THE CYBERTRUCK IS FINALLY HERE - a Truck Owners Thoughts

The Cybertruck has arrived. Different than expected in many ways... but still a BEAST of a machine that I cant wait to get my hands on. As a truck owner myself, who drives an Electric Truck, I have a few thoughts about the Tesla delivory event. And I have a few opinions on how the Cybertruck will be able to handle being an actual truck... Check out the Electric Jetski factory here: • How To Build an Electr...
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[@iRaphahell]

I am wondering if the Cybertruck will pass EU Regulations for Pedestrian Safety, it doesn't have the plastic bumpers and if someone is being hit by it, it's gonna be pretty bad.

[@Oaieee]

te pup rafaeleee

[@RobloxMasterOfAll]

it won't iraphahele

[@megatronskneecap]

It wasn't so much that I was worried about at first. It's the fact the thing is bulletproof. Cool at first but in an accident where it requires you to be physically cut out of the car there is no way todo that safely here.

[@sweetpoison4228]

Ce faci vere

[@Rare_K_]

No, it won't pass EU regulations for that or for 20 other reasons.

[@metacob]

I think this is great news for people who get into firefights a lot or who need to take their truck into outer space.

[@smallbutdeadly931]

Chicago

[@bignorbert1136]

Musk said delivery to Martian customers should start next year.

[@zoemakesmusic]

​@@bignorbert1136the fact that this is actually something Elon would probably say makes this way funnier than it should be

[@JuanPellat]

probably good for Sinaloa cartel fights, prob will see many in Mazatlan and Ciudad Juarez

[@ericb9687]

Specifically firefights that avoid windows being hit lol

[@WHATSINSIDEFAMILY]

Who’s done more in the last 4 years? Zack in his family or Elon on Cybertruck?

[@ewoggerts]

definitely Zack

[@henrydendorf4847]

lol

[@MohammadAli-00798]

elon

[@Pwn3dbyth3n00b]

Considering Elon is tanking a Billion+ dollar company, Twitter, I'd say Elon is doing a lot of sink shipping during that time.

[@aayana7900]

​@@Pwn3dbyth3n00byou're fun at parties

[@YourArmsGone]

The stats on the Cybertruck are inline with other electric vehicles, I'm more interested in seeing the Implementation. Crash tests, actual battery range, handling, and convenience.

[@gandalf5895]

if EVs have told us anything about marketing vs reality, it's that actual battery range very rarely exceeds 80% of what the manufacturer claims. I'd love to see a range test of this truck with two people inside and a bed full of cargo.

[@MrProy33]

Hauling capacity, towing power, and range are the only concerns I have in a truck. Tesla fails all 3 tests for me.

[@-Nathan87-]

Mount the spare tire underneath after the truck gets lifted. Problem solved

[@masterkamen371]

​​@@gandalf5895which is exactly why electric trucks are still quite horrible as real work vehicles. Towing something or hauling a bunch of cargo takes off like 300 mi off the range. I'd imagine this to be very important in the US. The electric truck concept could theoretically work for me, as an electrician in Europe. Distances are rarely over 20km. But they are still way too large for our streets, there would be no way to park it in the city. The cybertruck wouldn't even be able to carry my toolboxes. For us, "caddy" form factor cars and smaller vans will always make more sense as work vehicles. Not to mention these trucks are way too expensive for 90% of small businesses in my country. Cybertruck seems to be a toy for the average American who never does any work but owns an F-150.

[@terrycruise-zd5tw]

have fun towing something with an ev and then trying to fit into a charging station. gurantee youll never want to do it again@@masterkamen371

[@KilledByThatTrain]

I wonder how long the main control screen can hold up under the lighter test

[@rihasanatrofolo2472]

This is what we need

[@WhiteLivesMatterPL]

I typed in cyberjunk and this popped up. Good job YT.

[@agent57]

Yesss tech teardown. How long until you release a cyber truck x-ray skin? 😂

[@amubi]

You need buy army tank for it

[@Kendo47Wowgeek]

The stainless steel being able to not shatter when dipped in liquid nitrogen has no bearings on any real use case. But the metal shell does raise questions when it comes to crash safety. It may be completely safe for the people in the truck but what about in a pedestrian/bicycle/motorcycle collision? It seems likely to cause more damage in those cases.

[@_Dimon_]

It's not safe for people in the truck either. Have you seen the crash test video?

[@diegoaltemirhace6anos907]

@@OpenWebChat exactly, they are way bigger, they make way more noise, way slower... that truck is electric, so you wont be able to hear as well as a huge garbage truck, it can accelerate pretty fast, its way smaller too. More people are able to drive that tesla, so more accidents too,etc

[@brasileiroloko5375]

​​@@OpenWebChatdude it needs crumple zones

[@XA--pb9ni]

Most american answer@@OpenWebChat

[@PyCoder82]

The issue would be other cars too. Just check some suv vs small cars crash tests. Now imagine the cybertruck crashing into a car like a fiat 500 or Toyota corolla or even into a small suv.

[@rich8669]

The plastic "box" hanging under the bed is just for reducing aero drag. Kyle Connor showed a view under it and there is a gap. So it could be replaced with a skid plate that relieves some of the clearance, but expect a modest reduction in efficiency.

[@Fishpig79]

@jerryrigeverything

[@wheelsonfire1982]

What about the rear steering? Could that contribute to the bulk under the truck?

[@jspiro]

And it could double as a step

[@JonnyFlash80]

Efficiency?! The thing weighs over 6800 lbs; more than two Honda Civics.

[@807800]

@@JonnyFlash80 That's even more reason for the focus on efficiency.

[@nicolasgauthier5359]

It's fun to present "304 stainless" as "space grade material". It is a very common alloy: Most kitchen pans and food grade metal stuff is generally made out it (resists acidic food corrosion)

[@inv4der1]

It's a special alloy designed by Tesla and SpaceX it's the same metal that starship uses, so that's why it's space grade. This material doesn't corrodes.

[@HyviaVideoitaMansenlale]

Space grade basicly means it can exist in outer space, nothing more nothing less.

[@ShubhendraSingh2808]

You need to read up why there was a need to make a new alloy for SpaceX starship. It is not the same as the stainless steel pan in our kitchen.

[@nicolasgauthier5359]

​@@ShubhendraSingh2808 The video stated "304 stainless" though. Which is a standardized blend of iron, nickel and chromium mostly.

[@nicolasgauthier5359]

@@inv4der1 "Doesn't corrodes" is a funny statement. Most "stainless" or "corrosion-resistant" metals do in fact corrode very fast, but the density of the oxidized layer is close enough to that of the original material that it does not crack and quickly forms a protection layer preventing the propagation of the reaction. I do love what SpaceX is doing with the starships, but please don't get that deep into the hype-machine that you think they make magic unvelnerable "stainless 304"

[@THE_Game_Mental]

6:32 He said it, he said the thing!

[@saidchammas]

4:35 bro did not answer the question

[@semidemiurge]

Now do a video on the negatives of stainless steel and why almost no auto manufacturer uses it.

[@theipc-twizzt2789]

Those are basically all production related so it doesnt really matter for the buyer. Also: replace stainless steel with batteries. Same argument.

[@AgusSimoncelli]

​@@theipc-twizzt2789no, they're lots of issues that it'll bring to the costumer, and to other ppl when it eventually crashes. Batteries are used by basically every car manufacturer now, there is basically no major csr brand that doesn't have an EV now, so your point makes no sense

[@damienguy501]

Fixing dents will be a nightmare, and the truck will be a giant heat suck in the winter, but bulletproof!

[@theipc-twizzt2789]

@@AgusSimoncelli You could have made the same comment 10 years ago. No one was using batteries. "Experts" said it wasnt doable. Surely you can list a few issues.

[@tiborklein5349]

@@theipc-twizzt2789 Nobody said it wasn't doable. The first cars ever made were electric. Stop acting like Elon invented it.

[@AzarathGirl123]

Never thought 304 stainless steel would be presented as a super material 😅

[@Jeddin]

It’s not 304. The limiting factor has a video on the patents Tesla has out on its unique formulation.

[@milohdd]

@@Jeddin Ohh so it's 'special' steel?

[@Jeddin]

@@milohdd I’m not sure if you are being sarcastic. But I’ll answer your remark with a serious answer. The development is steel alloys is an extremely complicated field generating continuous improvement in the steel properties despite it being known for thousands of years. If you simplify steel to variables to only carbon content by weight and the temperature you can form a range of different of steel microstructures such as ferrite, austenite and cementite. You have a wide range of temperatures and carbon percentage than you can vary which will form steel alloys with different properties. Further more if you introduce a time element during the steel formation for any given carbon composition you get Time-temperature-transformation plots which are used to further used to further alter the microstructure such that the desired mechanical properties are attained. So with just the most basic variables of carbon composition, time and temperature you can get an extremely complex variety of steel. Plus you can add further elements into the steel alloy to alter the properties even more such as adding in Mn. That’s how you get different varieties of “special” steel. They can be classified in groups such as Austenitic high-Mn steels, Austenitic multiphase steels (e.g. MMnS and Q&P steel), Ferritic single phase steels, Ferritic multiphase Steels. So yes there are all sorts of “special” steels out there. That’s why companies hire metallurgists and material science PhD’s to devise proprietary formulations that they patent for their own use such as what Tesla has done

[@andrasbiro3007]

It's not the composition what makes it's special, but the work hardening they do at the factory. That's what makes it super strong. And then the trick is bending it without damage.

[@astro143_]

One thing about stainless, it can rust, especially when exposed to regular steels. Stainless has an outside layer similar to aluminum oxide that's the "Stainless" part. a good scratch can contaminate stainless and then you have a nucleation site for rust to form. As one of my field service techs tell me, it's stainLESS, not stain won't.

[@fgabrieltomas]

All those deloreans are rusting buckets i hear

[@lbgstzockt8493]

Saying „stainless steel“ is like saying „metal“. There are dozens of flavors of stainless steel with drastically different properties.

[@iamaduckquack]

That's why it's called stain LESS, not stain never.

[@Brathize]

@@iamaduckquack less in stainless means without off, same as Flawless or worthless, the latter describes the value of your english knowledge.

[@muhammad-bin-american]

I was about to ask about rust when I saw your comment. I'll be curious to know how this thing handles salt.

[@sheabrown]

The higher voltage architecture also contributes to the weight savings as the lower current means that thinner conductors can be used in the high voltage wiring.

[@whattheschmidt]

Don't forget the low voltage is 48V too, saving low voltage wiring weight too.

[@thegarageluthier]

Yep that will save you all of 10kg if that 😅

[@kylep506]

@@jpf1978 aye hes not wrong though lmaoo

[@frogonket]

4:41 ummmm... you gonna give it back

[@dyworking]

He admits he has not driven, sat in a production cybertruck yet and he says its on par with the lightning and rivian. 😂

[@Karnakthemagnificent]

He was talking about the auxiliary power.

[@naninano8813]

the most impressive thing about cybertruck is how every influencer change their tune from 'bitter disappointment' to 'revolutionary' in 24 hours all on their own. lol

[@3nertia]

"all on their own", yeah, sure ...

[@seventeenseventythirteen7465]

I mean when someone gives you what is essentially a free new car to talk about they're probably going to change their tune from unbaised reviewer to fanboy of a man who's fanbase might literally kill them if they upset their tech daddy.

[@Haarschmuckfachgeschafttadpole]

@@seventeenseventythirteen7465 They have to give it back as far as I know

[@cooliipie]

It's all about clicks

[@mekullag]

who are these nameless influencers? Haven´t seen one person calling it revolutionary. Most unserious takes are still that it´s a joke, the serious ones seem to say it has some perks and some weaknesses and is damn expensive.

[@geraltofrivian516]

You’re getting a lot of hate online I saw on Twitter from Tesla stans, which I think is unfair because you’re right on point. This is not what was promised on range or price.

[@ireallyreallyreallylikethisimg]

yup, tesla needs to be sued by investors for false advertising to be honest.

[@sur83848]

Lol that’s because focusing on price or range is idiotic when ignoring the game changing or innovative features. EVERYTHING is more expensive now. This guy is a fool, along ppl like Andy Slye. Unfortunately not smart, has nothing to do with being a fanboy, one only needs to look at facts to give this truck a fair comparison

[@blessken]

@@sur83848 shill detected

[@j.jsamra]

@@sur83848 as MKBHD said. there is no innovation on the cybertruck just took things that already existed and made it work really well. that being said. Zack and alot of other youtubers criticisms are correct. And their praises are also correct. I see the cybertruck as a suburban dad truck. actual truck drivers wont switch to this.

[@EzraM5]

@@sur83848 Okay fanboy.

[@DaveQZ85]

They’re charging $400 per ramp (you’ll need two) instead. You’d think for $800 they’d make it an optional built-in tailgate function.

[@DaveQZ85]

@@neganthevegan7138 True. I was thinking of the quad they had in the unveil event. And if they're making a full width ramp, it's be the equivalent of getting two. Sure it was a prototype for the unveil but clearly they made a decent version of it. If anyone could refine it, it's the engineers at Tesla. I think they took it off the base design to keep the price low. So make it an add-on extra for the people that really need it. Like what they did with the range extender.

[@davidzambrano9126]

That would mean having a different stamping. Teslas whole thing is less parts and sticking with 1 mold which reduces manufacturing costs.

[@DaveQZ85]

@@davidzambrano9126 At least it would be reduced to just a new tailgate part. They have to make completely separate tooling for this ladder ramp accessory now anyway. Unless someone else makes it for them and Tesla just sells it. At least with a tailgate ramp they can keep some level of part and interface commonality.

[@carperdiem8754]

That tailgate ramp was destined to fail. Can you imagine trying to slide it back in while covered in mud

[@lamaadministrator2595]

Jerry, are you not cold in the winter in just a t shirt?

[@jonasfermefors]

I'm curious about crash tests. I heard the designers say they removed internal structure because the exterior provided so much rigidity.. but there is a reason cars have stopped doing that: crumple zones and on the crash test I've seen it doesn't look like the front crumples properly in a direct frontal collision.

[@dimitri0404]

There are crash tests on KZbin.

[@juststeve5542]

Rigidity is a 1950s answer to car "safety". Vehicle stops dead and all the passengers splatter over the interior! But nobody can tell Elmo about building cars (or anything else), because he knows everything... BTW, friend has a late model, model S... Under 20K miles... It's on its second front motor, 2nd rear suspension, 3rd set of front drive shafts. he goes through drive shafts faster than tyres! 🤣 And he doesn't even drive like an idiot! I don't think he's going to keep it when it's out of warranty! And people were worried about battery longevity 🤣

[@jonasfermefors]

@@dimitri0404 Yes, and they don't look ideal.. it crumples less than most vehicles would, but they are at relatively low speed, so it's not conclusive.

[@Jimbogf]

@@juststeve5542 I call bs with your comment.

[@juststeve5542]

@@Jimbogf Fine. I don't care, I'm hardly going to dox myself, or my friend, to convince some stranger on the internet.

[@obsidian7644]

I've programmed and setup cnc benders for a decade, to bend 304 Stainless steel is rough, I can tell you it's ridiculously hard to work with. Many a tooling has been lost trying to make even the simplest of bends.

[@maaz6912]

that's why it doesn't have a lot of bends 🤔

[@Ssshortman]

Tesla had to develop a new process, which they call "air bending" for CT production, to avoid the problems you mention.

[@onestepclosertoheaven7347]

As a machinist who works at Tesla. Trust me, I watched our press brake machines crack trying to bend this steel. Our first year of working on the cybertruck was Insanely difficult to bend.

[@alanmay7929]

@@Ssshortman are you a bot!? they have developped nothing! its actually not that hard to bend! those angles are not that complex to begin with.

[@alanmay7929]

@@onestepclosertoheaven7347 lol.......

[@alighirban]

@4:30 Hey jerry 😂😂

[@Stanley-px3bt]

The Pontiac Aztek is no longer the ugliest vehicle ever produced.

[@GFourGadget]

The only guy with valid opinion towards any kind of truck - Zack 👌

[@Skylancer727]

Not sure why you mean when you say gas trucks are miles behind it. There's gas trucks that are lighter, can go farther, and carry more. The advantages the EVs have is more torque, ability to charge at home, and generally faster. I don't think that makes it objectively better.

[@enigma9789]

Its a funny saying since ICE trucks are literally miles ahead of an electric truck waiting for a charger to open up.

[@milandulic]

In reality electric cars are miles behind normal combustion engine cars and electric trucks can't even compare with ICE trucks since only advantage is straight line speed which is least important thing in such vehicle🤷‍♂️

[@brucemacneil]

Oh yea - objectively better for sure.

[@mgracia526]

He’s probably sponsored by Rivian. I wouldn’t take seriously a person that has to have clicks to make a living

[@TheSpongiform]

Maybe start phasing out federal subsidies on gas & oil and shift that over to electric and charging.

[@goxy287]

I know stainless steel can resist the outer space... but the question is how much of a death trap the cybertruck is in a crash with such a rigid structure

[@cho4d]

i'm sure you could take a wetstone to it and create quite a knife edge on it hah. get out of my way peasants!!

[@protocolsev]

@@cho4dWho needs crumple zones? It's all about slice zones now

[@yuuki7749]

if you checked the crash test video for the cybertruck it's not that bad. however, it's gonna deal a great amount of damage to anything it crashes into.

[@goxy287]

@@yuuki7749 its not that good either, if you look at the other similar sized truck crash tests the dummies endure way less forces.

[@NickleForYourThoughts]

one of my thoughts too, i hope we dont see some major issues in the future with people dying because of its build. its also extremely ugly lol

[@Maintenance_Mark]

0:10 Seconds into the video you can see and industrial robot installing a glass panel on the cyber truck. I work in Industrial automation and I must point out that the glass is spinning at least 180 degrees possibly more but we did not get to see the robots full installation cycle. It looks like the panel may have been spun more than 180 degrees which costs money to program and takes more time. Either way this is extremely inefficient and adds a ton of wear and tear to the robot as well as increasing the overall cycle time of that station. You should have the product packaged and arranged at the cell in such a way that you simply lift and install the panel instead of doing all that cool looking spinning stuff in the air. The robot could malfunction and drop the panel or send it flying... There are so many reasons to NOT spin the panel more than you MUST.

[@Maintenance_Mark]

@@neganthevegan7138 that does sound like a reasonable answer on the surface but being that I program these robots I understand that it was just running through its normal work cycle minus a few processes. Basically someone just omitted the pickup and sit down functions and had it running through the rest of the program. It's possible that they hired a programmer to come back and program the robot to do a similar procedure to its cycle except spin around in the air a bunch for show. But it's more likely that they just ran it and it's normal cycle and that rotation is what it will do during normal production. Then again on second thought Elon Musk loves exaggerating claims and media hype so I guess he is the exact business owner that wouldn't mind paying thousands of dollars for extra programming just to make his robot spin around during a factory tour 😂

[@IR-xy3ij]

From what I know, all 13 of the delivered cybertrucks were handbuilt. The factory was not in production at all and there was even the possibility that they hadn't figured out the programming of the robots yet. We may not see a meaningful production volume until around this time next year.

[@iammattjones]

Ok coming from a gas truck owner, that uses it for daily driving, work (hauling a tractor, excavator, equipment, etc), and for play (camping and off-road adventures, there is no electric truck that is "miles ahead" in any category. My truck can haul my equipment for 300+miles, refill in 10 minutes, drop off the trailer, carry 2 5gallon cans for an extra 200 miles of range off-road, and then come home and take me to get dinner, all that for spending 20 minutes at a gas station. And then I can do it all over again without a 8-12 hour recharge. These trucks are fine for daily drivers and trips to home Depot for some bags of dirt. Not a thing wrong with that. But hauling 10k pounds one way to a job and being out of range and not able to get home, is out of the question. But, even with the daily commuter, there are times when I'm out and drive over the range of an electric truck, and I'd be stuck. So no, they are not miles ahead, they are electric cars shaped like trucks. It's a different category.

[@charlesurrea1451]

I'm just glad to see the trailer manufacturers are getting smart and putting in electric assist.

[@pandaDotDragon]

0:15 1 cybertruck = 1 wife + 2 kids 😅

[@rgabdulmannan]

Llol

[@TKAT.]

How is it ahead of gas trucks when it doesn't do any of the things you would want a truck for?

[@Greendyes_E]

You say that like 95% of trucks on the road are doing anything else than act like Karen & Kyle's grocery getter

[@marekhlavackovi3677]

@@Greendyes_E a lot of people own truck for the 20 days a year they need it, but drive it every time because they don´t want to buy second car.

[@AgusSimoncelli]

​@@marekhlavackovi3677a tiny minority of ppl probably. Most pol buying a truck won't actually use it as a truck. And i would wager that someone that's spending 80k on an electric truck already has another vehicle

[@Kacpa2]

Why do you need it to be as resistant at temperatures you will never ever be able to encounter in real life?

[@blackbearelectronicswithco9541]

You should install a geothermal heat pump for your bunker. The hole is already dug, so you might as well. Heat pumps would be a very clean, green, renewable source of energy

[@MoonBerryShrimp]

Geothermal needs WAY deeper

[@martypingel5423]

​@MoonBerryShrimp not true.

[@Kytetiger]

@@MoonBerryShrimp depends on the system. some heat pumps work with pipes going 1m deep. others need circuit at a depth of 10m.

[@JoshWright396]

It would need to either be much deeper, or much wider. If you’re doing a shallow circuit, it needs to be spread over a large area.

[@andrewlux8418]

Who tf is gonna simp for mother earth in a survival scenario? I'll be burning tires for warmth

[@chadhall7115]

I love the casual raising the question of where he got a cybertruck battery cell without addressing it and the misquote of Princess Bride. You're videos are the best Zack!😂

[@emildjoseph]

1:10 epic troll 😅

[@szortalini]

First time i hear the stainless doesn't "rust". Yes, it doesnt go brown and crunchy, but have many of its own problems. Shout out to anyone who worked with old stainless bolts without ceramic grease or which touched the normal steel and got stuck. I had to cut out many of the stainless bolts.

[@masterkamen371]

A local galvanization plant has 3 spare stainless steel electrical boxes ready at all times. They get corroded to the point of the steel turning into dust after a month or two. So the solution is to have "drop-in" boxes.

[@arshadshaik7644]

Getting a lot of content by zack is so delightful keep em coming..

[@RogueJedi501]

Wonder how emergency services will deal with the cybertruck. If the cybertruck hits a pick up truck, or even a sedan, those vehicles are getting destroyed. And if the glass is really strong how will emergency services get into it to help anyone in a dangerous situation?

[@huetran4361]

It is not armour glass anymore

[@dimitri0404]

Don't worry, the cybertruck has no crumple zone, anyone in a cybertruck at the moment of collision will be dead anyway.

[@MedInHeaven]

@@dimitri0404 Why do all the videos show it having a crumple zone? Phillip.

[@dmurray2978]

Car accidents never happened prior to the release of cybertruck

[@IR-xy3ij]

​@@dimitri0404But it has crumple zones

[@KM-bv3fp]

These electric trucks are “miles ahead of their ice counterparts… unless you are a long haul trucker.” Well played! 😂

[@greg.peepeeface]

truth

[@Blindy_The_Bat]

Since I am currently driving a 24 year old S10 with 200k miles, it is probably going to be a while before I drive an EV, but it is still fascinating to see how far EV's have come, And yes, I want to see a Cybertruck durability tested.

[@KK-eg3em]

My very first vehicle was an 82 F150, nicknamed "the beast." It got 7 mpg. Luckily gas wasn't expensive in 97.

[@trondbolme5435]

I would rather buy your car than the cyber pos any day of the week. I don't want to ride around in an internet-on-wheels cancer box.

[@IRLSuperb]

@@trondbolme5435 OK hill billy (who hates EVs and is paranoid about their cell phones and technology) no one asked you.

[@Crackerjuice75]

My 03 f150 gets 14mpg, in the last 5 years I've spent roughly 14k on gas. Compare that to the roughly 67MPGe I'm guessing we will see with cybertruck *$3,600 in electric cost= $10,400 saved on fuel if you home charge. Add in additional ICE cost for maintenance like brakes, oil changes, tune-ups... A couple grand more. Someone who puts 50 miles a day on a pickup could do pretty well owning a dual-motor, let alone the single motor version.

[@jonnadler628]

@@Crackerjuice75 While the Cyber Truck and Rivian are very cool vehicles, they are not as efficient as everyone claims. You need to compare Apples to Apples. Comparing a 2003 F150 to a Cyber Truck is an unfair advantage in that engine technology has changed in 20 years. So for argument sake - a 2023 F150 XLT is $46,000 on average compared to the Cyber Truck average $80,000. That's a $36,000 savings you need to make up in fuel. Now let's look at fuel. The 2023 F150 can go approximately 520 miles on a 26 gallon tank as it's average MPG between city (17) and highway (26) is 20MPG. The Cybertruck has a range of approximately 320 miles on a 122 kwh battery at an estimated efficiency of 2.6mi/kwh. Having driven electric cars, I don't suspect many will make the 2.6 mile mark, but then there are those that will crush it as well, so 2.6 is it for the average. So to go 520 miles, the Cyber Truck needs approximately 200kwh of battery. Now the fun part, fuel costs - The F150 at a national average of $3.10 per gallon of gas (as of 12/4/2023), costs approximately $80. They Cyber Truck, when powered solely at home, and powered to the equivalent 520 mile range the F150 has, cost $32 with the national home average electricity cost of $0.16 kwh, however, if you need to charge it while out for any reason, a full charge is going to go up to an average of $0.40 kwh, which brings your power cost up to $80 for a comparable 520 of range. But let's assume for a moment - you'll never need to charge outside your home, it will take 750 full fill ups to balance out the cost difference between a Cyber Truck and 2023 F150, equaling 390000 miles driven, or for the average person will need to go 26 years to see their savings. Sure - Full Disclosure, fuel prices will fluctuate, as will electricity prices, you can try to maximize your charging habits by only charging at certain times, but we're talking about over all for the masses. Am I saying electric trucks are no good - absolutely not. They are some of the coolest looking and very tech filled vehicles on the market, but as far as mass appeal, electric trucks are not efficient, just like long ago gas trucks were horribly inefficient. You can add in maintenance costs, but at 26 years to recoup your cost, you need to also potentially add in 2 batteries. TLDR - don't buy an electric truck or try to sell your electric purchase as doing your part for the environment or saving money in the long run, you're not and you won't. Buy it because you love it, it's a cool truck, you appreciate everything else it can do. Rant over.

[@Killbayne]

"steel shatters like glass" _performs a fucking hulk smash on it with a hammer_

[@Samuel-bd1ms]

2:32 steel is steel, and steel breaks (when subjected to liquid nitrogen temps).

[@remmett1088]

What makes you say at 7:56 that those electric trucks are miles ahead of their gas powered counter parts? Sure, I can see how there are some perks to an electric truck, but there are also perks ( if not more ) to a gas or diesel truck.

[@shnake_case]

0:49 you meant to say "it turns out all of those things are just lies"

[@kensmith5694]

Brittleness varies with alloy. You can get steel that is OK at extreme cold. Even in the arctic it becomes an issue. Also depending on the steel alloy and the aluminum alloy, you can have aluminum that is stronger than steel before even considering weight. Aluminum 7075-T6 is almost as strong as 304SS and weighs a lot less.

[@SurajKumar-vb1yu]

aluminium 7075-t6 is very and 304ss is very expensive 🤡🤡🤡

[@electricviking]

Not in a direct impact test it isn't - not even close.

[@daversj]

Anyone who works with stainless steel know how tough it is. Super tough difficult to work with. Apparently this thing does well in crashes because its so tough. That appeals to me as well. The stupid shaped bed…not so much. I’ll wait for the tesla van. Hopefully I’m not dead before it becomes a reality.

[@CricketEngland]

It’s only available in the USA because it wouldn’t pass U.K. passenger safety laws and I’d hate to think what European NCAP Rating it would get if it was available over in the U.K./Europe

[@TheXshot]

I think you meant pedestrian safety rules. But yeah, never gonna be in Europe.

[@davidjacobs6244]

Only Americans could like a vehicle design like that.Mad as hatters 🤣

[@James66344]

The car is absolutely massive too. It simply wouldn't fit on our roads.

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

True, Teslas will never be allowed to drive in Europe. With these newfangled battery thingies instead of true and trusted Diesel, with touchscreens that kill passengers in a crash, with yoke instead of a real wheel and with the same front as other trucks instead of a sedan front.

[@steve_1507]

I wonder if it would pass TÜV

[@Luka_Nogalo]

I was in great fear of my truck shattering at -300F thanks to Tesla and this video that is now a fear of the past!

[@bigstick6332]

Think of the cost of repair if that cyber truck is in an accident. It may damage less than aluminum but when it’s damaged the cost and repair time will be huge.

[@hetistijmen]

I'm sure Shadetree Bill will cut out the dented bit and weld a fresh plate over it. No need to do a fancy stainless TIG weld either since 304/A2 gets absolutely fucked by any chlorines in the environment anyway.

[@sebastianflynn1746]

It's a simple cut and weld job, nothing crazy

[@SupremeRuleroftheWorld]

panels can be replaced. if the castings are damaged its just like any other car or truck, its a total loss. no diffence there so its not fair to ding it for something every other car also has to deal with.

[@hetistijmen]

@@sebastianflynn1746 hey I found Bill! How you doing man? Let me know how those SMAW stitches look half a year later.

[@hetistijmen]

@@SupremeRuleroftheWorld aren't the panels part of the load bearing exoskeleton? Seems to me like rubbing some Bondo on it after a fender bender would not be the solution it is for a 90's Toyota pickup.

[@kevingarfield2094]

The Cybertruck scratches at Level 100 with deeper grooves at Level 101.

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

🤣😂👍

[@CricketEngland]

Glass is glass and glass brakes

[@Skylancer727]

Actually steel is softer than glass, it just doesn't shatter like glass.

[@americanghostproject]

Appreciate the update and care taken with this video, my friend. Cars are my other passion in this life - and you are making it easier to continue that passion and live vicariously through you :)

[@nexpro6985]

Agent 47 in a cybertruck is a whole new game.

[@badshoes]

Is it really better than a hybrid F-150? As far as doing truck things, I don't care about 0-60 times and screens.

[@coherentpanda7115]

Definitely nothing I would be jealous of on the Cybertruck that I can't get from the F150 for truck things. Sure, no dangerously buggy full self driving, but the Lightning has Bluecruise which is excellent.

[@coherentpanda7115]

@@neganthevegan7138 How is hybrid possibly the worst of both? The battery is charged by braking, which doesn't use gas power. It's extremely efficient to have hybrid.

[@mt2nv1]

Chefs kiss would be a trunk that could fit a spare tire and a range extender that could be placed in the same space. This way it could triple as a trunk, spare tire holder, and range extender. Gives maximum flexibility and options. I know the weight distribution may be an issue, but it would be so much better than putting the range extender in the bed.

[@SeanOzz]

This would rock

[@ryanolson2430]

This is literally what they have. Go look on the website.

[@TroySavary]

​@@ryanolson2430No, that is literally the opposite of what they have. He was asking for a frunk large enough for a battery or tire so it wouldn't fill the bed.

[@mt2nv1]

@@ryanolson2430 no, it’s a toolbox size box that takes up 1/3 of the bed space.

[@AhmadXBoss.]

100k$ for this is crazy

[@kentt6320]

I love how down to earth Zach is as a creator, not feeding into the hype and calling out the missteps while still admitting that the product is somewhat cool. Reminds me of LTT in a lot of ways, more creators should follow in these footsteps

[@_VaporWolf_]

Stainless steel can rust, it's stainless not rust proof, it just depends on the amount of chrome in the alloy

[@markmitzlaff8672]

Yup as an aerospace welder I'm very familiar with the many types of stainless alloys, the lower grades like the 304 he tested will definitely rust after time.

[@arnefines2356]

They address this in the Top Gear video

[@Old_Ladies]

Yup it is why it is called stainless and not stainfree

[@Abebe345]

It's not standard alloy.

[@Marlow925]

And that is the reason, why Tesla (and SpaceX) came up with a special alloy, that is corrosion resistant and even harder than most other stainless steel alloys.

[@luisdelatorre5506]

lol I love how he left that cliffhanger question about a Cybertruck missing a battery 😂

[@natec1]

I see the sloped sides as one of the biggest downsides. I would say 70% of the time I'm taking something out of or putting something into the bed of a truck, its over the sides. I've never understood this design. I've always had this complaint about the Ridgeline, and this is so much worse than that.

[@Ishsa]

It's because Elon Musk doesn't know what a truck is for; he's never used one

[@justsomerandomcanadian9935]

It’s for aero dynamics which greatly effects range and steep edge of the roof dropping off to the bed on a truck creates a low pressure air pocket behind the glass which drags the car back which would reduce range or require more batteries per truck which is a big factor in cost

[@ctuan13]

Its because of its unibody design, without the high sides, the chassis wouldnt be stiff enough.

[@conroyboothe9616]

​@@justsomerandomcanadian9935and yet still the revian is more aerodynamic

[@WANDERER0070]

​@@conroyboothe9616stop lying bro 😂

[@achaerna.6662]

I enjoyed watching this video, and it makes me even more pleased to own a 2011 Ford Ranger 4x4 that's bought and paid for.

[@WestonNey3000]

From everything I’m hearing, the Ford Lightning is actually the best truck out of all of these and people keep ignoring it because it’s the only truck that actually does truck things that real world professionals need.

[@coherentpanda7115]

Lightning hit a homerun, but because it looks like a truck ,and does truck things, it doesn't get noticed by techies. The Lightning is the truck I expect to be bought in fleets for the worksite and actually used by professionals. Tech bros will be the ones driving around Cybertrucks, and Rivian will fall somewhere in the middle.

[@WestonNey3000]

@@coherentpanda7115 exactly

[@tazeat]

The biggest problem with the Lightning is.... The gas F150 already exists at a lower price point and higher convenience. If all gas trucks were banned tomorrow, the Lightning would do much better competitively imo...

[@TroySavary]

Kudos for being the only KZbinr being honest about the potential weaknesses of the Cybertruck.

[@Xelbiuj_1988]

He's still pretty much absolutely simping for it.

[@T4nkcommander]

​​@@Xelbiuj_1988I was astounded when he said it was "definitely infinitely better than gas powered trucks" when the better EV - the lightning - is doing terribly because EV trucks suck for doing truck stuff (and I drive a Raptor, so I know what a toy truck is)

[@griffin8062]

@@T4nkcommander I was also dumbfounded when he said that. It's clear he's never tried to go long distance or tow anything in an electric truck

[@HebrewGamer100]

@@Xelbiuj_1988 Yes, because he's not calling it a doomsday machine on wheels that will destroy the planet.

[@HebrewGamer100]

@@griffin8062 Electric anything will never be able to equal the energy density of gas but since 90% of people who have light trucks and SUVs never haul anything with their truck for the entire time of owning one and if they do it's only a few times and not a significant distance, It's a downside which will be irrelevant for the vast majority of consumers.

[@JasonB72481]

Been a subscriber for a couple years now, really wish I would've found your channel sooner. Awesome video, keep up the great content. Can't wait for you to get your Cybertruck so you can, ummm, examine it up close. I'm very excited by the steer by wire, 48v low volt architecture, and 800v high volt architecture. Can't wait to see your future videos. Take care.

[@JasonB72481]

@@isaackvasager9957 we've had that tech since the 80s and we use it in airplanes.

[@JasonB72481]

@@isaackvasager9957 it has a triple redundancy system. Lexus has developed something similar too.

[@WoodcraftBySuman]

that precision welding table got hammered out of spec real quick 🤣

[@darceew]

Honestly they did something DRASTICALLY different. Whether you love it, hate it or dont care but genuinely we need more companies and people taking new paths. Its built different, looks crazy different and its neat in an odd way. Lets be open to new avenues and major upheavals in major industries.

[@JanWeigangMusic]

Please also consider other cars or pedestrians involved in crashes with this car when reviewing it later. Those "light trucks" may be nice in a crash for the driver, but visibility and crash incompatibility seem to make them a weapon more than a convenience when considered from the outside.

[@Crand0m]

It's almost as if this is designed to kill pedestrians. The bumper is stainless steel sharpened to a ridge right where people's major organs are. Limited sightlines. I can only pray this never makes it's way to Europe. It's bad enough we already have some US "light trucks" in London now. Utterly inappropriate.

[@malcolm2771]

If you get hit by any modern American truck you're probably going to die. At least with this there's a chance of going over rather than under it.

[@jacobdelay802]

I would like to say that while the rivian tries to help departure angle with the curve. Both the cybertrunk and the rivian have adjustable air suspension, if the cybertruck has automatic leveling I don't think that the range extender would hurt the departure angle to bad. If not, it also has almost 2 more inches of ground clearance than rivian stock.

[@TroySavary]

That plastic piece hanging will be smashed on so nany Cybertrucks trying to go off-road.

[@pen1208]

As a person who enjoys this creator, I must add that stainless does, in fact, rust and corrode. Stainless is not rust and corrosion "proof." It is rust and corrosion resistant. Substantially better/more than steel on its own. Just thought I'd clarify that common misconception.

[@shaisimel]

Would love to see if the cybertruck survives the bend test! 😂

[@motofunk1]

At least try the windshield after testing its scratch level.... :)

[@603bricks]

2:40 Steel is steel, and steel breaks

[@Potomacstud]

I love Jerry's assessments on everything , a real straight shooter

[@1DwtEaUn]

This was a lot more balanced than his take shown at the event, but I can understand the being bummed when Tesla was against the concept car vs real world car watering down in the past.

[@airplanenut6242]

That’s fine and all, but his name is still Zach

[@Destide]

This was a really balanced video

[@phil4986]

Jerry is the one guy I will listen too about this truck. Critical but fair. And honest.

[@galacticviper4453]

His name is actually Zach lol

[@oddguyamaar9191]

@@galacticviper4453 jerry from tom n jerry

[@heartofdawn2341]

People have shown off the Cybertruck by doing drag races. That means nothing to me. I want to see the truck being tested doing actual truck things; towing, load carrying and getting off-road. If you can get a proper 3-way challenge going for this, that would be amazing

[@JerryRigEverything]

I’m planning on it!

[@General_Li_Shin]

Tesla has accomplished more than any other auto manufacturer, best joke I've ever heard.

[@NeonVisual]

They are also too big to be driven anywhere in Europe, so it really is just a US exclusive with a limited market. I'm surprised there's any profit in it.

[@bbuny10]

What we really need to see is extended Winter testing

[@mrbillgoode]

It'd do much better than a bald head in winter. You seem to forget this isn't the first production vehicle and they have teams of incredibly smart engineers. Think!

[@HH60gPaveHawk]

Glad to come to comments and see other people calling out the lack of validity of this testing regime. The ductility of specific alloys at extreme temperatures doesn’t tell me anything about the suitability of a material as a body panel on earth.

[@kschleic9053]

I gotta keep reminding myself that this is a consumer tech review/gratuitous teardown channel, not a science communication channel. It makes the errors of omission and inaccuracies easier to ignore😂 That being said, I really hope Sandy Monroe let's Zach test windows with his scratcher (and a gratuitious gravel truck on the highway simulator) before they start their teardown🤞

[@Summersault666]

The "glass" from cybertruck is not glass like others cars probably. It's ALON aluminum oxide.

[@ronsamson537]

That box on the back is the rear crumple zone for protecting the battery pack from a rear impact.

[@pe8640]

Cant wait to see the teardown. What pick level will the body scratch at?

[@MavHunter20XX]

Easy solution for your spare tire, mount it in the front. You don't have intake grills (for whatever reason, bc batteries need cooling too) so you can just out board it there. They (tesla) just needs to make it so you can have a front hitch receiver

[@TheReal_JG]

I think there was a rumor floating around that either Unplugged Performance or another brand is doing a rear mount bracket for the spare tire. A front mounted tire is also doable but might hinder some forward visibility.

[@MavHunter20XX]

Oh nice, but I forgot how much range is reliant on aerodynamics, so it may not be as feasible. Rear mounted tire might be a better idea. @@TheReal_JG

[@travismahoney93]

I just don’t understand I bought a 13 year old truck for 13K that should run for another 10 years will these electric vehicles be able to hold up to this standard? I use my truck to haul to the races which is about 300 round trip done in a day I just think we are a long way off from making these practical for most truck owners.

[@Rylanwjh_]

We all cant wait for a good ol' durability test

[@thegoblinwholaughs1137]

Why wait? Its there already.

[@robertfarris7375]

Ford originally said the base model Lightening would be priced at $49000 but that wasn't the truth either.

[@tiborklein5349]

whataboutism

[@marcezs08]

You know what I am most impressed by, the steel sparked when it shattered, so it went from -300°f to glowing red hot in a millisecond, and that is awesome

[@JonnyFlash80]

Or the spark was from the hammer's steel.

[@Mr.Akagami]

And now we can say, in cold temperatures steel is like glass and steel breaks.

[@SeanQuinn4]

3 years to ramp up production, increase panel gaps, reduce build quality, and lengthen repair turnarounds. I still remember how disappointing it was to step into my mom's "refreshed" blue model S self driving (she had one of the first few hundred original red S's off the line). Her original S was built like a tank, looked and felt like a Merc. Now her interior paneling wont stay affixed regardless of how many times she brings it in. Panel gaps like the bering straight, and overall her panels feel like they're shit. Im sure some of this was done for range, but idk why someone would get an S over a 3 nowaday, the S used to be a luxury car, but no more.

[@SeanQuinn4]

Rode in the new S again this weekend. Rear window seals are failing, and her phone voice commands don't work reliably on the highway unless she smacks her horn.

[@fpsserbia6570]

@@SeanQuinn4 xD ahahah my biggest concern with any electric powered car is what when someone hit you or you hit other vehicle, m i going to be a roasted chicken ?

[@SeanQuinn4]

@@fpsserbia6570 it's a legitimate concern. Although I'm pretty certain the odds of vehicle fire occurring with an accident are similar between electric vs ICE, the difference comes with putting the fire out. Fuel is very combustible whether it's chemical energy or potential.

[@fpsserbia6570]

@@SeanQuinn4 if they are using lithium batteries any damage of the batterie would be fatal if it is raining on top of that, well let hope you have a good reflexes the difference is that fuel tank would leak out of the vehicle and fall to the ground still burns but EW burn like you are at the gates of hell, the speed of burning is insane, i watched a video where half of the bus was in flames under 4 seconds i think they need a blow out panels and extra armor for the battery or system for putting out fire like in tanks

[@SeanQuinn4]

@@fpsserbia6570 oh 100%, battery fires are often catastrophic&ramp out of control quickly. My only point was statistical frequency+trend of vehicle fires in general and the comparison of frequency+trend w/ EV vs ICE. I'm not sure of the exact numbers, but I don't think vehicle fire odds increase by a margin with EV vs ICE, thanks to engineering+ safety regs. Lithium is still a firefighting nightmare and very real risk to consider. Seems like that has been the main focus for EV fire safety, get the hell away from these volatile chemicals. Lots of research in silicon and carbon from what I know.

[@Daniel-dj7fh]

I'm still not sold on the stainless steel panels (which btw. can rust just like glass breaks, steel rusts.) The truck also probably weighs so less because you're not really getting thick steel panels.

[@boostav]

Yeah they're very thin ... that's why they stop handgun rounds /s

[@mnjcosby]

The truck has less weight due to many factors, like the voltage architecture which allows for less conductive material needed, the battery pack tesla builds themself, and the steel skin being so strong they were able to completely leave out structural parts used by every other vehicle ever

[@rogeliocano9536]

It depends on the type of stainless steel. Some are more rust resistant than others.

[@flavioa6351]

Wow dude can’t believe all the Tesla engineers didn’t think of rust. Something a random KZbinr thought of. I’m sure they didn’t think bout that at allllllllll

[@michaelholliday100]

The Cyber truck is so strong that it did not require the steel crash bars in the doors and was still drivable after the Federal Side Impact Test!

[@Zerbey]

Appreciate you doing a factual comparison without any hyperbole. I don't think I'm the target market for the Cybertruck, but I'm curious to see what it's like when they finally start hitting the road.

[@thatwasonce]

I think the stainless steel is cool after seeing so many rusted out trucks, but I think the Rivian and Lightning boast similar rustproof-ness with all their modern aluminum panels, really they are all so similar so the only thing that would hype me up over a Rivian would be if the plaid is actually that much faster, but at that point if you want speed get a model S plaid, and if you need a family hauler that fast get a model X plaid

[@Spacemonkeymojo]

How is smashing a piece of stainless steel that's been cooled using liquid nitrogen not hyperbole?

[@NextGenEvs]

Can’t wait to see your electric snowmobile and hopefully Cybertruck!!

[@CraigConlee]

The box has to do with the aero. The cybertruck mimics the McLaren Speedtail. There is a video about this. IMO, this is the most crazy design. It's highly aero-efficient. The box creates a low pressure underneath like an F1 car. A diffuser effect, thus creating an invisible "tail" like the McLaren Speedtail. Unreal innovation.

[@Australiaisupsidedown]

Unreal, ive never seen anything under the bumper of a car for aerodynamics.

[@valentynd7462]

Your reviewer style is unique and feeling like a "future". Thanks a lot Zack. Good job as always for anything you're doing...

[@alkevier7127]

I wouldn't throw 20 bucks at anything that con artist tries to sell.

[@Cujobob]

Steel and stainless steel are pretty generic terms. Stainless simply refers to chromium content. While steels with chromium typically don’t corrode, they definitely can (see ZDP-189). Chromium content can also make the steel weaker. There’s no free lunch.

[@superfly19751]

Great video! The box underneath in the back won’t hurt off roads bc you can adjust the height of the truck with one push of a button. That box provides hidden space in the flatbed.

[@alg003]

Something worth concern: Modern cars and vehicals are designed with crumple zones on the front, rear, and side, specifically for impacts with objects and other vehicals, so the damage is sent around the vehicals rather than the passengers, if the cyberruck is made from stainless steel, its likely going to be very ridged, something you really dont want to encounter as another vehical.

[@angryrabbitproductions1690]

Something worth concern is that so many people seem to believe the CyberTruck does not have crumple zones. I’ll go out on a limb and guess that the CyberTruck… like every other Tesla vehicle before it, is going to be 5 star crash rated. It might even break the testing system like the model 3 did which scored an impossible 5.2 stars. But go ahead people… keep thinking Tesla doesn’t know how to build safe vehicles.

[@alg003]

@@angryrabbitproductions1690 I mean based on the weight and material that it could be a danger for other vehicals that it impacts

[@Manstrual]

If you remember the Aptera, it's extremely rigid as well. They are getting around the safety issue by allowing the vehicle to deflect the impacts away when the vehicle rolls due to its shape. Cybertruck ain't gonna move when hit, which scares a lot of people, including myself.

[@TroySavary]

​@@angryrabbitproductions1690They have to build them crash resistant to compensate for their affinity for fire trucks.

[@IR-xy3ij]

The exoskeleton is on the sides only, it has extensive crumple zones in the front and rear and the stainless steel panels on the front are much thinner than on the side. I don't know why there is this "cybertruck has no crumple zone" rumor going around, since it's very obvious in any of the factory tour videos that the basic structure of this truck is two crumple zones attached to a battery pack in the middle.

[@williameddy7217]

These Electric trucks are just so limited on range that they are basically useless for backcountry access

[@danielhenry177]

Plus any towing cuts it even worse (unless you pay BIG bucks for upgrades)

[@nathanameru7654]

This is very true. They are improving quickly though. They have 18min charge from 20% to 80% maybe in 15 years, this wouldn't even be an issue. In which case, I'd prefer it cuz I don't necessarily need pumps if I'm remote. I could just use custom solar solutions then never need civilization

[@nathanameru7654]

@MaybeShimo it's impossible with the common battery chemistry. Only about 1000 charge cycles. Solid state is the next promising (seeing as there's actually functioning cells already) that takes it up to something stupid like 50k cycles don't quote me. Idk what's taking so long though. This would be a game changer, charge at a rate of 10c or more like high grade lipos

[@RedRyz3n]

The point of recreating a truck from the ground up is so that it's better than everything else. The glaring issues with the Cyber truck shows that its not an improvement in a truck but rather in technology. As a truck, it fails at doing basic truck things.

[@JRP3]

FYI Rivian now has patch panels for the bed so you can fix most bed side dents without getting into the cab panels and removing everything.

[@gerrylum]

Plus paintless dent repair can take care of a lot of the dents that happen on that panel.