The Crow - The Worst Movie Of The Year

[@Eddy_Grimm]

"How do you kill a man who is already dead?" -Given them a remake in the 21st century.

[@anubusx]

😅

[@osmanyousif7849]

"Dead? My death was GREATLY EXAGGERATED."

[@grandmufftwerkin9037]

Wait until someone decides to resurrect Brandon Lee using AI and puppeteer him for a remake. It's not outside of the realm of possibility, unfortunately.

[@AntonioArger]

Ouch but accurate aff

[@toddjohnson5176]

Classic comment!🤣🤣🤣👌🏽

[@TheRealOmnissiah]

A film nobody asked for or wanted.

[@boogaloobaloo]

Practically every* movie in the last 5-7 years.

[@RC-qf3mp]

@@boogaloobaloo yup. Anything that’s a sequel or part of a franchise can go f itself. Originality died a long time ago.

[@cy-one]

A film nobody asked for, wanted or watched :D

[@zackaryhaselius2226]

Thats just every movie now.

[@gladiatorscoops4907]

The state of Bill's haircut in this I'd barely call it a film.

[@AkuTenshiiZero]

It's like they forgot that Eric Draven is supposed to be a good man, and that the good people still left in the city are critical to the story. The cop who still hasn't given up on the city despite how bad things have gotten, the little girl who just wants her mother back, when the movie is over you are left knowing that these characters will have better lives thanks to Eric. As the movie says: "It can't rain all the time," the rain represents the misery of the city and when the movie ends, so has the rain. I hate when people think of the movie as just being about an edgy goth superhero, and overlook how hopeful the movie truly is.

[@treek10k]

Jesus Christ died for your sins on the cross. Repent and believe in him or you will be separated from God The Father for all eternity and face hell forever, for all eternity, never ending.

[@-lloygic-3565]

You're 100% right, but all of the elements you're talking about were things added to the original story by the script-writers. The original story is just gothy revenge porn against black people. The only aspect of it that didn't age poorly was Eric being a moody goth loser spouting poetry and acting out his revenge fantasies. His morality is basically the same thing as Antifa, except he targets murderers instead of storefronts.

[@kelleylea5]

Yes!

[@SaltyBob355]

They completely missed the point of the original!

[@bjoardar]

@@treek10k Your comment is misplaced. It does not belong here. It doesn't even belong in the 21st century. Please move on to a forum specified for your beliefs and kindly leave the rest of us out of it.

[@rezarfar]

1994: The Crow Interview With The Vampire Forrest Gump Leon Shawshank Redemption Pulp Fiction 2024: This crap.

[@BenjiXAddictX4Ever]

IWTV was soooo good, Anne Rice is rolling in her grave with what they did with the show. Jeez.

[@rosuppp]

Don’t forget lion king

[@rezarfar]

@@rosuppp oh trust me, i didn't, 1994 was one of the best years for films in history, i could make a much longer list if i wanted. Natural born killers Junior Lion king True Lies Ace Ventura The Mask Dumb and Dumber. I mean dude the amount of cultural classics in the year was absolutely ridiculous. Legend of the fall Clear and present danger Stargate

[@rosuppp]

@@rezarfar god how did I forget dumb and dumber

[@rezarfar]

@@rosuppp Jim Carrey had some career defining bangers that year, The Mask and Ace Ventura too.

[@beowulfsrevenge4369]

Worse than Borderlands? Now that's impressive.

[@osmanyousif7849]

And Madam Web?

[@BobNinjaCat]

Hollywood isn't making it out of 2024 with this one!

[@madisattybayev249]

Worse than Rebel Moon: Scargiver?

[@600wheel]

@@madisattybayev249🤣nope nothin is worse than rebel moon anything

[@solanumtuberosa]

I'd say because both the original crow book and movie came from an emotional place of the author. This just pisses all over it

[@lw6866]

The film we don't need, but the film we also don't deserve.

[@petebagwell6666]

Nah we fuckin deserve this

[@psibug565]

@@petebagwell6666Only Acolyte fans deserve this.

[@treek10k]

Jesus Christ died for your sins on the cross. Repent and believe in him or you will be separated from God The Father for all eternity and face hell forever, for all eternity, never ending.

[@frostyfilmwatcher2148]

More like it doesn't deserve us.

[@StCreed]

​@@treek10k well, even with Jesus dying and all I still think we didn't deserve this.

[@DaleCoreySanford]

1994 Crow: A product of it's time. Grim, gritty, emotional and hopeful 2024 Crow: A product of its time. A hollow, overly emotional story of two insufferable assholes that everyone is rooting for to die

[@juliofrank83]

I wonder if they're punk-goths?

[@englishatheart]

@@juliofrank83 So punk-rockers?

[@ishanray]

So true!!

[@TomDrake-A1A]

I remember in 1994 I had just started highschool and saw The Crow, True Lies, Forrest Gump and Pulp Fiction all within a couple months of each other.. good times

[@dominikfrohlich6253]

Gotta love the 90s

[@VaughanBrant]

So, the Simp sacrifices himself for the Narcisist. Go figure. That never happens.

[@Alexcatchh]

Cry😂

[@kylemountford8572]

The Brandon Lee Crow had the grunge/ gothic look of the early 90’s. This Crow looks like Jared Leto’s Joker.

[@voutsider190]

Yes! And that's never a good thing

[@nukiesduke6868]

Soo. As I saw him that's exactly what came to mind 😅

[@christophertaylor9100]

There is a lot of talk that they really wanted to make the Joker but with Crow dressing.

[@megancao5988]

Exactly !!

[@Unapologeticweeb]

He looks like DMC reboot Dante mixed with Leto's joker

[@VJ_The_Vigilant]

I think the worst part is how they turn Eric and Shelly into scummy low lives.

[@giulizpaviz6381]

From my prospective it's even more disgusting cuz James O'Barr (the author of the original comic) wrote The Crow as a way to cope from his tragic loss of his girlfriend (Shelly is basically her)

[@VJ_The_Vigilant]

@@giulizpaviz6381 I know they were just a nice couple. Eric was just a local rock musician, that’s another big element missing from this.

[@jondorsey2043]

Agreed! The comic was pretty great, and doesn't deserve this.

[@RadioactiveGoose]

1994: "morphine is bad for you" 2024: "let's pop these pills and get high"

[@JayFulcanelli--111]

Tbf that's exactly who would consider this movie an 'improvement', so at least they got their representation..

[@robertmiller9983]

This movie is much more disrespectful than most money grabs. Brandon Lee died making the Original

[@MariusWales]

Rest his soul.

[@osmanyousif7849]

Considering how they made THREE SEQUELS AND A TV SERIES which all failed, you'd think someone would realize that making another one is a huge mistake.

[@tallulahbeaverhausen4382]

And thanks to Steven Seagal, they found the bullet in him.

[@MMAallday67]

Agreed

[@AND-od5jt]

The Hollywood way to piss on graves -.-

[@persephoneblack888]

I hate that they show all this shitty background on Eric and Shelley. I HATE that they made her a prostitute and druggie. Shelley was a good person. The good people in the original movie were the most important part. The beacons of light in a city of darkness. We didn't meed an explanation of the supernatural going on. Just seeing the crow was enough to understand that something was going on. I could go on and on. They really were disrespectful for making this.

[@Sai-m4q]

i'm sorry but i don't think being a prostitute or an addict make a person inherently bad, it was the circumstances of Shelley on this movie, yes, it was different from the original source, but people often times fall into dark and complicated things, they were beacons of light in a city of darkness, just in a different way :p i think implying she wasn't a good person is a very plain way to see it

[@Espadãä-g3q]

​@Sai-m4q yeah well even if she isn't a bad person, making her a prostitute wasn't necessary and she didn't feel like a light in a dark city she just felt like your average person along with Eric who wasn't even a character fr, this movie could've been a solid 3 if they didn't use the original names and stuck to a variation

[@vgamedude9811]

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[@melochronic9895]

Its really sad cause the author, James O' Barr, only made The Crow as a way to heal after losing his girlfriend after being hit by a drunk driver after he had called her to come pick him up as he didn't want to get caught and ticketed possibly. James even blamed himself for Brandon's death as it was his creation being made to film and, he got to meet and become friends with him. So with the sudden accidential shooting of Brandon it James hard. It was only after he had a heart to heart talk with Brandon's wife did she remind that it wasn't his fault and, neither she nor Brandon would blame him.

[@tommyc1493]

Very interesting.

[@Ronin.97]

All of this just makes it even more insulting to just cheaply remake it

[@videowilliams]

Wow, yet another layer of poignancy to add to the 1994 original.

[@Porkslap83]

.....Jesus christ... that is the saddest thing I've heard in a long time.

[@BattleBro77]

And he co-wrote this pile of shit, which is wild.

[@ikenosis8160]

"TWO FULL HOURS OF PAIN! All for you... All at once!"

[@John_Locke_108]

😂😂😂😂

[@SliderFury1]

Best comment 🤣🤣 Edit: I think you have to swap the last two lines though, can't remember. Time to watch the OG again.

[@benjaminperez7328]

@@SliderFury1 It is. All at once…..all for YOU…….

[@wesleywarsmith1113]

Heheh Heheheh

[@toddjohnson5176]

Epic comment!!! 😂😂😂

[@bruhdon4748]

This movie feels like a complete insult to James obarr who wrote the crow graphic novel(s) they were made over the course of many years of him essentially locking himself away in depression because his soon to be wife was killed by a drunk driver, he essentially locked himself away and poured all of his pain into the crow. he was Eric & his fiancé was Shelly, in the comic whenever Shelly is on page it’s very airy light with soft lines almost angelic and dream like, to turn her into an ex hooker and drug addict is beyond insulting & misses the mark entirely.

[@lyssness15]

💯

[@lisamendis5886]

What! I met James O'Barr at a comic Con and got him to sign my special edition copy of the Crow. He's a genuine guy. Don't know if he was even consulted on this movie or if he sold the IP for the film rights back when the original came?

[@rosfell00]

There's a quote I love from the original comic when Eric is trying to go to the afterlife to meet with Shelly but for some reason he can't, the crow tells him that he needs to forgive in order to go, but Eric refuses to forgive the ones who killed Shelly and then the crow screams: "NOT THEM YOU IDIOT, YOURSELF... YOU GOTTA UNDERSTAND IT WASN'T YOUR FAULT" Something like that could only come from a grieving heart trying to let go of the sorrow of losing a loved one for reasons beyond their control, and that's what made the original story so special, something modern writers and Hollywood directors will never be able to understand...

[@rampel1]

But that's edgy 😂. It must be a pain to know the source material and to be able to compare it to this piece of s

[@blackbird6001]

I’ve watched this crap. So disappointed.. They made Eric and Shelly stupid junkies, who always hanging out and having sex. This should be true love? Oh,please…🤮

[@Serai3]

I am of the firm belief that only bad films should ever be remade. Remakes should exist solely to make something better out of something that was crappy. If it's already good, LEAVE IT THE F**K ALONE.

[@J-leaf]

You mean to tell me, that after MADAM WEB and freaking BORDERLANDS! ... Now we have the worst movie of the year.... Geez, Crow must really be on a new level of sh*t.

[@MariusWales]

The Razzies have a lot of material this year.😅

[@J-leaf]

@@MariusWales Sorry, wrong comment. Anywho, honestly... This years razzies is somehow gonna be more entertaining than any award ceremonis.

[@Knuck_Knucks]

A lot of hold my beer one upsmanship... 🐿

[@ktvindicare]

2023 was the year of the overbudgeted box office disaster. 2024 is just a year of bad movies in general, but hey at least the budgets are back under control.... kinda.

[@cleanerben9636]

I think it scores double bad for being a remake

[@garys7665]

The original left you to imagine the intense love they had for each other while the new version shows you that they are as annoying as a typical modern couple.

[@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat]

At some point hollywood is going to realize that if you give a character cringe face tattoos the audience is going to despise the character. Post Malone pulls that shit off because for some bizarre reason he's also the nicest guy in the universe.

[@JarinXeno]

This movie looks like the movie equivalent of the Saints Row remake.

[@kuraikenshi2349]

Totally agree on the love. On the First and Sequel, the moment of the two loved ones together just shines as the small pockets of good in a black reality just hits us with those nice soft moments of life that we carry through life.

[@khhv1900]

You don't have to forget that they have to "empower" the female

[@StrangeCreed]

The comic was even more intense because it had scenes were Draven was going to very extreme methods to distract and numb himself. Three full syringes of morphine to the heart, wrapping razor wire on his arms, and he's still wracked with the loss of Shelley more than anything he was doing to his flesh.

[@Cau_No]

"People once believed that when someone dies, a crow carries their soul to the land of the dead. But sometimes, something so bad happens that a terrible sadness is carried with it and the soul can't rest. Then sometimes, just sometimes, the crow can bring that soul back to put the wrong things right." Brandon Lee must be walking around somewhere right now …

[@Didymus20X6]

One can only hope. And maybe someone could send Kevin Conroy back to teach Mark Hamill to be more respectful of his fans.

[@mtgamateurnight]

@@Didymus20X6 I still say he did not voice the last appearance with Kevin in Crisis pt 3.

[@mrhassell]

Slapping himself on the forehead and saying "I can't fkn believe it!" - probably laying in his grave, feeling like someone just exhumed him, filled his coffin with shit, threw a copy of The Crow 2024 on top and reburied him. To call it sacrilegious... well that's just bullshit but so's this move, so we're equal.

[@Ballisticuppercut]

Damn, that was poetic.

[@toshamccarty5115]

Thanks for the premise behind the movie being called the crow. If I had heard it back in 1994, I can say I had forgotten before 2024.

[@wolfpacksix]

"Why was this movie even made?" To minimize the male protagonist and substitute a female minority protagonist. It's really that simple.

[@CaptPostmod]

The seed of the mistake started with the director thinking it’s an origin story. You get over grief, not grow into it. In the comic and 94 movie, the protagonist starts as the Crow and slowly grows back into Eric. In the original film, he literally gives away all his grief and pain at the end to let the Crow die so he can rest as Eric. The Crow done right is never an origin story, it’s a eulogy. Because the point of grief is learning to get over its’ super powers and just let it finally rest.

[@j.menapace625]

Yeah the original "Crow" isn't an origin story or even a superhero movie-- it's a tragedy and tragedies always end with the death (literal or figurative) of the hero. That's also probably why Bill Skarsgard was reportedly wary of the ending being re-written in a way that leaves it open to a sequel. A movie like this isn't supposed to have one and its writers believing otherwise evidences a complete lack of understanding of the source material.

[@coreym162]

Eric isn't "The Crow". That's the problem with The Crow. Everyone makes Eric out to be a hero. He is not. He brought back to do one job. It's not a heartfelt story.

[@Lethalmuffin87]

Your comment deserves more praise than the entire remake lol

[@JamesTobiasStewart]

For all that they are terrible, even the direct to video sequels understood that; Eric stayed dead and the Crow was a different person each time. The Crow only brings you back to settle your own personal unfinished business, not to fight crime in general. Once you've laid your demons to rest, it is time for you to go home.

[@garym6315]

It's the reason why the original movie resonated so far and wide. The backstory to Eric and Shelly was barely anything (played in a band, deeply in love, due to be married, cared for a local girl), and the story began with their deaths. Everyone could associate with the tale because it's such basic concepts of love and loss, hatred and revenge. That sense of pain and anger where you've lost someone, life is unfair and dark and you just want revenge for it.

[@p1ckleboii]

“Hey, ChatGPT. Remake the Crow for me.” - Hollywood

[@Soxfandan]

But make it lame and gay.

[@andrewdamore2571]

@@Soxfandan Put a chick in it

[@shanesutton336]

Dollars to donuts ChatGPT would of written up something closer to the mark then this.

[@manueltavares5967]

I think if they've done that, the argument would had been better.

[@Mahi-jg5dx]

@@Soxfandan and put a chick in it

[@kristianbanks6450]

I honestly completely forgot that this movie exists. What a disgrace from the original. The Crow is just one of those movies that do not need a remake. Rest In Peace Brandon Lee

[@RC-qf3mp]

It’s like they shot Brandon in the back.

[@kristianbanks6450]

@@RC-qf3mp agreed. The movie feels like it’s own thing instead of a remake to a heartbreakingly dark but genius original.

[@louisduarte8763]

Did you forget the 3 sequels after the '94 version?

[@Zaruf]

@@louisduarte8763 and TV series

[@Maladjester]

There were already, what? Three awful cash-grab sequels? Four? Was there a TV show? Can't be bothered to look it up. They pissed on Brandon's grave for a solid decade.

[@captainahab2485]

Ah, the Eric and Shelley backstory that no one asked for!

[@kri249]

They put pink in a Crow movie. Not from dilute blood stains. Not from neon lights in strip bar. Not from a kids halloween costume. But the main character and a whole bunch of people, wearing pink. In a Crow movie. Did the director forget he was directing a Crow movie? WTF?

[@sonofeyeabovealleffoff5462]

@kri249 I mean we all saw this woke mess coming.

[@hausofsteph]

It’s like as if Barbieland was grew/black instead of pink 💀💀💀

[@lukesimon2227]

Facts ​@@hausofsteph

[@blackbird6001]

So true! It would have been better if FKA Twig had done a collaboration with Bill Skarsgård and they had just made a music video. This nightmare is something I’d rather erase from my memory and go back to watching the original film.

[@LexingtonDeville984]

Remember - the director is Rupert Sanders, who wrecked his marriage after having an affair with Kristen Stewart.

[@thejunky17]

I think the shallowness and emptiness of this movie perfectly defines the difference between two cinema eras 30 years apart. Just lazy and unnecessary.

[@Vlekistan]

Bimgo. And the weird assumption that all anybody wants is remakes of what they already know. Like they are talking about makig a remake of Lost Boys. Are you kidding me? What's next, a Remake of Repo Man? Morons. May as well try to do a remake of Apocalypse Now.

[@shawnmurphy9245]

@@Vlekistanor back to the future

[@Jdog11Bravo]

Brandon Lee's Crow: goth rocker Skarsgard's Crow: depressed SoundCloud rapper

[@bryanwalthall5483]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@themadmattster9647]

I don’t even think he does music. To me, Draven being a musician was an integral part of the story

[@Soxfandan]

Guessing the soundtrack is dogcrap too.

[@blackspring3207]

you do understand that a goth rocker in 1994 rubbed tough guys the wrong way to the same exact extent that a soundcloud rapper rubs you, right? Tell me you understand

[@abdulswamad92]

Just like Wesley Snipes can be the ONLY blade, the late Brandon Lee can be the only CROW

[@riffgroove]

I love the fact that the original director of the first movie is having a field day heaping online scorn upon this. "I originally thought this was going to be a soul-less cash grab... turns out there wasn't much cash to grab."

[@theblackflame4002]

Its the best I've seen since Friedkin destroying Exorcist 2 The Heretic. Shame he passed before that even worse abomination Believer came out, would have been epic.

[@riffgroove]

@theblackflame4002 "Legion" is still one of my all time favorite films.

[@theblackflame4002]

@@riffgroove By Legion you mean Exorcist 3 based on Blatty's sequel, or the actual film Legion?

[@riffgroove]

@theblackflame4002 Obviously I'm talking about Blatty's sequel.

[@theblackflame4002]

@@riffgroove Dourif was one evil bastard in that. I like Blatty's original cut without the exorcism better.

[@m13579k]

No one in modern Hollywood will ever understand what the 90s "edgy" aesthetic was and what made it so good. Just children trying to mimic something their parents did.

[@imjoeimjoe]

@@fvefve12 Oh we got one ! Wow you must know everything about said person tell me more.

[@richlew7768]

@@fvefve12 Next time you can use proper grammar to shout out your wannabe diss.

[@jonwacken4312]

@@fvefve12 Project much?

[@MetaITurtle]

Yeah it does feel like they only watched the trailer of 1994 The Crow

[@johnconnor7131]

​@@fvefve12you sound like a flog

[@RRTNZ]

As someone who has loved the original film, since I saw it in 1994, I will never see the remake. Thanks Drinker for taking the bullet for me, and helping sink this piece of near blasphemous garbage.

[@loupiscanis9449]

So say we all.

[@Porkslap83]

Indeed.

[@kevinford6372]

Exactly, I will not lay my eyes on this garabage. Now the 1994 version that i own, seen it 50x and wouldnt be opposed to see it 50 more x

[@tobybigham4196]

That is a real shame these people took a big old crap all over our childhood! This movie is a reminder that if you are going to work on a project, then for God's sake learn it, read it, and be passionate about the source material.

[@buckybryan550]

You beat me to it. Skarsgard is cool, but there is no replacing Brandon. I'm a big fan of Mark Dacascos too, but never watched the TV show. Some things are better left alone.

[@NightVisionz457]

The original Crow died gracefully and then out of the ruins came this Pet Sematary abomination. The original film is the equivalent of when a character is alive. Then this film is the equivalent of a zombie version after the character is dead

[@Garrett316]

I met Ernie Hudson in 2007. I asked him about what it was like to work with Brandon Lee. As it turned out, they were friends for 6 years before ‘The Crow’ was made. The original film was special to Mr. Hudson because they were finally able to work on a project together. God willing, people’s interest will be sparked to see the original again and see Brandon Lee at the pinnacle of his short lived, but amazing career. RIP Brandon Lee RIP Michael Masse (“Fun-boy”)

[@Sarcastic_Sophist]

Well now knowing the whole backstory on the comic I plan to watch it with some friends soon and read the comic.

[@videowilliams]

Hear, hear!

[@alnu8355]

​@Sarcastic_Sophist the comic is great!

[@Sarcastic_Sophist]

@@alnu8355 look forward to reading it, should I go with original or 2012 remake?

[@alnu8355]

@Sarcastic_Sophist Original comic by James O'Barr. If it's collection is republished under a different publisher, that should work too. I would be remiss not to mention that the Crow comics had a few solid sequals over the years. Not to be mistaken for those aweful film sequals. In one of the comic sequals, Confederate Soldiers are reincarnated as a gang of violent bikers. A native American they killed in their previous lives comes back as a Crow to take them down. In another, an ATF agent is killed by a psycho millitia. She comes back as a Crow to stop them. For whatever reason, she does not regenerate and continually rots. So she has to do things like staple her decaying skin together. In another, a Jewish man who died in a concentration camp during WW II dies, comes back as a Crow to reek terrible vengence against those running the camps. None of these are as good as the OG Comic but I think the're fun and well done in their own right. I'm honestly surprised none of the film sequals took more inspiration from them. The're all better than any of the film sequals or this reboot.

[@Adam_Bombz]

There's only one Crow film worth watching, and that's the original from 1994. R.I.P. Brandon Lee

[@DanielGaviriaAcosta]

Your pfp and comment let me know you are a man of taste good sir

[@Adam_Bombz]

@@DanielGaviriaAcosta Thanks man, appreciate it.

[@jesusbauer8861]

Time to re install Max Payne again! :-)

[@willybe6427]

I saw a video of a crow using a plastic lid as a snowboard on someone's roof.. I think that's the only crow video worth watching.

[@rars0n]

Honestly, while I hated City of Angels when it first came out, it's not nearly as bad as its reputation, and far better than anything that came after it (which admittedly is saying very little).

[@thedeepfriar745]

This might be harsh to say but but the original Eric and Shelly being murdered is a tragedy. Two junkie criminals being offed by a couple of gangsters is just Tuesday.

[@lauraw2526]

Yeah the whole point of their deaths in the original was that they were good people who died in horrific, tragic ways that neither deserved at all. It's sad and hopeful and bittersweet but still tragic that Eric is brought back to get revenge, while still unable to live out his life with Shelly. That's hard to replicate and it sounds like the remake didn't even try.

[@jujuubug5163]

😂 totally

[@Porkslap83]

Hehehe...Tuesday. Fuck, I really miss Raul Julia.

[@hate4sjws529]

Well put my man well put

[@GruntoSkunko]

Moral standards have declined since then

[@akinma]

I think Brandon Lee was a perfect fit for the role in the original movie. There's some dark irony in it, that he and his fiancé were planning to be married just 17 days after his tragic death in the set. Anyone even considering filming a "remake" of The Crow is pissing on Brandon Lee's grave (and into Eliza Hutton's morning cereals), considering what happened to him during the filming of the original. And this movie sure is nothing more than a dump on his grave. Oh well, they did it already with the sequels, specially ruining the first sequel, which might have been better, if not intervened by idiots.

[@hawkshot867]

Let me get this straight.... They made the crow a secondary in his own story. Replaced Shelly with a black girl who can't act. Replaced the villain with an old white guy. Rewrote the whole story to be that Shelly wears the pants in the relationship. And rewrote the whole story to be about Shelly being given a second chance.... Yeah I think I know exactly why this movie was made.

[@seagrey75]

It’s disgusting.

[@dylanhemlin8435]

@@harrypottah8889Everyone is bitter about everything nowadays it’s tragic

[@slang1517]

@@harrypottah8889 Wakanda forever

[@dr.juerdotitsgo5119]

Exactly. At this point you need to be extremely naive to think these movies are made with the intention of making money, let alone as an earnest artistic endeavor.

[@VES.]

good point !

[@timtarbet4594]

You can always tell how The Drinker really felt about the film by his “Go away now.” And this one? Oh boy. This one is SPICY.

[@hylkeypma]

Was looking for this comment. I'm actually wondering how much more fierce his "Go away now" can become. Or perhaps we shouldn't wish to find out...

[@tapiolautavaara9532]

@@hylkeypma Nah, it'll be fine...as long as he keeps sacrificing his sanity for us, so I can skip this crap and rather go see D&W again.

[@1s3ngr1m]

It actually sounds as if he is hauling his drunken a$$ over to Hollywood to end this misery that is this cornucopia of bad scripts

[@shadowchaser3836]

@@hylkeypma IIRC for Star Trek: Lower Decks he didn’t even say “go away now”. He said “anyway, whatever, leave me alone”.

[@EndlessFunctionality]

Love the emotion in his "Go Away Now". Falling Down he was so sad and quiet with it.

[@rogersjgregory]

In the 1994 version, Eric and Shelly were murdered the night before their wedding, which makes it more tragic, and makes you empathise with Eric when goes after them for revenge. But he doesn’t just gun them down, he kills each one using their own methods. Knives, drugs, explosives, gravity, etc. It was more poetic. It also had flashbacks which showed what Eric had lost, to remind you why he was doing what he was doing, and it made his character more tragic, and sad. From the trailer alone, this new version has none of those elements, so there’s no way in for us to connect, and therefore care about Eric and Shelly. Old version: fairly normal couple, who stood their ground and wouldn’t leave their apartment. New version: a couple of druggies who find each other in rehab, but still look like meth heads. Which ones are we more likely to sympathise with? Hmm……

[@Voodoowolfe]

Also in this one, there was no heinous death of the couple. In the 94, they were tortured, Shelly was r***d, then both were killed. The reason they did this movie ending was to keep it open for sequels

[@shalotstage]

I think they didnt make the "murdered before the wedding" because today many feminist would go nuts at the idea of "having to be married to have a meaningful relationship 🤯😱"... also the idea of a "good woman" as the source of revenge... I mean...I can almost hear them ranting about how UNREAL that character is. They made them a prostitute and a drug addict to make it "more realistic 🤪🤪🤪" hahahahahaha LOL. This movie is exactly WHY "remakes" are 90% of the time a PILE OF 💩. When they make stuff focused on "todays audience🤪🤪🤪" instead of respecting the original source material or the story, and to make A GOOD movie... IT COMES A ACROSS AS A HUGE PILE OF 💩💩💩💩💩💩💩.

[@Grabthar191]

@@Voodoowolfe Yeah. I kind of would like to know why they didn't make the deaths horrific if the rest of the violence in the movie was going to be intense.

[@N8vLady67]

I agree, the original Eric & Shelly seem like a couple I'd want for neighbors. They joked with each other, had a pet cat, laughed a lot & devoted to each other.

[@GothLady1987]

@@Voodoowolfe Some endings are left open for symbolism, to leave us wondering "what next?" without actually getting it. Those are the open endings I like. It keeps us wanting more, but the fact that we never get it makes us appreciate the story more. Not every open ending demands a sequel, or should get one. It's why some sequels flop. They can't hold a candle to the original because they weren't meant to happen.

[@mattgibson9103]

Brandon Lee’s the Crow is Beautiful.

[@dp5383]

I remember watching the original "The Crow" and thinking "There's no way Detroit looks like that"... then I went to Detroit...

[@enkercodm9506]

Nah id say the layout feels off but outside of that and the constant rain (the real stereotype should have been that the weathers never consistent)

[@DrFrankNStein-sf2ww]

Yeah, The Crow and the original RoboCop nailed it.

[@tombarnett937]

@@DrFrankNStein-sf2ww Robocop was filmed in Dallas, IIRC

[@creativewritingcorner]

Nah. Detroit looks worse.

[@DemocRATsTouchKids]

Detroilet

[@holty1314]

Madame Web: I’m the worst movie of the year! Borderlands: Nice try! I’m the worst movie of the year! The Crow: 🐦‍⬛

[@leadonsoftly]

The Crow: "Hold my tear(s)."

[@zeddwulfen7737]

"Quick impression for ya... Caw caw, bang! Fuck I'm dead!"

[@robertbrown3413]

4 months left yet...

[@andrabook8758]

is that supposed to be a pigeon...crapping out a black hole? Bc if so, that's PERFECT!

[@Ninja1980]

The race to the bottom.

[@alexanderharoldsen4178]

"Humanity" is probably the best way to sum up why the original works. My sister walked in and saw him squeezing the drugs out of a woman's arm and was immediately invested in what is now her all time favorite movie.

[@coyoteone6197]

And that fantastic use of the Thackeray quote: "Mother is the name for God in the lips and hearts of little children." What a great scene.

[@izzan3084]

You guys fuggin' get it. Atta'boys

[@jimdraven2432]

Agreed. And in the new one, both Shelley & Eric are drugs addicts USING the drugs as opposed to what we originally given.

[@panther-nk2hn]

@@coyoteone6197 You had my attention, but now you have my curiosity. I must watch this film now.

[@geegeecamp2804]

​@@panther-nk2hnyou should. It's phenomenal, really. Very dark and poignant.

[@sarinat3101]

"Why was this movie made?" "Because we're out of ideas but we still want money."

[@LeoJay]

Ain't no way someone is dying or coming back from death for that Shelly.

[@bartsullivan4866]

Exactly!!!!!!

[@SicketMog]

Also ain't no way they gave this "Eric Draven" facial tats but not one across his forehead that says "damaged"

[@DonLeStudio]

THIS.

[@Svvithred]

The 'new' Shelley probably smells like a cankle factory.

[@HarleyLuna31]

​@Svvithred what does that means?

[@barrbudo]

"Why was this film even made?" Because they're on a quest to kill everything that we hold dear.

[@joeylummox7330]

And they are succeeding in just that.

[@joimumu]

Jokes on them we aren´t paying to see woke crap and with time it will be forgotten

[@matroid10]

​@@joeylummox7330not really. We the fans are the franchise they are just money. They need us we do not need them

[@stevendeamon]

But they arent killing anything. The originals that we hold dear are still there and always will be. These remakes are just shite that we dont have to bother with. If anything, they remind us we havent seen the good old originals in a while and we should rewatch them :)

[@barrbudo]

@@stevendeamon people don't look for originals. They instead take remakes as truth and they defend them tooth and nail. That's how things die.

[@tonycrabtree3416]

So, they created a Harley Quinn/Joker love story hoping the protagonist would go full Punisher whilst female lead reincarnates as Snow White?

[@gstlynx]

I watch your stuff just to hear your refreshingly intelligent and carefully crafted language.

[@jakobthedragonboy]

wow, this just went from coincidence to pattern. Every "The Crow" Movie has resulted in a major death: The Crow - Brandon Lee The Crow: City of Angels - Thuy Trang (The OG yellow power ranger) The Crow(2024) - "The Crow" Franchise

[@louisduarte8763]

Wait, what? How did Trang die?

[@jakobthedragonboy]

@@louisduarte8763 Yeah, in a car accident shortly after making City of Angels

[@HonkHill-ev4hk]

@@louisduarte8763 Yeah it's been known for years, her life was cut short just like Lee's sadly.

[@shawnsmith2006]

There was at least 4, The Crow films before 2024, including the 4th that had Edward Furlong, Tara Reid, David Boreanaz, Dennis Hopper, and Danny Trejo. I'm not sure if there were any major deaths from the 3rd or 4th film. The 3rd film starred Eric Mabius from the first Resident Evil movie. I liked the original most of all but I kind of liked all the sequels in there own way because I like stuff like that, but 2024 looks like trash and just looks like it was made out of disrespect and spite.

[@deannamarie8389]

@shawnsmith2006 it was made to capitalize on the name recognition of the original film and is nothing more than a cash grab. There were 23 other characters who became The Crow in the comic, they shouldn't have reused Eric and Shelly, their story has already been told. If the studio really wanted to make money from The Crow, all they had to do was update some of the CGI in the original film and release it nationwide, I would have gone to see that. This awful new one is a joke.

[@Shapershift]

Madame Web, Borderlands and now The Crow. 2024 was one hell of a year for bad movies.

[@davidcopplestone6266]

We have "Snow White" to come.

[@richtes]

@@davidcopplestone6266Snow White supposed to be 2025. Not sure what trash is going to try for a Thanksgiving or Christmas release

[@maattthhhh]

And we still have 4 months to go 😅

[@matane2465]

And then over on streaming, we had The Acolyte.

[@redstripezoom8856]

Then we had Megamind 2 the doom syndicate..🚮

[@Locadel2003]

“Ernie Hudson” also gave a very good performance in the original movie. He was very kind, humble and an overall underrated performance as a good cop and a part of the movie that is just as admirable as Brandon Lee or the guy who played Top Dollar

[@louisduarte8763]

And bonus: Lee and Hudson were friends IRL, having worked together on another movie.

[@Mal_Freeman0451]

He's essential to that film. He's the one character that grounds the film in reality.

[@geoffok]

Ernie Hudson is one of the most underrated actors of all time.

[@SliderFury1]

​@@Mal_Freeman0451exactly, I think he kind of represents the audience, or at least the average Joe caught up in some super natural shenanigans and not sure what to make of it all, but still happy to support his friend, even after he died.

[@himwhoisnottobenamed5427]

Michael Wincott. aka Guy of Gisbourne in 90s Robin Hood. He was in The 3 Musketeers movie. He had a part in Westworld back when it was still good. He’s been around. His brother Jeff is also an actor, but you likely haven’t seen him in anything. Most of his work is productions that filmed in our native Canada.

[@xminusone1]

Nobody wanted a remake of that movie.

[@Polar_Bear_Ron]

The big red flags for me were when the director said “I wanted to update Eric to reflect a new generation; like when my friends and I were living in a London flat, listening to house music, and walking around in trench coats”. He not only pisses on Brandon Lee’s memory, but the memory of the people James O’Barr created The Crow comic for.

[@AKeyearea8]

Ok boomer

[@dorjedriftwood2731]

@@AKeyearea8ooff man someone saying ok a boomer is such a dated Refrence to say, your ironically making yourself look old. Using a ten year old meme. Memes aren’t slang they change every week. OK boomer was started by a Bernie Sanders supporter who did tick tok dances in twenty 16, meaning you’re probably close to thirty now lol. Old people using out of date memes is so cringe. Way to cringey self own.

[@dorjedriftwood2731]

I actually think that if they were going to remake it they should have gone for adapting the comic book, or continued the next film with Shelly as the main character. Thou unfortunately that would just become another invitation to make a girl boss. When will women go back to showing the power of femininity instead of trying to imitate insecure dudes.

[@AKeyearea8]

@@dorjedriftwood2731 40 actually

[@tbonegrady]

I'm 19 year old and big fan of the original comic and movie. I don't relate to Enrico (I'm giving this movie, the Dmc: Devil May Cry treatement) at all.

[@ajtheva6694]

Hollywood desperately needs to learn that if it ain't broke, don't fix it!

[@RiverRockRecords]

Hollywood: Oh but modern audiences Us: Bitch we are the audience

[@Marcos_Vermanos]

They’re not trying to fix anything. They’re looking for stuff that isn’t broken YET and doing it themselves.

[@Thetenmaumau]

It was broken for the wierdos, og movie had no gays and too many white ppl .... you know...problematic...

[@bmacaulay18]

Sadly their answer is how can we remonetize old stuff and make it modern?

[@wetstinkysocks2950]

Hollywood gives any well liked IP the will Smith slap and ruin their careers in film forever lol

[@jlogan2228]

Skarsgard is also just NOT intimidating. The scene where Lee approaches Tin Tin head down, teeth bared, arms out and the little oil drum fire lighting him below is SCARY, him entering Fun Boys apartment and being so aloof is scary, Lee didnt need to have a bunch of fuck boy tattoos and show how ripped he was to be intimidating, he just was able to be when it counted and able to be vulnerable when it counted.

[@Astfgl]

In fact Brandon even *lost* weight to be more convincing as an everyman who acquires supernatural powers. He was less ripped in that movie than he usually was. Brandon Lee's acting in The Crow is fantastic, as you mention he is absolutely menacing when dealing with his killers but in-between he is very gentle and kind to the people who care, yet you also feel this constant pain and barely controlled rage in his voice. He embodied the character so well and it's such a shame we didn't get to see more of him afterward. The Crow would have been his breakthrough role for sure.

[@762Super]

The thing is, the OG Eric had rage, real rage and absolutely justified.

[@Zyn88]

I wouldn't call Skarsgard "ripped". He's a dude in need of a sandwich

[@oscwildle1]

1000%

[@KerryViens]

Brandon Lee is just a better actor. Period.

[@RossIsFine]

So it's basically a documentary about Megan Fox and MGK

[@j.menapace625]

ORIGINAL CROW: A revenant returning to exact justice in a world where such a thing doesn't exist CROW REMAKE: A glorified photoshoot starring a Suicide Squad Joker cosplayer

[@treek10k]

Jesus Christ died for your sins on the cross. Repent and believe in him or you will be separated from God The Father for all eternity and face hell forever, for all eternity, never ending.

[@eugeneshadwell6596]

@@treek10k Nah, you're alright, but thanks!

[@sonofeyeabovealleffoff5462]

​@@treek10k No thanks.

[@blackbird6001]

*It would have been better if FKA Twigs had done a collaboration with Bill Skarsgård and they had just made a music video. This nightmare is something I’d rather erase from my memory and go back to watching the original film. Without a perfectly curated soundtrack, this movie is doomed to fail. What made 'The Crow' (1994) so special was the charisma and appearance of the incomparable Brandon Lee, the excellent action scenes, the plot, and, of course, the atmospheric music. Here, we’re left with poor casting, bad acting, a terrible, illogical, and boring plot where you feel absolutely no empathy. To top it off, they made the villains into ridiculous caricatures, like a crazy old man. Even a well-trained body covered in tattoos couldn’t save this disaster. The Crow was a musician with a good heart who lost his beloved and became an avenger, not some wannabe poser in the style of Lil Peep*

[@Urizen777]

@@treek10k You do you, man. Just do it the fuck away from unrelated comment sections. Cheers!

[@buckgulick3968]

The chance Hollywood will screw up a remake is... a) Absolute Certainty b) 100% Certainty c) 100% Absolute Certainty

[@SuperWiggler]

d) All of the above

[@maniacaldude]

In the modern era, definitely.

[@jwavada]

D; final answer

[@wittyjoker4631]

Inevitable.

[@KerryViens]

C

[@nawal10]

"I don't think I'll be coming back from the dead for this girl" 😂

[@TheMC1102]

Back in the day, a lot of people were comparing Heath Ledger's Joker to the Crow. Now a lot of people are comparing the new Crow to Jared Leto's Joker. One of these things is not quite like the other.

[@osmanyousif7849]

Well, there were those others, which nobody speaks of....

[@elperrodelautumo7511]

These roles scar the stars into legacy. Either it literally killed them or killed their career, regardless, it’s trying to make a good movie product. Only two of them were made from love. The others are an assembly line.

[@coolbreeze8193]

Dark Knight came out in 2008 and The Crow came out in 1994. No one was comparing Health Ledger's Joker to the Crow.

[@UncannyBeagle]

​@@coolbreeze8193Well the Dark Knight Rises didn't have Heath Ledger in it, so yeah...

[@viljamtheninja]

@@coolbreeze8193 ...what? The concept of comparing movies to older movies is entirely unknown to you?

[@HatOnAHat]

Let's compare the two crows: Brandon Lee: (Calm sincere voice) "They're all dead... they just don't know it yet!" Bill Skarsgard: (Whiny breaking voice) "I'm going to kill them. Every single one of them." One sounds intimidating and genuinely committed to his endeavor while the other sounds like a 13 year old boy whose bullies just put his head in a toilet and is fighting back tears. Fuck this movie!

[@LexingtonDeville984]

Brandon Lee was badass. Skarsgard just sounds like a pound shop Jason Todd, without Todd’s badass nature.

[@KerryViens]

Bill Skarsgard movie is for the TikTok audience. 😂

[@nunliski]

@@LexingtonDeville984 Brandon Lee's acting was awful.

[@blackbird6001]

@@nunliski Dude, if you think this is bad, I'm scared to find out what your tastes are in general! 😂

[@LexingtonDeville984]

@@nunliskiRemember when I asked for your opinion? Yeah, me neither.

[@dear_enemy4528]

Seriously, daylight scenes??????....Daylight has no place in The Crow universe. And why did they need to personify the power that brought him back from the dead. Why do directors need to spoon feed audiences these days, ambiguity makes movies good, makes people use their brains. I cant believe they did this to The Crow......

[@TheBuckMuscles]

Skull Cowboy worked way better in the comic, as well as the crow being able to talk to Eric, and encourage him.​@zogwort1522

[@baldpipesmoker1]

What a waste of Bill Skarsgard's talent. (I'm not sure how to spell his last name lol). This is how Hollywood is nowadays. Take a beloved movie from the past 30 years, remake it badly, no one likes it, they lose money, rinse and repeat. They never learn!😂

[@jamiepond6013]

It's such a shame. The original Eric and Shelly were interesting, happy people, and despite Shelly being absent for most of the film in the original movie, you could see through Eric's flashbacks how much they loved each other. Part of the reason why we end up rooting for Eric is because we see that they were geuinely good, innocent people that were subjected to an unfair fate neither of them deserved due to needless cruelty. This new version makes them completely unlikable to the point that they feel like entirely different characters, utterly divorced from the original material. Eric, Shelly, Officer Albrecht and Sarah represent the hope that has mostly been extinguished in the city, and its like all of that hope has been entirely stripped from the remake.

[@jimjam51075]

I just can't sympathize with a character that's a pushy who are. And that's who they decided to make Shelley into now.

[@1stMarDiv4341]

What's equally impressive about the original is Shelly is only briefly shown in a few flashbacks, yet those scenes portrayed so much love and decency. Meanwhile, we got 30 minutes between BIll Skarsgard and ATF Twigs yet they were completely unlikable.

[@ian.swift.31614]

look ive liked the movie since i was 9. i have most of the books, have had the dvd for something like 25 years, before i even owned a dvd player. i have a little figurine somewhere boxed up in a storage unit. the point is those characters arent interesting. at all.

[@IDiggPattyMayonnaise]

Don't forget in the original they talked about the good Shelly was doing for the neighborhood AND she was doing it openly. She wasn't trying to run or hide. That's what got her killed--being a GOOD person

[@sonia_kl99]

The only reason I could think of to redo The Crow, would be to make a version that was as faithful to the original graphic novel as possible, perhaps even a full-length animated film. Such a wasted chance.

[@1stMarDiv4341]

Major difference between these two is Brandon Lee's portrayal as Eric was charming, likeable, and even humorous (I love the scene where he sneaks inside Ernie Hudson's apartment, then dryly says "You still have your hat on.") at times. The love between him and Shelly felt real, despite only being shown in a few brief flashbacks. When they reunite at the end, it's a genuinely tearjerking scene. In contrast, Bill Skarsgard's Eric is, well, exactly how you mentioned. His relationship with ATF Twigs is based on lust rather than love, and because of the way they were written I didn't give a shit about them. Also, there were actual stakes in the OG film, as Eric was seemingly impervious to death until it's realized the crow holds this power, not him. Meanwhile, there are zero stakes in 2024's Eric, which means zero tension. I knew I'd hate this movie going on, but was borderline impressed with just how awful it was. A genuine 0/10. And RIP to Brandon Lee, as well as Michael Massee. I remember seeing an interview with him where he opened up about Lee's death, and, man, you could tell how much it haunted him. When he died in 2016 it was infuriating, because so many online headlines specifically mentioned he was the actor who killed Lee. Talk about tasteless.

[@eily_b]

Well said. Michael Massee was deeply affected by this tragedy, he had to give up acting for several years and I have a feeling he never got over it completely. It really haunted him for the rest of his life.

[@Erin-p5g]

Yawn

[@MaximilianonMars]

​@@Erin-p5g eat dirt

[@IceZachara]

Showed my girlfriend the original The Crow a few months ago after she said she'd never seen it. Afterwards she said she understood why I was so mad about the trailer for the remake.

[@stevenguajardo6049]

They completely ruined the story line, and the whole plot to the movie. The original was a goth masterpiece. This is just, why?

[@jules8876]

After this movie came out all I can think of is: "Victims. Aren't we all?"

[@Andrew-fq7pu]

Wait - if she's resurrected back to her ToD, then the "crow" parts never happened and the crime boss that wants her dead, is still around and still wants her dead. So as soon as he hears there was only one down, he'll just send another bunch of killers after her, and the version of Eric in this movie, who "saved" her despite being an impotent, whining man-child, can't do anything as he's rotting in Hell. Wow, what a script!!

[@tombarnett937]

Well, there's your sequel plot! It really is grim, isn't it? This whole tragedy is entirely due to that woman, and this guy she snags saves her bacon (literally), and then is completely mooted leaving her with no lingering guilt/duty/whatever. I hate how accurate the stereotype about female protagonists is, but damn if it isn't accurate in all but the most skilled writers' hands. Their characters really do exist with no logic or responsibility to the plot around them.

[@lm7_gio]

I dont think the writers of this are smart enough to understand basic timetravel rules bro.

[@GenJuhru]

I assumed the bad guy being corrupted/made a deal with the devil is also removed from this new timeline(?) since there's fate involved like "innocents not supposed to die"... I dunno the movie is so fking boring

[@garethjohnstone9282]

I was a big metalhead in the 90s, frequenting Jillys Rockworld in Manchester, got to know a few goths. The Crow was sacred, man. They should never have made this abomination.

[@Simon-xc5oy]

Yes. It was. I was not a Goth at the time, never had the courage. But I loved a lot of the music and was friends with a lot of the Goths because of that. And this film was something they were into in a big way. And it was sacred to them. I just liked the film it was unique for lots of reasons. And I always rather liked Goths as I say, they never seemed to start or cause trouble, just liked what they liked...And me being a total outcast and social disaster sound some common ground with them, even though I never belonged. It will always remind me of my youth and people I used to know who are long gone, and have that sadness about it because of it, for me anyway. When I heard a while back they were doing a remake of it I knew it was a bad idea. And it would be an utter disaster. And I was right...weary of this sort of thing now. You would think they would learn after the Robocop, Poltergeist, Total Recall and other utter debacle remakes that failed, because the originals were perfect and of their time....

[@garethjohnstone9282]

@Simon-xc5oy Same here. I loved my time as a metalhead in the 90s to late 00s. Good Times. Sadly, like you say, everything is just....gone, now. Just memories. The people, the times, the atmosphere. 'The Crow' was of its time, like you say. Like we were. Jillys rockworld was epic, I spent every Friday there from 8pm to 6am...the club is long closed down now. God I miss it.

[@themadmattster9647]

I hope there’s an old school Goth revival. So correct me if I’m wrong, but Draven isn’t even a musician in this remake, right?

[@Simon-xc5oy]

@@garethjohnstone9282 Yes, we had a similar place in our town. It was Perrys Cellar Bar. The ground floor was a normal pub / club and there was a staircase in the entry way that went down to a bar with dance floor in the cellars...and that was where the Goth music and alternate music was played...Upstairs it was crap like Jason Donovan and Kylie Minogue and Bros etc...In the cellar it was The Mission, The Cure, All About Eve and stuff like the Doors and Guns and Roses. It was always packed with people as it was the only place in town that played real music by proper bands, not the pop dross in the charts. And then one day the managers decided to end it and they banned the proper / Goth music....And the place emptied with many complaints and the whole bar staff resigning. They refused to change it back and the Cellar Bar became an empty room with a couple of people shuffling about at most. The Goths etc had to go elsewhere and it was truly sad as it was a central location and part of the vibe of the town. It never recovered from this and about a year and a half later the place closed down totally! So it worked out well for them all! That area of town had lots of pubs and was busy, last time I drove through they are all closed, its run down and empty. Sign of the times I suppose. It was the first time in my life that I encountered what has become Get Woke , Go Broke. By going against what the majority wanted the higher ups ended a successful money making venture which cost them all their jobs in the end....

[@garethjohnstone9282]

@themadmattster9647 Not seen it mate. And won't! Ever!

[@hobermallow5841]

It’s like someone said, “I want the most emo, whimpy looking crow in wanna-be history!” Mission Accomplished.

[@frankjoz2803]

The rolling stones magazine calling this guy out for being a hater against the Acolyte without knowing he's just a light showing us the shit they are feeding us.

[@Golden_Verses-1883]

oh.. they know.. and that's why

[@TruthTellert63]

'Stone' is a euphemism - it's actually a ball of hardened dung, produced from the converging of multiple heavy-flow sewer pipes. The result was left out in the sun too long - which also describes a 'magazine' several decades past its sell-by date.

[@BrianWaugh-fy4wh]

The rolling stone should be renamed 'The Rolling Shit'

[@Thor-Orion]

Rolling Stone hasn’t mattered at all since Matt Taibi left. He was the only worthwhile staff they had.

[@wilfredoUbatuba]

​@@Thor-Orion and Hunter Thomson

[@vishaansingh1019]

It is a franchise that should be permanently put to rest, the original comic's author wrote it purely as a grief outlet for his fiance dying to a DUI and he openly hates that it ended up being a franchise.

[@mechboltxl4591]

Brandon Lee can be the only real crow.

[@robirvine6970]

That's not remotely true, he wrote a LOT of other comics, stories and helped in the crow 2.

[@vishaansingh1019]

@@robirvine6970 I never said that he never wrote anything else or that he never contributed to it again. What I'm saying is verifiably true, you can look it up.

[@chucksenhowzen9740]

Borderlands: *Worst movie of 2024* Crow 2024: *Hold my Feather* 🪶

[@Btobebone]

they say when a franchise dies, a blue haired nutjob buries it. and sometimes when they die with such regret, that same blue haired nutjob will dig them up and tie puppet strings around them to make it dance one more time

[@Walupeach4528]

Something will top it, trust me

[@maverickmic]

Man this comment trope is dated 😂

[@maxryan9052]

The writer of the comic lost both his girlfriend and friend Brandon Lee through the making of The Crow, he blamed himself for it intensely for years, citing that if he had never created the comic, Lee would still be alive. It was Brandons first BIG role, the one that was supposed to make him a household name, and it tragically was his last. The movie itself is the best homage to Lee, and even the idea of remaking it is just plain disrespectful to the man who lost his life making the original film.

[@cord113]

The original The Crow graphic novel was so good because James O'Barr poured his heart into it as a way of dealing with the death of his fiance after she was killed by a drunk driver. That's why it had so much soul to it. O'Barr also helped work on the script of the original film, which is another reason it actually worked.

[@RavenousDrake]

He also hated drugs, and would never in a million years have cast Shelly as a drug addict. That may be the most disrespectful act this film commits.

[@givensurname1296]

Damn. That somehow makes Brandon's death on set and the movie dedication to his fiancee, Eliza (?), even more heartbreaking...

[@alexdoorn234]

@@givensurname1296 Yeah James has said before that he wished he never wrote The Crow after Brandon died, those two became friends during filming The Crow.

[@stumblestutter]

I’m glad she die.d and that he blamed himself for it

[@xkidmidnightx]

The best Crow remake was Sting fighting the NWO

[@rphntw1n]

Best comment.

[@thirdstrike4u]

Lmao

[@Golden_Verses-1883]

"Quoth the Raven"

[@steelegriffiths8650]

The original had the skill to show you a few seconds of their relationship and deaths, here and there, just at key moments - snippets and hints that were enough to convey so much backstory and emotion. Shelly was this wonderful and ethereal concept built in our minds by the images and things people said about her. It sounds like this one can't muster anything close, even when they spend half the film on trying to flesh-out her and the relationship. Reminds me of the emotion at the beginning of Pixar's "Up" - that managed to leave me in sobbing tears right at the beginning of the movie with just a couple of minutes of lifetime/marriage montage. Where are the good writers? Where are the good story-boarders, directors and editors? Sort of feels like everything is "Student films: Gone Wild" these days - mildly enthusiastic amateurs left to their own devices ... maybe with someone competent hidden in the mix trying to get things back on track so that it's not just left in a cabinet or on the cutting room floor. I guess Star Wars could have had the same fate, if not for George's wife editing the shit out of it.

[@andrewpopely9511]

Brandon lee’s The Crow is lightning in a bottle. One of the best films ever made including some amazing performances. Why the hell would anyone try and remake this masterpiece? Makes no sense at all.

[@GenJuhru]

But they (I mean the Industry) can tho, it's just another revenge story plus superpowers and you can already think of movies with the same-y plot that did well long after The Crow.

[@sonofagreatsouthernland]

A snapshot of the average mind of a Hollywood Exec......money grabbing morons.

[@Shuizid]

Because money and why have new ideas if you got name recognition?

[@waqarsolangi3338]

Masterpiece...😂😂

[@waqarsolangi3338]

You can say it was good movie but masterpiece is just way overstatement

[@tomj.7599]

Another film that nobody asked for, wanted and need it. There is only one Crow and there will always be only one Crow.

[@brianleibforth2337]

Not true I’ve been asking for a crow movie for over 10 years. Also city of angels is painfully underrated

[@tomj.7599]

@@brianleibforth2337 And, are you happy?

[@sleptonitsundays9531]

Movie wise there are 5 Crows. There just happens to only be 1 that you enjoy.

[@FaceBack18]

There's only one Crow... only ever gonna be one Crow.

[@brianleibforth2337]

@@tomj.7599 I have not seen the movie yet so im not sure. Although even if it is as bad as everyone say I still want studios to explore the IP

[@videowilliams]

I've met Alex Proyas, director of the original movie, twice, and the first time was a near half-hour conversation he started with me and not the other way around. He is not only one of cinema's outstanding visualists but also a genuinely nice and witty man who went through the wringer after Brandon Lee's on-set death with the family begging him to finish the film as Brandon's memorial, leading to one of the very first uses of face replacement technology on the big screen. So the original's shot through with soul and symbolism that came straight from the heart and a crappy remake's something I take personally. Hollywood is freaking bankrupt at a spiritual level now, and truly needs to die and come back as something else.

[@brettloo7588]

+1

[@videowilliams]

@@brettloo7588 Thanks, man.

[@thomassandoval8025]

I love Proyas' movies. I wish I had more. The Crow and Dark City are in my top 5 favorites.

[@SubZero-hs9xc]

@@videowilliams Dark City from him is also underated af, One of the Best sci fi movies ever, it costed a fraction of Matrix for sayng,

[@videowilliams]

@@thomassandoval8025 Oh yes. And I love how he handled "I, Robot" (2004) starring Will Smith- now THAT one's a feast for the eyes, and in daylight for once :D

[@psycho850912]

To bad.... for a second i had hope when i read that bill skasgard is involved.... So i stick to the timeless classic with the iconic brandon lee! Thanks for the warning!

[@rolfyoutube586]

Brandon Lee is The Crow. He took that role and made it his own. He brought it to the screen. No one has come close.

[@n.7482]

Vincent Perez was decent

[@nunliski]

Brandon Lee's acting was terrible. The original movie is silly. Wtf are you talking about?

[@xkidmidnightx]

No. Sting is the Crow. The second he came down from the rafters and took out the NWO with his bat, he took the role over.

[@blackbird6001]

@@nunliski😮 oh yeah, let's start calling drug-fueled hookups true love, like in the new movie? There's absolutely nothing that makes you empathize with the characters. Give them an award for the boring plot, annoying characters, and lousy music. And I won't even get started on the dumb, wooden acting.

[@WolfStory]

​@@nunliski The 1994 Crow was amazing and it became a cult classic for a reason. So, about 99% of the population will repeat what i'm about to say to you... 'Wtf are YOU talking about?'

[@macbruno357]

No one wanted a dime store version of Jared Leto's joker, shocking.

[@John_Locke_108]

Especially because Leto gave us a dime store version of the Joker.

[@stephenwalsh4481]

​@@John_Locke_108yeah that was shit

[@KaiserFlash]

@@John_Locke_108 So it's worth about a penny then. Sounds about right.

[@nickkoyle3599]

Yea but you owe the penny plus the tax. Which is everything you love right down in the 💩

[@MadMaz1983]

Didn't they learn from The Crow sequels that everyone hated & we all forgot about? Apparently not...so they get what they deserve for this tragedy

[@Thetenmaumau]

shhhh a little fly inside the rooms told me they did look upon the sequels but they were problematic, not bad but problematic, meaning too many whities and not enough soup letter.... but shhhhh i told you nothing and deny everything.

[@rateater1857]

@@Thetenmaumau Oh shut up already. They don't really give a shit about all that, they just wanted to make MONEY. the motivation to remake old classics isn't giving more black or gay people screentime, it's MONEY.

[@Maladjester]

The people who made this weren't even born when all those shitty sequels were made.

[@erroneous6947]

Wasn’t Edward furlong (terminator 2) in one of those awful remakes?

[@wesleywarsmith1113]

City of Angels was cool. The others were lame.

[@McmxtTV]

Bro, love your work, I agree with you all the time, youre insights are stellar, your consistently siting the need for narrative, plot points, character development, consequences - good writing - are inspiring. I haven't enjoyed much that has been made in the last 10 years. Writers who don't understand or care about the source material keep getting hired to Fck up franchises and films - we've seen it in star wars, lord of the rings, even the MCU where the writers don't understand why the first Iron Man was so good. To remake the crow is a terrible idea because the first is such an iconic film. They could have made a story of another person who undergoes the same story arc as the first, or a variant where the main character was a female instead of male, or they could have elaborated on the lore in a prequel that happened in ancient times, which would give us the modern crow legend that enabled the Brandon Lee film. but instead of any of that we got a power point presentation of violence, bad ideas, and points on a graph for a film school to show students what not to do in film 101. Thank you for your great work!

[@JakeDelanois]

This remake blatantly disregards the essence and aesthetics of the original. These reiterations should enhance the originals, not belittle them. This Crow remake is an example of how creativity can be stifled in the name of commerce.

[@NotThisBrayne]

During an interview with James O Barr the creator of The Crow he mentioned that at a meeting with some of the studio executives one of them opted that they could hire Michael Jackson and make the movie a Fucking MUSICAL and he said to the executive "look if you're gonna fuck up the original premise that bad just write your own movie and let us do The Crow!" I'd have to go back and see the interview again to see what he said exactly but that pretty much sums it up. Fortunately Brandon , Alex Proyas (the director) and James had enough power to push the original vision through and the rest is history. But honestly, if THIS is what they did to The Crow I would rather watch the musical! I hope James O Barr took his name of this.

[@sonia_kl99]

I love seeing all the discussion and positive emotions that are still attached to the 1994 original !! In a month nobody will even remember this remake except with disdain

[@electricbayonet2]

Do the writers realize how damaging it is to Shelly's character if knows that there are murderous gangsters after her, gets Eric involved to aid her escape, and then faffs about until they're both found and killed? And how much it spits in the face of the original film's fundamentally optimistic tone to make it possible for _evil gang wizards_ to unilaterally send innocent souls to hell?

[@sleptonitsundays9531]

You are not wrong but to be fair... - Shelly asks Eric to help her escape. He then decides to follow her after being locked up for who knows how long. - She tells him that he shouldn't stay with her but he decides to anyway. - At the apartment she again tells him he probably shouldn't be with her but again, he chooses to stay. - At one point she even metaphorically talks about jumping off a bridge to see what Eric would do and he said he would follow her. - The both get murdered and he returns from the dead to get revenge for her. I'm just saying (as a man) that Eric heard Shelly but made his own decisions as grown ass men do so its not so much an insult to Shelly's character as it is to Eric's when he's ultimately around when she's being murdered. Either way its crap writing.

[@TimothySlickback]

I knew better than to watch this film. As a matter of fact i just found out a couple of days ago there are other remakes. I wouldn't disrespect Brandon Lee like that. The original Crow was a masterpiece in my opinion.

[@pwcabach]

The original was full of wisdom and insight. One of my favourite interactions from the original: Sarah Mohr: “You didn’t say goodbye.” Eric Draven: “You’re just going to have to forgive me for that.” Yep. Eric couldn't CHANGE what happened. He could only avenge whet happened and try to effect the NOW, in short time that he had. As always, thanks for the insights, Drinker.

[@veritas4364]

*affect

[@Original-Juice]

"There ain't no coming back man, this is the really real world man, there ain't no comin' back.. There ain't no COMING BACK!" - T Bird (Circa 1994) R.I.P.

[@henrlima87]

"Amashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is" That scene is fantastic.

[@dbsommers1]

​@@henrlima87the moment he realized there is an afterlife and he's not going to be enjoying it.

[@davidlopan7152]

that scene was frickin' ... just.... wow.

[@PricklyCube]

Such an amazing scene.

[@tonyc8752]

Fire it up!! Fire it up!!

[@jaykincer7869]

The Brandon Lee film holds a sacred spot with virtually everyone between the age of 35-50 who saw it. It was more than a film, it was a cultural moment. The soundtrack, the tragic circumstances around the production, the beautiful and delicate way the studio and everyone involved handled the release, it moved people in a way that can only happen organically. No studio or production company could replicate its impact, it's just something that happened. The sequels could never recapture it, the TV series could not, and no remake will be able to. There are other "Crow" stories to be told, James O'Barr has written many. But Eric Draven's story has been told, and sadly it will forever be the swan song of Brandon Lee. This mockery of a film deserves to be blasted as the worst film of 2024. Now cue up the original film's soundtrack and shed a tear in the memory of Mr. Lee.

[@toddjohnson5176]

Very well said. You are exactly right. Best comment so far!💯

[@righthandwolf306]

*So say we; so say we all.*

[@eily_b]

Well said. This ⬆

[@Rat_King_Reviews]

Just watched the new version and enjoyed it quite a lot especially some of the kills and i was around when the brandon lee crow was released and had it on vhs and i enjoyed both films ❤

[@anabidingdude8079]

Probably the most baffling aspect of this whole endeavor is that the Crow doesn't have to be tied down to one story, time period or aesthetic. You easily turn this into an anthology of films (or a TV series) that could jump time periods, geography, and characters. The theme of avenging a wronged love, which is the heart of the story, is timeless and placeless. Old West Crow? Feudal Japan Crow? Tudor England Crow? The possibilities are endless. It's these studio hacks that can't think outside the aesthetic of the original film, which they have a snowball's chance in hell of competing with in the first place.

[@leileyaravencroft]

They actually did turn the original Crow into a television series. A while after the last sequel. It didn’t last long.

[@sleptonitsundays9531]

Finally a comment I totally agree with.

[@trequor]

Yes, except this would be boring because all the stories would be fundamentally the same

[@josephfisher426]

@@trequor But this is different than the outcome we've gotten how?

[@trequor]

@@josephfisher426 What?

[@jaceyking47]

Seems like a response to the "Fridging" trope. Like, "Oh the original had the main female love interest killed in a horrific manner that sent the protagonist on a revenge quest from beyond the grave, can't have that in 2024! Let's make her more fleshed out and more of a character and have _her_ be the one to survive in the end!" I hate that. I hate it so much. "Fridging" should be a term wiped from the English lexicon. It's just character motivations, and sometimes a horrific death is a motivation.

[@Thomasmemoryscentral]

At least Shelley isn’t The Crow at the end! At least some Justice came out!

[@Keeki95]

The real problem is nitwits who started acting like all tropes were "sins" of bad storytelling. There's nothing inherently wrong with using common patterns.

[@windowsVD]

As usual, they only care if it’s a female character getting “fridged”. You’ll never hear those same people complain when it’s a male character biting the dust to give the female protagonist motivation, like Praetorian Jack dying horrifically off-screen to give Furiosa motivation to hunt down “what’s his face” played by Chris Hemsworth. Not a single lick of outrage whatsoever.

[@generalhorsecok7331]

Isn't fridging when a character is killed or removed from the story to advance the plot or temporary shock factor in universe, only to be forgotten?

[@windowsVD]

@@generalhorsecok7331 It can technically be that, but the trope is usually in reference to a female character getting abruptly killed off to give a male character motivation to advance the plot and his journey.

[@occultnightingale1106]

The Crow (1994) is my favorite movie of all time, and for that reason alone, I am forbidden from seeing this remake. I already saw Eric murdered and Shelley brutally defiled once, I don't need to see it again.

[@ScrambledAndBenedict]

That's the most annoying thing about these awful remakes. It's not enough that they try to cheaply capitalize off of the real one, but they also have to try to steal its identity with the same name, so now we have to say The Crow 1994 or Ghostbusters 1984. If they're going to rough up old franchises to steal pocket change from them, the very least they could do is have some class and give them a bad name like "The Crow Reborn" or Ghostbusters Re-Energized" or something.

[@benjaminterlinked7182]

calling this the worst movie of 2024 is absurd. we got borderlands and madame web this year or did you already forget that?

[@CapucineNighly]

No.. This takes the cake. The other 2 would prolly be in the top 3 after this garbage dump.

[@daveburden]

The thing is... her dialogue probably WAS written by an edgy 13 year old Tumblr author, now grown up.

[@derekbrown6161]

Older, not grown up.

[@NikeaTiber]

When I was in highschool (class of '01) my friend made a comic strip called "The Scrow" It was loosely based on The Crow, except the main character had a ballsack for a face. It was hands down a better remake than this tripe.

[@jamesdalton2014]

Was the character's favorite drink Old Scrow bourbon, by any chance?