The Millionaire Preacher With A Weight Loss Cult | Gwen Shamblin Documentary

[@notthegoodgirl]

Quick correction: Natasha Pavlovich was crowned Miss Yugoslavia and Miss Beverly Hills, and was a finalist in the Miss California-USA pageant (I accidentally stated she won Miss California). Who should I cover next? Video chapters below. Happy New Year! ❄️ 0:00 Intro 1:36 The Weigh Up 10:03 The Prophet Profits 20:35 The Real Housewives of Remnant Fellowship 37:15 Tarzan & Trouble 52:02 Conclusion

[@spoiledartist9471]

Jim Jones or the Amway founders 🤓 The paparazzi stuff is still unfolding… I know you would do an amazing job covering it

[@omnibussy]

real housewife erika jayne and her husband stealing money from the families of hundreds of plane crash victims?

[@SMA1mommy]

Just stumbled apon your channel.... awesome work 👏

[@maria.x]

I'd be really curious to know all the intricacies of the Love Has Won cult !

[@ArtisticlyAlexis]

If you want a cult that no one has really looked into on KZbin, look at the Lev Tahor. They're an ultra-orthodox Jewish cult that has a history of child abuse, physical abuse, subjugation of women, & more. They were in Canada & got in trouble with the government, so they moved to Mexico to a compound.

[@stephanyneethling1714]

It was the HAIR for me! Her hair was like a visual of her ego. As she became more self absorbed and maniacal, her hair grew bigger and higher! Fascinating

[@pattyanne9982]

Same here! That f'ing do is a do not!!!ಠಿ_ಠಿ

[@Laura-jt4pg]

If you had to fight a Karen in a boss level she would be it.

[@anabella5764]

maybe she thought it would bring her closer to God? 🤦‍♀️

[@Anna-po1sb]

Reminds me of a cartoon parrot lol

[@jessicaabbott6674]

I think of Mean Girls “ her hair is so big because it’s full of secrets “

[@LordiAwa]

Have I ever heard of this woman? - No Will I watch a 1h long video about her downfall - Absolutly.

[@margaretjones1686]

😂😂😝😝😝😩😆🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@cynimonry5919]

Totally agree

[@elegantz1779]

Lol

[@guyaneselibra-princess9635]

Same

[@brendapellicci632]

Same here lmaooooo

[@colechristensen1909]

“In an ironic twist of fate, it was said that the plane went down because it was overweight in capacity.” This is the greatest documentary I have ever seen. Period.

[@SMtWalkerS]

Hilarious!

[@whoever6458]

It's such poetic justice! While these people may have been super skinny, they compensated by buying too much stuff and were just as attached to it as people are physically attached to their bodies, no matter what they weigh.

[@whoever6458]

@@darthbaesiannn Same.

[@simoncullum5019]

Her husband was probably the pilot of the plane

[@flamecharmerheat8879]

One..didn't expect the end....🎉🎉big hair,tons of gaudy make up...(the good old days)lol gr8 docy..😮Yoh what a scammer.got give her credit ..she know how to hustle...rip jane.

[@sunnyquinn3888]

Another thing about the over-the-top hair is that the hair being so big made her look skinnier in comparison. This is important for the leader of a weight loss cult.

[@happ-hobby]

Yup! That’s exactly what I thought.

[@-Unstable-Girl-Next-Door-]

Hmmm interesting…that makes perfect sense…her hair at its peak made her look so shriveled/sucked in

[@JimiJames-xq3kc]

Maybe the hair made the plane, just over the weight limit.

[@Jose-hs4vk]

The Con Woman was on her way to see a Con Man in Florida, that makes sense. I am sure her daughter learned all the ticks of the business as to how to be a Hypocrite.

[@Dizzy-ce6js]

Her daughter nevertheless with flat her looks even thinner. More like a ghost.

[@melissarebecca8]

"She regularly got her hair and makeup done for free by church members." I'm guessing those church members passively- aggressively hate her, LOL. 😂

[@sequoiany3078]

she looks like that psychic but I forgot that psychic's name. the psychic had a tv show a few years ago. I think she was italian/hispanic and mostly she could see ghosts in haunted places. it was a well known tv show.

[@maddieb.4282]

@@sequoiany3078 Long Island medium

[@anitabrewer7834]

Yes, there is malice lurking in that hair. Both in preparation and expression. And by the wearer too.

[@druid139]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Best comment ever Melissa.

[@nancyenkelmann7801]

@@sequoiany3078 Kim Russo, the medium.

[@queenbee9874]

This woman was dangerous. I thought about joining this nut clump once and my uncle who’s a preacher told me god didn’t care what size your body was he cared what size your heart was. Best advice I was ever given

[@whoever6458]

Sounds like your uncle is one of the few real deal Christians and I'm glad you are too. God doesn't care about people's money either. Why would he if the streets in heaven are really paved with gold?

[@MaryGershwin]

@@whoever6458 there are a lot of real deal Christians, we sadly get clumped together with all the bullshit homophobe idiots all the time. these days being a Christian is 80% distancing yourself from other so called "Christians"...

[@SMtWalkerS]

Nut clump! love it!

[@Hypnobunny1]

Exactly Very wise words 🙏

[@elilopez2517]

God doesn't care about your weight but I'm sure he doesn't want you to be unhealthy

[@kellysmith2273]

Ex-Mormon here. I cannot get enough of these "cult downfall stories". I've watched this one a half-dozen times, and I always make sure I have tons of snack food on hand. In fact, I just had a huge piece of chocolate cake! My only regret is that I couldn't share it with anyone of you wonderful folks, especially you, Miss Not-The-Good-Girl. You deserve a corner piece for all these amazing documentaries you've been producing! 🍰💗

[@caraislabonita5209]

Aww 🥰 bless your heart 💓 and I mean that in a good 😇 way, not the southern way 👿 I'm curious about why you like it so much...is it because you can relate to the flock, victimized and terrorized [IMO] by the mountain of hair ogress? 👹🤭

[@kellysmith2273]

@@caraislabonita5209 I think that's what it is. Having been born and raised in the Mormon "church", I can relate to the sheer hypocrisy, the favoritism, the insanity behind the curtain, the "never good enough" mentality, the "Do as I say and not as I do" nonsense... All of these so-called faiths pretty much follow the same template, and it makes the unveiling and downfall that much more delicious, pun intended here. 😊 Also, because I have a mean streak, I find myself smirking over the final act. It didn't seem that Gwen, her Boy Toy, and her child-beating minions benefitted from any "divine protection" on that plane ride. 😈

[@SN-qd9qw]

You know that’s a great idea. We should have KZbin downfall watch parties. Virtual or in person don’t matter. We donate to Ms. Good girls patreon if she has one and just have a gay Ol time.

[@giftedandblack494]

Don't forget the Catholics who are in the world's biggest cult with tons of made-up stuff not in the bible at all. You can always get large groups of people to "drink the Kool-Aid."

[@xanthestead4681]

@@kellysmith2273 I'm an exMo too and also found this podcast fascinating because of how crazily similar a lot of it is to Mormonism. Did the Joseph Smith name coincidence make you do a double take too? Is that name cursed??

[@janerogers2101]

After watching this I went and watched the HBO documentary. It was lame, drawn out, and full of fluff. This was sharp, to the point, and far superior, and it was free to watch! Well done.

[@sjm9876]

Oh good to know, I’ll be sure to skip it

[@BronzeDragon133]

The Lifetime movie was kind of fun.

[@Jose-hs4vk]

The Con Woman was on her way to see a Con Man in Florida, that makes sense. I am sure her daughter learned all the ticks of the business as to how to be a Hypocrite.

[@SandraJamerson-ue9xh]

Saw the movie...good. story is sad at the end.

[@mechengr1731]

the documentary on HBO really pissed me off. It made it seem like the daughter was on the plane, and I had to pause bc I was on the verge of tears. "No, this woman fought so hard for her daughter. Don't tell me that this evil woman got that little girl killed." But the daughter was just left at a friend's house bc of the court order about taking her on the plane.

[@shelbsss0]

Imagine being told to stay with a lying, cheating husband because "divorce is wrong" just for your "pastor" to then get divorced and remarried within 60 days because now "in some instances its okay". Absolutely not.

[@clarkporter1340]

If u change pastor in ur statement 2 prophet & say d story like it didnt happen 2 u, I would have thought u were describing Islam

[@sakuraesther6309]

@@clarkporter1340 Damn

[@melissaorellana6951]

Paula White ran off with her married pastor and bankrupted her first church🤷🏼‍♀️

[@nat3843]

Hypocrisy at it's best! So upset when I saw the foolishness. Smh

[@ericrivera8410]

Pretty much ike the Catholic church .anto gay but priests are pedophiles

[@evangelinehoke5512]

I love how her hair represents her descent into insanity

[@Plethorality]

with its own corresponding ascent.

[@BonnieHalfElven]

I thought of it more in a Biblical way: her hair was like Samson's. The more hair, the more power she had. It seems like she started off with good intentions, but she liked the attention and power, and it took over. Her good intentions were soon gone and it was all about her.

[@robgillan2493]

@@BonnieHalfElven Money, its the root of all evil. Once you hit a certain wealth level your mindset will change I guarantee it. A lot of the time they dont even realize what they are doing is wrong even if their past self would have known.

[@seivaDsugnA]

It's probably getting hard to find her in there by now.

[@joschi-grub5141]

@@robgillan2493 money is necessary,it´s fun and it means PEACE OF MIND! you can sleep spundly when you have all your bills payed! OF COURSE THESE PREACHER SCAMMERS NOW WHAT THEY are doing ! the only ones who don´t is their gullable public.

[@standoughope]

There's only one southern woman with big hair that's protected by God... I'm of course speaking of our national treasure Dolly Parton.

[@snooganslestat2030]

🤣

[@leener8587]

She sold her soul

[@AprilBytheBay]

And Tammy Faye Bakker, another light upon this earth

[@msmongooseable]

Aaa-men

[@saranewman9703]

@@leener8587 I heard that too is it true?

[@davidaschwanden2094]

Telling someone "It's not your place to decide what to pray for" has got to be a new record in the narcissism competition. Good grief.

[@TeddyBear-ht8dg]

A lot of Christian churches do that. Not only do that they teach that you be careful "who lays hands on you", meaning who you allow to pray for you because they might impart demons to you. I use to attend a cult church too. I'm so glad my eyes are open to the truth. I hope my grandkids never get caught up in this bullshit.

[@aquachonk]

Christianity has the ultimate Narcissists Handbook.

[@rachelcookie321]

I can’t get over how normal and pretty she looked at the start and how insane she looked by the end. She obviously knew how to do good hair and makeup evident by the videos of when she was younger, how did she end up with that mess? Looks like she let a 5 year old child do it.

[@blondbraid7986]

Well, she did start to let her cult members do her hair and makeup for her, and I guessed it turned into an emperor's new clothes situation, where no one dared say she looked like a yard sale Barbie doll towards the end.

[@AJDaniels5298]

I had an instructor in cosmetology school who wouldn't actually tell us to be quiet; she'd just start fluffing her hair and it'd get bigger and bigger until somebody noticed and told everyone else to shut up. This woman looks like no one's been listening for an hour.

[@tiannacarson3076]

More like a giant birds nest sitting on top of it hatching eggs under that side bang 😂

[@minimini550]

@@AJDaniels5298you do not understand how much I love that visual! What a funny idea

[@anastaziak6621]

Trust me a 5 Year Old wouldn't even do that!! Children have way MORE sense!!!

[@sasamafrass]

My favorite part is when Gwen pretends to be surprised by the engagement like she didn't just plan this whole production 🤣🤣🤣

[@notthegoodgirl]

And purchase the ring! 🤣 I have zero proof of that, but her rock was *huge* and didn't seem like something Joe would or could buy, especially since at that time he and his mother still lived in the house Natasha bought. 🤦🏾‍♀️ Scandalous.

[@sasamafrass]

@@notthegoodgirl "I am so surprised. I am shocked and amazed." 💀

[@CheerfulChelsea_]

She even acted surprised by the fireworks lmao

[@sasamafrass]

@@CheerfulChelsea_ 🤣🤣🤣

[@tamarascottonline7277]

I was thinking the same thing. So fake. This is really a sad story.

[@redfox83bc31]

That one interview is an unsung hero. Her repeatedly lying and then going "well actually here's the transcript of a phone call where you said to do exactly that" was Chris Hansen To Catch a Predator level greatness. Also as an ex Jehovahs Witness I couldn't help throw my hands up a few times. The parallels are ungodly.

[@NotoriousEmu]

100 percent. My uncle is an elder and he worked hard to recruit me. I see so many similarities here and none of them are good. Im so glad you were able to get out!

[@redfox83bc31]

@@NotoriousEmu Only took me getting Disfellowshipped during covid and a year or so to wake up to do it. A painful journey of which I blame fully on them

[@patriciamay6396]

I knew Chris Hansen. A great reporter, sad how his career ended like it did

[@Sir_Catnip]

​@@patriciamay6396 Chris Handsome *

[@GeorgiaGeorgette]

@@redfox83bc31 I am so sorry that you were put through that abuse. I hope you have a good support network around you now and are living the happy life you deserve.

[@cassier8414]

My mom was given a Weigh Down membership as a gift sometime in the late 90's early 2000s. She didn't take it too seriously, but remembered the basics. When the documentary came out, she was in total shock about all the shit that was going on. We watched it a few days later and called her to talk about it, because she loves true crime and crazy stuff like this. That's when we found out she was in the program. She didn't know about the child abuse and said she was glad she never bought into it fully. She said at one point 'I like to eat, im a fat girl, praying wasn't going to make me not want ice cream.'

[@sherrie5468]

Can't believe I've never heard of her till now. Fascinating story.

[@cherylbarker6256]

Same here

[@chardaystyles393]

Same ☺

[@EnesKitchene]

Me too

[@petrinamayanwilliams5244]

Same

[@user-hq9wh9hq7n]

Me too.

[@j.e9971]

I was a member of this cult for over 11 years. This is an extremely well done documentary. Excellent work!

[@velvetbees]

Was the tone of her voice like being hypnotized? As in, did it make people surrender their natural instincts to what she said? I have noticed manipulative people use a kind of voice innotation that makes people throw away their own best judgement.

[@j.e9971]

@@velvetbees very much so. Her voice had several ranges, tones and modes to convey what she needed / wanted out of someone or something. She could’ve easily taught a master class in verbal and emotional manipulation.

[@Jocelyn_Jade]

@@theworldisastage5400 Stop with the transphobia of trying to equate transgender people with evil people.

[@jameseverett4976]

The video never said WHY she divorced her 1st husband, which I thought was strange. Do you know why?

[@jameseverett4976]

@@theworldisastage5400 that was one thing that kept bothering me through the whole video. There was something odd about her figure, and the way her clothes fit [or didn't]. The other thing that was hard to believe sometimes was the horrible makeup job - never mind the hair. How does she look in the mirror with that tragic mess, and go "yup, I'm ready to go public now."?

[@justachonkyspider]

"Gwen saw Joe and Joe wondered how much cash was hiding under that hair" .....ok that's comedy gold right there 🤣

[@kevinmalone3210]

😆 🤣 😂

[@MirandaDanda1983]

💯😂😂

[@canteskuyapete1459]

Lol the fact that he left his wife for her, in his case. Money did buy his love lol 😂😂🤣🤣🤣

[@colinschafer5453]

That made me lol as well 😂

[@justachonkyspider]

@@colinschafer5453 that's because it was hilarious

[@elenahingle699]

Gwen said as she spoke about greed in the end, “ God will not be mocked!”So true!

[@dantherevelator]

i can't believe i watched this for free, it almost feels criminal. this is the first video on your channel that i've seen so far and i subscribed within the first 15 minutes haha; this is so well put together! thank you for sharing your research with us in such a cool way

[@brittanysky9133]

My 1st too and I totally agree some of these KZbinr’s are way to good and need more recognition there’s a lot of shows on tv/mainstream that suck and stuff like this should take there place

[@Valentina-Steinway]

Me too !!!

[@TheCalico72]

Same here!!

[@georgenelson3719]

indeed. Corporate media spends millions to produce docs that aren't this good.

[@TheCalico72]

@@BestIsntEasy Finally!! Someone quoting scripture that actually has something to do with the video. Well done.

[@vickielopez8685]

Just wanted to give some credit to Josie (the creator of this documentary) Josie, you outdid yourself. This was incredibly well done! You clearly took your time and put in plenty of effort! Don’t be surprised when Netflix comes knocking on your door! Keep up the hard work, it does not go unnoticed!

[@notthegoodgirl]

@Vickie Lopez thank you so much for the kind words. I'm trying to up my editing skills, lol. Thanks for the support! 💜

[@mme1997]

Agreed! Josie you are doing fantastic work

[@velvettears7759]

@@notthegoodgirl I totally agree. Very well done.

[@luxonlex4453]

@@notthegoodgirl , as a former broadcast Radio and Television producer and editor, you have done an extraordinary job. Non-linear editing is a cross between tech know-how and artistic interpretation of your story or message. I started off on Beta Max III, S-VHS and DV-CAM, with jog /shuttle wheels and start-stop-record for a final cut. The transition to Adobe NLE and Final Cut Pro with the incorporation of moving graphics and plug-in was nerve racking. Basically, the struggle was real. Your final product is broadcast ready. As another commenter stated: "Dont be surprised if Netflix or Hulu comes knocking. Well done!

[@luxonlex4453]

@@notthegoodgirl , Sorry, Post Script: Subscribed!!! 👍🏾

[@Naijacatt]

You can tell she got her hair done for free. They must of hated her lmao.

[@pvanpelt1]

She took “the higher the hair, the closer to God” seriously, lol.

[@dnd1007]

@@pvanpelt1 @Naija Cat Absolute TRUTHS. LOL

[@fbiagentfrank]

I think she has to do that because it's so thin and unhealthy from lack of proper nutrition.

[@luciac9123]

I think you're right. I would have worn that rat's nest in a pony tail. What a mess; just like the rest of her life!

[@codybarry8204]

@@fbiagentfrank the Amy Winehouse situation.....but similar.

[@genevarh]

Off topic but this is an excellently made documentary. I've already watched this like 2-3 times and it never stops being interesting.

[@iamalphalim]

This channel is a great reminder to be wary of influential leaders and to think for yourself!

[@susansho]

The one about Guru Jagat is really good too.

[@janetDT1904]

I'm a Pentecostal Christian who struggles with severe depression and anxiety AND I DEFINITELY TAKE MY MEDICATIONS. So scary for me to see people encouraged not to take their medications. I can't even talk about the little ones who suffered and even died from the treatment these Church leaders encouraged. Heartbreaking.

[@carolsummers8734]

When medication helped my wide range of anxiety disorders from agoraphobia to claustrophobia with panic attacks and depression and I was recovering, my husband began demanding I quit the therapy and medications. He wanted control over me that my recovery had lost him.

[@oksanasulimova9892]

God bless you Janet.

[@oksanasulimova9892]

​@@carolsummers8734 That's interesting🤔. And that can really be a reason.

[@rodiebakpa9368]

U need a therapist for real!!

[@lucyalicenox5871]

Even if the members were secretly taking their medications, that was probably dangerous in and of itself because she was forcing them to fast all the time. As someone with mental health struggles I can definitely say that taking those medications and not eating is not good for you and can make you feel so much worse

[@allywallyeffect]

this is easily the most outlandish and unbelievable story ive ever heard. the scandal, irony, the deaths, THE HAIR it’s like a real life willy wonka

[@Michelemybelle1986]

Leave willie wonka out of this 🤣

[@natalyrose1]

🤭😂😂

[@patriciahayes2664]

That was clearly a wig or hair extensions. 😉

[@jenniferbrowne8645]

Right now she in that place where she choose to be...I wonder how people cld follow these cult blindly. God left the word of God for us...read it and asked him for understanding. She robbed the poor killed and murdered now look at what happened to her...what u sow u shall surely reaped

[@kyleshiflet9952]

Reminds me of Tammy Fae Baker

[@gemportion5543]

"Gwen saw Joe, and Joe wondered how much cash was hiding under all that hair"😂😭

[@kl9045]

Lol 😂😂😂😂

[@richardcranium3579]

All of it

[@melodicseaweed387]

And he s as high as a kite

[@UNFFILMStv]

youtube.com/@UNFFILMStvyoutube.com/@UNFFILMStvkzbin.infoJULL8jFKoPc?feature=share

[@TheSweetTubFactory]

I wonder if it was a "transactional marriage" He fitted the image she wanted to portray over her 1st husband. In return she gave him the wealth and lifestyle he craved.

[@Ngisa]

The music when Tarzan popped up in the story! 😂💯 The chapter headings 😂💯! This doccie is so well put together

[@mollagwenchana6372]

My heart breaks for the little Smith boy who died in the hands of his parents. I can’t imagine the many times he was physically and verbally abused by the people he thought was supposed to love and protect him. Until that moment where his body cannot take it anymore. I couldn’t imagine his cries and pleading for mercy. I can’t. My heart is breaking knowing that he was not the only one being abused because of the horrible teaching of that “church”. Terrible people!

[@theyliveyousleep8965]

The world is full of abused children....abused by adults who blame others for their actions. The smiths were murderers regardless of who told them it was ok to be so.

[@carolinebcollier]

So heartbreaking. I hope she’s burning in hell.

[@allysondebb7164]

I love my baby boys too much to do such horrible things to them on the name of discipline 🫢🫢🫢🫢🫢

[@alostbard]

When you see street gang thugs performing criminal acts, and wonder 'where are the parents?!', remember this. Sometimes the kid really is better off on the streets than with the parents.

[@Hypnobunny1]

Ditto those 2 were monsters That poor child 💔💔😭

[@karindennis3753]

I was in the Remnant Fellowship for a short period. My aunt was full on in the church, got married to a guy in church, was abused by him, had an eating disorder and had to work through a lot of trauma from being in the church for years. I went to Gwen’s house in Tennessee for Passover in the early 2000’s and I will say, it was definitely creepy and misogynistic the way they treated women in the church. I left the church shortly after that.

[@mitzabiciclista1]

Just out of curiosity, I am asking this: how could she convince your aunt about a logical connection between weight and Christianity? I come from a country where cults are very rare and I really can't understand why people see a skinny lady and believe she is a profet. I mean no judgement or anything, I just can't understand. Thank you for sharing your insights into this crazy subject.

[@momof4524]

I think love bombing and trickery. Getting you to believe you are trapped afterwards.Just like an abusive relationship.

[@bisexualfrenchfry1953]

@@mitzabiciclista1 Just like every other cult. It dosnt have to make sense. They manipulate you, love bomb you, make you feel awful if you leave or are not as active. They prey on very specific people. People who don’t have a faimly/friends, who may be going through a hard time or just got done with one, people that are missing something in there lives, they make you believe that there way is the only right way. They are really sick people who are brain washed to brain wash others. It’s like a never ending cycle. There are some religious cults that actually make you go to training for months before you can start recruiting other members, but they will refer to us as “saving/teaching” others. Usually the beliefs don’t start off as extreme but they slowly become more and more.

[@mitzabiciclista1]

@@bisexualfrenchfry1953 thank you for explaining it to me. I think I get it. They hunt the emotionally vulnerable, right?

[@calcifiedweatherfrog4945]

Was her hair really as big as it looks?

[@summer-diane1999]

i feel like i live under a rock because i can't believe i have never heard of gwen/this story before. this documentary is honestly award-worthy; thank you so much for taking the time and energy to make this.

[@mitchb2305]

Same, never heard of her, and I watch a lot of scam videos & podcasts. Gwen is like a more twisted version of Tammy Fae Bakker.

[@lukestrawwalker]

@@mitchb2305Jan Crouch....

[@laraamaro8908]

Oh dear lord, the engagement video....i just can't 😂😂😂😂

[@muppmu9980]

😂😂

[@helgashouseofpain]

super creepy.

[@lauragandolfo9521]

As a Registered Dietitian and a Christian, this makes me sick to my stomach. Thank you for sharing! I do remember hearing about this program growing up but I had NO IDEA.

[@roseoftheenglish9127]

@@theworldisastage5400 what?

[@ruthmorr9501]

Hummmm not to follow her philosophy

[@ruthmorr9501]

They Want money

[@johayes7529]

I think the world dodged a bullet with this crazy bulimic walking skeleton.

[@johayes7529]

@@theworldisastage5400 😂😂😂 but it’s definitely NOT Optimus Prime!🤟

[@zarasbazaar]

Exchanging one addiction for another. Horrifying. She claimed these women were a slave to the refrigerator and she made them slaves to the obsession with being thin.

[@efolinsky]

Welcome to the premise of 12 step.... Yup I said it

[@vissitorsteve]

She only made them slaves to herself. The refrigerator was just a prop.

[@gnash64]

@@vissitorsteve Nailed it.

[@floatingbacon3909]

@@efolinsky thank you, I have been saying this forever pissing people off

[@MsLiberty101]

@@efolinsky Are you referring to the AA program?

[@Ponken123]

She's like a real-life South Park character.

[@melissamoonchild9216]

lol accurate

[@Anabee3]

😅😅😅 She IZZZ...so true.

[@JNorth-rf3ui]

You are an amazing storyteller. Thanks for sharing these stories. Awesome team too.❤

[@RumbleRish]

*The biggest surprise to me* is the fact that the lady actually divorced her husband as opposed to him suddenly “disappearing/dying” under mysterious circumstances. Shocked she was willing to endure the shame & embarrassment!

[@oldstudbuck3583]

Good observation

[@sweethitchhiker1]

…but I don’t think she felt any shame or embarrassment. I think she was a sociopath who believed SHE WAS GOD! God wasn’t humored by her it appears

[@potato5602]

There was a case in Kenya (2007/2008-ish), where Televangelist Bishop Margaret Wanjiru's estranged cobbler husband "died" after he opposed her trying to marry her Reverend South African fiancé. Her & her 1rst husband got married through their tribes customary law, someone else also appeared and said that he was actually her legal husband. An excerpt from an article : " Bishop Wanjiru dismissed Mr Kamangu, saying she had no liaison with the man she described as a jigger-infested. She went on to state that she would not entertain nonsense from the man, saying she would wring his neck and follow it with burial sermon should he continue with his claims." Her friends & supporters even protested outside the courthouse, while her two sons kept distance from their alleged father in front of the court. After his "death," she got married and in her words; " got to wear the longest train in Kenya". She's also a politician.

[@judycrisenbery2982]

WOW!!!! These so-called religious leaders will twist God's Word to meet THEIR desires!!!!

[@lindamorgan2678]

Narcissists do not feel shame or embarrassment

[@felicia7756]

To encourage parents to abuse their children is just plain evil

[@psalmreader8049]

That couple shouldn’t still be in prison. They killed their son but not in a premeditated way. I know Gwen said ok death is no big deal but still, I think if anything it was insanity that drove them to abuse that boy to death. 10 years should have been the sentence

[@lyndza1989]

ah no@@psalmreader8049

[@Charley.Farley]

@@psalmreader8049bullshit. They’re exactly where they belong. They were consistently abusing and torturing those children, how is that not premeditated? Those children didn’t get a chance at life, so neither should they.

[@jovitavillalpando9127]

You are a liar she did not encourage abuse! The Bible said “spare the rod and spoil the child”

[@felicia7756]

@@jovitavillalpando9127 that witch is lying to you n many more who will follow her cult, these Bibles were created by many men who worshiped at their convenience. We are supposed to teach the young when they make mistakes, they watch us and believe me they hold the love, parties, Dad tossing the ball ,those memories help them fall to sleep at night but the there's that rod you mentioned that parents should beat their children with, children can't understand because they have alot of learning to accomplish, so maybe ur in a cult where u can't think for yourself but remember, there are many religions,I have allways believed that evil spirits can be in a church crowd just to confuse them, beat the demo s with that rod, not the children n babies

[@thatbapa]

I feel guilty watching this quality documentary for free. Incredible research and such a pleasant voice to listen to!

[@surfgal77]

Yeah! Me too!!! So well done.👍🏻 Cheers from Berlin, Germany

[@rebeccataiaroa4197]

I feel guilty too - you have a great talent there @notthegoodgirl I hope to see you grace the Documentary Filmmaker Stage....just not in a Culty way!!

[@jaiyeolaolaribigbe6518]

SHARING the video gives more room for higher payment by the Tube to the channel. Hope you share the vid to support financially.

[@Amy-ej2px]

@@larosey811 "send her a cashapp or zelle " I knew that this was coming.

[@larosey811]

@@Amy-ej2px wth are you talking about...??!?!? it was a joke! Idk this person who posted this video, I just happen to run into this message and simply told the person that if they felt soo guilty watching this for free... to send her some money!!

[@kcharles8857]

Clicked on this by accident. Ended up watching the whole damn thing. Excellent.

[@NobodiesBusinessimo]

Any infidelity in the story? Not sure I'm gonna invest in the whole thing yet

[@lisamartin3734]

The before and after of this woman is drastic. The hair and makeup definitely shows her descent into insanity. I never heard of her until she passed.

[@mitchb2305]

Agreed. She actually started off kind of normal, a great success story, honestly. But then as she starts getting more power-hungry, so does her hair!

[@GazzaTF]

You can tell that she was in heavy denial about growing older. I bet her marriage to Joe and their extravagant wedding was partly an attempt to feel young and pretty again.

[@delilahrainelle7158]

The fact that she claimed she was a profound Christian and was so obsessed with her looks is such a red flag. The Lord accepts you no matter what you look like and if you based your degree of faith on your degree of looks, she absolutely wasn’t doing God’s work. She was a narcissist concerned only about her looks. How ironic, because she was not a good looking woman. She was horrendous.

[@pippadawg7037]

@@delilahrainelle7158 Her appearance is a red flag? There were more red flags around her than at the 2022 Beijing Olympic Opening Ceremony. Her name was SHAM-blin. If it were fiction the editor would say it is too much. Her ugliness on the inside seeped out- it always does. As did Lara's ugliness. He looked positively maniacal and creepy with those botox dead eyes and toothy grin. Men his age can still be sexy (only 58) and was drop dead gorgeous in his youth. But at 58 the ugly seeped out, and he was as sexy as a smiling corpse. Thank God they didn't steal that sweet little girl from her beautiful mother.

[@psalmreader8049]

Her book and the church meetings for the program really did help a lot of people with weight loss through faith. My sister is one of them .

[@javiermedina6144]

Well done! I'm a Christian, and I love seeing these "Christians" being exposed. My God does not like manipulation or abuse. Whenever you see communities acting this way claiming they are Christian, it just isn't so. People will always use the name of a higher power to try and wield power over you, but in the end, they get what they deserve. Greed is truly hideous.

[@mamamarianovits9029]

Wise as serpents, gentle as doves, this is how we are called to be. For this reason, I am in agreement with you, calling out the falsity within any institution, government, agency and, sadly so, even the churches... and there be many yet to be called out.!! WE are the church, the body, not some building decked out in expensive furnishings and lined with pricey carpets ... the same types of buildings that our Savior would likely have been barred from even entering, for the blood and dirt on HIS feet might stain the carpets.!! Our Savior, our Lord Jesus Christ, he spent his time with "the least of these"(as the world sees them), not at all spending that time accumulating wealth, treasures or properties. He perused people, not things. The best thing today's Christian could do is to leave the church they attend... come out of her my people.!! Lord have mercy, we have such great need of it. We are each of us fallen, each of us flawed, each of broken and in need of saving. Thankfully, we were blessed with the perfect Savior, our Lord of lords and King of kings, Jesus of Nazareth, Yeshua Hamashiach. 💗

[@MiaMia-rx9dw]

Satan is most happy when people hide behind God to do his bidding. Terrible!!!

[@laughinghawk8522]

Almost every "evangelical" leader is leading a whole lot of people straight to hell.

[@Laura-sg6ss]

@@MiaMia-rx9dw indeed

[@petite2276]

Yeah I agree with you in this. I pray that I become a good witness for people

[@raed8905]

Omg I went to her cult for a project in college. They called and messaged me for MONTHS despite me being very honest about why I was there. It was a two and a half hour Saturday service with almost two HOURS of testimony about how her book changed their life. And at one point she banned ALL her followers from listening to any music not written and produced by her son! I grew up at the mega church around the corner and it was wild how no one knew about her

[@kevinmalone3210]

If that isn't a cult, I don't know what is.

[@msfoster2468]

Glad you survived.

[@MSgt5J071]

Word on the street is her son has cut all ties with Remnant.

[@judycrisenbery2982]

I heard that, too

[@bigbootyboy420]

Mega churches are also cults tho

[@sarademoor]

I revisit this documentary every now and then, because it's just that good. I had no idea who Gwen Shamblin was, but was taken on a tour that had me literally gasping. Bravo, fantastic work! Edit: Here's to me writing the almost exact same comment about a year ago xD

[@Kendrasoreal]

Me currently! The video was put together so well!

[@milkinamug3357]

The escalation of the hair, make up and giant heels was just as wild as the story.

[@thechick1876]

😂

[@ethelmanyaka9623]

😂😂😂

[@kestrelhawkins6078]

My mother was convinced she really knew her stuff. She got me to do it which resulted in an eating disorder that almost killed me dead. It took me 12 years to recover from it.

[@macystoca267]

😭💔🥺 I'm sorry for the truama that she helped cause you. I'm glad you're doing better. Wishing you the best 🤗❤️

[@itissomethingnow]

OMG I'm so sorry you went through that. Having an eating disorder is hard enough, having it encouraged and introduced by a parent must have made it so much harder to process. From one ED survivor to another, I'm so proud of you for working towards recovery!!

[@jmichelle8192]

I pray you find true healing from the trauma you experienced.

[@sl4983]

What about it almost killed you?

[@HelloKitty-pe4ho]

She's a horrible parent. Sorry to hear that, thankfully you beat it.

[@Problembeing]

Just an addition, when Natasha Pavlovich learnt of the plane crash, she called 911 to find out if her daughter was on the plane, to which she could not get an answer. She had emailed Lara I upon learning he had plans to take their daughter on the plane and she forbade him from doing so. According to news reports Lara had left their daughter with his mother and she was found in her care at a local MacDonald’s safe and sound.

[@chadmorrison3662]

Thank God, that was the first thing I wondered about. Thank you.

[@XxHarmony63Xx]

Thank goodness

[@JCC_1975]

Thank God. I was wondering if she was on the plane too.

[@JMJ4444-f2n]

Praise be God! Hie heard her prayers for her daughter’s safety and life fur filled yet on this earth! JMJ Amen 🙏 ✝️❤️

[@elphie2390]

Wow if I didn’t believe in a god before I sure do now. The whole situation was hard karma for the evil doers

[@arcomn]

To quote from Mark Twain……” I wish death on no man. I have, however, read several obituaries with great personal satisfaction."

[@OldNurseBossyMeemaw]

I remember taking this class at a church and just being, struck after about four lessons, with the realization that this lady was a false profit and frankly dangerous. I am a nurse and was alarmed she was telling people to stop their medicine. I never went back to the class and now I know I was right

[@elitereptilian200]

Think you meant so that she's a false prophet but since virtually every single one of these kind of televangelist/megachurch cult leaders are faking their beliefs in order to profit from the weak the false profit you said kinda fits..

[@paulaflatt2936]

I too had a similar experience with this workshop. When I asked the women who lead the meetings who did single women submit to other than God they said the elder men of the church. We got up and left. I went home and researched the church Remnant Fellowship and a warning came up immediately about this being a cult. I’m glad my sister and I had enough sense to dodge that bullet. Lol

[@Lez_awake]

Yep. I remember being horrified when she wanted me to stop taking my antidepressant. And I became hypoglycemic from using her program.

[@linanicolia1363]

prophet. She created profit for herself ! English, my dear......did you miss out of these classes ? nurses know basic english.

[@halimak625]

@@linanicolia1363 agree, a nurse that can't spell basic words... red 🚩

[@tiarahines6084]

What's really tickling me is how she's denying everything in the interview and they're STEADY pulling out receipts LMAOOOOO

[@KimontheWeb]

🤣🤣🤣 right! And she’s like No! No! Tampering 🤣

[@CoachVeeMP]

Delusion at its finest! 🤣

[@kayamen2021]

The devil is a master deceiver these black folks mixed in with this foolishness 😒 were the first to get locked up? Noticed the black lady who listened to her to lock her son up in the closet for days they had her mug shot picture followed by the narrator said miss big hair and her ministry never received 🙄 charges

[@ChantingInTheDark]

And her go to is to outright lie about the evidence.

[@zldq.s]

I swear, it gives second hand embarrassment 😂😂😂

[@renurose]

"In an ironic twist of fate, it was reported that the plane went down because it was overweight and at capacity." I shouldn't laugh, buuuut....☺️ Lines like these are pure Gold! You have done a fantastic job with this video. Looking forward to more documentaries on cults and exposing such horrible people. You really do these superbly!

[@notthegoodgirl]

@renurose Thank you for watching! 🛩️

[@maryeckel9682]

Can't make up stuff like that!

[@Rainia29]

You know egos can be very heavy

[@renurose]

@@Rainia29 very true 😁

[@bbe3034]

Check out Probable Cause- Dan Gryder KZbin channel. He lives in Tennessee and made several videos about the church and the plane crash. She lied to the congregation, imagine that.😂

[@JasonFlorida]

I just can't stop watching your brilliantly edited and well put together documentaries! You are extremely talented! Thank you for sharing these!!!

[@MelissaKelleyHaircuts]

As a Christian I just want to thank you for exposing this charlatan.

[@AsifKhan-hf9zy]

or in other words, exposing the whole religion of christianity as a charlatan.

[@dannygillmusic]

​@@AsifKhan-hf9zybitter becky😂

[@user-me4pg4du4s]

@@AsifKhan-hf9zyactually no. . What this woman taught was not what the Bible teaches at all… if she was teaching the complete opposite how is that the whole religion? Thats just ignorant to say, I understand why someone who hasn’t taken doctrine or theology classes to really understand the Bible would possibly think that? But let’s use common sense to know that actual Christian’s disagree with this type of person and actually further proves that God (YHWH) will not stand to have His word twisted. So in the most respectful way, you’re incorrect. 💓

[@darrenrichards3100]

​@@user-me4pg4du4s thank you 🙏🏿 because one person does something they wanna blame everyone without reading or doing their research.

[@melissamoonchild9216]

​@darrenrichards3100 but it isn't ONE person is it; it's systemic

[@lyrafaeren]

EDIT: This happened back in the late 1990s, so I'm all good now! Thank you everyone for the kind words! I was in high school when the church my family attended offered Gwen's weight loss course. Every week a small group of women with their daughters, including my mom and myself, met at some one's house to watch her videos, fill out the provided journal, and confess to one another all of our shortcomings as to why we were fat. I remember every week my shame, my hatred towards myself, my absolute disgust for my body grew stronger. I finished that course not feeling inspired, but feeling absolutely hopeless that I would ever measure up to other people's expectations. I had completely forgotten about it until this video showed up in my recommendations. And I'm so glad it did. Thank you for providing a bit of closure to that dark time in my life.

[@MiSah_dePan]

I get you. Even though I'm still not content with my body, I understand that it's MINE, and I must care for it and myself

[@littleflower3665]

You are and always have been beautiful.

[@spinrash6000]

Honestly most cult always have a dangerous diet and prays

[@sharyldutter9694]

Dear Lyra, I'm so glad that you're a winner over this trash! It breaks my heart that trash like this rides on the Jesus - Card to play the blame and shame game on innocent people. No two people are the same, there is too much involved to loose weight and do it successfully. Rest assured, there is a special place in Hell for this trash. Stay strong, my Friend.

[@beckyg8028]

I did the program over 20 years ago. I agree with you!!

[@BlanceDevereaux]

I am loving your documentaries. No unnecessary drama or theatrics - just facts stated in such an interesting manner. You are covering so many important cases (and charlatans) that some know all about, but others don't (including me). It's like attending a really good sociology/criminology/anthropology class in college! Thank you!

[@notthegoodgirl]

@BlancheDevereaux that means a lot, thank you! 💛

[@joannapowellchestnut6679]

Agreed 👍🏽

[@barrett7893]

BlancheDevereaux I’m loving your name!! 💯

[@BlanceDevereaux]

@@barrett7893 Thank you! Major GG fan here!

[@DameDarcy999]

❤️

[@malenam.2384]

I just found these series and I am absolutely hooked. True talent for story telling, so thanks so much!

[@kristimiera1070]

The hair and the shoes were huge! She got more dead looking as the years went on as she got more evil. She looked like an anorexia victim with the big hair and the big shoes and the dress that looks like it's wearing her! Amazing! I tried to do that weigh down diet years and years ago probably around 1996. I tried so hard and felt so guilty the book made you feel like if you couldn't lose weight that way you were shameful. I prayed and prayed and prayed that I would have the strength to do what she said I could do, but the Lord was gracious to me, he told me in my heart that my worth was not judged by her and her diet. I really admired her, I never heard this stuff until now. I can't believe what she ended up looking like at the end it was just awful like she was a mannequin. The corruption just really showed on her.

[@mariannemarek6683]

The wages of sin are always Death to the body as well as the soul.

[@patriciacook3981]

She looks like a demon inside a person and the person meat suit is melting away!!!

[@mariannemarek6683]

I am a Dietituan/Nutritionist and I too wondered about her. Initially I looked @ her program but last year bought her book @ the library sale. As she progressed she became her own God and strayed from the TRUTH. Many cults start this way. The love of the WORLD (pride and $$$) makes it easy to make yourself a God.

[@rosesweetcharlotte]

This is unfair to anorexics. This woman and her daughter look like zombies.

[@AudsLecker]

I've noticed that a lot of these grifters and cult leaders have something really Off about their look. Like it takes somebody who's really delusional to decide that's their Thing and go with it. Gwen's hair, Trump's hair, Teal Swan's eyebrows...

[@333SarahBeth]

"He wondered how much cash she was hiding under all that hair" sent me into a giggle fit! All your content is great, and your full length docs, like this, really shine. These people do real harm, and I appreciate you not losing the nuisance of the victims in raising awareness, if that makes sense. Edit to add: R.I.P. to Zeus, and sorry for your loss

[@BeccaBoo]

Judging by the uneven back combing I would say she did it herself & likely wouldn't allow anyone to do it for her. I can just see her having her hair done and redoing it herself 🤣. Her hair is part of her icon, the bigger the hair the skinnier she looks.

[@mimikaps7358]

Lol 😂

[@charmagneq]

Me too!

[@luckyneko1]

It amazes me how people get sucked into cults. If a church is ruling how you look, who you associate with, in the middle of your marriage, etc you need to run!

[@chgofirefighter]

And religions aren’t cults?

[@luckyneko1]

@@chgofirefighter I'm a member of a religious denomination. They do not tell me what I can and cannot do, who I can and cannot associate with. They don't force me to give them money. . They try to provide guidance but it's up to us if we choose to follow it. And you can leave at any time. Many cults do not make it easy to leave. And yes, some religious organizations are cuts. People need to avoid them at all costs.

[@mariahtoennies1653]

some people grow up in it…

[@ifartoncats5091]

don’t most of not all religions do this? lol correct me if i’m wrong i’m not very religious myself

[@margolane8529]

It's the same as how people get stuck in abusive relationships. Cults use the same exact tactics. I certainly don't victim blame people who have experienced domestic violence, and I think it's wrong to victim blame people who get trapped in cults too.

[@TedsHoldOver]

She looks like a real-life version of how toddlers draw people.

[@justinefloria9760]

Gwen was correct in one thing, 'God will not be mocked'. :) The plane going down as 'overweight' speaks volumes! Thank you for doing this documentary.

[@sweetest-of-memes]

Moral of the story: people with hair like hers should be put on an FBI watchlist immediately

[@isabeljohannes9328]

🤣😂🤣

[@prettykitty5416]

Stop 💀💀💀🤣🤣🤣

[@staciehenderson6982]

I never thought I'd see someone with that much hair.. rock a comb over. It's very confusing. It's like she parts her hair at her ear. 😕

[@Sarah-qy4we]

Yooooo nice profile pic

[@harperwebster5913]

Remember Tammy Fae Baker,Her makeup and hair was frightful too

[@mistyrost8010]

I attended a wedding that she officiated.. definitely a cult. I met her and she immediately gave me one of her books and started talking about ne losing weight. She had crazy eyes and didn't blink while talking at me.. not to me..at me

[@billgates3137]

You should have listened to her advice on weight loss

[@katywonder4802]

@@billgates3137 disgusting.

[@Plethorality]

@@billgates3137 why?

[@mysticfawn6812]

My friend goes to this church

[@Plethorality]

@@mysticfawn6812 its funny how greed for food was a sin, bit greed for other people's money and autonomy was not. i hope your friend gets free.

[@munishchopra-evans4419]

This documentary is making me hungry!

[@katiebee8699]

This video is obviously VERY well researched. You presented this complicated woman quite transparently and I appreciate that. And this was edited so perfectly that when it ended, I started it over from the beginning and watched it again. If there’s higher praise than that, I don’t know what it is. 😊

[@brendacharleston4593]

Locking a child up in a room for three days is torture.

[@lady.leo12]

Many years ago, I was going to a home bible study at a couple's house. The wife was a vegan and helped me on my own vegan journey. We connected through food, bible study, and our mutual love for animals. We became good friends and I saw her as the older sister I never had. A few months into our friendship she and her husband announced to the bible study group they were moving to Tennessee with their beautiful daughters. The girls were 6 and 4 at the time and so precious. But I remember the mom, my friend, making a comment to me about one of her daughter's weight. I thought it strange since the girls were not overweight by any means. She had cute round checks but was so precious. I would in no way think anyone would describe her as fat. Anyway, after they moved my friend tried for months to get me to move out there too. She told me about Shamblin so I looked her up. After researching her, I knew my friend was in a cult. When I told her what I found out and believed about Gwen, she cut off all contact from me. 😔She and her husband are part of the ministry leaders team. I pray for them and their daughters.

[@MarvinHartmann452]

When someone is in a cult, there's nothing you can do. The more you try to pull them out, the more they resist. Until the cult is all they have left. This is why I stay as far as any religion as I can. I don't like the idea that I'm constantly observed and judge for everything I do. It's not rational.

[@averageamericangirl6819]

Those poor kids

[@mitchb2305]

Aww, I am so sorry to read this. You tried to persuade them out of it, at least.

[@deborahtruthseeker112]

ALL religions are FALSE. True Christianity is NOT a religion, but the way, the truth, and the life. I know who all the cults are, but I will not mention them here, and they are many, many many!!!😮

[@judycrisenbery2982]

Cult members are sooooooo brainwashed, you can't talk any sense to them

[@michael-499]

Josie your videos are so factual and enlightening. Thank you for your time and efforts you place in these videos. Your work is up there with productions like “Dateline, etc.” Happy New Year to you and I look forward to more videos.

[@mrssallybrown619]

I worked through this program back in the late ‘90’s. I lost weight and learned some things, then moved on with my life. I had no idea she went off the rails. This is insane!

[@Notur764]

Yeah I was referred to her for weight loss and bought her book but, never followed the program

[@sanctuaryrain2010]

Sally Brown, I did too back in the late 1990's. Last year a small article popped up on Yahoo about Gwen Shamblin and I had to do a double take, she looked hideous! Her hair was huge and her make up made her look like a ghost, and she was bone thin. I listened to an interview with her and her husband and their explanation of God was He just wants us to have fun. It made me sick. I really don't believe Gwen Shamblin ever had an over eating problem, she may have loved God at one time but her love of money took over.

[@ronigarcia3351]

It seemed to me in the beginning her wisdom and insight was spot on ,then her pride or greed destroyed a good thing

[@mandilynn24]

Same!!!! I was the smallest I had ever been....zero idea she went bonkers!!!

[@skylights2379]

Yep, me too. It was a shock.

[@Snap.Crackle.Pop.]

I actually preferred this KZbin style of documentary about Gwen Shamblin over HBO’s “The Way Down” exposé about her cult. While I did like the HBO docuseries and look forward to its final episodes, HBO’s storytelling is choppy and jumps around all over the place. This KZbin documentary explains the details using a more linear timeline from beginning to end, is more concise and easier to understand. Overall, it’s shocking how many people got sucked into Shambin’s bizarre cult.

[@Punkin-Ellen]

When you are naive or just trying to survive on your own in the world, you can be susceptible to these types of wolves in sheep's clothing. A LOT of religious groups out there meet the criteria as cults, sad to say.

[@JAM661]

Well a lot of people are addicted to food and basically what she did was originally a good idea. However the more you got into the program the more you became dependent on it to the point of being another addiction. Basically addiction is about making lifestyle changes and living a life where you become more moderate in your behavior. One of the hardest problems news addicts have is what to do with their time and the boredom that come with it. Well her program was not about just taking a few classes but over time it was about joining her Groups. Basically the more you went, the more you got away from addiction to food to finding a new mental and emotional relationship to her and her church and programs. Overtime she built not only a church but almost everything these people did, like having parties, who your friend were,, how you child behaved. Lot of new addicts need that support in the beginning but they usually do not require you slowly hand over your life. For example a 12 step program you go to as many meeting as you want. Then as you get to know people you find someone who has some good soberity time and ask if they will sponsor. If it does not work out you find another. You sponsor many time become a tough love friend who should help be a voice of reason before you fall into something that is not the best because when you first get sober it is easy to feel this high because you feel better physically but the issues that caused the addiction is still there qnd so is the thinking. It takes time and work to change your thinking and views about someone relationship to whatever theybwere using to deal with negative emotion we all feel at some time. American fall for addiction because society tells us we are always suppose to feel a certain way. So if someone is sad we encourage people to stuff it or take something to settle the person down instead of feeling those emotions and understand that emotion can be control qnd will not kill us. This black and white thinking is very much taught in religion ( of course there are always exceptions with these standards, when they apply to the leader.. For example, no excuse for a divorce, but is OK for her to do. What she did was get these people who had a addiction personality ( and probably did not have a very good feeling of self worth either ) to feel better emotionally, but did everything mentally to help them get addicted to her advice ( not just from food but even how to raise your children). The more money and fame she got the more she probably believed her own false message that God agrees with her plan since she is doing so well. Well like most people in high places they like to surround themselves with only people who see them as someone who is great and who do not have the courage to tell them the truth because of fear. Well overtime they are surrounded with yes people who allow the person to think everything is great. Unfortunately when they find out they maybe in a situation like Saddum Hussain who did not even know American troops were in the country when they were practically in his back yard because no one wanted to give him the bad news.

[@LibbyKay188]

When you said she died in a plane crash, I think my jaw hit the floor. What a crazy story. Great video! Well done!

[@GhostyGirlTiff]

Not me reading this 5 min in

[@Chrissy_Hills]

I played it over twice to make sure I heard right

[@personalchefservicesofsues4362]

Yes, and get this...the plane crash was caused by too much weight in the cargo hold. Imagine that!! The plane was too fat!!

[@superiorhairvanaxeldongen9060]

@@personalchefservicesofsues4362 ironic 😂😂😂

[@JacquelynNhi]

Ditto....I had to rewind that part to make sure I heard correctly. 😏

[@romanator30]

Your videos are so entertaining and enjoyable, dont know how i stumbled on this channel. It is good

[@angelofdusk13]

As an ex-Mormon, I'm having flash backs. She literally used the Joe Smith handbook on how to run a cult.

[@kaymanning9911]

Sad

[@Loralanthalas]

​@@kaymanning9911honest.

[@keythdanielsen5533]

Joe Lara didn't seem like much of a prize. That insane look in his eyes when he tells the mother of his child to get help was frightening.

[@UNFFILMStv]

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[@jacquelineoutlaw3252]

The mother of child who had the Tarzan ex lucked out when they took a nose dive in her private plane with her crazed ex at the wheels. They were going after hardcore custody of that little girl. Tortuous litigation can drive a loving parent crazy and especially a parent of lesser means. She didn't have the money to fight those control freaky fools in court. They were rolling in the dough.

[@lordfreerealestate8302]

Which is what abusers like to do ... accuse their victims of being crazy.

[@isabellegauthier4318]

Narcissist

[@chris55529]

Holy cow! You'll probably never see this comment, but just in case: I watch a lot of documentaries, true crime stuff, etc. You have a GIFT for this, make no mistake. I haven't been able to stop watching this video!! Also, you have a very good narrator's voice. Anyway, glad I came upon your channel.

[@yokai_G]

thanks Josie for this channel, i love the stories and the presentations you give to these stories. Thank you 🥰

[@MarlenyMariaPaulsen]

My adopted mother did this ans all I remember is seeing her skin and bones. It truly was a cult and my mother refused to see anything wrong when she was involved with this. I hated her for it because we all tried to tell her this wasn't normal. She was hospitalized and it took time....but she overcame it. Now she's a vegan. She doesn't eat a lot but is healthy.

[@trinitischell1080]

I’m happy she was able to overcome it

[@Philemaphobia]

It must have been hard to transform that hatred back to love, glad you managed and good to hear that your mom is better now, orthorexia is way more manageable than anorexia. (Psst, disclaimer: No, not every vegan is orthorexic, but former anorectic people excluding food groups for non-medical reasons often are, treatment only needed if the nutrients are off, thank you for your attention)

[@toxihex876]

Vegan isn't a healthy diet for a human being lmao btch just went from one idiot group's beliefs to another. If anything, the chances of your body adapting to a food it's not used to is far greater than trying to deprive it of a food it has been relying on and has built a big part of its functioning around.

[@neoqwerty]

@@Philemaphobia Honestly "check your nutrients" is a sentence that should be said to just about anyone. Signed, this omnivore dude who figured out my sugar cravings were my body being dumb thinking that sugar = cocoa while needing *iron* .

[@MrMrs-g2w]

Veganism is not healthy - I'm sorry - I wanted it to be, but it destroyed the health of not only me but many others and yes we did it "the right way". Watch some Ex vegan testimonials and check out the paleo diet or the carnivore diet. Humans have been eating meat for millennia and not just a little bit but a LOT and the evidence is in all the science and artifacts and skeletal human bones proving we ate that way. There's not a single surviving vegan tribe for a reason. If meat was bad, we would not have survived as a species. We are animals consisting of animal protein and we require replenishment with what we're made of - animal protein. we are not cows or other ruminant animals with rumens and four stomachs which are fermentation chambers to process and chemically convert grass into nutrition. We have highly acidic PH even more acidic than a wolf - a carnivore - and we have canine teeth for a reason to rip the meat, and we have intestines designed to digest meat in the upper small intestine FIRST - the meat is all digested - it does not "rot" in the large intestine - study anatomy from science not from vegan gurus - meat digests in the small intestine very easily - it's the plant matter that survives that first digestion process in the upper small intestine and then has to go through the rest of the gut - where your gut bacteria digest the plants - hence why pre-biotic material is made of plants - bacteria eats the plants - that's what rots! That's what gives our poop bulk - THAT'S what makes you poop - plants - that's why beans and broccoli and cabbage and other plant matter gives off gasses, it's the by-product of the digestion process of the plants. Watch the video Oiling of America with Sally Fallon from the Weston A. Price Foundation and find out the conspiracy of the food pyramid, the lies of the Agriculture department in the government and how they all want to make plants GMOs because copyrighted trademarked material like GMOS is what makes the money - the biggest profit margins are in the middle of the grocery store - processed foods - which are all made of mostly plant material. There is so much money in vegan foods. Why do people seem to get better after going vegan for a short time? Because they were previously eating processed garbage and then eliminate it. Take a processed food eating vegan who avoids meat but eats Oreos and vegan chick'n nuggets with garbage ingredients, put them on carnivore, and you will see remarkable results - there are millions of people showing their lab results - no cholesterol, no inflammatory markers, no diabetes, in fact they saw a reversal of these things. The key is go back to eating the diet we all ate in the past - animal products with the fat on it - because it was calorically dense - we prized the fat - we cherished it - we never cut it out or threw it away! We gave it to the most precious of our tribe - the pregnant women and children who needed nourishment to grow - and that's how they were strong and healthy and were lifting heavy things and running and building things all their lives into their old age. Plants were always a condiment, a side dish, spices, herbs to liven up the meal. In NO WAY was it the main sustenance. And we ate nose to tail, giving thanks to the creator God - a lot of gratitude! And use the skins for leather to use for all kinds of ways! Boiled the bones to make a nourishing mineral rich bone broth which finally we now are realizing is healing for us - just like grandma said - you're sick? You need home made chicken soup - why? Because it nourished and strengthened the GUT because the GUT is made of collagen and flesh and complete bioavailable absorbable animal amino acids proteins! FROM ANIMALS. Watch "vegan deterioration" when you see the wasting away of people on a "healthy vegan diet". compare with long term carnivores like Kelly Hogan, Dr Shawn Baker.. many healed their illnesses like Michaela Peterson on her lion diet. By the way, animals grazing on the land reverses desertification - see Allan Savory Institute among other research. Everything else is vegan propaganda because Bill Gates is buying up all the land to grow GMOs and wants you to eat them with his crickets so you can be sick and he can sell you more pharmaceuticals. It's a scam. I love me a fresh organic salad but it's on the side of my grass fed steak that came from my local family owned farm that hasn't been corrupted by big Agriculture government corporations, and has no hormones or other drugs or antibiotics injected into it, and those animals are loved and given a beautiful life protected from predators and cared for from birth to a quick and merciful death. All overseen by animal psychologists and all the animal welfare standards to ensure they are happy and healthy all the way. This is the way to eat.

[@spencesational22]

Shocking. It’s almost like hitting your children for having emotions doesn’t fix anything.

[@dreadstheheart]

She took “the higher the hair the closer to God” to a whole new extreme. It makes The Nanny’s hair look subtle

[@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823]

Cannot STAND her.

[@TheJinx1441]

At least Fran Drescher rocked it way better than her.

[@melissamoonchild9216]

​@@TheJinx1441Fran is a fashion icon ✨️

[@mollyhaworth8826]

Brilliant documentary and so well put together! The story of the Australian ‘Influencer’ Belle Gibson is really interesting if you haven’t looked at that already. Thanks so much for putting this all together!

[@HellsFurby]

I love how her hair got bigger the worse she got and how lifetime used the same tactic in their Gwen movie to show she was becoming more powerful/evil. I wonder how much damage Gwen’s hair routine alone caused the ozone layer. Science should get on that, we need answers.

[@funkyweapon1981]

Her horns grew bigger.

[@vladtheinhaler8940]

It's like the guy on ancient aliens.

[@lukestrawwalker]

@@funkyweapon1981so she grew out the hair to cover them up?? LOL:)

[@liannemarie2504]

I always jokingly say the bigger the hair, the closer to jesus. She apparently took it literally

[@AsifKhan-hf9zy]

it was actually more of of a pinocchio thing. the more money she garnished, the more her hair grew.

[@juliabohemian]

I love how Larry King was able to draw attention to the absurdity of what she was proposing without being argumentative. And she seemed painfully oblivious.

[@nicolehall694]

He was a master interviewer. I miss him

[@whiteobama3032]

As much of a lunatic she was, she was right about porn though.

[@Americanwoman74]

He called Joel Osteen out too for being too soft & asked him why he didn't preach more about hell, which is the reason why Jesus was born to save us. Yet he did it in a non confrontational way. But you could still see Osteen was squirming in his seat 😂

[@jonchaney]

I need a "spankin":

[@leow3696]

That's often how the best interviewers work. Louis Theroux is similar-he's rarely, if ever, confrontational or combative. He just asks a few questions and lets his subject do most of the talking.

[@omnibussy]

please please please please please continue in this direction for your content! you do an excellent job at documentary style, and that is not a term i use lightly on KZbin. these are absolutely great and your voice is perfect for narration. the amount of work you put into the research and script is entirely evident. so glad i found you through the last video!

[@notthegoodgirl]

@O Med I appreciate that, thank you. I'll definitely continue creating documentaries... Hope you keep enjoying them! 💜

[@aishajohnson2076]

@@notthegoodgirl you are doing a good job keep it up.

[@sgtfluffy718]

The plane was overweight. That's just too funny

[@scifibabe3689]

I truly enjoyed watching this documentary. First, I had no idea this woman existed or that she had a cult-like religious following. You learn something new every day. Second, this story is so wild it's like something from a trashy B novel. I guess truth is stranger than fiction. I shared this with my family, and they were amazed at all the twists and turns. Thanks for all the hard work in putting this documentary together. Well done!

[@missxspencer1538]

Like tiger king lol

[@cammey3]

It's religion of course it's a cult

[@cynthiaflores4332]

She for got GOD SEES ALL 👀

[@beargummy1330]

👏👏👏

[@P.I.M.P.720]

And a fool is born every as it goes.

[@elizabethnkadence]

My Aunt and Uncle were members for several years. They were interviewed on the HBO docuseries Gwen was a horrible person. She instructed via text and email to not talk to my aunt and uncle any longer until my aunt got back on track and started loosing weight again

[@rosesweetcharlotte]

That is insane. Hearing how all of those women were just punished for having bad marriages or being unwell or overworked and then made to feel like they were evil was just awful. I don't know how any of them survived that.

[@heavenlymajesticking]

Epitome of "CONTROL"👀

[@AliDudley1993]

You are a great story teller. I just subscribed!

[@mrfender5001]

I must say. Good job putting this together. I've personally seen what goes into a video and I know good and well how much WORK and all the HOURS you had to put into this doc. So please don't think it's not appreciated. Your hard work will pay off if you keep it up. Eventually you will be able to hire help. I remember having to use a walk in closet to record voice overs for audio books. Slow computers with power director that couldn't handle 2.7k video quality without glitches and slow rendering speed finally got DaVinci Resolve and an upgraded computer. So I'm just saying I completely understand the amount of effort you have put into this and that I enjoyed it very much. Thank you and keep it up!

[@cheerp7313]

Very well said. A good job on this video indeed!

[@PHJoy]

I especially thought this clip was a trip! 18:37

[@wickjezek1101]

Here here! This is a high quality production with obvious hours of work.

[@bookingbar-barney]

I’m so thankful for mini documentaries like this. Thank you so much ❤ I’m a Christian, who was raised by parents that joined a cultish church in their very early 20’s. I have learned so much from them about corporate church manipulation, coercion, guilt-tripping, and shaming, etc. Videos like this help me understand my parents better, as I always try and offer sympathy and support. Both of them are still Christians, but don’t attend church much. I don’t blame them whatsoever. God is the most misquoted and misrepresented of them all when imperfect people, hungry for power, try to take His place. *I say all of these things in vulnerability so please be nice 😇

[@ezgicetin5855]

Wow, you're so strong and amazing to remain so gentle, forgiving, and humble through your journey. I have mad respect for you.

[@whoever6458]

I got taken in for about a decade by the corporate church (and I love that you called it that because that's exactly what Christianity has become by in large sadly). It has become about money and power, not love and forgiveness (preach the gospel = forgiveness for one's wrong-doings), which where the only two things Jesus actually commanded of his disciples. Loving others as Jesus loves us is the one that they ignore because it shows them for what they are when they ask for money for more buildings when the early church met in people's houses and for money to pay the pastors when the early pastors had regular jobs to meet their needs and Jesus was homeless as an adult. Loving others is the hardest part but I think it's the most important part.

[@Raven135]

It was out of morbid curiosity that I started watching this video. I stayed for a few reasons and a main one is how well the story was put together! You did such a great job. If this isn't your full time job it should be. The story is fascinating. I have a family member that goes from church " group" to church group and the ones I've met give me the creeps. This lady took the cake. Thanks for the upload.

[@Sailboat.Planta_Electra]

I've gone “down the rabbit hole” as they say on Shamblin. I paid to watch the too-hyped up (but ultimately VERY lackluster) documentary from HBO. I've enjoyed and learned MORE from yours!

[@_obianuju]

This woman’s story was soo interesting yet devastating to the victims! I just watched it on a whim, if I knew what I was in for I would got some snacks. “If you fall in love with the refrigerator you will look like a refrigerator” 😂😂😂😂😭😭. I don’t know why I find that hilarious! Really well put together.

[@carltonwalton9819]

She was fabulous! 😂😂😂 Grifting ares!!!

[@Tara_Masika]

Think I'm turning into a pizza 😂❤

[@wacaysjibril3595]

So If I fall for a beautiful woman I am going to be a beautiful woman. Talk about transitioning.

[@marym1866]

😂😂😂

[@RlRdHd]

There is a small amount of truth there, the aspects of your life you give attention to, grows. It's a a principle of the law of attraction ( not necessarily religion). But the best deceptions have nuggets of truth.

[@sammcclain3778]

As a Tennessean living just around an hour from Brentwood I WAS SHOCKED that I had never heard of Gwen before. I even talked to my mother about her (born in 1966 , also born in Tennessee) and she had never heard of Gwen either. Thank you for this great documentary. It has really been eye opening!

[@talktoeric]

I've lived in Tennessee for 10 years, in Murfreesboro. I never heard of her either! The documentary makes me wonder who would follow this nut.

[@BrenMurphy1]

Imagine falling for the religious nonsense? how stupid and lonely must you be?

[@gra-emed3617]

My gaaaad when did it all go so wrong for her hair! I mean she went from a sort of typical affluent 90s southern lady with a full bodied southern style bob, and turned in to something from the Munsters 😂😂😂

[@lonelycatlady2844]

Don't you dare disrespect the Munsters

[@gra-emed3617]

@@lonelycatlady2844 🫢oops 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@cleopatra1633]

The hair grew together with the inflated ego.

[@ScaryBoomBoomGun]

Loving your documentary videos! They are perfect for the train ride to/from work.

[@SuperFree06]

The only person I ever trusted who had big hair was Dolly Parton.

[@chance7312]

Lol, you don’t trust her anymore???

[@eleanorchorao4875]

You can trust dolly!!!

[@carolynbell2246]

Lol

[@toughcookie6144]

Dolly and Tina and thats about it lol

[@carolinemcgovern8059]

I love Dolly.

[@FlameFlickers]

This was a fascinating story and really well put together - well done. The fact that the plane went down because it was overweight is so deliciously ironic! One thing I found weird was, usually cult leader types are quite persuasive and charismatic but, from the clips you showed, I saw none of that in Gwen. In each of her interviews, it was so obvious that she was spoofing and in complete panic mode, desperately scrambling for words as she feared she was about to finally be exposed. A modern day Pinocchio with her hair taking on the role traditionally played by Pinocchio's nose. I find it strange that anybody would have bought into her crap, that fact she managed to do it on such a huge scale is truly mind-boggling!

[@imagewavesurfphoto4567]

Very much like Trump. Only dumb people could believe in her. When I saw that they were headed to a Trump rally it all came together. Birds of a feather deceiving their flocks together.

[@FlameFlickers]

@@imagewavesurfphoto4567 Yep, the "on their way to a Trump rally" part was pretty perfect as well!

[@joannarushing9299]

People do the work of deceiving themselves

[@delinique1]

People get lost in Southern accents. I promise that accent made her endearing to people, therefore trustful.

[@phicks42]

IIRC the plane wasn't overweight. Her husband and the other guy weren 't really pilots: not current on medical etc. and took off into weather. They quickly lost control of the situation. Listen to the audio tapes and analysis.

[@Lez_awake]

I was pulled into this cult in my 20’s and I thought it must truly be God’s will because I did lose so much weight. I started going to Remnant Fellowship after moving to Nashville in 2002. I really liked Elizabeth and I’ll tell you that she is very sweet. However I left after about 2 months because I saw with my own eyes what the church was about. Sad.

[@Julia_BH]

Narcissism can pull any of us in. You’re not alone. I’ve been sucked into cults before not realizing it for a long time. It’s really crazy how long they can keep up their acts for and how manipulative they are. They can literally fool anyone, especially the vulnerable or those who were raised by a narcissist (like me… yay).

[@Lez_awake]

@@Julia_BH I was also raised by a narcissist! My mom! She died by suicide 3 years ago and blamed ME in her suicide note so that should tell you something lol

[@OneClassicalLass]

If the church's messages doesn't comply with what the Good Book (the Bible) says, FIND A NEW CHURCH ASAP. -some smart Christian person

[@Lez_awake]

@@OneClassicalLass I have to tell you that this woman started off with quoting the Bible and as a new Christian I didn’t know the difference. She didn’t start calling herself a prophet until after I left. Praise God for taking me out of that situation!

[@NanaAdom775]

@@Lez_awake Omg I’m so sorry

[@natrodrz]

The amount of work and quality in this documentary is astounding. I never knew who Gwen was, but oh my gosh, that was one hell of a deep dive. It's scary how you can be an expert giving these wonderful advices about how we should approach food, and yet decide to give it a religious spin and turn it into something this disturbing.