The Damned United - Brian Clough burns Don Revie's desk

clip from the deleted scenes (thank God)

[@classlessbozo317]

Instead of sacking the secretary he should have told her to throw all her tea making medals in the bin.

[@Thepalpatineboys77]

😂😂😂 great comment ❤

[@deletebilderberg]

Side note. Nigel is absolutely ripping it up at Mansfield Town! If they don’t get promoted this season I’ll be amazed.

[@ejkalegal3145]

To sack the old dear for no reason was petty and cruel, and a breach of employment law. Clough wouldn't have done that in real life, hence why they deleted it..

[@echolot]

who else loves watching and listening to clough stories from his former players?

[@Hesitatedeye]

favourite ever clough moment was when they were losing to Dynamo Berlin in the Quarter Finals in 1980 and he gets interviewed after the first leg and says "no one should even think to write us off" and just looks at the camera with that amused smile of his as if to say "go on write us off, please write us off" course we all know how that one ended.

[@deletebilderberg]

He’ll yeah!! SHIT ‘OUSE 😂😂

[@jackkenefick2696]

Crossley's stories are great

[@ronnie1202]

He was an egotistical man but get past the nonsense and he really was a genius . As so many are

[@mezykin]

2 European Cups in a row, says it all

[@leonhardeuler675]

If many are genius, then no-one is.

[@flammenjc]

He was a wanker. Good when circumstances favoured him though

[@matthewhendy5785]

He should have been England manager.

[@ronb5714]

Nah. Clough’s successes rested upon having people who were all-subservient to him. He could accommodate the odd big character to act as a lieutenant, but he persistently belittled even his main players. When players had little power that was sustainable at club level, but international players wouldn’t stand for it; they would simply make themselves unavailable and wouldn’t have the same loyalty to him. England’s true lost genius was Bob Paisley.

[@andrewburton9643]

Best manager England never had 👍

[@sparx550]

Great portrayal of a Great Man. He had his flaws but don’t we all.

[@ronnie1202]

Well said mate , everyone is a perfectionist now 😂

[@Jack_The_Ladd]

Can see why they cut this scene, first of all it never happened in real life and second it makes Clough look like an insecure knobhead.

[@giovanni6636]

He was

[@ThisIsMyRodrick]

​@@giovanni6636I highly doubt, this happened but it makes the point that Clough did not like Revie. And didn't want any association with him. This represents the resentment and hatred for Leeds

[@flammenjc]

He was though. It might not have happened but it's entirely believeable that it did. Revie lived in his head rent free.

[@andrewwright4195]

​@flammenjc noone remember Don now he was remembered for failed England manger and went to unplace to get paid lot to mange unknown club

[@IndieVolken]

ive been searching for this ; as am sure i saw it on film when it first came out - but its not on my DVD = ditto the scene where he meets Duncan McKenize at the hotel he's staying at (Midland hotel ?)

[@MUFCWH7]

At 1:17 "I wouldnt want to get off on the wrong foot" He was hinting to her and she carried on with the snotty attitude. She failed. Only thing she got right was refering to him as Mr Clough.

[@ronb5714]

He would have respected her more if she’d immediately shown her willingness to abandon all old ties and loyalty, and get rid of every hint of a man who had been her friend for 13 years? A power flex, no more no less.

[@MUFCWH7]

@@ronb5714 Never the less she got off on the wrong foot from the moment she stood at the door watching him. She was an employee of Leeds United AFC and her job was to serve Cloughy. She should have knocked on. Introduced her self and tell him abit about what she does and she would probably have not been booted out.

[@Andrew-eo2cw]

For anyone interested in an insight into clough I highly recommend a book called 'Be good, love Brian'

[@joshleach3349]

I’m glad this wasn’t in the Final Cut it dehumanises clough quite a bit

[@cliffheywood]

no he did his thing

[@mark4lev]

I think that’s how you have to be to get on in business. They do say all successful people have an unpleasant side. Zero compassion.

[@sjewitt22]

Wouldn't a fuller picture of his character of been better?

[@RenegadeShepTheSpacer]

​@@sjewitt22Clough was a prick, but he never actually did this in real life. Johnny Giles even threatened to sue because of this scene in the book.

[@sjewitt22]

@@RenegadeShepTheSpacer I personally like Clough, though i'm pretty left wing, which he also was, so that influences my opinion.

[@arrivalofdoom7449]

"You can chuck all those medals in the bin , coz you won em all by Bloody Cheatin" Legend line number 1

[@aidanlynn]

Didn’t know Brian Clough was Welsh.

[@markherzog9484]

Exceptional acting……..Sheen can morph into almost anyone….uncanny……

[@jackkenefick2696]

Tony Blair OR Brian Clough. Amazing

[@weekendwarriorprospecting817]

Nigel said this never happened, but I'd like to think that it did 😂😂

[@stewartellinson8846]

it's a dramatisation - i doubt he'd be able to get rid of a member of admin staff either; it's all showing the loathing. To be fair, Clough had a point....

[@shamizil]

I don't remember this scene in the film The Damned United Was it deleted from the final sequence?

[@mrlindsays]

Legend!!

[@andypalin3287]

Great scene! Just wish they'd left it in! 😜

[@cockoffgewgle4993]

It's a bit OTT

[@Edward1312]

He was known for holding a grudge.

[@georgeknox1822]

Must have him burn Mike Ashley’s desk here in Newcastle too …

[@bargepoled]

Stuart Pierce was playing for Nottingham Forest and one game suffered a head injury. The physio told Brian Clough that he would have to be subbed because he was so concussed he didn't know who he was. Clough told the physio. "Tell him he's Pele and send him back on". 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@dcpwll]

That was John Lambie, the manager of Partick Thistle, talking about his striker Colin McGlashan. Why would any manager tell a concussed full back that he was a striker?

[@bargepoled]

@@dcpwll I'm sure it's been said many times 😂👍

[@talkinghead3169]

Was actually the manager of Patrick thistle who said that! John Lambie.

[@BenRobinson1974]

Can't think why it didn't work out

[@alanfox691]

Because it's Leeds United & it was full of dirty little b's just like Don Revie liked it. My understanding is Don liked to lap up the players before training & after training it lead to some very sticky situations but Don was the man with the mouth for the job I understand he was extremely hands on aswell he liked to get a grip of his players. But Cloughy that was not his style he would rather have a cup of tea them but you in the balls.

[@JD-wn3cc]

Same as when Moyes took over man utd after fergie. Players, led by Rooney, just refused to play to any standard, to make him look shit.

[@adammac4960]

Was a tad bit over the top lol

[@jimmima121]

John McGovern said in a documentary once that Clough "wasn't his type of man, the type he'd go for a pint with, but he'd walk across the Sahara to work for him." That's a believable take on a guy who had a lot of character flaws for all his genius. This, however, is a load of absolute bollocks.

[@MrJokerlad19]

Took a bung.

[@seanmarshall7403]

You either love Clough and the cult of personality fostered by him and his supporters or you hated him. I have aupported Leeds since i was a kid im 54 now. I hear he vocie , i hear or read thsie who love or loved him but i aint one. This night be the Damned United but its ours and i say Damn Clough.

[@andymeighan8160]

That didn't happen, but don't let the truth get In the way of a good story.

[@HandleGF]

An old Hollywood lawyer called Fred Leopold put it best. "If you have real people as characters, they can have lattes and muffins but they can't say, 'Let's go for a f*ck in the bushes.'"

[@wroot1]

Huh??

[@anonUK]

​​@@wroot1 Well, f'ing a work colleague within working hours and on the premises, even consensually, is disreputable behaviour. So unless it happened beyond doubt, you open yourself to legal action if you invent such a scenario, or even if you exaggerate a real-life situation to make it seem as if they did. However, having lattes and muffins at work, whether or not they had any taste for them, or whether or not they could or should have consumed them, is not classed as disreputable behaviour and any legal action over this would backfire. In this situation, sacking a secretary still loyal to the old boss may not be disreputable but taking it out on the furniture is a little strange. So, if it didn't happen or is an exaggeration of what did happen, they should leave it out- at least, if Clough were still alive, which he isn't.

[@phililpb]

they should have made a Clough movie about his time at Forest not leeds

[@judyhopps9380]

the book covers the Derby side of things and alternates between chapters. Got to say though this movie/book doesn't serve Clough, Leeds, Forest, Revie, or Derby the way it deserves.

[@laithal-janabi9345]

For his time at Forest, check out the brilliant film " I Believe in Miracles"

[@judyhopps9380]

@@laithal-janabi9345 I will thank you Laithal

[@cockoffgewgle4993]

The film is barely about his time at Leeds.

[@GoldenOctopus-kd4zl]

Is this a deleted scene?

[@colinharris615]

I was in this. Sheens a Genius

[@kdlofty]

This wasn't in the original film. Must be an outtake.

[@adrianlloyd6403]

I'm glad it wasn't just me then.I was watching it before reading the comments and i couldn't for the life of me remember this scene in the film.I really had a shiver down my spine thinking my long term memory was going!!! It's a pity they edited out this scene in the final production as it helps in the understanding of the character of the man.

[@laithal-janabi9345]

It was in the book. Apparently, it never happened, according to his son Nigel... but it was a terrific scene that never made it to the final cut.

[@stevenwilcox8631]

One of those that didn't happen in real life.

[@TheStockportHatter1986]

That was?

[@stevenwilcox8631]

@@TheStockportHatter1986 the burning of Don Revies desk. Nor the snub where revie refused to shake Clough hand at beginning of the amongst the other historical inaccuracies in the film. The one positive was Michael Sheen portrayal of cloughie in the movie.

[@tombo1984]

No evidence this ever happened.

[@markhayes4149]

Nigel Clough said it never happened though he used to like bonfires as kid.

[@MohamedAli-xu3uw]

Ok

[@PauloTheGeek]

This scene is pathetic, Clough absolutely did not act like this. That book is so full of outrageous lies and Johnny Giles (no friend of Clough's) rightly sued the author and won damages.

[@robp1041]

Deleted scene ??

[@garylucas7050]

Don’t remember this scene

[@brotherfecil4092]

Think it must of been a deleted scene because this wasn’t in the movie

[@MUFCWH7]

Anymore deleted scenes??

[@owens164]

I don't know why but I can't find the original video

[@MUFCWH7]

​@@owens164I watched a video not long ago of Clough refusing to let the Leeds players have their complimentary cars. Be nice see a few more if there is any

[@elliotchinneryhinks8554]

This scene is ridiculous, he wouldn't do this sometimes stories are taken too far out of context to the point where they insult people's legacy's

[@68blues]

I remember his first European final, he took ten players off and only left me on. Went on to win it!…….that didn't happen did it? I get this type of thing going on in my head all the time. Anyhoo must dash, i have a gunfight at noon in the town centre.

[@michaellynch3667]

Isn’t this the Welsh actor who claims only Welshman should play welsh parts. Does this not apply to English actors

[@sandersson2813]

Suppose he thinks only a murderer should play murderer's, only Royalty can play Royalty etc

[@user-kz9qn2kb1p]

Still a damm good actor

[@TheAlmightyAss]

Think there's clearly a power dynamic between the Welsh and the English here.

[@FACELOWNER]

@@TheAlmightyAss Not really, only when the Welshman is a hypocritical knob, still a great actor though..

[@flankspeed]

Even the Welsh think being Welsh is a disability 😏

[@mitchtheowl5415]

If anyone knows the facts this never happend and was in the book and everyone at the time even nigel said that didnt happen and is fiction even a the leeds player said what was put in that book was wrong

[@wroot1]

BASED

[@khalidbinwaleed5072]

Well she was rude and terrible at her job refusing him his cup of tea

[@christophergodfrey8756]

Eh Don't remember this in the film lol

[@udallfalcone3703]

😴 ᑭᖇOᗰOᔕᗰ

[@MichaelChurchill1982]

I enjoyed this film but its a pity that, just like the book, it is 90% bullshit... even jonny Giles defends clough from this movie/book and clough stole his job 😂😂😂

[@jasondyer811]

Did that really happen ?

[@owens164]

I don't think so mate. The film is based off a book by the same title and there's a lot of fiction in there.

[@gavinreid8937]

The book says he burned the desk first day, his kids were there and they have no recollection of a bonfire..

[@Sidneyyoungblood75]

Nope

[@stephenduckham9736]

Why is a Welsh man who despises anyone not Welsh acting as a Welsh man playing a northern English man?

[@emperorreign6154]

I would say it’s good that they cut this out but it’s quite shocking that they even filmed it in the first place. Not only did it simply not happen, but it paints Clough as a deranged man. He was many things and he was extremely tough on his players but not towards regular staff at the club or any other walk of life and as incredibly ambitious as he was, he wasn’t a lunatic.

[@Philly_Jump_Over_The_Fence]

"fiction based on fact" is the most egregiously dishonest art form. By mixing truth in with lies the audience or some of it will accept the full package.

[@robertstitches9517]

This scene is dumb

[@kevinbrookes4870]

Why don't film producers do their research properly. The desk burning never happened. It portrays nothing but disrespect to a great man. This film was awful in rotten tomatoes I would give it 10/10. The book was even worse, full of lies.

[@matthewbaum4335]

One of the Brian Clough documentary go into detail about the Dammed United especially the book. The book was originally written and was sued by I think pretty much everyone even the former Leeds players backed Brian, the books portrayl was horrific so when they made the film yeah they kept some bits in for the drama but apparently they had to reassure the Clough family it was going to distance itself from the book as much as they could. Either way I wish it made it alot clearer how fiction this is and it no way portrays the story accurately

[@garycoates4603]

I would give it 10/10 as well😂

[@Spectrescup]

​@matthewbaum4335 precisely one (1) player sued the publishers, and Dave Mackay sued the film producers.

[@jeffreyharris3887]

It was a marriage made in hell .As much as I like Clough the burning of the desk in the car park was not rational nor smart .Clough wad insecure without Taylor and that contributed greatly to his downfall

[@owens164]

And Taylor needed Clough as much as Clough needed him. A perfect duo.

[@RebelRebelious]

Clough never burnt the desk. Complete fiction in the warped head of David Peace. Both Johnny Giles and Dave Mackay successfully sued Peace. Had Clough, Revie and Billy Bremner been alive at the time of the books release, they could have done the same and won easily.That scene was cut from the film. There's a reason for that......

[@fargodavilleitnotd6729]

he never burnt the desk! in any car park? Im surprised if you are a fan of Clough you would surely make it your business to know this movie is shite based fiction? and Talyor joined him afterwards at Forest for their most spectacular era.

[@Spectrescup]

​@@RebelRebeliousMackay sued the producers of the film, Giles sued Faber.

[@Muirton66]

All the comments 'it never happened in real life, people need to understand this isnt real life, it is a made for TV drama with actors and cameras.

[@JohnKobaRuddy]

And people need to realise that putting fake things on screen often bleeds into people believing a load of old bollocks.

[@Spectrescup]

It's not a made for TV drama, although on a related note people do have trouble understanding what literary fiction is.

[@InYourHeadChangedMan]

Might be in the minority but i don't like Sheens portrayal of Clough which is total arrogance without the charm and charisma that Clough had and i can't believe he would have behaved this way to this woman

[@harukrentz435]

You jest but in the interview with revie, clough admitted that hed never greeted even the office lady.