The CURSE of Tadej Pogačar

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Chris Horner

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@aglees2b
@aglees2b Ай бұрын
"Remco Evenepoel doesn't wait long to hit the knucklehead button" 😂😂😂😂 pure gold. Perhaps your best knuckleheadism of the year
@robbchastain3036
@robbchastain3036 Ай бұрын
The Knucklehead Button needs to be the next big tech innovation. A big red button on the stem like that Staples "that was easy" button. 😀
@alesksander
@alesksander Ай бұрын
@@robbchastain3036 Maybe Peloton needs knuckled horn on scooters LOL when such knuckleheatisms happen.
@dadonwelfare
@dadonwelfare Ай бұрын
Remco is still young and has plenty of room to improve
@milhouse53
@milhouse53 Ай бұрын
@aglees2b this is not knuckleheads (Chris Horner likes the word c7z it gets him "likes". THERE IS NOTHING Remco could do and Remco knows it and Chris Horner knows it too I think Remco simply tested Tadej's legs. Aren't you tired after being in the wind for 100km a week ago? Then he saw Tadej on the wheel with still 40km to go and he retired into the night. Next try will be soon :)
@robbchastain3036
@robbchastain3036 Ай бұрын
@@alesksander I like the honking of Canadian Geese as they fly south for the winter, it is like all of them in their peloton are honking in approval at the knucklehead in front, like 'keep going, keep going, you're looking good' all the way to Florida or wherever their travels together take them. 😀
@danroberts007
@danroberts007 Ай бұрын
A week from now I’ll be at the top of the Ghisallo climb cheering Pogacar on. Rain is predicted, I hope it’s not torrential as I’m gonna have to ride back down it to get to my AirBnB. Can’t wait to see Tadej solo to another Monument victory! 🎉🚴🏆
@gypsybrother-z8q
@gypsybrother-z8q Ай бұрын
Awesome! Just plan for foul weather, you'll be fine. It's not like you're in a race to get back. Enjoy yourself! I'm so jealous🦋👊💥
@swisstopia
@swisstopia Ай бұрын
Keep the rubber side down. 👍🦋👊
@GalacticPursuit
@GalacticPursuit Ай бұрын
Good to be the part of the history writing. ✌
@derickcastillo9083
@derickcastillo9083 Ай бұрын
It is interesting that Matteo said to Quin Simons about trying to follow Pogi after the world championships that "if you fly to close to the sun, you get burned". And then he choose to try to follow Pogi and then destroyed himself. Never the less, I respect that he tried to follow and make it a race.
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling Ай бұрын
Sometimes you got to slow to go fast. 👊🦋
@flyingberserker3965
@flyingberserker3965 Ай бұрын
The best solution its not to Panic and Ride an steady tempo that could isolate you and others, then to make a chase for pogacar
@leronharrison1110
@leronharrison1110 Ай бұрын
Not only are you a knucklehead, you look just like my dog!!! OMG!!! Chris, you just savaged that poor Astana rider!!!
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling Ай бұрын
Well, to be fair. He did have Pogi sitting on his wheel and he did look back many times. 😂👀🦋👊
@bihlygoat
@bihlygoat Ай бұрын
I think there could be Tadej Pogacar jokes like there are Chuck Norris jokes. Except they’d be true. “Tadej Pogacar doesn’t have to stand up when he attacks.” “Tadej Pogacar attacks from 100km out. And wins.”
@GOlone9597
@GOlone9597 Ай бұрын
At this point, every race where Pogacar starts is a battle for 2nd place 🥱🥱🥱
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling Ай бұрын
Right. Someone please just let me have control of a couple strong teams (maybe I would need three ;) that are 2nd and 3rd strongest in the race next time Pogi goes from way far out like at the worlds and I would bet that they catch him. 50k out and I could at least make the racing closer and the leaders of the teams would still do ok but if you gave me a 100% on form Roglic, Jonas, or Remco I could win occasionally with them. 🤔🦋👊
@markrushton1516
@markrushton1516 Ай бұрын
I can't understand why they just let him go. 2 or 3 teams should be able to reel him back in over a longer distance but it's like a magic trick. Is he really that much faster? Or just able to sustain that power for longer.
@andreasabels589
@andreasabels589 Ай бұрын
The competition is just stupid. Pogi goes from a distance where conventional wisdom says that he cannot win. Then they panic when they cannot catch him within ~20km. Like, if he went with 20km to go, you would not expect to catch him easily. But they still have 30-70 km to go (in recent races) and they should easily catch him if they ride tempo as a group. Thing is, not everyone wants the peleton to catch. Say you have the 4th or 5th best rider. Do you want to catch? I say no, you want to launch attacks and explode the peleton so that the 2nd and 3rd best grind down their teams so that you can maybe beat them and secure 2nd overall. Think about it. Do you think Pidcock or Woods could get 2nd in a regular race where the peleton works and catches Pogacar? I think not. It will be Remco or Roglic that wins such a race. (Remco still races like a knucklehead, but I can see why random teams try to attack and break up the peleton. Maybe Lidl-Trek thought Ciccone had a shot at a top 5 riding like they did. In a regular race, he certainly cannot get that.)
@flyingberserker3965
@flyingberserker3965 Ай бұрын
​@@andreasabels589roglic and remco have the duty to put their teams controling the break way in a controlled manner to not burn their domestiques and even jumbo, but that never happens because there alaways some stupid team like Lidl trek that kamikazes their teams for nothing, and blew most of domestiques, still the GC favourites could work together instead of attacking each other and let other riders get oportunities to counter attacks
@henrybachri173
@henrybachri173 Ай бұрын
@@andreasabels589 Lidl need to attack cause they cannot win races, is the way for them to get exposure..and other medium team..they just need media exposure..thats what the sponsor hope..imho
@fabiovalentinuzzi5589
@fabiovalentinuzzi5589 Ай бұрын
14:49 the other guy is Giulio Pellizzari, the guy who got caught many times by Pogacar at this year's Giro till Pogacar gave him is pink jersey as a gift 😅
@jesselobo3213
@jesselobo3213 Ай бұрын
Simply stated, Tadej Pogacar has painted a masterpiece this year and with two final races on his race schedule we will soon be able to stand back, admire and analyze all the tones and colors that Tadej has used to redefine the limits of the human condition. My words fail me in describing what I have witnessed this year. I knew we were in for a special season if Tadej could stay healthy and my lord, did he exceed even my wildest expectations. The greatest racer I've ever had the privilidge of watching. Great job Chris, as always you brought it. Even at the end of the racing season you're on point. Thank you.
@newtoncountry5937
@newtoncountry5937 Ай бұрын
For someone who claims to have had words fail them, you sure used a lot of words to say very little. You probably love the sound of your own voice lol
@jesselobo3213
@jesselobo3213 Ай бұрын
@@newtoncountry5937 That's fair to say, although inaccurate.
@MontrealMike
@MontrealMike Ай бұрын
We had the chance to admire several Tadej colors in 2024: pink, yellow, rainbow 🙂
@tonyg3091
@tonyg3091 Ай бұрын
Expertly put. The Year of The Pog.
@bikerbruce1988
@bikerbruce1988 Ай бұрын
You passed ‘simply stated’ before your first comma.
@charlestoddsullivanforpres6628
@charlestoddsullivanforpres6628 Ай бұрын
Looking forward to Tour of Lombardi to see how this season wraps up. He seems to like wearing the rainbow jersey.
@tonyg3091
@tonyg3091 Ай бұрын
What do you think will happen? On a course tailor made for Pog?😂
@charlestoddsullivanforpres6628
@charlestoddsullivanforpres6628 Ай бұрын
@@tonyg3091 I think he will attack.
@ericvonhellens8822
@ericvonhellens8822 Ай бұрын
Thank you, Chris & Garrett. You two do great and entertaining work with a dose of education.
@lorenciandrej
@lorenciandrej Ай бұрын
Meanwhile a new generation of young cyclists in Slovenia grows: Pogi's influence on youth is quite positive.
@bertdaniel1449
@bertdaniel1449 Ай бұрын
I’m sitting here on my Chesterfield just loving the analysis by MY MAN! (not Victor Campanaerts, Chris Horner) Truth or dare, Chris. What was YOUR most knucklehead moment of your racing career? Knucklehead moments happen to the best of us.
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling Ай бұрын
I have so many of them. But I would say that my first TdF in 2005. On the first mountain stage. We were on the first real mountain and attacks were going left, right, and center. It was hard to predict which attack to follow because all of them had strong riders. So I thought, no problem, I will just follow Lance and Jan when they go. Yep, I truly thought that up until one second into their attack. Then I went to plan B. 😂😂😂😂😂😂🦋👊🇫🇷⛰️
@jean-jacqueslavigne3109
@jean-jacqueslavigne3109 Ай бұрын
@@ChrisHornerCyclingand plan B was?
@Chiller11
@Chiller11 Ай бұрын
Tadej looked good in the World Champions jersey but I really like the Canadian Champion’s jersey that Michael Woods was wearing. Too bad he didn’t get on the podium but 4th place in that field is an excellent result.
@MontrealMike
@MontrealMike Ай бұрын
Word. 🍁
@adrianyuen
@adrianyuen Ай бұрын
😅😅😅 "Remco Evanpoel does not wait long to hit the knucklehead button...." 😅😅😅
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling Ай бұрын
😂🦋👊
@joebriggs8422
@joebriggs8422 Ай бұрын
53 finishers, 110 DNFs including Remco and Primož 🤨
@devengudinas1649
@devengudinas1649 Ай бұрын
Wow
@bertolaci9509
@bertolaci9509 Ай бұрын
Did you see tge conditions?
@joebriggs8422
@joebriggs8422 Ай бұрын
@@bertolaci9509 Yes, rain at times, temp ~13c (55f), wind ~8km/hr (5 mph), fog at times.
@toccandocreacanaleulterior176
@toccandocreacanaleulterior176 Ай бұрын
Cause they would get lapped, the track was quite short
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling Ай бұрын
Lap after lap viewing the bus, just to hard to continue. 😬😱🦋🚌
@Pomi3001
@Pomi3001 Ай бұрын
I love your videos, they really reveal a lot of tactical elements I overoook when I watch the race live.
@bamnguyen7903
@bamnguyen7903 Ай бұрын
Can you at some point do a vid on your own top 10 knuckle head moves in your race career? 😂 love ur vids and have been a long time fan 😊
@telapreta9795
@telapreta9795 Ай бұрын
"the curse is on the hol' peloton" probably one of the most acurate lines of the season they just pannick and start to race for second when he attacks, its frustrating but understandable Thanks chris and garret, the finest coverage as always 🦋
@valiantabello
@valiantabello Ай бұрын
My wife thought i was being mean when i called LIDL Trek a knucklehead train but she watched your video Chris and now she understands why lolll
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling Ай бұрын
All the coaching is paying off. 😂🦋👊
@autorelight
@autorelight Ай бұрын
What a ride! Definitely some odd decisions in this race, but once again Tadej just taking what they give him.
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling Ай бұрын
Just once I would like to see the favorites not name pogi work together to try and bring pogi back. Just one time when pogi goes in a long range attack. 🤪🦋👊🏆🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋
@bradford_shaun_murray
@bradford_shaun_murray Ай бұрын
Christopher...3 teams working as 1 super team in a pre race arrangement vs UAE. With sectional strategies like you said. I'm not a directuer sportif but they might surprise themselves with 1 kilometre to go and also upset UAI's repetitive dominance by causing them to rethink not knowing what mult teams will do next race.
@markrushton1516
@markrushton1516 Ай бұрын
I just watch and shake my head. Let's race for second!
@gypsybrother-z8q
@gypsybrother-z8q Ай бұрын
@@ChrisHornerCycling 💯"Just once" is all it will take, if they succeed. But even if they don't it will shed light on the situation. The definition of crazy 🤪is using the same behavior only expecting different results. 🦋👊🙌🙌Thank you Chris and Garrett!
@autorelight
@autorelight Ай бұрын
@@ChrisHornerCycling If we look at the women's side, the last few years everyone just let SD Worx do nothing, then beat them on talent at the end. The tail end of last year, and then into this year, other teams started to smarten up and make SD Worx work... and it's worked very, very well. Trek, Caynyon Sram, and others have pulled of fsome major victories this year. Pog is my favourite rider for sure, but when will these other teams start riding smarter? Are they SO set in their old ways that they can't pivot? It's insane.
@mikemartinez4450
@mikemartinez4450 Ай бұрын
Like 217 🇵🇭🚴🚴🚴❤️ Poga-CHAMP sure looks great in rainbow 🌈 Topping him off would take a herculean effort and flawless team tactics in order to make it happen. The way he's performing the stage is set to rewrite cycling's history. Let's celebrate him and all the current riders Remco, Jonas, Primoz, MVP WVA all greats in their own rights who continue to entertain us and provide us exciting races every time they don their jersey.
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling Ай бұрын
Agreed 👊🦋💪🌈
@tonyg3091
@tonyg3091 Ай бұрын
Pog is the Chuck Noris of cycling, rainbow jersey doesn’t curse him, he curses whoever happens to be in the same race. Being in the same race with Pog is already a very VERY bad luck.
@itskwicks
@itskwicks Ай бұрын
Damn didn't expect to see my man Frank Schleck in this video :D
@domestique3954
@domestique3954 Ай бұрын
Now the curse of the rainbow jersey is for the whole bunch!
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling Ай бұрын
👊🦋
@gbart981
@gbart981 Ай бұрын
Tadej'O knows how to put on a show. He looks great in the colors and well deserved.
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling Ай бұрын
Yes. He does 👊🦋🌈
@Zephyr653
@Zephyr653 Ай бұрын
Hoping that Pogi continues to improve in 2025 and beyond. Chris - what do you think Jorg’s upside is?
@DavidDudley-yy2ui
@DavidDudley-yy2ui Ай бұрын
Very entertaining analysis !
@roadrunner1095
@roadrunner1095 Ай бұрын
Love the attention to spectators... 😂 little boy running is maybe next pentani 👍
@ZENmud
@ZENmud Ай бұрын
I loved seeing Remco jacking around with Matteo 😂😂😂 ... and Quinn Simmons right behind, smirking with glee... 🎉😂🎉
@jackwilson8034
@jackwilson8034 Ай бұрын
Truth hurts!! Brilliant analysis as usual.Don’t these top DS’s have computers to watch this😊
@darwinboor1300
@darwinboor1300 Ай бұрын
Thanks Chris. Great analysis.
@dr.merlot1532
@dr.merlot1532 Ай бұрын
Pog almost lapped the field
@recrevs963
@recrevs963 Ай бұрын
That is not good for them nor for people watching is it?
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling Ай бұрын
Yep 🦋💪
@AhmadDhahnial
@AhmadDhahnial Ай бұрын
So early, good 👍👍 thank you, Chris...🙏🙏
@mickelkobeck7376
@mickelkobeck7376 Ай бұрын
Pogi destroyed Jonas in the tour. LOL
@justliberty4072
@justliberty4072 Ай бұрын
"The easy button", "the knucklehead button", priceless.
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling Ай бұрын
😂🦋👊
@kimmirossi46
@kimmirossi46 Ай бұрын
SLovenia is cycling super power!
@Andy_ATB
@Andy_ATB Ай бұрын
Not quite; not too much success in MTB, CX, Track???
@harryburn412
@harryburn412 Ай бұрын
Very entertaining, thank you
@matttilley8620
@matttilley8620 Ай бұрын
Tadej Pogacar's legs don't wear out. He keeps saying in post-race interviews that his legs were hurting during the final km's, but that is nonsense. We all know that Pogacar's legs don't wear out, so of course the race is going to be for second. Pogacar reminds me of Genevieve Jeanson. Her career was marked by a "coach" who administered a doping diet so extreme that she won races by 20 minutes while riding solo. I'd love to know what is going on at UAE. It would be interesting if all the information eventually came out.
@charliedillon1400
@charliedillon1400 Ай бұрын
I listened to an interview with Genevieve recently. Her story is brutal. She was groomed and abused by a creep coach who brought her to the USA and basically kidnapped her. I knew she was doping at the time, but after hearing her story, I respect her as a human being, and a survivor.
@swisstopia
@swisstopia Ай бұрын
Sport Science is a wonderful thing.
@QPSQUANTUM424
@QPSQUANTUM424 Ай бұрын
@matttilley8620 If they were cheating, why isn't any other teammate of Tadej as good as he is? Jay Vine ( one of his UAE teammates )said on a recent podcast that Pogi is super natural/ human as far as recovery and producing power. This year, Pogi changed his personal coaching ( Javier Sola ), took nutrition serious for the first time, and worked his ass off ( attitude training for three plus weeks ) for the Giro & TDF. I could say a lot more, but that's enough.
@ŠtefanKučera-o7d
@ŠtefanKučera-o7d Ай бұрын
Your are naive​@@QPSQUANTUM424
@tonyg3091
@tonyg3091 Ай бұрын
Genevieve who?
@padmanabhaprasannasimha5385
@padmanabhaprasannasimha5385 Ай бұрын
Never have I been faster to click on a video notification. 🤜 🐛
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling Ай бұрын
Bam. And you are podium with that super sonic finger speed. 😂🦋👊🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋
@Aya33-xX
@Aya33-xX Ай бұрын
You know someone is a GOAT when everyone is studying how to stop the GOAT.
@stevefranke3985
@stevefranke3985 Ай бұрын
Thank you Chris!!!
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling Ай бұрын
👊🦋
@iacobogallus2110
@iacobogallus2110 Ай бұрын
I think that Pogi is not defeatable in cold weather. To beat him you need a great team and a hot weather...like in TdF 2022, 2023. A lot of dogs are rabbits death.
@aleksanderpeca759
@aleksanderpeca759 Ай бұрын
Beat him with a great team... How manny in the team to beat him. 😂
@musclelessfitness2045
@musclelessfitness2045 Ай бұрын
Knucklehead button !!?? ... OMG !! 😂🤣🦋
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling Ай бұрын
😂🦋👊
@qingyuhu
@qingyuhu Ай бұрын
Epic!!! Knucklehead button comment had me in tears! It certainly was a WTF are you doing moment!
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling Ай бұрын
I could not believe what I was seeing. 😂🇧🇪👀🤪🦋👊
@mikeoc217
@mikeoc217 Ай бұрын
Tadej gassed the Peloton. I just don't see Jonas unless he gets some incredible help beating Tadej in the near future. Remco dropped out knowing it was futile Primos wasn't to be seen? Two minutes going away. His new nutritionist has turned him into, in the infamous words spoken at the 1973 Belmont about Secretariat " He's riding like a Tremendous Machine" 👍🏼🫅🏻🚵🏻💯🇸🇮
@mikhailway
@mikhailway Ай бұрын
I think we also don’t know if that terrible accident earlier this year had any long term consequences. Of course he did amazing at Le Tour, but to beat Tadej you have to be 100% Jonas.
@mikeoc217
@mikeoc217 Ай бұрын
Ya can't discount that Tadej lost to a Team. They wore Tadej down with repeated attacks from Primos, Wout etc. Not to mention the fact Tadej was gassed out & bonked from lack of proper fuel intake. I like Jonas he's an incredible talent. I believe Tadej is a Phenom that hasn't been around since Eddy Merckx 👍🏼💯
@morganconey4814
@morganconey4814 Ай бұрын
Amazing in 2024 that the whole world tour peleton still haven't worked out unless your name is Jonas Vingegaard do not attack or try to follow Tadej on 10% climbs 🤔
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling Ай бұрын
Right. Jonas is the only rider that knows how to race Pogi. Thank the cycling gods for Jonas. 🤔😬😱🦋🌈👊👊
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling Ай бұрын
Only Jonas 🦋👊
@morganconey4814
@morganconey4814 Ай бұрын
Until the whole peloton puts their heads together and collectively work together (and this may require some unholy alliances across team lines to be made) to shut down these long range attacks its going to be a long 2025 for everyone not in a UAE jersey. Tadej attacks with impunity at present because every time he's done so hes taken the top step of the podium. If all the 80kg guys who can take 600w pulls work together these Pogacar attacks can be closed but currently due to lack of cooperation everyone just concedes they are racing for 2nd even when there is 2 hours of racing left.
@End_Illegal_Apartheid_israhell
@End_Illegal_Apartheid_israhell Ай бұрын
fascinating take. love it
@goatbloat8233
@goatbloat8233 Ай бұрын
Chris, it would be cool to see someone (hint hint) break down pogi's attia interview where he talks about his training (e.g. 6 hour zone 2 rides at 350W).
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling Ай бұрын
Agreed. I got to get to that one. 👊🦋
@MrJaycobsen
@MrJaycobsen Ай бұрын
That's not what he said though. 320-340 when he's on the climbs if it's a hilly route and he would drop to 290 if he's doing a steady endurance ride.
@alesksander
@alesksander Ай бұрын
@@MrJaycobsen Plus he is using metric connected between heartrate, power and velocity, witch is corelated all the time in his head. Its quite bonkers when you know your routes and body to the tee. Esentially he can tempo those bonkers 100 , 80 km solo runs easily and more safetly hold pace closes to the limit. Ofc he was bonkers W/kg numbers, but how far can you pull all time is huge metric.
@kovar2344
@kovar2344 Ай бұрын
Congrats to team Trek and Ciccone for the beautiful 43th place.
@QPSQUANTUM424
@QPSQUANTUM424 Ай бұрын
At least they raced. Over 110 riders did not finish! ( dnf )
@kovar2344
@kovar2344 Ай бұрын
@@QPSQUANTUM424 yeah it´s bonkers.
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling Ай бұрын
Hehehe. It was so bad I didn’t look to see how trek finished today. Thanks, now I know. 😂🦋👊
@tonilauge5786
@tonilauge5786 Ай бұрын
Hey, Hey Ciccone was 2 Best Italian rider! 1 Italian number 25! All time worst for ITALY Once a Big Cycle Nation! Now it s just Embarrssing👿 To Wacht.
@kovar2344
@kovar2344 Ай бұрын
​@@tonilauge5786 haha m8 you must be colour blind. There were many Italians up there. 3rd, 10th, 11th, .... and many more were Italians.
@sgroadie6367
@sgroadie6367 Ай бұрын
Tadej is just too fearsome, that once he goes, everybody is thinking of being second. Curse of the rainbow indeed..but firmly on the peloton. Bravo Tadej. We need Jonas to properly challenge him.
@ellenbrook2001
@ellenbrook2001 Ай бұрын
sorry not BRAVO the guy so selfish unprofessional
@sgroadie6367
@sgroadie6367 Ай бұрын
@@ellenbrook2001 he is paid to win. And I say bravo for winning! Also, if you were Pidcock what would it mean if Pog let you win the race? Come on, this is real sports. Not a school race!
@Flakey101
@Flakey101 Ай бұрын
@@ellenbrook2001 I would love for you to explain how winning is unprofessional, since Pog is paid to win races?
@jaspercanda671
@jaspercanda671 Ай бұрын
​@@ellenbrook2001 unprofessional is not to win if you get paid to do so 🤣
@tonyg3091
@tonyg3091 Ай бұрын
@@ellenbrook2001Care to elaborate here? What is he supposed to do?
@jerrychicken967
@jerrychicken967 Ай бұрын
Remco didn't even finish. UAE have today won on Sunday with Cro Race and Agonstini. Last year we had Jumbo and this year we have UAE going mad. I don't know what's going on. Usually these things end in tears so hope we get back to normal competition soon where one Team isn't doing crazy stuff.
@andreasabels589
@andreasabels589 Ай бұрын
Maybe you should consider more that most teams will not get a good result when the peleton catches. Like Pidcock and Woods would probably not place as high as they did. Lidl-Trek had no chance to win with Ciccone, but maybe they had a chance to top5 when favorites like Remco and Roglic grind up their team and drop out early.
@RudolphWentzel-sy9sg
@RudolphWentzel-sy9sg Ай бұрын
Well said Chris..👍👍
@Kanonka28
@Kanonka28 Ай бұрын
Remco was crying: "Tadej will destroy my legacy, my legend !!"
@scullcap357
@scullcap357 Ай бұрын
Pogo cant be stopped , you can only hope to contain him ,
@cooldude.1811
@cooldude.1811 Ай бұрын
Merckx may still be the nominal GOAT in terms of his overall palmares. But how many victories did he win in such a dominant fashion, attacking from long range, and that too against the very best competition?
@ahnnahargrove1354
@ahnnahargrove1354 Ай бұрын
Eddy has already told Tadej that the kid has beaten him... Now Tadej is his idol...
@nigelstead8424
@nigelstead8424 Ай бұрын
Tbf he did on a number of occasions, especially earlier on in his career. On the Tre Cime Lavaredo at the 1968 Giro. In the Tour in the 1969 with a 100 km solo attack to Mourenz in the Pyrenees. The 1969 RVV, a 73 km attack & he won by 5,36. The 1970 Pars-Roubaix, in bad weather he attacked with 25 km to go and won by 5 minutes. Many other examples, but I think Eddy has conceded that Pog is better than he was.
@bojandolinar1535
@bojandolinar1535 Ай бұрын
​@@nigelstead8424 No, he didn't, he clarified later what he really meant.
@jaspermeinema4830
@jaspermeinema4830 Ай бұрын
Eddy got the same reaction as tp now, boring racing, which he then didn't understand. Because his heroes who raced in 50ies and early sixties got glorified because of these long solo wins. However, they got glorified on radio commentary. People switching on the tv with him already on his own got bored watching him solo 2,5 hours on the screen. Radio commentary made a habit of make up stories to keep listeners on the edge of their seats. Tv images don't lie. Change of times.
@nigelstead8424
@nigelstead8424 Ай бұрын
Ok. I haven’t seen that. Only the original comments he made last Sunday night. I’ll go look for them.
@milhouse53
@milhouse53 Ай бұрын
Well why Chris always says "get organized and hold time on Tadej". They chased with whole Belgian team hard..went thru riders and then Remco was there too. They "held" time - it was 40 sec for 100km no much more or less. What else there to do?? They can all get organized they want..but as long as the course fits Tadej, meaning it has sections where he can put 30 sec on anyone, the race is over
@QPSQUANTUM424
@QPSQUANTUM424 Ай бұрын
Great points!
@lukebastiras4666
@lukebastiras4666 Ай бұрын
It wasn’t just about Team Belgium though if you watched Chris’ analysis on the worlds. Remco burnt all his guys early on and also a lot of the riders from other countries like Netherlands who could’ve put some solid work in on the flatter sections.
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling Ай бұрын
What Luke just said, is correct. Milhouse misunderstood T🦋E video on the men’s 2024 WC race. Remco didn’t just put his team on the front. He put his team on the front and blew his team up to early. Two laps at least is what Remco needed from his teammates and from the Netherlands team is what I said. The very short version anyways. 🤪🦋💥🇧🇪💣👊
@milhouse53
@milhouse53 Ай бұрын
@ChrisHornerCycling no no i watched the analysis, Chris! I see your point but I had a suggestion that had Belgium rode tempo for even one more lap, some let's say 1-2 of them would still fall back and Tadej and Pavel would be 1:30-1:45 head instead of 30 sec (which is where that "Belgian team blowing" got them REMCO after blowing his team had to close the last 20-30 sec himself, if he is a rider #2. But he was not. Nobody was #2 there
@milhouse53
@milhouse53 Ай бұрын
@lukebastiras4666 i know Luke you saying what Chris said, and of course it is more correct because I don't argue with the pro. It just seems Remco knew everyone looks at him..and if he didn't put his team on the front then Tadej would ride away with close to 2 min ahead (like he did today btw) and then Remco would never catch him. He tried then and it was the correct move. Question is if his team blows apart after 10 hard km of riding and they can't close 30 sec on a lone rider, they should go back to training. Which Remco kinda did today
@VancouverHeartHealth
@VancouverHeartHealth Ай бұрын
I love that retro Colorado cyclist bell razor almost as much I love all the knuckleheads that make racing interesting.
@thesuperheroteacher6101
@thesuperheroteacher6101 Ай бұрын
Sir be on form doesn't mean you have to be on top on every stage especially the last Vuelta. On form is a general condition not a stage by stage evaluation.
@rogelio6993
@rogelio6993 Ай бұрын
throttle on, throttle off...increasingly disconnected from the narration. 🤣 Vroom Vroom
@Simonewhitesim-1music
@Simonewhitesim-1music Ай бұрын
Yay🎉🎉 Chris got a cool Turkish dawg 🎉
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling Ай бұрын
👊🦋
@markgrenier6787
@markgrenier6787 Ай бұрын
The best line ever was his tongue hanging out like 125 pound Anotolian Shepard. I almost clogged a Pepsi in my nose.
@markmcinnes8244
@markmcinnes8244 Ай бұрын
Yeah, all those knuckleheads who aren't 66kg with an FTP of 480w.
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling Ай бұрын
Got to love a 480 watt FTP 😱🦋💪
@J-cz7yv
@J-cz7yv Ай бұрын
Haven’t watched video yet but already know Chris is gonna light up Lidl Trek for doing any work ever lol.
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling Ай бұрын
The coaching is working. 👊🦋💪🔥💥
@J-cz7yv
@J-cz7yv Ай бұрын
lol I watched the video now and damn Chris.. give Matteo 1 more chance to ride on someone else’s wheel! “How many times he needs to get smacked in the face” just 1 more. Please only 1 more. Matteo is a great rider but he needs to pick his moves better. Tough when Tadej is in the race
@smimi2333
@smimi2333 Ай бұрын
I don’t think the astana move was bad, not having a favorite they tried to anticipate hoping they would get 10-20 seconds on the group so, when pogacar attacked, maybe their rider was able to go over the top of the climb with him and, similar to what sivakov did in zurich, maybe pogacar would keep the breakaway companion with him for a lap or two, giving them a solid chance of finishing on the podium
@thisishowthetruthdies684
@thisishowthetruthdies684 Ай бұрын
If Pog keeps riding like this will teams have to put most of their eggs in an early break basket and pray for the best? Clearly tempoing a climb is the stupidest thing for them to do.
@starkparker16
@starkparker16 Ай бұрын
It's like a team needs to never ride the front, wait until Tadej is up the road for a while then team trial their way up to the Slovenian. Easier said than done. 🛋️🦋
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling Ай бұрын
Exactly that. It wouldn’t always work. But it would work sometimes and it would work to keep Pogi closer and the action together longer. 👊🦋
@acemodean
@acemodean Ай бұрын
I dont remember that lotto jersey. I like it.
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling Ай бұрын
👍🦋👊
@Wds__99
@Wds__99 Ай бұрын
It’s not about the back having bad tactics. Tadej is just flat out faster then.
@J-cz7yv
@J-cz7yv Ай бұрын
What was the deal with Remco?
@fan-2sport-nf3sz
@fan-2sport-nf3sz Ай бұрын
Same as Primoz.
@jaspercanda671
@jaspercanda671 Ай бұрын
2 golds
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling Ай бұрын
Good question 🤔🦋👍
@Lapsontheboy
@Lapsontheboy Ай бұрын
Pogi is a real space man,with his out of this world racing
@pauljaworski9386
@pauljaworski9386 Ай бұрын
hey Chris, what is the red brick structure that we see on the riders left, then their right? And, how is it on their left, then their right? :-)
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling Ай бұрын
Along the San Luca climb? That’s passage covered walk way that goes all the up to the summit. It leads to church or spiritual building at the top, Madonna sanctuary . 🤔🦋👊
@ethangodridge6833
@ethangodridge6833 Ай бұрын
What a ride from the Polti rider in 3rd
@JamisDuanne
@JamisDuanne Ай бұрын
You should do an end of. 2024 top knuckleheads 😂
@milanvanwelden9952
@milanvanwelden9952 Ай бұрын
ciccone actually won a stage in a sprint against primoz and remco uphill
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling Ай бұрын
Did his team ride all day before he won that sprint. 🤪🦋👊
@milanvanwelden9952
@milanvanwelden9952 Ай бұрын
@@ChrisHornerCycling :)
@milhouse53
@milhouse53 Ай бұрын
"Keep your teammates on the front" to beat Tadej? CHRIS, can you offer a plan? Thats not a plan. The "teammates" on Bora, or Visma can not keep pace, so Lipovitsz or Jorgenson have to try on their own. And when Tadej hits them so early 30-100km- it is over. It like trying to beat Usain Bolt.
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling Ай бұрын
You were on track Milhouse until you put up 100k to go. There you just plain lost it all. You should have stopped at 30k and the occasional 50k attack if the course is perfect. Just go back and watch stage 9 of the TdF. If you want to save time watch T🦋E on it to see how 100k out worked for Pogi. 🤪🦋👊💣
@milhouse53
@milhouse53 Ай бұрын
@ChrisHornerCycling i meant between those. 30 to a 100 A 100km worked this one time because it was ridiculous but also because there were 4 laps with climbs that no one can gain time on him. My main point it that Bora or Visma do not have riders who even together can catch him and he feels is and uses it. I know your point is "to create organized chases" which means that soon the top riders, the team leaders themselves will need to start doing- create a super team by agreement. I don't know what else to offer.
@unknown23hornet22
@unknown23hornet22 Ай бұрын
Jorgenson needs to let pogacar go and then try to create a small chase group. Then you have a chance, especially if there are teammates in that group. Jorgenson is trying to race like Jonas. He should be learning from van aert.
@l.a.kornell4498
@l.a.kornell4498 Ай бұрын
I don't blame the riders as much as you do; I blame the DS's in the cars for not working out a deal for their teams to work together to keep up with Pogi.
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling Ай бұрын
I blame the DS’ all the time. Even today I said it was trek DS. But in the end it’s the rider that’s on the front with the camera looking at him pulling. And video doesn’t lie…… much. 🤪😂🦋👊🎥
@dr.merlot1532
@dr.merlot1532 Ай бұрын
Pog will lapp the field next week.
@alesksander
@alesksander Ай бұрын
Blue flags needed LOL
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling Ай бұрын
🔥🦋👊🌈
@1121sonnyblue
@1121sonnyblue Ай бұрын
How to beat Tadej? Only if Tadej makes a mistake in his nutrition during the race.
@jaspercanda671
@jaspercanda671 Ай бұрын
Steal his bottles and foods 🤣
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling Ай бұрын
Yep. That always helps. Or a race that’s a bit less climbing. Like MSR. 👊🦋
@davidfrye7713
@davidfrye7713 Ай бұрын
His training has changed this past year to make him more fat adapted. Even no calories may make little difference, as long a he can get water! He has been training after fasting with no calories during the ride (or at least for a long enough period into the ride to deplete glycogen). That allows you to rapidly change from using glucose to using ketones with little to no effect from bonking.
@1121sonnyblue
@1121sonnyblue Ай бұрын
@@ChrisHornerCycling and we all saw during the TDF that every time there is a downhill, he pours a bottle of water into his head. Cools down the body faster because as he speeds up down hill. Smarter now.
@claire2088
@claire2088 Ай бұрын
Roglic caught food poisoning (or another stomach bug) at the end of the vuelta, it went alllll around Bora the Bora team and after the Vuelta he said he'd been running to the toilet too 😬 must have been a miserable day to be racing his bike! Probably took a bit out of him (I know some people get past food poisoning pretty quickly, like a few days, while others will feel weak for a bit longer and have an unsettled stomach for a few weeks, and for a pro cyclist not being able to fuel would be a real detriment)
@Oscaraha
@Oscaraha Ай бұрын
The norwegian commentator Theis Magelssen compared Remco to a kid that just had to hit a beehive with a stick. It didnt work out very well now, did it?
@derickcastillo9083
@derickcastillo9083 Ай бұрын
How do you beat Pogi? It seems like there is just a race for second.
@guitawrizt
@guitawrizt Ай бұрын
the 'Scourge' that is Pogacar.
@florianfeldwisch1750
@florianfeldwisch1750 Ай бұрын
I disagree in the regard of bad tatctics generally. There were poor tactics yesterday, but there are 3 riders in the race, that can win it - Pogi, Remco, Rogla - so the other teams have to have different goals, like to podium. So chasing Pogi is stupid for them, since their plans don't include him from the begining. I understand the funny thing about the knucklehead saying, but i think it is a little exagerated.
@ExpertYouTubeCommentator
@ExpertYouTubeCommentator Ай бұрын
They knew it was hopeless, hence the retirement...it is a boycott
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling Ай бұрын
Probably was the cold wet and the fact that they all got to race again soon. And pogi 🥶☔️🌧️🌈👊🦋💪
@mustafajoseph134
@mustafajoseph134 Ай бұрын
"Knucklehead button". Mos Def
@JoseJrOntanillas
@JoseJrOntanillas Ай бұрын
What happened to remco?
@fan-2sport-nf3sz
@fan-2sport-nf3sz Ай бұрын
Same as with Primoz.
@QPSQUANTUM424
@QPSQUANTUM424 Ай бұрын
He blew up and didn't finish. Same with Primoz.
@Kissybear85
@Kissybear85 Ай бұрын
"Since 2020 noone has figued out how to beat Tadej Pogacar" *Sad Vingegaard noises*
@Maestrodeluniverso
@Maestrodeluniverso Ай бұрын
Chris, what are you talking about curse?
@QPSQUANTUM424
@QPSQUANTUM424 Ай бұрын
The curse is for the peleton, not Pogi!
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling Ай бұрын
😂🦋
@recrevs963
@recrevs963 Ай бұрын
Do you think Pogačar can repeat such a season again meaning match it or improve lets say next year or this is the peak?
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling Ай бұрын
He can still focus on doing the actual triple (the real triple, not this made up thing that they currently call the triple ;) and that would surpass this season. 🤔🦋💪👊
@ZENmud
@ZENmud Ай бұрын
I (thought I) heard that Tadej thought, "It would be fun" to run the Tour and La Vuelta next year...?😅
@lennycottingham
@lennycottingham Ай бұрын
I think there should be a "Solerism of the year" award
@dickieblench5001
@dickieblench5001 Ай бұрын
How many times can he win Lombardi?
@dizyaster7700
@dizyaster7700 Ай бұрын
10
@orangeorphan
@orangeorphan Ай бұрын
Chris, do you think this is good racing from the entertainment side? I find it frustrating watching Pog ride solo for an hour while the second group attacks itself.
@Aya33-xX
@Aya33-xX Ай бұрын
Do you want Vingagarda to do solo ride 😊?
@orangeorphan
@orangeorphan Ай бұрын
@@Aya33-xX no, the point I was trying to make is that I don’t want to know who the winner is an hour or two before the race ends. I want close racing. I want to be kept in suspense for as long as possible. I really don’t care who wins as long as it’s exciting.
@rafalpruszynski1707
@rafalpruszynski1707 Ай бұрын
Jorgenson isnt particularly smart
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling Ай бұрын
He gives good racing interviews about the races. And during Paris he was money against Remco tactically on the final stage. I guess he needs more time racing against Pogi before he believes Pogi is way faster. 🤔🦋🤪
@studiofranky158
@studiofranky158 Ай бұрын
so anyone who shows up in front and isn't Pogi, or just tries something, is a "knucklehead "? Ahhh got it!
@hernanhernandez3861
@hernanhernandez3861 Ай бұрын
Pogi is beatable. We just need to think how...
@lorenwillis425
@lorenwillis425 Ай бұрын
Top Ten!😀
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling Ай бұрын
Bam 👊🦋
@hernanhernandez3861
@hernanhernandez3861 Ай бұрын
Matteo got burnt by the sun...
@mattsammekull780
@mattsammekull780 Ай бұрын
Do we know why Remco abandoned the race?
@mumblerapkilla5406
@mumblerapkilla5406 Ай бұрын
Saving legs for Lombardia
@mattsammekull780
@mattsammekull780 Ай бұрын
@@mumblerapkilla5406 Seriously?
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