The crazy flagging incident between Carlsen and Firouzja | Global Chess League 2024

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@RBLXGaming23
@RBLXGaming23 3 ай бұрын
I don’t think it’s fair to call Firouzja’s play flagging. He had less material and had to play as fast as possible.
@_sayan_roy_
@_sayan_roy_ 3 ай бұрын
That is flagging as he was intentionally doing it. He and many others have done it before as well even in drawing positions instead of offering a draw. He smartly allowed Magnus to promote a queen as it would take more time and played short moves. In online, it is done by top players regularly. But that is within the rules and is completely fair. Some people consider it unsportsmanlike like Arjun but I don't agree with that since you are entitled to take advantage of your fast play especially in no increment faster time controls (you're the one who went to that position by thinking in less time), and, not only you are entitled to but you in fact SHOULD do it, if you are playing for your team in a team event like this. This is why I didn't like what Arjun did against Pragg and Vidit in this GCL when he offered a draw instead of flagging them, especially when his team Ganges is in heavy requirement of game points. That is within the rules and in fact, that is one of the key aspects of the format.
@gautamnanda1995
@gautamnanda1995 3 ай бұрын
​​@@_sayan_roy_but how are the knight and king going to win it here for black? Shouldn't it be draw?
@neilmestry16
@neilmestry16 3 ай бұрын
​@@gautamnanda1995No it isn't. White pieces can block the path for king while the knight can checkmate. It's theoretically possible
@ygp47
@ygp47 3 ай бұрын
@@_sayan_roy_ it only shows how smart a player alireza is
@123docket
@123docket 3 ай бұрын
@@_sayan_roy_ ionno, I feel like the time scramble on board comes down to non chess results where it's just about who can move their pieces quicker, it's not about who played better chess, it makes sense online because you can premove, and it is kind of a testament to your prowess over predicting others moves, over the board it's just ugly.
@premdasyesudasan5778
@premdasyesudasan5778 3 ай бұрын
Fork from a single Knight is enough a nightmare for casual players like me. Here, Magnus is handling threats from both of them.
@sagalaaravind9062
@sagalaaravind9062 3 ай бұрын
He should have traded one of them to reduce time pressure.
@premdasyesudasan5778
@premdasyesudasan5778 3 ай бұрын
@@sagalaaravind9062 Or he might have had other plans.
@themovie7erse
@themovie7erse 3 ай бұрын
This is an Entertainment League, this is what is expected. We have other tournaments for serious chess.
@deepanshinegi4963
@deepanshinegi4963 3 ай бұрын
Then , these matches shouldn’t be FIDE rated.
@themovie7erse
@themovie7erse 3 ай бұрын
@@deepanshinegi4963 yea but if players are okay with this then its fine.
@kinshuksrivastava6128
@kinshuksrivastava6128 3 ай бұрын
This is not even chess....
@satyarthranjan7025
@satyarthranjan7025 3 ай бұрын
@@kinshuksrivastava6128 who says that
@Chloe_Grace_x
@Chloe_Grace_x 3 ай бұрын
fantastic game. absolute cinema
@dt.vishalmishra7331
@dt.vishalmishra7331 3 ай бұрын
Those who said that time increment is necessary.they forget that it is 20-minute game so there is far more time than bullet and blitz with time increment. These players play bullet in this era. so managing time is the key.
@achrafachraf-yq6re
@achrafachraf-yq6re 3 ай бұрын
magnus was better and up in time 😂
@exbricadlo
@exbricadlo 3 ай бұрын
WHO'RE YOU? PROVOKING CARLSEN, FIROUZJA ???
@chessimprovement4180
@chessimprovement4180 3 ай бұрын
The difference is that bullet and blitz are played online where premoves are possible. Bullet is rarely played OTB with no increment, people knock pieces over and it becomes a mad scramble. Blitz is also played with increment OTB for this reason.
@stquishh
@stquishh 3 ай бұрын
I do not know why people are detesting this format, it is actually an interesting one, only reason players are having trouble since they are not used to it
@georgemallory7261
@georgemallory7261 3 ай бұрын
Format is bad because the quality of chess goes out the window in order to play fast and flag people. For example, someone with a winning endgame won't be able to try to convert it. The spectacle goes, the quality of chess deteriorates. The Gukesh vs Wei Yi endgame doesn't happen, the Gukesh vs Fabi win doesn't happen (they would exchange everything and go for a draw or flag each other)
@Philopantheon82
@Philopantheon82 3 ай бұрын
Its diabolical format to be honest and i leave the explanations for yourself
@stquishh
@stquishh 3 ай бұрын
@@georgemallory7261 so you mean bullet is worst quality of chess?
@vikram4007
@vikram4007 3 ай бұрын
@@stquishh it literally is? what do you mean bruh
@johnrose1440
@johnrose1440 3 ай бұрын
i honestly think there is a direct inverse correlation between people's elo and their liking of this terrible tournament format. 500 elo players love it cuz it's "entertaining"
@Beingbasu
@Beingbasu 3 ай бұрын
I was willingly ignoring other videos i knew that you'll upload this game with the best commentatory.❤
@philipstevenson5166
@philipstevenson5166 3 ай бұрын
the reverse of their world blitz flagging a while back
@siddalingapillai1617
@siddalingapillai1617 2 ай бұрын
The end game with two bishops on one side and two knights on the other side with a couple or so pàwns on either side is very interesting. I haven't come across a game like this before! pawns is very interesting
@carlblim
@carlblim 3 ай бұрын
Alireza finally got his revenge after 5 years
@manojchandra5438
@manojchandra5438 3 ай бұрын
What goes around comes around. I remember Magnus winning a lost game in the world cup a few years ago
@WishfulThinking511
@WishfulThinking511 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for the upload ❤
@totiodfanzsai6079
@totiodfanzsai6079 3 ай бұрын
Magnus spent more time on some moves he should have spent less time on. And when he was under 5 secs, he had a sure draw by queening. Instead he played on
@arancedisicilia75
@arancedisicilia75 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, probably playing over the boeard with no increment has become very rare, so he did not manage properly.
@chesswithsamarth1004
@chesswithsamarth1004 3 ай бұрын
What do you think guys , is flagging dirty or is it part of the game?
@alien77333
@alien77333 3 ай бұрын
part of the game. And not dirty if you are playing in a team
@ShankarMupanna
@ShankarMupanna 3 ай бұрын
This tournament is for entertainment , I would say it's good, there are other serious tournament
@thegorn
@thegorn 3 ай бұрын
It's dirtier than a Diddy freak off
@ygp47
@ygp47 3 ай бұрын
part
@tanu3026
@tanu3026 3 ай бұрын
If stalemate, insufficient material can be a part of the game, flagging is also the part of the game...
@rudyflores4914
@rudyflores4914 3 ай бұрын
This format is OK once in a while but no increment just becomes a technicality seeking game instead of the point of chess to checkmate an opponent.. it looses the main idea of what chess is supposed to be and becomes a different game... Pragg losing his game because he put on his jacket before making his first move is just absurd.. 🎉
@udarajayawardena2018
@udarajayawardena2018 3 ай бұрын
Who Remembers Magnus vs Firouzja World Blitz 2019
@sagarbhanushali9286
@sagarbhanushali9286 3 ай бұрын
One of the best young player
@KironKabir
@KironKabir 3 ай бұрын
congrats on 2 million subscribers
@sampleoffers1978
@sampleoffers1978 2 ай бұрын
Traditionally time was always used as tactic but they stalled, making it stamina focus battle. This is patzing in closing seconds but it's new life to game about instinct to close vs escape lol.
@MeliaPavelich
@MeliaPavelich 3 ай бұрын
Merci pour les conseils sur les indicateurs, très utiles !
@karanarora1468
@karanarora1468 2 ай бұрын
10:30 Haven't seen Magnus in such a chaos, because he puts an end to the games well before Time runs outs !!!
@Aleslee-t7w
@Aleslee-t7w 2 ай бұрын
AMAZING.ali..reza🎉🎉🎉🎉
@premdasyesudasan5778
@premdasyesudasan5778 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for showing the game in complete. I enjoyed it to every bit.
@athreyaabhijith
@athreyaabhijith 3 ай бұрын
I think no increment is the way to go. Excellent composure shown by Alireza
@Beingbasu
@Beingbasu 3 ай бұрын
Reminds me of 3 min blitz in which even if my opponent was behind 16 points down they will just move their king to win on time😂
@agarvipul
@agarvipul 3 ай бұрын
Magnus went for win, he was way ahead in time but he did not play for time. Respect
@anandjjj435
@anandjjj435 3 ай бұрын
Watched this game live. Not good broadcast. Cant see the time for both players in live and also cant see who is better in other games parallely. Not happy.....😢😢
@TheAdi1110
@TheAdi1110 3 ай бұрын
Atleast they have got people talking about the event eve if controversial. Can only be good as i see the world that is today
@sachinmesta4238
@sachinmesta4238 3 ай бұрын
The biggest problem in chess, TIME
@HereCharlieRules
@HereCharlieRules 3 ай бұрын
In my opinion, under 5 seconds the best thing you can hope for is a draw, I don't think anyone can physically make 7-8 moves otb to win this position under 5-4 seconds. Should've just taken the draw.
@atharvakarawade9054
@atharvakarawade9054 3 ай бұрын
Alireza not taking the queen is just peak genius! I would have 100% taken the queen and drew lol
@maicolc7216
@maicolc7216 3 ай бұрын
magnus is a good sport about it
@vijayjan8608
@vijayjan8608 3 ай бұрын
Carlson seemed hesitant and clouded, almost like he took part in power slap duel just before this game 😅
@venkatraghu5696
@venkatraghu5696 3 ай бұрын
Today it's gonna be Arjun vs Wei Yi waiting for that match 😍
@AarushSehgal
@AarushSehgal 3 ай бұрын
Great match ❤
@naminasae0048
@naminasae0048 3 ай бұрын
On the last seconds I thought they just throwed and moved pieces randomly
@ExplodingSkull-n5y
@ExplodingSkull-n5y 3 ай бұрын
magnus had no chance against a much younger reza if he has 10 secs on the clock with no increment, all it took were 8 moves for him to get flagged
@Chosenone_99
@Chosenone_99 2 ай бұрын
The guy is monster 🎉😂
@dexteretoy
@dexteretoy 3 ай бұрын
when the game became a ping-pong match lmaooo
@unemployed452
@unemployed452 3 ай бұрын
Magnus outplayed him❤
@peswinner2657
@peswinner2657 3 ай бұрын
love u content brother sagar
@Karthik-s4y5f
@Karthik-s4y5f 3 ай бұрын
Global chess league ❌ Timer breaking league ✅😂😂
@itszenithbaby6082
@itszenithbaby6082 3 ай бұрын
MAGNUS is clearly the GOAT of chess💥
@antonystark3303
@antonystark3303 3 ай бұрын
Insane game.....Like how magnus was on adrenaline rush in the end...hehehe.
@ManuShivannaprakash
@ManuShivannaprakash 3 ай бұрын
Keep queens beside your side and sit
@ChessFanatic24
@ChessFanatic24 3 ай бұрын
Now this is what chess is all about. I really like the no increments format.
@nishanthk8631
@nishanthk8631 3 ай бұрын
What a game 🔥
@siddharth6355
@siddharth6355 3 ай бұрын
Is he same Ali who badly lost to Maggi in the online final just few weeks ago??😮
@sahilagrawal654
@sahilagrawal654 3 ай бұрын
the best in business is still magnus and sagar!!
@meleyga6873
@meleyga6873 3 ай бұрын
Sagar why you say flagging? He didn't flagged. Magnus had winning position all the game. As far as I know this game, this is not flagging.
@DigvijaySingh-tu3yb
@DigvijaySingh-tu3yb 3 ай бұрын
That's not 5 second..left..
@Geetendrabiomentors
@Geetendrabiomentors 3 ай бұрын
This format is not good in last few seconds, its just chaos on the board, thats not chess
@victorlevictorieux5691
@victorlevictorieux5691 3 ай бұрын
Les joueurs ont choisi ce chaos plutôt que de jouer plus vite le reste de la partie
@Maartenols
@Maartenols 2 ай бұрын
Magnus got out smarted. Big time.
@andinosa
@andinosa 2 ай бұрын
Frankly, what a stupid time format. What is the point of this? To have someone injured? Make it 15 minutes plus 5 second increment. It lasts the same. The better player wind. Much more entertaining and reasonable for the players...
@haniigg
@haniigg 2 ай бұрын
Magnus fanboys crying 😂😂😂
@NKTravelDiaries
@NKTravelDiaries 3 ай бұрын
wow ! excellent fight
@KaiMaiBrei
@KaiMaiBrei 3 ай бұрын
Alireza only had a knight. How is that not a draw by insufficient material
@victorlevictorieux5691
@victorlevictorieux5691 3 ай бұрын
If the white king is on h1, the bishop is on g1, the knight black is on g3 and the king is on h3, this is mate
@alien77333
@alien77333 3 ай бұрын
checkmate can be possible, that's why he doesn't take that queen at last.
@PaulMorphy-n1f
@PaulMorphy-n1f 3 ай бұрын
😂😂magnus😂😂
@indv6616
@indv6616 3 ай бұрын
​@@victorlevictorieux5691why didn't Alireza took Magnus's queen in the last move?
@ayushyadav1882
@ayushyadav1882 3 ай бұрын
To make him think ​@@indv6616
@karanarora1468
@karanarora1468 2 ай бұрын
KNIGHTmare EveryWhere
@evergrey4life955
@evergrey4life955 3 ай бұрын
Is it not also a draw just like in the vidit game because you can‘t mate with a single Knight? Or is there a possible way to place this white queen and bishop in a way that black is theoretically able to mate?
@surfermx
@surfermx 2 ай бұрын
yes, its possible to mate Thats why Alireza won
@Trailblazer-u3p
@Trailblazer-u3p 3 ай бұрын
Magnus was fuming real bad😂
@Corteum
@Corteum 3 ай бұрын
Genuine question.... Is it only flagging if your intention was to flag your opponent, or can you flag your opponent even without intending to flag your opponent?
@arancedisicilia75
@arancedisicilia75 3 ай бұрын
Not sure I understand your question. When you and your opponent have only a few seconds you constantly watch the clock, so it seems impossible to me that you flag without knowing.
@hiddencuber2250
@hiddencuber2250 3 ай бұрын
There should be atleast 1 sec increment
@dark_star_2326
@dark_star_2326 3 ай бұрын
Nope
@tlanda6
@tlanda6 3 ай бұрын
The format is designed EXACTLY the way it’s meant to be. No.
@Mordorian_Orque
@Mordorian_Orque 3 ай бұрын
awful control, at least 1 sec per move increment is needed
@abuzarmirza4233
@abuzarmirza4233 3 ай бұрын
Firouzja cant beat magnus in other format because he knows that magnus is goat
@mrbeanspainting
@mrbeanspainting 3 ай бұрын
each person has 20 minutes whats wrong
@lifeisstrangevideos3924
@lifeisstrangevideos3924 3 ай бұрын
So many games results decided on flagging worst thing
@skid47un
@skid47un 3 ай бұрын
revenge taste the sweetest
@KianKianfarrah
@KianKianfarrah 3 ай бұрын
Firouzja the son of Iran🎉
@premdasyesudasan5778
@premdasyesudasan5778 3 ай бұрын
These are the types of games that hook our attention to chess. Brilliant.✨️
@victorlevictorieux5691
@victorlevictorieux5691 3 ай бұрын
LA VENGANCE DE LA FINALE DES CAVALIERS
@yashgupta8000
@yashgupta8000 3 ай бұрын
1sec increment should be there
@marze904
@marze904 2 ай бұрын
F like Fox like Firuzja😮
@haniigg
@haniigg 2 ай бұрын
Magnus fanboys crying 😂😂😂
@andreadiotallevi5780
@andreadiotallevi5780 3 ай бұрын
It is winning if he has only a knight and king?
@VigneshDhakshinamoorthy
@VigneshDhakshinamoorthy 3 ай бұрын
Can someone define flagging.
@ElReyGarcia11
@ElReyGarcia11 2 ай бұрын
But Alireza only has a knight left at the end and you can’t checkmate with a knight. So isnt it a draw?
@rohit_patil02
@rohit_patil02 3 ай бұрын
This is very tragic
@sufiyanshaikh769
@sufiyanshaikh769 3 ай бұрын
Why do chess people look so weird like they don't know how to talk n react
@surfermx
@surfermx 2 ай бұрын
Firoujza understands more the chess than Carlsen And Carlsen can not win under pressure
@sandeepkumar-vm7oe
@sandeepkumar-vm7oe 3 ай бұрын
Amazing
@invisible6612
@invisible6612 3 ай бұрын
Awesome
@avinashbalaji2927
@avinashbalaji2927 3 ай бұрын
Why not draw because of insufficient material for black?
@codrutteodorsitea8376
@codrutteodorsitea8376 3 ай бұрын
checkmate would be impossible if magnus had only the king on the board or only the king and the bishop. But with the queen and the bishop on the board in theory you can still reach a position where Alireza(black) checkmates Magnus(white) with just the knight (because white would have some escape squares blocked by his own pieces). That's why black doesn't take the queen at last.
@manCatur
@manCatur 3 ай бұрын
i dont like this format. Chess is cruel. Player intentionally playing for flagging 'em. No matter how good the position or material defisit. Time keeper is the real king
@surfermx
@surfermx 2 ай бұрын
BRAVOOOOO Alirezaa!! well done!!
@surfermx
@surfermx 2 ай бұрын
Alireza understands more the chess than Magnus
@whoamihuh2142
@whoamihuh2142 3 ай бұрын
isn't it draw due to insufficient material for firouzja?
@akashprabhakar6353
@akashprabhakar6353 3 ай бұрын
It should be a draw since Alireza has just a knight?
@PaulMorphy-n1f
@PaulMorphy-n1f 3 ай бұрын
Congrat to mr Firouzjaaaa
@mithunkrishnamurthy4463
@mithunkrishnamurthy4463 3 ай бұрын
Why Overacting in thumbnails
@divyanshusahu6111
@divyanshusahu6111 3 ай бұрын
How alireza won you can't checkmate by one knight
@codeengineer10
@codeengineer10 3 ай бұрын
Opponents pieces can act as a blocker while u deliver checkmate with knigt.. very difficult but possible
@codeengineer10
@codeengineer10 3 ай бұрын
Also, mqgnus just accepted loss there. If he had appealed or complaint, then they would check rules for lack of material vs timeout as a draw as per Hikaru
@anandjjj435
@anandjjj435 3 ай бұрын
Lack of material only comes to play when opponent has no material too. In this case Carlson had some pieces which can act a blockage and alow knight to checkmate somehow theoretically.. so firoza will win according to rules..
@mohamadazliazman2899
@mohamadazliazman2899 3 ай бұрын
@@codeengineer10 its a win because the possiblity to checkmate is there. Its already happen in Carlsen and Firouzja game before
@harsh....8993
@harsh....8993 3 ай бұрын
Why would u spew shit when u don't know wht u r talking about man​@@codeengineer10
@ChiragC-wr4fc
@ChiragC-wr4fc 3 ай бұрын
No increment is bs
@LeoWook-k5p
@LeoWook-k5p 3 ай бұрын
sagar pls coach me i m 15
@hinoob12321
@hinoob12321 3 ай бұрын
no
@thegorn
@thegorn 3 ай бұрын
Pay 1 million dollars and he will
@LeoWook-k5p
@LeoWook-k5p 3 ай бұрын
@@thegorn aight
@onan5846
@onan5846 3 ай бұрын
well firouzja didnt win cuz he has unsuficient material so this was a draw
@justsomeboyprobablydressed9579
@justsomeboyprobablydressed9579 2 ай бұрын
stupid time control
@Norwegian733
@Norwegian733 3 ай бұрын
Maybe Carlsen should deliver a complaint. I`m sure Alireza made a sound during the game 😁
@thegorn
@thegorn 3 ай бұрын
He farted?
@sandeepkumar-kh3yz
@sandeepkumar-kh3yz 3 ай бұрын
How this is win......knight and king are draw
@VisheshMauryayt173
@VisheshMauryayt173 3 ай бұрын
Magnus jeans needs replacement
@DergEnterprises
@DergEnterprises 3 ай бұрын
That was fun to watch.
@TonyStark-vx9qz
@TonyStark-vx9qz 3 ай бұрын
BS time control
@mujeebgaming7912
@mujeebgaming7912 3 ай бұрын
Magnus won..In my opinion.. Alireza was crushed
@Richard_Stroker
@Richard_Stroker 3 ай бұрын
They really should have increment. This kind of pandemonium is surely not in the spirit of the game.
@thegorn
@thegorn 3 ай бұрын
It's trash chess
@FarzanJ8
@FarzanJ8 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
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