiale8045]

Oponente: activate a card Him: you Will never reach the truth

[@firatd.monkey7330]

Him: Korega Requiem Da! Opponent: Wha-

[@kitaisuru]

Wha-

[@IKingRonin]

lol

[@reismagier7433]

Is this what people call A JOJO REFERENCE !?

[@xgongivittoya1931]

@Maruigi17 shut the fuck up

[@sigurdvickery3523]

Proof that Six Sams are capable of making litterally any board you can imagine.

[@admontblanc]

yh, unless you hit the Isolde 2nd eff with Ash, Imperm, Nibiru also outs this I think but without handtraps u just cri

[@austinhudson774]

Only if your opponent has literally no disruption

[@ich3730]

@@admontblanc "Just handtrap 4head" is the mindset that brought the game to where it is now...

[@jeremysnowden1286]

Doesn’t mean they are good

[@OsirusHandle]

@@admontblanc pretty sure they make appo as 5th summon so cant nibiru. maybe im wrong though. could imperm it obviously

[@iSearchYoutube]

I would have expected Pole Position to just be banned for the sake of the game

[@BaxsStudios]

Konami: why we just ban aleister and the link so pug. cant be summoned that would solve the problem

[@EJsGameplay]

I thought it was, how is it not?

[@mrsharpie7899]

@Light Revaan He wasn't suggesting that, he was saying that's what Konami would do. Remember Firewall Dragon?

[@nekoluxuria7721]

@@mrsharpie7899 yeah a lpt of cards got banned because of him until he himself finally got banned

[@krullachief669]

@Light Revaan Lol needlefiber says hi.

[@BladeYGO]

bruh that was INSANE. Loving the stream highlights from both you and Nadir as of recent!

[@defectivesickle5643]

This is the angriest I've ever been in Yugioh and I'm not even on the receiving end

[@Marcusjnmc]

why be angry, it's a free win, losing to a card played to make the opponent make an illegal move call judge & refer to the official tournament document

[@petermarschall3886]

@@garunixreborn2416 What is an "ido omega-lock"?

[@petermarschall3886]

@@garunixreborn2416 Yeah, I figured that much, I was curious about what it consisted of. Like what were the main pieces, that generated the lock.

[@admontblanc]

@@garunixreborn2416 that shit is wild af, but thankfully nearly impossible to pull off, and I think one of the reasons Beatrice is limited as using multiple gy dumps facilitate these boards

[@haloichigo1]

@@garunixreborn2416 That is crazy! How do you even pull off that field? Was it even consistent, because if it was then that is plainly nasty.

[@DeusLightning]

This clip just goes to show that Yu-Gi-Oh players are so gifted mentally at interactions that we can make any irrelevant card broken.

[@pedrohenriquecontente332]

Imagine trying to play YuGiOh and then Golden Experience Requiem locks you out of existence

[@nictay6180]

I honeslty wonder if playing this deck is worth it for all the judge calls he must have to make.

[@admontblanc]

it's not worth it cuz the dumbass combo dies to any conceivable ht ever made, except maybe gemini imps. he will steal some wins from no ht decks like endymion and some adamancipator decks but even that depends on a die roll win since I doubt this abomination can outplay either of those going second and still pull off a decent play

[@Balila_balbal_loki]

@@admontblanc The Combo is now posted on reddit and is caused by 1 isolde or the six sam link. The deck runs 3 called by the grave and has 12 empty spots for anything you would want in terms of handtraps.

[@MadRider2100]

@@Balila_balbal_loki any way I can still find that???

[@Liathrys]

Master Piss: "My chat is exploding", "help" Yeah how about no?

[@maxblum2052]

This Loop makes me physically angry

[@cdgames69]

It's things like this that make me glad the TCG just uses "refer to your head judge" for their rulings

[@Excellsion]

This has "The missile knows where it is" energy.

[@payne9682]

I feel like I'm stuck in an infinite loop of waiting for New Volcanic Support to arrive... Day 422 of waiting for New Volcanic Support to arrive

[@gowiththeflow363]

Payne 96 Konami can’t place down their Volcanic Support because it’d set off a loop. They’d be forced to give Flamvells, then Lavals, then Volcanic, repeat.

[@dracompb966]

I feel like I'm in an infinite loop here because you won't shut the fuck up

[@johnnywilson3071]

Why bother to comment on Payne if you don't like him. Honestly the game could do with a revamp to volcanics, they could come up with something spicy.

[@lorekeeper685]

@Mister Perfection here is payne's biggest fan as he stated

[@x_mage_x5282]

Imagine they never give volcanic support, then releases it after you passed away. That would be sad.

[@liviousgameplay1755]

There is no way this is consistent in any way shape or form Isolde: CAn I gEt a LoOP?

[@CeleTheRef]

in Magic if the game "crashes" (a loop that players can't or don't want to stop happens) the game ends in a draw. Yes, you can try to make one but it's not too easy.

[@ramz3119]

that sounds awesome tbh

[@empireyouth5791]

I should specify he is talking about loops caused by manual activating , if the loop is caused by an affect Player has the option to turn off loop can go as long as the player causing it wishes (assuming they don’t run out of time and all)

[@fernandobanda5734]

To add to this, this only happens to loops with triggered abilities. Continuous effects can never cause an infinite loop because Magic has layers that define when to apply each type of continuous effects and doesn't go back.

[@Solemhs]

Thats a 5Head strategy right there

[@malareon]

Imagine the person made this deck to troll duelingbook judges.

[@zachf.7854]

So glad the most recent rules make it so a judge can just say "Pole Position is the source of the loop, send it to the grave".

[@pokeballz9593]

the opponent was playing eldritch so he got what he deserved.

[@ChefDynamic]

Besides kaijus and kaiju-esque monsters, in theory if you could put 3 cards on board at the same time the lock would be broken because purgatrio would have 3200 atk. I can only think of cards that put 2 on the field at once (psy-frames, impcantations). Even if you could though, the shi en and apollousa stop that from happening pretty well it seems

[@traplover6357]

"This combo is one Isolde" Hmmmmmmmmm

[@dustinremington7791]

I thought there was a ruling that if an infinite loop that does not progress the state of the game happened, the card making it happen would be removed. So when Murakami played the spell, Pole position would go crazy and be removed because it is causing the infinite loop?

[@mattr791]

That is how things work today yes but that rule was only added in summer 2021 Pre 2021 if an action were to cause a loop you just weren't allowed to do that thing

[@thomaspaterson1354]

I really want to see that combo

[@blueqion9488]

The opponent could also summon a Danger! monster right? I mean it comes on the field randomly and through a game mechanic right?

[@Rotomington]

No. Since summoning the danger would create a loop, you get a game loss for causing a loop. If you missed, you can use the eff, but that's why Apollo is there

[@pyroskullfist]

The better way to explain pole position I’m forcing my opponent to not be able to play and stuck/force my opponent in a illegal loop.

[@waltercardcollector]

I wish the rule was that the card that caused the infinite loop always destroyed itself whenever there was an infinite loop.

[@javiergallego3466]

He just explained it actually does, but you would need a way to legally enter the loop

[@waltercardcollector]

@@javiergallego3466 I know that. What I meant was that I wish the card destroyed itself even if you manually did an action to enter the loop.

[@KD8_NotTheShoes]

Well the thing is that you cant attempt to cause a loop

[@waltercardcollector]

@@KD8_NotTheShoes I know. What I'm saying is that I wish that the rule was that if either player did something that caused an infinite unbreakable loop, the card or cards responsible for the loop would destroy themselves.

[@withersoul3480]

Walt Gottlieb even if that is how the game worked that just means in this case pot of extravagance would be destroyed since the game would consider that as starting an infinite loop. Then you still have the loop and an extra complicated rule

[@ruikirisame1744]

"why is pole position a card" i ask myself that with mystic mines all the time

[@THEFED682Bros]

Rui Kirisame don’t cry about mystic mine if you’re putting up 5 negates to prevent the other person from playing

[@ruikirisame1744]

@David Paul one spell that acts are a continuously negates everything you do? Yes. It's not the number of cards at play that matter, it's the annoyance factor. Village of the spell Caster is just as annoying too

[@ruikirisame1744]

@David Paul oh I'm so sorry

[@ydontubegray]

@@ruikirisame1744 But both cards are taken out by one twin twister with terraforming at 1. Pole position creates these broken loops when no negates occur. Mystic mine and secret village DOES NOT do what pole position can do. Paired up with they are easily outed the cards arent that bad. Getting dark ruler then evenly matched with a full board is just as bad, but NOT broken like pole position.

[@photonman0018]

@@ydontubegray not everyone runs twin twisters idiot

[@unknowed5048]

“Why make a board full of negates when you can lock your opponent out using game rules”

[@cameronwilkson2982]

It's not banned, but the rule change this caused is satisfying

[@GlitchyPikachu]

I love that Pole Position is at 3 with no restrictions at all

[@mushythezombehkiller]

The definition, absolutely, of wasting everyone's time.

[@Rizwaan122]

5:45 yh I've been playing samurais for years and I can say that board is most likely more consistent than you'd think

[@xxtortellini1016]

I’ll never understand why pole position isn’t banned. People never use it for it protection eff

[@gowiththeflow363]

xxtortellini Because shit like this never happens. I don’t think the guy playing even does it more than 3/20 games

[@xxtortellini1016]

Bruh The Person assuming he wasn’t lying when he said it was off an isolde I’d say rather consistent. And like I said it’s only ever used to create illegal loops. Where in the game does a card like that have a place

[@SleepyNPC1748]

@@xxtortellini1016 Wait, but doesn't he have to hard draw into pole position or am I missing something here?

[@SleepyNPC1748]

I mean you could theoretically make curious mill it and add it back with Gryphen but isn't that probably way too gimicky?

[@xxtortellini1016]

NightcoreXTobi it’s six sams do you really think they’re unable to search their own guys enough and then just saryuja draw into one?

[@Iosaef]

bro found a glitch in a manual card game

[@EmperialGamingTr]

Can the turn player summon trap eater on this board by sending the pole position to gy?

[@Killer-xc7wu]

Emperial gaming tr I think yes because the affect activates in hand.

[@Killer-xc7wu]

You first send the trap to gy and then special summon it

[@Killer-xc7wu]

But he had Apoulusa anyways

[@EmperialGamingTr]

Killer 333 trap eater is summon condition but sending is not cost so atempting to summon a monster with 1900 attack is legal or not

[@Killer-xc7wu]

I’m sorry my english isn’t that great but I think in that case atempting to summon trap eater would be legal because the summon does not directly „starts“ the loop

[@anthonycannet1305]

In Magic’s rule, a forced infinite loop results in a tie game

[@shadowgam3]

They should have gotten rid of Pole Position long ago.. It falls off radar cause people don't play it much. This Card reminds of an old joke my father once told me. Pete and Repeat went down to the lake. Pete fell in who was left? If U said Repeat. Then Once again, Pete and Repeat went down to the lake. Pete fell in who was left?

[@immeye9121]

Okay, this is not clickbait, this was really crazy

[@RangerTrader]

Pole position breaks and get sent to graveyard... there's no way a loop on your field refuses your opponent to play anything....

[@faradaybed7805]

There is actually, this one specifically, Pole Position doesn't get destroyed by game mechanics in this context

[@RangerTrader]

@@faradaybed7805 I highly doubt Konami allows a loop, that doesn't affect your opponents board, to stop your opponent from playing... an internal loop on your side of the field with no interaction to your opponents cards results in a break of the loop causing card, for the unaffected opponents card to resolve. Given that it is a rare circumstance, Pole Position has caused many problems, that results in the card leaving the field to allow play to resume.

[@ByzanQueen]

@@RangerTrader It was explained in the video: Pole Position (or any card which causes an infinite loop upon something else happening) only destroys itself if a mandatory effect that neither player has control over starts the loop, because a player isn't allowed to *deliberately* cause an infinite loop. So if some mandatory effect activated to place a card on the opponent's field, in that case yes Pole Position goes to grave. Since nothing did, the opponent is not legally allowed to place any card on the field that would trigger the loop

[@RangerTrader]

Naturally I would agree, but given that the loop has no interaction of the opponents card, e.g doesn't affect their side of the board in anyway... the infinite loop was created and used on the same side. Has no effect of the opponents. So the opponent can play all he wants, and given that a loop is caused by playing the game (realistically the guy is an arse for making the loop) then the reason for the loop breaks. Pole position creates so many loops, that a rule should be implemented that if a loop is created by adding one equip card to create the loop, then pole breaks...

[@withersoul3480]

YanJW4 you think that multiple rules need to be changed? Your argument basically boils down to let your opponent play the game. Yes it’s unfair but the entire game is. This loop is perfectly legal. If you think this is unfair keep in mind you can just use any cannon soldier like card and ftk

[@Sp0okeh]

can just add to the rules: Any player that created a condition for an infinite loop [intentionally or not] but wasn't the one that triggered it still gets a game loss.

[@tiltedtoast4852]

may i have some lööps

[@MonosEx]

Didn't Konami finally ruled that if Pole Position starts an infinite loop it blows up itself in every situation?

[@luminous3558]

I like to think that the guy who made pole position just wanted to make a cool flavorful card design but accidentally created a monstrosity that triggers most judges fight or flight response.

[@raptorheroz2919]

Not me coming back to see baby faced coder

[@Marcusjnmc]

this is really simple, player with the board set up a game state designed to win by means of sharking such as activating question while the opponent is looking at the grave, ie. creating a game state that leads the opponent to make an illegal action & so win by rules sharking, playing a card specifically to gain wins in such a manner is covered in the tournament document as an offense/something not allowed & punishable by a judge.

[@TheRMJQandA]

Doesnt win by sharking wins by not letting your opponent play unless you have kaiju or something like that similar to other flood gates that dont let you do things this this just creates an infinite loop which is illegal so your opponent cannot make that play. They basically have to pass scoop or have the kaiju/sphere mode/lava golem type cards

[@Marcusjnmc]

@@TheRMJQandA it garners wins by setting up an illegal situation for game advantage, given how the lock is setting up a situation the opponent can interact with but will create a broken game state by dong so, you can get dqed from a tournament for running cards purposed that way

[@TheRMJQandA]

Do you have any sources cuz ive never heard of this. But its bot forcing your opponent to play a card they just cant or it starts the loop so they can end their turn or play a kaiju or something.

[@Marcusjnmc]

@@TheRMJQandA it's in the official tournament rules doc as a catch all for people intentionally abusing interactions between tournament rules & cards by deliberately running cards to do so. Rather than the person who gets caught out by the card/rules interaction leading them to make an illegal action getting a game loss the infringement ends up on the person who included a card in their deck to create that situation.

[@TheRMJQandA]

Alright my final comment cuz you dont get it and im not wasting my time. This combo DOES NOT FORCE your opponent to do anything. Like i stated its like a floodgated that says your opponent cant do things but if they do is where the problem lies. IF THEY DO. I mean if you can provide a specific link to what your talking about ill read it and it may change my mind but from what i know what you are saying is incorrect.

[@BluFire29]

Six Samurai does a legal infinite loop to stop the opponent with an illegal infinite loop lmfao

[@ShineKami666]

This board isn't even hard to out, just summon trap eater 4head

[@HiImRainer]

I like how I'm not the only one that thought that

[@IKingRonin]

good luck running trap eater in your deck just for that one trap card.

[@yomireal7570]

@@IKingRonin twas a joke

[@dragullongblackfang8073]

or just simple ra sphere mode because duh

[@admontblanc]

@@IKingRonin tbf some decks could unironically side it if they hard lose to anti-spell, order, etc, trap eater is kind of an underrated out to floodgates, only emptiness stops it

[@solidmoon8266]

Creating a situation where an opponents is unable to play nearly anything without becoming an illegal move feels hella dirty.

[@brianbarfield7138]

Imagine spending hours to build up this combo deck which has a win condition of "your opponent can't play the game", just to lose 90% of your games to a single Kaiju, sphere mode, nibiru, gamma, imperm, or any other hand trap if you don't open specifically called by (which got limited not long after this).

[@presidentbutterpudding4025]

Still worth as one of the greatest memes in yugioh

[@palatasikuntheyoutubecomme2046]

But is meme deck

[@NymphieJP]

You're wrong and that's why Konami needed to clarify this in their rule update. I kid, lol that was fucking wild hahahaha I'm glad they did change it though.

[@maeverenee1123]

This should take a similar rule to enchantments in MTG, where if it gets unaffected by the spell, the spell is destroyed. So in this case, the Phoenix blade is destroyed because it has an invalid target.

[@maxcrss2845]

No, because equips stick around even if negated, such as through IO

[@AMV_KINGDOM_mv]

No because how Yu-Gi-Oh cards are worded this wouldn't work as certain spell wouldn't die etc but they effects would be negated

[@Ninja_Geek]

Pole position reminds me of the infinite regression paradox. The best example is "This statement is false". Basically event A causes event B, then event B causes event A which then causes event B and so on.

[@MaxLoafin]

That statement lacks enough context to be proven or falsified. For example, "This statement is true." doesn't actually mean anything on it's own. There's nothing to be proven. It's just a meaningless statement. You can't even state that it's true because that would imply some sort of factual support for the statement, which there is none. Truth is factual and objective, likewise, false is something that can be proven factually and objectively. Just because the sounds you make and letters you write/type are composed into words doesn't give them any inherent meaning. A word on it's own also loses a lot of meaning, for example "bark". Am I talking about the outside of a tree or the noise a dog makes? Context creates the meaning behind the language, therefore, "this statement is false" is just meaningless as it fails to communicate anything at all. But seriously, what are the odds of someone pulling off pole position ftk?

[@LomasneyAaron]

But doesn’t this just make it that pole position just destroys itself? They should really just change pole position so that way the monster is unaffected by the activated effects of spells and not just in general, i feel like that would fix a lot of the illegal atk loops EDIT: commented before the resolution of video :P

[@charliesterry4604]

So I stumbled across this and wondered "would pole position make the great shogun unaffected by the gateway?" If it does, then this just becomes a little bit more consistent. I dunno what I'm saying, but yeah

[@chompyzilla]

Shogun gains atk from its own effect for every Bushido counter on the field. Gateway is doing nothing.

[@partyanimal4323]

Just normal summon the giant timelord 5Head :D

[@tester810]

He can't

[@partyanimal4323]

@@tester810 yea he can

[@tester810]

@@partyanimal4323 he can't legally place a card on his field were you not paying attention to the video

[@JindraAG]

@@tester810 He could IF it were to come in at higher attack than the buffed Samurai card.

[@partyanimal4323]

@@tester810 "unless its a kaiju or a monster with over 3000 ATK" god, were you not paying attention to the video?

[@marquistraylor1255]

I’m mad that this is really just 1 Isolde

[@superheavy7248]

“This is a children’s card game” 💀

[@MartinWiderlov]

This needs to be tested in master duel

[@amuricuh6143]

I need that decklist

[@kintsuki99]

Funny thing is that after watching the replay I noticed that gateway had 1 centillion - 28 counters, making the move legal. Which is why it is important for the judge to read the chat and not only the logs.

[@narutouzumaki8119]

All coming here hoping it’s Trif

[@bossanciso]

Right

[@danielrogers7098]

This is no longer possible due to Konami changing the policy on infinite loops. Now Pole Position is simply sent to the graveyard.

[@Skykin94]

Gateway is a fair card btw

[@Noah-hz9cx]

The Link is the Problem. Cause it makes Gateway searchable.

[@diss2788]

Pole position is the problem

[@diss2788]

This deck loses to Every Handtrap

[@shadowdraqon2479]

@@diss2788 actually it doesnt lose to every handtrap, it loses to most but not all. DD crow and skull meister do nothing to do this deck since it doesnt need its graveyard. all of the effects r on the field(isolde/six sam link/gateway/Saryujas/etc)

[@shadowdraqon2479]

this is one of the few decks where DD crow is trash against meanwhile DD crow is good against almost every other deck.

[@AngelofDeath333]

The combo where it sets up so that it makes all moves your opponent makes illegal

[@TrueZero2]

Here's a potential fix for Pole Position: Make the card activate at a specific time in the turn, we'll say the Standby Phase. Also make it a once per turn effect. So, instead of being a continuous effect, it checks the field ONCE during each Standby Phase, finds the monster with the highest ATK, and makes it be unaffected by spell effects for that turn. Make it so no effects can be activated in response to Pole Position activating and there you go. More or less the same effect, but as far as I can tell, it can't cause an infinite loop.

[@Raminator243]

That would be a cool errata, but honestly this card is so stupid it wouldn’t even be worth it.

[@gnos4249]

It's not an effect that you activate, it's a continous trap. It can't be fixed with an "once per turn" because its effect is... continous

[@TrueZero2]

@@gnos4249 For some continuous traps, they remain face up regardless, but their effect would only kick in when something happens, that's what I mean by activating in this case. So, here's my suggestion for an errata to Pole Position (may need adjusting to match official terms). Once per turn, during the standby phase, choose the face-up monster with the highest ATK on the field; it is unaffected by the effects of Spell Cards until the next Standby Phase. If two or more monsters are tied for the highest attack, they are all unaffected by the effects of Spell Cards. No other card effects may be activated in response to this effect. When "Pole Position" is removed from the field, destroy the face-up monster(s) with the highest ATK on the field. There we go. I'd say that maintains the spirit of the effect while avoiding potential loop shenanigans.

[@gnos4249]

bro wth, why did you reply 9 months after ahahaha

[@TrueZero2]

@@gnos4249 Simple. I clear my viewing history every so often. This video must've fallen on the wrong side of one of those clears, because it was marked as new for me.

[@joepiazza3756]

So Purgatrio, Pole Position, and any spell boost and you can cook this thing up even out of nowhere.

[@theonethathungers5552]

If you make the other monster have less than 2800 when unaffected by its boost, and over 2800 when it is affected

[@treckey6563]

Somebody please make a combo tutorial and decklist for this combo omg I want to play it

[@summermermaidstar756]

I want it so much

[@defectivesickle5643]

@@summermermaidstar756 Looks inconsistent and honestly kinda frail tbh

[@haruhirogrimgar6047]

These are the type of people who want Rhongomyniad + Gossip Shadow to 3.

[@luigiygo8602]

@@haruhirogrimgar6047 nah just ban gossip shadow Day 888 waiting for Rhongo to get unbanned and day 113 waiting for Zexal to get unbanned

[@haruhirogrimgar6047]

One day Distantcoder will win the Yugituber Grand Championship with Pole Position FTK.

[@mistriousfrog]

The problem with cards like Pole Position and Mystic Mine is that they have the ability to change their targets constantly over the course of the turn. Konami really needs to ban these kinds of cards or, in my opinion; erata them so that their effect as a time of activation. For Pole Position for instance make it so "at the time of pole position's activation, the monster with the highest attack on the field is unaffected by spell effects". Or maybe it does a check during every standby phase for the monster that currently has the highest and that is unaffected until end of turn. This would fix all of this brokenness that the cards have around changing their targets back and forth to make infinite loops.

[@empireyouth5791]

mistriousfrog A more simpler way would be to just make a new ruling saying that” any effects that changed modifiers like level attack and defense he only modify them once per action,” I feel like that would stop carts like this from switching targets multiple times in a single action because that’s the real problem

[@rayseodium]

I have found an out to this board after some quick research: Beast Machine King Barbaros Ür. You just basically need a perfect hand of Barbaros, a machine and a beast-warrior.

[@niero4201]

Or literally any "kaiju" like monster.

[@plzcme434]

Doesn't seem fair to me.

[@theonethathungers5552]

Plz Cme then you don’t play the game enough to see that it is.

[@jaltersimp9639]

Poor ants literally just wanted to play but the other guy is like nah Imma make you get punished for me being a b*tch

[@SOnZofHate]

Bruh, just believe in the heart of the cards and top deck Exodia and win the game. Ez game.

[@babrad]

But dolphin will snipe 1 card away.........

[@theonethathungers5552]

Bab Rad Whoooosh

[@admontblanc]

@@babrad u serious or jk?

[@Willium95]

That's six Sam's for you, granted good hand.

[@theonethathungers5552]

The combo was off of one isolde. You can make one isolde with a card you play 7 copies of in the deck and a card you play 4 copies of in the deck with the most power. That’s excluding drawing reds or blues (6 copies a deck), or kizans (4 copies, more if you run grandmaster), or dojo. That’s not even a good hand, that’s an average hand. It’s more about your opponent having a bad hand

[@Willium95]

@@theonethathungers5552 A poor hand I'd define as not being able to collect counters, I've upped my temples accordingly from 1 to 2 and terraforming.

[@Renvil_]

Then enter the Duel Links BEWD player: *I discard Blue-Eyes to summon Cosmo Brain (1500 + 200x8 = 3100 atk) being the highest attack on the field!* And it can't be negated, because that would trigger the infinite loop! LUL

[@krossfighter501]

Murakami: soo activate extravaganze? Mister PISS: korega Requiem da

[@chadtrowbridge9412]

I want that decklist so bad! That can't be the most consistent deck out there, but who cares, I never play anything very consistent anyway lol.

[@collingarrison4467]

It's actually probably the most consistent infinite loop, lol. Six Sam's are capable of going into 3 saryuja as well as search their entire deck with gateway. Shogun searches gateway, gateway starts the combo. All you have to do is make saryujas until you see pole position. Lol.

[@dragullongblackfang8073]

@@collingarrison4467 actually knightmare griffon might to differ

[@inanimate6933]

D/D/D laughs with flame high king genghis except this man has Apollousa with three materials

[@forvergone4784]

I could've sworn that when you make a loop using pole position it just destroys itself

[@6210classick]

in this case though, it doesn't because the action of the opponent placing a card on the field, causes the loop as such, the opponent is legally not allowed to place any card on the field under the premise that it would cause the loop

[@Auke1993]

That is absolutely crazy.....

[@Horiobrine]

This music just makes me feel so nostalgic for old deck profile channels I used to watch. I think his channel name was Garreth414ygo or smthn. They were just anime deck profiles.

[@michaelschweller1150]

i was excited to see the call and then i saw it was this degenerate combo and was immediately disappointed

[@jofx4051]

Next banlist card: *Pole Position*

[@theonethathungers5552]

Ha never

[@cameraman1234567890]

This combo can be consistent, knightmare gryphon is a card and so is foolish burial goods

[@WillieRayPR]

TCircuitry Curious is also a card. Curious the Pole Position

[@不只是谁所无名找小二]

That's some big brain combo right here

[@jaredbowers9503]

So it's equivalent to summoning Calamity on your opponent's turn. But. Every. Turn.

[@withersoul3480]

More like you just grab your opponents deck and say no. With calamity you can still use spells and traps and summon stuff

[@jaredbowers9503]

@@withersoul3480 lol true. Calamity but more extreme haha

[@Lewku]

ocg forbidden...(blade) pole position... unlimited in both

[@vanidemo]

also the illegal loop sanction should go to the player that orchestrated it all

[@palatasikuntheyoutubecomme2046]

This will no longer work The ruling is now changed to say pole position wold be destroyed

[@mtacrdipo7870]

I know it's waayyy too late, maybe it's not even a problem anymore, but I think I found a possible solution to this, while you were breaking each individual step of the loop down: Essentially, the Pole Position's effect should simply not be able to retroactively disable spells that have already affected the monster prior to the monster fullfilling the conditions for Pole Position. I know that Spell is continuous and whatnot, but if its effect on the Monster would be considered as "already applied", or that Pole Position's effect to be an effect that comes into play only after the Continuous spell, then it wouldn't cause the loop anymore. But alas.

[@YeahTheDuckweed]

Yeah nah there was a policy update a few years ago so representing unsporting infinite loops is illegal now

[@U1TR4F0RCE]

Are you happy that your video helped create a new rule to fix the issue of Pole Position being a thing that creates infinite loops.

[@DelightfullyRaging]

Honestly i respect the hard pressure strategy