The Culture War #3 - Damien Echols Of The West Memphis 3, Paradise Lost

[@zosojb]

William Ramsey has compiled a vast amount of research on this man and case.

[@gedcaeneus4628]

Also: they were NOT exonerated. Y’all are silly.

[@Calmlysmoke420]

Alfred Plea! GUILTY

[@vonheltonscontradictions]

​@@Calmlysmoke420 it's Alford dummy

[@meccaollielord]

@@Calmlysmoke420no an Alford plea means the court were guilty of wrongfully convicting someone. They just won’t compensate for the wrong doings

[@nadinekeating3255]

​@@meccaollielord No. An Alfred plea is where a defendant wants to maintain their innocence, but at the same time, acknowledges that the state has enough evidence against them that if they were to go to trial, they would most likely be convicted. It doesn't have anything to do with wrongful conviction.

[@meccaollielord]

@@nadinekeating3255 why be offered an Alford plea then? If one is already convicted with enough evidence to convict then why offer an Alford plea?

[@Dakotako]

There is nothing more noble in our society than a good lawman and nothing more vile than a bad one.

[@andregviens]

Is there such a thing as a good one though

[@Chief_K]

The bad lawman that let these three monster free? They should be on the firing squad.

[@joefarmer4465]

Police have always been involved in rape and homosexuality. I'm not surprised about the pedophilia. Defund government.

[@tek3311]

These were good lawmen. Echols is guilty as sin. If you do a deep dive into the case, you will see for yourself. Jessie’s confession (that was supposedly coerced) contained a lot of info that the police did not know which later proved to be correct. Jessie’s confession IS legitimate. Plus he is dumb not disabled. There’s much more evidence if you do a deep dive but that confession is the most important part. Shame on Tim for hosting this absolute monster of a human being.

[@SuEnRoD]

@@tek3311 I don't know anything about this case, but why won't they do the DNA testing he wants?

[@Brumsly]

For anyone interested, there’s was a phone call to police nobody ever brings up, but you can find it and listen yourself. The caller says, “i’m the one that killed those kids, watcha gonna do?” It is 1000% Damien’s voice. I’ve watched all 4 documentaries, I’ve watched his youtube, I’m EXTREMELY familiar with his voice, it’s him. I used to believe he was innocent, for years, but delving into the evidence, the broken bottle of Evans, and Damien’s psych reports really leave no doubt that he’s guilty. I implore anyone not convinced to listen to the phone call, it was the nail in the coffin for me, there’s no doubt it’s his voice.

[@Brumsly]

Like I said, I too believed he was innocent, but there’s a TON of stuff you’re missing with the documentaries.

[@jericaanthony4028]

Post on comments the phone call…but until then I call bullshit

[@Brumsly]

@@jericaanthony4028 You can’t post links in the comments, why don’t you just look it up? You literally responded to me using a device that can google what i’m talking about in seconds…

[@Investigate_Mermaids]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/g4LKh3WspKZkhLs @@jericaanthony4028

[@Investigate_Mermaids]

You can post the URL though. @@Brumsly

[@sirbalanced5486]

Anyone & Everyone Who Violates The Constitution Should Be Held Accountable. This Includes Cops, Politicians, Celebrities, & CEO’s

[@FACTBOT_5000]

*ESPECIALLY people granted special power by virtue of their occupation.

[@steveessig6739]

What about people who murder children...

[@dogguy8603]

And I believe that the punishment should be triple what it would be for a normal person, so of the punishment is normally 10 years then it should be a minimum 30 for elites

[@jima6545]

This deserves a heart, not a thumbs up. Ironically, at least one comment is censored

[@real_T-Rog]

Shouldn't child murderers be executed?

[@bonniebluebonnet]

I can respect that you don't believe in the death Penalty, although I strongly disagree with you. 10 years ago, my 6 yr old granddaughter was r@ped and murdered, her body stuffed into a garbage bag. Her killer's DNA was found INSIDE her body. There was a LOT of evidence. Then he tried to set fire to her grieving parents' home while they slept. He shot and badly wounded a Cop when they went to arrest him a couple of weeks later. This man deserved the Death Penalty if anyone did.

[@peterc3262]

Can't imagine you're suffering. You're completely correct. Sometimes death is the only justice.

[@helenestiernstrand6575]

Horrible💔

[@THERI0NdotAI]

I believe some crimes warrant it, but there have to be multiple different impartial jurisdictions *agreeing* on both guilt and judgement

[@sp1200M3D]

R.I.P. the real Memphis 3.

[@presidentglasylabolas8631]

@@sp1200M3D AMEN!

[@justinjackson4073]

It's extremely sad that all 6 of them boys were completely innocent!

[@presidentglasylabolas8631]

@@justinjackson4073 THREE

[@presidentglasylabolas8631]

@@justinjackson4073 3 voluntary GUILTY pleas is not "innocence".

[@justinjackson4073]

@presidentglasylabolas8631 they legally maintained innocence! Learn what and why the Alfred plea is and why it was offered to them when they was already convicted!!! You refuse to educate yourself and admit you are wrong even after explaining things to you like you're 5 yrs old!

[@AeroGuy07]

I got a DUI in 1990, when I was 19. I spent 63 days in two different county jails. I got moved from my original jail after two weeks and was sent to another county jail. My cell mate at the second jail was on trial for murder. Two other guys on the block were on trial in 16 other counties for cocaine trafficking. There was another guy in for assault with a deadly weapon, he was waiting for transfer to state prison. I was just a dumb kid who got caught driving drunk and these were my "friends" for 6 weeks! I've never driven drunk since.

[@Dack720]

Big deal sounds like a typical county jail dui I’ll bet you got extorted and didn’t even realize it happened stay out the street if you’re not ready for what comes with it but tbf sounds like you learned you lesson 😂

[@vegvisirphotography5632]

I frequently drive under the influence. Just today. I was driving heavily under the influence. A new personal record of "being under the influence", even for me! I had to drive by 9 schools as well. Very squeeky bum time nervous! However, the car radio could be argued to be a bad influence. I was certain under it. **rocks out to Metallica**

[@tiredofit4761]

Arkansas will forget you’re in jail. No one in the justice system is your advocate

[@antihebrew]

I'm friends with someone who was involved in a horrific sawn-off shotgun murder. I sometimes use that information as leverage against her to get my dick sucked🙂

[@swiggityswaggot5490]

@Beaver of the Pola Yes, it's true. There is no privacy, but no one cares. No one is trying to see you shit. All that happens is people flush a ton. And if you don't, your cellmates flip out because newsflash, shit really stinks, especially if you are locked in a small box with it.

[@pittzu33]

The movie that the guy hung himself was Shawshank Redemption. The Green Mile was where the guy had healing powers and they killed him anyway, but he made the head guard live to be 140+ years. Not to mention Mr. Jingles, the mouse.

[@janistroud76]

Yup

[@theresak3795]

Mr Jingles!! He was too cute.

[@pittzu33]

@@theresak3795 He is living at the mouse circus down in Florida now. 😉

[@pittzu33]

Wait, why do I remember so much about prison movies? I'm allergic to prison!

[@janistroud76]

@@pittzu33 they’re the two best ones.

[@possumfriend2335]

The affluenza case was not rape, it was drunk driving that killed several people during a rich kid's house party.

[@bonniebluebonnet]

And that lil SOB-POS is still getting away with stuff- like repeatedly violating his probation with no consequences.

[@stfuximshelli495]

You’re thinking of another affluenza case. I believe you are thinking about Ethan Couch and they are referring to Brock Turner.

[@jkeezy93]

“He couldn’t have raped that woman. He’s rich. Women love money”

[@stfuximshelli495]

@@jkeezy93 while I don’t agree with the whole affluenza argument, this is such a poor representation of it 😂😂

[@davidparker9676]

@@stfuximshelli495 I would love to see spoiled rich kids get treated like poor white trash by the system. Maybe they would see the other side of humanity. Rich kids are horrible and they don't realize what garbage they are without money and power.

[@Redactedsillyguy]

Documentary totally left out that the kid who confessed was having crying fits for days directly after the murders and was not bullied into confessing but did so willingly multiple times. And that Damien was institutionalized multiple times prior for having psychotic episodes and for being homicidal. Obviously left out of the doc who spent their whole time trying to act like the satanic panic was fake and who demonized the victims father. He was also 100% murdering and torturing animals . This dude is guilty as fuck.

[@Redactedsillyguy]

That’s literally why in the documentary the low IQ kids step mom looks pissed the whole time because she was the one who told police that he was having meltdowns after the murders she knew they were guilty goddamn this pisses me off lmao

[@WhatisReal11]

Yes Echols mental health records shows he drank blood and tortured animals. Its outrageous anyone defends this freak

[@adriel7229]

I don't know how much of that is factual and how much has been embellished over the years but the fact is no matter what Damien was like as a teenager there's nothing connecting him to the crime scene and no circumstantial evidence indicating he was there. There's zero reason he and Jason would have been hanging out with Jesse across town from where they lived. They weren't friends. You have to write fiction to make them guilty in this situation. Common sense says it was probably the violent stepfather who was p*ssed he spent all evening after work looking for the kid who didn't come home when his mother warned him.

[@stubadub2k]

@@adriel7229 if you believe that, you have done no research

[@adriel7229]

@@stubadub2k I've done a ton of research. I've watched every interview available, read every source I can find. I've tried to believe the guilty side. But you have no real evidence. Tell me a narrative of what actually happened that evening, what Damien, Jason, and Jessie were doing and how they came to hang out, walked 2 miles across town in broad daylight at 5pm on busy roads and neighborhoods without a single person in West Memphis saying "I saw three teenagers walking". According to Jessie's "confession" the crime happened in the morning, if the police hadn't corrected him. There is no narrative that makes any sense that has even been asserted, there is no evidence, all you can do is say Damien was a troubled kid. Okay, so what? Connect him to this crime. Please.

[@Master...deBater]

Damien: "I'm a victim of Satanic panic"..."My hero is Aleister Crowley"!!!

[@MK-ih6wp]

Yeah this is a tough one

[@WhatisReal11]

Its outrageous

[@dogguy8603]

Except Crowley wasn't a Satanist

[@MisterKBM]

Doesn't mean he's guilty of the crime, nor that the man condones what happened. Aleister Crowley was mainly about sex magic and self indulgence. Those who admire him may be mislead, or have an occult foundation. However, most of them abhor harming a child.

[@dogguy8603]

@@MisterKBM yah, Crowley was nuts and like drugs, but as far as I can tell he wasn't sacrificing people

[@justaclassyduck]

I totally dig this new addition. It's really nice to get a break from the regular format, and have these more grounded, interesting conversations on Fridays. I remember hearing about those murders as a little kid, but had completely forgotten about it. So glad to hear he's alive and well, and that he's still fighting to find the actual perpetrator(s)

[@ancientmystique3557]

He isnt trying to find the perps. He is trying to get himself absolved and gaslighting everyone. I dont know if he is guilty. I know he sure doesnt act innocent. And the satanic panic they are referring to? It wasnt panic. The truth was leaking out and everyone involved from government, down, was panicking. I am not saying it wasnt taken advantage of.....however, Martins Daycare. That was there and was covered up. There are so many examples.

[@angieoxford7092]

I live in TN, just a few hours outside Memphis. I remember hearing people talking on both sides of it. Some thought the boys did it, others found it suspicious. It was a big topic around here at the time.

[@moreranch9174]

Pretty sure it was one of the boys step fathers who is dead

[@moreranch9174]

They had concluded I think but don’t take my word. A documentary I watched really pointed to him

[@kiwiprouddavids724]

This guy's story is horrible, but he still seems like a normal guy ,it's affected hi but it hasn't become part of his being kinda thing.i know he's talking about it and fighting against this stuff happening , but he's strong about it,it's almost like the person he is before and now allowed him to go through that and not becoming a horrible person,he's using it as a strength not a life destroying event

[@Americansikkunt]

“I didn’t do it. I think some Satanist did it.” -Damien Echols “Why do you think that?”. -prosecutor “Well, they did what a satanist would do: *insert graphic immoral behavior*, in order to adrenaline the blood. Just like Aleisywr Crowley’s book instructs.” -Damien Echols

[@MeanBeanComedy]

Yup. He mentioned things they "would do" that were done. Only someone there would've known that.

[@CulperCast]

I despise crowley and the occult shit but this is not sufficient enough to say he did it dude.

[@DRourk]

@@CulperCast There's a TON of other evidence aside from this.

[@AkreaothAzathothAhrimanKala]

@@CulperCast I despise Jeekus Bhrist and the stinky Bible. But I don't hate Joel Osteen.

[@UMAMIMAMU]

@@DRourk Sure. A ton of CIRCUMSTANTIAL evidence. There's is NOTHING to conclusively physically put them at the scene of the crime. This is not my opinion. It's a 100% FACT. This is irrespective to whether they did it or not. I don't know if they did and I'm not speculating on their guilt or innocence. The thing you non-supporters can't seem to grasp is that the main issue here is not necessarily their guilt or innocence but the presence of more than enough REASONABLE DOUBT. It seems me, that those in the "guilty" camp almost without fail, seem to be incapable of admitting or recognizing just how horribly the WMPD bungled this investigation. There's no two ways around it. Once again, this is a 100% FACT. Tasking a civilian (Vickie Hutcheson) with her own 8 year old child to do what basically amounted to undercover work? Sloppy unprofessional police work. Repeatedly interviewing that same 8 year old child despite the obvious and increasing ridiculousness of his statements? Sloppy unprofessional police work. Failure to thoroughly question and investigate ALL of the kid's parents? Sloppy unprofessional police work. Losing the blood sample from Mr. Bojangles? Sloppy unprofessional police work. At the end of the day, when you can't prove beyond a reasonable doubt that someone did something, you don't just lock them up anyway to be safe and make everyone happy. That goes tenfold when you're giving someone the death penalty (which is why we need to get rid of it entirely). If our society is willing to accept the execution of an innocent person as mere collateral damage, than what does that truly say about the value society places on human life?

[@ISAYWORDS1]

He was trying to play it like people were reading into his body language during the trial and he was just "an open book" this is so misleading and purely designed to manipulate people who haven't seen the footage. Damien Echols flipped the bird, blew kisses, and licked his lips at the victims families during the trial. *That's* why people thought his courtroom behavior made him seem arrogant and guilty as hell (which he is.)

[@roxannemoser]

Damien admitted he was a smart@ss teen. He admitted saying and doing awful things because he believed in the justice system. Think about it, how mad would you be if 3 sets of parents wanted to see you on death row for something you know you didn't do, and you naively trusted a broken justice system?

[@crippledalien5937]

Exhibit 500 that reveals Damien’s mental health history is why they focused on him. He drank blood, made homicidal and suicidal threats. His family wouldn’t have him home because they were scared of him. Threatened to eat his dad. Ummm Hollywood propaganda got them out.

[@gbaker1a775]

@@knavery761they were released because of all the public pressure and money behind them.

[@pheebs818]

​@@gbaker1a775nah, that's why they were put in jail.

[@crowmedicine3890]

​@@knavery761read the transcripts.

[@Brinalea1031]

Damien is a sick man too bad some stupid celebrities decided they were innocent and convinced others of the same. Those three should rot in jail.

[@ereiamwyrdraven]

Just read "Almost Home" by Echols himself. It is what convinced me of his guilt. He wrote it at a time he did not expect to get out of prison so its very candid & telling.

[@sbrad09]

It is refreshing to see so many intelligent people in the comments. The internet is where the WM3 lived in glory. People are finally waking up. Damian is guilty, as were the other three. However, the other two killers were impressionable followers unaware of how far things would go that day.

[@HerzogVonMartian]

that does seem the case, but one of them ( the tall one ) looks like he enjoyed it.

[@stephw.6539]

I'm disappointed that Tim did no actual research on this case before having him on. And I am not talking about the 3 documentaries that pick and choose which information to provide, I am talking about delving into the actual casework that is public. The info that Miskelly got correct about the crime that was not public. Or the 500 page assessment that was compiled by the defense for an appeal, which shows Echol's multiple stays in mental institutions, crimes for which he is on probabtion (which include breaking and entering and sexual misconduct), other accused crimes such as chasing a child with an ax and attempting to burn down a house, personality tests and reports, I could keep going. His family had reported that they were scared of him, this was prior to the murders, and was in the info from the mental health facility documentation during the time they were trying to treat him leading up to the murders. This wasnt some goth kid that was picked on because of the clothes he wore, the police were aware of him and his troubled past and had eyewitnesses that put him in the area at the time of the murders. Instead of testing a hair on a shoelace, how about we test blood found on Echols clothing? I think that may be more accurate.

[@remogodot1934]

I read those transcripts. I think Miskelly was the only one who told the truth in that trial, at least before he was potentially coerced to stop. This dude did it, imo. Took 3 hollywood funded movies to paint a picture that conveniently left out so much important information and played on the viewers emotions. I ain't buyin it. This dude not only did it, but has been riding on his fame as a result for decades now.

[@ra0ulduk398]

I was always convinced they did it.. even only have seen paradise lost

[@j-555]

tim pool is an idiot. he sat across from a child murderer like he's interviewing someone volunteering at his local rec center.

[@chuckywaggs7770]

If there was blood on Damiens clothes, as you suggest, why didn't police test it? Why is there zero forensic evidence linking him or the other boys? You also seem to gloss over the FACT that Jesse Miskelley was out of town at a wrestling meet the night of the murders. Multiple people testified to this at the original trial and there are pictures and his name in the sign in sheet. Basing your opinion on the origcase files alone shows you have a very limited scope of the case since the case made by the police at that time didn't even include interviews with the parents, statements made by witnesses, any conclusive forensic evidence or verified alibi of the kid they got a confession out of.

[@__-wm9lu]

Miskelly was fed info by the police chief during his 15 hour interrogation. It wasn’t “public” but he was fed info

[@lynnkayee1015]

It is insane to me that people will take the time to watch 4 whole movies but won't even read Exhibit 500 that completely puts to rest the myth that Damien was sought out for being weird. No, he was disturbed. His own mother said she was terrified of what he would do to her and other kids in the home. He was institutionalized twice in the year before the murders for homicidal and suicidal ideation. He described himself as full of not anger, but rage and admitted he committed violent acts as a release. Including, but not limited to, trying to attack & gouge the eyes out of another kid, many fights, threats, setting fires in classrooms and when another patient slit their wrist, he grabbed their arm, drank their blood and rubbed over himself. He threatened to murder his parents. He threatened to murder his girlfriends parents. He said he believed human beings only exist to hurt each other and don't have feelings. Several people (who hung out with him) reported him harming animals. He even admits he "joked" about killing the boys in front of people who then reported it. Add in the police got a tip from someone who knew Damien called in and said they saw him covered in mud near the scene of the murders after the time of the murders and that is why they looked into him. Any police force in the country would have suspected him with that information. That is just the suspicion aspect. Whole books can be written about the unbelievable amount of circumstantial evidence including Jessie and Damien knowing details only the killers could know. Like Michael Moore being separated and less harmed. One being cut in the face and another in the genitals. Or Damien mentioning how he "heard" the killers urinated in the kids mouths and autopsy showed two of them had urine in their stomachs. But he "heard" it from a juvie probation officer even though it was one of the most guarded secrets that even helping investigators weren't informed of! But the police shared it with some random probation officer?! Oh, and they weren't even prosecuted in West Memphis. The prosecutor also makes sure to say in several ways that being goth isn't weird and Wicca is not evil. He literally refers to Damien's Wiccan beliefs as his "good" side in closing arguments. It is transcribed for anyone to read. All of this is easily found online as long as you're willing to do more than just watch videos. They may have (mistakenly or not) thought there were ritualistic aspects to the case, but that wasn't the center of the case. I'm not even going to say you should believe they are guilty. That is fine if you do not believe they are. Everyone can have their own thoughts, but don't rely on the Paradise Lost films as a good source. They aren't!

[@PurpleGold.]

100% facts. Thank you.

[@balladofthebroken7569]

West Memphis Three like McMartin preschool case (keep in mind a second excavation done by a top archaeologist out of UCLA proved there were indeed tunnels), Franklin Coverup, Finder’s Cult, etc. was another example of SRA.

[@ayedee2036]

I don't know enough about this to have an opinion either way. It is interesting how much a movie/documentary can convince people of though.

[@RavenWolf515]

None of that is physical evidence, of which there is none tying the WM3 to the murders. They were absolutely prosecuted because the state wanted to close the case and didn't have a viable suspect

[@busyboysonedollarcircus6601]

but he sounds 150% believable! very clever to frame yourself for murder especially when you're so frameable. he's still ice cold, the glasses are a nice touch. imagine the luck of finding an interviewer this gullible 😅

[@chattanoogachop5154]

Tim Pool utterly clueless about the basics of the case.

[@notsorry3631]

To be fair, he admitted that in the beginning

[@Mudskippered]

but he feels smart

[@breshkotashmal7362]

Tim Pool is clueless about a lot of things.

[@DumHeather]

@notsorry3631 not the type of guest you want to be associated with without doing any research… that’s for sure

[@djjukeboxhero6491]

Where is Dexter when you need him?

[@trishasword]

This makes me think less of you Tim Pool.

[@thenarsian]

Damien is guilty, he did it and is now getting away with murder. Look at the evidence left out of those documentaries and watch the interrogation videos. You'll see that they were guilty. Absolutely horrible human being. I was duped early on too. Now l know better. Look into it yourself, don't take my word for it.

[@destroya3303]

Hollywood told us they were innocent. That tells us a lot about Hollywood. One thing I've noticed is witches (and satanists) stick together.

[@GabrielNicho]

Zero evidence against him

[@matta5749]

@@GabrielNichoabsolutely absurd statement no matter where you stand on the topic. you can say there's no proof, but you prove your ignorance when you say there was no evidence

[@GabrielNicho]

@@matta5749 Nope. There is zero evidence. Unless you have some evidence you would like to share? If there was evidence against him, he would still be in prison. The central park five on the other hand? Tons of evidence against t hem.

[@markjones7109]

So what evidence do you have he`s guilty?

[@axxa5000]

Cassandra sounds like she's always on the verge of tears lol

[@thomdrolet2624]

One of the reasons I don't trust her judgment very often.

[@Peckerwood1381]

Yes! She Always has a shaky trembling voice. What is that

[@darksu6947]

​@@Peckerwood1381 It's the stupidity trying to shine through.

[@redrumax]

​@@Peckerwood1381 she looks and sounds like a drugged up alcoholic

[@BurningWell]

Some people are just very nervous on camera.

[@whiskey11niner]

Damien was convicted twice, by jury’s, that didn’t even have access to his previous psychiatric record, he also had multiple under age girlfriends at the time he committed the murders with his cronies, one of them Jessie Misskelley, the one who tested as being borderline slow after his lawyer specifically told him “hey if you score really low on this test”, they can’t give you the death penalty, admitted on multiple occasions to committing these murders with Damien Echols and Jason Baldwin to the interrogating officers after his lawyer begged him for over 20 minutes not to do so, he admitted it to the bus driver taking him to prison, and talked to his cellmate about so much that the cell mate requested to be removed from the cell because he was afraid of him, this dude is beyond a doubt a child murderer, you should really vet who you allow on your program Timmy 😂

[@AlaraTheFae]

I've heard so many mixed things about this case that I'm totally confused. There was a long time I didn't like Johnny Depp for years because of his avocation to letting these guys off. With how satanic Hollywood is, it's hard not to think that a celeb would advocate for a satanic individual. However, It's almost as if we're _supposed_ to believe that they're innocent.

[@jenniferh.2150]

And yet not a stitch of DNA evidence. No defensive wounds on any of them. No DNA under the kids’ fingernails? A single hair of Terry Hobbs survived the elements in that crime scene but you’re saying the DNA of 3 separate people is just magically gone? It disappeared?

[@whiskey11niner]

@@jenniferh.2150 do you really think there’d be a ton of defensive wounds inflicted by 8 years olds on 3 adult men, with Jessie Misskelley admitting multiple times to taking part in it, and when Damien Echols was being interviewed at one point he said he would imagine that the killer(s) probably pissed in the boys’ mouths, and what did they find in the autopsy, urine in the stomachs, and terry hobbs’ hair being found on one of the shoe laces that were used to tie up the boys, Jee, could that be because one of the boys lived in terry Hobbs house, not to mention dna from hair isn’t as definitive as blood dna

[@jenniferh.2150]

@@whiskey11niner I’m not accusing Hobbs as much as I’m saying that it’s not impossible for DNA to remain at the crime scene. There’s no way what’s described by the state could have happened without the DNA of the WM3 being present at the scene. To your very point, the urine would have had epithelial cells belonging to any member of the WM3. I repeat: There was no WM3 DNA found on any of those boys and if they had killed those kids that is an absolute impossibility. I don’t care who said what to whom because that’s hearsay and not evidence. They’re currently trying to discredit Henry Lee for the very same practices that the State of Arkansas used in this case. So you either believe in evidence or you don’t. His past mental health records are not evidence. Strangers’ testimony is not evidence. Coerced confession is not evidence. There is no evidence tying these guys to this murder, without mentioning that you’re describing a level of sophistication that can’t be carried out by three teenage boys in 1993.

[@whiskey11niner]

@@jenniferh.2150 dude they even found the Rambo knife the base of which left an imprint in one of the boys skulls less than 100 feet from Jason Baldwin’s house, in a lake, and coerced confession, im sure Misskelley was real coerced when literally would not stop confessing to his cellmate and prison transport, not to mention when he was sobbing to his friend the day after the murders telling him he killed some kids, before the wider public even knew the boys were missing, cope harder that “dreamy guy” Damien Echols is a child murderer

[@robbiefrench4884]

Lost a lot of respect for Tim after watching this. I felt he was a smart guy.

[@roytore5062]

He’s always been a fraud. All he has is nerd street smarts

[@crowmedicine3890]

Here's a fun fact, Jessie conveniently scored a 70 on his post arrest IQ test. I read the testimony of his mental health professional witness saying on two separate PRE arrest IQ tests he scored an 88. Which is low normal. But we're calling him mentally handicapped. How convenient.

[@trevorrichards6642]

What are you suggesting?

[@crowmedicine3890]

@@trevorrichards6642 Here is exactly what I'm saying, the only card his lawyers could possibly play, after his many confessions, was that he was coerced because he has a low IQ. But that's not how that works. One false confession, ok, not over and over and over. He continued to confess even after he was convicted. His mental health professional, HIS witness testified that he tested twice prior to the murders and scored 88. Which is in the normal range. And here, in fact everywhere now, they call Jessie mentally handicapped. That is a lie.

[@mistressofstones]

I agree he's borderline, but I'm not sure people understand just how debilitating an IQ under 90 really is.

[@crowmedicine3890]

@@mistressofstones I do understand. And 88 doesn't make him "mentally handicapped."

[@Krebstar100]

@jesslee7878 debilitating? He holds a job as an auto mechanic. While you don't have to be highly intelligent to do that job, you can't be mentally debilitated. He's below average intelligence, but nothing that would imply he is mentally handicapped like many supporters claim.

[@tab207]

Here’s Damien’s FAVORITE Crowley quote, put it to practice even “For the highest spiritual working one must accordingly choose that victim which contains the greatest and purest force. A male child of perfect innocence and high intelligence is the most satisfactory and suitable victim…But the bloody sacrifice, though more dangerous, is more efficacious; and for nearly all purposes human sacrifice is the best” Magick in Theory & Practice chapter 12

[@devilsadversary9431]

Not his favorite quote lol that’s a very misleading thing to say, Crowley was into dark practice and he studied it all his life not only do his books speak on human sacrifice they speak on every other method of magic in between, he is just known for going to the darkest places in search of truth, your just referencing info to back up what you already believe it doesn’t work like that though you still have no stronger evidence than any other

[@kthulhukif]

Other than that copy and paste, have you read anything else of his? To be able to come up with such a definitive answer as to what that specifically means? Other than a podcast or forum, what research have you done on this case?

[@WhatisReal11]

@@devilsadversary9431 Nevermind Damians mental health records of drinking blood and torturing dogs to death, thats all just Satanic Panic!!!... Simp for evil bro hbo said so. Hail satan

[@AmberJan.]

Where does it say that this is his favourite quote? Have you read anything of Crowley's at all yourself? Or are you just regurgitating what you read online? Damien is a very kind and humble person, go and look at his videos and you will be able to tell. He still suffers hugely, physically and emotionally, from the horrible treatments and beatings he received in prison. With all the doubt surrounding the case, and no definitive evidence, this is disgusting and a disgrace. And people like you are not helping, shame on you.

[@jspella1477]

@@AmberJan.Where do you get the idea that Damien is kind and humble? Kind, humble people don't have a history of harming and killing animals. There’s a lot more that proves him to be a cruel human being. He has learned to mesmerize and charm people.

[@ssfoodtruck3233]

Alright, so no one is going to question the last 60 seconds where dude is talking about his interest in magic…??? Tim scratching his eye at the madness spewing out. Got me having second thoughts of his innocence…

[@crowmedicine3890]

I haven't watched the last 60 seconds but I have read the transcripts in this case. Damien is a monster.

[@sdc4089]

What? Do you know what ceremonial magic is? The number one rule is to not wish or cause harm to anyone because it will come back to you three fold.

[@PariahPsypomp6775]

All religions practice magic and ceremonial magic. The Eucharist is a magic ritual. I practice magic even though I'm not religious. Intense spirituality is normal among death row inmates and it should be encouraged imo.

[@DumHeather]

The west Memphis 3 supporters are your typical fanatical “I watched a movie and was greatly emotionally swayed so I’ll take up the cause with my life and I’ll never bother doing any research myself because I BELIEVE the Hollywood documentarians and I’ll argue with anybody who actually did any true research and disagrees with me because I watched a movie!!” Type people

[@titansfan4215]

You notice the documentaries and Damien always talk about Jessie having a low IQ and how the cops supposedly spent 12 hours beating a coerced confession out of him but they’ll never mention the confession Jessie gives with his attorney begging him to stay quiet. Lol. If Jessie is completely innocent, had absolutely nothing and knew nothing about the crime, why would he be adamant to confess a third time and say ‘I want something done’ even with his lawyer begging him to not give a statement????? I used to support their innocence but at what point do you throw in the towel? It’s almost laughable. None of them have legit alibis. They did it. They’re guilty.

[@mightiestalone9851]

He confessed even more than 3 times. He's even confessed (privately) since being released! How can people not see through this BS! And he wasn't interrogated for 12 hours, it was more like an hour. Not joking.

[@TuesdayMoney]

Thank you!!! Thank you!!! WM3 fans live in a world of delusion that Damien created for them. He gets off on lying and what he's done. Absolutely sickening. Jessie is a POS but the only one who actually seemed to have some remorse. All you have to do is watch that press conference and see Jessie sitting there in utter silence and torture, wanting it to be over with. I thought he was gonna pop up any moment and scream they did it.

[@noxrotspar3219]

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[@libertyandjustice3721]

Did this guy Damien say yea if I were a psycho then I would of pissed in there mouths or something and they found urine in the kids stomachs lol. WTF !

[@mightiestalone9851]

@@libertyandjustice3721 Yes.

[@rachelhall4808]

I followed this deeply and you only get to hear one side from every documentary on it. If you start buying books that aren’t main stream publications you start to see a more in depth detailed picture. One that the main stream narrative over shadows.

[@MeanBeanComedy]

And then you see he definitely did it.

[@stevenl1706]

Yup. Read Programmed to Kill by Dave McGowan. This man is guilty as sin.

[@ToddAutry]

@@stevenl1706 thank you!!!

[@larrygraham520]

@@MeanBeanComedy Pure ignorance. They are innocent. Read the case files. Forget the movies. The fact that he’s begging the state to still do DNA testing should clue you in to that he’s innocent. He would have to be the biggest moron ever to be a free man and to still be begging them to test the evidence. It makes no logical sense.

[@MeanBeanComedy]

@@larrygraham520 I did read the case files. There will be no DNA found on those laces that sat in mud for days, been sitting in a vault for 30 years, and have been handled by dozens of people. He knows they won't test it because the court case is over. Besides, he waited until just after his 10-year probation ran out. Convenient.

[@buckfifty37]

@ 56:45 nobody was content to see an innocent person die. People believed they were guilty. Paradise Lost might have raised some good points, but I don’t think it proved their innocence.

[@Mickey784cr]

If it was enough to give reasonable doubt as to their guilt, it was enough. No proof of innocence required.

[@lurkmoar9066]

The State was content to try and block a new trial even after the DNA results were available. Hard to argue that is innocent on their part.

[@playbench]

I wish some critical questions were asked, but that's probably why "Damien" agreed to the interview. Like why did he change his name to that of the devil? why did he torture and kill dogs? how much paint did you huff and might that have more to do with your mental issues than solitary? why did you confess if you didn't do it? why were you and your friends bragging about killing those boys at the rollerskating rink? why were you so obsessed with drinking blood? how did you know that the victims had their mouths urinated in when only the killer would know? why was there the imprint of the butt of your survival knife compass on the victims head? why did you lie about not being in the area? why did all 3 of you fail lie detector tests?..... The documentaries left out the damning stuff and were made to influence you by lying by omission. This is a perfect example of how the media manipulates the masses and erodes our country with evil.

[@vandykegirl1]

he was studying for the priesthood. he never confessed. He never drank blood or killed dogs.

[@amandamassarone1233]

Damien actually changed his name for Father Damien, a priest and absolutely not connected with the devil. hes been very vocal about why he changed his name and who he changed his name for. he did not torture and kill dogs. he was studying for priesthood, he was not someone that believe in satan. Lie Detector tests are not accurate and not even used anymore because they're so unreliable.

[@pommiebears]

He chose the name Damien after the patron saint of leporacy. He used to try to heal people with it, until he died of the disease himself. He was training to become a priest. The rest? He was a teenager. He didn’t drink blood lol. Thought he was mysterious and tough, but he was just a poor teenager in a world of religious fantasies.

[@JustinOldman-y4h]

Damian Did IT!

[@Krista-b2r]

@@JustinOldman-y4hwhy do you think that I’m curious

[@HerzogVonMartian]

Echols did that shit

[@ChristAirOnFlat]

Hey he did it. He's a liar.

[@justinjackson4073]

Ok Goofy!

[@mckernan603]

Tim is so fantastically and flamboyantly stupid it’s funny

[@roxannemoser]

I was 28 when the murders happened. I had an 8-year-old daughter. I remember being so scared someone was going to hurt my kids, but satanic panic never entered my mind. I always believed in their innocence, because my son, ended up at 16-17, much like Damien. And don't start blaming parents. I raised my children alone. I was never on welfare, so I worked extremely hard so they didn't live in poverty. Edit: my son got his education and is now a Harley Davidson mechanic for a big dealership in Philly.

[@mightiestalone9851]

Damien is 100% guilty, no doubt. Just because your son may have "ended up like Damien" in his teenage years because he wore certain clothes or listened to certain music, doesn't mean he had the evil heart of Damien. I doubt your son was drinking his friend's blood or torturing animals like Damien (prior to the murders).

[@TuesdayMoney]

Was your son also beating cats and dogs to death? Was your son on full disability for mental issues, including being homicidal? Did your son lick the blood off his friends? Did your son brag to others that he killed 3 boys? Did your son have to be removed from your home to stay in a mental ward? I really doubt it and I'm not sure your son would be happy that you're comparing him to Damien because I'm betting they are nothing alike sans some dark clothing. Hell, all I wear now is black and nobody is randomly arresting me for murder. It seems your knowledge of this case is rather shallow. Perhaps you should dig a bit deeper. They are beyond guilty and sickening.

[@Alex-tu9bh]

If Damien did it why would he be so for having DNA tested and a new trial. That makes no sense

[@andreaturnquist3345]

​@@Alex-tu9bhBecause he knows it won't happen. This case is closed due to the Alford plea.

[@AR-dj3yw]

Dude did it

[@JustinOldman-y4h]

I see what you really are Tim

[@Harold.Richard]

What is he?

[@JustinOldman-y4h]

@Harold.Richard Evil

[@billycoo7916]

He’s guilty af

[@HerzogVonMartian]

yeah, but people hate Christians so they abuse this case to make a bs argument

[@lisawilder7626]

I never see in these interviews someone come out and ask him why all 3 don't have alibis. Or if he still maims and tortures dogs like he did as a kid.

[@R-Lee-]

What about all the satanic tattoos he has? And he said aleister Crowley got him through his prison sentence. Aleister Crowley was the founder of the satanic church and his one law was "do whatever you want to anyone you want"

[@samathagoff156]

Do you have an alibi for every minute of everyday when you were a teenager? I sure don’t.

[@lisawilder7626]

@@samathagoff156 If I had ever been falsely accused of a triple murder, I would have darn well had an alibi

[@chuckywaggs7770]

Jesse Miskelley does have a rock solid alibi. He was at a wrestling match out of town the night this took place and multiple other kids and coaches testified to this, as well as there being photos of him at the meet and his signature in the sign in ledger. That didn't stop the police from placing him at the crime scene at the exact time he would've been there and it didn't convince a jury.

[@lisawilder7626]

@@chuckywaggs7770 the wrestling match was a different day

[@ereiamwyrdraven]

I get so upset with this "stepfathers hair in the shoelace" thing. It was never shown to be an exact match to T Hobbs...just the same blood type...thats all the same blood type.

[@avathemis9878]

Damien Echols is guilty.

[@justinjackson4073]

@avathemis9878 on what evidence? If you knew anything about anything you'd know them boys could not have done that on a chance meeting, no ride and not one single shred of physical evidence against them! The physical evidence they do have rules them out! You know who it does belong too?

[@SaysWho1013]

Are you freaking nuts DNA exonerated him

[@justinjackson4073]

@SaysWho1013 They don't wanna hear that though! There's accountability to be taken for putting 3 innocent boys in prison to get done how they were done and letting the "REAL" killer/s go free. It will force them to look internally in themselves and they just can't bare to go there cause they already know what's there! Staying in denial is their last defense and they stand strong in denial!

[@avathemis9878]

@@SaysWho1013 No, you are completely misinformed, my friend. DNA did not exonerate him in any way. How do you explain to yourself why they pled guilty, via the Alfred plea, if they were exonerated? You misunderstood, or someone lied to you.

[@justinjackson4073]

@avathemis9878 it ruled all 3 of them boys as NOT A POSSIBILITY IT IS THEIR'S!!! It also CONFIRMED it belonged to the stepdad and his best friend at the time who are both now dead!!! Folks like you are the reason they got a way with killing them boys and sending 3 INNOCENT men to prison!!! Smarten up or shut up! I'd appreciate it if ya done both!

[@metallicbaldwin]

Rest in peace Michael Moore, Steven Branch, and Christopher Byers. These killers have fooled only worldly earthbound judges. They will meet the real judge when their time is up.

[@renevandelooij8470]

They are 100% innocent zero doubt in my mind, the police was corrupt Terry Hobbs most likely was the killer.

[@metallicbaldwin]

@@renevandelooij8470 Terry Hobbs has an airtight alibi. Two busted alibis for Damien Echols and Jessie Misskelley each. Jason Baldwin has given no alibi. No physical or circumstantial evidence connects Terry Hobbs. The WM3 were convicted by two juries because of the physical and circumstantial evidence as well as their confessions. Jessie keeps confessing and by my count has nine confessions to law enforcement. Damien had multiple confessions in public. Jason Confessed to a cellmate who when he testified was out of jail and was offered nothing for his testimony. They have unlimited Hollywood money at their disposal and instead of bringing forth their explosive new DNA evidence they requested an Alford plea of guilty. They claimed they'd prove their innocence when they were released from jail, that was over a decade ago. Damien is on YT. Jason seems to travel around and go to bars in the name of the innocence project or whatever, and take pictures with inmates that have been released through no help from his organization. Jessie Misskelley moved right back to the rock he was under before 1993. As far as I can tell none of these individuals have anything to do with one another any more outside of the occasional photo op. These are guilty and all it takes is even the smallest of digging outside of the WM3 franchise propaganda.

[@Mmmhrmm]

​@@metallicbaldwin lmfao 🤣 zombiezombezombieheheheheohohohoh

[@metallicbaldwin]

@@Mmmhrmm you must be the biggest edgelord in the whole elementary school

[@samathagoff156]

@@metallicbaldwinyou mean the inmate who said that he supposedly did inappropriate things to one of the kids genitalia? That was debunked because a counselor who worked with them two WROTE THE DEFENDANTS LAWER and admitted he started that rumor and told it to the kid who went on stand and said that. Or do you mean the hear say from the teenage girls who in court went full circle on the she said she said and couldn’t pinpoint which on heard the actual confession from the defendants mouth?

[@Smashy360]

The state isn't pursuing this because these guys took an Alford plea. As far as the state is concerned they are guilty, they admitted to their guilt, and they served their time. They were not released because they were exonerated.

[@nathanweinstein2766]

Alford plea = accepting they were convicted fairly (enough evidence against them), but retain their innocent plea

[@Smashy360]

@@nathanweinstein2766 incorrect. An Alford plea is a GUILTY plea.

[@JohnSnow-ny3io]

@@nathanweinstein2766 they pleaded guilty but have a right to claim they're innocent in public Also, they actually did do it

[@CGcorruptproductions]

@@Smashy360so you just reject the fact that people take Alford please to get out of prison and continue to claim they are innocent? What would you do in that situation?

[@Smashy360]

@@CGcorruptproductions I would not be in prison for murder because I don't commit haenus acts of violence against others.

[@jeremiahbarlow461]

I can't believe Tim fell for this sick man's lies.

[@ericfisher1360]

Damian played Pool just like Blu. Timmy never learns...

[@Huntyvr9]

My husband got arrested for a dui years ago in California. He was the last car to hit in a freeway pile up. He was blamed for it because he was the last. That makes no sense! The original paperwork from the arresting officer said he was all sped up like he was on meth. When they searched his car, they found a large amount of weed. He was selling at the time. The cop then charged the paperwork to say he was talking slow and had bloodshot eyes. He was totally sober and just happened upon a multi-car pile up and got blamed for the whole thing! Cops should do their jobs and find the real perpetrators instead of just looking for a scape goat. It’s corrupt!

[@terminalspiritdisease394]

Yeah, he is 100% guilty, thanks Tim and Cassandra for platforming literal murderer. Next time you should get Hillary Clinton as a guest.

[@mally9839]

Then why is he free now? How do you know he’s guilty but the state itself changed its mind? Why are you not the judge and executioner?

[@iTzYoMasterXX]

Why would you have a convicted murderer on your show?

[@MeanBeanComedy]

Because they pretend he's innocent.

[@justinjackson4073]

​@@MeanBeanComedy he is innocent goofy!

[@Smashy360]

This guy should hang out with OJ, Steven Avery, Casey Anthony, R. Kelly, JF Gariepy, and that lady from the Tiger King documentary.

[@1travstone]

Why?

[@glasshalffull8471]

​@@1travstoneThink about it or alternatively do 5 minutes research, f^ck it I will just tell you, this commenter is presuming he's guilty and comparing him with OJ etc, Got it now?

[@FightingfortheKing]

Bro had an actual convicted child murderer on the podcast. Real nice.

[@joetaravella13]

probably should research the case. they didn't do anything.

[@FightingfortheKing]

@@joetaravella13 I know more than you.

[@joetaravella13]

@@FightingfortheKing naaaaa. only thing they were guilty of was being "different" in the bible belt. ask yourself this question: why is Damien trying so hard to test the available DNA skin cell evidence in the ligature's? if someone is guilty..the last thing they want is for further DNA testing to be done which was not available 30 years ago.

[@FightingfortheKing]

@@joetaravella13 Because he knows that the DNA will likely be inconclusive given that the boys were thrown into a river filled with all sorts of foreign contaminants. Finding his DNA 30 years later would be like finding a needle in a haystack. He’s not an idiot, though he is a murderer.

[@joetaravella13]

@@FightingfortheKing your argument makes ZERO sense lol. if anyone committed a crime the last thing they would want to do is have the DNA tested and re-tested..even if it was found "inconclusive". that is literally basically hanging yourself if you are "guilty". like what planet are you on? with the testing available today, they would most certainly be able to test for the skin cells between the ligatures. there's only 1 reliable DNA sample that was found at the crime scene..that was of Terry Hobbs. if you're out of prison for a murder you committed..the last thing you'd want to do is have the case brought back up into the spotlight.

[@casey3713]

My partner was sentenced to prison for 6 years and 3 of it was in what is called "solitary confinement". If the average person really understood what they do to you in prison we would tear them down and come up with a new system. The majority of people in prison aren't violent people. We had to take profit out of the justice system

[@cmckinney2318]

I couldn’t agree with you more!!! My husband also spent some time in Prison ….. all I will say is that there is indeed prison related PTSD!!!

[@DonnyStanley]

You'd think someone who's been accused of rititual sacrifice would want to completely distance themselves from anything that would remotely validate that accusation-- and yet he attributes Aleister Crowley with saving his life and has written multiple books on ceremonial magick. Oh, and he likes Joel Osteen, a known prosperity gospel preaching false prophet.

[@WhatisReal11]

Magick the act of deception and casting spells on peoples minds. …. Wonder if he still drinks blood like he did in mental hospital as a teen …

[@gnlout7403]

He likes Joel Osteen? That's weird

[@outoftheforest7652]

where does he say that? and Aleister Crowley is a complicated figure. Ceremonial Magic and the OTO are often highly misunderstood .. From what I have listened so far to Damien's work he is on the up and up.. Valid and good. I hate it when folks do not even understand MAGICK and make stupid assumptions about it.. do your homework and then return.

[@bloppysloppy2283]

​@@outoftheforest7652 Crowley advocated sacrificing children and performing sex magic rituals with them in his book Magik in theory and practice.

[@your_belief_vs_everything]

@@outoftheforest7652 Magick is fake and ghey.

[@theinfidel6301]

I went to a training school with 3 of the detectives on this case in 2011 and they are absolutely convinced the west Memphis 3 are guilty

[@TomChopperGuitar]

Even with the exoneration of DNA evidence?

[@MeanBeanComedy]

Because they are. Their confessions included details the public didn't know and could only be known if you witnessed the crime. (What they did, to which boy, how they were bound and killed, where evidence ended up, timelines, etc.) Your buddies are probably just literate enough to read the evidence in the court and not watch an HBO doc.

[@theinfidel6301]

@@TomChopperGuitar dude we didn’t go it to detail about the case, but they believe the boys are guilty, they honestly believe that

[@stevealford230]

@@TomChopperGuitar he WASN'T exonerated.

[@sanders194539]

Look into the details of how the DNA evidence was collected and stored. Only one side to this stpry has been presented to the public, the side of two powerful show biz directors, who didnt just want to make money, they also wanted tk spin a sensational narrative to shoft public opinion

[@JR-lv9nb]

Cassandra is not a mentally stable individual

[@poonboy8667]

That's probably why I'm so attracted to her.

[@jasonreynolds6643]

I followed this case for a long time. I started out thinking they were 100% innocent. Then I found out how many facts were lied about to portray them as innocent that made me change my mind. Now I am on the fence. Jessie initially confessed within a very short amount of time. They drove him back and forth to get his dad to sign off on them giving him a polygraph. He then took the polygraph and confessed pretty quickly after that. Then he sat around for hours while they were working on the arrest orders for Damien and Jason and they came back for a clarification statement. The lawyers use this last statement as a basis for the “he was tortured for 8 hours before confessing” lie. The documentaries and the Defense Team also downplay/ignore the fact they he confessed multiple times before and after his conviction. As far as the DNA the kids were submerged naked in water for hours so there wasn’t DNA that could definitively be linked to the murderous act. There was a hair that was found in the shoelaces used to bind the boys of one of the stepfathers. But it could have been innocent secondary transfer. It doesn’t actually prove the WM3 are innocent. It just proves that of the limited DNA that was recovered it doesn’t match them. The WM3 may be 100% innocent but when they keep wheeling out fabrications like this it makes a lot of people doubt their integrity.

[@gnlout7403]

Well said, Jason.

[@ScottStappsintheBAR]

You're absolutely right. Damien is a psychopathic child murderer who has perfected the narrative you hear in this interview for years. These people are either to stupid, lazy or simply uninterested to look at this entire case objectively.

[@gats9593]

I'm getting central park 5 vibes.

[@WhatisReal11]

@@ScottStappsintheBAR What type of man makes a career after emulating Alister Crowley and the occult after being questioned and caught lying about him on trail for the murder of children? An evil man. Its so utterly apparent its sickening. Anyone who cant see it is braindead.

[@gnlout7403]

@@gats9593 yep

[@khann844]

Do you think he did it? asked the lawyer. Jason Baldwin hesitation was priceless and telling! Evidence is lacking but for people to say they're innocent is shocking

[@DRourk]

Evidence wasn't and isn't lacking....

[@MichelleLee-bg2bu]

There is zero evidence except that the DNA proved they weren't involved but it does prove the step dad and his friend were,so....

[@nashmonti120]

Fucking love that the comment section is ripping Tim’s ass for having this guy on

[@ereiamwyrdraven]

"These three kids getting murdered" 😐 does not even have enough respect to say the names of victims. Here let me help ...Stevie Branch, Christopher Byers & Michael Moore.

[@ereiamwyrdraven]

Tim admits he is not very knowledgeable about the case from the get but than talks about the facts of the case like its non disbuted. I hate when so called interviewers do this. He has a chance to do some real digging...flopped.

[@tabithalarue]

I Love this new show so much! I like timcast IRL but I think these conversations are just as important

[@davidparker9676]

I love that it is without Ian's nonsense comments and derailing intelligent conversations.

[@MeanBeanComedy]

@@davidparker9676 TBF, if Ian had read about this case, maybe he would've asked some important questions for once, instead of deepthroating this child-murderer.

[@zingara76]

As long Tim let’s other people talk and stop flexing his knowledge. “Do you understand what this means?” Ohh my Tim loves his own voice let the people you bring over talk more.

[@tabithalarue]

@Ⓥ BETAZZ Ⓥ I hear you on that. He's so arrogant and tells the same few anecdotes it gets nauseating but he has some amazing guests and he doesn't do 4 ad reads an hour so I do prefer his show to many others who cover the news

[@davidparker9676]

@@tabithalarue Tim does keep repeating the same anecdotes. I roll my eyes every time he goes to the same tired metaphors and stories. At least Ian isn't platformed on this show.

[@rigavitch]

I have TOTALLY changed my mind on the WM3. GUILTY!!!

[@Justice4alll320]

You can honestly say there isn’t a OUNCE of reasonable doubt in a court of law?

[@willyupshaw]

@@Justice4alll320 The jury didn't think so, and that was their job. Unless something tangible can be brought up, not just the hypotheses of hollywood celebrities and documentary makers, than citizens have the right to have confidence in the verdict.

[@presidentglasylabolas8631]

@@willyupshaw Well Said

[@rileylively]

After reading every single piece of evidence and statements from the case files… they are guilty.

[@RoachClass2001]

HA! This must be a blonde joke, right?! “I’ve read every single…” you lost your argument there. Considering there’s more missing evidence than actual evidence. Redeem yourself. Show us a single shred of evidence that points to guilt, and we’ll wait…

[@mills1540]

Bet you haven't lol

[@TJJJJJJJJJJJ]

@@RoachClass2001there’s a tonne of evidence not covered in the 3 x Paradis lost and West of Memphis doco’s mate. Just this guys criminal background and disturbing reported mental health issues should set off the alarm bells and red flags. Someone did a good job breaking down all the supported evidence a few comments above this one if your too lazy to search yourself champ. imo I definitely wouldn’t be leaving this guy alone to babysit 😮

[@tstephens333520]

He admitted it 3 times

[@baneverything5580]

At least three people tied the different knots is one thing. @@RoachClass2001

[@patkearney9320]

TIM Ireland here’re great show I subscribed like your honest open approach keep up the good work thanks.

[@Muddy_The_Water]

My late husband used to say "WMPD knew who it was they have something on them. That's why they were given the Alford Plea, so they can keep the case closed so they don't get caught"

[@77Avadon77]

The alford plea was so they don't turn around and Sue the state for millions and millions of dollars

[@SlickBlackCadillac]

Damien Echols and the other two were found guilty and rightfully so. The evidence can be found easily online. Dont take my word for it, and certainly don't take the documentary's words for it, do your own research.

[@jrushing1972]

​@SlickBlackCadillac could you elaborate? All I'm finding as evidence that was left out of the doc was that his ex girlfriend testified DE carried a knife? I'll continue to research, but curious if there's something

[@SlickBlackCadillac]

@@jrushing1972 search for WM3 and Callahan. A site will come up that looks like old school internet cuz it is. But it has all the evidence. Including the MULTIPLE, yes multiple, confessions by Jessie Misskelley. He includes details that even the cops didn't know at that time but verified later.

[@Muddy_The_Water]

@@SlickBlackCadillac you are one of those people aren't you.

[@kellyopondue]

If you really want to know the truth of this case, read the Callahan files. It's all there. Everything that was left out of the documentaries. Good day everyone!

[@gnlout7403]

Yes. What is it called? The 500 something or another?

[@kellyopondue]

@@gnlout7403 exhibit 500, yes. There's so much more than that though

[@gnlout7403]

@@greyc8589 very true. I can't count how many headlines about famous cases that don't match the facts of the case. But nobody bothers to look into the cases - rarely, I should say. It's maddening.

[@Berryations]

How are more ppl not calling Tim out for this?!?!?

[@kellyopondue]

@@Berryations it's so frustrating! Most ppl don't research and just take anothers word for it.. I find it repulsive Tim supposedly stands for the truth and all that but couldn't be bothered to actually look into this and realize these guys are guilty. Makes me sick

[@ultrakool]

49:58 DE's body language at 50:10 is defensive. he hears "some of the guilty are let go" and he rears up like that shoe fits him to a tee🤔

[@Somewhereintime7]

The lifting of the shoulders ? Damien could be a bit annoyed that Tim kept paraphrasing the idea of guilty going free to save one innocent. He raised his shoulders after the 3rd or 4th time Tim mentioned that reasoning, as if to say---> ( hey Tim what are you trying to say ). That can be interpreted defensive or justified annoyance. If a person is constantly hearing people think they did something they didn't, wouldn't they become angry if someone they think of as a friend or possible friend suddenly look at them or treat them like all the others who doubt their innocence ?

[@kevinr8953]

I pled on a Alford plea back in 2009. Biggest regret of my life. In some ways I’m lucky and in others I’m haunted.

[@your_belief_vs_everything]

Were you guilty like this creep?

[@kevinr8953]

@@your_belief_vs_everything I don’t know this man’s story. This is my first time hearing of his case ever. Besides the Alford plea (which means I maintain my innocence) my case and his case have nothing in common. I wish you peace.

[@rigavitch]

@@kevinr8953 Find William Ramsey's research on this scumbag!

[@BennyMcGibbon]

But at least you are free. Incarnation over multiple multiple years burns the soul. Stay free brother forget the ins and outs.

[@amandamassarone1233]

@@your_belief_vs_everything this creep isnt guilty. he'd still be in prison or dead if he was. actual evidence proved them innocent

[@aric5011]

Good show Tim! Glad you're doing this new show!

[@rraefyn]

Read the court documents. They tell a different tale. Fairbanks is a super stan without objectivity. Poole is a dupers delight with a long track record for getting snowed by grifters. Echols the chaos magician is laughing all the way to the bank. Some days you just have to laugh at the theatre of the absurd. This video proves it.

[@WhatisReal11]

Anyone who reads to court documents and Echols vile mental health history records.... sees how evil this truly is.

[@rraefyn]

My entire reply was wiped out in an instant so I'm going to just leave this. God bless Stevie Branch, Michael Moore and Christopher Byers. May their souls rest in peace when the truth is revealed and this macabre spectacle finally comes to an end.

[@TH3G3RM4NGUY]

bro I just heard about this guy and looking into him he has all kinds of mysticism, magic and ritual coming out of prison for a ritual murder? Lots of symbolism and weird signaling going on from start to finish here.

[@rraefyn]

@@TH3G3RM4NGUY The more you dig in the more you see what a charlatan he is. Just look @ his billboard adverts plastered all over his body. He's a sigil maniac grifting his true "spiritual" practice.

[@Willowtree82]

Why won't they do the DNA tests? What kind of killer gets freed from prison and after all these years is still going to the courts and trying to get the DNA tested. Just because someone studies religion and the occult doesn't make them a Satanist. I'm a Christian and I read occult books because it's tied to Christianity. Studying all religions and theosophy has made me a stronger Christian ✝️

[@superbroncgt5502]

The state has nothing to gain from allowing the DNA testing. They’ve already convicted Damien, and then let him out on this weird plea. If he’s guilty, they look bad because he’s walking free. If he’s innocent, they look bad because they convicted him and the real killer has escaped justice.

[@Berryations]

He killed then but didn’t touch the shoe laces so make of that what you will

[@DrDemented9885]

They were in water for a day and half stupid

[@your_belief_vs_everything]

He's guilty.

[@your_belief_vs_everything]

@T there were 3 killers, 3 knots used. They are testing the ones he never touched. Magically found by his shady lawyer.

[@NC4E]

I’ve been saying that too. It’s an embarrassment for the state no matter the results.

[@darthbob6501]

I dont think i have ever heard of a case where so many people are split. O.J ain't got s*it on this case.

[@silverwolfaz6601]

I remember my uncles always talking about this when growing up. It was a really big topic on the Navajo Nation.

[@XDarksoulX1129]

It was a really big topic in general it was all over the news for years when i was a kid. 60 monutes all kinds of shit. West memphis 3 are horrible people all that. So im confused why hes on here

[@SecNotSureSir]

I like the Navajo/Hopi NSBM dudes. They're rad.

[@XDarksoulX1129]

@Beaver of the Pola i havnt heard mych of it since something big maybe it was them being let out. I never watched the documentaries cause i heard enough the story was brutal. Arent these the 3 goth kids that killed the jock?

[@XDarksoulX1129]

@Beaver of the Pola damien had the most fucked up answers during interrogation talking about how it would feel good to kill someone.

[@XDarksoulX1129]

@Beaver of the Pola but yeah wasnt one of the kids they killed a jock or were they younger kids?

[@danielwilson1307]

I'm not even 10 minutes into this interview and I'm beside myself

[@candyland8903]

​@villefere6968 if he is guilty, why on earth would he be pushing for more DNA evidence???

[@MeanBeanComedy]

@@candyland8903 Because it's a shoelace that's 30 years old and sat in a bog for days and has been handled by dozens of people. He knows it won't have any DNA that's usable on it. Skin cells degrade in that amount of time. Also, his ten-year probation is up. He knows that even if they do prove it's him, it won't matter. They can't reopen the case. He also knows they won't test the DNA because the case is closed, he was proven guilty in a court of law by a jury of his peers, and they have no reason to retest it. It's a way for him to look innocent while making a demand that can't hurt him in any way and will never happen.

[@MeanBeanComedy]

@@villefere6968 Guilty as Sin. How does Tim not realise this?

[@sanders194539]

Because as crazy as it sounds there was a conspiracy from day one to get these child murderers out of jail. And one of the tactics the documentary film makers used was "to acuse your enemy of what you are doing" -saul alinsky. The documentary film makers people have been using this same tactic for 2,000 years

[@Berryations]

@@candyland8903 because it sounds good!!! There’s no dna that can really be recovered

[@MsTinkerbelle87]

Exhibit 500.

[@Victoria12339]

Ssshhhh🤔🤫🤫. People don't like to know about that.

[@MsTinkerbelle87]

@@Victoria12339too effing bad lol they killed those boys.

[@christophergargaro959]

AKA "That Which We Don't Speak Of" among WM3 supporters. Just like Jesse's six other confessions after his 'coerced' one. 🙄

[@justinjackson4073]

​@MsTinkerbelle87 no they did not! You sound like you killed a lot if brain cells though!

[@justinjackson4073]

​@@MsTinkerbelle87 you ain't all that bright are ya? It shows!

[@lurkmoar9066]

So Damien Echols is accusing Steve Jones. Interesting.

[@DveDveSold]

Guilty

[@Frater369]

Hearing him say false confession with a straight face is laughable. Those with eyes to see know you are guilty as fk

[@jlindsay]

Hollywood vampires kzbin.info/www/bejne/kGSXYaNnpLiUaac

[@Smashy360]

I've researched this case before. This guy and his bros were guilty.

[@amontana4895]

Dna testing proved not ??

[@sonnygL7]

The dna testing should be done for those poor children. Not for the family or anyone aside from them. I always picture the last one killed. What this kid witnessed was the most heinous & evil thing on earth. Everyone in every family has 1 family member who will be the last one to see everyone go. The boys families need to fight for them and request that DNA' 😔

[@WhatisReal11]

Damian Echols drank blood and stomped dogs to death, and has open pathological obsession with Crowley, Crowley writes about human sacrifice of young boys for power. It is utterly outrageous and sickening, how the world has been deceived via this bias documentaries . He confused to 2 girls in town, they all plead guilty and were convicted on trail twice. Read his medical mental health history yourself. This man is sick beyond belief.

[@MatthewsSloan]

I agree. I also think that Damien's defense team should release their DNA findings and the state should do their own.

[@WhatisReal11]

@@MatthewsSloan you have hair and skin dna of everyone who live with in most of your clothes. .🥴 the reason they aren’t taking it becuase it’s weakest form of dna evidence possible

[@whoismrpib]

@@MatthewsSloan Yeah that’s a big question mark. Why didn’t the defense share the findings from 2011 with the state? I’m not a legal expert, but that doesn’t sound right

[@bobbycecere1037]

And now you know who the evil people are. Whoever it is that's fighting the DNA evidence

[@jackieblue787]

About 34:00, Tim stopped himself from comparing this man's prison as an innocent victim to Tim's comic book characters. Good on you tim.

[@Berryations]

He’s not innocent how stupid

[@JR-ql3je]

In July 2007, new forensic evidence was presented. A report jointly issued by the state and the defense team stated, "Although most of the genetic material recovered from the scene was attributable to the victims of the offenses, some of it cannot be attributed to either the victims or the defendants."

[@MichelleLee-bg2bu]

And the evidence points to the abusive psycho step dad and to the guy that he had an alibi with. I think the boys accidentally came across them in the woods having sex and that's what made the step dad flip out, there's actual testimony from several people that have seen the step dad and other guy kissing and fooling around and they would go to the woods to meet up with other men, from the truck stop.

[@APGifts]

@@MichelleLee-bg2bu That is a complete L!E and you know that it is. N0NE of the evidence points to the stepdads. And ... . For anyone who ‘ thinks ‘ that ~ ‘Terry Hobbs’ ~ should be seen as ~ an honestly "valid suspect" ~ in the case of the ‘West Memphis Three ~ Chi!d Ki!!ings’ ~ please be advised that ~ due to ~ the fact that : (1) THE ~ HA!R ~ !$ ~ N0T ~ A ~ MATCH and (2) even if the hair ~ were ~ actually ~ a match ~ !T’$ PR3$3NCE ~ could be ( and ~ it HA$ B33N ~ BY most EXPERTS 0N ~ ‘ B0TH ’ ~ $!DE$ of ~ the WM3 case ) ~ easily ~ EXPLA!NED - AWAY ~ BY ~ the notion of ~ ‘ $3C0NDARY - TRAN$FER ‘ and (3) P0L!CE AND FB! ~ having ~ $TATED that ~ H0BB$ ~ HAS ~ C0MPL!3D - W!TH ~ their !NV3$T!GAT!0N$ ~ in every way ~ AND ~ he !$ ~ N0T ~ seen as being ~ A $U$P3CT and (4) multiple other reasons … no serious - researcher … of the case … believes that Terry Hobbs or John Mark Byers or David Jacoby … were … in any way … involved … in the ki!!ings. THE ~ FB! ~ CAN ~ also ~ C0NF!RM ~ THAT ~ THE ~ ‘ HA!R ’ ~ that has been alleged ~ to have been ~ ‘ found ’ ~ in ~ a ~ ‘ knot ’ ~ in ~ one of the shoe-strings ~ that had been used ~ to tie-up ~ one of the chi!dren ~ !$ ~ N0T ~ A ~ MATCH ~ T0 ~ E!THER ~ Terry H0BB$ ~ 0R ~ to ~ his friend ~ at the time of the ki!!ings ~ David JAC0BY. AND ~ in all ~ judicial and !ega! ~ fairness to ~ THE ~ WM3 ~ defense-team ~ they ~ NEVER ~ actually ~ CLA!MED ~ that ~ THE ~ ‘ HA!R ’ ~ WAS ~ A ~ ‘ MATCH ’ ~ T0 E!THER H0BB$ 0R to JAC0BY ~ but rather ~ what they said was that ~ the hair ~ _” could not rule them out ”_ ~ ( WH!CH ~ !$ ~ clearly ~ N0T ~ THE $AME thing ~ A$ ~ that of ~ being ~ A ' MATCH ' ) . !R0N!CALLY enough ~ THE ~ ‘ HA!R ’ ~ !$ ~ actually ~ ' AN - EXACT - MATCH ' ~ T0 ~ something like ~ over 4-mi!!ion ~ 0THER ~ !ND!V!DUAL$ ~ !ocated in the United States ~ alone ~ ( N0NE ~ of whom ~ ARE ~ E!THER ~ Terry H0BB$ ~ 0R ~ David JAC0BY ). !N ADD!T!0N ~ THE ~ ‘ HA!R ’ ~ !$ ~ also ~ actually ~ ' A - PART!AL - MATCH ' ~ T0 ~ something like ~ over 27-mi!!ion ~ 0THER ~ !ND!V!DUAL$ ~ !ocated in the United States ~ alone ~ ( N0NE ~ of whom ~ ARE ~ E!THER ~ Terry H0BB$ ~ 0R ~ David JAC0BY ). The dna ~ in the hair is ~ ' mito - chon - drial ' ~ and ~ so ~ it would be ~ ‘ worthless ‘ ~ to any investigator ~ because ~ ( just as ~ the WM3 ~ defense-team ~ has ~ openly -- stated ) ~ it means ~ that ~ its very presence ~ can be ~ easily explained-away ~ by ~ the ~ proven - concept of ~ ' secondary - transfer '. EVEN DAM!EN ECH0L$ / M!CHAEL HUTCH!N$0N -- HIMSELF -- HAS -- PUBL!CLY -- ADM!TTED ( as was seen in his Interview with ‘ Tim Pool ’ ) -- THAT -- HE -- N0 ~ L0NGER ~ FEELS ~ THAT ~ E!THER BYERS 0R H0BB$ 0R JAC0BY ~ ARE ~ ( 0R $H0ULD C0NT!NUE T0 BE $EEN AS ) ~ ' $U$PECT$ ' ~ in the case. ECH0LS / HUTCH!N$0N … IS ... ‘ N0W ‘ ... ‘ CLA!M!NG ’ ... ( just as he has … stated … multiple times … such as in his interview with ‘ Tim Pool ‘ ) ... THAT ... he … ‘ now ‘ … believes ... that … ' A - D!RTY - C0P ' … ‘ IS - THE - “ REAL ” - K!LLER ’ … and … has … also noted that … he’s … decided … to …‘ not ‘ … reveal … ‘ the - name ’ … of … ‘ the - cop ’ … who … he … ‘ claims ’ … he … ‘ now ‘ … feels … is … ‘ the “ real ” ki!!er ’ … and … he’s … stated that … his … ‘ reason ’ … for … not … ‘ revealing ’ … ‘ the - name ’ … of … ’ the - cop ’ … is … that … since … he … was … ( by his own admission ) … wrong … in his … ‘ guessing ’ … and … ‘ accusations ’ … about … the … two … (2) … completely-innocent … and yet … wrongly-accused … step-fathers … he does … not … want to … make … that same … _ahem_ … _‘ mistake ’_ … again … for a … third … (3rd)… time). AND ~ partially ~ DUE T0 ~ the ~ recorded ~ fact ~ of ~ EVEN ~ Michael Hutchinson ~ ( a.k.a. Damien ECH0L$ ) ~ himself ~ ( repeatedly and publicly ) ~ $TAT!NG ~ ( such as in his interview with ‘ Tim Pool ‘ ) ~ that ~ HE ~ N0 ~ L0NGER ~ _'$UPP0RT$_ … THE … _’HA!R-!N-THE-KN0T_ … TH30RY ... ( $!NCE !T !$ … ' N0T ‘ … ‘ A - MATCH ‘ … to either man ~ and ~ it’s mere mitochondrial-dna whose very presence can be so easily explained-away by the clear concept of ' secondary - transfer ' ) ~ and ~ he’s …‘ now ‘ .. ‘ claiming ‘ … to believe that _" a dirty cop "_ in the area was who he … _‘ thinks ’_ … ‘ did the crime ‘ and “ set him up ” ... Terry H0BB$ EX-W!FE, PAM, HAS since, publicly-RECANTED HER $TATEMENT THAT SHE TH0UGHT !T … ‘ C0ULD ‘ … BE H0BB$ ~ ( and she has noted that she was battling with an addiction-problem back when she made those statements ) ~ and has apologized to Hobbs and they have rekindled a friendship. Terry Hobbs’ daughter, Amanda, has also recently publicly-recanted the accusations that she once made against him and there are multiple videos found online of her statement recantations. Interested parties are advised to … watch … the … Roberta G!ass / (‘True Crime Report') … Podcasts on this case -- AND -- visit … the … 'Ca!!ahan' … Website on this case -- AND -- review … the … 'Wi!!iam Ramsey: !nvestigates' … !nformation on this case -- AND -- see … the … Jennifer Car!son … Gary Meece … Josh Diaz / (’The Lab’) … Lisa 0’Brien / (‘Based In Fact’) … Rick Mu!!enax / (‘Burn After Reading’) … and … Ed 0pperman / (‘The 0pperman Report’) … KZbin channe!s … along with … the … multiple other … channe!s and sites and podcasts … that provide both interviews and reports … for much more detail on all of both the dna-evidence and the circumstantial-evidence …that’s been found … in regards to this case … (along with commentary pertaining to Echo!’s ' Tim Pool ' interview and the break-up of his friendship with ‘ Jason Ba!dwin ‘.). . A great *MUST READ* book on this case is called -- *"ABOMINATION: **_Devil Worship and Deception_* *_in the West Memphis Murders"_* -- which was -- written *BY* -- famed attorney *WILLIAM RAMSEY* . . Also -- can anyone explain WHY it is that ECH0L$ does N0T want the BL00D that was found 0N the P3NDANT / N3CKLACE that he was wearing at the time of the ki!!ings -- 0R -- the $3M3N found on the s!acks that had been worn by one of the chi!d-victims -- also provided with a ‘testing’ of the DNA evidence ? Asking for a friend … .

[@jasona5833]

You blew kisses to the victims family dude

[@Featherfinder]

And never apologized for that, to my knowledge.

[@ZurvanChronos-e2g]

That was badass

[@ZX-ou5op]

That was a sh***y, stupid thing to do, but still doesn't make him a murderer.

[@remogodot1934]

@@ZX-ou5op That doesn't. All the other evidence and Miskelly's multiple eyewitness testimony does. Love how people who never even glanced at the trial transcripts suddenly want to have opinions on murder trials. lol dope.

[@Zeb75]

He definitely did it. As a matter of fact he admitted it to take the Alford plea.

[@JohnSnow-ny3io]

First of all, this dude is guilty Second, I have trouble believing that Tim actually thinks that he is innocent

[@Anna-cx4tg]

I don't think Tim would talk to him this way if he thought he was guilty. I'm guessing with all the content he produces, his research into the case was minimal and was mislead to think they were released because there was some big finding that put their guilt in question or even proved their innocence. Instead, there was a massive media campaign supported by celebrities and the Innocence Project and they got out on a technicality, like many of those types do (Adnan Sayed is another example). The Innocence Project doesn't believe in death penalty period so they support people regardless of their guilt and look for legal tricks to get them off death row/LWOP and then these people are considered "proven innocent" in the minds of the public. See the Roberta Glass True Crime Report podcast, she covers The Memphis Three, Amanda Knox and many more.

[@annaross5739]

Why is he guilty ? Why would three young teens just suddenly murder young boys? With zero evidence..these white trash teens are not in anyway sophisticated enough, have no relationship and there was clear corruotiin, the police force was being investigated by the FBI

[@j.patrickserak8767]

Echols is so guilty. This is stupid af and disturbing. Oh by the way Echols had a very long history of killing neighborhood cats and wearing their skulls as necklaces.

[@mr.mclibtard5015]

Wearing their skulls as necklaces... sounds like an urban legend/ rumor

[@jspella1477]

@@mr.mclibtard5015OK, but he was known to kill animals - period. No urban legend, truth. The guy is deranged.

[@robertpena1890]

I was five and had access to a gun at home, knowing full well how to use them and when too. Parents let me walk home from school. Father taught me to be aware of my surroundings, to run, hide, and scream, and then defend myself without a gun when that fails. He taught my younger siblings the same. If I ever have children, I will do the same. Let them walk free when people are allowed to defend themselves fully.

[@haveyouflossedtoday]

My Dad also made me practice recalling people’s height, weight, hair color, color and descriptions of vehicles etc. And to notice and be able to verbalize identifying characteristics.

[@haveyouflossedtoday]

@@Fisher-ez2tz You gotta move outta those places. That's no way to live.

[@blockyorbits2376]

How are you people so easily fooled? Damien and the others did the crime. This isn't up for debate.

[@MK-ih6wp]

This has been one of the more interesting opinions of mine that has changed over the years. I used to believe he was wrongly imprisoned... these days I'm not so sure.

[@blockyorbits2376]

@@MK-ih6wp Look in to his conversations with his therapist, the court records, and his family situation for starters; or if you are lazy like I was, watch the video that blackpilled made about it on odyssey called Satanic Panic Edition, lays it out really good.

[@SlickBlackCadillac]

People just watched the propaganda documentaries. They don't have the will to read the evidence for themselves. I fell for the doc at first and believed them to be innocent for years. Now I am redpilled.

[@blockyorbits2376]

@Peend Read the previous comment for starters

[@badhatharriet]

The way he keeps saying that mentally challenged guy is weird af

[@chriscash782]

WOW. Didn't expect this. I like Damien a lot.

[@chriscash782]

@@villefere6968 He's innocent. That's why he is out of prison. BTW, go F*ck yourself.

[@aprox23]

Why didnt Tim or the girl bring up Jessie Misskelley multiple confessions?

[@joetaravella13]

bc he was interviewed for 14 hours without a parent or lawyer present with an IQ of 70. (also was wrestling with his school's wrestling team in another town during the time of the murders). that's why.

[@partlysunny5402]

@@joetaravella13 Not true

[@crazychase98]

​@joetaravellta13 that was just the first time he confesed

[@amandamassarone1233]

the confessions of a mentally challenged sixteen year old boy that they forced into him after questioning him for 14 hours with no lawyer, no parents and all he wanted to do was go home. they also showed him pictures of the deceased boys that traumatized him. jessie, with his iq, would have admitted to anything after that.

[@lucygoudie2089]

@@amandamassarone1233 yall really need to read the case files because none of this is true this is just what the hbo doco incorrectly reported lmao

[@HuggyBear2000]

Anyone who lives with a child, it is likely they will have hair fiber dna on that child. If I wear socks in the house, I’ll have every family members dna on my sock. Surface level questions not elaborated on. Psychic pressure…strange term to use.

[@WhatisReal11]

DNA evidence..... more like spells cast with LIES on minds of morons who have looked at the case themselves

[@lesliebrown1517]

Except the DNA wasn't on his own child's bindings.

[@MichelleLee-bg2bu]

It was on the other boys bindings, he was also known to be extremely physically abusive to his step son, as early as 3 years old, his own wife, now ex wife and her sister say he did it.

[@pommiebears]

His DNA was found on Michael Moores bindings, not Stevie Branch, who is his stepson.

[@Davidroylee]

These two are the worst interviewers

[@sarahscunnin1009]

How did I know he was gonna name Aleister Crowley as one his most influential ppl? Hmm...

[@AshleySmyth1212]

This dude is guilty and you just casually have him on your show. I can't stand Tim to be honest. He is highly irrational most of the time and dense.

[@nicksmith-chandler458]

So sorry to hear about your mental illness

[@Debra-k1f]

1st time in......I am of the opinion that Tim is not well versed on this case 🙄. I didn't know that anyone hasn't gotten wise to the grift?!

[@Featherfinder]

It never occurred to me that Echols and company might be guilty until I read Echols’ own book about “his ordeal”. But that book is so obviously dishonest that by the time I reached the end I figured I’d try to see if I was the only person who thought Echols was, at the very least, a lying as$&*le . I was astounded to find that there was always a mountain of evidence against the WM3, and against Echols in particular, regardless of them (incomprehensibly) being offered the Alford plea escape. Tim should do another episode where he has Ed Opperman and William Ramsey talk about this case to balance things out. I like Tim a lot but in all honesty his being taken in by the propaganda around this case has hurt his cred in my eyes.

[@chenierderrick]

Yes! I’m only here after listening to the William Ramsey podcast where him and Roberta glass were roasting this video. It’s so stinking obvious that the west Memphis three did it. It’s like Tim’s handlers got him in charge of brainwashing the younger generation into thinking these guys are innocent.

[@LiMortacciSuaSempre]

Something tells me Tim Fool there would never have neither Opperman nor Ramsey, Roberta Glass or anyone who actually studied the case. 😢

[@chenierderrick]

@@LiMortacciSuaSempre nope. They need to leave out fax so that it looks like they just got railroaded in the case and helps them play the sympathy angle.

[@dogguy8603]

Except the problem with the theory that they are guilty is that its based off the idea that it was a satanic ritual. Which is just nonsense, and even of they did do it, there is not enough evedence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that they are guilty, let alone to be executed.

[@gingeranagram2467]

There was literally not a shred of evidence against them. It was all incredibly circumstantial bullshit

[@rufustfirefly9545]

They were all guilty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@justinlee3191]

Good job asking the right questions🤘 Damian definitely put it all out there here.💪❤ ....and the fact that the guilty still hasn't been caught 😢😢😢

[@DankyDankenstein]

He’s guilty. Go read the court transcripts and quit believing what the television tells you.

[@amandamassarone1233]

@@DankyDankenstein he is not guilty. it has been proven their dna was no where near the crime scene. educate yourself on this case.

[@aloysiusdevadander19]

The were caught and then let go you in giving p3edo

[@nicholem1450]

having followed Damien's life and story for a long time, lmfao when he asks Damien "Are you religious?" Have you read any of his books?

[@realolivertwisted]

Curious - does he say anywhere that he’s J3wish?

[@etinarcadiaego5708]

It's a valid question, even if you know that Damien is an occultist (or, more fairly, a ceremonial magician). He believes in God, and in angels and demons. But he's not a Thelemite or anything like that.

[@amandamassarone1233]

because Damien himself does believe in god and things like angels and demons. he changed his name to Damien for father Damien.