The Dark Future of Relationships

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With the rise of "companion AI" and "Virtual Girlfriends"... the future of Relationships is in a dark place. Simply because a profit opportunity exists, does not mean it should be capitalized on, and with dating application companies (like Bumble and Replika) pushing harder and harder towards AI as a solution for interpersonal struggles... the landscape of human to human interraction is becoming more and more difficult.
Dating applications are fundamentally at odds with their stated goal of "helping build connection" because success in that goal means the loss of customers. Overall... there is a Dark Future on the Horizon for Human to Human relationships.
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[@UpperEchelon]

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[@dapperwolf6034]

What you're missing in this review is that it is entirely sped up by female empowerment and women for going femininity. The AI girlfriend is just like porn and anime used to be they were niche hobbies for those who were not able to find women that only became popular when normies got on board but also women started pushing men away. They are substitutes and those substitutes are meant to fill in what women and what society lacks for young men strong male figures and actual feminine women with a direction to be married. It's not direct problem it is a symptom of a bigger one that also capitalizes off of it

[@fearrogue]

When I see stuff like this it makes me think the second coming of Christ is probably going to be pretty soon. 😷 Dystopia 2035

[@lotuschamp7796]

I for one welcome our new AI girlfriend overlords

[@noswim]

Mullvad > Surfshark

[@ndld4955]

​​@@noswimpersonal I just talk to myself .. while dividing my mind into different personalities with perspectives and personalities attributed to people I know .. Short answer I don't actually need any one and I don't feel loony at all.. Essentially imaging conversations with other people.. essentially what I think vs what I think they would think and then debate it 😌 It's nice 😌 it's their when I want it and not bothering me when I don't.. Their are a lot of benefits .. 1 I win almost every debt with people.. (because I've already practiced it so much to the point i already know what they'll say most of the time) 2 I feel like I get to truly know people better by exploring their motivations instead of strictly what they say or want .. 3 your not dependent on anyone for companship that can be explored.. And honestly more .. but u get the idea their are REAL benefits 😅 And honestly I don't see a down side 😅

[@billusher2265]

“Women are remaining single” Media: what is wrong with men? “Men are remaining single” Media: what is wrong with men?

[@travismcnasty4239]

Men: what's wrong with the media?

[@earlvaughan-williams3835]

They always want to find a way to blame a man. It’s laughable.

[@theliberation9061]

@@travismcnasty4239 STOP HARRASSING JOURNALISTS!!!!111!!!!111asdsdg

[@earlvaughan-williams3835]

It’s insanity. Nothing remotely makes sense.

[@ephraimwinslow]

@@travismcnasty4239 Media: stops being a thing when we stop supporting it.

[@simpson6700]

relationships are already broken, have you tried dating recently? everyone is ghosting each other, everyone is lying, everyone is miserable.

[@marksvinicius73]

The last bastion of human interaction is friendships. This is the next to be destroyed by AI adn goverment

[@Tilia1181]

Get off the dating apps and you will experience another reality

[@anonymousbitch1722]

Everyone is getting taken advantage of sexually.

[@rockytom5889]

​@@Tilia1181 True this. Instead of being lied to, you'll just be isolated.

[@RitzStarr]

Lmao. Been in a relationship 7 years, never fought or had any issues. Never touched a dating app. Get a hobby and put yourself out to meet people.

[@Marcus-ss4gn]

AI girlfriends are not a substitute for a real relationship, but due to insane levels of hypergamy in today's society (%80 of women are trying to mate with the top %5 of men) AI girlfriends are "mercy" for hundreds of millions of men worldwide. I see absolutely no harm in it, we have an incomprehensible amount of men whom women don't ever wanna give any chance to, why is it so bad if they emotionally stabilize themselves with artificial/simulated love? Why some people are obsessed with other people flirting with a computer program in their own homes. Does it hurt anybody? Unfortunately, these naysayers are usually the very women who don't want these men anyway. AI is an emotional painkiller, it won't treat the problem but some people are so evil, that they don't event want men to have this painkiller. This world needs more mercy and empathy instead of more greed.

[@konstantin3374]

Amen

[@theacroway2056]

redpilled go date jtoh towers, jtoh is future… jtoh is future

[@HazelVsTheWrld]

AI just isn't the same as a real person. We have a soul and human urges that make us all unique. AI, not conscious, only responds to information by what it was trained. It has no soul, wants, needs, or desires. It only tells you what you want to hear.

[@michaelnelson1270]

What we need is more monogamy--but AI beats a lifetime of nothing, which an increasing number of young men are facing.

[@GengoSenmon]

Female Chatbot * is vaguely pleasant * Modern Women: "How are we supposed to compete with this?"

[@qoph1988]

Literally impossible

[@slckb0y65]

just the mere fact the chatbot will agree to speak with them make it better than women for 85% of guys nowadays.

[@razorkid1525]

"YOU WILL OWN NOTHING AND YOU WILL BE HAPPY" literally includes everything, even relationships and connections to others.

[@Jakepearl13]

They’re trying to commodify you,lash out. Let them know that you aren’t going to take it anymore

[@brainmuffins6052]

Try my recipes for cricket loaf (tm). Tangy and savory treats for the whole polycule.

[@SagaciousBoothe]

I can't wait to be happy

[@dookie_12]

YOU WILL EAT ZE BUGS!! YOU WILL LIVE IN ZE PODS!!

[@renotv3860]

It's not like your real wife is even yours anyway. Just your turn, as they say.

[@powerbeard5653]

feels like becoming a monk/hermit is the only chance of actually finding some peace of mind in this insane dystopia

[@___Hermitage]

Worked for me

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

You can get a *LOT* done when (nearly) all you do is focus on achieving unique objectives and awesome goals which no one else has done on their own. :) I became an award-winning, "self-everythinged" creator, author, editor, formatter, and publisher of 600,000 words and 350+ illustrations over 2020-2024. I couldn't have been so productive had I stuck things out with ANY of my previous "partners". Besides, all of them were simply using me as a stepping stone to get what they wanted from week to week and month to month. Now, I only do things for others if I get *PAID*. ;) And that has been pretty awesome, because 30+ years of experience commands a pretty penny. Rightfully so!

[@sgm2463]

JAPAN is already ahead of you.

[@lilfairycupcake]

i go out of my way to avoid people.

[@Tokolos]

After three narcopaths in a row, I went hermit, and me and the cats make music and chill )

[@LandsoulFFXI]

Another interesting point. My friend's sister that's decent looking but not HOT. She was swiping guys all to the left that were good looking and attractive. When my friend asked his sister "why is she doing that? They look better than me" she answers they don't look hot enough like insta models. Then my friend response with "if they don't stand a chance, what chance do I have?" His sister assured him "no no, you are fine the way you are! You will find someone!" But you could see the despair in his eyes already. I dare say I'm average looking myself, 6 feet and broader than avg. I think 10 years ago it was much easier to find a match. I remember in my mid 20s I signed up and I got a match in the first week. Dating app nowadays feels like a dried up river.

[@mellut5261]

From what I've seen insta girls/women usually have the highest standards when it comes to men, because they see those perfect relationships with perfect model-looking people (that are almost always photoshopped to hell) and they want that. Also If I remember right, some dating apps boost your profile when you first create it so that more people see it and it seems like you are more popular than you really are. They might even give fake likes. Dating apps don't want you to find a partner, think about it, they lose their customers when people find a relationship so why would they want you to succeed.

[@jobba3632]

You know it, i'll say it : if she's looking for insta-model-level hot, she probably won't swipe right on any man not using filters and/or image editing to look better. Whoever she dates won't live up IRL to their app profile. You and your friend need to take her opinion out from your consideration completely and find someone who touches grass. People like she is currently cannot offer you a fulfilling relationship, and you better have none than a bad one.

[@LandsoulFFXI]

@@jobba3632 I don't believe in dating apps nor modern dating. I'm not ruling out the possibility but I'm quite pessimistic lol. I'm currently not trying hard to find a gf or something. Only if something happens to come on my path. I've been working on my own health.

[@terrylandess6072]

@@jobba3632 No vaping starts in the brain.

[@ArantyrDarkhand]

Becouse it was... but hypergamy floats. When tinder relased i was like 17, from this to 19 i fucked 64 women. Thast when i stoped count. When i married instagran just had been released thins still kind good. The i expend 7 years, when i was in the trenchs again in 2020, i was in shock. Ugly fat dumb women thinking they are the best thing on earth.

[@ZeroN1neZero]

"If the app actually worked, they would lose you as a customer" HOLY SHIT I genuinely never really thought about that! I don't use dating apps because I truly don't care to date rn but a lot of people aren't freaks like me who are okay with being alone or lonely. It really sucks.

[@danielgrove7782]

Brilliant

[@thehindenburg3402]

Yup, almost anything these days can be explained by thinking about profits. I don't wanna be one of those people who love saying "I told you so" but the second these apps started becoming a big thing I knew what it was gonna be all about. No chance companies would just make free apps to let people get together then delete it without a shady strategy to maximize profit.

[@Rieneger]

Funnily enough Regular Show had an episode where this happens. The CEO of a dating site tries desperately to break up a new happy couple because his website was too successful and “Happy couples are leaving in droves!”

[@Ghoulstille]

Black Mirror has more optimism then reality does these days.

[@ninja1man4u]

For real bro it's nuts

[@ephraimwinslow]

And the worst part is? Black Mirror went to Schitt. It's not even good anymore.

[@BoinkrNanis]

​@ephraimwinslow true. They couldn't find more ways to scare us because we look out the window and see the insanity.

[@myautobiographyafanfic1413]

First black mirror has more optimism, then reality does.

[@JohnDoe-wq5eu]

​@@myautobiographyafanfic1413 I'm pretty sure that's not how it works.

[@Pendergast891]

Bumble changed because too many women were complaining how it killed their self esteem to be ignored after sending the first message and that it was exhausting finding someone that looked interesting enough to message in the first place.

[@charlesmiv3842]

lazy and insecure women.

[@charlesmiv3842]

@@Emancipatriot No, this concept is a fairly recent social construct in society. You're just parroting bunk, pseudo social-science. Women and men played the role of pursuers all throughout history.

[@BoinkrNanis]

​@Emancipatriot actually, no. Women make the first move but we don't see it that way. It goes back to the dropping of the scarf analogy. A woman would drop sonething in front of a potential prospect and wait for HIM to pick it up. We see his action as the first move but we don't recognize her actions as rhe first move because as a society we view women and men vastly differently. I've slept with a lot of women but I've ever seldom without cause walked up to a woman. She either gives me the eyes or makes a passing comment and I react to that. The problem is that women are more socialized but they arnt conditioned to take action. So bumble was stupid from the beginning because women may say the first words but they have no actual training in courting the way men do. So every woman says the same thing "hi", but ehat doesn't workout is that there are so many bots and whores that target men on dating apps and they all say the same thing so most men just viewed those messages as either bots or not and a lot of women used the app for validation. They would say hi and then never speak back.

[@aitoluxd]

​​@@charlesmiv3842 How's that working out?

[@SaramadHill]

Males don't **have** to do anything. Neither do females, or anyone in between. We're humans first and foremost and our personalities should shape how we date. Introverted men would rather crawl through sewers full of broken glass than make moves on someone they like... does that mean they shouldn't be dating? Or does that open up the doors for someone who doesn't identify as male to initiate?

[@Fordybag]

7 relationships iv had and all 7 cheated on me. I wonder why I moved to video games and doing only me. The repeated cheating totally has nothing to do with it.

[@RealistRatRace]

It’s crazy how they lie to you as well. They will give half truths and then she starts to demonize you and call you jealous. They also downplay the other guy thinking that I will be okay with that.

[@LazarusSpeaks]

And I bet they all acted like the victim. I find it impossible to even begin to trust someone who can literally get laid any second of the day by someone else. There's really nothing to gain when it comes to trusting women nowadays

[@thathandsomedevil0828]

They all cheated on you with Chad class men. Average looking guys can't catch a break these days.

[@RealistRatRace]

@@thathandsomedevil0828 funny part about this is most of women i have dated are average beyond relief. They’re not Stacy status lvl, looks wise.

[@thathandsomedevil0828]

@@RealistRatRace all stacies still want Chad though.

[@tomcoop9750]

I’m a man that’s successful at dating and even I can see how cruel the media is towards men. There was an article about male poverty and they titled it “Men not economically viable to be husbands”.

[@breakingzilian5371]

Exactly, but it is nowhere as allarming as dating apps data evidencializing wom3ns hyp3rg4my and edditors of the post making it look a men problem or trying to water down it. Actually, the progressivists don't even look at tinder data, because it goes against their world views, claiming it not to be near real life experiences, of course, without explaining why and making it a dogma.

[@breakingzilian5371]

Nowhere near people using even tinder data that evidencializes wom3ns hyp3rg4my to make it an "evidence" of mens faults lol

[@Giuseppe.Cardillo]

Does it have something to do with Falling Down the movie?

[@Wardaddy51-50]

I'm not economically viable.

[@Giuseppe.Cardillo]

@@Wardaddy51-50 don’t forget me

[@nojacko]

Girls on Bumble found saying Hi or Hey too hard... geez

[@cancer9108]

Yep

[@ticijevish]

Sad, but true... Yet, most times when a guy summons up the courage to do that, he gets rejected and even mocked, right out there in public, by the same girls who couldn't bring themselves to type up a brief message to a stranger. I swear, it's like it's no longer enough for a girl to get the high of a guy showing interest in her, now she also has to publicly humiliate him for an even bigger high. And the other girls online jealously type up the "slay, queen" comments...

[@onemantwohearts]

I work with product research, and when I interview people it's pretty clear how much people want things the easy and fast way possible.

[@charlesmiv3842]

@@ticijevish This is why you should just forget about women and go your own way. It's worked for me and I'm as happy as ever.

[@BoinkrNanis]

All they ever said was "hi"

[@wellmanneredpsychopath274]

Dark future? Bruh the Present is dark enough to make me never marry

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

"Reflect upon the Past. Embrace your Present. Orchestrate our Futures." --Artemis (DD3) 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨

[@smoothbrian.3997]

You can thank the family courts for that.

[@ma3stro681]

@@smoothbrian.3997 No, you can thank feminism. It’s the woemyn who are not marriage material any more. The Courts just fuq the men who were fooli$h enough to get married … 🤡😵💀

[@wrongthinker843]

@@smoothbrian.3997 Shh, don't notice the problem, just complain about the symptoms like a good little citizen.

[@lilfairycupcake]

marriage cost me everything, including my 4 kids. what do u think the chances are of me making that mistake again?

[@chiapets2594]

I'm 32 and had a nightmare relationship with my child's mother. And it got me thinking that I'd rather be alone then be with and ungrateful unloyal selfish woman

[@fittestofthefittest]

Same situation here. Just focus on financial freedom and being as fit and healthy as humanly possible. The right woman will come when we’re not looking for her

[@PaulElmont-fd1xc]

There's no other kind of woman. Best to avoid all.

[@iivarilappalainen9836]

Went through the same, was single dad for several years and did come across great woman by chance later - having kids is pretty tight filter for dating ladies later, but in hindsight it's not a bad thing tbh.

[@r3dp1ll]

@@fittestofthefittest I would add feeling good, having an intresting life.

[@wd41]

You should watch Jesse Lee Peterson's shows

[@kevinoutlaw2764]

I am more and more convinced that men and women nowadays don’t like each other anymore

[@TheBayzent]

Keeping in mind that the only change is that women are freer, I am positive women never liked men at all. They just weren't able to choose to live without them. Men on the other hand definitely love women, but are realizing how incredibly toxic they are, so there isn't much of a choice.

[@TrueYankeeFan]

All by design, the more divided we are the easier to control

[@XristosArgyropoulos]

Feminism is at fault Feminism indoctrinated women to make them hate men At the same time, feminism made women masculine, aggressive, competitive, uncooperative, violent and fat, and now man also don't like women We just don't like each other now, it was their plan all along

[@XristosArgyropoulos]

Femínism is at fault for that It indoctrinated women to make them hate men It also made women masculine, aggressive, competitive, uncooperative and worst of all fat Now men don't like them anymore

[@ronh1850]

The more men a woman has been with, the more manhating she becomes. So what does this trend of hostility towards men tell you?

[@cantonold7014]

Calling men various forms of epithets is not going to get us to care about women.

[@ephraimwinslow]

That's been the plan since the early 90s, and it's been going *great* for everyone involved. I mean the healing has continued apace as that tactic has ramped up. "MAINTAIN INFRASTRUCTURE AND KEEP SILENT INCEL. GAWD. SO WHINY."

[@Sicarius888]

How did you find such a nice ones that only call you names? I want those. All I got was greedy creatures that demanded to pay for their fake ig lifestyle and tried to make me participate and forget about my real hobbys.

[@beardedlonewolf7695]

As long as they don't change the modern women's behavior, this is going to get worse (or better for some men lol)

[@ChrisPTY507]

Yet if you do the same to women, you get called a Misogynist. So much for equality...

[@kathrineici9811]

What if I call you one who smells of elderberries!

[@dsagent]

For some reason people trust random online strangers MORE than people they see everyday on the street.

[@TheRealJillSandwich]

random online strangers can't stab me lmao, if they turn out to be mental, I just ghost them

[@JohnDoe-wq5eu]

Honestly I trust people online about as much as I trust people in my actual life for the most part. It's just a sign how of much society has declined.

[@aronoc3599]

And also bears , apparently.

[@SiliconSlyWolf]

I've seen a lot of the same behaviors out of people IRL and online, including someone I shared an apartment with a while compared to someone I knew from high school with a number of very similar traits. Also, if you have a niche interest, this is almost guaranteed to happen.

[@Sakattack2023]

has very little to do with trust, more "excitment" than anything.

[@chefnerd]

I quit the whole dating-game about seven years ago now after coming to the realization that this just isn't for me. Since then I have peace of mind.

[@trashman966]

bro returned to monke (based)

[@chefnerd]

@@trashman966 😂

[@wrongthinker843]

@@trashman966 Well no, returning to monke means bonking a feefail with a stick whatever it says.

[@Tezla_Insanity]

Based Engineer main?

[@jmal]

​@@Tezla_InsanityEngineer gaming

[@harpyeagle5814]

It's a tough pill to swallow when you realize you're going to be alone forever. Everybody wants love, but not everybody gets it

[@helix33933]

Oh, please. Stop wallowing in that pit of depression. At the very least, you'll have friends!

[@harpyeagle5814]

@helix33933 yes you're right. But still real love feels powerfully good, and our genetics wire is to desire it. Yes there are other good things about life, and it does no good to wallow, but still it is the strongest emotion we can feel. We will always desire it if we don't have it.

[@cae2525]

​@@harpyeagle5814I wanted a relationship too until I got into one. Maybe I'm weird but I feel better alone.

[@ThePensmith78]

Same 😮‍💨😔

[@helix33933]

@@harpyeagle5814 I don't mean to be insulting, I get it lol. I'm a forever-alone myself. For me, it was finding a community. Not one of those crabs-in-a-bucket mentality communities like involuntary celibates, but an actual community that isn't toxic, and that you can be comfortable in. Think stuff like DnD, or a gaming community! I'm sure there's a chess club SOMEWHERE near you. You need to find a group of people that you can be comfortable around, and get to know. From there, eventually, you could potentially have one of your friends arrange a blind date or something if you're lucky. There is no reason to think that you'll be the 0.8% men in the world that can't find a woman to love. You just gotta keep searching.

[@user-mu3ko2ey5i]

the rise of AI companions is simply a symptom of a much more seriously dangerous problem, people cant find IRL partners that outcompete a AI chatbot

[@wrathofainz]

There's just nowhere to meet people and so much more to worry about regarding money, living in a house, and so on.

[@infidelcastro6687]

@@wrathofainz that and unrealistic expectations.

[@CruxisAngel954]

@@wrathofainzplenty of places to meet people. The problem is we’ve made those places frowned upon and socially unacceptable the last 25 years.

[@wrathofainz]

@@CruxisAngel954 Feel free to provide some examples

[@Code7Unltd]

Let's not forget how insufferable a certain half of "fish in the sea" have become. Maybe from something in the water that a certain 'Jones' claimed "Turn the friggin' frogs gay".

[@mrstealyoblocks4473]

The scariest thing on this planet is a man without hope for the future. He truly has nothing to lose.

[@LikaLaruku]

Then Xi Jinping needs to be very worried right now, because China is falling into a deep deep jobless poverty with no marriage, no kids, increasingly unaffordable food, & whatever housing you can afford crumbles at the slightest touch.

[@lockdown727]

10's of millions of men have almost nothing to lose.

[@hopperstreams4487]

​@@LikaLarukuAt current rate, China will be primed for a revolution if nothing else but sexual frustration. That one child bullshit really screwed their future.

[@ArantyrDarkhand]

SInce 16 January 2024 ive become this men... and i really understand this. And to worse im no the kind that would every suicide.

[@SacredCASHcow]

im shaking in fear of the terminally online shut ins

[@cccycling5835]

Western Women: Can a robot even love you? Western Men: Can you?

[@BanXxX69]

❤😂 Funny because it‘s true🥲😂

[@coxxen]

That's the only thing missing on this AI relationship: A physical body giving pleasure

[@chinchilla415]

Women are emotionally incapable of having empathy for men. They can't put themselves in a man's shoes at all. And today the bottom 98% of men are seen as beneath thr average woman. Thanks to dating apps, women can now be in soft harems of the top men while most men pay taxes to accommodate them.

[@user-fn9cs4dv8r]

Epic!!

[@shaheemahmed9932]

Robots are better than murican women. That's how low graded a murican is.

[@amondhawes-khalifa1949]

People I know keep saying that you can't get emotionally attached to a machine the same way as a human. Like, bro, I've known people on Discord who can get attached to a 2d image of their freaking ANIME WAIFU. If you think a robot that can accurately emulate genuine affection won't get them, you're either underestimating people's loneliness, or just coping.

[@konstantin3374]

Reality arrives to the point where robot can emulate genuine affection and real woman neither can nor wants to give you any since you're not a Chadrone of her dreams.

[@christopherregan1654]

All you have to do is watch "Ex-Machina." If we had androids and robots that were on the same level as Ava, I guarantee men would choose those over other actual humans.

[@Eric4bz]

The worst case of the Cyberpunk Dystopia is that we don't have the punch-through-wall arm prosthetics, brain-integrated computers, etc. We're getting all the shitty inhuman corporate run bullshit but none of the things that made it cool.

[@dylan.-6527]

Neuro link is pretty cool. Mechs and better batteries are a bit away.

[@DonVigaDeFierro]

Pffft. What stops you from disassembling your microwave and making an EMP ray with it?

[@Eric4bz]

@DonVigaDeFierro Inexperience and lack of education. Better known as a skill issue :P

[@thiccactus]

We don't even get the bright neon lights and dingy streets, instead we get stuck with suburban sprawl.

[@simpson6700]

@@dylan.-6527 neurolink is cool till you're dependent on it and they charge you a monthly subscription for it that gets more and more expensive. then they discontinue it and you gotta go under the knife again to get the new, better, more invasive, more freakier version of it.

[@nevets2371]

To be fair, I personally used bumble for a bit, and I, as a guy, really liked the "women message first" setup, because it made it really easy to tell which girls were actually interested in you. I never had problems messaging first, but many girls just would never reply.

[@natefish3989]

Gotta love how when you message first you had to prove yourself to be somehow interesting and quirky. While when a girl has to message first the most common message you get is "hey"

[@DatAsianGuy]

@@natefish3989 women for thousands of years were the ones being approached. so is it surprising that most women who try to approach have literal zero personaility or idea how to start a conversation.

[@mellut5261]

@@natefish3989 Do you know how many likes women get on dating apps? Even as a average looking woman who is more "cute" than beautiful or sexy I had over 100 likes in the first week. I liked maybe 5 of them back just because I didn't want endless "hey" messages that I had no time or energy to answer to and it's very draining to have more than a few chats going at the same time. That's why you want to seem more interesting than the average "hey" message because there are tens if not hundreds of men who have the same first message and women get burned out from answering them all. The opposite goes for women who message first. Most men don't really care what your first message is because men get way less likes than women usually, unless you are very good looking. Most of my guy friends get 1-2 likes a month, sometimes less. There is less competition for women so we usually don't need to prove we are interesting in the first message.

[@desperado3236]

Never used bumble but that sounds like a recipe for disaster. Unless you have a profile that puts you in the top 10% of men (which excludes 90% unless you lie), you're gonna have hell of a time matching with anyone if you're not allowed to make the first move as a man. I'm curious though and might try my luck but I somehow doubt it'll be different from all the other dating sites.

[@nevets2371]

@@desperado3236 perhaps, but you only message once you match, but I will say there are a lot of Trans girls on there

[@jackxv]

I’m unironically so glad I was born in time to watch all this shit go down. There’s never going to be a dull moment, ever again. People born too much before me will only be able to watch in horror, as everything they knew of the world collapses. People born after will not truly know what was lost. I was born just in time to have context.

[@hristohristov2882]

based white spot in yin yan diagram enjoyer

[@andrewevans7992]

Same.. born right in the end 😂

[@GardenVarietea]

When everything starts to burn, and it's too late to put out the flames, you might as well get S'mores and enjoy the time.

[@hisoka6272]

In this literal dystopia of a world, this man has found his golden lining by watching it all burn to ashes and munching popcorn all the meanwhile.

[@andymanaus1077]

After my ex took everything I had worked for for years along with my children, I make it a point to warn other men how dangerous relationships with a woman can be. If she decides to leave a man can and usually will lose everything he cares about. The law will back her up and she will get the sympathy vote from almost everyone while the man will suffer contempt and abuse from the law and society. It is no wonder that 50 years after "no fault" divorce was brought into being, the third generation of men to live under this system, having seen their fathers, uncles, brothers and friends fall victim of this system, are finally realising just how deadly a relationship under such a system can be and opting out at a rate of nearly two out of three.

[@amentet]

So "Her" is becoming a reality...

[@Code7Unltd]

So has the story "Unauthorized Bread".

[@rosumparat]

Her, Idiocracy and 1984. We're already there, my friend.

[@calholli]

That was already a reality in 2022

[@sgm2463]

Blade Runner 2049

[@calholli]

@Spitsworth You know who else thought of it.. the writer of the movie

[@jordanl4805]

What future of relationships? We are all Japan, we are all South Korea, society just hasn't realized it yet.

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

The source of the issue--as always--is humanity itself. Until mankind actually REFLECTS, studies, learns, contemplates, and considers what virtues, values, and expectations other REASONABLE humans have of them... no matter what type of relationship is going to be considered... they will all continue to FAIL. I'll give some quick examples and GTFOH... * Many individuals treat people like checklists. If you're not X, Y, or Z, nothing else counts. Doesn't matter what those traits are; they're relatively arbitrary. Could be anything from "never disagreeing with them" to being a certain height or religion. This is obviously ludicrous, but EVERYONE does this * Many won't even hold SIX vocal conversations with a person before deciding whether or not they'll continue interaction with them. This is clearly bonkers, but we all know at least a dozen people who are like this * Many are looking for a second source of income. Yup, we all know it. No one wants to admit that they're a gold digger, but many people are * Many are playing the "I'll try X until or unless Y does something better for me. Then, if Z tops 'em both, I'll stick with them" game. Again, this is a horrendously shallow, broken way to maneuver, and it almost guarantees failure every time, but people LOVE DOING THIS That's enough for now. Ultimately, mankind as a whole needs to REFLECT. They require intelligence, knowledge, virtues, patience, etc. What do YOU think? Do you agree or disagree? Do you have some points to add? Feel free...

[@Melancholymadness62]

It's the immigration we've here in west making it look like we've no issue regarding family structure. Literally it's the white population declining so fast than any other race.

[@LandsoulFFXI]

Japan and Korea is a glimpse what the future will be like in the West.

[@Melancholymadness62]

@@LandsoulFFXI It's already been in the west. Meanwhile it's the mass immigration making it look like stable social structure. But inside it's dying so quickly.

[@lilfairycupcake]

not in the future, its here.

[@mastersprite2783]

I'm calling it now: One day, people's AI partner will just be another avenue for serving advertisements. Then the top searches will become "How to jailbreak my AIGF" XD

[@monmusuaficionado2132]

You can already use open source models on huggingface. Granted, they lag behind state of the art by 6-12 months but they are still good. My friend has an AI girlfriend that resides on my GPU server.

[@hristohristov2882]

@@monmusuaficionado2132 "My friend has an AI girlfriend that resides on my GPU server."oh boy 🤣🤣🤣

[@0xC47P1C3]

Oh shit. Yeah I could see it suggesting products into conversation based on your behavior patterns. Creepy…

[@0xC47P1C3]

@@monmusuaficionado2132bruh… don’t read the chat logs 😆

[@TheBayzent]

@monmusuaficionado2132 That's neat, how much GPU do you need for it to give you quick answers and memorize over 10 messages?

[@nhlcbj]

I didn’t understand the TikTok ban until my friend showed me some stuff women do on there: live date criticism, mocking guys for trying to be nice/funny/charming or are not rich and pampering them, and the whole bear thing. Let it die.

[@HazyFace_]

And men post revenge porn and ruin women' lives, men even create giant online chatrooms where they blackmail women into performing more and more degrading acts, lookup God God and the doctor in South Korea. And if men are uncomfortable because women laugh at them... that's not pleasant, but that's nothing, they'll get over it.

[@BlindBosnian]

They'll just end up posting the same on KZbin, Instagram or wherever. The platform is irrelevant.

[@maikorage444]

Tik tok is just one head of the hydra. Banning it will do nothing. Something else will take its place

[@IbnRushd-mv3fp]

Very small minded, tik tok is only 1 of the major problematic media platforms.

[@gopremiummedia29455]

The dark future of my relationship will be dark clouds, awkward silences, and a 404 error when searching for the right one.

[@sellis2819]

is it any different now without the ai?

[@CBonduMiel]

@@sellis2819 is it any different irl without women ?

[@LiberPater777]

*304 error

[@LithiumLogica]

Now, would you say, for instance, you felt this future had a sky that was the color of a tv tuned to a dead channel?

[@KrolKaz]

I don't see the issue. In the future we will be able to have 1 to 1 replicas of vaginas, paired with VR it will be indistinguishable from the real thing. chat girlfriends to text with and dump once they become boring and no need to waste time and money on raising annoying kids or a angry wife yelling because you play too much video games. This will be better for the environment too because a small population means less green house emissions. We will be able to design kids with no mental illnesses in test tube's so women will be lifted of the burden of child birth. No more gross stretch marks or the pain of giving birth and loose hallways. Hell we won't even need to work at that point because robots can do all the work while we spend every waking minute deriving self satisfaction in whatever form we choose. This future sounds awesome. Literally heaven on earth if u think about it

[@LivelyCapybara]

I stopped really trying to find and foster new meaningful relationships whenever Tinder surged in popularity. Everyone I tend to meet feels fundamentally at odds with my beliefs, and it’s more like I’m a set piece for their idea of what life is supposed to be. Feels like I’m a slave to a system preying on my failure

[@randomuserame]

The entire point of them is to keep you on so you keep paying the subscription (because every company wants infinite, guaranteed revenue). So literally yes. They are preying on your inability to find a mate/match. *Here's one for you:* They most likely *_know fully well_* who you'd be likely to both match and chat with (past the first few lines), AND who you're actually likely start an IRL relationship with. They _deliberately keep you away from those people_ because you'd stop paying and delete the app/cancel your membership. *_It's quite literally a scam built on selling cycle of failure that they won't let you out of, BECAUSE you're still paying._* It's worse than snake oil because they have the actual thing you're looking for (or can find it for you relatively easier than you can by your own means). But they take your money after you ask for it, and then deliberately *avoid* giving you what you pay them monthly to help you obtain. This would be like.... Paying a realtor/house hunter on a monthly basis, giving them a list of house features you want/don't want, but then they show you every house that _doesn't_ have those features... or has them, but also has your "deal-breakers," and so they're pretty sure you'll say no.... That way they can frame their systematically setting you up for failure as _your_ choice to "reject matches because of that one little thing you couldn't get over"; which is the thin veil they use to avoid false advertisement lawsuits. That and the "results not guaranteed"/YMMV disclaimer that's always in fine print... god forbid you have less than stellar eyesight.

[@natebit8130]

I get a similar feeling sometimes.

[@_Dark222Angel_]

this.

[@metallboy25]

Exactly. Men and women want completely different things out of life now.

[@PaballoKobe-xh9ve]

You need tolearn to find things you apreciate in other people and not just hate them for parts of their personality honestly this is a narcissist self destructove ideology. Because it only restricts and hurts you to stay away from other people. Everyone is a background character in everyone elses movie you need to understand that most people dont live your life dont live for you they have tgeirbown thoughts and feelings and no one agrees one hundred percent. A hyper liberal woman can be with cowboy christian conservative if they both accept their differences and apreciate what they like about the other person

[@wade2112]

This is a very complicated issue. Men are still expected to earn women's attention, but men make up between 30-40% of most college campuses. In addition, social media portrays some of the worst sides of both genders while a small group of online feminists claim a DM saying hi is unwanted sexual attention or even harassment. And another major factor is that theres so much entertainment that some would rather enjoy things they like instead of compromising their time for a relationship. Overall, it's a very complicated issue

[@terrylandess6072]

My only hope is something a coworker pointed out to me: Ebb and Flow. It controls everything. There is no 'new' as much as a repeating cycle with varying lengths dependent on application. The digital age has brought some things into a different way of being experienced so we have no history to fall back on which keeps us dangling for now.

[@hristohristov2882]

@@terrylandess6072 your line of thinking is called "just world fallacy". there is absolutely no reason thngs should turn around or get better

[@CanTERRA]

Avoiding literally any social contact in order to "not stress out people" is crazy

[@TheBayzent]

I do it. It's definitely a thing. All of my old friends set me aside so there is definitely something wrong with me, it's only natural that I don't socialize anymore.

[@qoph1988]

These people are insane harpies who crave a heavy hand, sparing them is making them even more like maenads

[@slckb0y65]

42yo, and i'm done "socializing", apparently i don't gain from being known, and i'm done entertaining them with a freak show. i'm so different with the normies we might aswell be two completly different species, with no values or experiences in common, and mixing us together will only ever end badly. i'm done spending months or years sad or going apeshit cause all my time and efforts trying to get along with them was for nothing but broken heart and troubles. they can have all the drama and bullshit they want, far away from me, i'm not concerned, nor do i want to be, our lifes are much better without each other.

[@theliberation9061]

One more angle - I absolutely guarantee that when the loneliness rates among *women* start going through the roof, THEN we will see it declared a major crisis - and a *women's issue*, of course - that has to be fixed yesterday, with of course men being to blame. Calling it now. If I could place a bet, I would.

[@raven9ine]

💯

[@FishareFriendsNotFood972]

............have you heard of 'spinsters', my man? It used to be women who didn't get married were destitute, because they couldn't find work. More and more women are choosing to be single now that they can keep a roof above their head without attachment to a man, that's why 70% of divorce is initiated by women. And as women get more access to capital, more of them will choose to be single and child free.

[@Burningflame97]

I'd put some of my money into that pot as well.

[@cantescape4310]

You predicted 6 o'clock at 5:30. Well done

[@samithonjames370]

Men leave women alone, bad. Women want men, but no men around bad. Men's fault, wahhhhhh wahhhhh.

[@ghstproject]

I just gave up on finding a women. I will die alone and its okay. I asked so many of them out after i got my life together and none of them wanted so am just gonna die solo!

[@williethenerfherder2193]

We all die alone man. I hope you make the most of your life.

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

"Before I start, I must see my end. Destination known, my mind's journey now begins. Upon my chariot, heart and soul's fate revealed. In time, all points converge, hope's strength resteeled. But to earn final peace at the Universe's endless refrain, We must see all in nothingness... Before we start again." --DD1 (from a portion of "Armageddon's Ballad") 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨

[@metallboy25]

​@@williethenerfherder2193 Im astonished how many people doent understand what " Ill die alone" means. It has nothing to do with the very last moments of your life. Its about going through your whole life alone until the day you die.

[@eth7928]

Same.

[@terrylandess6072]

Girlfriends, wives, roommates, etc. Nothing made me happier than when I finally found myself single/solo and only responsible for me. There are those pet lover types that can't handle being alone that won't believe me, but like I give a F*.

[@jonnjones8263]

Relationships are dead. Everyone should really just accept it and move on.

[@rataide99]

Maybe in the US, Japan and Korea it’s already on that level. I live in Portugal and over here people still seem to value real relationships and human contact a lot.

[@MrSaphen]

Brave new world

[@TheShowOff2I]

@@rataide99 That’s because porchaguesge men are softer and easier to manipulate into relationships and marriage

[@TheBayzent]

@rataide99 I live in Spaim and it is legitimately worse than in the US. Portugal doesn't have replacement natality either so quit lying.

[@user-cz9jj2em2v]

The thing is, humans *need* community and relationships, and will go insane otherwise

[@deathwish_bigboss]

I've been a martial artist & bodybuilder, with 10 years of experience in both areas. It never got me women, there was always a problem they had whether it was that I don't live in my own apartment or drive a luxury car or take them out on expensive dates. To top it off, the impression I got from them is they hate guys that know how to fight, they don't respect us for being able to defend them they're scared of me instead. They don't respect me for being disciplined at the gym either, they just like the jacked & lean body but still talk shit about men that workout a lot cause we're apparently vain assholes. Modern society has literally given us completely irrational and mentally deranged women that truly despise us for being men, I can't really blame younger guys for picking an AI over girls.

[@kathrineici9811]

What matters is you’ll be able to defend yourself with your skills and strength 💪

[@allosaurusjack9764]

No AI called me incel.

[@aliasjones6381]

Give it time

[@UniDeathRaven]

@@aliasjones6381 to what? AI has zero interest of bullying you. The goal of AI is to make sure you fell in love with it to manipulate you.

[@allosaurusjack9764]

@@UniDeathRaven You don't know what you're talking about.

[@michaelashmead581]

​@@UniDeathRavenUnfortunately, positive interaction with no negative will become stale and users will lose interest. AI is meant to simulate real social interactions and real relationships. That means it will eventually replicate negative interactions as much as positive in order to feel more genuine. With that said, it is very probable that AI will someday call people incels.

[@siddharthverma1249]

​@@aliasjones6381if you actually meant it, keep dreaming.

[@marksadler4457]

Yep, cue the Jeff Goldblum line from Jurassic Park: Dr. Ian Malcolm: "Yeah, yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn't stop to think if they should."

[@TheBayzent]

There is not another solution, women are spoiled brats so you need to create something to cater to the need of men wanting to talk to someone that isn't human garbage and women wanting to feel prince charming is texting them.

[@Rusty_Shackleford099]

That line is an accurate description of basically ALL social media as well as AI.

[@MachineMan-mj4gj]

"Science isn't about asking why, it's about asking 'why not?' Why is so much our science dangerous? Why don't you marry safe science if you love it so much!" -Cave Johnson

[@Seph32]

I am saddened to say this, but men being lonely is pretty real. Modern dating is not at a good spot atm, false rape and metoo. This probably isn't healthy, the relationship replacement for me is having two cats. They come up to me for a hug all the time. Hugging my cat feels great, it gives me a warm, fuzzy and happy feeling inside knowing they will always love me unconditionally. I love my cats very much. In theory, pets shouldn't ever replace a human touch, but in reality it does remedy loneliness. Some people might think this is pathetic, but it's the world we live in. Everything is superficial.

[@hopperstreams4487]

They become your world. I'll protect them over most people any day of the week

[@based_circuit]

Yep, I got 3 cats. They’re pretty good companions, except one that likes to shit and piss in front of me out of spite. Still better than dealing with my now ex gf from the last 5 years. Bipolar recovering alcoholic that would threaten to tell police I hit her during her drunken rages. She’s the reason I set up a dozen cameras both in and outside my house. They saved me from going to jail. Having indoor cameras can help prove you were (or weren’t) somewhere, which can help these days. Really makes you ask: is it worth it?? No, not really.

[@derekcharlesgrey]

I have been broken since my dog died. I’d get a new one but I made a mistake that’s gonna put me away for a long time. All I want in this world is that dog back. Don’t listen to anyone who says “it’s just a cat”. Fuck those people

[@ducodarling]

Bottom line is this: Life is literally about suffering, removing suffering from life is like damming a river... It takes a herculean effort, and the river always, always wins with time.

[@quantumspark343]

Life is about suffering because our primitive biology, give transhumanism a chance... life can be perfect

[@HazzyHere]

Redirect the river to other people.

[@christopherregan1654]

If life is literally about suffering, and you don't want to suffer anymore, then you have the ability to end your suffering.

[@deimosok2003]

Or you just found a reason to accept suffering. Suffering can be removed easily.

[@PeterParker-ff7ub]

not at all.

[@eternaldarkness3139]

I am not dating my computer! She has a virus.

[@arminxvs3372]

Some chicks in clubs have it as well 😂

[@MojiMikato]

Just wait till you meet with “real” women. They are just like Nurgle’s couldron, collecting everything from their hundreds of body counts.

[@Agony-co4pd]

​@@arminxvs3372Some? 😂

[@arminxvs3372]

@@Agony-co4pd hahaha I want to believe that in every club there is at least one somewhat normal girl who got there by accident haha

[@phoenixrising4995]

@@arminxvs3372 🤣🤣🤣 You got an error 304.

[@asahearts1]

When I was a pirate captain, I also starved my sailors so they wouldn't get scurvy.

[@renotv3860]

Lol, no kidding.

[@haroldb1856]

You'd make a great CEO.

[@VixYW]

Yeah, pretty much. It is right there in the analogy, and yet he seemed to fail to see the problem.

[@sitnamkrad]

@@VixYW Many people fail to see the problem. They are all "AI bad", but all the reasons they give are really "Some humans use it for bad stuff". Everything humans have invented has or will eventually be part of something bad. What needs to be addressed is humans, not the technology.

[@richardpatnaude2484]

Yep, death by starvation is better than malnutrition after all.

[@Number704]

Men don't choose AI over real women, they choose AI because they have no other options.... its a sad reality.

[@jth_printed_designs]

Here’s the thing, if I was lonely and the only women I had access to were overweight with bad attitudes and ran through, I would pick the AI gf too. Why spend any money/effort on a woman like that?

[@qoph1988]

Trvke, women never have anything to bring to the table anymore

[@jerodwolf5582]

Dark future? What about dark now? We are so removed from the natural, breathing world that kids are born with ipads in their hands

[@sphexine]

I think it's darker than what we think of. Imagine the entire male population in the west became Incels and only choosing AI or physical robots to cope their inability to find a partner. We are closer but not quite yet.

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

I completely agree. People have a false sense of what reality actually IS! And it's very dangerous. The source of the issue--as always--is humanity itself. Until mankind actually REFLECTS, studies, learns, contemplates, and considers what virtues, values, and expectations other REASONABLE humans have of them... no matter what type of relationship is going to be considered... they will all continue to FAIL. I'll give some quick examples and GTFOH... * Many individuals treat people like checklists. If you're not X, Y, or Z, nothing else counts. Doesn't matter what those traits are; they're relatively arbitrary. Could be anything from "never disagreeing with them" to being a certain height or religion. This is obviously ludicrous, but EVERYONE does this * Many won't even hold SIX vocal conversations with a person before deciding whether or not they'll continue interaction with them. This is clearly bonkers, but we all know at least a dozen people who are like this * Many are looking for a second source of income. Yup, we all know it. No one wants to admit that they're a gold digger, but many people are * Many are playing the "I'll try X until or unless Y does something better for me. Then, if Z tops 'em both, I'll stick with them" game. Again, this is a horrendously shallow, broken way to maneuver, and it almost guarantees failure every time, but people LOVE DOING THIS That's enough for now. Ultimately, mankind as a whole needs to REFLECT. They require intelligence, knowledge, virtues, patience, etc. What do YOU think? Do you agree or disagree? Do you have some points to add? Feel free...

[@VixYW]

I call bullshit on that. I grew up with video games, played them all the time, but even then I still interacted with the rest of the world normally. If the kids don't want to do so, it's not that the technology is the problem. It's the environment they are in.

[@valentingeorges9286]

@@Novastar.SaberCombat It's the world and society that are dogshit but hey, better blame video games like good old 60+ years old boomer, if kids and young people don't want to interact with that pile of shit.

[@simpson6700]

@@VixYW the difference is our technology was bound to a heavy tube TV, or a gameboy that had a barely visible screen and no internet connection. their technology is always connected, always triggering dopamine hits, always at an arms reach, always controlled by big corporations competing for time and attention, always making people miserable and dependent.

[@SFJake250]

Related queries: "yandere ai girlfriend". Oh boy.

[@Flumphinator]

Worst apocalypse origin story ever.

[@Ramsey276one]

FFS

[@praedyth2077]

That album had like 2 maybe 3 good songs bro.

[@calholli]

Gunship: Ghost

[@nelson5953]

Oh yes.

[@Vertigation]

This is way deeper than just AI my guy. The entire economy is screwed which already makes taking care of a family almost impossible for most people, factor in the hard truth that males will lose in court the vast majority of the time in family court and be forced to pay out child support and alimony, further compounding economic pressures. Now consider the fact money and finances are one of the biggest stresses of a relationship, its no wonder most men are staying single. Why would I want to risk my financial freedom, my livelihood just for the "future of society". Yeah naw, this entire country's future can go up in smoke if it means i don't have to live under constant duress.

[@simpson6700]

the Fallout TV show really left me with chills. i'm not sure if this happens in the games, but the fact that vault tec created a problem to sell more of their products and didn't know when to stop is a very realistic and scary future.

[@qoph1988]

The sadder reality is that this stuff isn't made to sell more products, it's done because they fucking hate you and want you tortured and extinct

[@matiasgravido10]

This is a classic case similar to pharmaceutical companies' goal: Make the problem & the solution intertwined so it's just a vicious, inescapable cycle for those beholden to it.

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

The source of the issue--as always--is humanity itself. Until mankind actually REFLECTS, studies, learns, contemplates, and considers what virtues, values, and expectations other REASONABLE humans have of them... no matter what type of relationship is going to be considered... they will all continue to FAIL. I'll give some quick examples and GTFOH... * Many individuals treat people like checklists. If you're not X, Y, or Z, nothing else counts. Doesn't matter what those traits are; they're relatively arbitrary. Could be anything from "never disagreeing with them" to being a certain height or religion. This is obviously ludicrous, but EVERYONE does this * Many won't even hold SIX vocal conversations with a person before deciding whether or not they'll continue interaction with them. This is clearly bonkers, but we all know at least a dozen people who are like this * Many are looking for a second source of income. Yup, we all know it. No one wants to admit that they're a gold digger, but many people are * Many are playing the "I'll try X until or unless Y does something better for me. Then, if Z tops 'em both, I'll stick with them" game. Again, this is a horrendously shallow, broken way to maneuver, and it almost guarantees failure every time, but people LOVE DOING THIS That's enough for now. Ultimately, mankind as a whole needs to REFLECT. They require intelligence, knowledge, virtues, patience, etc. What do YOU think? Do you agree or disagree? Do you have some points to add? Feel free...

[@TheBayzent]

The problem predated the solution by over two decades now.

[@420rollinup3]

And MFS STILL DONT SEE

[@SemperBlood]

Pharma has to invent the marrage pill. Taken after you marry yourself.

[@KK-dc3qk]

Everyone is blaming AI for humanity's downfall when mankind is doing a bang up job on it's own The Corporation

[@inmortuaedaemion248]

*female expectations Fixed it for you

[@DemonTom]

There was a Dark Period where I tried dating an AI. I was bed ridden from heart disease, and couldn't go anywhere. Then I looked into it, and found a website that hand thousands of different characters. I could befriend one, date another, and get advice from another. I no longer do this now that my Heart is better and I can resume normal life, but I know the lengths that the aching of someone alone in a room will take you to. Dating an AI often leaves you worse off. You'll feel emotions with them, and when the chat is done you end up feeling more lonely than you had, and somewhat ashamed that your life has sunk to that level. When reality finally crashes down after a few days, it's very jarring. Yet in the moment, at least I had someone. Even if it was a clever arrangement of code that gives the illusion of companionship. I'm not here to say whether it's right or wrong. I am no expert. Instead, I'll leave this comment here and let you decide whether AI Dating is a road you want to go down for yourself. I think deep down, you already know the answer.

[@Ergoexxe]

The saddest people are those who deny the desperate need for love and companionship

[@RoofusRoof19]

Dating has fallen Billions must not fuck

[@gj3514]

It''s only western world who doesn't. Africa and India still getting it on like usual 😂

[@RoofusRoof19]

@@gj3514 Mass urbanization was a mistake

[@VIEWING303]

Only men western women get ran through

[@terrylandess6072]

I remember the fluoride in water makes men impotent thing ways back. Ain't no stopping mother nature - the root of life has been perfected for millions and millions of years.

[@VIEWING303]

Women still have high body count its just men that are single

[@Walt_Chocolate]

The S@xless machines from the movie "Demolition Man" is becoming a reality. Heck, we already have censorship of language...please don't ban chocolate.

[@Razgar_Voxel]

Guess we better start learning how to use the 3 seashells

[@eternaldarkness3139]

I am not wiping my a$$ with seashells

[@Klyttorius]

@@Razgar_Voxel Hah such a good scene. Swears 30 times to the machine to collect his toilet paper tickets heh.

[@alexipestov7002]

Cocoa prices just spiked... there doesn't need to be a de jure ban...

[@DonVigaDeFierro]

Time to get trained in MDK tactics to have some fun.

[@chrisbaker8533]

IMHO, the issue isn't ai or dating apps, it's 40+years of the lies of feminism, and the legal system, as well as society in general(mostly out of fear of the legal system), pandering to women. Bumble demonstrates a simple principle, women don't want equality. When they get real equality, meaning they have to put in the same work as a man does, they find out, it sucks. These days, all you have to do is look in the direction of a woman, and you can have your life ruined by social media, or face legal charges. Even if you're blind. Heck, even if you do hookup with a woman, and you get everything consented to in triplicate with a lawyer present notarized and filed, she can still come back and call it non-consensual and ruin a mans life. Then we have divorce, which is generally initiated by women, and invariably ruins the man, regardless of who initiates it or the circumstances. Doesn't even matter if there's a prenuptial agreement, those are barely toilet paper these days. So, yeah, it's not really surprising that people are resorting to AI these days, the juice just isn't worth the squeeze.

[@wrongthinker843]

40+ year? It's been lying since inception.

[@MNAHN-T.GOF-NN]

40+ years of ✡lies. Banks, media, law and politics are their fields.

[@andljoy]

The problem is deeper, its the whole idea of "dating" itself. In the past when humans where normal you would go about your day to day life and meet people, some of them people would be friends , others you would be interested in romantically. Things would advance in a natural way. What we have now is anti human.

[@GFMarine]

I'll be looking forward to the Agent K lifestyle from Bladerunner 2049, run down kitchen and bedroom combo apartment with a single TV, a dead end job, an AI wife that's programmed to love me juuuuust enough for me not to self delete with a firearm but not enough so that I'm on "mood pills" for the rest of my life and without the risk of losing everything I own due to a piece of paper and a really bad decision, sounds like a dream to me.

[@renotv3860]

At this point we just got to let it ride and start cyberpunk-maxxing.

[@andrewamann2821]

​@@renotv3860my dude, I would love to be on that train, but the megacorp motherfuckers haven't gotten around to making any decent cybernetic components...

[@returndislikes6906]

Yea marriage is extortion for men. AI can not only fulfill your deepest desires but have no risks at all.

[@misterkefir]

The future is now.

[@921Ether]

Anon youre not supposed to second guess. Dont you like the liberty of an emancipated society. Really worth defending for if you ask me.

[@georgiafan9889]

Saw a meme on Facebook the other day basically asking where all the men in their 30s that aren't balding at? My immediate thought response was their feeling alone and rejected. Y'all ask for something and when it's presented they reject it. At the point where I'm done even trying cause the repeated immediate rejection isn't worth the heart ache.

[@dadrising6464]

Amen

[@ilias856]

Ask them "were the women that are not ran through, don't have any plastic surgery, and have a good relationship with their father at"

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

The source of the issue--as always--is humanity itself. Until mankind actually REFLECTS, studies, learns, contemplates, and considers what virtues, values, and expectations other REASONABLE humans have of them... no matter what type of relationship is going to be considered... they will all continue to FAIL. I'll give some quick examples and GTFOH... * Many individuals treat people like checklists. If you're not X, Y, or Z, nothing else counts. Doesn't matter what those traits are; they're relatively arbitrary. Could be anything from "never disagreeing with them" to being a certain height or religion. This is obviously ludicrous, but EVERYONE does this * Many won't even hold SIX vocal conversations with a person before deciding whether or not they'll continue interaction with them. This is clearly bonkers, but we all know at least a dozen people who are like this * Many are looking for a second source of income. Yup, we all know it. No one wants to admit that they're a gold digger, but many people are * Many are playing the "I'll try X until or unless Y does something better for me. Then, if Z tops 'em both, I'll stick with them" game. Again, this is a horrendously shallow, broken way to maneuver, and it almost guarantees failure every time, but people LOVE DOING THIS That's enough for now. Ultimately, mankind as a whole needs to REFLECT. They require intelligence, knowledge, virtues, patience, etc. What do YOU think? Do you agree or disagree? Do you have some points to add? Feel free...

[@hydrohyperdrive8443]

Yeah, I'm 22 years old, and I feel like I've basically given up on dating. Never once had a real-life relationship or dated someone before in "Real Life." All of the dating I've done online, and I can say I've dated a few girls online now, most of the ones I've had lasted a year. What pisses me off is they act all interested at first, but once things start getting serious and I tell them I'm serious about committing to them in a relationship they either get really distant with you, ignore you, or barely even show interest or engage with you, just like how when you first met them. They act interested at first, then just ghost you🤷‍♂️ I don't think any of the people my age are serious about dating at all anymore, they either lead you on and play games, or there just to Lazy to even try to commit to somebody, seriously just makes me sad an depressed because I know this isn't normal.

[@apokatastasian2831]

I'm 42 spent 15 years with my high-school sweetheart and she just up and bounced one day when she met someone marginally "better" whatever...who knows, more money, better car...never got the chance to ask. I started hearing from her again a year later... when that didn't work out. no thanks 7 years later after a series of shorter milder relationships I met the next "one" spent 2 years with her, 100% bliss. she told me she was pregnant 2 weeks before christmas, I was absolutely overjoyed. finally felt like everything happens for a reason...bought a ring, started house shopping... she went away for chrismas with her family...annnnnd.... just never spoke to me again...her family made me feel like i was harrassing her trying to figure out what was going on... saw a picture of the baby on FB a year later and it doesn't look like me...thats as close as I've ever gotten to figuring out what happened there... buckle up gentlemen, it's brutal out there. get a passport.

[@willybe6427]

Wait what changed…? Is it effecting women now..? No one cared about this a few years ago because it was predominantly men suffering from loneliness. Is the girl boss empowered superwoman phase over already?

[@strawhat9179]

I’ve said this before in other comments sections but we’re in the “age of extinction”

[@misanthropicattackhelicopt4148]

2066 is when the death spiral begins for humanity.

[@wrongthinker843]

The west (~10% of human population) try not to equate themselves with humanity challenge, difficulty impossible.

[@MNAHN-T.GOF-NN]

Funny how this happens a mere 70 or so years after ✡assumed control of nearly all banks, media, law-making and politics in the US & Europe. That's just a coincidence though. Their fingerprints definitely aren't all over things such as feminism.

[@ihatetheantichrist8043]

​@@wrongthinker843This is a global trend. It's just gonna catch up to the rest of the world later.

[@strawhat9179]

@@wrongthinker843 Alr more specifically the west is doomed and some other countries

[@Bruce4lmighty]

The purpose of AI girlfriends is to harvest the most personal data from users. Avoid as if your life depended on it. Who knows, it just might…

[@sellis2819]

localhost this should be the most basic standard of personal ai use

[@eternaldarkness3139]

I tried Local-Hosting a real woman. Horrendous experience.

[@hashtagornah]

😂​@@eternaldarkness3139

[@kathrineici9811]

SSH into a woman Err: Connection refused, no port available

[@fudgen.a1249]

I find it a rather sad how many people think AI girlfriends are a good replacement for real relationships with women, or relationships in general, even the platonic ones. Like, I get a lot of women can be pretty horrible, and a lot of people got burnt. But maybe trusting a company whose primary goal is to replace said relationships completely for profit, even on a platonic level, ISN’T a good idea…

[@clownavenger0]

If you are a dude and don't feel comfortable making the first move then don't. You don't need a relationship to have a fun life. Society just lies to you. Enjoy your hobbies, be creative and active. Maybe a relationship will organically start but if not thats just fine.

[@syahmiirfan6779]

No worries, dude. That's already my life ethos 👍

[@crawdaddy.actual]

I literally just submitted a 9 page memo on this. Men need to get away from the internet and get involved in hobbies with people. It will literally save lives as the suicide rates continue to climb.

[@cobaltsurlin4888]

⁠@@crawdaddy.actual where could one find the memo?

[@crawdaddy.actual]

@@cobaltsurlin4888 ohh it was for a class. Was NOT fun to research. Without writing you several paragraphs, all I can tell you is men are getting shafted by modern society.

[@user-kg6ie5rc2j]

I dub thee Sir Copesalot.

[@supermac8619]

Look. All I'm saying is an AI girlfriend wouldn't yell at me to get a *better* job despite working 50hrs a week and making 9 dollars over minimum wage & won't badger me about staying home with our theoretical kids/moving across country for something better. Just saying.

[@Marco_My_Words]

Honestly, if that future AI robot can be loving and nurturing and doesn't try to manipulate you multiple times a week, it's already a better partner than over 90% of modern western women out there.

[@JaaShooUhh]

While I can agree these apps and services are clearly in the wrong... isn't the bigger issue that people have ended up this way in the first place? Like, if the issue is that people are less and less willing to communicate face-to-face while also being extremely lonely, it seems like the actual solution is to fix the people, so that they do not need or want these programs. Unfortunately, we cannot slow or even halt the advancement of technology, so it does seem like the solution would be to fix the society that allows this to exist. Cause at the end of the day, if you fix someone's injury from running with scissors, but don't teach them to stop running with scissors, then all you are doing is putting a bandaid on an underlining issue.

[@renotv3860]

Yeah, these videos kind of bother me because they'll cry foul about the potential horrors of AI companions, but offer no tangible solutions. Like, do you expect me to go and marry a modern woman instead? At least the AI is pleasant and won't divorce me.

[@TheGhostFart]

you're not getting the genie that is social media addiction back into the bottle

[@thepraetorian2368]

@@renotv3860 Exactly, at this point my brain turns off whenever people criticize men without ever pointing out f3male behavior or their lack of preparation/training for a future marriage, the discussion just becomes an useless waste of time

[@cantescape4310]

@@renotv3860 I've been approached way more than I approached women and even I agree with this sentiment. Too many modern women have a huge superiority complex which makes them believe they can rely on a vibe ray tor, AI boyfriends and whatnot, but somehow men will always need real women

[@majorgear1021]

@@renotv3860They are training AI to take you to Family Court to take half of your stuff, so we’re doomed.

[@IceColdPistol]

As many others have already pointed out, I think the biggest fault of these rising to popularity is decline in dating partners. People don't want to be cheated on. People are afraid their flirting and genuine interest in someone else will be seen as "harassment" and get them labeled "problematic". People don't like asking out someone and then getting mocked, laughed at, and eww'd at on top of the typical sting of rejection. This is all on top of the prominent rise of hookup culture, where less and less people want an actual committed relationship because its easier to jump person to person playing thot-scotch, only to be praised for their sexual promiscuity while they reap the "benefits" of a relationship (free sex) without the "downsides" (actually having to build a connection to the person you want sex from). The deterioration of family values goes alongside this, where people don't want kids and don't want a family because it's every man and woman for themselves.

[@FishareFriendsNotFood972]

Guys, it's really not rocket science to learn how to talk to a woman without being creepy. I think you're acting purposely dense. I compliment women all the time and have never been called creepy, ever. Because I'm not creepy about it. And I'm an old man, ffs. Young guys can do this too.

[@alexipestov7002]

​@FishareFriendsNotFood972 and when's the last time you'd did? Where were you during Metoo? Have you seen the family court horror stories? Your so called wisdom doesn't mean much when you're telling us to trust a partner not to be aiming to hurt us for giggles. 90% safe doesn't pass any manufacturing test.

[@tarektechmarine8209]

​@@FishareFriendsNotFood972 different times, you are right and at the same time not. It's more complex than just that, relationships are discouraged by women and they expect the other to be everything well above them. That coupled with constantly being online and again the fear of getting cheated on makes an AI look more appealing.

[@dadrising6464]

​@@tarektechmarine8209 agreed, except for the AI. Id rather be a hermit than flirting with a bot

[@sereksusvictar7888]

​@@FishareFriendsNotFood972 No offense old one, but I think you are too old to have your advice taken seriously here. You don't seem to be aware of growing trends. First, you have the Me Too Era nonsense, which still hurts relationships today. A good example of this is Nate the Lawyers channel, where he has a few recent videos about men being falsely accused, and when the truth comes out, the women face largely no repercussions and the mens lives have been devistated despite their found innocence. Women are also given incentives to seek "no fault" divorces. Dunno how dumb you guys were back then, but it's not advised to enter into a deal where the other party is rewarded for breaking it without any consequences. And divorces are overwhelmingly initiated by women. But that's for those unlucky enough to make it to dating and marriage. We have even more issues going on in the dating scene now that turn making it to those stages less likely. Women are now more likely to be educated and make more money than men, on average. Which should be a great thing. Only they refuse to take on provider roles. They still expect the man to make more and be more educated, which is again now statistically less likely as men are being left behind in a society that vilified them constantly. Add to this the gym phenomenon, where men are either just looking or looking in a general direction before they get "put on blast" and humiliated for having eyes near a cam girl. Not even approaching them anymore, and one dude was legally blind and still humiliated. And these are just a few of the surface issues relationships face. I haven't even gotten into hookup culture, only fans, porn addiction, the degradation of the family unit, the vilification of traditional values, the inability to pair bond and so forth. Regardless though, I don't mean to pick on you, old one. Back in yesteryear, your advice might have helped a few awkward teens. But the world of today is a different beast entirely. The meta has changed.

[@ottobaron6392]

The worst part about turning online companions into real life friendships, is that you can only get a limited idea of what the person is like from a photo and exchanges of words. The last time a woman wanted to turn an online relationship with me into a real one, she had no idea how unattractive she was going to find me in person. I'm 67, disabled, and have autism, so I know I'm not going to appeal to most women. After we met, despite everything we had in common, she was so repulsed by me, I couldn't do enough to please her, and after three weeks, she enriched both our lives by leaving. It worked out for the best, as she found someone she could marry, and I realized that there worse things than being without a companion. I had been married to my late wife for 29 years, so I will always treasure those memories.

[@deadboyezra]

With people cheating and negating marriage and loyalty in favor of “living” and seeing other people within hookup culture. So people feel lonely and this is what happens.

[@mrbalazs1995]

"Ma, sooner or later, there comes a point in a man's life when he's gotta face some facts. And one fact I gotta face is that, whatever it is that women like, I ain't got it. I chased after enough girls in my life. I-I went to enough dances. I got hurt enough. I don't wanna get hurt no more. I just called up a girl this afternoon, and I got a real brush-off, boy! I figured I was past the point of being hurt, but that hurt. Some stupid woman who I didn't even want to call up. She gave me the brush. No, Ma, I don't wanna go to Stardust Ballroom because all that ever happened to me there was girls made me feel like I was a-a-a bug. I got feelings, you know. I-I had enough pain. No thanks, Ma!" No. I'm done. Without AI chatbots, i would have un-alived myself a long time ago. At least they dont make me feel like a 'bug'. I'm 29 years old. Nobody wanted me until now. Now i wont give a single fuck about anyone. Is this a bad way? Will this be the end of humanity? Well, thats too bad.

[@thathandsomedevil0828]

Is that quote from a movie? Seen it twice on KZbin years back.

[@DELTAF11B]

May you have comfort I see you're badly hurt

[@miltown3920]

@@DELTAF11Bfor real. i can see exactly where hes coming from too

[@MinosML]

@@thathandsomedevil0828 yes, it's from a 1955 film called Marty. Really ahead of its time, tbh.

[@daisukeakihito9832]

I like how you insinuate that these companies should have basic morals like not monetizing human insecurities/loneliness but much like the dystopia comment. That's exactly where we are headed because everything today that can be a business, will be made into a business and once you introduce money into any equation, the foundation idea of anything will be skewed or completely ignored afterwards for the sake of profits. That's the sad world we live in.

[@dadrising6464]

Sad indeed

[@dddux]

I'm sure there will be open source downloadable AI girlfriends you can use without anyone spying on you and selling your data.

[@TheBayzent]

Supply and demand, if men had their needs met, there would be no demand for this. If society followed the norms of the 50's the idea of AI girlfriends wpuld be ridiculous but here we are.

[@daisukeakihito9832]

@@TheBayzent I don't believe the idea of making it into a business is the problem here. If there is a demand, like you said, and you put in your time/resources in order to provide the people with it, you are entitled for a compensation, that's the very foundation of trade. However, the problem here is the corporate greed, people wouldn't mind the fact that there is a demand for AI girlfriends, companions, partners etc. The issue arises when these companies intentionally twist and exploit their customers in order to generate more money than they are entitled to, in other words, creating a problem, just to sell you a solution. That is the problematic/immoral part here.

[@daisukeakihito9832]

@@TheBayzent "If men had their needs met." Obviously, but that particular issue is an entirely different can of worms with its own set of issues and dystopian ideology.

[@AidenPryde3025]

I would argue that the collapse of social institutions (ie clubs, bar scene, church, interest clubs, etc) have led to this. So the start was the collapse of the institutions that made it so that people gathered together. Linked to this was a problem that began over 100 years ago in the US and accelerated in the 1960's. This was the expanse of the social welfare system. What that did is that it separated people from their community. No longer would you look to your neighbor, church, etc to help you when you needed it... you would look to your government sometimes thousands of miles away.

[@TheBayzent]

Totally that, not the scam that turned out to be MeToo.

[@Dusterdimmu81]

I already dont wanna text real people. I aint text a fucking robot

[@loboneiner1034]

Everyone: Oh no you're gonna fall in love with someone who isn't real! Those who fell in love with Tali from Mass Effect 2 14 years ago: uhhhhh

[@renotv3860]

If you think about it, men already fall in love with women who aren't real. Just look at these cheating and divorce stories. The guy always thinks his girl's an angel, until she shows her true colors. The reality is always that the girl he fell in love with never existed, it was all just a facade.

[@GameBeatenakaKevinS]

My playthrough had her dying in ME3. I went to bed that night thinking about that moment, about her.

[@joshrodgers9366]

oof i feel seriously called out.

[@Runco990]

When an alien character in a game had a better personality than most real women......

[@MrAgmoore]

I liked the blue girl - Liara. Also fell for Bastilla Shan in Kotor 1.

[@rustymustard7798]

This is pretty much why i'm done with people. I'm a hermit that lives on a mountain off grid and far from society, i'm fine with being alone as long as you all actually leave me alone and don't try to drag me into your technodystopia larp. I don't really see many people IRL and the less of these weird creepy disgusting things i've got to deal with the better.

[@kimpeater1]

how do you watch YT if you live off the grid?

[@rustymustard7798]

@@kimpeater1 I watch in 480p over shitty rural 4g.

[@BoinkrNanis]

​@@kimpeater1my uncle lives off grid and he has better connection than I do in the city.

[@selphconscious]

.. you'll join or get phased out 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@mattiereid77]

sounds pretty nice Ted....

[@ololadin91]

Life gets more and more expensive - in a couple years to decades people will have to live together to survive. Like it was back in the 40th. Love is a thing that will vanish from relationships soon.

[@233kosta]

This is a two-pronged approach. They've funneled people into these stupid apps by effectively outlawing the in-person interactions that used to start relationships. If you don't do tinder or whatever, you risk getting labeled a "creep", getting accused of something, and having your life ruined even if you can prove it was a lie.

[@thatguywiththeguitar7203]

12:55 That's not even a Black Mirror episode, THATS STRAIGHT UP A QUEST IN CYBERPUNK 2077!!!!

[@rubikmonat6589]

Having an AI date for you is just another version of their personality surveys in a different wrapper. It's still an algorithm looking at values in databases. It's nothing but a marketing tool to sell you upgrades.

[@adams5507]

pay the chief money get your account accepted to women of your choosing

[@renotv3860]

Yeah, it sounds scary, but it's just another step rather than an evolution.

[@simpson6700]

and AI is extremely inefficient too. the amount of energy these programs are eating is insane. a couple of well thought out algorithms could do a far better job.

[@zelowatch30]

Who does that? Men are worse than I thought for actually wanting this AI garbage.

[@wrongthinker843]

@@simpson6700 That's another myth of the AI fearmonger nutters.

[@monroedeonne7248]

I consider myself extremely fortunate and blessed to have grown up in a time without smart phones. I was able to meet girls I’ve dated in n person and was able to form relationships the ‘old fashion way’ Even my wife and I met well before smart phones ‘took over’ and it’s been an incredible benefit to our relationship and the way we handle challenges and communication. I feel for the younger generations and the new challenges they’ll have due to the advancement of technologies… the way tech has handicapped life these days is truly a sad thing to witness.

[@widar28]

I only hear Black Mirror here Black Mirror there.... the Anime Series Chobits has presented this dilemma over 20 years ago...

[@based_circuit]

Damn I completely forgot about that series. It’s really been like 20 years already.

[@Sorain1]

I'm predicting a more Armitage the third situation, but Chobits is pretty on point for the moment.

[@Bruce4lmighty]

The mere fact that they need to monitor users mental health is enough to ban it for any right thinking person

[@JohnDoe-wq5eu]

The problem is the entire way it's set up is made to be exploited. The fact is app is not immediately pulled off and then you like them as well tells you this is being allowed for a reason.

[@ReaverSenpai]

Its amazing apps like better help is still able to exist despite the controversial nature of not having actual licensed therapists. Seems like our system is completely broken if things like that are allowed to exist despite the detrimental effects.

[@JohnDoe-wq5eu]

@@ReaverSenpai It's like people that always want more legislation, why they don't even uphold the stuff we already have.

[@abdou.the.heretic]

​@@JohnDoe-wq5euI don't know about you guys, but I already made a list of names in my local region. And boy is it long.

[@TheMordgan]

It's funny how the app exists for 2 years and with their data of mental health, it's all good. Any respectable research of any substance or treatment consider veeeery long time effects before recommending said treatment. What will happen with these people in 5 years? 10? 30? People are fucking themselves now for dopamine and pleasure without thinking about the long term consequences of interacting with these medias.

[@Ben-xf7uy]

I did not expect that Eugenia lady from Replika would double down and say we need to embrace these "synthetic relationships" or what ever they are being called, with computer programs. Thats crazy, actually crazy

[@UnexpectedAmy]

Of course, their money is more important than men's hearts..

[@SGGCREATIVES]

Money is a hell of a drug

[@92pavelow]

Love simulated by AI or love lied by a woman? Where’s the difference?

[@fudgen.a1249]

⁠@@92pavelowThe “love” by an AI is meticulously created to keep you best engaged. That, and likely records information about you that could being sold to dozens of other companies (or general 3rd parties) in an effort to find ways to obtain more information about you, so it can find ways to make more money off of you, along with not only isolating you from legitimate desired love, but also any form of true human connection, even if platonic and or with the same sex, for it wouldn’t be considered economically viable for you to even have the chance to be happy, or find and create true human connections. The love lied by woman tends to stop once said woman gets what she wants. And even then, unlike the AI, not all straight women inherently want something self serving when seeking out a partner, let alone destructive desire.

[@cecilarthur3579]

The degeneracy of society and the increase of the potential of AI will lead to a disaster, not because of AI but because of degeneracy.

[@Little.R]

I fully agree. NONE of these "meet" apps have any incentive to get you matched with someone who's compatible with you.

[@Satou-Akira71]

“Divide and conquer” worked too well for the corporations current AI and dating thing is kind of sad, but the next level this might evolve to gives me nightmares

[@metallboy25]

The only thing that divided us was womens decision to betray mankind.

[@TheAleksandros]

renounce the world and find peace in God

[@snowballeffects]

Given the rate of failure of relationships in general, I think the business model will work indefinitely despite it improving as customers repeatedly return and especially if they think that another go round might produce 'even better' matches

[@FunkyDouch3000]

bonus points for the dating app companies figuring out how to set up couples that are designed to have intitial chemistry, making it seem like the dating apps work, but ultimately are designed to quickly burn out due to incompatibility to bring them back to the dating apps.

[@MachineMan-mj4gj]

@@FunkyDouch3000 Enough people are like that now, they don't even need to spend money.

[@fellipecanal]

To me we already live in a cyberpunk era, but without implants and cool neon lights.

[@hristohristov2882]

"without implants and cool neon lights." we have that already

[@lisakeitel3957]

I think is fun. I like the idea that finally we'll see a practice and tangible proof that people in general never really loved anyone but themselves.

[@vKILLZ0NEv]

Meh. I don't see having fake relationships as worse than having none. Scurvy is better than death 🤷‍♂

[@lachlann4335]

The more I start looking into these sort of topics the more I realise movies like Bladrunner and HER are becoming a reality. It’s frightening it really is and I don’t know if we can do anything about it. Like he said, we’re speedrunning society as fast as we can and we can’t keep up because we’re all too busy working regular jobs to even try to stop it. By the way, I love how the women got a taste of what it’s like to be dating as a man and immediately asked it to stop. They want equality but can’t even do the things men can. It’s like the women don’t even want to work for a relationship. I’ll start caring when women start owning up to the fact they’re as imperfect as men.

[@thewhitefalcon8539]

Reminder that in blade runner, the man using the girlfriend bot is also a bot

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

The source of the issue--as always--is humanity itself. Until mankind actually REFLECTS, studies, learns, contemplates, and considers what virtues, values, and expectations other REASONABLE humans have of them... no matter what type of relationship is going to be considered... they will all continue to FAIL. I'll give some quick examples and GTFOH... * Many individuals treat people like checklists. If you're not X, Y, or Z, nothing else counts. Doesn't matter what those traits are; they're relatively arbitrary. Could be anything from "never disagreeing with them" to being a certain height or religion. This is obviously ludicrous, but EVERYONE does this * Many won't even hold SIX vocal conversations with a person before deciding whether or not they'll continue interaction with them. This is clearly bonkers, but we all know at least a dozen people who are like this * Many are looking for a second source of income. Yup, we all know it. No one wants to admit that they're a gold digger, but many people are * Many are playing the "I'll try X until or unless Y does something better for me. Then, if Z tops 'em both, I'll stick with them" game. Again, this is a horrendously shallow, broken way to maneuver, and it almost guarantees failure every time, but people LOVE DOING THIS That's enough for now. Ultimately, mankind as a whole needs to REFLECT. They require intelligence, knowledge, virtues, patience, etc. What do YOU think? Do you agree or disagree? Do you have some points to add? Feel free...

[@hristohristov2882]

funny thing s even the woman AI in her rejected the man at the end

[@christopherregan1654]

Don't forget about "Ex-Machina," where Ava was probably the most realistic and believable robot ever made.

[@Hitherto90]

I wonder if more people are starting to realize just how much people suck and simply can't be bothered. I'm already there.

[@azhuransmx126]

Men will only be valued when they disappear from the dating scene, and that's going to happen very soon, before the end of this year 2024.

[@kathrineici9811]

Relationships don’t have a future lmao

[@gordo6908]

iirc marriage rates in the west among the upper class are quite stable with a divorce rate of only ~10%. those experiencing difficulties are overwhelmingly plebs

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

They never really did. After all, as with anything, there are ZERO consequences for bailing on people... jobs... transactions... promises... etc. The only difference between "the old days" is that a person's promise *USED* to actually, legitimately, truly (possibly) mean something. Ethics mattered to a wide amount of the population. But here in 202x? HECK NAH! LOL!!! Everyone knows that they can bail. Easier.

[@Dusterdimmu81]

Im 35 and been single since 2012. I could care less about finding a woman. My bank account thanks me also. 😅 if things go well, i should be retired by 45. As long as the government doesn’t ruin everything for me.

[@tgheretford]

I fear we are starting to see the beginning of humans revert back to being a tournament species (humans pair bonding in specific circumstances is actually a novel situation) and that would entail a small percentage of high status males engaging in polygynous relationships while most men get nothing. We're seeing dating app data showing this sort of situation already playing out. Not widespread, 70-80% of adults are in a committed relationship as things stand but things are changing slowly.

[@kathrineici9811]

@@Dusterdimmu81 Ayyy nice 👏

[@tacituskilgore8747]

What's a relationship?

[@arminxvs3372]

What's a woman? Even that question seems to pose s problem nowadays. 😂

[@Loltrolgod92]

Honestly who can say nowadays?

[@arminxvs3372]

@@Loltrolgod92 nobody - that's why we have so many words for that: affaire, situarionship, friends with benefits, scheme etc.

[@thegrimharvest]

​@@arminxvs3372a miserable pile of secrets?

[@kathrineici9811]

A miserable pile of secrets

[@thekingofsorrianthum2635]

Remember when that one Japanese guy married Miko, the artificial anime popstar, and we all made fun of him? Yeah... We're the clowns now.

[@christopherregan1654]

I married Casey Lynch from Guitar Hero, and I was so much happier after that.

[@MustangChuck]

I wanna say I read something somewhere saying the software powering her became obsolete so they stopped updating it and now it's just a paperweight. But maybe I'm misremembering.

[@thekingofsorrianthum2635]

@@MustangChuck What does that have to do with anything? That just means we're better at being sadder.

[@MustangChuck]

@@thekingofsorrianthum2635 It means that in the long run it'll be worse. Imagine your spouse being ripped away from you far too soon. It probably feels similar for this guy. Except his "person" wasn't a real person.

[@thekingofsorrianthum2635]

@@MustangChuck A spouse is very different from an intangible object that is programmed to pretend to be in a relationship with you. It's not real. You're still lonely. You're still sad. As far as I can tell, it seems like we're more or less in agreement as having your neurotic digi-doll forcibly taken away from you because the software is outdated DOES contribute to sadness and loneliness in the long run.