The Cult of JACKIE - 'Jehovah Allah Christ Krishna Immortal Easwaran' (2017)

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Leader had an invented machine. JACKIE or Jehovah Allah Christ Krishna Immortal Easwaran. The deluded leader was convicted and jailed.
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[@twstf8905]

"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." ---Voltaire 1765

[@doc2kiwidig663]

That is so appropriate right now...with Donald and all..

[@SKY-wt2pp]

Most underrated comment......ever. Thank you for highlighting Voltaires words for us.

[@tonyboleno8191]

these jackie people seem legit to me. maybe you should convert to the true path of love and light.

[@mariloubalocating3912]

Sllh s

[@vanessamw1140]

@@tonyboleno8191 lol you first. I'll follow.

[@feurigerStern]

This video confirms that education and socialization is critically important.

[@venusawaken6656]

feuriger Stern even that isn’t enough. It’s not enough to go to school where you learn to regurgitate what you’ve been taught (and taught what “they” want you to think). It’s not enough to socialize in a world where you have to be careful of what you say to anyone for fear of severe backlash from snowflakes that literally complain about everything one says. You must do your own research. You must surround yourself with like minded folks. Hold that knowledge within and share sparingly. With that, you can catch anyone off guard, always.

[@SpitefulToast]

@@venusawaken6656 Oh boy, any opportunity to insult "the snowflakes," eh? Education is a good thing, as is socialization. Your last three sentences sound existentially paranoid, like the act of living is a zero-sum game, and that you must find a hive mind in-group to live in. That's no way to carry on.

[@vicksss807]

feuriger Stern: Also parental guidance

[@jlleibold1974]

Education maybe..... though schools today have become their own brainwashing cults. Socialism has and is destroying peoples lives everywhere so hell no on that.

[@TheOneGuy1111]

@Venus Awaken "You must surround yourself with like minded folks. Hold that knowledge within and share sparingly." People surrounding themselves with likeminded folks and refusing to debate with others is a problem, not a solution...

[@user-nn1gf9yi6l]

That neighbor man who was all broken up about not doing anything for Katie was so sweet. Made me sad for him that he felt so guilty.

[@Dream-Me]

How was there not an enquiry when people kept dying at the house. It's absolutely shocking.

[@kaarlimakela3413]

Carl Sagan - 'It pays to keep an open mind, but not so open your brains fall out.'

[@valeriecoleman9755]

Lol

[@angiearthur1408]

Kaarli Makela 😂😂😂😂

[@mooniepeters8426]

K

[@jsmithmultimediatech]

FFS that gave me a chuckle lol!!!

[@romant142]

Kaarli Makela I’m tired of that quote

[@danieltrummer9636]

I love how now that chick born in captivity realizes how crazy the Shit he said was

[@SamHughesBRITNEY]

Daniel Trummer but I don’t get it because they said she was mentally 10 years old

[@oldbat2ccats]

She was held to that mental age by a lack of education. When she was cared for by the people who subsequently looked after her, she was brought along to a more appropriate age

[@MsTinkerbelle87]

Daniel Trummer she had to be deprogrammed so now she realizes how stupid it all is..

[@LaZainabou]

I think she is her child

[@Ilikelink]

@@MsTinkerbelle87 No, actually she realised it herself while still in the house.

[@girlnextdoor0703]

The youngest lady seems so lovely, I hope she’s living a full life now.

[@marceltawbe5226]

In sha allah. God willing,

[@lekkki1]

I think they're all lovely, especially in regard to what they have been through. I wish all of them well.

[@carmenismyname]

Marcel Tawbe oh please your almighty and all powerful god should step in and make this world a better place but he clearly doesn’t want to , does he? Bcs he could, couldn’t he?? How CRUEL is that ??

[@daytonasayswhat9333]

Yeah, I’m sure she has a great life. Healthy relationships. Good sex life. Leadership positions in blue chip companies.

[@thecrisco_kid4915]

So was Balla Her Father??

[@RegularMat]

12:10 controling Brazil as a start? man thats impossible, not even brazilians control Brazil

[@justdesserts7872]

Chained Elephant effect, physically they could probably walk out the door, but psychological they were all chained to this person who they were taught is God.

[@ohmeowzer1]

Just Desserts Stockholm syndrome

[@ohmeowzer1]

Are these people Mormon? I don’t think so ,,,

[@ohmeowzer1]

Yes God is real I promise..but these people are so evil .....

[@gowdsake7103]

Mary and Beth I am betting you have as much evidence as these deluded ladys ! . Anything ? is betting you cannot justify what you said !

[@jseden]

For sure! I've always called it "baby elephant theory" since I remember asking my dad how elephants can be contained with just a spike&chain.. applies to alot of circumstances

[@briangray925]

Real life sometimes freaks me out

[@dreasmom2789]

Brian Gray I agree and its also sad that now days somethings dont freak me out because its getting normal to hear about sociopaths.

[@TheSherif209]

Brian Gray Real life shit is crazier than stuff in the movies or books! Thats why that say crazier than fiction!

[@nicholasordonez8021]

Maureen Longthorne that's why we need jesus christ. Sick

[@mimigray5053]

nicholas ordonez Christianity is just another cult dude....

[@Bennyer]

TP Sun ......thats gold im gonna use that line

[@danielx555]

It is heartbreaking to watch Aisha. She seems like a very kind, gentle, malleable human being, so vulnerable. And even in the scene where they tell the reporter to leave, the other two women are shouting hateful nonsense and she politely waves her hand and asks the reporter to leave.

[@writheagainsoon]

I’ve watched this doc too many times to count. The most triggering part to me is still 9:38 . The way she chuckles is like watching a reflection of myself and every abuse survivor I know of speaking of our own abusive parent’s delusions. Those two saviours were so right, it’s not because we think it’s funny (though usually we do even if just a wee bit), it’s because people make us feel crazy for believing the things these people told us while they had every semblance of power over us.

[@DaJesster0405]

This is so true. I was just talking about this the other day with a friend.

[@rubytuesday5412]

As she was speaking the words coming out sounded so ridiculous to her now that she's OK and in her right mind that I was laughing too. *Not at her but with her.* Pizza delivery guy coming to Gods door! I'm so glad she came out the other end of it all, others weren't so fortunate. The poor Asian lady and the teeth, so sad. Bless her heart.

[@francinelaurin520]

@@rubytuesday5412 Ditto lol .. moi, canada 🇨🇦 🌌

[@mamabee4360]

Never realized this.

[@kathleen2568]

Spot on ✌🏼

[@charlesdavis7087]

I wanted to join Paranoids Anonymous but they wouldn't tell me where they were meeting.

[@chenaichan2213]

Charles Davis have you checked over your shoulder?

[@charlesdavis7087]

Thank you. I just did... and there you are... with a number of GWBrotherdhood guys. H i You seemingly know who I am... but the bottom line... you don't know what I can really do. Right? Right. So now, that we are on some semblance of equanimity? After coming all this way just to say: "How the heck are you Honney? Of course, I see you... and those companions with you in the gold-white light. I may not understand at the moment... but... the moment unfoldes into... Love will always find a way. Hi Chenai..... Love, Charles Davis, A.T.O.M. >)

[@charlesdavis7087]

Of course dear. Thank you (s) for being present. Choose to breath. Talk with you down the line. Rt. Rev. Charles Vincent Davis, A.T.O.M.

[@matildadhumxoxo5801]

I didn't join because I thought that the members were plotting to get me.

[@paulj0557tonehead]

I founded Solipsistic anonymous. I'm the only member.

[@eljesperado]

When Katie first escaped at 22, she should never have been returned to the cult as she was legally an adult.

[@tweak114]

lol you talking about a very small percent of police the number of police to police death ratio is actually probably quite low for the population of the U.Sin fact a quick google search will show the number of police murders goes down each year since 1979 there were 114 police murders and 106 cops were murdered pretty even numbers now fast forward 2015 and only 49 police murders and 46 cops killed looking at these numbers I'd say we are doing better the number of police has increased by almost 400,000 so the fact they are killing less now says something about the 70's , I'm not really justifying wrongful death, however, to say there literally isn't one cop on the force that does good or makes a difference is as silly as me saying every cop is an angel.

[@DAYBROK3]

She had the apparent age of a young child when she was 30 so how much younger would she have seemed at 22.

[@joshuawiseman5629]

There's more wrongful deaths of cops vice versa everyone wants to say that cops are racist etc but if you crunch the numbers cops are killed more by blacks then cops killing blacks I'm not saying cops don't fuck up but you got to put in perspective we have no idea what these cops go through on a day to day basis and what many people don't realize is body language is extremely important especially when dealing with cops and so cops may misinterpret someone's body language and a shooting can occur because they are going back to their experiences and may feel threatened because of past experiences I think not only should police procedure change but our behavior in dealing with cops should change as well when your in a high stress job all day everyday it's easy to eventually snap I deal with stupid people all the time and they piss me off imagine dealing with people giving you shit giving you attitude spitting in your face cussing disrespecting you all the time after awhile youre gonna develop a short fuse I'm not saying it's right and I think cops can be very incompetent and fucked up but there's still many good cops and I think people would wish they had someone to call in a dangerous situation if cops didn't exist we gotta look at both sides

[@tweak114]

thats not true the numbers suggest more PEOPLE kill cops then cops kill people the study had nothing to do with race

[@nicholasordonez8021]

Joshua Wiseman TRUTH

[@radhakumar6706]

Whatever he did to the women, they are so messed up. I hope they can recover.

[@KyleInOklahoma]

*_This lady with the white knitted hat just seem's like a beautiful soul. I bet shes a truly nice person & will touch many lifes in her remaining time. I just want to give her a hug.. God Bless her_*

[@oisinm332]

They thought he was immortal, didn't they see him age.

[@mariakelly5]

@backtodafuture1987 Apparently he needs the body because he has a harem that to has to be sexually satisfied. This harem includes his son's wife.

[@PopeCocksmoker]

@backtodafuture1987 This guy already believes you should let your teeth fall out so you can regrow another set in a hundred years. Presumably he said (thought? Who knows) that he'd get to hit the reset button in about a century.

[@miriamhavard7621]

Brainwashed

[@KrinhMcFluff]

he had to age to look "normal" humanity wasnt ready... duh

[@fredmutua7684]

Love is blind!😂

[@ohmeowzer1]

I feel so sorry for these poor women ,,breaks my heart ,,omg that sweet lady who was told her teeth would grow back ..poor sweetie she is

[@Fitheach81]

seems like a classic comedy to me, the thing with the teeth growing back was pure gold! anyway, it's fake news :D

[@FemaleAnimeMaster]

Yes these poor sweet women that held a woman down while the man beat her badly. How innocent and sweet.

[@Baner496]

@@FemaleAnimeMaster truth

[@WhiteLiteBarbie]

Not so sweet....

[@JellyBabie1984]

@@Fitheach81 Of course because cults have never existed right lol. What fantasy world do you life in, because you clearly don't live in reality if you think things like this don't exist. Stay ignorant my friend.

[@WildAscension]

I feel bad for these women. The oldest one wasn’t even allowed to know about dental care. Even at the smallest level this man controlled their lives and beliefs. My prayers are with them.

[@turnip9488]

Remember friends, when you really get the short end of the stick, you can either laugh or cry. Do whichever one you need to do to maintain whatever is left of your sanity

[@ladylaois8184]

Cassidy Miller some of these comments show the lack Of understanding of the fragile mind and mental health. I’m a retired psychiatric professional and have seen this reaction on the psychiatric wards

[@dianaweaver8639]

Cassidy Miller yes u do

[@trixtrix146]

I always laugh lol

[@truecrimewithcammy4768]

I agree

[@truecrimewithcammy4768]

Do u mean in the psychiatric wards you seem desensitized

[@rickyboy613]

*Pizza delivery men are annoying fascists* lol

[@ejedwards988]

Was a pizza boy for two years, can confirm.

[@lhorrencastillano5742]

Lol

[@Dsmurf2201]

Imagine had it been a jehovah's witness. How ironic and annoying at the same time

[@thomasswoodward]

Together we can overthrow the chains of mozzarella oppression.

[@samsulkarimi]

Since he is taking longer than 30 minutes

[@rinayeraymahafha9315]

The control this guy had on the three women just reminds me of how the people in North Korea are suffering under the control of one man.

[@Alice-ov3rd]

I feel sorry for all the victims but most of all Jackie. She was a child who had no choice in the matter and was brought up like a prisoner. It’s amazing how bright she is considering what happened to her. My heart goes to all the victims that were brave enough to speak out.

[@ceceanne4388]

Katie ! Jackie was the name given to a machine that helped control the world

[@samwindmill8264]

Lol the poor mind control machine 😂 (the girl's name is Katie, commenter got it mixed up)

[@LesleighHart]

Once you understand that when she laughs when it is not funny but she is upset, it is all the more distressing to watch. These women are all so broken in so many ways. They were manipulated, abused and used. Fear is terrible for what it makes you do to others or accept having done to yourself. I am glad they are out but damn, the level of punishment this man deserves for what he has done is unlimited. The police who sent her back to that hell have a lot to answer for as well.

[@jlynnhulse2628]

It's disheartening to see so many rude comments or jokes bn made. Even the one still fighting for his release is an ongoing victim of systematic abuse& indoctrination. You can see it in their answers to questions, they're still unsure of his power, his possible reach. Sadly this is happening everywhere in someway. Abuse is rampant. Ask the questions, say hello, open ur eyes & speak up as many of the abused cannot yet find their voices...

[@OakleyANDSittingBull]

Hear! HEAR!!!

[@knaptmenneskelig2611]

JLynn H ..... This is no different then most every religion, they all are based on fear, religions use indoctrination and the fear of heinous retribution for the failure to do as told or even questioning the religions validity, and the promise of reward for blindly following the religions doctrines, thus becoming no more then automaton's

[@kalnedwillee1647]

Yes!! Perfectly said! We can only barely underatand the life long effects of long term mind control !!

[@marceltawbe5226]

Thank you!

[@dianaweaver8639]

Nothing is funny about this

[@andrewleob]

the lil old lady deserves better. i hope she finds peace soon

[@TheCynicalDude_]

Yeah, I hope she "finds peace" soon also. We're talking about killing the old bag, right?

[@venusawaken6656]

TheCynicalDouche your username fits you after reading your comment bahahaha

[@venusawaken6656]

I hope she does too. I feel terrible, but she’s at that point in her life where no one should say “you’ve been brainwashed and didn’t do s**t your entire adulthood.” You can’t just ruin someone like that when they’re close-ish to the end. My father in law was dying of cancer and thought that he had a wonderful relationship with his wife. I knew they didn’t, in fact, she couldn’t stand him. We just let him think that rather than telling the truth because we wanted him to live out his remaining days happy with his own truth. He didn’t deserve to die unhappy with the actual truth. It’s not fair.

[@your_belief_vs_everything]

She's a willing participant. Fuck her.

[@Lara-xu3yc]

I found it quite belittling when the interviewer kind of talked to her as if she is a child.. never mind the lady's vocabulary is greater than average

[@jassimjaleel4502]

I heard that young minds can be brainwashed but in this case adults were the prey. The old Malaysian lady seems to be still in fear and hiding a lot of things.

[@Dra3000]

Brainwashing has no age

[@daytonasayswhat9333]

Jassim Jaleel weak

[@juliasephaka8033]

She looks a little confused also

[@emptyv7592]

That's refreshing to see the girl laughing at the ridiculous beliefs. I realize it's a coping mechanism because I have a similar way of dealing with my trauma. Sometimes you have to laugh to keep from crying.

[@soleclaw6521]

Poor Aisha! I wish I could take her in! She misses the people who wronged her, & has no family! Id be her family. Poor lady! Heartbreaking to see her cry !

[@purebloodheretic4682]

Terrible waste of 40yrs of her Life, Now she has No one or Nothing Left! She does seem like a Victim of a Psychopath!

[@kalankithaseena6498]

She still seems like a supporter of the cult, so I have less sympathy for her.

[@jewelo1772]

i feel the same way

[@BloodNote]

@@kalankithaseena6498 she's still a victm too. Brainwashing is real.

[@ella-bt8hp]

@@BloodNote agreed the fact she still supports them in some way shows how badly brainwashed she actually was. Very sad story I remember this on the news "slavery" and remember being so shocked hearing that this could happen in this day and age. Just shocking.

[@Em-im1yz]

Those poor women I hope they’re getting all the help and support they need to try live a normal life.

[@demetriusmiddleton1246]

@pumpertube I don't understand why people are so insistent at always making the claim that someone made a choice to do XYZ. And now somehow whenever someone makes a choice, sympathy is completely unwarranted? People make choices for different reasons! And those reasons aren't always as clear-cut as you would like to believe with your simple Proclamation, dumbing it down to "but they made a choice". Smh

[@sonjapikel4301]

I grew up in a cult. In no way was it this extreme but there’s still many deep beliefs drilled into me that brought so much more anxiety and self doubt that I’m still sorting and trying to understand. Even now I’m still trying to figure out who I am and what I believe and if I believe it because I choose to believe it or if it’s the doctrine I grew up in.. it’s something you never really stop thinking about. It comes up in every choice you make tugging you back because it’s familiar but silently drains you spirit and you lose your sense of direction in your life..

[@warrenmccarthy5492]

What was the cult called? That's awesome you got out of there yo.

[@Embers_Glow]

🫶🏻

[@kerrieohanlon2663]

I'm so sorry babes. I pray with all my being that you are now in a better place emotionally and that you're able to find happiness xxx

[@Follows_Christ]

Give it to Jesus. He will comfort and guide you if you seek him.

[@aureliusfeynman485]

I'm so sorry you had to endure this. I wish you are able to live the life you want, as free of imposed thoughts as possible and happy ❤️ You are enough, strong and courageous!

[@alisharogers5742]

I don't understand the statement that Katie was actually more like a 10 year old mentally...she seemed much more advanced to me.

[@issafula]

MishaMae82 ApparentlyMoreThanApostate same

[@emesul8902]

They clarify towards the end that she appeared to be 10 when she was first rescued, and that she's now more close to her actual age

[@MissJessyeNorman]

They said that she's now quite close to her numerical age. She was delayed in this way when she first arrived. It makes perfect sense. She was deprived, abused and stunted in myriad severe, dramatic, overwhelming, heinous ways. To be disallowed from leaving one's home for 30 years?! That alone is pernicious intellectual, developmental, and social deprivation of a profound degree as to be wholly unfathomable by most. Speaking the truth of her process of healing does not reflect negatively upon her in ANY way. It WHOLLY AND SOLELY reflects negatively upon Bala first - and to a lesser degree, the adult members of the collective who made the abuse possible. He abused her, and caused her to have these delays, with which she is now forced to cope and fix. They say nothing about her cognitive abilities, how bright she is, etc. - as it's obvious she's sharp as a tack and coming into her own. The fact that she has been able to progress emotionally and mentally in a short span of time, is testament to her bravery, resilience, intelligence, intuition, insight, and dogged tenacity. THAT is what is hers! And these two lovely people are clearly responsible for fostering her development and healing. Kudos to all three!

[@marilyncatalano6478]

I agree. Especially when she spoke about "spontaneous human combustion". I cannot think a single 10 year old who wasn't captive, knowing about that. Then used it in a sentence. Doesn't seem at all like she thinks like a 10 y.o., even now.

[@LittleKitty22]

She recovered after she got rescued. I suffered the same, due to extreme neglect and abuse. By the time I started school (aged 6), I couldn't talk, could barely walk - not because there was anything wrong with me, but because of severe neglect and abuse. I had never been interacted with, never been taught to talk or walk, couldn't get dressed by myself, couldn't use the bathroom. I had never been taught basic life skills, and wasn't even allowed to do anything alone. Now I know that it was a case of neglect, but also of keeping me quiet, ie unable to tell anyone what was happening. Now you wouldn't guess if you met me, I'm of higher than average intelligence and have a talent for writing.

[@ohmeowzer1]

God Bless all these ladies I hope their lives are peaceful now

[@gowdsake7103]

Your gawd did fuck all did he ?

[@MegaCheeseburger123]

I just wanna say thank you for captioning this. It means a lot to many people.

[@ariglobalbusinesssolutions1647]

Yes. Really helps as I'm hearing impaired. Discovering the world is lovely!

[@tylergullion9787]

I love reading the comments on these videos

[@TheRisskee]

Dang, Scotland Yard and the police REALLY dropped the ball on this one at least 3 times. The dude that said "I'm keeping my eye on you" didn't know shit and obviously didn't do shit about it. It was a worthless warning. The investigatory powers were not at their finest. Someone should have asked why a grown adult "ran away from home" and if some bullshit excuse like "oh, she's mentally challenged" was used, a well fair check should have been employed multiple times over. I'm shocked at the inadequacy of the discerning powers that be. Being "stretched thin, isn't an excuse either. Absolutely shocking...

[@tylergullion9787]

Peter (the neighbor) shouldn't feel bad about this..he had no way of knowing what was going on..the fact that he gets upset about it shows how much he really cares and that is enough to know he would've helped if he could

[@CassTrashPuppy]

He feels guilty because he damn well knew something was off ,but did nothing .

[@BlkOnyx0508]

@@CassTrashPuppy I was about to write something similar.

[@Monica-vv1zt]

He feels guilty not because he didn't know but he didn't do anything. I'm sure that there must have been so many signs such as the child not being in school, being isolated and being unhappy. If he had called social services and/or the police it could be a completely different story and this young woman might not be so damaged. 30 years of her life ruined and fucked up.

[@superplus8790]

I understand her laughter. Where I come from we used to say "bad things make one laugh"

[@katrinakardashian7307]

Omg ppl are funny to say that it can mean good until the wrong humans get a hold of it

[@portiavaughn3482]

Touches the soul while mocking sin

[@sselassie3126]

I'm a psych major. Humans use laughter to cope with things that make us uncomfortable.

[@shahnjaylaconnors1476]

I think she is feeling embarrassed that she believed was she was told. Saying it out loud makes it seem different for her when she was being interviewed. It's a nervous laugh. That's how some people deal with sadness or stress.

[@mariekatherine5238]

You’d think Jackie could do something about those eyeglasses.

[@danasperry4685]

Dude... chill. You trying to piss him off! Is this comment why 2020 has been the year from hell? 🤪

[@shanfarco1574]

Being a cult leader clearly didn't pay well

[@wiskeydickbomber3384]

I'm not convinced that this guy and his machine does not control the world. It seems pretty legit

[@bilbobaggins4403]

Oh he does......hail Jackie

[@daytonasayswhat9333]

Lol. Maybe we can three d print it.

[@sselassie3126]

Bro. When they were talking about how China rules the world. That hit way too close to home.

[@stormhansen1499]

Policeman: "We suspected they were on drugs so the place was raided. No drugs were found so the place was closed and boarded up." Eh, Why? Because no drugs were found? Brilliant logic, mr. ex police! Jiiiiiiiiiiz....

[@jasonm7973]

The Brits love it. Wouldn't wanna lose yur TV Liscense wouldja m8

[@humongousfungusamongus3871]

But if the search warrent states that they were only looking for drugs, & find none, there really isn't much the police may do. Even if they found a dead body with a knife sticking out of it's head, the warrent ONLY says "drugs," & there isn't much the cops may do about the dead body. Silly, I know, but that's how the cookie crumbles....

[@TheJenniferKK]

@@humongousfungusamongus3871 Honey, that's not how the cookie crumbles. Grow a brain or read up on the law. If they find a dead body while looking for drugs, they're not only allowed, but OBLIGED to follow up.

[@humongousfungusamongus3871]

@@TheJenniferKK - "Grow a brain?" It seems you need to brush up on how the human body works. See, we ALL are not perfect. Don't ever try to make someone feel stupid over a mistake, because WE ALL ERR. You CANNOT reprimand someone for making a mistake, something WE ALL do. Mentiendes? It just makes you look bad....

[@TheJenniferKK]

@@humongousfungusamongus3871 My apologies if I was too harsh.

[@karlpetersenstock]

Nothing suprises me anymore !!! I hope the girl that was born in the cult is doing well and healthy now ✌

[@CherieDeDieu]

It is so sad how these women got 30 and more years of their lives wasted and stolen by this evil man. 😠😢😢 If I was their neighbour I would cry just imagining what they went through like that kind neighbour Peter. The pain he feels shows how kind he is. Bless his heart. 😢

[@EnderPearlRs]

The people who try to help victims like this are real saints. Seeing/hearing this kind of stuff fills me with a murderous rage.

[@traitorjoseph1893]

omg that woman aisha is such an angel i want to cry

[@MyMaitetxu]

You have a very very strange notion of what an angel is darling....

[@vibinpenguin7021]

@Sam Lutfi how?? she's incredibly perceptive given what she's been through

[@taylorj6177]

"Ooh, JACKIE Blue Lives her life from inside of her room Hides a smile when she's wearin' a frown Ooh, Jackie you're not so down"

[@miriamhavard7621]

WOW!!!! Made my hair stand up. I remember that song.........

[@jomcmenamin4579]

First came Jackie then came Alexa

[@KDL861]

Jo McMenamin 😂

[@daytonasayswhat9333]

Lol

[@amber_Forever16]

Lol

[@fifi78962]

😂😂

[@kennyclauw9713]

i just came thinking of you rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[@cheezburgrproduction]

My brain needs a good washing after these interviews, wow!

[@sm00thns]

Holy shit, a british pizzaboy caused the Kobe earthquake ... it all makes sense now.

[@MohamedAli-kj5yy]

😂 😂 😂 😂

[@andymassey8105]

Guess it’s the definition of the “dominos pizza” effect ?

[@KatZolitaMason]

Fascinating documentary well done- Thanks. I Iove some of the footage of London in the 60s.

[@chris7brook]

Hi Kat!

[@melhay9969]

70’s

[@oldbat2ccats]

The video ended rather abruptly. What a fascinating story, had never heard it before. Glad Katie is finally going to live her own life now.

[@miasmic100]

Aisha is the most innocent victim, innocent as a child, she still needs someone to care for her. How do crook personalities influence so well, Wow, what amazing control

[@jusschaa]

Be wary of charismatic people LOL (but not really LOL.)

[@clarkporter1340]

It's in our ability 2 believe tins without evidence. It's d reason tins like religion thrived during d dark ages but not as much 2day.

[@PraiseTheFSMonster]

Fascinating! Definitely one of the better cult vids on youtube

[@justinbrewer9776]

33:15 - An authentic human moment. Compassion for your fellow human beings.

[@theemeraldangel8464]

Agreed. What a loving soul....

[@tristanbulluss9386]

It's the minority congregating.

[@instanteggnoodl]

I'm still trying to wrap my head around this!

[@mybraineatseverything7404]

And the ad that played before the video was for the Mormon Church! 🤣😂

[@your_belief_vs_everything]

Mine was for an app to learn Arabic so you can better be brainwashed by the quran. Same shit, different asshole except when mormons marry little girls they go to jail.

[@Zeck-vy9wi]

@@your_belief_vs_everything yeah. and mine was a church ads that ask me to donate so i can go to heaven. dang.

[@DallasCanada]

Thank you for the upload.

[@De5O54]

Welcome. I can remember this being on the news first. Followers sticking by him after he was jailed. A horrible mad hybrid pick 'n' mix Socialist Worker/ Judeo/ Maoist delusion cult stuck in time warp. Hoping your people are all Ok over by. --- You've a load of videos, catching up on them now. TY also.

[@spacecase7566]

Curious. Dallas Canada? Are you a Texan Albertan? :)

[@milascave2]

This was not an uncommon mix. Both the Children of God and The Peoples Temple advocated "Godly Socialism." This sounds like Christian socialism, but it was actually an odd and self-contradictory blend of Leninism and Christianity.

[@nickreyes3604]

Space Case lol too funny

[@Incognitofrito1]

Interesting documentary...also, the music used in this documentary is BEAUTIFUL.

[@higgsfieldinthefield9916]

That poor girl, what a living hell for someone to grow up in.

[@TheFakeyCakeMaker]

When she laughed about the pizza man I just wanted to hug her, it made me happy that despite all the horrible things she'd suffered she could see it all for what it is. :-) Shame it cuts off at the end but I wish Katy well in recovering from her past.

[@missbubu1611]

The experts just said that she’s not laughing because she realized how silly it was. She’s laughing because she’s in stress.

[@erikm8372]

Of course she’s stressed, her entire world was stressed… but I also think that, given her younger age compared to the other women, she can actually see it for what it is and probably thought he was insane! She did say he sounds “kind of crazy”, and who’s to say what anyone else truly believes on the inside…

[@linzoe8031]

Except for Katie, who was born there, I missed this point: how did the others get there, get involved in the first place?

[@MsTinkerbelle87]

Try wiki..it’s really hard to explain. It really wasn’t a church or religious thing..

[@daytonasayswhat9333]

Just being gullible women.

[@Supersctar]

It seems like Antifa cults such as the BAMN people, preying on gullible teens and college students but unlike Antifa cults they were hooked on a messiah in place of drugs. A pretty old trick applied to political rather than spiritual liberation to same effect.

[@ceceanne4388]

By replying to a leaflet that promised communism it seems ?

[@thisisavivistanaccount7866]

Marina started singing and I just went with it. This was eye opening and fascinating in a morbid way. I feel bad for these woman who were placed in this situation. I happy they are safe, but The mental scars they have weill never leave

[@bobbypaluga4346]

People spend less time examining and choosing a cult, than they do buying coffee

[@kandie3127]

Usually don't find manipulative coffee out searching for people to drink up lol

[@Flatleava]

Captured by coffee , don’t want help

[@diesel_dawg]

Volume on this goes up and down more times than an elevator.

[@lettieh.6975]

The policeman is weird as hell. He doesn't blink enough and I don't trust him. Like he might have a collection of kidnapped women himself.

[@spacecase7566]

Lettie H. FTFY - a collection of 'docile, subservient, submissive basement brides....'

[@Tintenfischchen]

He must be a crazy criminal because you feel like he doesn't blink enough? WTF...

[@blu4085]

Violet Heroine ..well no, he doesn't have to be.. There's just this study made on confirmed psychopaths, that they blink much less than an average normal person. I think that might be the angle to this comment.

[@mattschemmer3091]

Despite all the insanity of the cult, his actions were pretty much textbook oppression. They completely fabricated a charge to evict tenants purely based on a different politically belief that, while extreme, wasn't directly violent or doing anything actually illegal. Then, somehow, even when it became clear that the charges were blatantly trumped up, they somehow stuck and still kicked them out. It's battling ideas by force rather than by rational argument and public education.

[@milascave2]

Are you kidding me? Of course the stuff they did was illegal, especialy the kid. And I mean, they killed somebody.

[@annazaman9657]

Katie looks like AB. How could they not join the dots and see who the father was!!!!!?

[@oohily]

anna zaman I wonder if the sex was consensual or if it was rape. The mother was in clear distress and did not want to be there.

[@natemacbane4640]

7:50 broke my heart. You could tell how indoctrinated and broken down she was just by her speech

[@samwindmill8264]

Apparently that woman's father (John Herivel) was a Bletchley Park code breaker...a noble lineage, perhaps sadly "corrupted" by a psychotic megalomaniac who's still got a hold over her

[@sugaredwards6207]

44:01 She escapes & the *cops send her BACK,* & she stays in captivity for another 8 years⁉️ we *pay* these people to protect us 🤯

[@jeschinstad]

Let me tell you something horrible. Freedom of religion and freedom of thought, is the power of the morally corrupt to enslave the innocent. You are totally free to not believe that God will burn you for eternity unless you do as the Master says, hence the Master isn't doing anything wrong. Something has to change.

[@sugaredwards6207]

Jo-Erlend Schinstad good post

[@jeschinstad]

@@sugaredwards6207: I can't accept this any longer. I used to believe that we should protect religion because of the comfort it gives those who need it. But why do I assume that they need it when I don't? Isn't that arrogant? And what of those who are exploited by it and abused to the extreme? No, we cannot have it, I tell you. Those who need comfort should be comforted by other means, but those who are exploited and abused, they must be prioritized. The free must protect the enslaved. If they wish to remain slaves, then we must at least regulate the slavery.

[@memyselfandeye76]

I could be wrong but it sure didn't seem like Katy was in distress. It appeared to me as if she knew it was absurd. I think she deserved more credit than they are giving her

[@xMoac]

Weak minds that are captured by a highly manipulative person can truly imprison people. Critical thinking should be a key subject in schools.

[@littleloner1159]

It's easy to feel stupid and be embarrassed, but especially if you've grown up into something or minds just try to fit our views and world. So if your world has a good side and an enemy, and you have to fit certain standards to be on the good side and survive, your mind will surrender and try to keep that picture. Don't be ashamed! Tell your story with pride so that others can learn from it, too.

[@LittleKitty22]

Very true, but look at all the people even on here saying anyone who joins a cult must be weak, feeble minded, gullible etc - this attitude is what's putting people off telling their story. I got heavily targeted by a cult called the Christadelphians when I was vulnerable as I had been trafficked, had everything I owned stolen from me etc and suddenly found myself all alone in a strange country (the UK) with nothing. And no, nobody helps you in that situation, police accused me of being a prostitute, support organizations accused me of lying! So, the Christadelphians could see how vulnerable I was - so they hit on me. They got mad as hell when they didn't succeed in converting me, and used mind games and gaslighting to try to make me join, going so far as to severely abuse me with accusations of me allegedly being schizophrenic, hallucinating, telling me I would end up not even in hell but in a state of non-existence and that only they would get saved etc etc. They even introduced me to people only for me later to find out that they were psychiatrists, who the Christadelphians had hoped would say "yes she's insane/schizophrenic" or similar. When this didn't happen, the Christadelphians continued to work on me, shouting at me that I was allegedly this "dangerous lunatic" and "should be locked up" etc - interestingly enough, a line that has been used by all abusive people towards me and is well known to be used by narcissists (abusers) towards their victims!!! They tortured my cat and nearly killed him!!! Despite all this I didn't join them - but I can't tell anyone now what this dangerous cult is like (and they are dangerous, they have "churches" in every city!!!) because I have already been accused of being "gullible, trusting, naive, easily led" etc. Which is strange since I did NOT join this cult, making these accusations kinda an oxymoron, but people are stupid and can't see what's right in front of them!

[@zkmarija]

If this guy was in America he would have been a high Priest with thousands of followers by now and probably with a few friends in the government

[@tapsars7911]

Very very true .

[@lulubells211]

#MAGA

[@jackpayne4658]

I have a morbid fascination with these cults. I've always rated Heaven's Gate as the ultimate, but this group comes close. Personally, I think that most of us have a cult leader, and follower, inside us. Hopefully, those inner possibilities will remain firmly in the background. The key seems to be involvement in the wider world - family, friends, work, education, social contact with a variety of people.

[@handicapitation3250]

Jim Jones was the ultimate cult leader. No other even comes close.

[@ryanvelez6367]

handicapitation what about scientology?

[@handicapitation3250]

+Ryan Yeah, it's definitely larger size, but the amount of control they have over their followers would be significantly less. For instance, lots of people have left Scientology, while the people who wanted to leave The Peoples Temple were murdered, while the other 500+ people voluntarily killed themselves. Not to mention, Jim Jones got nearly 1000 people to move to South America in the first place. So I guess it all boils down to how you're grading them.

[@anne-droid7739]

In biology, a parasite which does not kill its host is considered to be more successful than one which does. =D

[@NaturelDeese]

John Payne same!!!!! so fascinated by them. I wonder how many cults are going on now

[@coralrain6332]

Cults are dangerous. Any organization that secludes you and is punitive to you......LEAVE!

[@spacecase7566]

Cults rarely make you feel excluded since you are a part of a special group. You are also not being 'punished' but, corrected....

[@OfftoShambala]

They seclude the members from society on purpose, it's the one defining characteristic of a true cult vs a free religion. And they use the threat of exclusion or expulsion from the group as a way to compel cooperation OR they use other types of control measures to keep people from leaving. But, usually there is exclusion from contact with other members of the groups... children are often used as pawns... The Ammish do this very well. We are all susceptible to conforming for fear of being rejected and there is a need an purpose for this... however, cults exploit this natural sociologica/pshychological reality of the human condition.

[@PraiseTheFSMonster]

AKA all organized religions 😒

[@africanhistory]

Are they Unorganized religions? You should then list them. What is missing from the definition of a cult is ideological non-deviation. While Christian, Judaism and Islam even Vodon have many readings cults have ONE. No deviation allowed.

[@rafufaku6046]

You can’t just leave it’s not that easy

[@kevinoduor9841]

me: hi, im looking for a cult to join, whats the name of your cult? him: Jehovah Allah Christ Krishna ... me: ok, thanks. bye

[@emmastarr3755]

🤣🤣🤣

[@erikm8372]

12:34 …nice one, BBC, with the classy choice of soundtrack “He walked into my life and now he’s taken over, and it’s beautiful…”

[@judepower4425]

That cop is outrageous: there was no evidence at that stage that anything illegal was happening, nothing found and no-one charged, yet he thinks it was ok to use a "heavy hand" to close them down and have the building boarded up? WTF?

[@judepower4425]

@@welshie2007 I'm questioning the right of cops to take the law into their own hands, not the treatment the women were experiencing. Unless you want to live in a police state, there's no way that is ever "right", unless you mean to the far right of the political spectrum

[@randomaccount8185]

Being a communist is not a human right and all legal devices are rightly used in preventing them and their sympathizers from spreading their ideology or setting up little shrines.

[@judepower4425]

@@randomaccount8185 Surely holding whatever political views ones chooses is still a human right in the UK, or have you turned into a total police state? Ditto spreading one's views in the same way major political parties do?

[@joshuawoods7775]

He pushed them underground

[@ellenorbjornsdottir1166]

@@judepower4425 the UK is a parliamentary democratic dictatorship.

[@lucretialiciniagaiaerikaju3204]

I didn’t like the interviewer’s style here. She came off as quite patronising, repeating back what the women had said as though they hadn’t provided perfectly clear answers

[@lucig5900]

I agree. Like does she even realize what these women have been through?

[@_lithp]

She does it to give them an opportunity to extrapolate.

[@emmamlis927]

I think she was just mirroring to get the women to be comfortable enough to talk. This is very common is counseling (not therapy). Especially when people’s mental state is malleable, like after being in a traumatic cult and needing déconditioning from mind control. Just my thoughts

[@obscured9414]

Ok u snowflake. U obviously r not bright..

[@AdelWolf]

There's something about the tone that all the women interviewed used - this higher pitched hyper-feminine tone that is creepy as hell.

[@daytonasayswhat9333]

Adel Wolf Worst avatar ever.

[@ellenorbjornsdottir1166]

how is it creepy?

[@ComradeMassie]

Challenger happened because people were "challenging" him, and the clouds were shaped like a "Y" because people vere "vying" vit him. This dude just made shit up on the spot - he wasn't even trying :|

[@MohamedAli-kj5yy]

That was hilarious 😂 😂

[@Helloheyhigh]

Katies laugh was genuine she clearly has sense of mind and understands they irony of the situation she was born into. But embarrassment also I hope she wasn't scared of A.B.

[@justmadeit2]

Cults can be small with 20 members or big with 10 million members and more than one person running it. Remember no one who is in a cult will think they are actually in one even if they can see that other cults exist. To them they have the truth

[@kandie3127]

Well said.

[@jama4652]

I think that happened to me once

[@jama4652]

@Seosamh MacAoidh well see i was kicked out of my house when i was 14 by my mother she sent me to meet and live with my father in the middle of Puerto Rico against my will but anyways i get there and my aunt says in her house i have to go to church every sunday and i said fuck that i want to gang bang and smoke weed fuck dad how the fuck did he go from dead to being fully alive in a night is he Jesus said of coarse said no but again her house her rules so i go to this church its only 20 peoppe there 7 of them was my family and just felt awkwardly satanic singing the preacher telling us about his battle with opiods and i witness the exorcism of my cousin i still cant forget it that shit was 14 years ago and idk this post is old but fuck i think i was in a cult at one point cant wear jewlery no hiphop no drugs cant talk about things like happenings with church people women needed aproval to date just felt super forced and not for God at all like somehow free will became free slaves

[@jama4652]

@Seosamh MacAoidh just one year maybe year and a half i was fourteen but remember turning 15

[@daniellem8790]

I can fully understand a woman born into this mess, believing it. What I cannot understand is the grown women who chose to believe him at the start. It so incredibly sad how easily brain-washed they were!

[@em84c]

If you feel lost in life you are vulnerable to things like this.

[@CherieDeDieu]

I am so saddened that so many years of these women's lives were wasted in this strange cult; and shocked that " charges were dropped".....just how?! 😡

[@tapsars7911]

The dentist was too polite to use @#*&#@*" language . His expression ofcourse said a lot .

[@tinadavy3990]

Very kind and understanding ( but hiding that he's blown away by the hell she'd been through.

[@Exsugarbabe1]

These women could have got rescued so many times, this is a terrible story.

[@lindakihneman186]

Ruth Barr

[@daytonasayswhat9333]

Why didn’t they just leave? Why are women so subservient by nature?

[@ianreynolds8552]

Yes because the police did nt do there job properly

[@ianreynolds8552]

@@daytonasayswhat9333 because that man was voilent towards these woman , in reality a coward.

[@donnacaulfield9229]

De5054, this is a great page you have put together. It just popped up on my feed. I'm really learning alot from the videos you put up. Some I had already seen on other channels. Great work.

[@t_ylr]

Wow. They stole that lady's whole life.

[@toulousedelapoubelle5426]

"He said my brain needed to be washed." It appears he didn't have any problems doing that.

[@kikii7290]

welp my name is jackie gotta go lead a cult brb

[@jacqulynmiller7308]

Jackie Okapi me too haha

[@GTisJAVO1996]

they should have held the man guilty for all the atrocities he claimed to be responsible for, see if he continued to spout bullshit then...

[@rdgloveshouse]

I've rewatched this documentary a few times already .. cant believe it's not a movie yet

[@Frenchylikeshikes]

My coworker'is called Jackie. I need to tell her about this :')

[@d.dedrick7991]

God, I sincerely hope that SOMEBODY took mercy on that poor, pitiful moth/butterfly and eventually opened a window after filming it so it could, at least, have a chance to survive & be free. I do realize it was, however, a very good symbol/analogy for the imprisoned child & trapped, brainwashed women...🦋🍃

[@marilyncatalano6478]

I too felt sorry for the butterfly trapped and beating it's beautiful wings trying to get free.

[@matt4048]

This is why it's vital to clamp down on extreme ideologies. Even on the small scale, they hurt people.

[@brenttrippthomas6670]

My mind is so open my brains are definitely falling out

[@mariakelly5]

My brains have migrated to Norway!

[@Offmedication]

Yeah, but did they dismantle the "J.A.C.K.I.E." machine?

[@dwaynescrutchings7018]

It was invisible silly!

[@foxandbarrettshow6916]

You bought that there was a real machine,? Numpty

[@Seeker0fTruth]

FilmsFor SMARTpeople - Word on the street is that JACKIE lives on...she is everywhere and nowhere all at the same time!!! You already knew that though! Love the question. Some people are too dense to know sarcasm when it hits them square between the eyes! 😎

[@zosmanovic9763]

I heard Jackie is hot...or used to be

[@KDL861]

Kazza Namsoo hot wired.

[@Kurups101]

i can't even grasp what the hell is going on here

[@kittymove3847]

If Aisyah has ever come back to malaysia once she finished her studies, today she would become someone respected in the goverments. Sending your kids to study abroad especially Britian in the 70s means you're from wealthy and briliant background.

[@mohamedshamim9558]

u knw she wont come back. Her family will all shun her and she would probably be put into 'rehabilitasi aqidah' so tht she'll become muslim again. Surprising how she was so gullible and became a communist. But of course there were alot of malay communists during the 60s, ppl tend to forget that.

[@ALPHAROYCE]

Stockholm syndrome is so sad. protecting someone who abused you and caused you so much pain 😭