THE DANGEROUS FAULTS VW CAN'T FIX - MK8 GTI Clubsport Update

[@allosaurusfragilis7782]

Is it just me that prefers less, rather than more tech , on cars? I can see endless problems ahead, once they are a few years old, as well.

[@BillLaBrie]

Yay, it means people like you and me get to drive cheap old cars and save a fortune.

[@PeteCourtier]

My 205Gti agrees👍. The stereo is the most hi tech part of the car😂

[@Briggsian]

You're not alone.

[@Vermonstered]

Isn't that just a more VAG and BMW issue? Post warranty you end up with $10k repair bills regularly. The current stuff is designed for lease and then money for parts for the people who buy pre-owned.

[@junhaoliang4228]

the problem is gti doesn't have more tech lol, just a different input method.

[@MercyShot83]

Im an absolute GTI-Nut (had 6) but the Mk 8 leaves me completely cold. Keeping my Mk 7.5 ❤️

[@limitededition3278]

Agreed 👍

[@limitededition3278]

It might grow on you eventually. But I have to agree with you keeping my 7.5

[@jayhealth5264]

I'm GTI nut also. Keeping my mk7 as of now but the new Golf R is definitely growing on me.

[@ghostinthemachine76]

Couldn’t agree more. I don’t know what VW are playing at. MK8 is horrendous, in and out. And as for the standard GTI wheels, I’m speechless.

[@chrisward925]

Have to agree the Mk 7.5 (currently have a GTD) seems to be the sweet spot with the Mk 8 seeming to be changes for changes sake, particularly on the internals with the loss of the gear selector on DSG's and physical climate controls rather touch screen.

[@BM_PAZ]

Top tip for those with screen delay issues (my record is 9 seconds between touch & response), click the clima button on and then off and the delay should be resolved. Only took me months to find that one out.

[@ekimandersom4478]

Or just don't buy a crap Volkswagen

[@BM_PAZ]

@@ekimandersom4478 🙄

[@pastorofmuppets8834]

I wonder why that makes any difference! Do you have to do it every time?

[@BM_PAZ]

@@pastorofmuppets8834 no not that often. I have no idea why that works but it does, strange.

[@ron999]

@@BM_PAZ Golf 8 is crap , exspensive piece of crap.

[@TheRedKobra]

They're slowly taking the human out of the driving experience.

[@michaelb9664]

Pretty sad isn’t it that this supposed to be a ‘drivers car’ and it’s riddled with all of this crap tech.

[@asdaasdasd2283]

good, I hate driving

[@eileendonnelly1195]

Infotainment. I want to feel info from my ass and hands and entertainment from driving the car.

[@TheScudabear1]

Absolutely...ditch all the electronic shite

[@Briggsian]

@@eileendonnelly1195 You're absolutely right

[@seanlyons161]

This is absolutely ridiculous... What the hell is the benefit of these modern day computerised cars? I just want to get in the car and drive.

[@danestewart2539]

The benefits are that of the more and more familiar status wars, “if you have a high end, tech rich, German car… then you have made it in life and everyone should adore, respect, praise and look at you as an icon and an objective to aim for”. German cars are not well built, well performing, or reliable but are highly fashionable.

[@seanlyons161]

@@danestewart2539 glad I’m not in a status war!

[@panzerveps]

The travel assist malfunction is caused by a bug in the map software lisenced by another company. If the road you're on is close to another road with a different speed limit, the car will always choose the lowest speed limit. I've experienced it several times in Id3 and 4, and an Enyaq, and it's always at the exact same locations. The bug has been there since the road sign detector was introduced way back, but it wasn't a problem because travel assist wasn't a thing yet.

[@DanLMH]

These are basic things imo that should've been spotted in testing... :/

[@volkswizard]

They have to do test miles in UK cars on UK roads & with dieselgate budget cuts you can guess how likely that is.

[@isaacshively6705]

That's why you guys get them before us in the US so we get a car with all the bugs worked out

[@Corsa15DT]

@@isaacshively6705 us shouldn't really get any vws, that market is nothing but a pain in the arse :)

[@matthewsmith2787]

The owners do the testing for VW

[@Corsa15DT]

@@matthewsmith2787 exactly haha, I'v been saying that for 10 years.

[@tomwilliams242]

My 19 reg Honda Civic Type R GT FK8 has had no problems other than occasional false warnings from the front central parking sensor after the car had been parked in the rain but this has been fixed. Also, space in boot for a space saver spare wheel & 37mpg using Esso Synergy Supreme 99 octane petrol. By swapping wheels back to front just once I expect to get 15k miles out of a set of oem Continental Contact 6 tyres.

[@ryckymanc6905]

And it lacking AWD they are 💩

[@tuffers37]

I have a mk5 GTI, it obviously works fine eg, the harder I press the accelerator pedal the faster it goes, amazing technology. I wonder if “driver aids” really are a benefit or a hindrance. The whole point of having a GTI is the wonderful way the car responds to driver input, isn’t some of that lost with electronic assistance and overrides? Only my opinion and I’m sure the mk8 is fabulous to drive, probably would have one if mine packed up, looks great.

[@drwisdom1]

I had a 2006 GTI until last year when I sold it because I have too many cars. Over 14 years is was relatively trouble free. One subtlety good thing about the mk5 is it is taller than the models that followed. You sit higher and more erect so it is a more comfortable seating posture for long trips.

[@Puddingtops]

Do we really need all this complicated high tech in today’s cars ?

[@dan_6915]

This tech is pushed by someone onto us, just like the useless vaxin

[@toninocars]

Absolutely not.

[@weierschatten3433]

@@dan_6915 Not as useless as you

[@BillLaBrie]

Buyers under the age of 30 or so don’t consider it a car unless it’s basically a phone on wheels. They refuse to drive anything lacking a screen and a shitload of sensors.

[@danestewart2539]

It is not a need, the technology in modern cars is a want, for fashion, and status wars. People want and will pay, therefore car manufacturers are more than happy to take your money.

[@jamessanders3392]

Hi have a 2021 Golf GTI and having exact same issues with ACC and parking sensor errors, I have also had a time the whole infotainment screen when off for 3 days then come back on itself, during this time I had no air con or music etc. Such a shame for a car that drives so good having these electrical issues letting it down!

[@panzerveps]

Did you try to force a restart of the infotainment system? Hold the power button for (usually) 5 seconds, until the screen flickers, and maybe some noise from the speakers.

[@mindst50mm54]

VW quality 👍

[@domefford864]

I’ve got the same, golf r, pain in the ass!

[@martyn_g]

I've got a 2021 AZII Suzuki Swift Sport. With all the updated electronics, and like all my Japanese car purchases, has operated faultlessly. There's a reason why Asian brands dominate reliability surveys....

[@Pkari]

The random ACC slowing down and other software bugs were more on the GTI than Cupra in my experience, but the GTI also felt like it had a more modern version of infotainment- just more buggy too. Eg the view selected in the driver’s panel - the GTI kept resetting to default, the cupra holds whatever I select no matter how many times I restart the car. CarPlay in the cupra has poorer resolution but much fewer glitches connecting to my phones - just two of the many things I noticed working smoother.

[@samgab]

That problem with the car not "undertaking" vehicles in the lane to your left can be easily fixed/adjusted in the software using an OBDELEVEN or similar. I found the setting on my S3 because I was annoyed that it wouldn't "undertake" vehicles in the lane to my right, which is allowed on a motorway in my country, even though we also drive on the left.

[@SassyOnline]

This stuff is why I can't trust these new 2020/21 cars honestly. As cars get newer, they get made cheaper. In an ideal world they should get better and better but sadly not. Sounds like a bunch of untested stuff.

[@DavidRamseyIII]

What are you talking about. Cars have gotten continuously better. These are just bugs

[@SassyOnline]

@@DavidRamseyIII New technological advancements are the only thing that cars have improved in and that's barely even recent as most this tech has been around for many many years even before being used in cars. They make them cheaper, that's just a fact. Plastic oil sumps are a prime example of this, if they lasted 50k miles made entirely of plastic engine internals they'd still do it.

[@toninocars]

Agreed, at least the golf has a steering wheel, where Tesla doesn’t 🤭👌🚗

[@matthewsmith2787]

I think cars made around 2010 are the best, they are modern enough for safety features but not too overly complicated

[@TheAllEngineering]

@@DavidRamseyIIIReally not acceptable to have buyers pay for the "privilege" of doing the beta testing. ......... and this is a Golf not a Bug lol.

[@0Freguenedy0]

And to think that some politicians think about limiting cars speeds via ECU and the reading the car does of the road signs

[@volkswizard]

There needs to be a lot regulation of signs and lane markings so these systems have a hope in hell of working properly even without bugs

[@petrsla]

Unfortunatelly you are right. As I know from friend who work in automotive, this is the goal for 2030. Cars will adjust speed according singns and will not let you go faster... Sad ages are coming... Totalism everywhere...

[@philcarroll9896]

@@volkswizard how often do you actually rely on speed sign recognition to drive and determine your actual speed? I've had it on the last 5 cars and never ever used it. I like to drive the car myself rather than trust a camera to do it. I'm shocked at you based on your track experience.

[@wolfypics7339]

Very informative as always. I've now got rid of my Mk8, worst car I've ever had. So, so many problems I won't list them all but one that nearly caused a major accident was with ACC activated on my local dual carriageway 70mph busy with both lanes full of traffic then I was going through a road works area that had finished the day before and they had left some equipment and a 40mph sign on the side of the road in a layby. My car picked the 40mph sign up while doing 70mph in the outside lane and litterally slammed on nearly causing a major accident. Fortunately I released what was happening quickly tried to speed back up through it but was a proper shock to the system I can tell you!

[@volkswizard]

That's not good Rog! VW could have just as easily not given TSR but we are guinea pigs for self-driving cars and this stuff is essential if they are going to ever work properly. There is still clearly a lot of work to be done, not least in standardising road signs so there is less confusion when the system reads them. I was also sent a technical document which listed all the areas where TSR can get confused and there are quite a lot of situations, none of which the system can ever overcome, however well developed it is. On top of all this we could do without the kph/mph confusion which most definitely can be sorted by some proper software.

[@wolfypics7339]

@@volkswizard Yes it's all going crazy now with tech, electric and self driving cars plus the new speed limiter laws coming in to force from next July Also new cyclists laws which I saw as something like they have priorty at juctions or something coming in soon. Everything is taking away driver fun and enjoyment these days and all we will be doing is sitting in the back of our cars playing on our phones while be taken to our destinations at ultra low speeds :(

[@notmenotme614]

I haven’t had this issue with a mk7.5 but I have had the lane assist kick in when it shouldn’t. For example, I left a roundabout to find a van parked on the side of the road. I went to swerve around the van but the lane assist tried to prevent me, which would have resulted in me driving into the back of the van! On the 7.5 you can turn these off.

[@notmenotme614]

@@wolfypics7339 Talking about going crazy with tech and electric. I had a tracker and immobiliser installed (as I live in a sketchy area where GTIs, Rs and Audi S3 are the most stolen cars). And you should see the size of the wiring loom in the car! There’s so many wires that it must be 2 or 3 inches thick with about 3 big multi-pin connectors branching off it. Thankfully the loom is so big it’ll be hard to spot the tracker install.

[@wolfypics7339]

@@notmenotme614 Not good. I've had similar with a cyclist. I was on my local country road no other traffic other than me and a cyclist. so I just pulled out slightly to over take him and the bloody car dragged me back across and nearly into him because I had crossed the centre line. Its done the same with hedges, potholes and kerbs, with the car trying its best to get me to damage the wheels. My tiny brain cannot understand how on earth in a million years this car has been tested properly before production!

[@alexdalgleish1061]

What's your daily commute, get a '20 spec 36.8 kWh e Up, an early '14 Golf R or early Up GTI with cruise and heated seats. My Picanto had too many annoying things, so now got a '13 Yaris. Back to checking own tyre pressures. Suits me.

[@jixuscrixus1967]

Volkswagen and software issues....who’d a thunk it eh?

[@volkswizard]

"It's not a bug, it's a feature"😁

[@jryalls]

I think the people making decisions around “self driving” are doing things the wrong way round. The systems should be there for when the driver mess’s up, not the other way around.

[@donaljamescaddye3805]

Why make them so complicated ? If it's a clubsport it should be stripped out with proper seats, proper windey windows, no intrusion by the computer and lightweight ! Proper clubsports are drivers cars not some overweight overcomputerised disappointment which thinks it's driver is a fool - That would be a fantastic car if it wasn't for the bs - A fine weapon blunted - Give me a Mk1 or Mk2 any day - proper GTi

[@baronvonjo1929]

Why so complicated? Because that what sales. It's a business.

[@mihaiserbanescu8676]

you should see if there are any settings in the software that relates to km/h or mph. There might be more modules that may work together. for example, the speedometer and GPS might be set on different values and somehow it confuses the system. The system that reads the signs might work with a GPS module or within the infotainment. Software ties everything together and sometimes bugs like these can happen. I have a laptop that sometimes loses the calibration for the touchpad. It also has a sensor that reads where my eyes are looking on the screen, by enabling that sensor, it regains the touchpad calibration then it can be turned off again and everything is fine. That took a long time to figure out, so check everything, sometimes there are modules that are unrelated but affect other systems of the car.

[@Gazmondo100]

The only problem I have with my golf 8R is Wireless phone charger, I have an iPhone 12 promax & any time I leave it on there for more than 10 to 15 minutes it will pretty much cooks The phone And then disconnects from the car,I have now stopped using it because I am worried my phone will explode at some point ,that’s how hot it gets.

[@Evansrich]

Totally different car but I’ve got the same phone as you but drive a 2018 rs4 and my phone gets ridiculously hot while charging

[@peterhope74]

@Gazmondo M Ask your dealer about a potential fix/replacement for Golf 8 wireless phone charging issues - quote them "TPI reference 2058294/4 of July 2021"

[@stephenpeacock2627]

Cab5 believe the amount of faults you’ve had. You’ve had more faults than my 4 cars together.

[@jinglebells323]

Interesting video but I must comment on some things: (1) Please don't use the word "undertake". It really doesn't mean what you think it means. You are meaning "overtake on the left" as used in Highway Code rule 268 (and other overtaking rules). (The Highway Code doesn't say "undertake".) The "over" bit of overtake refers to moving from behind someone to in front of them, usually by speeding up whilst they stay at the same speed. It's still "over"take which ever side you do it. Undertake, if it existed, would be to go from "in front" of someone to "behind" them, by slowing yourself down whilst they stayed at the same speed. This does happen for example in moving photo shoots on TV programs like Top Gear, where the camera car and the subject car are frequently speeding up and slowing down to capture all angles. (2) With used car prices high (due to the chip supply problem on new cars) it is indeed a good time to sell, but it's not a good time to buy; the depreciation will catch up with you sooner or later; so to sell your nearly-new Golf just because it's worth more now than when you bought it is financially crazy if you immediately buy another (more expensive) one. (3) Software problems such as you describe are pretty worrying as we move into increasing control of cars by software. One day we will realise that software isn't reliable enough yet! Why would anyone want a car with so much electronics, and those awful tiny pictures on the dashboard. Whilst I love to read about such things, actually buying and owning in the way you are doing .. well, you are on a different planet; a 10 year old Golf can give you just as much pleasure and driving enjoyment, for a lot less.

[@TheJamesvgnr]

I've still got my old Golf mk2 GTi-should I keep it?

[@danielrussell446]

Definitely yes

[@sameemia8229]

It's a yesss

[@volkswizard]

Mk2 is great, never went wrong as not much to fail but it's an old slow inefficient car that crumples in a crash. As a toy it's good but for daily driving I'd buy a newer car.

[@gbc7344]

@@volkswizard can’t say I agree with the crumple comment purely because I had one in 97 and spun off the m40 at speed after a flash flood..the shell of the car remained solid and intact despite taking a battering and ended up in a ditch down the side of the motorway and it probably saved my life.That said of course it won’t be as safe as today’s cars but I was impressed at the time at just how solid the mk2 was.

[@andrewmcivor42]

It's probably worth more now! Mk2 Golfs are worth huge money now

[@daveoneill8235]

Don't know if anyone else got this problem got a mk 8 gti 9 months old got drive shaft gator issues. Makes horrible noises. Vw say it the carictoristics of the car. It's been in to my vw several times They say its the drive shaft gators and vw won't do the work under warranty. How ever???? I got trading standard involved. And my local vw changed the drive shaft gators.. Not payed for by vw UK but by the dealership. Car was perfect. However 1 week later its worse than ever. And vw say its a problem with my car not all gti s . Please can anybody help its driving me round the twist???? By the way vw customer care is shocking. As a family we have had 8 vws sinse 2014. 2x golf r 1x gtd 2x gti 1 up 1vw polo r line 1x polo beats. Do they care about there customers Do they. F..ck.

[@ma98ard]

Great video, as a fellow Mk8 R driver, i am deeply disappointed with my car, i have multiple software faults ranging from speaker pops (randomly), climate control unresponsive, ACC going crazy, system forgets driver settings) the list goes on... such a shame.... VW UK is hopeless and really letting their customers down.

[@shiugen676]

Darn sorry to hear about those issues, what did dealer say and what software version are you on and when did you collect the car?

[@volkswizard]

Have you had a software update yet? The situation isn't helped as VW dealer workshops are inundated with this sort of work which isn't profitable and the technicians are all in a grump as their bonuses are reduced. None of them want to do this work.

[@jammy_rex3038]

Sorry to hear about all the issues you're having. All this technology sounds a bit of a nightmare, there are so many potential points of failure and it doesn't sound like it is being tested enough before being released to the public. In my opinion having no physical buttons for HVAC and other critical functions is dangerous and should not be allowed. VW see this as cost cutting of course; far cheaper to make everything "work" off a screen rather than develop and produce physical buttons at extra cost (even though it is much safer!). Also, look how many problems your cars are having and they are brand new - imagine 5 or 10 years down the line when this car is out of warranty and they no longer provide software updates - trying to debug and resolve software problems is going to be a nightmare! Main dealers won't want to be interested in the older cars, but traditional specialists might not be able to diagnose and fix due to the complexity of the software.

[@domefford864]

I’ve got the same, so annoying!

[@sophiawoods6748]

I bought a 2nd hand 9000 mile golf r 7.5 2019 vw and it had rattles from the front mounts and creaked and rattles like I was driving a 90,000 mile Ford mondeo. I just toke it back

[@STRampo500]

The suspension noise you are talking about sounds very similar to the issue i had on my mk7 gti PP with ACC. I had to spare the lower arm bushes with silicon grease every 3-4 months. Apparently it was a well known issue.

[@sophiawoods6748]

Oh shit, I just gave back a golf r 7.5 due to it being creaky and rattling underneath. I what that be the same for a mk8 gti 245bhp

[@glynrozier]

My Golf 8 GTE has the same ACC fault and I also experienced the clicks via the speakers, followed by an SOS call and loss of all infotainment for a day. The ACC issue is delicately a kmph/mph calibration issue. I do enjoy the car but for all the automation it has, I have to stay more alert when passing through speed limit changes on ACC or overtaking with ACC.

[@panzerveps]

The ACC issue is not UK exclusive, and is caused by a bug in the map software VW has lisenced from a 3rd party. The system is based on both camera and GPS, and will always choose the lowest limit. If the camera reads 70, but the GPS reads 50 on a nearby road, it will choose 50. I'd just turn that function off until it's been sorted.

[@dainesefreak]

@@panzerveps How do you explain the 110 mph in a 70 mph limit then? There are no 110 mph roads in the UK, only wish there were.

[@panzerveps]

​@@dainesefreak​I have no clue, but it could be because of conversion error. l2metric, and this will sort itself out.

[@UKRR]

There is a setting for driving on the left or right. You may be set to driving on the right after your software update

[@stonepope]

Not sure your theory is correct - still picks up cars on the right (UK) as usual to prevent undertaking and slows you down as normal as well as those on the left, so isn't related to LH RH set up.

[@nickaf5262]

Just been to order a club sport only to be told they have stopped making them So have ordered a club sport 45 which is coming out at £41.100 otr with £385 for the moonstone grey everything is standard May /June 2022 delivery date 👍

[@Maurice_Moss]

I don't think I've ever heard a good word about the cruise control systems that change your speed when they see the signs 🤔

[@johnnelson9742]

I have the 3 turbo and drove the cx5, adaptive cruise is smooth and flawless

[@Maurice_Moss]

@@johnnelson9742 does it adjust your speed based on road signs though? Because that's what I'm referring, not just normal adaptive cruise.

[@Yannerson]

The current Ford Focus has been pretty flawless reading signs and adjusting the cruise limit for the 28k miles I’ve put on it. Can’t help how dull it is though.

[@acefighterpilot]

Something about the silhouette of this car really prefers whites and silvers. Black is ok too, but when I see a red or blue Mk8, it's ugly.

[@volkswizard]

It’s very colour sensitive.

[@notmenotme614]

A guy at my work has a matt grey Mk8 and I really don’t like that colour. I love the lime yellow colour though.

[@danielrussell446]

Hi Andrew great review as ever always a very balanced view on the 8 sorry to hear the faults which you have had mine being the life I don’t have travel assist but have noticed the cruise slowing down for road signs and wondered like you about the km and mph issue it does frighten you It’s been a lot better since being on version 1668 it was fine on original software 1650 but on 1664 it was awful lots or issues including faults all round and left rear interior lamp flashing It’s a shame it’s a lovely car let down by the software

[@martybuzz49]

At least you get the speed sign recognition. It's disabled for us here downunder.

[@botchok5]

@@martybuzz49 trust me, you're not missing out. The system sometimes reads road signs for the 'exit roads', if they have the signs close enough. Mine even managed to read a lorry's 'maximum speed limit' sign behind it, whilst I was overtaking.

[@shiugen676]

Must be something to do with early dealer models, as haven't had any issues on my mk8 R (delivered 1st of July). Then again I don't use adaptive cruise control much. I have SW version 18xx on mine. The car also did an OTA update which went well ( think only minor updates and not changes to SW version as per user manual ). Issues so far: Minor rattling from the dash panels when driving over particularly bumpy road Cannot add my VW account to the car and make it primary user

[@volkswizard]

Primary user too time and an OTA update for me. The issues are intermittent, the kph/mph bug took about 2.5 months to materialise but you need to use ACC with Speed Limit Preview activated.

[@atefm6]

I have the 2021 February production 1.5 etsi and didn't have all these issues, i had some minor issues like when parking there's a small delay when the pdc start working, and one day when i started the car the screen was blank until i switched it off and on again

[@simonupex2628]

Andrew can you switch the ACC off. If you can then do so because if the system can't differentiate speed and get confused between MILES PER HOUR and KILOMETRES PER HOUR then you shouldn't be using it at all until VW can get it fixed and anyway don't you trust your self when your driving, it's just one of these little technical systems that is making today's drivers LAZY.

[@rodm8009]

If there is anyone out there still driving a Mk 8 GTI or R that hasn't had the software updated to version 1869 and associated camera firmware update, then contact your dealer ASAP. It's apparently a UK and Ireland only update that finally solves the Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) KPH vs MPH, Driving on the Left and Overtake Prevention (undertake in Europe) issues. Had my car updated by VW Warrington mid June and its all been good so far 👌

[@alexandrefaustino2448]

just drive on the same side as the rest of the world and use the same metrics as the rest of the world :D

[@glynnwright1699]

Or drive Japanese and forget European manufacturers.

[@brhodes0]

This gets my vote 👍🏻

[@edc1569]

Nice of you to debug their software.

[@paulgreen1329]

Hi, I have a 2021 Golf 8 R. Do you have the problem of post code searches only bringing up coordinates rather than a named road address?

[@Justdigit2]

What??? Still a Squeek in the chassis?? I have had a mk7 and MK 7.5 with the same situation..... Really cheap and they are apparently not capabel to fix it.... Amateurs.

[@tcecoleshaw]

Why don't you just disable the predictive element of adaptive cruise control and rely on standard adaptive instead.

[@JM00-v9c]

Very interesting and honest video as always thank you. I wouldn’t notice any of those faults as all that kind of nonsense is deactivated 😆 but it must be very annoying if you actually want to use it!! 🤬

[@michaelb9664]

I’ve never used cruise control in my life. I don’t even know how to activate it in my cars. If it was mine I’d have all of these glitchy features turned off. Software ruins every user experience somewhere along the way no matter what it is. It’s a GTi it’s meant to be a drivers car, so why have all of this glitchy self driving nonsense in charge?

[@michaelanderson7715]

"I’ve never used cruise control in my life. I don’t even know how to activate it in my cars." - did someone set up your internet for you ?

[@michaelb9664]

@@michaelanderson7715 nope. I just think a car should be a car. Get in it and drive it, done!

[@michaelanderson7715]

@@michaelb9664 Cruise control is easy to use and a great benefit on motorways over long distances.

[@michaelb9664]

@@michaelanderson7715 never ever felt the need to use it myself, hence I wouldn’t know how to activate it. I’ve never tried, I’ve no interest in it. My original point still stands. All of this glitchy software interfering with what’s supposed to be a drivers car. I would be buying a GTI for the performance and to have interaction with the car. I’d turn the gimmicks off and they’d stay off.

[@rh3018]

Bravo.

[@neilwalker5740]

My golf R performance only has one of the issues noted and it’s really not much of an issue. It does do the undertaking thing even when on the right side of the car, but it stops after you accelerate past the vehicle so only does it once. Everything else is tip top, software isn’t slow, quite the opposite in fact and the car is absolutely the ‘shit’ round a corner and in most walks of life. It’s probably not quite the sense of occasion as my previous 2017 RS3 but then it’s nearly £15k cheaper

[@stevesje71]

Really poor show from VW I’ll definitely be keeping the TCR!

[@danielrussell446]

Don’t blame you great motor!

[@Buster-the-Bear]

SNAP!

[@MrRonan3]

Yes i will not sell my TCR.not had a single problem with it. Perhaps our last VW,

[@taydoow]

Great video and thanks for doing it. I have had the same issues with my Golf 1.5 TSI 150PS . With regard to the mph/kph confusion my car was fine till I went to France (where without me altering the left/right driving settings the speedo remained in mph but it seemed to know the speed signs were in kph and the little red speed markers were showing up at the converted kph on the mph dial, ie. In an 80 kph speed limit it showed a red marker at 50 mph. The fault only occurred after a few days back in the UK. Did you take your car abroad before this started happening?

[@volkswizard]

No, I never went abroad in that one

[@mooselook0426]

I don’t understand why speed control is invoked by the system reading signs. My GPS always knows what the speed limit is and it posts it on the screen. Audi A4.

[@petermoore5304]

I wonder after replacing your windscreen so many times has the front camera mounted behind the rear view mirror been damaged ... i have replaced quite a few and the area has to be perfectly clean e.g no finger prints or dust.. also has it been calibrated correctly by the VW techs? Hope that helps. Lovely car.

[@edwowen]

Nope, I have all the same issues and no windscreen changes

[@petermoore5304]

I know that alot of id3 id4 and golf 8s are suffering with software issues. Some of these updates/recalls taking 8 hours. Constant updates are being released. Hopefully your issues will be sorted soon. Its a new era of car issues.

[@edwowen]

@@petermoore5304 Its just tedious being a SW tester for VW. They need to be paying me. 2 hour round trip to the dealers for a crap wash and nothing else being sorted is a crap use of my time!

[@simonclarke1383]

Looking at getting a 2021 gti but the radiator coming loses is very concerning! Is this a big issue in the uk. And how can I check if it’s been back to vw and fixed or not…Tx

[@tomfoolery1967]

I love my Mk8 so far. I traded my Mk7 GTI Autobahn for the new one and no regrets so far. Maybe the software works better for US roads more similarly to Germany than it does in the UK? I hope it gets worked out for you.

[@iooob]

I have found that if I press & hold the SOS button for 20 seconds when the software goes wrong tends to reboot the system ?!!

[@seanlyons161]

"Software Updates" you're joking right? So now after installing updates on nearly every electronic device I own we now have the fantastic opportunity to update our cars..... Spend 40k on a new car that's not "complete" IMO is not a justification to get rid of my mk4 GTi and buy brand new. Thanks for the tip.

[@johnmuir8305]

Software updates for cars have been a thing since digital logic has been in use in cars. You just had to bring it to the dealership before.

[@seanlyons161]

@@johnmuir8305 so glad I’m not anyway part of this stupid idea

[@johnmuir8305]

@@seanlyons161 Sorry to tell you bro but at some point the software on your GTI was probably updated lmao.

[@seanlyons161]

@@johnmuir8305 on my Mk4 GTi? Don’t think so. I’ve owned it since 2004 never once have had to “update it”

[@johnmuir8305]

@@seanlyons161 Yea because the dealer did it when you brought it in for service.

[@timholmes5832]

I have the GTi and have similar experiences using adaptive cruise control ….. the car reducing speed whilst I’m overtaking a vehicle on the left hand side. Also, Lane Keeping Assist…. Not a fan of this at all especially during inclement driving conditions. Why on earth would I want my steering wheel tugging during wet weather? (Feel like skidding/aqua-planing). Hence, I turn LKA off!

[@millertime1227]

I have a mk8 golf gti and the only thing that annoys me is heater controls,apart from that it’s been a great car

[@volkswizard]

They are great cars in the traditional sense, well made, mechanically tough but let down by the icing

[@john_dee1431]

'No applicable fix' TSB translates to 'no purchase.'

[@JohnnyMotel99]

The fix is turn off adaptive cruise control.

[@tenzin044]

Hi. How is the car going now? I'm planning in spring buy golf 8 but I'm so worry about issues with software, which talking about so many people. So what do you think? Greetings. Tom

[@col8981]

My 13 year old Fiesta diesel doesn't read road signs but it overtakes lorries just fine.

[@paulw5822]

Far too many niggles for me to even contemplate, you said you are keeping the Mk8, is that the Mk7 CS project car up for sale?

[@volkswizard]

Mk8 is staying, Mk7 CS project has been cancelled as not enough views on intro video. I was toying with running the Mk7 until a newer Mk8 arrived but talked myself out of buying a new one as it's now too expensive with less discount.

[@paultasker7788]

In the autoexpress driver power survey the mark 8 comes 73rd out of 75th cars and rock bottom for infotainment. Reviewers hate the system on Leon, golf and Octavia. How did they get it so wrong! And who on earth didn't allow the heater controls to be illuminated at night. When the time comes to replace my Leon mark 3 I'm not sure I could buy a VW car if these glitches aren't fixed. Hopefully a software update will massively improve it.

[@iqbal8884]

Hi, did you need to put on spacers when you put your 19inch alloys on?

[@hotelcharlie-six5408]

Picked up a new Golf Mk 8 R with performance pack few weeks back - so far so good though you do wonder if all this technology is needed?

[@volkswizard]

I'm replacing my 8GTICS with a 2015 Leon Cupra which is a refreshingly tech free zone, no lane assist or adaptive cruise and it all works!

[@Scott555ish]

Very basic issues that shouldn't be happening. Are VAG UK sure your car is flashed with the UK image and not EU. There must be a tool you can connect to verify your configuration such as OBD eleven, carista or OBD Fusion.

[@volkswizard]

There are lots of other people suffering this issue in the UK it seems and it is intermittent, most of the time it behaves like a normal UK configured car. I am sure back in the day of analogue instrument clusters, UK cars had separate hardware but the modern digital era means hardware is common across the whole build and it's only the software's configuration that distinguises a UK car from a German one. Funny thing is Mk7.5 with the first digital cluster was fine so unclear why Mk8 is suffering these glitches.

[@billybodgit6281]

My mk8 golf gtd went in for a system update because I kept getting traffic alert and sos warnings plus my emergency brake would kick in when nobody around...but the few weeks leading up to the car going in I had no issues whatsoever....1 day in parkway VW for a system update and they've killed my car, there are more errors than ever and things not working now like changing drive mode...they let me drive it home with a low voltage warning which could have been dangerous...it's now been sat in the garage for over a week and I have no idea when I will get it back...they claim it needs a module ordering from Germany but God knows how long that will take and if that will solve the problems.... Cheers VW for producing a death trap of a car 🤬

[@martinlyons9460]

Hi Andrew love the videos. Very informative. I used to work for Volkswagen in Ireland selling passenger vehicles in Dublin and when the very first mk8 golf arrived at our dealership there was a lot of software gremlins. When it was pdi’d by our service dept the dashboard lit up like a Christmas tree. I was told by the master technician that there was so many faults on the cpu. It seems a lot of the software was rushed for the car prior to launch of the mk8 that wasn’t tested properly. That’s why there seems to be so many electrical issues with the mk8 that there is no current solution to.

[@volkswizard]

Thanks for your professional insight into matters Martin and your positive feedback on the videos. I get the rush to bring the car to market, I don't even mind faults on delivery but I do mind there being no solution 9 months after the car was built.

[@gertvanpeet3120]

New dacia Sandero....one strange thing..sometimes the right window won't open...five minutes later it works again..new car from 29 may...

[@JT-tq2ti]

Speaking of dangerous faults with so called “high tech safety”… I wrote to VW about one on my 7.5 Golf R (In California). The emergency braking feature which warns of an imminent collision, also actually performs an emergency brake for you! It literally slams the brakes on. Well it bothered me when the light would go on and it would blare its noise in traffic occasionally, and even less occasionally would actually slam the brakes, although almost always for some reason at slow speeds so it did not present too much of a problem except for annoyance. HOWEVER, I was driving on a great curvy mountain road once and took a steep left turn which just happened to have a large redwood tree planted right at the point of turn. Well the car SLAMMED the brakes on at about 30 miles an hour in the middle of the flowing road. It absolutely shocked me, caused a major scare, but luckily did not cause what would have certainly been a terrible accident with any car behind me, because there was no one trailing me. It was a complete failure of the auto system and would have CAUSED a bad accident (I could imagine a car rear ending me and slamming me into that very tree head on!). I immediately turned off this system (which thankfully can be disabled) and wrote to VW about it. Never heard from them, but it is an example of the perils of these so called advanced safety features.

[@ryckymanc6905]

It’s not VW it’s the supply manufacturers

[@stonepope]

Same issue with the ACC and false 'undertaking' noted on my Formentor. Haven't had any issues with the 70/44 mph issue though. It does occasionally change to kmh when identifying road signs weirdly. I have disabled the ACC from using road signs to control the speed automatically anyway as found it a little too annoying!

[@davidhaygarth648]

If people will trust tech for such big things I cant have much sympathy.

[@volkswizard]

I've never been happy with it but I like to test these things out. Car ironically came back from software update with it enabled.

[@suemunter8948]

I have a mk8 GTI. My sign recognition keep switching to KPH too. it’s been in to fix, still happens. Love the car to drive though. 😊

[@richardmarsh1332]

Too much tech bring back the Morris Minor!!!!.

[@cosmicheretic8129]

Wow the UX dumpster fire combined with problems like these mean I'm holding on to my MK7.5 for a loooong time!

[@derfstang480]

With German engineering there are no software bugs, just buggy drivers and countries that do things wrong (not the German way).

[@cyberphonic]

Just like the ww

[@youraveragejoe1]

Why do VW struggle so much with interior creaks and rattles?! I’ve been in a few Golfs and they’ve all been rattly inside. 1 had a vibrating dash when pulling away too. I’m looking to buy a Seat Leon FR soon (2017-18) and it’s putting me off a bit

[@gimmegaming5345]

At a guess the computers logic is switching between mph and km/h. Maybe try switch it into kph and see if the issue still persists.

[@spashley]

Agree. Seems like the software is alternately translating Mph => kph, but using that as an MPH speed limit. 70mph => ~44kph - Driver showed it flipping between 70>44>70>44 50mph => ~31kph - same here, shown flipping 50 > 31 > 50

[@paulthorpe766]

Looks like a Macan that has shrunk in the wash with those wheels and stripes !

[@johngriffin9720]

44 MPH is 70 KMH, the software is reading the road signs and assuming it is a kmh speed restriction, all Seimens based systems do it

[@Neil2022]

So the car should be worth 5k more than paid? Gotta love Covid 19.

[@sincerelyinsincere9268]

I have to admit I'm not a fan of all the tech in most modern cars, give me buttons and knobs over screens any day, yeah no doubt showing my age! Tbh with cars becoming ever more like devices and the on-road changes we're now seeing including more and more 20 zones, proposals to electronically limit speed etc, I'm pleased that I'm not just starting to drive now. I passed my test back in the late 80's so at least I've had around 3 decades of less restricted motoring. Don't get me wrong, I'm not anti-progress and I know many of these changes are for wider societal good, however for me the fun of driving is becoming less and less. Of course, that's one of the objectives ...

[@Lonely_Goat]

I drive a truck for a living and they all have ACC. I turn it off first thing I do.

[@Nurwin1]

Thankyou for this video. I have just cancelled my mk8 golf order. Plagued with software problems. Your screen hasnt failed yet but it will 100% i know you love driving the car but seriously who wants to buy a car they need to keep taking back for fixing all the time? Not me!

[@volkswizard]

I lost faith in the end as there was no suggestion VW AG cared about the issues we were experiencing in the UK, some of which were unique to right hand drive

[@Nurwin1]

@@volkswizard it's a real shame. My friend's wife has issues with her Tiguan it's two years old and failed. They offered 28k on a car worth 34k and have had it for months. My up GTI I have kept it's been fault free but I'm just not buying a mk8 not after all the problems alot of people including yourself are having. Quality control just isn't as good as VW as it use to be it seems. Thanks again.

[@marknewman6037]

I have had 2 Golf Rs, one Golf GTI, 3 Caravelles, and never had to top up oil between services.

[@Daniel-dj7fh]

Funny how people expect software updates to fix everything. The actual fix of the problem needs to be in the update for it to be fixed.

[@volkswizard]

True but you try and get that info out of a VW dealer when you book the car in - I was expecting the most serious fault to be covered by the current update when they've had nearly a year since Mk8 started driving in UK (where kph/mph issues will occur) to resolve these problems. Maybe I am expecting too much🤷‍♂️

[@Daniel-dj7fh]

@@volkswizard Vw like every other company wants to make money, once you signed the papers for the car they are not gonna bother fixing small problems a hand full of people have. kph/mph issues are probably the easiest fixes tho

[@jryalls]

“I’d have to wait about 6 months for it to come” and the rest, I ordered mine on the first week of January and it’s not coming till the end of November (hopefully).

[@iiAmMaddoxD]

My R isn't coming till the first week of September 😭 they keep putting it back!

[@misanthropist3877]

cancel them i have a r line and its the most dangerous car i have ever drove in my 24 years of driving brake assist to name a few

[@phenixlopez7979]

You should have gotten the Michelin sport climate 2 I have that on my GTI and they were great rain and dry. You can do your review on that

[@MercSLRFan]

Running all seasons on a GTI? Not sure about that...

[@TheScudabear1]

If your gonna put Michelins on it has to be P sport4...and the GY f1 assy 5 is every bit as good in most areas, so why bother?🤷‍♂️

[@ahmedvorajee2430]

Hi the same speed reduction from 70 mph to 44 happens a lot. So there is no way to fix this?

[@volkswizard]

The official VW line last time I checked was that this only happens when a hard reset has been performed (hold power button down for 30 secs). VW said this wasn't an issue they needed to fix, they were going to fix the issues that caused the need for a hard reset instead. SInce this tech bulletin I've experienced the 70/44 issue and now performed a hard reset so it doesn't fill you with confidence. Best thing to do is disable speed limit preview so cruise control doesn't use the traffic signs to set speed, i.e. it's like the system in Mk7 and 7.5, still adaptive, not annoying. On Audis traffic sign recognition is an option and still doesn't work, on Golf 8 it was forced upon us but I've given up with it. By VW's own admission it's far from perfect even when working correctly as traffic signs are not standardised and numbers appear in circles all over the place (back of lorries, tractors etc) and this confuses the system as does weather condition and a lot more. It's only on there to test it for self driving cars (which going by the problems, are a very long way away still)

[@BigSmoke146]

It is really strange that they did not update you to 1803 which is the latest update. I have it on my Clubsport which i collected 2 months ago. That being said I have had the issue with the parking sensors once as well.

[@volkswizard]

I think it's because 1803 needs new hardware maybe. Sorry to hear about the sensors. They are better now but still not perfect

[@toneskill]

The 2 problems are its a VW group and Inchcape as a Audi and Inchcape former customer I would never use Inchcape ever again

[@johnguidetti5839]

Why is that?

[@toneskill]

@@johnguidetti5839 lied. Frauded. Stole.

[@gerrigemmell9659]

happy with my 7.5 R, which I have had since new now at 25,ooo k and have had no issues. Hope you get your faults resolved.

[@chrismlarge1]

Interesting video. I’ve had my Polo GTI plus for 1 year now, I’ve had a creak/pop noise from somewhere near the fuel tank, happens regularly, went into VW for 3 weeks last Autumn, couldn’t locate the problem, noise went away somewhat but is now back with a vengeance. Also my clock/trip resets daily-no fix available yet. Also have a rattle from the silver part of the left air vent which comes and goes. Am happy with the car but feel a bit let down with these niggles. On the plus side it’s used no oil and mechanically great. Just think the build quality in South Africa has let it down.

[@markmahood2019]

Serious number of issues with the mk8 it would appear?

[@volkswizard]

I don't mind issues but the car is now 9 month sold (built Oct 2020) so when it goes it for a software update, I expect it to come back tip top. No coincidence the two major issues are RHD/UK market only, you can imagine the priority they've given to fixing those...

[@markmahood2019]

@@volkswizard well hopefully no more visits to the dealer! Still enjoying the content. Keep up the good work! Price increase of 1.5% on vw from 1st August. 😟

[@6lr6ak6]

Just wondered if you had considered the Golf R

[@adamcooney2788]

Hi Andrew, many thanks for posting this as I have just received my car back today for the exact same faults. I’m mad as hell as they were not able to fix with a software update and their solution is just to disable ACC. If I wanted that I would have bought a Golf Cart! It’s really dangerous and even accelerated me towards a police car which I just avoided because it decided it could speed up.

[@volkswizard]

Hi Adam, sorry you are going through this as well though it's good to know it's not just my car. Having said that the technical document suggests at a broader issue but maybe not broad enough for VW Germany to bother fixing, yet

[@matthewwestwood1505]

i was thinking of getting a gti clubsport or the R. But he S3 is looking more and more of an option. Ive been looking at a lot of the reviews on the golf mk8,heater controls,electrical problems,cruise control problems. I thought volkswagen was a premium car company.

[@volkswizard]

New A3/S3 is not immune to software issues and interior is most definitely no longer premium

[@BurekSaSirom5]

First car always have child sickness, so I take last Golf 7.5R 😃

[@alookintoourlife2553]

Just for the record I've done 4500 miles in my new golf 8 GTD and I absolutely love it to bits ... no faults and such a great car

[@cdpgbc-mw2kz]

I am on my third and last VW. I was going to consider a Mark8 but that dash, in my humble opinion, and the tech, is going to be a an absolute nightmare, in the long term, reliability wise. I guess when under warranty you will be okay, outside of, that it will be a money pit. There is no way I will let a car decide what speed I choose to drive.