The CURSE of Ncuti Gatwa (Most Hated Doctor Who)

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@MackerelCat
@MackerelCat 5 ай бұрын
People want cleverly written sci fi, not badly written ideological messaging.
@ShamManTV
@ShamManTV 5 ай бұрын
I think the showrunners have forgot what show they're writing for.
@adamskyj69
@adamskyj69 5 ай бұрын
@@ShamManTV I think the showrunners are more interested in ESG points using DEI.
@TheFunkyJawa
@TheFunkyJawa 5 ай бұрын
I like Venusian Kung-fu as much as the next man, but it aint the early 70's anymore.
@professorakiba434
@professorakiba434 5 ай бұрын
Well if that is the case I suggest you not read 450 degrees Fahrenheit or Brave New World, or really stop liking Daleks (they do represent fascism) because Dot and Bubble was very good sci-fi on par with those two books. Also you know how much harder it is to write science fiction when the world you live in is science fiction. Remember the Terminator. Well its 2024 and we are watching AI rapidly take control of our world. Dot and Bubble. A very good mirror to how most people I know live their lives in social media. I've seen three people just last week walk across a car infested road while staring into their texting machine without even looking to make sure they should. There are deer where I live who have a better sense to look both ways before crossing. But its the issue of ideological messaging. Doctor Who at its core is built around ideological messaging. From its beginnings in 1963, the DNA of this show is Liberal. In the First Doctor's era, during the UnEarthly Child, Ian and Doctor promote a socialistic ideal of humanity when its said that "we can all make fire". How bout this. The Daleks who have "a dislike for the unlike". Sounds a bit like 2024 doesn't it. Now you can couch you're arguments around the messaging being cleverly written but it all comes down to the same thing. Its ideological messaging whether its the The Daleks, The Aztecs, The Keys of Marinus, Planet of Giants, The Romans, The Space Museum, Galaxy 4, Daleks Master Plan, The War Machines, The Tenth Planet, The Macra Terror, Tomb of the Cybermen, The Enemy of the World, The Dominators, The Mind of Evil, The War Games, The Silurians, The Sea Devils, Inferno, Colony in Space, The Curse of Peladon, The Mutants, The Green Death, Genesis of the Daleks, Robot, Terror of the Zygons, Planet of Evil, The Seeds of Doom, The Deadly Assassin, The Sun Makers, Underworld, City of Death, The Creature from the Pit, The Horns of Nimon, The Leisure Hive, Meglos, Warriors Gate, Kinda, Terminus, Frontios, Resurrection of the Daleks, The Twin Dilemma, Mark of the Rani, Revelation of the Daleks, Terror of the Vervoids, Paradise Towers, Dragonfire, The Happiness Patrol . . . and that is just some of the classic era stories. I haven't even started on the revival in 2005 (man there are so many stories there). The only way to get past the ideological messaging is to either remove all messaging from the show (which one can't because even absolute drivel has some kind of message, or institute the other ideology in its place so that the heroes of Doctor Who become all the bad guys we've been used to triumphing over the Doctor. Imagine the Daleks achieve the purification of the Universe. Something to see?
@Electrobolt913
@Electrobolt913 2 ай бұрын
The show always done that since 1963 from the start, you clearly haven’t watched it lmao
@braxxian
@braxxian 5 ай бұрын
The BBC are bad enough on the woke scale but combine them with modern Disney and you have a train wreck of epic proportions.
@ShamManTV
@ShamManTV 5 ай бұрын
Agreed. They’re placing their own political agenda before what the audience want. Doomed for failure.
@Diogo85
@Diogo85 28 күн бұрын
How is current Doctor Who woke?
@Diogo85
@Diogo85 28 күн бұрын
@@ShamManTV Not this crap again.
@milkhunter6317
@milkhunter6317 4 ай бұрын
Don't get me wrong, for me, Ncuti Gatwa may be a phenomenal actor in his other roles, but not for Doctor Who. I felt like he sexualized the character too much. I don't wanna see The Doctor grinding his hips when he sees a fine looking man and smiles lustfully at them
@colboy1fish
@colboy1fish 3 ай бұрын
You mention men, but Matt Smith didn't do any better when he got a bit too intrested in Clara. I feel the doctor just needs to stay an adventurous cowboy not intrested in romance.
@Wodenseyes
@Wodenseyes Ай бұрын
But you were totally fine with heterosexual people doing it
@RTaylor1505
@RTaylor1505 22 күн бұрын
@@colboy1fish you talking rubbish. Matt Smith did better than David Tennant did. Smith is one of the best Doctors in the show.
@colboy1fish
@colboy1fish 22 күн бұрын
@@RTaylor1505 I agree, the eleventh doctor is my favorite too. But you can't convince me "A mystery wrapped inside an enigma in a skirt that is a little too *tight*" was a good line.
@fakecrusader
@fakecrusader 5 ай бұрын
£100 million budget and 2 million viewers - is it really worth £50 to the viewers?
@ShamManTV
@ShamManTV 5 ай бұрын
At this moment in time, no. It's really not haha
@TheFunkyJawa
@TheFunkyJawa 5 ай бұрын
Worldwide on Disney+ is what matters now. I'm sure it's doing just fine.
@fastertrackcreative
@fastertrackcreative 2 ай бұрын
Just because someone ticks minority boxes doesn't automatically make them the best for the role, though they're also affected by the writing. I was hoping Gatwa's era would be an improvement but not really. There's the usual "you don't like x because racist/sexist/etc." type argument you get a lot which is just lazy.
@Goodiesfanful
@Goodiesfanful 2 ай бұрын
I reckon Gatwa is going to be remembered as the Orange Doctor, he wears that colour so much. And I’ve never seen a Doctor go through so many outfits. Is he going to have one that will be his trademark like the other Doctors?
@RTaylor1505
@RTaylor1505 22 күн бұрын
What he hated. I like him. lol This is why I try to stay away from things like this. The news and videos of people opinions. I don’t want to hear any of it. I rather just enjoy it. If I did watch things like this I won’t enjoy it.
@BaneHuntress
@BaneHuntress 5 ай бұрын
I have no problem with Ncuti, his acting is solid... now... I can wright a whole dissertation about plot sinkholes. What was with the semaphore? where was the Dr's Sonic screwdriver? Were were the children going? Man eating slugs can read?... WTF!... Every episode I've complained about "There's just something missing!"... and I figured it out, the ONLY thing it can be... Disney/American... it's like Disney take's the scripts, dips them in bleach, goes 'good enough' after taking the English out of it, till it's a dull sheet of paper that's was once a glorious oil painting covered in cig butts and crisp packets.
@ShamManTV
@ShamManTV 5 ай бұрын
Interesting take. I agree, Ncuti is a talented actor.. but the show's writing and direction has lost its way. Seems Disney's seal of approval takes precedence over audience satisfaction.
@BaneHuntress
@BaneHuntress 5 ай бұрын
@@ShamManTV There is just something that isnt there, now I know Disney is involved... It's that Rare 'English' feel that's gone... it didnt work with the "movie" and it's not really working now, but we choose to keep Paul McGann as a Doctor, cos he would have been amazing too. Another example would be 'Ghosts', also by the BBC, it's amazing, they are living in a heap, it's dirty, an old mess, that could be us... Then there is the American Ghosts-US, sterile, clean, unrelatable, kinda boring.
@LeviPennington-vv2kq
@LeviPennington-vv2kq Ай бұрын
@ShamManTV Ncuti does have a lot of acting talent. But he chooses a style and persona that is so repulsive his episodes are unwatchable
@owaindavies9971
@owaindavies9971 5 ай бұрын
What did you expect when the writer and the actors abuse the fans before theyve even aired an episode? They knew they were producing crap and blamed us for their lack of talent.
@ShamManTV
@ShamManTV 5 ай бұрын
Agreed. That was not a good look for them.
@owaindavies9971
@owaindavies9971 5 ай бұрын
@@ShamManTV it's infuriating when we all know how good a writer RTD really is.
@kuggacouragegx6093
@kuggacouragegx6093 5 ай бұрын
This is what I mean yall are just bigots. No one abused the fans, yall were never fans of the show. They didn't said a single thing before the show, yall were literally hating the show before it aired. Stfu
@TheFunkyJawa
@TheFunkyJawa 5 ай бұрын
They were abusing the already prepped haters. BIG difference.
@kuggacouragegx6093
@kuggacouragegx6093 5 ай бұрын
@@TheFunkyJawa what
@donmacneil547
@donmacneil547 4 ай бұрын
Christmas special showed that he is talented but the writing has killed off the audience.
@Woke_Invaders
@Woke_Invaders 4 ай бұрын
The Church of Woke ruins everything.
@jibroniuk3604
@jibroniuk3604 5 ай бұрын
Dr Who is a 1,000 year old Time Lord. Now Dr Who is a black, gay, camp, emotional time traveler. You expect people to love that kind of change????
@Neriadea
@Neriadea 5 ай бұрын
you say that as if you can't be black, gay, camp, emotional and also 1, 000 years old? i mean you can't. but you also can't be white, straight and unemotional and over 1, 000 years old. like your logic is just not working
@BaneHuntress
@BaneHuntress 5 ай бұрын
AHAHA, you're trying to tell me David Tennent wasn't as camp AF?... get back in your box, your bigotry is showing. XD
@CutePyro0
@CutePyro0 5 ай бұрын
@@BaneHuntress David Tennent is a married man to a women
@adamskyj69
@adamskyj69 5 ай бұрын
@@BaneHuntress I just think the stories are absolutely terrible and the showrunner plus those involved are pretending all who critique are either racist or some kind of phobic bigotry nuts and that is simply not true. Tennant 14 was camp, Tennant 10 not so much, though he did flirt with Jack in Season 3's Utopia.
@lemonwho9895
@lemonwho9895 5 ай бұрын
You do know the actors gay right not the doctor you silly goose your a smart man this was a mistake you made
@marq1609
@marq1609 5 ай бұрын
"Rainbow flag waving, skirt dancing doctor played by a gender driven activist" Holy shit man, you couldn't keep the facade up for 30 seconds? Would love to see how that "David Tennant is the most popular and could do no wrong" stance would change when you find out his stance on 'gender ideology'
@ShamManTV
@ShamManTV 5 ай бұрын
The issue isn't 'gender ideology'. As explained in the video, The Doctor can be whoever and whatever they want. It's the show forcing it in every episode without any context, which is the problem. The storylines have become secondary to 'the message' they're trying to get across. This is not a political show.. not everything has to be an education.
@marq1609
@marq1609 5 ай бұрын
@@ShamManTV “This is not a political show” Alright man 😂 Loved that reply as well, got all the buzzwords in there and the whole ‘it doesn’t matter who they are’ when it clearly does All you grifters are genuinely copy and paste I swear
@CutePyro0
@CutePyro0 5 ай бұрын
sorry they are calling it what it is. aas someone who is trans and been out as trans publically for the majority of my life nothing he has said here is offensive it is plain honest facts stop trying to defend something that is plain shit. Gaslighting doesn't work when people know the truth and the truth is RTD is a shit at writing stories right now
@TheFunkyJawa
@TheFunkyJawa 5 ай бұрын
@@ShamManTV Not everything is. Massive misconception and lack of understanding on your part.
@RobbieMartin-ku9mz
@RobbieMartin-ku9mz 5 ай бұрын
​@@ShamManTVthat's a kilt not a skirt
@Kiss_lynda
@Kiss_lynda 5 ай бұрын
Okay 🛑 just 🛑 This has nothing to do with his skin or that he’s gay. NOTHING….TO DO WITH HIS SKIN. At least not for many dr who fans. This has everything to do with RTD switching this character from one extreme to another. Even the female dr had more manly characteristics. The guy is not acting. The guy is just playing himself, he’s not doing anything like the previous doctors. RTD is 💯 to blame! RTD should have created him his own character in another show. But no, Russell took a beloved character and changed just to get his political messages out.
@kuggacouragegx6093
@kuggacouragegx6093 5 ай бұрын
Stfu cause u never watch doctor who. Yes each versions are literally different from each other that is the point. Also shut up. How is playing himself is bad? Also show proof. Also stupid Tom baker was playing himself as he was in the role. Stfu There isn't no political messages u are just racist
@CutePyro0
@CutePyro0 5 ай бұрын
as a trans person i can say this is exactly how i felt when watching this episode
@kuggacouragegx6093
@kuggacouragegx6093 5 ай бұрын
omg stf with that. Yet yall literally got so triggered over bill existing for being a black leabain. So stfu about Martha and jack cause yall weren't ok with those 2 either stupid there was reaction, Dr who, and review channels. Who aren't grifters or bigots like u are that are watching the show where yall never do at all. And good job at proving your racism and homophobia to pander to bunch of white men who don't think ppl that looks like u to have rights. Also stfu, tom baker was playing himself. Also so what if ncuti is playing himself as the doctor? That is literally the point of the role. The doctor isn't 1 personality thing What about his doctor is him just playing himself? Heck how tf that is a complaint? Also how do u know he is playing himself yet u never saw the show nor any of his episodes at all Also Tom baker literally stated he was playing himself. Ncuti is the doctor and have alot in common with the character. But u don't know anything about that cause u never saw the show. Also stupid doctor who have always been progressive, kr woke in your logic since the first Era of the show. Doctor who have always made no war but peace episodes and messages. Stfu U just proving the point u never saw the show. Then claiming it is good Sci fi, yet u know nothing about the show. But we all know what " we just want good Sci fi" means. U just want a straight white guy in it cause u need to pander to your white sugar daddy
@Thedarkknight27474
@Thedarkknight27474 5 ай бұрын
🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ this comment is dumb
@almighty7621
@almighty7621 5 ай бұрын
Tom Baker wasn't acting as the Doctor, he was just being him self. Not my words, it's his.
@leonroth3940
@leonroth3940 5 ай бұрын
I don‘t hate him, I don‘t care
@Face2East
@Face2East 5 ай бұрын
Weirdly I think RTD should have had the courage to give Ncuti the Xmas specials instead of reminding the viewers what it used to be like. That way they may have been able to iron out the criticisms, put a bit more meat on his character, clip off some of the unnecessary excesses, reduce the dressing-up indulgences. They could've use the post-special time to get heavier in post production and really put some decent improvements on the episodes. But instead the time and money got spent on a 4 month promotional global tour.
@ShamManTV
@ShamManTV 5 ай бұрын
Completely agree! The fact they used Tennant as a gimmick to lure in old fans, and then just sh!t all over them by turning The Doctor into a completely unrecognisable character, is laughable. I really can’t see where the budget has been spent, because it’s certainly not gone on these episodes. The basic lazy writing, the poor production value, and forced politics are destroying a once great shoe.
@PatriciaCoberly
@PatriciaCoberly 3 ай бұрын
I don't hate Ncuti, but I don't like the way he is being portrayed as The Doctor. His Doctor seems more like a fetish than a hero.
@DavidProv
@DavidProv 5 ай бұрын
I tell you what, this is the first I've heard of a majority of people hating Ncuti Gatwa.
@BaneHuntress
@BaneHuntress 5 ай бұрын
Yup, He acts his socks off... unlike Whittaker who cant act in anything.
@wkadalie
@wkadalie 5 ай бұрын
It's not that most of us hate him....most of us don't even watch Doctor who anymore.... we abandoned ship during the last doctors era.
@BaneHuntress
@BaneHuntress 5 ай бұрын
@@wkadalie I did too. I didnt like Whittaker BEFORE she was Dr Who... but again with that. the writer needed taking out back and given his final rights. :S... but I wanted to give the new guy a go, I like him, I am not liking the sterile writing >_
@wkadalie
@wkadalie 5 ай бұрын
@@BaneHuntress The writing has been a big problem since Capaldi. Even if he was great.
@kuggacouragegx6093
@kuggacouragegx6093 5 ай бұрын
@@BaneHuntress dude stfu she can act. U are just a bigot
@dichavadortv
@dichavadortv 3 ай бұрын
Am gay activist, and i hater all this ideological messaging in all kind of tv show or movie . But special on doctor who, cause is to explicit unnecessary
@ogtobi8547
@ogtobi8547 Ай бұрын
The problem isn’t that he’s gay or black it’s that he makes that his ONLY personality. Bro only ever talks about his gay blackness. Pisses me off we’ll probably never have another black doctor because of him.
@baron8463
@baron8463 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing I have only watched up to season 13 kinda curious to play catch up now maybe, or I will just start over from the 2005 reboot. Also just wanted too share some thoughts as well. I always thought the doctor was asexual, it never really comes up in reference to The Doctor. He has companions not lovers or even friends, so people he cares about deeply in a platonic way was how I seem to remember it. I thought they kept that with season 13 but might have changed more after 13. Also something that you failed to think about is that I do not think Doctor Who fans are that stodgy so to speak. If you look back at one of the most popular characters in the show Captain Jack was bisexual or alien sexual I seem to remember them joking he would do anyone or anything, and he got his own spin off show and no body cared it did rather well if I remember correctly. Instead of messing with Doctor Who's core maybe a spin off of the show would have been a better way to introduce a new Disney Show. So it seems like that is not the issue as much the quality of the story telling. But Why take a character that is about as asexual as you can get and inject sex into their character your are going to alienate the fans, and not gain a new audience. It seems like Disney just wants to throw money to woke creators but only with existing IP. This seems like that really bad American version of inspector Space Time from Community.
@milkhunter6317
@milkhunter6317 4 ай бұрын
Rowan Atkinson did a better job at being The Doctor. It may have been a comedy skit, but I actually felt the intellect and charm of The Doctor from his outstanding performance
@Sam-zu5mr
@Sam-zu5mr 5 ай бұрын
I think, it needs cancelling altogether. To be resurrected in the future by a show runner that just wants to make great drama. At the moment all thats happening is the show is losing its core fanbase. Such a shame.
@kuggacouragegx6093
@kuggacouragegx6093 5 ай бұрын
Stfu yall don't even watch the show. It isn't losing their core fanbade nor anyone. Cause yall weren't ever their core nor part of the fanbase
@xOLD-MAN-GAMINGx
@xOLD-MAN-GAMINGx 5 ай бұрын
@@kuggacouragegx6093 It's fucked, the ratings don't lie WORST ever!!!
@cyanyde6724
@cyanyde6724 5 ай бұрын
I have watched since I was a kid. The 4th doctor was my first and I'm still here. Any "core fan" knows that every doctor has growing pains, especially in their first season. My initial thoughts are that he's fitting into the character quite well. I just wish they weren't doing multiple "Doctor lite" episodes in his first season.
@kuggacouragegx6093
@kuggacouragegx6093 5 ай бұрын
@@cyanyde6724 true. Every version knows the growing pains to be uncomfortable for seeing a new lead. Heck Patrick dealt with this himself and so did Peter too. Heck same for David tennant where ppl had doubts on him Also true and that is a legit valid criticism The doctor lite stuff u can make an argument for sure, but I think we kinda need that cause not every episode should be about the doctor or something. I think it is nice to say it from an outsider pov instead But we only got 2 doctor lite episodes so far which are wel received too.
@kuggacouragegx6093
@kuggacouragegx6093 5 ай бұрын
@@xOLD-MAN-GAMINGx stupid no it isn't and the rating don't lie, correct but that isn't them saying the show is failing, ppl are leaving or hating the show for reasons at all It just shows that someppl wants to watch it at midnight. But rather on stream Which they are doing. Also those are the over night views, meaning it is still doing good. Also stfu it isnt the worse overall
@rare437
@rare437 5 ай бұрын
Yeah no. Gatwa might not be the most popular doctor right now, but Jodie Whittaker was far, FAR more hated. You couldn't go anywhere online without someone calling her and her era the worst and how they killed Doctor Who. There was sheer rage and anger when people critized her and Chibnall. With Gatwa, people either say "He's not very Doctor-like" which I can agree to, to some extent, or homophobic idiots who don't like the fact he's gay.
@Kartzchen
@Kartzchen 13 күн бұрын
Agreed. There's strange homophobic vibes from people. If David Tenant was doing the same exact thing with a female, no one would complain. I find this a fine experience to watch. And, Jody was terrible. Thank God for Ncuti.
@donmacneil547
@donmacneil547 4 ай бұрын
Don't need to HATE anyone. He is an obviously talented actor but the writing is agenda driven, virtue signalling and has viewers switching off.
@Diogo85
@Diogo85 28 күн бұрын
Nah.
@johnw8578
@johnw8578 5 ай бұрын
I now know why Capaldi left the show.
@kuggacouragegx6093
@kuggacouragegx6093 5 ай бұрын
No u don't. U are just a bigot. Peter isnt
@somerandomyoutubeaccount5895
@somerandomyoutubeaccount5895 5 ай бұрын
Actually he wanted to be on the show for longer if you read his interviews around his departure.
@nurbxam8591
@nurbxam8591 5 ай бұрын
@@somerandomyoutubeaccount5895 john just got owned lol
@Arcadi4.44
@Arcadi4.44 5 ай бұрын
Shows the bad decisions the showrunners make now. All they did was kill their ratings​@@somerandomyoutubeaccount5895
@DireW0lf0
@DireW0lf0 5 ай бұрын
Capaldi was a good actor as was Jodie Whittaker, but I stopped watching half way through the Capaldi era as the writing was getting really bad bringing more identity politics into the stories. I tried again with the first few Whittaker episodes but the writing was worse (poor woman really didn't have anything to work with to make it any better), all stories I saw revolved around the fact she was female and the essence of "The Dr" was lost even though Jodie tried her best! So a new Dr was to appear and Tenant was back, so I watched the two Tenant episodes and the first Gatwa episode, and I couldn't believe it had actually gotten worse, even Tenant couldn't survive the new scripts which were now "The Message" first and story a distant after thought! And so again I have nope'd out! (As advised by Gatwa). Has anyone noticed how nice grass feels? As an addition! I was watching Dr Who since Patrick Troughton, and have seen some William Hartnell episodes and films, so I think I can claim Dr Who fan credentials!
@16shogunelitegreen
@16shogunelitegreen 5 ай бұрын
I prefer Ncuti Gatwa over Jodie Whittaker
@CptnWolfe
@CptnWolfe 16 күн бұрын
I feel like Colin Baker is still the most hated doctor. Tell me another doctor who nearly strangled their companion to death
@heronoverdose
@heronoverdose 5 ай бұрын
Can't they just make a good show man
@ShamManTV
@ShamManTV 5 ай бұрын
Apparently not 😥
@TheFunkyJawa
@TheFunkyJawa 5 ай бұрын
@@ShamManTV Well you can't make a good channel either.
@rykerrobinson4479
@rykerrobinson4479 5 ай бұрын
​@@TheFunkyJawa agree
@Woke_Invaders
@Woke_Invaders 4 ай бұрын
​@@TheFunkyJawaAnd yet he has more views than the excrement that is Dr. Who.
@TheFunkyJawa
@TheFunkyJawa 4 ай бұрын
@@Woke_Invaders Excuse me for yawning.
@DeusLucifer
@DeusLucifer 29 күн бұрын
Nuti is by far the worst doctor way out beating jodi
@RTaylor1505
@RTaylor1505 22 күн бұрын
He not the worst. David Tennant the worst Doctor out of them all
@mattthesilent777RED
@mattthesilent777RED 5 ай бұрын
I once cast Yasmin Finney as the Doctor, (even if I've only done one series for her) and I managed to make her a good Doctor
@16shogunelitegreen
@16shogunelitegreen 5 ай бұрын
A female Doctor?
@mattthesilent777RED
@mattthesilent777RED 5 ай бұрын
@@16shogunelitegreen Yeah. It was a universe where the Doctor was instead a female character all the time
@fastertrackcreative
@fastertrackcreative 2 ай бұрын
What do you mean you cast her?
@mattthesilent777RED
@mattthesilent777RED 2 ай бұрын
@@fastertrackcreative For a project
@cyanyde6724
@cyanyde6724 5 ай бұрын
Ncuti Gatwa is fine. What are you talking about?
@CutePyro0
@CutePyro0 5 ай бұрын
i don't like his acting and most fans don't hence the 2 million viewers compared to the normal 10 million during the 10th doctors episodes
@cyanyde6724
@cyanyde6724 5 ай бұрын
@@CutePyro0 What is wrong with his acting? Are you homophobic? Racist?No? Then what is the problem? Do you base all your decisions on what others think?
@TheFunkyJawa
@TheFunkyJawa 5 ай бұрын
@@CutePyro0 Different times. It's still top 10 in the UK every week. In the late 80s it was scraping in the top 100.
@CutePyro0
@CutePyro0 5 ай бұрын
@@TheFunkyJawa it's not doing good lets be honest it's being beaten on disney+ by a show that's only getting 88K views u can keep trying to gaslight that DR who is fine but we know it is not.
@xsm5525
@xsm5525 5 ай бұрын
he's no where near the top 5 doctors but 'hated'? bit extreme isn't it?
@wkadalie
@wkadalie 5 ай бұрын
Hated implies most of us still watch. We mainly hate what Doctor who has become. Even if he was a white guy....the show would be bad.. it's the writing.
@CutePyro0
@CutePyro0 5 ай бұрын
@@wkadalie no one gives a shit the doctor is black
@kuggacouragegx6093
@kuggacouragegx6093 5 ай бұрын
@@wkadalie the showmisnt bad nor the writing is either. Stop reaching
@Kartzchen
@Kartzchen 13 күн бұрын
When people are using the word hate, it actually shows weakness of their character. These people do not know what hate is therefore us it without much thought. Maybe just not able to understand deep feelings. And, in fact if they do actually waste their HATE on this are just ugly. Hate is not a word that should be used easily. It is an expression used on deep feelings toward a person deserving of terrible retribution. This is a feeling that ruminates and drags down a person's soul into turmoil. I hope you truly never learn what hate is or does in real life. Maybe use the word dislike.
@nigelwalker6103
@nigelwalker6103 Ай бұрын
I'm not homophobic or racist. I liked Jo Martin's a Captain Jack. It doesn't bother to me if a gay actor plays the Doctor, but in my opinion, the Doctor himself shouldn't be gay or straight. The series isn't about who fancies who. I actually preferred it when the Doctor wasn't interested in romance, like in the first 26 years of the series. For me I just want good Sci fi adventures. Good scripts with some interesting ideas. Is that too much to ask? Yes you can delve into issues like racism etc. Classic Who did, but the message was usually woven into the story and not the whole point of the story. There's no point pushing a message if the only people watching are the people who already think that way. Produce a great series that appeals to the majority and have subtle messages here or there as they used to do. You'll end up reaching a bigger audience.
@Kartzchen
@Kartzchen 13 күн бұрын
The ultra-preaching female doctor is gone, grateful. D. Tennant was also flirty and Smith. For some reason, Ncuti does not bother me at all. The story is good. The acting is good. I do not understand why there is so much criticism. When I watch this show I intend to just let it happen because I want time to let my mind enjoy a story. The fact that so many people are watching to criticize is concerning about our society in general. The female doctor was unwatchable because there was no joy in preachy politics. This one could easily be corrected. Ncuti is a good character, interesting and if too sexualized can easily scaled back. In the world we meet many bold characters and some are gay. Some are young and passionate, therefore, it is not necessary to criticize so harshly for a show that has provided great acting and a fun ride. It is lost on me that we could have man and woman kiss, but not man and man. Our younger generations are also excepting and find this natural. What age groups are finding this so bothersome? The one thing that should never should have happened is Disney.
@addrickstich6385
@addrickstich6385 Ай бұрын
Maybe the most ignored but not the most hated, he actually cared about the show, even if dei was involved. That being said Jody was the worst and hands down was a trash doctor.
@paulhammond6978
@paulhammond6978 5 ай бұрын
Your agenda is showing here, buddy.
@kuggacouragegx6093
@kuggacouragegx6093 5 ай бұрын
Fact
@MeAndMyFriendBovineTapeworm
@MeAndMyFriendBovineTapeworm 5 ай бұрын
Saying it like it's a bad thing.
@kuggacouragegx6093
@kuggacouragegx6093 5 ай бұрын
@@MeAndMyFriendBovineTapeworm so u cry about others pushing an agenda when they aren't. Yet admit that yall are pushing an agenda and think it is fine but crying about ppl not following your agenda🤦‍♂️
@MeAndMyFriendBovineTapeworm
@MeAndMyFriendBovineTapeworm 5 ай бұрын
@@kuggacouragegx6093 Making a lot of assumptions there, buddy. If a guy presents his opinion loud and clear, you can quickly decide if he's worth your time and attention. It's convenient.
@PeterCamberwick
@PeterCamberwick 5 ай бұрын
@@kuggacouragegx6093 Nobody's crying chap, apart from the Doctor, in almost every episode.
@TheFunkyJawa
@TheFunkyJawa 5 ай бұрын
Same shit, different channel.
@ShamManTV
@ShamManTV 5 ай бұрын
If a lot of people share the same observation, there may be some truth in it. Just a thought.
@CutePyro0
@CutePyro0 5 ай бұрын
not our issue the fans are all saying the same thing maybe RTD and doctor who should listen
@TheFunkyJawa
@TheFunkyJawa 5 ай бұрын
@@CutePyro0 But the fans are not. You been to gallfreybase? A true fan site. There's been a huge upward swing in appreciation.
@AlexKennedy1999
@AlexKennedy1999 4 ай бұрын
Smith played energetic perfectly. When Gatwa tries it, it's just annoying. He was decent when on the mine in Boom (bless Moffat), but other than it's been awful. Did he win a BAFTA for playing himself in Sex Ed? The Doctor still being into women after becoming one, made sense- he was over 2,000 years old. It'd be weird if he had instantly changed. Him magically loving men an hour after RTD came back, does not make sense. If RTD wanted to create his own fan-fiction between him and the Doctor, he could've done so back in 2008.
@grey_guy_cris_61
@grey_guy_cris_61 4 ай бұрын
THEY SHOULD END WHO NOW OR JUST PASS IT ON TO DISNEY BUT NOT IN UK-EMBARRASSING!!!!!
@MorseDempsey-s4k
@MorseDempsey-s4k Ай бұрын
Clark Patricia Wilson Brian Allen Charles
@Freezer28528
@Freezer28528 5 ай бұрын
He's not the most hated Doctor at all. In fact, the most hated Doctors were Colin Baker and Peter Capaldi, but those two became cult favourites after their eras ended. Jodie Whitacker's era gets a bad rap because of the flawed direction and writing. Ncuti has been very well received since his most recent episode "Dot and Bubble" ( well, it's his most recent episode as of writing this comment ) and the only people who " hate him" are bigoted idiots.
@ShamManTV
@ShamManTV 5 ай бұрын
He’s been “very well received” since an episode came out… 30 hours ago? 😂 Ncuti Gatwa is too busy playing the character of Ncuti Gatwa, than the role he’s been hired to play. While all the other actors had echoes of one clearly defined character, that seems to have got lost this season. Not every episode needs to be a war-and-peace political message.. let’s get back to fun sci-fi storytelling
@Freezer28528
@Freezer28528 5 ай бұрын
@ShamManTV Dude, that scene at the end of Dot and Bubble, the scene that everyone loves, was one of the first scenes he filmed. And about Ncuti playing himself? Well that's exactly what the legendary Tom Baker did. He was just playing Tom, and because of that he became the most memorable Doctor of the original run. Ncuti could become memorable too if it weren't for muddle brained people like you who can't get their facts right.
@Freezer28528
@Freezer28528 5 ай бұрын
@ShamManTV And bro, Space Babies was fun Sci fi storytelling. And that episode is dogcrap. And if the show was just always fun Sci fi storytelling, or if any show was just "fun Sci fi storytelling" the show wouldn't be around. Had Doctor who never had political themes and though provoking episodes amongst other themes, the show would be dead like it was in the 90s.
@MatthewCYN15
@MatthewCYN15 5 ай бұрын
​@ShamManTV yeah, you don't even know the show. And frankly, character wise, all the actors who played the Doctor had their own charm and charisma as the Doctor.
@TheGeoXWar
@TheGeoXWar 5 ай бұрын
Peter Capaldi wasn’t a hated doctor. That’s 13
@Pooter-it4yg
@Pooter-it4yg 4 ай бұрын
I object to your childish hyperbolic use of the word "hate". It makes for emotive clicks I'm sure but that's a very tawdry rationale. I think it's fair to say that a lot of viewers - even most - really don't like what's been done recently. Some may even not like writers and cast as a result of their personal pronouncements. But if you've ever had anything to do with showbiz, you know that self importance and witlessness come with the territory. Still I think you'll struggle to find anyone who, hand on heart, seriously actually hates anything or anyone. My sadness is that this show has needlessly become a battleground. To be fair, neither producers nor viewers are blameless in this but to be equally fair, the choice to bring it to this has been a conscious one on the part of the showrunners. They do actually bear the lion's share of the responsibility. To pre-empt any bleating about how the show's always been political - I know. I'd suggest better than most in fact, since I have lived experience of political and social concerns from the '70s onwards. But it's never been so flagrantly solely or even primarily about that. I think recent showrunners have lacked the sophistication of sensibility that their predecessors had and, perhaps worse and insultingly, seem to presume the audience does as well. This is why - with over 50 years under my belt - I find myself really not liking most of what's been done recently. And frankly I'm only still watching out of morbid curiosity but I don't hate. Sadly - again, my emotional response is sadness - what used to be an interesting and challenging adventure playground has been turned into a combat zone. And imo for no good reason whatsoever.
@ElijahintheTardis
@ElijahintheTardis 5 ай бұрын
Yeah no. Ncuti era so far is great! I’ll be the first to admit if I felt there was an agenda. So far it’s just felt like a good show. People don’t want to give it a chance and unfortunately those who do, stop at space babies…
@redfieldblair
@redfieldblair 5 ай бұрын
It could go either way. Space Babies is worse regarded than Fear Her or Sleep No More, it wasn't just bad - it was season 24 horrible. Infact I'd say the first 3 episodes were all pretty painful. But that said fans aren't being unfair - Boom got good scores from fans (and I loved it), and 73 yards got a bizarre free pass on basically being Blink without the plot. I love the atmosphere but that shouldn't be trending at 8.4 on IMDB. So fans are giving it a chance What I miss, and this is more down to having almost every episode by RTD with no guest writers (even NuWho series 1 all the great episodes were guest written), is the clever resolutions to the episodes - especially those which just seem to shrug and say "magic, innit".
@adamskyj69
@adamskyj69 5 ай бұрын
The viewing figures and audience appreciation figures tend to disagree with your claim of seeing agendas and calling them out......
@CutePyro0
@CutePyro0 5 ай бұрын
the show is shit stop trying to defend it people in hundreds of thousands are calling it what it is and that is "SHIT"
@mattthesilent777RED
@mattthesilent777RED 5 ай бұрын
No one can like Jodie, Tennant 2 or Gatwa, they aren't canon
@benjiradebe3329
@benjiradebe3329 5 ай бұрын
Im glad that Doctor Who is crap now. they ruined it with Jody W & now this. As an old doctor who fan. im out!!! Disney's message can f off.
@chaosiscoming9184
@chaosiscoming9184 5 ай бұрын
U don't need to tell us you're leaving as if we care :/
@CutePyro0
@CutePyro0 5 ай бұрын
@@chaosiscoming9184 well u should because without any fans this show will be cancelled
@cyanyde6724
@cyanyde6724 5 ай бұрын
@@CutePyro0 I'm still a fan. Don't let the TARDIS door hit you on the way out.
@Revan983
@Revan983 5 ай бұрын
You're not really a DW fan if you don't like The Doctor's message: Never cruel or Cowardly.
@chaosiscoming9184
@chaosiscoming9184 5 ай бұрын
@@Revan983 what LMAO We ain't fans cos the episodes are terrible writing xD and Now the doctor is a cry baby in every epiosde lol. Bring back Jodie
@JabelldiMarco
@JabelldiMarco 5 ай бұрын
...he's simply not a good actor and gets absurd directions. The characterizations he can play just don't include a super-intelligent millennia old know-it-all, seen-it-all, barely approachable alien with the prime objective of saving mankind. (Can he play anything but himself?).
@Doctor179
@Doctor179 5 ай бұрын
I want to know where the money gone ?
@ShamManTV
@ShamManTV 5 ай бұрын
Yes, exactly! 👀 Where have they blown all this budget?!
@Doctor179
@Doctor179 5 ай бұрын
@@ShamManTV adds and pocket it, jokes aside it looks the same with less episodes so I honestly don't know sus isn't it?
@raven_canopy8195
@raven_canopy8195 5 ай бұрын
Im bigging to want the women Doctor back
@davidthomas3826
@davidthomas3826 5 ай бұрын
Nice video. You summed up the demise of Dr Who very nicely
@kuggacouragegx6093
@kuggacouragegx6093 5 ай бұрын
No he didnt
@ShamManTV
@ShamManTV 5 ай бұрын
Thanks David 😊 I love this show and am sad to see the state it’s in, but this does feel like the final nail in coffin 😓
@kuggacouragegx6093
@kuggacouragegx6093 5 ай бұрын
@@ShamManTV dude stfu andnstop lying bro. U don't love the show at all. U were never a fan of it nor watched it. Stop
@PeterCamberwick
@PeterCamberwick 5 ай бұрын
@@kuggacouragegx6093 Ah, but he did though.
@kuggacouragegx6093
@kuggacouragegx6093 5 ай бұрын
@@PeterCamberwick no he didn't dummy
@nurbxam8591
@nurbxam8591 5 ай бұрын
thing is with the live viewership numbers the show drops an hour sooner on Disney+ all the long time fans of dw that ive seen have said they love the new series and all but space babies have become one of my favorites. about the "agenda" thing, dont claim its Disney i mean Disney is shit dont get me wrong but two time show runner rtd is gay so if anything its him. Disney has no control over dw dont say its Disney (btw i have nothing against gay people im bi myself:p)
@adamskyj69
@adamskyj69 5 ай бұрын
EH? These are UK viewing figures and UK Disney + does not even have the rights so it isn't on their platform here. It is available worldwide at the same time, but in UK is on BBC iPlayer only. The figures are tragic and since Ncuti's Christmas special, it has lost half its viewer count! No matter how this is spun by the BBC (and fans trying to blame Disney viewing for declined numbers when not even available in UK), it doesn't hide the reality, that the audience appreciation score and viewer counts have both plummeted. I only know a couple of long time fans who are satisfied, the majority I have spoken to are cringing at the terrible story lines.
@donatist59
@donatist59 5 ай бұрын
I've watched Who since 1980. I was a huge Torchwood fan. I hate this new season. It's unwatchable and it's not Doctor Who.
@nurbxam8591
@nurbxam8591 5 ай бұрын
@@adamskyj69 dude the British could just use a vpn??? like
@adamskyj69
@adamskyj69 5 ай бұрын
@@nurbxam8591 Dude, I am British, why would I or any other Brit living in UK use a VPN to watch BBC content via Disney + platform when we have direct and immediate access to the show using BBC iPlayer? Our iPlayer does not even need a credit card or subscription, just our residential address. Quite frankly, you're grasping at straws to inflate the dire viewing figures and its laughable.
@adamskyj69
@adamskyj69 5 ай бұрын
@@nurbxam8591 I'm a Brit and live in the UK - why would I (or any other Brit living in UK) feel the need to use a VPN to to then use Disney + to watch a program I can view quicker from the BBC iPlayer app? Even if some here did this, it is a tiny fraction, the whole scenario just doesn't make sense (to make more obstacles to view). Sorry but you're just trying to make excuses for the declining numbers.
@Revan983
@Revan983 5 ай бұрын
"Bad writing is causing people to leave early" I wish it would, then we'd no longer have to deal with racist bigots who don't like DW purely because it's inclusive. Oh, and blaming said bigotry on bad writing. Seriously that excuse is getting pretty old...
@FreeTheDonbas
@FreeTheDonbas 5 ай бұрын
People hated Casanova at first. Nu-hu has always had poor story-telling & forced politics. Capaldi had the lowest viewing figures, percentage-wise. "Forced inclusiveness" is the only thing keeping this show afloat. "White mediocrity" a perfect description of Ncuti's 5 predecessors. None of them were right for the role. It's like they just picked someone at random.
@LuciusFrederica
@LuciusFrederica Ай бұрын
Taylor Anthony Hall Lisa Brown Margaret
@Electrobolt913
@Electrobolt913 2 ай бұрын
Imagine commenting on DW related posts on social media by other just to get people to watch this poorly made video
@grey_guy_cris_61
@grey_guy_cris_61 4 ай бұрын
My NEW Doctor Would Be Kris Marshall, Keep The Character Eccentric And Dressed Like ALL Classes WHOs NOT Contemporary Like Christopher Eccleston And David Tennant, And STOP Changing EVERY Episode!!!
@grey_guy_cris_61
@grey_guy_cris_61 4 ай бұрын
DOCTOR WHO R.I.P.
@darkthirty7855
@darkthirty7855 5 ай бұрын
Is ShamManTV walking away from Doctor Who? Or is he going to continue to hate watch and the hate post in order to cackle (please his followers)? Since the episode is about cognitive dissonance, I suppose it makes sense that the measure of cognitive dissonance here is so generous.
@kuggacouragegx6093
@kuggacouragegx6093 5 ай бұрын
He never saw the show at all He is just jumping on the racist and homophobic hate train Why u think he went out of his way to misrepresenting what ncuti talked about in the interview where he addressed a real racist issue that still exist and this channel is proving his point by trying to pander to those same racists. Also how he tries to argue that his takes about touching grass is a bad thing where he have the right to free speech and to defend himself from the hate
@Arcadi4.44
@Arcadi4.44 5 ай бұрын
God you smoothbrains. Get this through your dense skulls. I loved torchwood, it was written so well, even miracle day was better than season 1 of dr who, it's the gayest show ever, and I'm mixed race and I can tell you that dr who is now a shit show. Cope with the fact you have bad taste.​@kuggacouragegx6093
@adamskyj69
@adamskyj69 5 ай бұрын
Are you going to walk away from ShamManTV's channel? Or are you going to continue bitching with insults (to please those in your own bubble or troll). Ironic that the latest episode is you claim about "cognitive dissonance", when this is a psychological phenomenon that occurs where a person holds two contradictory beliefs at the same time - The episode attacked rich people - bravo, RTD the great socialist who hates rich folk, but then is extremely rich himself......
@adamskyj69
@adamskyj69 5 ай бұрын
@@kuggacouragegx6093Misrepresenting what Ncuti said, err not quite, he seems to think (just like most of the gay men in this production) that any detractor from him or the new series is homophobic or racist - just like YOU have. Hate comes from both sides on this debate, not just one side. You, he or anyone else have any proof any of the critcism is racist or homophobic, there just suitable tag names to try to silence critique. Quick to point and label any micro agressions seen and yet they demonstrate the exact same trait themselves!
@kuggacouragegx6093
@kuggacouragegx6093 5 ай бұрын
@@adamskyj69 yet u are the racists little hating on the show cause someone isn't a striagjt white guy as the lead. Which is yall literally b**ching with insult, homophobic and racist remarks, in your own bubble and how this guy is trying to pander to ppl like yall. Wow stupid u didn't watch the episode at all Also never watched the show either nor know anything about rtd. He never claimed to be a socialist and u don't have to be one to say that rich ppl suck. Also the episode wasn't about rich ppl are evil. Just stfu
@evildeed90s
@evildeed90s 5 ай бұрын
viewership has been higher than ever with him dont know where you people are getting your research and statistics from your just click bating just to get views
@ShamManTV
@ShamManTV 5 ай бұрын
These are the lowest ratings of NuWho since 2005 (both for overnight and consolidated viewing figures)... Not sure where you're getting your info from. You can have an opinion, fair enough, but the stats don't lie.
@evildeed90s
@evildeed90s 5 ай бұрын
@@ShamManTV lies
@stephengray1344
@stephengray1344 5 ай бұрын
@@evildeed90s If you think he's lying about the stats, why don't you provide the correct stats (and source)? Just saying that its lies isn't going to convince anybody that those numbers (which are the same as lots of other people are quoting) are wrong. You can argue about the accuracy of the figures (you'd expect the BBC viewing figures to be a bit lower than usual now the show is also available via Disney+, since some Brits will watch it there instead), But it's quite odd to claim that they are higher than ever. There is no way that any story today is going to bring in as many UK viewers as City of Death's 14 million..
@ShamManTV
@ShamManTV 5 ай бұрын
@@evildeed90s Great comeback. I challenge you to prove me wrong.. but you can't as the stats don't back your opinion.
@TheFunkyJawa
@TheFunkyJawa 5 ай бұрын
@@ShamManTV UK numbers are irrelevant, this is a worldwide gig now.
@grey_guy_cris_61
@grey_guy_cris_61 4 ай бұрын
NO ROMANCE And NO SEX In Doctor Who!!!
@BuyAvonFromDonna
@BuyAvonFromDonna 2 ай бұрын
Rose? And she wasn't the first "romance". I hate to think the Doctor has lived hundreds of years without any romantic relationships -- that would be horrendously SAD.
@PaulRichards-vz4pl
@PaulRichards-vz4pl 2 ай бұрын
@@BuyAvonFromDonnaIn Classic Who once it was established the Doctor has two hearts and can regenerate they went with the alien Doctor and left the Time Lords breeding habits a mystery. Sadly new Who drags the Doctor down to a human level and he’s lost the unique qualities he once had. Why do we want to watch just another good looking flirtatious hero when there are plenty of them around.
@Kartzchen
@Kartzchen 13 күн бұрын
Smith and River, Capaldi and River, Tennant and Rose, Eccelson and Rose, The Ponds (huge love story and family), doctors friends that fell in love, friendship love, and all the side stories of love driving human decisions. Not to mention the Doctor's relentless passion for falling in love with the universe. It has always been a love story. So, what are you talking about?
@PaulRichards-vz4pl
@PaulRichards-vz4pl 13 күн бұрын
@@Kartzchen Have you never watched Classic Who. All that information was from modern Who. Peter Capaldi cut out the flirty crap however the one episode with River did drag him down. Proper Who ended in 89.
@TheScratchingKiwi
@TheScratchingKiwi 5 ай бұрын
Dr Who is a British institution and has a distinctly British feel just like 007 has. There are rules that go with that. The Doctor is a bit anachronistic as a person; he's a bit dopey, a bit smart, a killer observer with a razor wit. That dude that's there? Wrong vibe completely. Too young looking. Break the rules and it's totally broken. The simple joy is that it is a *simple* show with a *simple* story. How can someone muck that up? Did you say... d i s n e y? That great US entity that is dying (and not before time?). It all makes sense now. You want a Doctor to tick a certain box? You want someone British who can deliver a line? Lenny Henry! Was he not available? Danny John-Jules! Get the vibe? British.
@kuggacouragegx6093
@kuggacouragegx6093 5 ай бұрын
Dude just admit u are racist and don't want to see anyone except a white guy on tv
@leethomas2155
@leethomas2155 5 ай бұрын
2:48... Of Shit!
@Diogo85
@Diogo85 5 ай бұрын
There is no forced inclusiveness.
@kuggacouragegx6093
@kuggacouragegx6093 5 ай бұрын
He is just grifting. The fact I hate with comments like those are them snitching on themselves. Saying they don't hate 13th being a woman but then go on about her being a woman is bad. Claiming they don't hate ncuti cause he is black and gay it is just the forced agedna, and when they explain what they mean, it is just them literally crying about him being black and gay is an issue Claiming that they aren't against inclusivity just for them to literally complain about it. Then argued the show was already inclusive yet it literally wasn't at all cause it was lacking it. They were open to it yes but didn't acted it out is the issue. And when they finally doing it these ppl get triggered over it. They think having 1 bi male and 1 black woman back then is fine but having a black leabain as a companion is bad, having a female lead or a black lead is bad
@PeterCamberwick
@PeterCamberwick 5 ай бұрын
Ah, but there is though.
@ShamManTV
@ShamManTV 5 ай бұрын
Are we watching the same show? 😂😓
@kuggacouragegx6093
@kuggacouragegx6093 5 ай бұрын
@@PeterCamberwick no there isn't. U are just a bigot and never was a fan of the show
@kuggacouragegx6093
@kuggacouragegx6093 5 ай бұрын
@@ShamManTV no. Cause we actually watched the show, we are fans of it. Reaction channels are fine with it. Ppl like u who weren't even fans nor watch the show are the only ones complaining and not watching
@professorakiba434
@professorakiba434 5 ай бұрын
Here is the hypocrisy of the moment. Its like none of what you see in 2024 wasn't there in 2005 during RTD's first time around. Its like there is this memory bubble happening where the series was somehow different in 2005 when RTD first took hold of the show and its now something else. Take Rogue. My word how I bet how the Doctor's relationship with Rogue will drive this same crowd mad. Woke! Woke I tell you!. Yet who was Captain Jack Harkness. Only the first male to plant a kiss on the Doctor (9th). Capt. Jack's binary nature was on show for all to see. Yet back in the day were any from this crowd screaming and making a circus out of things because he did that! No! Which only leads me to a single conclusion. That this memory bubble comes with a healthy side of hypocrisy.
@JRRLewis
@JRRLewis 4 ай бұрын
Good luck trying to convince people a grape is the same thing as a watermelon just because they are both fruit.
@qanijees69
@qanijees69 5 ай бұрын
He is the most Dr Who I ever watched
@BuyAvonFromDonna
@BuyAvonFromDonna 2 ай бұрын
I think Ncuti Gatwa is the best Dr Who of all time. Well, okay, maybe tied with David Tennant for the best. He's energetic, charismatic, and I will be forever infuriated if the franchise fails now!
@UnlimeitedMK
@UnlimeitedMK 5 ай бұрын
im against woke agendas but im enjoying gatwa alot more than jodie
@ShamManTV
@ShamManTV 5 ай бұрын
I will second that. With the right writing, Ncuti's doctor could be great.
@TalhaMasood
@TalhaMasood 5 ай бұрын
I disagree, Ncuti especially after the last ep has quickly become one of my favorites.
@CutePyro0
@CutePyro0 5 ай бұрын
yeah lets just watch a show about a bloke crying because that is litterally all he does
@FullmetalMax
@FullmetalMax 5 ай бұрын
LMAO! You think David Tennant didn't receive hate when he was on the show? Please do your research next time. Even Tom Baker was hated when he first arrived. Ncuti Gatwa is great in the role, different (not a David Tennant or Matt Smith copycat) but still The Doctor. Unlike Jodie Whittaker (No hate for her from me though, I really wish that she will have a Paul McGann-style comeback in the future).
@ShamManTV
@ShamManTV 5 ай бұрын
Maybe watch the full video before jumping to conclusions 😃
@FullmetalMax
@FullmetalMax 5 ай бұрын
​@@ShamManTV I did, and my point still stands. Every Doctor was and will be hated until the next one comes along. Same with the showrunner. Also, of course, the ratings will fall on TV now that Doctor Who is streaming on Disney+ and BBC iPlayer. Not to mention that all shows on TV are kind of dying
@grey_guy_cris_61
@grey_guy_cris_61 4 ай бұрын
THINKING Of STOPPING GETTING DOCTOR WHO MONTHLY MAGAZINE NOW.
@grey_guy_cris_61
@grey_guy_cris_61 4 ай бұрын
DON'T Have TV NOW, ALL TV Crap NOW!!!
@TrekTrav
@TrekTrav 4 ай бұрын
I love how people say 'woke' but what they mean is 'I hate change'
@eggheadreport
@eggheadreport 4 ай бұрын
If you meaningfully change a character, it's no longer the same character. Take yourself for example, imagine if you were born another race, or another gender, or another culture etc... you would have a completely different life upbringing. You're no longer the same person- the people who know you... wouldn't know you anymore. Can you understand how that would rub the audience the wrong way? They are basically saying the Doctor is actually "The Baker" but please believe he is the Doctor still. The audience is going to go, "No he isn't. He's not the doctor, who's the Baker." And they're going to judge him as being off/different/wrong. It's not about hate. It's about pattern recognition. This does not meet our expectations. This is subverting our expectations.
@TrekTrav
@TrekTrav 4 ай бұрын
@@eggheadreport The Doctor is an alien, who changes his face a personality on the regular. In fact a lot of the personality traits this Doctor has is the same as David Tennant had in Series 2. The only actual major difference is the colour of his skin. People keep screaming at these sci fi shows, 'Stop doing this and stop doing that' and what they all have in common is that the main characters moved away from a straight, white, male protagonist.
@eggheadreport
@eggheadreport 4 ай бұрын
@@TrekTrav The different personality is more acceptable if you follow my above points. Aren't there times throughout your life where you've presented different behaviors and personalities to the world? You might have been mad one day-- and was more of a "grumpy" you. Or you might have been happy and presented a "happy" you. But have you ever showed up to work or met up with a family member as a "black" you? How do you think they would respond if they saw you were suddenly a "Chinese" you, or a "black" you?
@TrekTrav
@TrekTrav 4 ай бұрын
@@eggheadreport My family aren't racist. I have black and Asian family members. The colour of The Doctors skin, Their gender, who they are attracted too, is irrelevant. It just adds to the tapestry of the charactor. If The Doctor had stayed as a middle aged white guy it would be weirder and stupider.
@eggheadreport
@eggheadreport 4 ай бұрын
@@TrekTrav I'm sorry you're resorting to thinking what I said was racist. That seems like the normal thing people do instead of having civil conversations. That's usually the retort of someone closed minded. "it'll lead to nazi'ism or you're a racist." first thing you learn in speech and debate..
@JohnWilsonComicsGuy
@JohnWilsonComicsGuy 5 ай бұрын
I think you are the one who has an issue with Ncuti and the current season of Doctor Who and the number of things that you got wrong in your diatribe only proves that you cherry-picked those things that supported your argument and ignored everything else. "Doctor Who was made for straight white males." It most certainly was not. It was conceived by Sydney Neuman to be an education/entertainment show for children and was produced by Verity Lambert, a woman, and one of its earliest directors was Waris Hussein, a gay British-Indian man. "All of the previous Doctors were straight white men before Jodie Whittaker." You have no earthly way of knowing that. Unless they have discussed their sexuality publically, which most haven't, you don't know how any of them identified. Also, I noticed you failed to take in the streaming ratings and only used the ratings for the television. Additionally, you claimed that Ncuti was "acting like himself" and not the Doctor. I defy you to look at any of the Doctors, especially the modern ones, and not see aspects of the actor enhance the role, especially as they get comfortable with it. Lastly, it is impossible to take anyone who uses "woke" as a derogatory term seriously.
@kuggacouragegx6093
@kuggacouragegx6093 5 ай бұрын
Facts and he doesn't know. That Tom baker was being himself
@CutePyro0
@CutePyro0 5 ай бұрын
okay so me being trans hating the show because of the terrible story writing and constant plot holes is "racist" as the current dr has said multiple times
@kuggacouragegx6093
@kuggacouragegx6093 5 ай бұрын
@@CutePyro0 stfu there is nothing terrible noenthere have been any plot holes at all. U are literally going out of your way to hate the show for the fun of it. Yes u are racist
@dyriten
@dyriten 3 ай бұрын
Dr who has gotten too woke and im sorry to say this but Ncuti Gatwa is just too gay. He has made his whole personality to just be super gay. I hope the next doctor will be good because the last 2 in Jodie and Ncuti have been a nightmare. They had an amazing run with David Tennant, Matt Smith and Peter Capaldi, seriously they couldnt have picked 3 better men for the job. What the fuck happened?
@MrMarco33333
@MrMarco33333 5 ай бұрын
Yep, for me the backlash has nothing to do with Ncuti himself being black or gay. In fact I loved the drama at the end of Dot & Bubble where he was brilliant. I can certainly get on board with his Doctor. What is tiring is pushing the gender ideology so much in Doctor Who in a wider world where this ideology is pushing for things that I cannot endorse.
@paulaburrows8660
@paulaburrows8660 5 ай бұрын
Numbers don't lie. No ONE is watching.
@aamnahameed4
@aamnahameed4 5 ай бұрын
🙌🙌
@kieranleehamilton
@kieranleehamilton 5 ай бұрын
“Skirt dancing” Jesus Christ do your research man, that ain’t a skirt.
@ShamManTV
@ShamManTV 5 ай бұрын
It’s a skirt.
@kuggacouragegx6093
@kuggacouragegx6093 5 ай бұрын
@@ShamManTV stupid it is a kilt cause he is Scottish
@paulhammond6978
@paulhammond6978 5 ай бұрын
@@ShamManTV It's a kilt. But I guess kilts are definitely gay now.
@ShamManTV
@ShamManTV 5 ай бұрын
@@paulhammond6978 A kilt is a type of skirt, according to the Oxford Dictionary.
@paulhammond6978
@paulhammond6978 5 ай бұрын
@@ShamManTV "skirt" is generally used to refer to the clothing of females. That is why the Scots use a different word to refer to kilts that are for men. Don't pretend to me that you used the word "skirt" to describe the Doctor's kilt with no ulterior motive to suggest that he's effeminate and you think that's a bad thing.
@MatthewCYN15
@MatthewCYN15 5 ай бұрын
Please. Respectfully. Just shut up.
@ShamManTV
@ShamManTV 5 ай бұрын
Please. Respectfully. Stop hiding behind a fake account.
@MatthewCYN15
@MatthewCYN15 5 ай бұрын
@@ShamManTV bit rich coming from you, also, ur only a minority of people who hate Ncuti, and the reasons for hating him ain't even criticism. Honestly if u really hate him as the Doc that much, I quadruple dare you to say that to his face. Oh wait. Ur too scared to do that cause ur hiding. Oops.
@ShamManTV
@ShamManTV 5 ай бұрын
@@MatthewCYN15 You’re not making sense. I have relayed the general public opinion, and added my thoughts. People are allowed to have a different opinion. The ratings and reviews also speak for themselves. The show is sh#t atm; now jog on, troll.
@MatthewCYN15
@MatthewCYN15 5 ай бұрын
​@@ShamManTV sir. Ur comments in this video just smells rudeness. There's a line between genuine criticism and rudeness. Like the opinions on Space Babies, that is criticism. Ur just being rude. Not even a -cist or -phobe. You're just rude. Or in other words, An asshole.
@MatthewCYN15
@MatthewCYN15 5 ай бұрын
​@@ShamManTV sir There's a line between genuine criticism and plain rudeness. Ur comments in this just smells rudeness. Do I need to go on? Or ur scared of being called out.
@Colin-from-BHAM
@Colin-from-BHAM 5 ай бұрын
Why don’t you watch a different show?
@donatist59
@donatist59 5 ай бұрын
I am watching a different show: Doctor Who 1963-2022. Completely different from this unwatchable rubbish.
@CutePyro0
@CutePyro0 5 ай бұрын
yeah we are doing that's why the show is not getting the normal 5+ million views and is just making 2 million
@kuggacouragegx6093
@kuggacouragegx6093 5 ай бұрын
@@CutePyro0 no it is still making over 5 million Also the normal is over 1 mil not 5 Good job at proving u never saw the show
@kuggacouragegx6093
@kuggacouragegx6093 5 ай бұрын
@@donatist59 what
@CutePyro0
@CutePyro0 5 ай бұрын
@@kuggacouragegx6093 what episodes only got 1 million views please list them for me as i can list many from david tenants era that got over 10 million
@alandavis2741
@alandavis2741 5 ай бұрын
Much as I like Gatwa, from other shows I've watched him in, he is utterly unconvincing as the Doctor. I guess rather than actually casting by auditions to see if an actor fits the role, they cast him by skin colour first, sexuality second, 'coolness' third, and his CV and previous reviews fourth. I don't think they now have any idea of what sort of character the Dr is, and who fits that role. Jodie was awful in every way, this fella is no worse, but just not a fit for the role.
@rykerrobinson4479
@rykerrobinson4479 5 ай бұрын
The most hated doctor who is and always was jodie whittaker
@thelivingbarfpoo2363
@thelivingbarfpoo2363 5 ай бұрын
Cringe
@kuggacouragegx6093
@kuggacouragegx6093 5 ай бұрын
5:32 there is no message
@PeterCamberwick
@PeterCamberwick 5 ай бұрын
Ah, but there is though.
@kuggacouragegx6093
@kuggacouragegx6093 5 ай бұрын
@@PeterCamberwick dude stop lying there isn't no woke agedna message Anything that yall call a woke agenda message is a black person, a lgbt person, a woman or anything that isn't a straight white guy just existing is what yall cry about as the agenda. Stfu
@kuggacouragegx6093
@kuggacouragegx6093 5 ай бұрын
@@PeterCamberwick no there isn't and u can't even show proof or examples of it cause it doesn't exist and all u going to do is cry about the doctor being black and gay
@ShamManTV
@ShamManTV 5 ай бұрын
You’re not watching Doctor Who then
@kuggacouragegx6093
@kuggacouragegx6093 5 ай бұрын
@@ShamManTV no. I am watching Dr who. U aren't and never did. If u are crying about how Dr who have been progressive or liberal, then dummy u never saw the show cause the show had always been like that. If u are crying about wokeness then yes u never saw the show
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