THE CURSE OF H.H. HOLMES - Did the Hippach Family Suffer the Wrath of The Devil in the White City?

[@joannebailey7463]

I just watched your Video on the Hippach family. They definitely had a curse real or imagined their lives must have been filled with so much sadness. I have just finished reading the book by Erik Larson called The Devil in White City about H.H. Holmes and the story of the first World's Fair in Chicago. What a fantastic book! Secondly, my paternal grandfather also had a single ticket on the Titanic. He was going to America to find a job and a home before bringing his wife and children over. He was asked by the ticket agents if he would sell his single ticket to a business man who had an important business opportunity/ meeting in New York and needed a single ticket only. My grandfather (thankfully) sold his ticket and came over later and found a job in Hamilton Ontario. He brought my grandmother and couple children over. They went on to have nine children in total including my dad who was second youngest!

[@FacesoftheForgotten]

wow, what a story Joanne!!!!!!!!!

[@1sandra475]

Fate.

[@judyholdsworth7096]

Money can’t buy a long life or happiness. Many struggle with heavy burdens and are ill fated. RIP

[@TheEmeraldMenOfficial]

Do you know what ship took him over when he did go? I’m gonna guess Olympic: I feel that White Star would have taken care of him and changed his ticket

[@SherylandFam]

How horrible! Hope they are all resting in peace.

[@e-on2704]

I second that . 😇

[@victoriafinch660]

Sad story but, everybody's story should be told. As you told the bad things this family went through then you said about the Titanic! I broke and said to myself. I know they are all gone but Lord give this family and extra hug from the "Faces of the Forgotten Gang"!!!!!!

[@kimglass4851]

The story of HH Holmes has always fascinated me and I wouldnt be surprised if he had something to do with the families demise as Im sure he killed wayyyyy more than anyone ever knew!

[@catherinewyrobeck5388]

Read The Devil in the White City by Erik Larson. I researched the 1893 World's Fair and he was killing young women who came into the city for the Fair. Riveting story.

[@dm607]

@@catherinewyrobeck5388 I've never heard of him. So I'm off to do some research!

[@stephaniehippach5958]

This is my family. I’m a Hippach. I grew up with my great aunt telling me these stories.

[@FacesoftheForgotten]

wow, such an intriguing family legacy you have to treasure.

[@warrencroom7621]

Do u have any stories of Holmes and hippach

[@susanblauss1530]

Such a sad story, told by the master story teller.Wonder how that woman, the mother, ever survive losing all 3 sons..I cannot imagine the pain.Very interesting story, sounds like a curse to me.

[@cathyhashiguchi1785]

May the Hippach family RIP !!! You're not kidding about a possible curse... too much tragedy for one family to endure !!! Let's hope they found peace in Heaven !!!

[@lynnedanieli733]

Looks so beautiful covered in snow and squirrel Nutkin bouncing around. You're right its a crazy story. Must be Hippach curse.👿

[@susiecross3174]

This family just couldn't catch a break! If it weren't so tragic it could be a Soap Opera!💖

[@pennylayne5436]

When you are feeling bad about yourself or having bad luck just remember this family and count your blessings. ❤️

[@elizabethcochrane9015]

Exactly. Oh my lord

[@ohmeowzer1]

If they didn't have bad luck they would have no luck at all...omg how tragic..this is unbelievable what they went through,,,

[@samantharedden3906]

I called it lol as soon as you said they bought two tickets on guess what..I yelled out "Titanic."🤣 What a crazy sad story....as always thank you Ron for another excellent video!!

[@silentnight6682]

Me too. I just knew the moment he said Europe.

[@mariemorgan7759]

I remember the photograph of the mother,daughter,and son from a Titanic book,but I didn't know that the family had that many tragedies happen to them. Thanks for the story!

[@michaelpriest1833]

How sad 😭

[@bubblesangel555]

Ron, you can tell a story like few can! I'm glad the snow is done for the season, but this video brings back vivid memories.

[@johnnyvonmountbatten]

This poor family just couldn’t get a break in life another great history lesson RIP in paradise

[@e-on2704]

Absolutely.

[@debbiebutler3815]

Cemeteries look absolutely beautiful in the snow ❄️. I absolutely love ❤️ your videos ♥️♥️♥️🌹🌹🌹 Very tragic story about the family 😢😢

[@melanieiwasko4393]

Oh my! It just kept getting worse and worse for the hippach family. Rip 😞💔

[@melanieiwasko4393]

I just love when I get a notification that there's a new video from faces of the forgotten! Ron's videos just get better and better every time.

[@silentnight6682]

Having money gave them opportunities to go to nice places at home and abroad but what horrible bad luck. Must be a generational curse. No other explanation. ThanQ for sharing Ron.

[@vincemarshall5087]

You tell the most fascinating stories, hard to believe you've only been doing this for 7 months! May the Hippach family rest in peace. Such a sad story, but they are all together now.

[@deebreaux9467]

I sware i really hope & pray u get your own station! Cause you yell the stories juz so well. I know I'm hooked fa sure!

[@deebreaux9467]

Definitely believe in curses.. and believe this is one.

[@Betty-eh1jd]

Sad tale told by a master storyteller ! Bravo Ron, as always !

[@ohmeowzer1]

Ewww that hh Holmes guy was evil,,,makes you wonder if it was a curse. or something going on

[@largefamilylivin9629]

May they be resting peacefully 🙏🏻

[@debbiebutler3310]

Sad & tragic 😢 May the family Rest in Peace😢💖

[@NZSUMMERLADY]

New subscriber and I must say You are great at what you do. The stories, the content are always so interesting. You draw a person in, and that talent my friend, is a gift! Great channel I look forward to more! A big thumbs up from me in New Zealand!

[@paulrickson9796]

Another fascinating video, Ron. You never fail to tell a story in a compelling way. I would like to share a couple two or three things related to this story, if I may. Firstly, the Iroquois Theatre sat on the site of the present day Oriental Theatre in downtown Chicago. Secondly, that fire was the reason why theatres in the US were subsequently fitted with asbestos fire curtains. To protect the rest of the building and patrons from fires starting backstage like what occurred at the Iroquois. Thirdly, there is a theory held by numerous amateur sleuths that H.H. Holmes was also the serial killer known as Jack The Ripper. The evidence pointing in that direction is circumstantial, but...... Maybe there are at least a couple of balls I have thrown you that you might be interested in running with? :)

[@FacesoftheForgotten]

yes, thanks, heard the Ripper theory. Also, I talk a little about the fire in this episode also, one who escaped - kzbin.info/www/bejne/iHSsfKuYhrd1ndk

[@paulrickson9796]

@@FacesoftheForgotten Great! I will check it out!

[@maylonsowards998]

That’s so sad! That poor family went through a whole lot. Rest In Peace with lots of love!

[@christineconroy6409]

I do believe that some people are born under an unlucky star, and I do believe in curses. So sad this one.

[@natalieangelo54]

OMG TALK ABOUT A DARK CLOUD , THIS POOR FAMILY HAD BEEN CURSED , HOW HORRIBLE , HOW UTTERLY SAD WITH HEART BREAK , MAY ALL REST IN PEACE , 😥💔🙏🕊

[@vernabryant2894]

I love listening to your stories.They are so interesting.

[@vernabryant2894]

I told my daughter about your videos.She said she would check them out.

[@FacesoftheForgotten]

awe thanks Verna, more great people to join us is welcomed!!

[@Volaris27]

wow wow wow,,, so bizarre, one tragedy after another. Love your storytelling once again. thank you so much.. :)

[@SueGirling68]

Hi Ron, oh my how unlucky can one family get ?. That is just awful, I pray they are now at peace. Thank you for sharing, much love. xx 💖

[@Sumermak]

The devil in the white city is such a great book!

[@jimmorrison6357]

No I had never heard of HH Holmes....until now

[@patriciabogue6811]

I don’t know how I missed this one. I knew you were going to say they were on the Titanic!! I wonder if they sat around wondering what is going to happen next. Another great one!

[@bruceliggett8036]

Love your snowy days videos, so calming and relaxing, except when that dudes face appeared in that stone sphere, scared the hell outta me, kinda caught me off guard, lol

[@patricialenaburg6553]

I kid you not, while I watched the video you made about, Marilla Kenyon, I thought about HH Holmes. I guess he came to mind, because he killed so many young women, and Marilla was young. Yes, Holmes was one of the most despicable people who ever walked the earth. This poor family, it does make you think about their luck, hopefully God gave them peace at last. Another great one Ron, one more I haven't heard about.

[@tatianarizktaylor1818]

I Read the book on H.H Holmes. Crazy guy.. corridors leading to nowhere in that weird building of his. Garbage shutes leading to basements. Scary & creepy. There’s got to be a connection like some sort of curse for the Hippach family to suffer so much death.

[@nadiabrook7871]

Poor Hippach family!! Hope they're all resting in peace!! Thanks for sharing another AMAZING video, Ron!! Till next time!! Take care, and stay safe!! XXXX

[@texas_guy_85]

I feel bad for them, for all that sadness.

[@janethomason3915]

Wave after wave of bad luck, sadness, and tragedy! I always wonder what the family members thought as they lived through all of this. Your presentation and the enthusiasm sure add to this story! Thanks, Ron. And off to the library I go to find out more!

[@Tracywhited2]

Jeff Mudget’s book about HH Holmes is a great read. He’s a descendant. So sad what happened to this family. Evil truly walks the earth.

[@susandean2676]

I never heard of the guy, im going to check the book out.

[@Tracywhited2]

@@susandean2676 oh you should look him up for sure. He believe HH Homes could be Jack the Ripper too. He’s talked about it in many podcasts etc. very interesting guy.

[@magscovers8924]

@@Tracywhited2 Scary

[@Tracywhited2]

@@magscovers8924 very !

[@magscovers8924]

@@Tracywhited2 the one thing I have to say about the Jack the Ripper/HH Holmes theory though, is Jack the Ripper killed London’s poor. H.H. Holmes killed Chicago’s rich to get insurance money. It’s a different M.O. Also, the H. Holmes coming from England on a ship manifest could be someone different as Holmes was a common name at the time. Yes, it’s possible since the timeframe fits and he could have changed his M.O. once he got to the U.S. so Scotland Yard wouldn’t find him, but I think it’s very unlikely. I’m thinking the real reason Jack the Ripper’s crimes stopped is a family member of one of his victims found him and murdered him without telling anyone because let’s be real. What man wouldn’t want to kill a man like that? The Jack the Ripper letter had American Idioms was never confirmed to be from the Ripper and said Ripper can be assumed to be English, Scottish, Welsh, or Irish since if the theory is true, he started over there in that area. Does anyone know if HH Holmes had a noticeable British Isles related accent? That could tell us a lot. I think they have records of HH Holmes being American born.

[@wynonabieneman7985]

Can Not Even Imagine 😢😢

[@helenaopal]

Very inresting! Thanks Ron!

[@wholman8159]

everyone needs to read that book!!! my grandfather had recently immigrated from Sweden & was living in Chicago in late 1890s and attended the expo & I found this tidbit "Holmes’s great-great-grandson, American lawyer Jeff Mudgett, who recently discovered that he and Meghan Markle are eighth cousins. If that connection is correct, then it would mean that Markle, too, is related to Holmes."

[@virginiakeim]

It always seems so cold and lonely in a cemetary but the snow makes it seem much more so. Great video Ron!!

[@elizabethkujawinski3240]

Wow another great finding this cemetery that's only 5 to 6 blocks from my apartment. Gonna check it out when the weather day is mild. Thanks for this great story.. There's an area in the muselumn mid section where there's a stairway going up. It leads to section wall of urns placed in the wall of this room. You might have visited that last time. If not it a cool place and I believe there's some famous people of our early era in their private urns. It been so long since I've revisited that upper chamber area. Yet thanks for this Chicago story. You have that charamatic voice.

[@DeeTX-kk2xg]

How very tragic for the entire family. Another wonderful history lesson by you. Thank you.

[@davidjohn6276]

You are so amazing telling story's love watching your videos how sad about the family it is so sad and devastated rest in pease

[@nancyvolke237]

RIP to this family. This was really a curse, oh God was too much!!!

[@cherylcates3866]

Your videos don't last long enough. I'm a history freak you tell the best historical accounts I've ever heard. Thanks for your channel and your videos.

[@ohmeowzer1]

Just saw the Marilla video..getting caught up with your videos.....i worked this weekend..looking forward to another great story.....

[@kandicejanusz1829]

I didn't know about the Hippachs. Thank you. I'll have to look into that.

[@Brianthehistorynerd]

Geez how horrible. I have to agree it certainly does sound like a curse.

[@bobflynn2386]

If we forget the past we are doomed to repeat it. I really enjoy your videos. We must always remember

[@cathysummers7558]

That is one sad story and it first time I have heard about them. That wow about maybe a curse but if their faith was strong I think they would been safe. I think some things happen and we have no answers to understand. I hope they all are resting safe and once again I loved watching another great video. Thank you again Sir. 🙏😊

[@83thechaz]

My family, I believe, has a curse dating back to the 1800’s at least. What happened to them is happening to me, in a different form of course. What causes generational curses? How can one stop them. Did I do anything wrong? Feel bad for the family in this video. I pray god gives them what life never did. RIP

[@naomibotes3143]

Rebecca brown Unbroken curses Go and find that book.

[@rnp1785]

That was a weird story but a good one. If you’re looking for a peaceful place to go visit a cemetery from all the videos it’s seems like they’re 99% empty guess most people don’t want to be reminded about the place they all will end up one day no one will escape death. I just hope everyone gets to live a long life.

[@anskelder5994]

What a sad sad story.

[@Hello-ye2bi]

@Facesofthefirgotten- I had to read about HH Holmes in Art History. Every video outdoes the one before it. This coverage is incredible. Thank you for your dedication

[@bygoneyears4859]

Just discovered your channel and I have been binge watching your videos. Each are full of interesting life stories of the departed. Looking forward for more. Much appreciation to your valuable work and time.

[@karenmartinelli7107]

Just a side note- H.H. Holmes was buried in Yeadon PA, not far from Philadelphia. My grandfather is buried near him.

[@TippyPuddles]

OM, grew up in Darby, PA. Yeadon is a next door neighbor. Hello neighbor! My mother and family are in the Holly Cross Cemetery.

[@bradmagnuson6963]

If memory serves me right, they exhumed HH Holmes's grave, and found that it's not him who is buried there

[@Samanta-van-laar]

@@bradmagnuson6963 they did but it was him

[@bradmagnuson6963]

@@Samanta-van-laar not according to experts.

[@janetwentz3259]

Fascinating 🤨. Thank you.

[@irishgrammy]

Your channel is my fave, so glad I found it!!! I remember going to the cemetery to pay respects with my grandmother as a child. Still love cemeteries, during the day!

[@kathyashton6182]

May they all rest in peace 💜🙏💙🙏💚🙏🧡 the snow looks so pure, beautiful 💙

[@ritashustitzky2934]

All that snow, thank goodness it is now spring. What a story, you always have so much information. You could write a book.

[@barbiefinn8127]

How sad sad 😞 may they all Rest In Peace geeesh

[@connieflores7362]

So so sad this happen to this family.

[@BobbyTheDogUSA]

Poor Hippach family. Very sad. And no, I never heard about the hotel guy. Tonight I will look him up. Thatnks for telling us.

[@michellesmith6554]

OMG saw this video pop up tried to cook and watch this at the same time and u won lol guess its pizza night

[@ohmeowzer1]

🤣 you have the best comment,,❤️

[@lisaedwards931]

Another amazing story I could watch your stories all day ❤️

[@LayneN135]

Interesting to note: Howard Hippach attended the Abbott School for Boys in Farmington, Maine from 1912-1914. After he passed away in October of 1914, his father Louis dedicated a new athletic field in his son’s honor for the Abbott School (the formal dedication was on June 5, 1916). Almost exactly a year and a half later on December 6, 1917 (same day as the Halifax Explosion) the dormitory of the school burned, the successful headmaster left the following year (the school closed for two years), and through the 1920s, it was very unsuccessful, closing around 1930. The only thing left of the Abbott School is Hippach Field, which now belongs to the town of Farmington.

[@CatzASMRnMore]

How tragic....seems like a CURSE to me..

[@melanieiwasko4393]

Probably just bad luck.

[@melanieiwasko4393]

They were lucky enough to survive the Titanic ⚓

[@susandean2676]

What a story! Sounds like a curse to me. I never heard about that fire? I love hearing these Chicago stories.. and the squirl appeared out of thin air? Had to be a ghost.. Nice capture 🤭

[@edwardkellogg1284]

A very sad chain of events that hit this family. May there souls rest in peace. I never heard about the dissection room in the hotel. Maybe a good video some day.

[@damianjackson9084]

I just love this channel the stories and the history are so intriguing

[@janisoconnor6881]

I read the book. He was an evil monster.

[@melaniewalbaum8344]

WOW!!!! What a story! For those of you who don't know who HH Holmes is....There are a few documentary's on here. I seriously believe this was a curse. Thanks for a great video and story!

[@corallewis3788]

Wow how did these families escape me?!? I never heard of any of them.. ty it was an interesting video..

[@marshachamberlain2968]

What do the spheres mean, if I might ask? There are quite a few here in West Central Illinois, but they are smaller.

[@wandawooten5807]

When you want to be a patron to your channel what is the difference between signing up thru Google or Facebook?

[@FacesoftheForgotten]

should be no difference...

[@bearyhot]

Your videos have just gotten better and better! I love watching them and frankly, I'm one to normally watch live streams! I just found out, in the wee hours of an Arizona morning, that you have Premieres on Sunday nights! I'm so excited and I'll try to find out the time that you stream, so I can join in! I've been binge watching select videos and I'm so impressed with your research of each story. I must say that your channel is quickly becoming one of my favorites on KZbin! Gosh, you're so talented in so many ways, it truly is astounding! Have a wonderful week ahead and I'm looking forward to binge watching again next weekend. This is better than ANY network television show in existence, that's for sure! Take care, beary

[@FacesoftheForgotten]

awesome, glad you will join us on Sundays now. well, just in time, this coming Sunday is just as intriguing. the crescendo of the Vermont adventure trip!

[@ann-louiselundstrom6559]

Thank You for a really heartbreaking story 💔. So tragic, but well told as usual!

[@chatita9527]

What a beautiful entrance to a cementary! Thank you for showing and uploading. Greetings from Berlin Germany ♥️🤗🇩🇪

[@magscovers8924]

Hi I love you’re channel, I love seeing the Chicago area and it’s history during quarantine. I live in NC now, but my dad grew up in Park Ridge, Illinois. My grandfather died when I was quite young. He’s buried at Town of Maine Cemetery and my grandmother always took me to “see” him when I was young. Later, his brother was buried next to him. They have some rather interesting old graves there including some murder victims including the Eicher family from Park Ridge. Someone sick guy lured a widow and her family to West Virginia and murdered them. Idk if you’ve seen this cemetery but I thought it might be up your alley because no doubt there are many unmarked graves there since it’s been used for 100s of years. We have a family plot, so if you do go there please blur anyone who is still alive. My grandmother, great aunt, and my uncle have stones but are still alive. Thanks.

[@FacesoftheForgotten]

I have that family in my notes, odd looking crew as I recall--- lol...ty.

[@dulcehajjar5826]

My favorite Channel 👏 I am ready for another story, Yes Sir ! Thanks 🤗

[@jillgross3968]

Tragic family story. I must say there is nothing more beautiful than a Chicago snow. I lived 2.5 hours south west of Chicago as a child and as an adult lived in Galena Il. for awhile. I live in Tennessee now, but still miss a midwestern snow. It makes everything look so magical. The cemetery looks beautiful with the snow falling, very peaceful.

[@melanieiwasko4393]

Hey Ron, thank goodness you are not related to Hugo Carlson! LMAO

[@bethshadid2087]

RIP Hippach family🙏💗🕊️. That was a good looking family....shame so much tragedy....but curses can only affect you if you believe in them.....just bad luck 😓. I've never heard the story of the hotel owner 🤔. Safe travels 💗🕊️

[@aliciabrewer9444]

I hope they are resting in peace. So much horrible bad luck this family went through.🕊🕊

[@elainekomara8555]

Evil is real.

[@Figgatella]

Oh my gosh, what a horrible story! That poor family! No one can tell it like you Ron! Hope they are resting in peace! Please everyone go subscribe and watch Hollywood Graveyard! It is excellent too! My other fav!

[@kathycarter1553]

Such a sad story for this Family and may they Rest In Peace. Thanks for sharing and have a great week.

[@supportyourtroopsathletes6460]

Gosh I wish I could be around snow again. I miss England and Colorado springs for the snow fall. This family had it bad all together.

[@hollychester1354]

I really enjoy your channel. Stay safe.🇨🇦

[@hellen__1]

What a tragic story. If you look good in the snow . You can see where the graves are

[@jayteadesigns]

Great tie-ins on this one! I don't know where you find the time to do so many!

[@karendarrigo2582]

When you said they booked passage on a boat, I knew Titanic. What unfortunate things happened to this family. I wonder if it was known that they had a connection to H.H. Holmes considering what that man did. Thanks again for another well told story. Very tragic.

[@patbowman6723]

What a heartbreaking life they all had. I'm surprised the mom or dad didn't commit suicide after their losses. Some families have it so hard, example the Kennedy's, I don't know how they lived through all the sadness. Great video, TY.