She-Hulk - This Is Rock Bottom

[@seanmurphy7011]

“A good novel tells us the truth about its hero, but a bad novel tells us the truth about its author.” G.K. Chesterton

[@D0NU75]

that's a very amusing line, it's kind of how you can tell a good story from a fanfic

[@jeremyk9000]

great quote

[@tomharrington1453]

I still believe (or fear) the Jen character is an aspirational character for Disney +'s target audience. She drinks, she wears fancy clothes, she hooks ups with hot guys, and she beats up the men who threaten her. It's a chick fantasy for real blue collar chicks-- their, sort of, misinformed dream of a cool, successful life. If this show gets multiple seasons, we will have conformation that there is a very sad, very lonely, cohort of women out there who dream of being.... awful to the world.

[@aliid4339]

@@tomharrington1453 we don't need multiple seasons to get a confirmation about that.

[@paulw5039]

@@tomharrington1453 Rise of the legbeards. The population of obese, bitter, loveless catladies has risen dramatically in the past decade or so.

[@gavinburke2572]

Love the way she condescends to Bruce who: -got turned into the hulk and had to abandon the love of his life and go on the run -got driven to depression from guilt of the people the hulk had killed and likely being lonely and tried to commit suicide - was coerced into hurting ppl as the hulk again in Ultron - had 2 years of his life taken away when the hulk took control of him - lost Natasha and saved the half the universe -then had his cousin tell him to f off when he tried to help her!!

[@colinmaroe5064]

I feel as if this is a perfect portrayal of men vs women in the modern world.

[@simonl2072]

But she has experience of being a women!!!!!! Forget Thanos and his army....shit just got real!!

[@shadowraven3253]

Wasn't there a scene where he said that he tried to end it several times but the hulk just spit the bullet out?

[@simonl2072]

@@shadowraven3253 yeah....but he's never been bothered at a bar and had to smile because someone took an interest in them in a social environment.

[@DystruktoBoi1]

@@shadowraven3253 Yup, in Ultron I think

[@theplaguegamer6216]

I love how every time he says "The Message" he sounds more tired and spiteful as he rightly should be.

[@dymitchell]

I noticed that too. Hilarious!

[@Anonymous-jv5hq]

Kills me everytime 😂

[@stubblytuna4068]

It gets more saltier every time he says it

[@darrengordon-hill]

Because he DOES hate women

[@narem1092]

T H E R U L E S

[@Kyra-qn3nh]

Telling Bruce to shut up so she can rant about how she knows more about anger management than him is *so painful* because I know they're trying to make it look like Bruce is 'mansplaining' when he genuinely knows what he's talking about and is only trying to help her. She's the one doing the 'talking over you because i think your entire gender has inferior intellect' thing. 🤦‍♀️

[@MrGamis]

"Mansplaining" = word used to ward off common sense or good advice being offered simply because its a male giving it

[@tttttttttttttttp12]

I have been in a hospital bed for years now, but when she-hulk came on the television, it finally gave me the strength to stand up out of bed and jump out the window, bless them 🙏

[@Glettuce]

​​​​@@tttttttttttttttp12this reminds me of a similar experience where my deaf grandpa magically spoke and told me to turn this fucking garbage off.truly a beautiful moment i owe to she hulk.

[@tttttttttttttttp12]

@@Glettuce Miracles happen everywhere 🤗

[@OfficialYouTubeModerator]

​@@tttttttttttttttp12I watched this show on a plane and it was so bad people still got up and walked out.

[@siraskalon3793]

“Am I going to jail?” “No, but I would like you to.” As someone currently in law school, I don’t need to finish my classes to know that she is one of the worst attorneys imaginable.

[@necro4258]

yeah but it was funny, haha, laugh! Im still laughing 30 minutes after I heard the “joke.”

[@DVX_BELLORVM]

I didn't watch the episode, but it looked like a civil case, which has nothing to do with jail.

[@justintime41776]

Funny. I had a lawyer tell me it would be good for me to go to prison. No joke.

[@therealistintheboot8822]

@@justintime41776 It was time you should've switched after or reported him somehow.

[@Pero-zl4jp]

You’re living my future nightmare/dream rn. In my freshman year of college and I want to go to law school.

[@thefanwithoutaface8105]

Jen in the comics was an immensely likeable character, a formerly shy and awkward woman who gained self confidence after becoming She-Hulk, learning to genuinely appreciate who she was and become more outgoing, friendly, and such but even before that was also a compassionate and considerate person always willing to lend a hand, especially to her cousin Bruce who she both thanked for the power given to her and also felt regret towards knowing she lucked out on getting a transformation that was easier to control. She-Hulk could've easily been the female character Marvel and Disney had been wanting for years, one tons of people would happily line up to watch. Instead they took everything likeable about her and tore it out, basically making her a sad, bitter, selfish, naracisstic, misandrist, clown who only cares about her job, which she's utterly terrible at by the way, and never shows even a shred of compassion for anyone that isn't her. Talk about dropping the ball hard.

[@darrengordon-hill]

Name ONE PERSON she's helped as a lawyer!! ONE TIME her efforts have "helped the little guy"!! She's a lawyer for the STATUS/LinkdIn profile Kim Wexler and Jimmy McGill out here righting wrongs...

[@ssgdean1969]

Any similarity between the comic book version and this version is completely accidental.

[@abyssbun444]

How unfortunate that I saw that coming….Even a fighting game with no story (MVC3) made her likable.

[@michaelhejja]

Yep, the creator basically putting her own sad pathetic self into the character.

[@JohnWick-rh1zz]

If anyone wanna see a better version of she-hulk you guys can go watch the 90s incredible hulk cartoon or the fantastic four cartoon

[@blyat8832]

The drinker forced himself to watch this dumpster fire so we don't have to. Gotta respect him for that

[@TheGoodLuc]

A truly heroic man; he sees so much shit so we don't need to.

[@c_Durka]

Agreed

[@goji059]

i sincerely do

[@dirtycrewman]

No wonder he drinks.

[@JustNobodyButME]

Not all heroes wear capes

[@HenriqueLSilva]

This show really illustrates its authors well: Banner didn't choose to become the hulk, and had to live through a time when he was hunted like a monster, had no control over his transformation or memories of what he'd do, and was forced to keep on going despite serious depression simply because his other self wouldn't let him die. He had and still has to live knowing he's hurt and potentially killed a lot of people, and the one person who could genuinely relate to him when it comes to feel like a monster had to die to undo Thanos' doings. Despite all that, he managed to improve himself and grow as a person, cementing the hulk as a hero rather than a monster. She-hulk was also an accident, but her powers came with essentially no drawbacks, and came at an age when the hulk was already recognized as a hero, not a monster. She didn't have to worry about running away, being hunted down, loosing control or accidentally causing suffering to others. Despite this, she's certain she's had it worse than Banner because she had to deal with people doubting her skills and catcalling her. "yeah I know your life was pretty much hell for quite a period, but my life isn't 100% perfect either and you're a man, so maybe it's time you quit being selfish and realize who the real victim is"

[@caidynsorrensen7615]

Deadset facts

[@nova.miller]

She-Hulk was pretty fucking dogshit, but that's what happened in the comics too

[@RRRRRRRRR33]

It's funny how it became a competition, who is the bigger victim. Meanwhile the rich continues to abuse the system, regardless of their skin color, gender or whatever, the upper class is the real opressor in my pov all this "woke" bullshit is just a annoying distraction

[@realdragon]

His parent literally experimented on him, mutated monsters were sent after him. Poor Bruce just wanted to study biology

[@collind7158]

Yeah but it's not bad at all, like I dislike feminists and I also hate having shit forced on me but She hulk being hated is a bad thing It's a show about a pretty much straight woman who isn't perfect, she's cringe at times and embarrassing and she fucks up alot. She is mad about men who don't have her as her preference and the show talks about problems that women have that are jokes FOR women. That's not a bad thing whatsoever you just don't resonate with it because you want to hate it. Like I swear black widow is way worse, she can defeat any man and in almost every marvel show a women has to at least somewhat defeat a man or be his equal very rarely do they ever win and that's a problem not because women can't win but because they can't ever show them as flawed they portray them as perfect She hulk never does this at all so if you're upset about it or are butt hurt over what she said to the hulk than honestly you really do just dislike women and probably are an incel. The show makes so many jokes at women's expense and it's different and entertaining. Deadpool 2 is cringe, black widow sucked, Moon Knight is really boring and way too pretentious. You should appreciate a show that doesn't actually try to make a women the exact same as a man and show the differences between them in a tasteful way. The guys hating this show you act straight up exactly like liberals, like think you're apart of this club that laughs at it but in reality you come off like You've never had a date and that's a cliche thing to say I know but there's no other reason to hate the show other than it's not an action show. Is it as good as daredevil of course not is it a 10/10 of course not but it's a good show and the first one I've seen in awhile that portrays girls as well girls that have their own strengths and weaknesses

[@hyrenaj2888]

You gotta wonder how difficult the people writing this character must be to deal with if they think this is a positive portrayal

[@NotTheStinkyCheese]

they probably got hired for this show ... just to shut them up. Kind of like how you throw an angry dog a juicy steak because that temporarily stops him from biting you ... (and yes ... once he's done he will be back, even angrier because he knows that his threats worked ... )

[@Red_Lanterns_Rage]

there's one way to deal with em.... XXX GET IN HERE!!! several minutes later YOU'RE FIRED NOW PACK YOUR SHIT AND GET OUT!!!!

[@lethalbox909]

The sad truth is, I have personally dealt with people like this. No, not on Twitter. As in, a girl who sent me a thousand word txt message on the perils of toxic masculinity. Something that I was unaware of because I made this person feel uncomfortable for offering her a t-shirt I bought that was too small for me. TLDR: It’s creepy and entitled when you do it, because, men bad. But, a woman doesn’t have ulterior motives. Despite me having a strictly platonic history with this person for several weeks. I offered her for us to cool off and come back to the subject when we can have a healthier conversation. Nope. Men bad. Leave me alone. K

[@obiwankenobi661]

theyre middle aged women and single. all you need to know.

[@Yarblocosifilitico]

@@obiwankenobi661 Bs!! They're also narcissists, and that's the key characteristic ;P

[@roninvince]

Moral of the she-hulk story: with great power, comes absolutely no accountability or responsibility, and you can just re-write reality if it doesn't suit you.

[@blueanodized]

Marxism 101...

[@quanghuyvo6112]

@@blueanodized nal man marxism is all about economic this shit have nothing to do with it

[@mavvynne444]

Marxism 101

[@Samsaknight]

I mean it is her show

[@achintyasrivastava2010]

@@Samsaknight So what ? The show is for the fans and future of the MCU.

[@chazm9458]

"It makes Amy Schumer look like Dave Chapelle" is the most savage burn against this show that I have heard and it totally fits

[@JB-pk8gd]

i fucking cringed hearing that because if she hulk is actually that bad holy shit

[@OneDapperFrog]

@@JB-pk8gd kzbin.info/www/bejne/lWmom4Onoderg5Y Here is a guy breaking down each and every episode if you want to know just how bad it is without being miserable lol.

[@prathapkutty7407]

Nah amy is way worse

[@osmanyousif7849]

He actually meant to say Lilly Singh or Samantha Bee….

[@ghosttheprogram6973]

@@osmanyousif7849 you can basically add any female comedian there and get the same result

[@DaMaster012]

She-Hulk: "I'm absolute worst, rock-bottom content that Marvel can possible produce." Secret Invasion: "Hold my Bud Light." The Marvels: "Hold our feminist agenda."

[@joec7217]

No I'd argue She Hulk is worse than Secret Invasion. Both are terrible tho

[@arishemthejudge6780]

@@joec7217yall are seriously watching? i was a hardcore mcu fan but the only disney+ i was able to finish was loki. falcon and wanda i just stopped caring about it midway through. watched the first episode of moon knight a year ago and thats about it. was able to watch thor love and thunder over the span of 2-3 months, i just try to keep up with the movies. wakanda forever was decent, i could do it in 2 days. saw ant-man in theatres for kang.

[@AtlasGmng]

Honestly Secret Invasion was about 3% better than this garbage, and it was all down to Samuel L Jackson. Yes they butchered the character of Nick Fury and tore him to pieces, but Samuel L Jackson is just by his nature more entertaining than She-Hulk.

[@Medknow22]

Captain marvel joined the chat

[@Mereologist]

Miss Marvel actually had lower viewership than She-Hulk. Hard to believe that's possible, I know. But it happened.

[@spacemanspiff9780]

The "rich, liberal women problems" thing is fucking spot on. Thanks for watching this so the rest of us didn't have to drinker.

[@ss_avsmt]

It's not spot on. It's a poor stereotype and he said in a comical light. Rest of the video is spot on though.

[@superploc]

Heroes nor always use capes... or are sober...

[@jahmelbrewster4568]

@@ss_avsmt yes it is

[@justarobo_]

@@ss_avsmt Look at the writing cast of the show. It IS spot on!

[@hirakaiko5570]

@@ss_avsmt Of the Hollywood ultra-rich woman - it's pretty accurate. They simultaneously manage to be both hyper-privileged while blaming others for just about everything and playing the victim while not acknowledging they're amongst the most privileged people on the planet.

[@davidbraccini4770]

It’s quite ironic that for the writers She Hulk is supposed to portray women in a better light than men but in reality they do the exact opposite and they are not even aware of it. I mean aren’t we going to talk about She Hulk sending back Abomination to prison, after being there for years, just for transforming into Abomination to do a Jordan Belfort speech about motivation to an internet conspiracy movement, in wich when things get heated he even tries to defend She Hulk herself?

[@Unapologeticweeb]

because it sounds like the writers of this garbage frequent r/femaledatingstrategies and thus have no understanding of men or woman who aren't spiteful vindictive box wine drinking cat having 40 year old femcels

[@moritod]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS. Ahem. All of this.

[@cloudshines812]

She Hulk’s writing is so bad to the point where I actually warned my parents that if they watch this show, they will HATE how it just paints a bad picture for not just men, or women… but HUMANITY. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a worse way to create any types of characters than this show

[@kopf-heldtotalneuro-logisc8479]

I thought they stage the show to make us think the show is superstupid and then makes something great,… but Noo, you cant to that for so many episodes And now i think too that the writers are really soooo stupid to not realize what they do to woman with this

[@clone1eighty7]

Reason and accountability are hard to conjure up when u don't have it

[@TheDavid2222]

"Rich liberal women problems." I think you absolutely nailed it.

[@TheDavid2222]

@yes that video is nuts

[@SpaceJawa]

You could potentially phrase it more simply as "Karen Problems".

[@TangoNevada]

That's fine. But I think it applies to "rich Conservative Women" just as well.

[@punchdreadnought8101]

​@@TangoNevada women in general. And in the opposite spectrum to feminism, we have Andrew Tate. The world is going out sad lmao. But at least conservatives did not vote for a senile old man. Now, America is not fucked, it is steadily fucked. (cries in inflation ONLY increasing a few inches according to senile old man)

[@JosephSAMUELJonesMommyTammTamm]

@@TangoNevada lmao! Far from it.

[@dutube99]

"The writer's own hangups and personal insecurities projected right onto the screen" describes most of Hollywood, and a large segment of news reporting, and perhaps most of the Arts in general.

[@PassDaMethod]

I'm gonna go ahead and lump in 99% of what women put on social media in there too.

[@thetorturepenguin]

The pure hatred in his iconic “go away now” really emphasised the mental strain this show inflicted on him

[@osmanyousif7849]

You would think that by episode three, he’d just say enough is enough….

[@eddthehead123]

I noticed that as well. Certainly had a lot more bite this time.

[@ragnadrabinowitz7629]

yeah, he sure has a weak sense of self.

[@marcocymro5031]

As he said, he watches this shit so we don’t have to… and thank fuck for that! Not all heroes wear capes, some drink copious amounts of whisky! 🍻

[@DavidSmith-ss1cg]

You should try educating yourself; start with Jerry Mander's under-appreciated "Four Arguments for the Elimination of Television." He's trying to reach the minds of a nation of brainwashed people(H.L.Mencken called the American people "The Boob-Wah-See") who may not deserve saving. Look what happened to Jesus of Nazareth when HE tried to save the world. It does NOT hurt him to know the the would-be humans in America cling so desperately to their ignorance; they cling to Religion quite vigorously even though it's obviously bad for them. And don't get me started on consuming stuff that's bad for them. That's all I have for you for now. I won't say go away, it seems to trigger you; I already know not to tell you to get lost, because you might show up here again.

[@abu269]

She-Hulk pretty much destroyed Banner Hulk within the first episode. She literally tells him how she's "infinitely" better at controlling her anger than him because her struggles are far worse than what he's been through. So just to compare, Banner Hulk spent years on the run hiding from the government trying to hunt him down, spent years meditating to control his anger, sacrificed his love life (twice) to protect them from his alter ego, tried to commit suicide on several occasions,fought in 4 wars (3 of them against alien races), was trapped in the Hulk body for over 2 years trapped in an another planet, almost got killed by Thanos, and sacrificed himself to bring back half of all living creatures across the entire universe using the Infinity Stones. But that is nothing compared to being a 30 something successful, female lawyer being cat-called! 🤷

[@nadavegan]

This is what lots of white women actually believe though. They really think they are horribly persecuted.

[@thecompanioncube4211]

You know... Women problems be women problems. They trump everything in the eyes of Disney

[@Scientist-exe]

Dont forget his childhood trauma.

[@Theendman42]

All that effort and you get a bot to respond to you…well anyways, I don’t know I would trust anyone who says they don’t agree with this comment. The writers know nothing about the material that came before.

[@stevenscott2136]

Every time I see that clip, I want him to lose control and beat her to death. "Yup," he says to her pulped corpse, "I guess I DO lack control." Ruffalo can even cry about it, if he insists.

[@TheAutistWhisperer]

You can tell the writers have deep unresolved insecurities.

[@Brotherbear75]

Totally agree man…. Fat chick who could not get some

[@isaiah2028]

30-something southern Californian liberal women trying to write a confident individual who has it all together and has what it takes to overcome adversity. It is impossible for a writer to portray what they have never personally experienced.

[@phantomspaceman]

They're all women. Hulk is probably supposed to be their fathers.

[@cloudshines812]

The writers of this show is like the developer of Baldi’s Basics. They must’ve had a terrible childhood, that they let out their horrific PTSD on a frustrating and horrendous product

[@2Sherm]

Alt-reality feminists and beta soy boys.

[@RalphieMaysGhost]

Men as lawyers in film: Greedy, womanizing, lying scumbags. Women as lawyers in film: Strong, smart and clever.

[@daveygivens735]

You think this is bad, wait till Disney makes They-hulk.

[@davehudson6276]

Haha for sure

[@Theviewerdude]

Dear god

[@chainingten3819]

"ITS MAAM"

[@mayhem4masses363]

Lmao it's coming 🤣

[@RR-mm6yl]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@michaelreich4827]

When Jen woman-splained to Hulk about his area of expertise while lamenting "incompetent men" man-splaining her area of expertise, the self-awareness was off the charts.

[@salami3011]

Went to pause the show and get a drink after hearing that 😊

[@randylahey8207]

It's in many ways the essence of the discord sowed over decades that has created the mess we're in. Complete and total tunnel vision, leading to lack of self awareness..

[@Antonio-ys5zd]

After that court scene with Matt Murdock I want to see what she classifies as the incompetent men explaining her area of expertise

[@trolleriffic]

Would have been the perfect time for her to stop and have a realisation about herself and the way she perceives the world. Done right it could have let her character grow and been the start of something interesting, but that would have required writers who weren't wine moms getting drunk on their own victimhood.

[@seg162]

It was on the chart... in the third quadrant.

[@MilanousMedia]

You know its bad when Drinker can't relate to someone who's main character traits are complaining and drinking

[@samblack5313]

😂😂

[@demifull4339]

Hate you 😂

[@Ash-of1yl]

Dangg

[@SwissMiss138]

Brilliant comment 🤣

[@aadi8568]

😂amazing

[@chayimcharles7353]

I remember seeing my dad on Disney plus and he saw she hulk; I obviously warned him of what he was getting into. he watched it anyways, needless to say he stopped after one episode, and asked me what was going on in the writer's head with a dead serious face, i honestly couldn't have given him an answer. that's how bad it was. it literally made my dad (who loves superhero tv shows) go, wtf.

[@moonraven6145]

Her stupid rant about being able to "control her anger far better than you" should've been a wake up call for her more than anything, due to her getting angry while Banner/Hulk just calmly let her say that, but that would require a show that had an actual point or something.

[@AnthonyA1995]

Don't even need that. The wake up call should be her realizing she just said that... to the Hulk. Not Bruce Banner, in human form... The Hulk. Legendary even among the Avengers for his endless power stemming from his endless rage, that he has through enormous personal effort, introspection, and coming to terms with who and what he is, has overcome.

[@QueekHeadtaker]

@@AnthonyA1995 nahhhhh, push product, you eat.

[@deanooooooo6496]

@@AnthonyA1995 Yes his legendary ability to not control his anger, she was right though, women do need to control their anger in certain situations or the consequences are dire. What was wrong about what she said?

[@DeepfriedBeans4492]

@@deanooooooo6496what? After like the avengers when do we see the hulk go out of control and loose his temper? Shehulk didn’t say “I need to control my anger in certain situations or the consequences are dire” (which applies to banner too mind you), she said “I need to control my anger INFINITELY MORE TIMES than YOU”. “You” obviously being bruce banner, you know, the guy who was enslaved as a gladiator stuck in the body of a mindless rage beast for multiple years (or at least months), failed to stop half of life from getting destroyed, the guy that lost his semi love interest to save those half of the population. Banner has so much reason to be angry, but no ig getting catcalled and spoken to condescendingly is “infinitely times worse” than that. Don’t get me wrong, those are real issues, but media like captain marvel and this portray sexism in such a comicly unrealistic way that doesn’t just stop at calling out sexists, but makes all men as a whole look like incompetent, insecure, sexist apes, which is just going back to when movies only showed men as strong characters but flipped. It’s this toxic mindset of thinking the only way to make something look good is to make everything around it absolutely trash in comparison. I welcome strong, female protagonists that discuss issues women face, but they should still be characters with nuance and flaws with interesting stories in their own right beyond “men bad women strong”.

[@henrycavillsrealmustache3553]

@@DeepfriedBeans4492 he was stuck as hulk for 2 years and yea dumb rant

[@michaelcrawford3663]

This kinda show was made for people like my Uber feminist ex. She loved the show so much it made me take a step back and look at our relationship and I realized how toxic of a person she was. She hulk might not have saved my relationship but it probably saved my life which is the only compliment that I’ll ever give it.

[@irvingceron1016]

Way to dodge that bullet, God bless

[@marlonb.4017]

I love that this show was so awful that it made anyone reconsider a relationship with someone who actually liked this shit 💀

[@01swainco]

It's a silly tv show with a strong female. Why that upsets some male egos, I don't understand. I saw nothing anti-male, and why women can't have strong fictional characters to enjoy and possibly inspire them, I can't understand. It's just a tv show, among hundreds of shows with strong male characters.

[@sinuslebastian6366]

@@01swainco men absolutely love well written strong female characters. See the love for Kim Wexler from Better Call Saul and Jessica Pearson from Suits. A poorly written character with 0 depth doesn't get a free pass just because it is a female character.

[@dirbyh]

lol this resonates with me so much. wasted 5 years with a very similar kind of girl, 3 months on my own and i have never felt more complete as a man.

[@coreyleader6206]

when she claimed being cat called and having things explained to her as challenging it showed right away the limited life experience of the writers.

[@samblack5313]

None of these people have ever had to wonder where their next meal was coming from, or where they were going to sleep that night.

[@sunphoenix1231]

Which is a point of negativity for the character, she's arrogant. Which is common like you know Tony Stark or Thor.

[@luskira]

@@sunphoenix1231 But do the show writers treat arrogance as a negative trait, or do they claim it's her just being "confident"? There is a difference

[@sunphoenix1231]

@@luskira her arrogance got her in trouble a few times. Thinking she could be herself with people, or handle all of the things that come with being a superhero and lawyer.

[@luskira]

@@sunphoenix1231 Oh then alright. I'm not gonna trash a show I didn't even watch. Thanks for letting me know

[@edge6627]

Better Call Saul is a better story about a lawyer and he doesn't even have superpowers

[@bobbamford5207]

10x better!

[@NJGuy1973]

Any episode from the first three seasons of LA Law was better.

[@Highly-grounded]

Linkin lawyer beats this

[@SophiaPerpetua]

Comparing Better Call Saul and She-Hulk the tv show is like comparing Shakespeare and Cardi B lyrics. Better Call Saul is a masterpiece. She-Hulk is absolute garbage.

[@CheesyChimp69]

Jimmy McGill is the anti-hero we all need. But the writers of this flaming pant-load would never touch such a character because: 1. Nuance is alien to them, and 2. He's a straight white man.

[@carlchapman4053]

The scene when she is pushed off the cliff by ruffalo is a perfect example of this entire series. Even during the shock of being pushed her first reaction is NOT to react to a life threatening situation but to 'flip the bird' and then hold it. She was utterly new to being a Hulk and she had no idea if she could survive that fall but hey she is the protagonist of colour (green) so there are no bad consequences, so why not have her insult the one person trying to help her while she falls back first onto sharp rocks below, so stunning, so brave.

[@hiamaraldvaan7221]

Yea crap like this is annoying

[@budgetbrick5124]

Honestly it seem like the writers wanted to not do the whole training montage and make her instantly at control her hulk form. She has no struggle at all in the show in fact being the hulk made her struggle less

[@PalindromeDesign]

SNARK. I hate snark in movies - and I primarily blame Bruce Willis for making it go nuclear. Nothing ever really matters anymore. Death most importantly, as cited in your example. Every character has to have their requisite "Yippe Kay Yay motherfucker!" statements in the face of danger5 - and then nothing ever happens to them of note.

[@MrDman21]

When I saw the 6'7" model standing next to Tatiana Maslany, all I could think of was that line from those Adam Sandler movies "That's a huge bitch!" 😆

[@Ellzyboy]

@@MrDman21 Adam Sandler also not funny

[@Pete_Finch]

I'm a lawyer and the thing I find most unbelievable about this show is that there's an attorney that actually likes her job.

[@quij7ote222]

Amen, brother.

[@andrewmack2161]

To be fair, she doesn't understand the law or what to do as a lawyer. When she's 50 (and single) and finally gets a real grasp upon the job then she'll despise it like most other do.

[@tuvoca825]

But she is a self-serving psychopath, so it actually makes sense tjat she would enjoy not thinking about the consequences. In the final episode she wakes up from a coma, and was dreaming the whole thing.

[@zerogrey3798]

My daughter loved her job as a lawyer, but she refuses to actually practice because of all the politics involved. When she was overseas practicing it was all she wanted to do, once she came back to the U.S. she refuses to even try. Although she didn't do criminal law.

[@bestpiss]

@@andrewmack2161 she’s not gonna be 50. She’s a fictional character big dawg

[@fameasser123]

She could've learned so much more if she actually listened to others. Plus I love how her character arc was learning nothing and everyone was wrong but her. Truly a breathtaking vision for the series. Disney is doing a good job at shoving their liberal-feminist agendas down our throats with this show.

[@jacobdennison968]

Someone once said “if you think everyone else is the problem, then you’re just a delusional asshole” Feel like that sums the show up adequately

[@brittneystreeter493]

I loved the fact that she kept demanding people take responsibility for their actions and be held accountable while not taking responsibility for any of her actions and not being held accountable for her appalling behavior. I don’t think I’ve ever been more disgusted by a tv show in my life.

[@bugwar5545]

Yep. Stunning and brave.

[@brontosa5351]

Shit I clicked wrong...by the comment section I thought this was rings of power video...my bad.

[@DarkLightProjector]

The arc represents the mindset of the bitter nihilistic, hedonistic, individual locked into modernity. While CD is correct that the writers put their hangups on screen for all to see, these writers also communicated clearly with a certain audience that's far bigger than anyone would like to admit. Marvel targeted this audience with chilling accuracy for She-Hulk, but Hollywood in general targets this audience pretty well on a regular basis.

[@christhemathews]

Bruce was turned into a monster by the military, who then hunted him across the entire world, forcing him to live in the worst conditions imaginable. And she says SHE has infinitely more emotional control than he does.

[@Negative921]

Being forced to gave up on his love, being chased by the army for few years, being seen as a monster for long time, hurting people that he cared about vs being called sweetheart. I'm so proud of Jenn, she is SO strong

[@bruhmoments19]

😭

[@sealskin5221]

Oh, and the love of his life, a woman who knew who he was and loves him anyway, DIES! Yeah "I've suffered infinitely more than you, Bruce!" Girl, go to bed.

[@solessmusic285]

Don’t forget the psychological/physical abuse he witnessed and endured as a child

[@randomguy_069]

It was more than that. He faced domestic abuse when he was little and created Hulk Personality as a measure to capture his extreme emotions. Then as he faced hellish situations his mind automatically created several personalities, ranking from Heroic to Evil ones. That's the guy Bruce Banner is, a person with long mental illness who is forced to play different roles by the fate, one time he is a villain who slaughter people, another time an avenger, another time an intergalactic leader, and another time the destroyer of worlds. He wants to give away his personalities but at the same time wants to be them because they protect them from his bottled-up emotions.

[@pewpewlazers5702]

It would’ve made much more sense for her to have the same struggle as the hulk…with her learning to control her emotions and how it effects her job and how she is seen in the real world trying to date etc... Instead they made her completely incompetent and irresponsible, then made the men around her seem even more incompetent…and then tried to play it off as comedy, such horrible writing.

[@legokid1902]

The thing that upsets me the most in this collage of green and female angst is that the comic She-Hulk is a fantastic character. Jen is an insecure female lawyer who lack confidence through her job and in her appearance, but she chooses to be the She-hulk because she becomes a bombshell, who's strong, pretty and allows her to have the confidence she's always wanted, and yes she fights crime as a superhero but she prefers to do real good in the courtroom, because not every problem is solved with violence, someone has to represent the heroes who live through the phrase "No good deed goes unpunished." Or the Supervillains who never had a chance to be the good guy. That and the legal stuff in the comics is so much better. Point being, where Bruce struggled with the Hulk as a manifestation of his anger that he couldn't control, Jennifer accepts the She-Hulk to hide her insecurities as Jennifer. It's a sort of mirror you can hold up to the Hulk/Bruce as a little inversion on his character.

[@legokid1902]

@Emotional Damage Damn that looks really good actually

[@Nytellem]

I’m sure the writers could care less about any of this and that’s the sad part.

[@prime1773]

Meanwhile, the tv show has She-Hulk twerking....

[@RockNRolla1212]

Meanwhile the show's writing room: you know what would be sooooooooooo funny!? **Insert contrived bit here**

[@specialk9424]

But we can't have that, because girl power, and down with the patriarchy, and all that shit. And after we're done putting all those toxic white men in their place, we ride Daredevil's billy club, and he struts home, like a boss. Walk of shame, hell, all my dude needed was "Stayin' Alive" playing while he walked home.

[@chucksenhowzen9740]

When Guyladriel tells Daredevil “you have not seen what I’ve seen” & Daredevil’s like “no sh!t b!tch” I was brought to tears of joy

[@uJemai]

Goddamit I laughed! Here's your like sir, go away now!

[@orppranator5230]

Guy-Lad-driel. lol

[@riomadoff8722]

So, you’re telling me, when Bruce first became Hulk, he had to run away from everything he loved and cared and spent years hiding but when Jen becomes She Hulk, everyone loves her, seems kind of unfair.

[@JohnNash-lt1ny]

Honestly a pretty accurate represent of real life 😂

[@therealistintheboot8822]

Seeing Charlie Cox's Daredevil being forced to do the walk of shame almost brought tears to my eyes. I remember years ago how everyone wanted Disney/MCU to take over all the Netflix shows thinking they could do better but so far every Marvel Netflix show was a masterpiece compared to any Disney+ show.

[@xcyted4now]

since they did that to daredevil imagine how they're going to neuter the punisher. it's sad.

[@Antonio-ys5zd]

@@xcyted4now has a punisher show been announced?

[@jk802]

The whole "Walk of Shame" was supposed to be some type of funny joke, but it doesn't land with any male character. Women walk home carrying their shoes because Heels are uncomfortable to walk in a long way like that. Men wouldn't be doing that. Daredevil who stays in the shadows really wouldn't have just walked home in costume at all. Like most jokes it doesn't work because its out of character and breaks the lore.

[@xcyted4now]

@@Antonio-ys5zd I maybe mistaken but I think they said there will be a new punisher show on d+ so don't take my word for it.

[@John-Doe-Yo]

Even iron fist was better than most of these Disney marvel shows. Thought I did enjoy Loki and Wandavision.

[@Aristowi]

Man, Netflix's Daredevil was the show that got me into superhero TV series, it was real, violent, dramatic and interesting, it's heartbreaking what they have done to the character.

[@g3nj1]

Only a blind man would date she hulk. Nice one, writers. Super empowering for women.

[@nelisezpasce]

So good, not just for superhero TV, but crime/drama television in general. We got 3 seasons that we never even deserved. A great example of "don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened".

[@daniel-zh9nj6yn6y]

Have you watched 90s/early 2000s superhero cartoons ? There were a lot of great ones. And DC has some amazing animated movies.

[@gerulais]

Remember that that was a Netflix production, and not Disney. They just bought it from Netflix.

[@Durzo1259]

​@@gerulais Exactly. Marvel was an amazing franchise up until 2016 or so. Then Disney hijacked it as a vehicle for *The Message* and only hired writers who would preach *The Message* who just so happened to coincidentally have zero talent for writing. A cynical man might think that social justice preachers are profoundly stupid or something.

[@blinkblinking]

The best part is, if you try to say anything bad against this show, some white girl named Emily on tik tok comes after you like: “you just hate women” “it’s so sexist” “you can’t stand female empowerment”

[@BWMagus]

Fortunately, the only thing I know about Tik Tok is girls dance on it, sometimes nude. I am relatively isolated from Twitter but utterly disconnected from Chinese datamining apps, thank god.

[@MrTunes333]

The best response is, yes I do. At least it shuts them up.

[@SwissMiss138]

No, “Emily”, some of us just prefer an actual good story.

[@atomik9322]

If you dislike she-hulk your an "incell"

[@danbrown3325]

@@atomik9322 that's all I see. Angry man-child, incel, etc. The comments from men I see are often negative, yet civil. Not exactly the same case for the people criticizing those men

[@AlbinoMutant]

"I am infinitely better at controlling my anger than you!" she shouted angrily.

[@SuperFitzieZX]

I never thought I would find someone worse and more dislikable than Brie Larson's Captain Marvel in the MCU. She-Hulk ended up proving me wrong. Thanks, I guess...

[@AndrewThoesen]

The bar has been lowered to the basement at this point.

[@cupidsfavouritecherub9327]

Ngl she hulk is way better than capt marvel. At least she faces some sort of conflict as opposed to being literally the most powerful person on her planet yet bullshitting about problems she could solve in five minutes

[@micahclawrence]

Nah man. At least the actress is likeable with She Hulk.

[@Fadaar]

nah the actress isn't near as unlikeable as the cheese thief

[@shafkatahmed5420]

@@Fadaar Why did u call Brie a cheese thief?I really wanna know.I don't like Brie btw

[@FracturedDMR]

You know we've devolved in story advancements when people say "maybe Thanos was right" unironically.

[@deadlight88]

Was Thanos the hero all along?

[@greypilgrim228]

@@deadlight88 Thanos was the hero we needed, but didn't deserve.

[@Mister-Six]

Maybe Thanos and Ras Al'Ghul were right.

[@marychocolatefairy]

Indeed, and over in RoP people are outright rooting for the bad guys - Sauron, Adar, and the Orcs - because most of the so-called heroes are so unlikable.

[@Spurdospaerde692]

Adults who unironically refer to any capeshit products need to be euthanized.

[@bnsz8704]

They had a 6’7” model but in the show she still complains about not being able to find clothes and that she’s inhumanly big. But they have a real life person the same size as she hulk.

[@GingerZombie29]

I mean, Bruce wears clothes now. Where does HE get them?

[@nerfherder48]

Pretty messed up actually. If I was that model I'd be like damn I'm tall but I'm not some inhuman freakshow wtf

[@hellodumplings8564]

Don't like the show at all but y'all do know clothe sizes are more than just height, right?

[@niddy3336]

“She’s forced to reveal her powers when this ridiculous arsehole bursts into her courtroom for absolutely no reason” properly made me laugh

[@faboo2001]

Man, that monologue with "So I'm an expert at controlling my anger because I do it infinitely more than you!" will forever be terrible

[@Mpel3]

Infinitely terrible.

[@extermin8or3]

Also based on last week's episode and a few other scenes didn't age all too well. I'd be giving the writers too much credit if I said maybe the hypocrisy was intentional?

[@ramigilneas9274]

It’s getting worse every time a woman agrees that getting catcalled and mansplained makes you an expert at controlling anger.

[@bestpiss]

That whole shpeel had to have been ironic, right? They had to have written that with the intent to characterize Jennifer as someone that is wrong, self-centered, and impatient, right? Maybe I’m giving the writers too much credit

[@pyrrhicvictory6707]

@@bestpiss I actually thought so too! I had assumed she was starting out as selfish, narcissistic and condescending and the show would be about her learning about humility and growing as a person. Boy was I wrong.

[@akshy471]

This series single-handedly cured my insomnia

[@spadesofpaintstudios1719]

That’s something 😂

[@RocksOff72]

What's worse, Kenobi or She-Hulk? I got through 1.5 eps of Kenobi.

[@ChristianD5661]

@@RocksOff72 shehulk is definitely a lot worse, Kenobi has some good moments beyond the first two episodes but she hulk was just a load of shit

[@calripplebear1293]

awesome comment 🤣🤣🤣

[@elijahpelito4722]

Hope it cures my dementia

[@IsaacDavidLopez]

That "go away now" sounded a little more real than ever. Our man really got tired after watching She-Hulk.

[@tacticalmattfoley]

Man, it really had a sound of exasperation.

[@randomdude189]

Dude the leaked synopsis of the she hulk finale is bad... like she breaks the fourth wall and yells at the writers and changes the finale. It’s gonna be a new level of bad.

[@Durzo1259]

@@randomdude189 That sounds about right, and no doubt the writers think that was a profoundly clever use of storytelling.

[@yohannbiimu]

Yes, there was an extra tinge of pain in it.

[@halhansen778]

You. Are. Funny! I am subscribing immediately. I was dry heaving, because I heard 2 male reviewers who LIKE it (or they were life-like representations of men) and I had to look further on the worldwide waste of time because I needed to emotionally cleanse myself. Thank you.

[@randomrey002]

That Skit was worth watching more than an entire frame of She-Hulk!

[@dokuganryu1565]

Funny how this show could be described with 3 letters from the word "skit" and the other one replaced.

[@norntneithernt3919]

Do you have any idea how little it narrows it down?

[@markcobuzzi826]

@@dokuganryu1565 “Tshi”? That Chinese word for “disappointed in the cooking of the duck meat”?

[@BerylLx]

She-Hulk brought us 1 good thing; all the hilarious reactions from KZbinrs with a sense of good writing We appreciate thy self-sacrifice

[@holyvector]

2 good things matt murdock

[@ragnadrabinowitz7629]

I laugh at you

[@ChrisSmith-tu9bu]

Agreed...this show is uniquely roastable tho...not sure Ill ever see a show this utterly awful with this big a budget and built in audience ever green lit again BUT AGAIN Disney plus MCU is nosediving hard so at this rate some 12 year old is probably getting a show made...but then again I think an average 12 year old could write a better show

[@greenarrow219]

I watch the reaper, his reviews are great

[@Facade953]

Verily!

[@stevend2666]

My favorite part about them writing the character is how she is supposed to be this independent strong woman, but every time she meets a man she sleeps with him the same night or a few days into them knowing each other and then is miserable and self loathing when she doesn't have a man in her life. That to me feels like a huge backfire. My girlfriend said it best "That is not a strong female character, that's a $lut" also right before the last episode ended before she went to the gala was the most awkward and forced 4th wall break I have ever seen in a movie or tv show. It was very cringe and so unnecessary

[@quij7ote222]

I'm a woman who agrees with your girlfriend. And the most horrifying thing about this show is coming to understand that there is a generation of girls who think this obsession with men and whether they've messaged you recently (and the empty sex) is somehow the behavior of "independent," "intelligent," or "strong" women.

[@clogs4956]

Perhaps the writers have reached the point where they get maudlin drunk and their conscience manages to get a word in edgeways: I really messed up my life. Then they sober up and deliberately set out to tempt younger women with the same bad choices.

[@jjjakumbbs1043]

​@@clogs4956 misery does love company

[@jjjakumbbs1043]

It's really gross but that is an accurate representation of modern, 304, city girl, western culture. I heard she was also quite the loose woman in the comics but I don't think she whined there the way she does in the show. Men won't stay long term with a woman who's been passed around the block.

[@praetorian1603]

I've had 1 night stands and no one slut shamed me. Oh yeah, I'm a man, so i don't face the same BS women have to deal with. I love that she waits 3 dates before sleeping with Josh; 3 dates, as a sexually active, non prudish human, is about right to decide if you want to be intimate with someone. Get a life people, it's 2022, and women want to fuck as much as men.

[@thelastofusrodah932]

feminists: 'all bodies are beautiful even if they are fat/weird/etc' also feminists: *makes the idealized female hulk body look like a traditional supermodel*

[@liverpooljft9623]

😂 the "why do guys think its ok to flirt with me at a bar... also why am I still single" killed me off. Some very confused and angry women behind this show.

[@0xbenedikt]

People who consider tasteful flirting at a bar inacceptable deserve to stay single

[@nickytommymancinelli8066]

Yes, women don’t make sense… LOGICALLY… (*the bible literally CONDEMNS THEIR IRRATIONAL-INSANITY for it

[@Love-Sensibility]

Flirting at a bar is common tho

[@Mereologist]

@@Love-Sensibility Not only is flirting at a bar common, but in at least one scene she is in the bar using an app to try and get dates, and when a guy shows up asking her for a date she is completely disgusted. She talks about WANTED men to ask her out, but hates literally everyone who does other than the total soy feminist.

[@thewolfofwallstreet627]

This is why I never flirt with girls at a bar. XD What most guys don't understand is you need to either be very attractive to hit on girls at a bar, or you need to at least have mad rizz. Otherwise, any girl you try to buy drinks for or talk to will give you an attitude like She Hulk would do from this series and be like "why do guys think it's okay to flirt with me at a bar?" I guarantee you if Captain America or Daredevil hit on her at that same bar, she'd be like "Oh yes please!" XD Moral of the story. If you want to hit on a girl, you need to be attractive and/or have mad rizz.

[@foehammer5047]

I like how the lead writer looks EXACTLY how you would expect her to.

[@daywalker3735]

I expected white but yea

[@F4c2a]

Stereotypes work for a reason, even though we like to think they're so "bad."

[@Saintphish]

She also wrote Pickle Rick just perfection

[@daywalker3735]

@@Saintphish yea I read that about her and that blew my mind!

[@ratamahatta5306]

Yeah, middle age, fat and pretentious

[@GhostBlade_888]

I love the part where She-hulk looked Daredevil in the *eyes* and chided him “ I’m a strong independent woman” truly original and inspiring.

[@conserztasfia0078]

"looked daredevil in the *eyes* "

[@dustincintron1682]

@@conserztasfia0078 does he not have eyes

[@Squidbush8563]

@@dustincintron1682 He's blind.

[@mister420blazeit2]

wait till daredevil sees this, he's gonna be fuming....oh wait.

[@echostik]

@@conserztasfia0078 💀

[@andrewdow1609]

How exactly did The Hulk's skin get broken so he was bleeding? He's taken direct hits from 60mm auto-cannons and missles. I don't understand how being in a minor car accident can do that.

[@Pero-zl4jp]

I’ve done a law internships and funny enough majority of lawyers I’ve met are very either reserved, soft spoken, compassionate people or completely narcissistic assholes who talk about how great of a person they are. In my experience I’ve never met anything other than these two categories.

[@sstrykert]

The soft spoken ones wind up as stenographers😕

[@IIIVI]

They're all slimy shysters anyways

[@MrMojoman1976]

I did some rounds (as a runner) at law offices and you are correct. Something else you could bet on was the more asshole the attorney, the more difficult the administrative assistant.

[@SIDCIAVIC]

She's just like the writers. Her life consists of watching shows like this, cats, and boxed wine.

[@ryanbarker5217]

she's like many women i know who have hit the wall and flee from any accountability.

[@dannyhernandez265]

“Cats” Lol. Yeah I hate cats.

[@dannyhernandez265]

Don’t forget soy lattes too.

[@LordPoshnameVonPlumbingparts]

Ah yes, the low IQ wine mom's.

[@muppetb.lansing8374]

Spot on!

[@boofex1]

You nailed it about the writers projecting their own horse shit. Cheers

[@punawelewele]

You put way more thought into this review than they did in the writing room.

[@doc_sav]

I've met people like Jen... The only things in their lives are their jobs (even though they don't seem to get much done or do it well), getting drunk all the rest of the time, and the next meaningless hookup that they will inevitably project their loneliness and desperation onto if given a chance. You know the person; shows up hung over every day, sobs at their desk about monthly when they find out their latest three night stand is not getting divorced to be with them, has a baffling condescending attitude about how awesome and exciting their lifestyle is compared to yours... You get the picture. Thing is, most people don't see this as something to aspire to. We pity them. It is weird that the people who made She-Hulk see it as a way that a strong, interesting person would be.

[@anonops1980]

Superheroes were supposed to be inspirations, people we looked up to. Now they’re fantastic examples to be avoided.

[@dons1932]

I met one the other day. Tall, slender, gorgeous face. Trying to get a personality out of her through conversation was pointless. "Hey I've heard so much about you, tell me about yourself." "Well I'm a legal assistant, and yeah that's pretty much it. I don't go out much, I'm boring, I just work." Also a HUGE, I'd say alcoholic, drinker.

[@stevenscott2136]

That's feminism in a nutshell. Women trying desperately to live the lives they THINK men live, because some bitter old women long ago decided that was how the Marxist "class struggle" applied to them.

[@rynsummer1711]

@@dons1932 She sounds just like my mom when she tried to comfort herself with the lack of entertainment in her life. It's sad. You know you could've tried asking what she did on weekend, right? Or any hobby..suggesting to make one? Then again, you and her are stranger, I'm just saying that she doesn't sound that bad, at least from what you've told.

[@dycedargselderbrother5353]

I remember one of these leaving my job, can't remember if she found a new job or was fired. Partied every night and showed into work barely awake/sober enough to pass. On her way out she said something to me like, "You better not be a stranger!" with what would be a lot of charm if she were somebody else. All I thought was I sure hoped she didn't make good on that promise keeping in touch. To my relief, I never heard from her again. The one you're glad that got away.

[@wayne3188]

It's actually pretty astonishing that marvel took their OWN great character and turned her into that

[@charlesincharge1245]

Great is an overstatement. They’re grasping at straws and pandering to morons at this point. If she hulk was great in either quality, quantity or even general demand this wouldn’t have been the first adaptation.

[@jmie5]

@@charlesincharge1245 Lmao, what? I can't tell if you're ESL or just blaming the comic character for this shitty show.

[@bill392]

Two words: Captain Marvel

[@ColonelMuppet]

Wrong target. It’s Disney that have done the damage….they’ve poured excrement into the franchise…everything Disney does today turns to sh it in their fingers. The share price is under pressure and they should be firing the board - Chapek - and cutting the funds into woke writers and casts that make no money.

[@mikehawke2374]

Marvel has not been Marvel for many years. With them generating so much garbage, it's no wonder their offices are full of mouse-shit.

[@chaoseater69]

The best part of the finale was how, after an entire season of railing against how society dehumanizes/sexualizes women on practically all levels, Jen robs Matt of agency by literally wishing him back into the plot...because he was a good lay.

[@TechandDoc]

My wife pointed that out before I could. Terrible.

[@sandman4224]

Alpha fux, beta bucks. The true female prerogative.

[@brittneybrittneyxo]

she definitely genuinely likes Matt. to say she only wanted him back into the show because of sex is ridiculous

[@JaySteetsArt]

It's okay if women do it.

[@neversafefromwaluigi8853]

@@JaySteetsArt amen fellow WokerTwitterBot#2789. Everyone knows that something can't be bad, if a women does it. Praise the message! Glory to wokeness!

[@twiggypie2314]

One of the most telling lines was she literally came out and said she wanted everything without having to put in any effort at all.

[@LucianDevine]

8:00 This is one of the reasons why I like Drinker. He, like the rest of us, doesn't criticize or blame the actors and actresses when they are clearly doing their best with the absolute garbage the writers are giving them.

[@damocles2817]

Lol if you get tricked by this bot you’re a donut

[@meatbleed]

I could have the wrong guy but I think he blamed the girl in thor for not getting ripped for the role. Rather than the casting dept

[@ninjaturtlefan2003]

@@meatbleed Tbf that’s one of the few things in the actors control. They don’t choose the writers but they can definitely choose their work out routine. Chris Pratt got JACKED for Star Lord and he was pretty fat so why can’t any actress do exactly what all the actors do?

[@joshuaprietophoto]

@@ninjaturtlefan2003 chris pratt was boring when he was overweight, and he's still boring when he's fit, though

[@LucianDevine]

@@ninjaturtlefan2003 Because in this day and age they'll claim that we're body shaming them or something like that.

[@scottmatthew8501]

I would say my favorite line from the show is in the penultimate episode when she hulk breaks the fourth wall and asks if she's getting fridged, which is a reference to how a lot of shows and movies will have female characters in them only to serve the plot of the male protagonist, sometimes killing them off not because it makes sense to their arc but so the M.P. can have a new story. What is funny about this is that she hulk literally does the same thing but with the men in the show, none are written with any depth or any characterization really but only exist to serve the narrative. So the writers know about these kinda things and know its bad writing and still have it in their story

[@ShadowtheRenamon]

It's only bad writing if it happens to women.

[@ericandkylaflowers1727]

nailed it

[@Kaje_]

Which begs the question: Why do they still do it then? Some CEO or board of directors forcing them to still do this or what?

[@clogs4956]

It's kinda Zen to witness the self-unaware unaware they're proving it.

[@rrmackay]

Probably joking around the witches cauldron: "We will show the men of the world!"

[@cjdr.4145]

I appreciate it every time Drinker says: "don't know" because besides "don't care" that's exactly what every modern-day Hollywood writer says when asked any plot hole question.

[@OreoSmithOfficial]

It's ironic that she gets really steamed up while she screams "I CAN CONTROL MY ANGER FAR BETTER THAN YOU"

[@zahrans]

She-Hulk - This Is Rock Bottom Velma: "Allow me to introduce myself!" 😁

[@Animestar21]

Ah yes, the Powerpuff Girls 2016 to She-Hulk’s Teen Titans Go

[@xminusone1]

@@Animestar21 at least the original powerpuff girls was funny and surprisingly intelligent writing. It was both my daughters favourite cartoon. I didn't know they made a new movie in 2015. Or were you talking about ghostbuster?"

[@Animestar21]

@@xminusone1 I wasn’t talking about the original Powerpuff Girls, I was talking about the rebooted series made in 2016 The series that got rid of Miss Bellum while at the same time showed Blossom and Bubbles Twerking and had an adult lady kiss Buttercup (a Gradeschooler) on the mouth for several seconds

[@xminusone1]

@@Animestar21 Oh I didn't know they did a reboot. The original one was both my daughters favourite cartoon. It was surprisingly good.

[@deandrenicholas2545]

Shit, She-Hulk is a fucking masterpiece when you put it up against the visual diarrhea that is Velma.

[@thebatman4279]

Strange timeline where you end up actively rooting for the villain in nearly every single modern TV show.

[@thisistheplan414]

and so far theres not really a main villain either

[@runek100]

Like sauron and orcs in rings of power. I actually want evil to win. In lotr I was scared of them.

[@bighand1530]

I was really rooting against Karli in Falcon and the Winter Soldier when going against John Walker.

[@Lonovavir]

# Thanos did nothing wrong

[@Wilphart]

I thought it was only me. I dunno - Titania and Leapfrog were not worthy of rooting for them, except that they were vexing Jen. But Abomination, without any effort, is actually more interesting than Jen Walters, and arguably funnier, too. I totally root for him. I hated that they turned Wong into a fool, but the drunk girl who was clinging to him was so ridiculous that I did find it mildly amusing, or at least it was a light-hearted escape from the Karen-ness of the rest of the show.

[@paythefidler3252]

When She-Hulk said, "FLY YOU FOOLS!" then proceeded to fight a Balrog of Morgoth from the lowest dungeon to the highest peak and then she threw down her enemy and smote his ruin on the mountain side. I stood, applauded, and cried at her stunning bravery.

[@PNWAffliction]

very brave, and very stunning!!!!!

[@bathtub_marmot]

And then Galadriel says "It's Morbin time!" and torches King's Landing on her dragon.

[@nickfry7839]

its truly a tv show of all time! she hulk is definitley one of marvels characters!

[@jonathancooper4914]

Hahahahahahaha!

[@jonathancooper4914]

I can’t decide between that scene or the one when She-Hulk and Galadriel ride a sand worm all the way from The Shire to Mordor.

[@SpartanHighKing14]

The last 2 minutes of this video is probably the most accurate description of these woke Disney writers that I've ever heard. Great work Drinker!

[@TheAstrojoe62]

My dad left for the Korean War as a naive, kid from a safe small town. Then he saw real shit happen and people die, real soul crushing poverty and desperation. Then he came back to his clean small town and realized he could no longer relate to the people he grew up with who never left. He suddenly saw how shallow it all was. We’ve had it so easy for so long we don’t have a clue what it means to really struggle. Until we’ve collectively been put through the wringer I just don’t see much changing.

[@JOSEPH-vs2gc]

Looming economic collapse and ww3 coming, the same idiots who voted for Biden and buy into Wokism have brought this upon us... so we will all be collectively put through the wringer after all.

[@Dontknowlol11]

Gosh I feel sorry to him and hope he any better from it

[@redpillnibbler4423]

There’s truth in that. If people hadn’t been snivelling spoilt cowards at the start of 2020 and obsequiously compliant to the fascist lies of authority we wouldn’t be in the shit right now.

[@stevenschnepp576]

@@Dontknowlol11 On the one hand, yeah. On the other hand, look at what happens to people who've never encountered stark reality.

[@nickthepick8043]

Honestly, there's at least one silver lining from this. The fact that you're carrying your Dad's story today shows that you have a lot of love and respect for him, and that he imparted good beliefs onto you to recognize the difference between right and wrong through people who have perspective or don't.

[@SomeeGuyy]

Someone needs to capitalize on selling She-Hulk T-shirts that simply say, "I survived watching She-Hulk."

[@Flaschenteufel]

would sell as good as shirts with "i beat toddlers with tiny kittens" on it i guess. nothing anybody wants to admit ^^

[@paulwilson6357]

Ugh. I'll take three of the toddler shirts please.

[@SomeeGuyy]

@@Flaschenteufel Yes it would be hard to admit, but it would also show that you are a person that by all accounts can endure almost anything. It is a trade off for sure. You either face utter humiliation or receive honor for what you have gone through.

[@Flaschenteufel]

@@SomeeGuyy ^^ forged in the shit fires of She-Hulk!

[@killroy2014]

🤣👍

[@drowningpooralice5505]

It was nice that the writers literally appear in this episode, since their presence saturated the entire season. What they did to she-hulk is unfortunate, what they did to daredevil is unforgivable.

[@bilalshaaban4743]

she hulk fuckig sucked yes, but they didnt ruin daredevil they just made him more comedic without the darkness( in the comics he jokes almost as much as spidey while still being a dark hero at the same time so this isnt comic accurate btw) because this is a "comedy show" so in dd born again he probably will be like netflix ( i hope)

[@violetfem1808]

@@bilalshaaban4743 I don't like much comedy in the Superheroes. I prefer them being more serious. I thought it was too much in Ragnarok. It's fine for Deadpool but I don't like them becoming overly casual while studios milk them with so many shows & movies. To me they become less special and more common which to me is a negative thing. It's a subjective thing I'm sure like fast vs slow shambling zombies

[@saltedllama2759]

@@violetfem1808 Serious superheroes translates to boring, stale, enormous plot holes. See: the entire DC universe thus far. The best work they did was when they added a splash of humor. While Ragnarok was a bit over-the-top, it was serious when it had to be. Thor was always a fish-out-of-water in the comics anyway, which led to plenty of humorous moments.

[@alexmendez713]

dear devil basically made him spider man without the sony

[@accountforcommenting]

@@violetfem1808 it is not someone like,each superhero is different do you hate spiderman

[@hawkofsteel5169]

Your reviews are always spot on and very funny. They are so well written unlike most of these shows.

[@Scud5742]

“Rich liberal women problems” soooo accurate.

[@qwertyrobbo101]

I prefer the term 'Empty Egg Carton Problems'!

[@Willismcnillis]

I love Tim Roth and his ambivalence towards all the capsehit. I remember an interview with him, possibly before he ended up in it, when he was asked about whether he watches the MCU, and he said something like “They’re a good way to waste a long plane journey.”

[@dons1932]

Especially now that they put you to sleep. No better sedative exists.

[@IamRa-18]

“Rich, liberal woman problems” So accurate lol

[@tordb]

You sound like an NPC regurgitating the same tired tropes

[@alalvarez7301]

​@@tordb Oh stop pretending this isn't an industry wide problem. If you wanna shit on someone, go for the corps who essentially kneecapped modern storytelling.

[@mocahmcgrady7530]

@@alalvarez7301 that’s a good point 😂😂

[@nmonye01]

There are poor people in the MCU? Tony Stark is literally a billionaire.

[@ryantogo8359]

@@nmonye01 strange attempt at subversion by a strange little dude. Go away now

[@TopHatTITAN]

Honestly, if you want to see a Hulk TV show, just watch the 1978 series will Bill Bixby and Lou Ferrigno. So much more heart, so much more real, and the effects hold up even today.

[@doubtingthomas6752]

Drinker is my only link to modern culture and media. Thank you for taking these slings and arrows for us all.

[@MrBadassitude]

U a sheep got it

[@MrPHILLCROW]

It's easy to ignore the damage dealt to Cox's Daredevil when you simply refused to watch the show

[@theblackflame4002]

as soon as Disney got their hands on the Netflix shows I warned my wife that if they reboot them, you're watching them without me. Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Punisher, Luke Cage were all great as was the Defenders. Iron fist? Well, Disney can't make that one any worse.

[@flaviomonteiro1414]

@@theblackflame4002 You are underestimating Disney's capacity of creating terrible characters and terrible shows...

[@PNWAffliction]

@@theblackflame4002 iron fist wasn't that bad, it took a season to really find it's footing. season 2 was solid end to end. was I think the only netflix marvel series that didn't have an episode and a half of dead air.

[@JoeCool90]

@@theblackflame4002 only DD and The Defenders were any good out of those.

[@michakakol7629]

Don't know what you're talking about, I'm one of the biggest Netflix Daredevil fans there is and they barely damaged his character. Matt Murdock was always cocky, in She-Hulk they used it as much as they could. He still acts and fights like he did in his show (thanks to the god behind the character that is Charlie Cox). They even managed to capture the small details like Matt readjusting his gloves (meaning he was checking the walls without them), him shouting after getting blasted with She-Hulk clap wave (his hearing is much more sensitive than others obviously) and even got his soundtrack back (something Marvel rarely gets done right). The only things on the nose are some of the jokes and the walk of shame, but I dont think those were enough to "ruin" him or damage him. There were more on the positive side than negative and that was ultra lucky, considering how horrible She-Hulk is.

[@Bronn92]

This character was great in the 80s and 90s comics by John Byrne: It's sad that this is going to be the first and only contact with She-Hulk for a lot of people, because she really deserves more.

[@gloriousmongoose]

Old She-Hulk comics: Make a journey home with a vase funny because a bloody robot bounty hunter has been hired to kick the crap out of you to get it. She-Hulk the show: PAIN

[@blacklivesorblackvotes2985]

@bastiat that’s not really a to be fair. Comics being shit doesn’t mean the movies and shows had to be. And it definitely doesn’t mean they had to take from the shit comics. They got decades of good comics to scroll through and they chose the shit ones? They don’t deserve fairness for that decision.

[@sloth0708]

"I'm an expert at controlling my anger bc I do it INFINITELY MORE THAN U" she screams at the man, meditating across from her, despite having been sealed in a fate worse than death for nearly two decades.

[@shadysorkin9214]

This show is comedy gold and I pray it gets renewed for season 2. The endless youtube content it has given me without having to actually watch it is the best value since the McRib.

[@dominicturnbull2735]

The show sexist. And not really funny

[@runek100]

And it flopped so hard, which is also amazing to see. I want it to go beyond rock bottom

[@user-uq9se1nx9q]

Yeah, thats a sarcasm

[@Ozzie_Mandias]

I agree... I want this show to get another season... so we all can get endless KZbin critics using their immense wit to decimate this show and its cast of losers.

[@NinaNiterose86]

Damn I really do want a McRib now!

[@theunknowncommenter725]

I want to thank the actual fans of the She-Hulk character for introducing me to comics and animation where the character is done justice.

[@Narcan885]

The character doesn't have a reason to exist to begin with. She's just part of the long list of "what if we take a popular male superhero...... and just switch his gender, and make her entire personality based on that?". Boring, lazy, unoriginal, senseless.

[@Thanatos0519]

@@Narcan885 what lead to the character's creation was seeing the popularity of the incredible Hulk tv show, the studio wanted to make a female version like the Bionic Woman so Marvel had to jump to secure a copyright before the studio did.

[@webbedshadow2601]

Me too, I haven't read any yet but I'll be sure to cause She-Hulk looks INFINITELY better looking in the comics than in this CGI insult to Shrek gross abomination of a series

[@larryfoulkeofficial8609]

@@Narcan885 you did not read the comics lol

[@renansantos6533]

@@larryfoulkeofficial8609 He definitely didn't lol, the character of She-Hulk is so perfect in the comics 😊

[@matthewmitchell3457]

When that guy said "there's a hot chick over there, I'm gonna go talk to it", I literally burst out laughing. (It was the kind of laughing spurt that starts with you blowing a sudden, involuntary raspberry between your lips. Fun times.) That's the kind of thing you only say about someone when you're consciously _trying_ to communicate your disdain for them. Apparently that guy _wanted_ Jen to believe that he's a shameless, raging misogynist? Umm, why?

[@Mr_Mistah]

Cringe writing at its best

[@anthonyf616]

I don't think even rapists call women an "it"

[@chriswhinery925]

Well, because Jen is also female, so why would he care what she thinks? Sorry, what "it" thinks. Hopefully the writers of this show will soon get the therapy they need because their misandry is clearly showing.

[@dottorekaoz8679]

I think it is a psychological reflection of the writers. When a guy does not pay her full attention, she has the feeling that he will jump up and just go to another girl because she "is" unworthy. That is the mindset of an insecure princess. Also, the lack of any resistance against the main character might be a reflection of the writers feeling that the world does not bend to her will - and that is inherent evilness of the world. In that case and generalized over a certain social group, these women are experiencing... growing up. They are stuck in the mindset of three-year-olds.

[@Nytellem]

@@dottorekaoz8679 This whole show was an reflection of the writers. That’s why I tell my friends that this show is NOT about She-Hulk, it’s NOT about Jen, and it’s of course NOT about the Marvel Cinematic Universe. It’s about them, the Writers. This is some weird and sad way of them using this show as a way to express their deepest thoughts and feelings about the world they live in, in their minds. Your right. They clearly need help.

[@killerbees1199]

I know I'm late to the party realizing this, but this is what you get when the studio produces and releases it's own content. No accountability to anyone, and thank you for bringing it to the light so we can all see

[@chrispekel5709]

The fact she doesn't seem to have a life outside of work and drinking is actually pretty realistic to be honest. Go to any big city (over 3 million) and find a downtown bar on a Friday night and talk to some career office girls with good jobs

[@willcresson8776]

I work in a small "progressive" city (city is 47k people, metro is 235k) and it's honestly the same.

[@neonsponge37]

"Go to any .. bar .. and talk to some career office girls.." Yeah, if She Hulk is anything to go by, I'd rather stay single. 🤣

[@blackagent4754]

This is why women weren't allowed in the workforce. Not to oppress them, but to protect them from the depression and stress of jobs.

[@iamgreatalwaysgreat8209]

I think people with some hobbies/more life outside generally dont go to bar

[@karanaher5030]

@@blackagent4754 Meh it's usually because the husband has a inferiority complex and is thus against his wife earning more than him/at all. But whatever, you do you.

[@ZakEmber]

Nice video! Yep... I live in LA, and "Jen Walters" is everywhere. So many women out here have such a twisted view of feminism that it makes them unhappy in everything, and yet, they don't see it for what it is, and continually push into it harder... just like this show. The rant at 10:50 is SPOT ON. "I don't need a man to define me!" - immediately followed by, "Why don't men like me?!" - followed by, "Men are pigs!" - followed by, "On a scale of 1-10, I'm an eleven, and I deserve an 11!" - followed by, "He hasn't asked me out, he's totally hung up on looks!" They don't even hear themselves anymore. When someone's pissy and negative about everything and treat men, (even if the man has the best intentions) like an enemy, why would anyone be surprised that you're unliked, untrusted, and alone!? Modern feminism in a nutshell, folks.

[@TheSushiandme]

Facts. I hate Cali girls

[@agonsfitness7308]

Best comment in this thread.

[@TheTwober]

A problem that fuels itself.

[@PhoenixCrown]

Sad. And when I was younger and thought there was something wrong with me because women behaved like this... Then again I took some growing up too ;)

[@212thBeehiveMan]

@@TheTwober a self-fulfilling prophecy

[@myheathenheart1259]

So happy everytime the drinker uploads . You know its gonna be good

[@chasehedges6775]

His content is always spectacular 😊

[@chucksenhowzen9740]

I’m a simple man, I see a Drinker video, I get drunk

[@Dumapower1996]

Agreed 👍

[@SpecShadow]

his content is more entertaining that most products dropped by modern entertainment industry, whenever it's movies, tv series or videogames...

[@chasehedges6775]

@@SpecShadow Indeed

[@lostkrusader4495]

Best part was when Drinker opens our eyes about where these ridiculous storylines actually come from - the active Hollywood lives of the writers and their own personal beliefs, struggles, insecurities, and gripes. You sit and watch these shows and wonder how on earth they can be written so badly, but when you look at the scripts through that frame of reference, it suddenly all makes complete sense.

[@frankdoss6313]

My daughter enthusiastically sat through the entire series, hoping the next episode might be worth watching. Then she was traumatically disappointed by the disaster of a season finale.

[@v44n7]

I think i saw the last few min of the last episode because my gf was watching it. So the main plot for the last episode is he got mad because a porn video of her got leaked? I mean literally even if a men want to make a parody of a she-hulk could have come up with such level of roasting.

[@bliczb8772]

I have a question - why did you let your daughter watch that show?

[@leche-y-pan]

@@bliczb8772 fr how old is she? 😭

[@wanaplay6923]

Honest to god you should've just ripped the band aid off.

[@cannibaletiquette5038]

you know what might make her feel better. The comic book. maybe not from the last five years but before that. probably wouldnt hurt just to avoid her asking the question, "is it me?"

[@Merlynn132]

I went into She-Hulk hoping that the narcissism and lack of self-awareness were going to lead to Jen learning and growing as a person. The obvious character flaws others can see in her but she can't see herself because she's locked up in her own head. It could've been an interesting story about how a woman who felt powerless suddenly gains about as much power as someone could ask for and slowly realizing that she still has problems. Problems she is,ultimately,the source of. And that all the power in the world doesn't mean anything if you don't use it properly or else you can end up being an even bigger problem than the one you were trying to solve. And one of the writers worked on Rick and Morty,which is pretty much known for narcissistic characters waking up to the world outside themselves. So I was hopeful. I'm not hopeful anymore. And it's happening too much to simply say "it's the writers". This shit happening with such regularity means the management is either making demands or deliberately seeking these people out. Or both.

[@queazy03]

Main writer wrote pickle Rick, and some think the therapist (in same episode) was her self insert

[@Merlynn132]

@@queazy03 And how popular is the Pickle Rick episode?

[@fongdimbulator]

@@Merlynn132 probably the most iconic and heavily memed episode ever written

[@Merlynn132]

@@fongdimbulator Yup.

[@SuperLuis225]

@@Merlynn132 I feel the pickle Rick therapist was an insert but I imagine Justin Roiland stopped anything serious from happening cuz it's basically HIS show

[@skroowi8105]

Hulk: I lost everything, I'm on the run and I can't control my affliction. I was severely depressed, so I turned a gun on myself and the other guy spit out the bullet. I can't even end my misery. She-Hulk: Oh, yeah? I was catcalled.

[@Nommie_Noms]

The second I heard the phrase "I'm an expert at controlling my anger because I do it infinitely more than you" I knew what would be the over arching premise of the show and didn't bother watching the rest. I want to enjoy the mcu but since the infinity saga ended it feels like they don't know what to do, I know the infinity saga was somewhat planned out so they knew what they were aiming for in each phase where as with the multiverse saga it feels like they are trying to establish characters and a loose plot but all these new characters basically end up being an anchor for pushing a message of you can do anything you put your mind to or a social justice message. I am really hoping that after Loki season 2 that a bigger plot if portrayed and the characters and franchise finally find their place but after what I have heard about The Marvels I do not hold out much hope.

[@bigfest6498]

Watching Josh Brolin as Thanos is a testament to modern CGI. To go backwards shows the amount of effort that went in to making THE MAIN CHARACTER easy on the eyes.

[@Facade953]

Hulk's CGI USED TO be state of the art as well.

[@Kodaiva]

@@Facade953 sometimes you couldn’t even tell when the first iron man used cgi too

[@meurer13daniel]

Honestly Pirates of the Caribbean CGI is still better than all of this

[@Facade953]

@@Kodaiva Indeed.

[@DeflatingAtheism]

She-Hulk looks like a giant Gumby who doesn’t have the weight and presence of a human being even when seen in still frame. Like Critical Drunker, I thought She-Hulk would have looked so much better if they had just slathered the tall woman in green paint.

[@kovacsj7823]

In the comics, Bruce tried to off himself by a gunshot through the mouth. The Hulk captured the bullet with his teeth. Thats how fast he can transform when his life is threatened. No way he would remaining Bruce through a somewhat long, life threatening car crash.

[@johnkeck307]

If I recall correctly, in the comics that's the way it did happen -- Bruce/Hulk was fine but Jen Walters was critically injured, and they transfused blood from Bruce as a desperate last-ditch play to save her life. But, of course, in The World We Live In Today no man can ever save any woman, no matter how indirectly.

[@connortg5]

that's not even JUST comics thing, that is openly something that happened in the mcu too, bruce tells natasha during their meeting in the first avengers

[@lordpaulphilippfernandez9904]

@@connortg5 You think the writers of this show would care to watch the very first Avengers movie to know more about Hulk? When the same writers can't even summon the urge to read the comics of She-Hulk?

[@Mereologist]

To be fair, Ruffalo is wearing a device specifically designed to prevent him from being Hulk. However, this makes OTHER problems with the show even worse. Maslany is constantly complaining that she doesn't want Hulk powers at all - even though she claims to be in complete control of them and they saved her life in the first episode - and there's literally no explanation why Banner's device can't just permanently restrain her powers too so she can just be a normal person we never hear from again.

[@khfan4life365]

In the first Avengers movie, he told the other Avengers that he put a gun in his mouth and “the other guy spat it back out”. There is a deleted scene from the Hulk movie where he did that in an arctic wasteland and a wide range shot showed the ice collapse.

[@charlesburns7391]

Bruce: The military made me create this thing that backfired and turned me into an uncontrollable rage monster. I lost all control, hurt my girlfriend, got hunted by the army for 5 years, tried to kill myself, I was forced to save the world twice, was abandoned on an alien planet and forced to fight as a Gladiator for years. Only after that I finally gained some control and managed to become myself She Hulk: but I'm a woman

[@rankrodent2772]

Yeah but it’s okay when they do it because they were oppressed hundreds of years ago!!

[@Anonymous-mg8bu]

@@rankrodent2772 excuse me?😡. Please check your mysogeny. 🙅‍♂️🙅‍♂️. Women are still oppressed to this day and I think She-Hulk was an amazing show😍😁👍. Please take a while to think about the way you treat women😡🙅‍♂️😡😡👿👎😾

[@istvanbrooks5319]

​@@Anonymous-mg8bu is think sarcasm No sane person would use that many emojis

[@CEAsfg]

She Hulk: You think your life is hard? I get mild catcalls sometimes. Beat that.

[@Avenus112]

"Sometimes men I don't want to have sex with want to have sex with me and they fail to convince me. Sometimes i dont convince my boss I'm up to a task and that makes me feel bad so I'm the real victim here."

[@seanbarton4530]

I love that he says that the jokes are as funny as a cancer diagnosis and then they make actual jokes about a cancer diagnosis in Thor Love and Thunder