The DARK SIDE of FAKE Multiple Personality YouTubers

[@PrincessTidge]

"The Demon Altar is a crafting station that can be found in Chasms in the Corruption, Underground, and exceedingly rare in water, above ground, or in Dungeons. They are the counterpart to Crimson Altars." - Terraria Wiki

[@joshb7326]

Wtf does that even mean 😂

[@PrincessTidge]

@@joshb7326 It's a joke about Demon Alters (Altars), if I explain it it won't be funny. Terraria players will get it.

[@joshb7326]

@@PrincessTidge It's ok, I think I can see the humour, it's just so ridiculous they all taking it seriously on tik tok etc

[@PrincessTidge]

@@joshb7326 yeah, it's crazy huh

[@glawenclattuc3127]

@@joshb7326He was doing some simple word play because “alter” and “altar” are pronounced the same way but are spelled differently.

[@Chibz]

DissociaDID videos feel more like "Hey guys, new alter dropped, free to use, here's how you can claim them"

[@SalivatingSteve]

She’s like the pronoun gal but with alters LOL

[@ashleigh9659]

We should get Trisha paytas back involved she brought the correct level of seriousness

[@sonofthenorth18]

My alters are all racist stereotypes from 1970's British sitcoms.

[@beatyoubeachyt8303]

there's a lot of British stuff that I look at as an American and im like that is super racist some of my 90s dance music album covers from Europe probably not just from Britain have some really racist covers black face and all and I'm wondering is this by accident I assume it was

[@kurtlee3198]

back when racism used to be africa based not this americanised slave racism

[@NaturesxMockery]

I think that DID may be real, but extremely rare. DissociaDID is treating it like a form of cosplay/character creation and Tiktok has made it a quirky trend, they make up their own rules and open the idea that just anyone can have it and that can be very harmful.

[@satiricgames2129]

Definitely real but look for real cases that are not sm grifters and they look nothing alike

[@NaturesxMockery]

@@satiricgames2129 Agreed.

[@gregmumbai333]

The good thing about Chud's mine idea is that you can legally compel a system to work 70 hour weeks with no breaks because they can work in shifts.

[@hope-cat4894]

Do you pay them with one check or a check for each Alter? 🤔

[@IamaCosmonaut]

@hope-cat4894 When they come asking for the check you just gaslight them by claiming you already paid them earlier and it must be their DID induced amnesia that made them forget about it. And boom, free labour. 👊😎

[@N.i.E.M.O]

These people don't have jobs. They are too 'oppressed', so you better give them your money or you are a bad person (and probably a racist, misogynist, ableist, cishet white Christian man, or sympathizer, which is the epitome of evil).

[@eugenesis8188]

My theory is she is trying to give herself the disorder by posting so much cringe that it becomes traumatic to think about.

[@glawenclattuc3127]

The hilarious thing is, the actual medical treatment for people who think they have DID but don’t, is to sit them down and literally say “no, you don’t have DID, you’re making it all up” Some guy wrote a paper about it. Very informative.

[@RS-fy9hb]

@@glawenclattuc3127 I feel like the way you're phrasing it gives a different connotation than what is likely true, although I haven't seen the paper xD. I feel like the treatment method is making them aware of what's going on, and that they can control it, rather than them just trying to ignore the fact that they lose memories for hours or days on end xD.

[@glawenclattuc3127]

@@RS-fy9hb Except from the videos, she clearly remembers everything the other alters are doing 😂 But literally, the treatment is to explain the real symptoms of DID, and then make it clear that they don’t actually have DID. It’s the same treatment for all people with social media induced malingering. You sit them down, and then cola in that they are just putting it on, and they should stop it. I would link the paper but I can’t really be bothered to go out of my way to do research on your behalf. This weird DID culture has been around for decades on Tumblr. They all conveniently only get alters who are quirky fun characters, usually related to a fandom they are obsessed with. A lot of them are probably just on the spectrum.

[@alicetoyou448]

@@RS-fy9hb they said treatment for people that don’t have it, so it would not be anyone that loses hours of memory, haha

[@RS-fy9hb]

@@alicetoyou448 Fair enough, I didn't read that correctly xD.

[@turdferguson9356]

that he/him looks suspiciously like a mid ass art-girl

[@JustARegularPigeon]

I'd still hit idgaf

[@beatyoubeachyt8303]

creep show art will be like heck you

[@bigben3089]

You shut your mouth. She is my mentally ill queen. She’s pulling off the heist of a lifetime with the method acting of a master.

[@rawumber6740]

At least trans women try to put on a wig, these terminally online “trans men” don’t even try. In fact, they make themselves look more feminine with makeup and lipstick like wtf. I know for a fact that these tik tok losers are more privileged then most of us while they’re able to pretty themselves up like this.

[@ohitsolly677]

In genuinely so glad to see someone cover dissociaded, She literally based her 'alters' from a DID help book 😂 she's ridiculous and can't believe how much she'd got away with

[@anymoose42069]

And then when Anthony had her on his podcast and broadcasted her bs to millions😭

[@scarletsletter4466]

@@anymoose42069exactly. He gave her the publicity. People believe anything 😂

[@Karmaisabreez]

@anymoose Padilla really had all the youtube weirdos in his podcast 😭

[@glawenclattuc3127]

This reminds me of the SouthPark episode where Cartman pretends to have Tourette’s syndrome so he can get away with saying whatever he wants, and he gets outed by a kid who really has Tourette’s.

[@HostileTakeover555]

She is so ridiculous and frankly disrespectful. DID is very rare and typically comes out of EXTREME trauma. That’s why it comes about because it becomes a coping mechanism developed in childhood. There’s an Australian woman who has it (and I do believe she does actually have it) - when you hear what she went through as a child it’s HORRIFYING and makes sense why this came about.

[@tanimal3964]

But, it was really traumatic when my parents came into my room without my permission when I was 7, that's how my vampire alter appeared.

[@jasonsmith6295]

Fuck I'm sick of people lying and scamming then getting pissed off when getting called out on it.

[@N.i.E.M.O]

Not allowed to criticize someone who identifies as an oppressed minority. Don't you know? Disregard the fact that most of these people come from wealthy backgrounds and have never had to work a real job in their entire life.

[@HostileTakeover555]

They have BPD = Very Believable; They have DID = Umm no

[@ManiekM115]

No trigger warnings?? My wolverine and fire ant alters are now traumatized!! Now my werewolf is awakend rraaawr 😂

[@codexmachina1358]

CAMDEN NOOOOOOOOOO

[@IAMtwoLAND]

my cat and dog alters are fighting like .... cats and dogs bork bork

[@llcdrdndgrbd]

Fire ant should defend themselves sorry you got a shit system bud

[@RS-fy9hb]

Your fucking rawr sent me reeling xD.

[@rawumber6740]

Why do these people give away ammo to bully them. These people will literally try to create their own made up slur. I’ll at least be happy to use that more then their preferred pronouns.

[@crispeggies]

im so ready for youtubers to start ripping into these DID grifters

[@Anunkindnessofravans]

There needs to be more channels calling it out

[@neontwilightmusic]

About to roast @AcrylicandAether.

[@Wysaw]

Next will be the OF alter who conveniently only appears in the 'appropriate' settings

[@glawenclattuc3127]

If the money starts to dry up 😂

[@jameshansen1148]

"A vampire alter may arise from being denied food by an abuser. A ghost alter may develop if you feel dead from a near death trauma. A child altar... a protector... a ...[etc to infinity...]" I personally have one of each of these of course!

[@glawenclattuc3127]

Gotta catch ‘em all to be a DID-Master! I’m battling the elite four but they keep killing my vampire alter with solar beam.

[@tylerbaron6973]

this’ll kill some time at work

[@kittikhat]

hell yeah same here vro

[@ataridc]

Get to work, kid

[@damedusa5107]

God. I wish I had a job where I could watch videos all day

[@PrincessTidge]

Amen

[@damedusa5107]

@@Sue_Me_Too yes, how can I watch videos when I’m working. Most jobs aren’t able to watch videos. How is that a surprise to you?

[@Lawpering]

My alternate has an alternate that pretends to be me. It sucks and I'm always confused.

[@destinsuggs5265]

I played Raid Shadow Legends after watching Chud’s stream and now I have a Gambling addict alter.

[@lordcorporal4247]

Doctor: “reasons why these people may fake this condition online could be due to lack of emotional regulation and usually they don’t experience real trauma.” Online did people: “you ruined our lives with your educational lecture how dare you harm us and cause this trauma!”

[@karmic5783]

TikTok has ruined us

[@satiricgames2129]

Yup

[@brianmurphy250]

I still say it’s a Chinese plot to fuck up western civ. And steal data. Chinese Tik Tok is academic videos…not this looney tunes gay stuff

[@Plushiecandie]

I love how these ppl faking DID claim they’re being opressed, when all their videos are still up, even their hate content. Yet a video mildly criticizing them is mass reported off yt.

[@N.i.E.M.O]

If these people couldn't accuse everyone else of being a bigot, there would be no point in it at all. They offer nothing of value to society so they feel they need some other way to feel 'special' and 'superior' (ironically by identifying as a so-called 'oppressed minority'). The Oppression Olympics are still going strong.

[@ianrusttattoos]

People keep saying she "bought/buy/got a cake". No, they don't have DID cakes in the case to grab at your leisure. She ORDERED a CUSTOM cake, something one does AHEAD of time, and picked it up on the way home.

[@AlbinoWhiteGuy]

So the only difference between her and the he/him is he wears a jacket 😂 Also, I would bet money she has zero trauma in her past. Probably grew up just fine.

[@e.c.winner7252]

Her mom asked her to do the dishes before bed one time. TRAUMA

[@fowof]

You willing to say that to her faces? I got your back holmes, just mail me the plane ticket en we’ll go to the looney bin together

[@f1shze4lot]

DSP vest alter

[@N.i.E.M.O]

Why is it that most of these KZbin/Tiktok 'DiD' shills almost always come from wealthy privelaged backgrounds and probably never had to work a job in their life (and likely never will)? Clearly these people must have suffered more trauma than anyone else. /s Or maybe they want to get in on the 'oppressed minority' Oppression Olympics and so they'll come up with anything to feel special and deflect any and all criticism because anyone who does is a 'bigot'.

[@Jess.Anderson]

I watched Pixilocks before she started posting DID content. (Before that, she just posted about her cutesy maxilmist asthetics and fashion) When she first started posting about DID, she said she was a big dissociadid fan and wished she had DID too, and then she got diagnosed with it herself. which sounded sus to me, but she was saying that some part of her knew she had it and that's why she was drawn to the content. I've always thought that both these channels are not people who actually have DID, but clearly they must have some other mental issues... So I don't think it's right to send them hate.

[@Segphalt]

No one should send them hate but it's fine to laugh at anyone with MASD (Massive attention seeking delusions) from a distance. Don't touch the poo.

[@ghxstzxne6686]

NO SAME I watched her for YEARS then all of a sudden she's pretending to have did and I dipped fast asf and unsubbed sad and weird of her fr these ppl want to be traumatised so bad

[@AvalancheReviews]

I'd love to go back in time to a point where I didn't know about these people.

[@N.i.E.M.O]

I'm afraid it'll only get worse. The future is scarier than any horror game either of us have ever played.

[@glawenclattuc3127]

Fun story: there once was a Tumblr weirdo who self-diagnosed the self with DID and one of their ‘alters’ was Makiplier and they would harass the real Markiplier. It was hilarious to observe.

[@melancholy9303]

does each alter have its own quirky outfit and style? how does that work if a switch happens in public?

[@glawenclattuc3127]

They all have their own makeup style too. Except the ‘boy’ alter where she just wears a hoody and no makeup.

[@N.i.E.M.O]

Think Clark Kent / Superman.

[@Kat957]

I read up a lot on DID roughly 10 years ago because I knew two people who claimed to have it and gave their alters like "cute" anime names and shit. One of the most important factors of *ACTUAL* DID is that the alters aren't aware of each other. They can be made aware through therapy, that's one of the goals in fact, but before that they almost can't be aware of each other. That's one of many things that makes me get so irrationally angry at these kids who claim to be "undiagnosed systems", how the fuck could you know without a diagnosis? The people who have DID usually find out because they start complaining about memory loss and blackouts or there is some incident. For example one story I remember was a woman I think in her 30s who didn't remember having any blackouts or anything prior but one day while driving a box truck for work she suddenly switched to "the child" alter (one of the big 3 that exist in almost every case, the child is perpetually around age 6-7 and it's the personality before the brain fragmented, often considered to be the "real" personality), which obviously didn't know how to drive and crashed. These alters will have different ages, different names, different ways of speaking, different ways of walking, different beliefs, different levels of knowledge on things, etc. So the idea that this girl has 7 alters (which to be fair is the exact average amount) and more than one of them likes doing KZbin videos about DID is pretty unlikely. This unfortunately isn't new, from what I gathered from the people I knew who were claiming it back then it seemed to come out of the side of the goth community that was super cringe and obsessed with anime.

[@Segphalt]

She only has 7 because she has been DBZ fusioning them along the way. Gotta fusion some together because having 30 would be too sus.

[@bulloran1965]

This person is so dangerous and is the most clear cut example of social contagion theory ive ever seen.

[@timleobmusic3401]

You know what feelings I had when I was told I had OCD and Aspergers? It was one of "a thousand piece jigsaw finally falls into place"

[@satiricgames2129]

Same with me and depression , got diagnosed very young but I didn't get much help early enough but it help me on a personal level.

[@HunterBidensHandgun]

Literally. It's like a puzzle piece clicks and I didn't have to wonder why I was such a freaking weirdo anymore.

[@x-xPhobia]

What I have found with people faking DID is they do have some form of disassociative disorder, however they want the SPECIAL one. They one the CUTTING EDGE one and its abhorrent. Sometimes I wake up and the entire world feels like its behind 20 panes of bulletproof glass. Im so far from things but uncomfortably close. "I" for me is a very confusing amorphous concept. I don't have DID. I suppose itd be fun to play pretend for a bit, but my disassociative disorder is too busy ruining my interpersonal relationships for me to have fun like that I guess.

[@alicetoyou448]

I worked in an emergency psychiatric hospital for five years. *I saw everything, everything under the sun…except a case of DID.* There were under five people probably that said a psychiatrist had diagnosed it in the past, but they showed no symptoms and answered to their own name and demographic info despite being in an emergency. They were admitted there for depression or under another diagnosis. Take that for what you will. It’s a heavily debated topic as you said. I tend to believe that specific DID symptoms must be incredibly rare & are from complex ptsd vs a stand-alone disorder, but that’s just one person’s opinion. I do not believe anyone on social media who purports to have it, and some of the people who do so appear to be straight up insulting to people with real mental health issues.

[@tarman69]

I dated a Girl that claimed to have it , I Ignored the red flags of course lol but she got into this weird online cult with other people that claimed they had it and they all enabled each other. I was under the impression that it can manifest and the person can really believe that its real. Might have started out as attention seeking behavior but after a few years I think she believed it herself. But that could be a few other problems stacked together lol

[@alicetoyou448]

@@tarman69 that sounds rough because you also don’t want to invalidate them and end up fighting about it. I wish there wasn’t so much misinformation out there.

[@cococock2418]

glad someone pointed this out, DID is a completely fake and made up disorder. It's just a cool and quirky condition for liberal women and LGBT people to claim they have. There is ZERO such disorder in which one can on demand in front of a camera "change alters".

[@swearingpriest98]

​@@alicetoyou448invalidate everyone you meet.

[@Anne_Onymous]

I'm a nurse and I've seen one case of "DID" throughout my career, whom was 16 years old so yeah lol. Anyhow, I used to think it was all complete BS... Then I saw a video of a woman where the woman was blind (nystagmus and all) but the alter could see. Blew my mind! Not sure if you've seen it but I definitely recommend so if you haven't! That being said, the amount of faking going on is beyond obvious.

[@chilibeer3912]

I only have one alter who is a slightly more fun version of my primary self but he only comes out when I drink. He is also a slightly worse driver as well which is weird I guess.

[@daniloperez1271]

What's interesting as a psychologist student is how the DSM 5 try to be more rigid and clear of the definition of mental issues was meet with huge opposition

[@BasedPoliwhirl]

It is truly astounding that a busy psychiatrist did not do the bare minimum of researching her KZbin drama response video in the course of his medical research.

[@andylofi4448]

The main thing about this so called disorder always was that the patient isn’t aware of the condition… oc all of that shit was dismissed as completely made up in the 70s/80s already. It was only a matter of time till someone tried this bs again in the age of social media. This „condition“ only ever was used by people to get out of criminal convictions etc. Of course someone had to do a sequel to make money out of it. She at least is very imaginative. Kudos.

[@ataridc]

It hurts the credibility of psychology imo that it is so difficult to find answers to how real this condition actually is. We all know these clownish folks doing their little circus sideshow on tiktok aren't real but I dont know what this condition actually looks like and all the doctors have to speak in this tone as to not offend anyone.

[@andylofi4448]

@@ataridc Credibility in psychology is on a downward trend thx to social media for sure. I mean… cmon it’s the retardation olympics out there. 😂

[@e.c.winner7252]

The number of previously-nonviolent people who are prescribed psychiatric medication and then go on to k|ll other people and/or themselves makes me question the whole profession of psychiatry. And therapy is just a leftist grift to brainwash people while taking their money. It’s all horsesht.

[@alicetoyou448]

@@ataridcin my personal opinion, of the psychiatrists that pushed awareness of this condition in the late 70s - 80s, each of them has serious credibility problems. I worked in an emergency psych hospital evaluating admissions for five years and did not see a single case of DID.

[@alicetoyou448]

Yes yes yes

[@SuburbaniteUrbanite]

I used to be in a relationship with a person that claimed to have DID/Tulpas, which after the fact I know were all bullshit to get sympathy and money, but at the time it really is used as a manipulative pawn for these people to get sympathy and love.

[@lucifer-ic9th]

Please explain, in what capacity did she said she had tulpas ? 😂

[@scarletsletter4466]

😂 PLEASE tell us more about this “tulpamancer” you dated. Tulpas are a concept originating in Tibetan Buddhism, materialized beings or thought-forms created through spiritual practice. They can take on any form or appearance and are able to interact with the physical world. Modern practitioners call themselves "tulpamancers" and consider tulpas to be a type of willed imaginary friend which practitioners consider to be sentient and relatively independent.

[@glawenclattuc3127]

@@scarletsletter4466You forgot that Tulpas were featured in both X-Files and Supernatural.

[@theecosmetaverse]

To everyone who is mocking DID. (Not the fake disorder cringe TikTok , the real one) You are all very lucky for not experiencing this disorder. It's an absolute struggle.

[@Porceliankitty]

I have misaphonia and I’m not happy about it or proud of it. I’m ashamed of it but I accept it and deal with it with behavior therapy… I’m not gonna make a cake about something that makes me suffer.

[@Toastie19]

I do wonder if she actually believes in all the shit she’s saying. Has she convinced herself that she actually has DID? Or is it purely a conscious lie?

[@nocturnal_illusion]

Jill(Pixielocks) has, at most, BPD.. but because BPD isn't "uwu kawaii" and as socially accepted, she's created her own narrative and list of other mental disorders and glosses over the BPD claiming to have "healed" from it through therapy, despite her every move still screaming BPD behaviour.

[@HunterBidensHandgun]

People with BPD often seem to believe that their problems come from anything and everything other than the BPD. It's such a confusing and destructive disorder

[@Froggy_Bomb]

"YOU are SIGNIFICANTLY more mentally ill than all the others!! You're getting LABOTOMIZED!" 😂😂😂

[@philip_hofmaenner47]

Dissociation is very common in NPD and BPD. I'm almost certain that many people claiming to have DID on TikTok and KZbin are actually Cluster B folks. I'm very skeptical of DID, and even if it exists, it is probably extremely rare and not common enough to become this popular cultural thing....

[@glawenclattuc3127]

Have you ruled out munchausen’s stndrome?

[@philip_hofmaenner47]

@@glawenclattuc3127 There's probably a great overlap in the attention-seeking behaviors of Cluster B personality disorders and the deceptive behaviors seen in Munchausen Syndrome. People who have Munchhausen Syndrom probably have a personality disorder that make them behave like that...

[@basedcentrist3056]

These tik tok DIDers are just budding narcissists

[@e.c.winner7252]

Budding? Full-blown more like

[@basedcentrist3056]

@@e.c.winner7252 I was being generous haha

[@treatbag]

I feel like most of them are on their way to straight up developing Munchhausen if they don’t already have it

[@N.i.E.M.O]

Narcissism is becoming more and more widespread in society. First it was 'trans', then it was 'nonbinary' and neo-pronouns, and they needed to find a way to one-up that insanity, so here we are. It'll only get worse.

[@NightKnocker316]

Me when two of my alters in my headspace get divorced and I have to try to mediate the divorce settlement (I’m the Ace Attorney alter)

[@nicoliony]

If the cake girl ACTUALLY had DID she would be relieved that the presenter thought she didn't have it. He points out that real DID patients react positively to the idea they DONT have it 😂

[@N.i.E.M.O]

But these people want to have DID so they can feel special

[@chiax8776]

Imagine going on the internet and making this kind of fool of yourself.

[@StillWeRide]

its insane. id die from embarassment at night. shes making MONEY too

[@MrJpc1234]

55.05 This here is the problem we get when we allow people to expand the defenition of trauma p[eople can now medicalise everything in their lives when the slightest pressure or conflict is recast as trauma

[@NamelessPhantom]

I blame that gay m night shyamalan movie for this

[@glawenclattuc3127]

Also Crazy Jane in DoomPatrol. And also the Pixar movie Inside out.

[@LizStaples]

Audience for this is teen and preteen girls that’s who the content is for. It comes up every decade this pretend play but wrapped up in therapy speak to make it seem valid and substantial and not just a kind of play. Pretend and imagination are healthy normal things, but instead of aiming these types of girls to D&D or creative writing they get tangles up into a Pseudoscience (it is a flavor of dream analysis in truth) While they adopt the language of DSM, it has nothing to do with actual DID which is people with severe trauma who basically have triggers that cause them to fall into dissociative black out, where a survival mindset acts without a persons full awareness. The DID label got adopted by larping types as early as the 1990s and it comes back around regularly.

[@exploringim6191]

As someone with DID seeing this kind of content is really hurtful. My dissociative identity disorder is polyfragmented and fairly extreme, and my communication with alters is very low. I live on disability pension. I'm a pretty good "by the book" example of someone who does not cope with this disorder. I don't leave the house on my own, my memory is extremely bad and choppy. I've been in therapy for 2 years now. They say it takes 5 years for people like me to be able to manage our disorder and live semi normally in society. Sometimes (for bad cases like mine) it may take longer. Maybe even ten years. Idk. But the thing about systems on KZbin is that they have lower alter counts. They have alters who front who act differently and uniquely in their own way. And that - for a person with DID - is so comforting and relatable to see. Instead of seeing people tearing down the only creators I find relatable, I wish they would put together the dots. If you go through Pixielocks' videos, even from the past, you can SEE the different alters and their mannerisms show. I can understand why you don't trust DissociaDID. But I rest assured with the fact that her information is very logical. She does seem to have alters, I don't think she is faking that. I think she has an agenda to help normalise DID, and so she presents more than most would. I wouldn't want my alters on Anthony Pedeia's show, I wouldn't feel comfortable watching it back, but I don't think I'd feel comfortable leaving the littles talk in. But if I wanted to normalise DID, I would. I think these people are doing the hard work to help people with my dissorder be accomodated in society. Embracing these more different aesthetics and lifestyles is part of people feeling comfortable in themselves. As a person with DID, it is hard to know what we like to wear and what we want to do. Sometimes our style gets extreme, but if that makes us comfortable, we'll go with it. I think age regression content should also become more mainstream. Because if a little takes the front out of nowhere, it would be nice to have help. A lot of autistic stims and anxiety hacks help with the cptsd too. That's what would help me. Not seeing people yell at some of the only and loudest and most comfortable seeming DID systems I know - real systems, you can see they are by looking at their symptoms. I wish you could talk about and share things that make my life better instead. This doesn't help me.

[@chilibeer3912]

I can see where you are coming from but there truly is an epidemic of people who are faking it and these large creators are influencing them as well as giving them a playbook for how to fake it.

[@exploringim6191]

@@chilibeer3912 So, you're fake claiming people who say they have this disorder. And you're saying people who live and show their truth in a capacity that might normalise the disorder and help increase the quality of life with those with the disorder should stop so the fake claiming will stop? Because if nobody knows what DID is then nobody will pretend to have it? I hate to tell you this but that is the opposite of what actual people with DID need to happen. The more people hide this disorder, the more likely misinformation is to spread. And we'll go back to every person expecting other peoples alter switches will lead to risks to their life - where angry alters will emerge from the dark and try to kill them and their families. I suggest that we need to actually be more accepting. The people who are usually called out for "faking DID" are teenagers. Sometimes people have to try out a label and an idea to see if it fits them. Beyond an overlap in shared symptoms between DID and many other mental health disorders, it's just common decency to respect a person, to listen to their truth, and respect what they're going through. If someone is faking, they have to realise themselves that it is wrong - cruel words, advise from others, info and resources might not even scratch the surface - they have to realise that themselves. Fake claiming doesn't help anything. DID is a complex disorder in which each presentation is unique. Whatever symptoms people claim are fake or not, and whatever you see that you think is fake, doesn't matter. At the end of the day, if someone is faking, they need an environment where they feel safe enough to talk about it, to confess, and to go back to a normal life, or forward to something better for themselves. At the end of the day, you should wait for them. If they are faking, they feel comfortable to tell you about it. That's when you bring up what you saw that didn't align with what you understand about DID (and only if they ask for it) It shouldn't be seen as winning to get people to stop fake claiming. It should be seen as those realising they don't have DID achieving personal growth. Since many DID systems actually experience memory loss it is common for systems to believe they are faking their disorder, even if they have evidence of it, even if they are diagnosed, day-to-day real DID systems question the validity of their disorder. One day they'll say they think they were faking, and a week later they'll look back and realise they were experiencing something rough and traumatic at the time and were coping by reneging on everything. If actually DID systems think they are fake and are encouraged to stop identifying, that's when it becomes dangerous for them. Because if someone with DID leaves therapy and stops getting help and tries to live without DID, it becomes a major risk to their mental health. And it reinforces that ignoring the problem that caused the behaviour is wrong. It's like denying the correlation of a panic response and a trigger that makes it. The question everyone should ask if someone claims to have DID and then claims they were faking it, is "why?". If the answer is "an excuse to try different aesthetics", cool. If that's all it is, that's fine. If they have a following, they can let that audience know that they were faking symptoms and they aren't a valid source of DID information, and that they're trying something else. If the person says they were faking DID for attention or clout, then something else is wrong. Either their support group is lacking, or they still have something else going on. They don't need people documenting how fake they were. They need people highlighting better resources, or where else they should go for better information and support. A lot of mental health disorders have strong correlation to childhood trauma. A lot of DID symptoms relate to how one copes with trauma. Loosing time, being desperate to be heard and appreciated, being scared of being left behind and looked at by nobody. Being scared of being forced to deal with everything alone, without the help and resources they need to cope. DID is a disorder with legitimacy and because of influencers and normalisation, there are accessible resources for people who need help to get the help they desperately need. I can see why people who need help and are scared of backlash might find DID a solution to get from struggling to coping (point a to point b). Beyond that, if you have all the symptoms of DID but don't have alters, that's the equivalent of a CPTSD diagnosis. You can look that up. People don't fake disorders for a reason. People who are in pain need to express it in someway, and without the support they require, they'll do it in ways that aren't safe or healthy for them. Fake claiming for DID should probably be giving the same severity and treatment as is done to people who suffer with sh or s*icidal tendencies. People say such behaviours are a cry for help. Faking DID is a cry for help too. Don't ask DID influencers to stop sharing their story. Support people struggling with identity issues. Support people struggling with symptoms of trauma and anxiety disorders. Help people without a diagnosis, a label, or a reason, get the support they need to function in society. DID is the best example of a well known invisible disorder where disability supports many would get bullied and abused for using are treated as serious and valid coping mechanisms. From physical disability aids, to fidgets, anxiety exercises, and even age regression, people with DID are accepted for using these stigmatised coping mechanisms, even publicly. If someone who claims to have DID finds these coping mechanisms helpful, it makes sense they might claim to have DID. They shouldn't have to feel like such coping mechanisms - which largely improve their quality of life - will become inaccessible just because they admit to not having DID. If that is the alternative, I can see why so many people would deny fake claiming even if they agreed with people's claims and couldn't ignore the evidence. DID systems and plural people in general have claimed the term "the future is plural" for this exact reason. They advocate for a future where it isn't seen as bad or wrong for people to use the coping mechanisms that DID and other systems may need to. A society where all peoples coping mechanisms are accommodated for, where all peoples issues are seen as valid (as long as they are safe and healthy) At the end of the day, here's an example of what I'm getting at. Would you rather someone purge their stomach of food (have an eating disorder) or practice age regression (dressing like a child and doing calming kid activities)? These are the two options. Would you prefer a person using safe coping mechanisms, or ones that do actual damage and are dangerous to their health and life. If you want DID influencers to stop telling their story and fake claimed systems to go back to being normal, you're picking the latter option. People shouldn't be fake claimed for searching for the right options and healthy coping mechanisms to help them. Like, "stop it". The fake systems need help. Let them get help. Whether or not they stick with the DID label, support them. It's all you can and gotta do. It's the right thing to do. Make coping mechanisms that are healthy and safe available for everyone. Destroy the stigma around all safe and healthy coping mechanisms. Make healthy coping mechanisms healthy for all, whether they have a specific need or disorder dictating they use them, or not.

[@exploringim6191]

@@chilibeer3912 If you want to stop people from fake claiming, the best way to do it would be to promote healthy alternatives. Don't stop people talking about DID, but start talking about the stand alone DID symptoms and how they can either be healthy alternatives (like age regression can be) or how they can find better coping mechanisms (eg, how switching could be mistaken for a silent panic attack, a hidden autism meltdown, a period of dissociation, and many other things. How to notice the difference and how to help with each individually). If you have any questions or ideas, feel free to add them. We can start a discussion down bellow.

[@MrUbister]

The two most interesting things from this to me were: 1. Anger with Imitative vs Relief with Genuine, when being told you DON'T have DID. 2. Acknowledgment that trauma can still lead to imitative DID, it is not invalidating trauma. For the second one however, the worst part is it's like peeling an onion. the girl at 2:05:00 says "Even if it's imitative, it can stil be part of a healing process". That's all well and good, as long as they embrace help from professional and would let go of their ego which they welded together with "having DID". The Harvard doctor AGREED with this, like he said, "people can lead to imitative DID because they are already creative people and it could 'help' in other ways like deflecting social responsibility to alters. The most important thing imo is dialogue and the only thing we should all agree on is that trying to dismantle the dialogue is always destructive. Whether it's DissociaDID deleting any comment that questions her, or a whole group of people going after a Hospital because it made a video about imitative DID.

[@SnakeyLeaf]

I think Big Greg took over Chud for this video

[@glawenclattuc3127]

BIG GREG NOOOOOOOOOOO!

[@snapthatsmilesbacc]

As a wise man once said "My mommy took my iPad away so I gained Pinkie Pie as an alter."

[@jameshansen1148]

"If you would like some suggestions as to why you may have developed your specific alters we have this resource..." "...[covers mic] so that other people faking this mental illness have more believable stories so I'm less sus."

[@WateredPlants420]

After enduring this video can I have a lobotomy on the house?? I'll pretend to be a spooky scary skeleton just please take away these memories.

[@chilibeer3912]

I’m not a doctor but I’ll give it a go

[@WateredPlants420]

@@chilibeer3912 PLEASE

[@cassandra2456]

Soren is the brand of my bed linen

[@glawenclattuc3127]

Soreen is a brand of malt loaf.

[@TehCredibleHulk]

You should re-upload this video and see if it gets removed.

[@nightpotato]

This is one of the few ChudLogic videos which i come back periodically and watch again and again. It is just so weird and fascinating. I also watched this once while under the influence of magic mushrooms and had a hysterical laughing fit which immobilized me.

[@prettycringey]

oh god, the DissociaDID war flash backs of 2020 hit all at once.

[@thefudgejudge6962]

LOL THAT ONE DUDE OUTED HIMSELF BY BEING SUPER GAY AND BEING ATTRACTED TO THAT HOT HE/HIM

[@kennythawsh]

It’s like life has become so easy and mundane for them their brain can’t take the bed blobbing anymore so it starts conjuring up issues out of boredom

[@GeoNeilUK]

But Chud, DID is a real thing. It wasn't Alex Emslie that abused Alice, it was his vampire werewolf alter called Camdan. And Alice never truly left Alex, that was her leviathan alter stealing Alex's one true love away from him!

[@nightsaus]

So much wealth is on the other side of shame but i just cant bring myself to cross the threshold 😂

[@glawenclattuc3127]

Also I’m surprised that her weirdo audience are okay with her culturally appropriating sitar music for her opening…

[@DocInABox]

The person who said "having a disorder doesn't make you an expert in it" rly hit the nail. I have physical illnesses and went to college and got a doctorate in pharmacy so I could understand wth was going on and find a way to save my own life. I do NOT have a friggin internet presence telling ppl "I have so much advice and am a total expert uwu". That little subtext on their intro "mental health education" is so prententious. Their 'system' is neither a medical professional OR an educator. Even with my mundane ass physical shit, I find people who also have it just spreading lies and misinformation cuz they have it and are 'experts' 🙄

[@Violetrueblue]

I blame a lot of this nonsense on their therapists too. It's dangerous and unhealthy to put secular traits on the fragmented parts of your brain where your brain stores your memories. The memory loss comes from not being able to autonomously access those fragments like normal people do to access memories so the goal to be healthy is to learn how to integrate and have access even if you have to tell your brain to do it manually or make an effort to send them neurons around your brain

[@CoperliteConsumer]

Every fickle mood I have is a personality! -zoomer girls without daddys

[@holloway_one]

It's just like the losers who claim to have Schizophrenia, Depression, Anxiety, or any other mental illness. Just attention seeking children, like you said.

[@CPSPD]

"zoomer girls without daddys" i volunteer, gonna message the woman in the video.

[@rawumber6740]

I would love to see these people go into a doctors office and explain this to them.

[@lukeanderson3806]

Do you think if Soren switches to a she her there is a transition process where the gock gets small and a fanny grows ?

[@glawenclattuc3127]

The Gock is in her head.

[@hydraflare4722]

I think I might have a Chudlogic alter. I often black out and come to my senses hours later going down on some gock.

[@ellis7622]

Ah, the chaser alter. That’s a common one as I understand it.

[@daytwaqua]

I'll believe tulpas are real before I believe this girl genuinely has DID, and there's no way I'm believing in tulpas. I will give her this, while she's making it all up, she has created quite a bit of lore around all this nonsense.

[@HostileTakeover555]

Oh I love the doctor! Finally someone calling them out and exposing them.

[@rachaelvaughan1017]

My step dad studied psychology and has definitely had patients with multiple personalities (he explained it as someones driving a bus and the alters are on the bus in the back seats and there's the main person and something will trigger an alter and then that person takes over and the main person takes a seat in the back of the bus). It's definitely not the same as a kid playing pretend which is what it soulds like a lot of these situations are.

[@Jehcbit]

is it possible for one of your alters to be a chaser? cuz i keep waking up in trans girls beds with no memory of how i got there

[@glawenclattuc3127]

Did you know they can test you for GHB?

[@chilibeer3912]

Yeah man I think that’s what happened

[@beetlejoose5434]

when i had a breakdown and was in the psych ward im like 90% sure my roommate was faking having DID. She got really fixated on me having an NG feeding tube and stopped eating after i told her why i had it and refused food until she was prescribed one. It was like she wanted to be seen as sick i guess. Shed bring up her other selves to me unprompted and it was very odd. She also watched me sleep but thats unrelated i think.

[@EllsCampbell]

I'm gonna give this a 10% likelihood of getting taken down.

[@EllsCampbell]

Oh....the marriage announcement was yesterday? Those odds just went up to 50-50

[@mcnultyssobercompanion6372]

This doctor's presentation is brilliant, his empathetic concern for the threat Tik Tok poses to his patients is sincere, and that makes it all the more tragic that venal hustlers like "diassociaDID" (a username worse than mine, no easy feet) are persecuting him. "DisassociaDID" is a despicable liar and I support this doctor in his goal to expose her as the fraud she is.

[@raven_heart4you]

As a child i experienced extraordinary trauma... I have earliest memories at age 3... I have blocked things but they can be "triggered" out of no where... But they come on with extreme panic attacks... I can believe a childs brain could create an "Inner world" to feel safe... Bc i used to do it. But i always knew when i went back home it was over ... And i coulsnt escape it. My great gma used to say i grew up to fast and never got to really be a child... I cant take this person seriously after knowing a little more abt her back story... My brain wouldnt let me retreate and "front" with another "personality" bc reality was so real and in my brain i had to protect my younger siblings. Idk i cant stand these ppl who think it's cool or quirky to have mental health issues... Its called trauma bc it is traumatic. It hurts to remember things, the guilt, everything that comes with it isn't fun or pretty. There is nothing fun... Smh

[@skreem6343]

"omg just trust le heckung sciuns!!" "NOOOOOOOOOOO NOT DAT SEYEUNS!!!!!11"

[@R0TTENPILE]

Bro, I laughed at first and more and more, I got legit annoyed by these ass hats. I have BPD, and not only am I diagnosed by a license physician, but I can see how DID can be a thing but not like this. I can't regulate my emotions, so what happens is that I can't help how I feel at times, and it can be overwhelming. It does cause identity issues in a way with me on how im suppose to feel, act, process things and how to live day by day. For a long time Ive oprated on auto pilot so much that alot of times i didnt feel like myself and there was times i didnt who myself was suppose to be. I can tell not getting the help you need and not being able to process the trauma you've been through that your brain creates a defense mechanism. This shit can be overwhelming, and it legit made me an addict, alcoholic and overall chaotic person. I had a severely abusive childhood and it wasn't normal from the start and I died when I was born for 5 minutes and was a month overdue so from the start I already had a brain irregularly from the start and add in the severe mental,physical and SA abuse then you have a recipe of disaster. F these people seriously. When I was diagnosed I didn't want to make a damn cake. I wanted to research more and to understand this disorder was difficult, and i still abused substances . It took a long time,hard work, and help to be on the right path. I honestly don't know how I can still function and be well and healthy for the number of years and how much substance ive abused.,

[@Yor_gamma_ix_bae]

I tried googling this stuff and it’s all pretty much exactly what she’s talking about. Makes me distrust psychology even more.

[@brokendeck08]

Hey now! Shes hot a point! I too had an episode where I thought I was dead but still walking yhe earth. Except I was smoking fentynal and snorting methamphetimine....Im sure thats totally unrelated to.

[@AverageSchizoPoster]

Happens to the best of us bud… probably completely unrelated

[@mrpxssy]

I have a follower on twitter whose "alter" is literally one of my friends, a popular gaming youtuber. they pretend they live where he lives and everything. I haven't told him about my discovery because I think he would be very disturbed lol

[@glawenclattuc3127]

The same thing happened to Makiplier years ago.

[@anthraxcrab2222]

My mom has bi-polar and schizophrenia, people who pretend to have devastating mental illnesses for profit are despicable. Please relocate to Gaza.

[@Aaron-zu3xn]

The change is not visible when that part of me that is a psychopath cre ated when my father tortured me only comes out in situations where I feel like my life depends on it and you'd never even know it just seems like something that the nice guy would never do. You really have to know someone's small details and patterns to even think I'm acting different and even then you're not sure.

[@mudkipzdoll]

These chicks have crafted a whole D&D campaign in their heads

[@skwoogle]

Oh God pixie is Canadian, we do not claim her

[@chilibeer3912]

I thought you had to celebrate every single person from your country?

[@unresponsive_ai6539]

Realise I'm late here, but this just feels like people adopting this as a creative outlet since Hollywood has gone to shit with oversaturated market of actors and creative types.. Give them a budget and these people will make a phenomenal movie script

[@mcnultyssobercompanion6372]

It's very unsettling to me how these people refer to themselves as "systems". It's actually quite dehumanizing. _You're not_ a "system". No one is a "system". You're a human being.

[@glawenclattuc3127]

Did not realise Chud was a year older than me 😂

[@user-et6xw6fu1q]

alright, weird question I guess, but...where are these peoples' parents? I don't know how old these DID grifters are but like, even if they're grown, surely they have friends and/or family who are extremely embarrassed and concerned by their behavior? there is literally no one in their lives who are taking them aside and having a frank discussion with them like, hey bud, you're bringing shame to the family name by pretending to be a vampire on tiktok. Maybe I'm just naive.

[@ellis7622]

I mean we saw that one clip in this video where the father is asking the daughter questions so he can guess which persona she’s acting as in that moment so clearly at least some of them have parents that support this madness. I’m guessing they don’t know any better and assume it’s legit and just want to support their child which is sweet but ultimately misguided.

[@ibot2157]

Ah well you see, you play ball or you're a bigot with a social media mob trying to ruin your life.

[@hope-cat4894]

If these Alters were real, how has no one sent her to a church for an exorcism? You can't just have demon and vampire Alters running around free. 👀 She should just sell her ideas for a movie at this point.

[@mrpxssy]

oh no..... I can feel myself shifting... oh NO..... CHESTER THE MOLESTER IS COMING OUT

[@kurtlee3198]

buying a cake means you were celebrating something

[@luthiencoffin]

I thought she was a faker. She gives off the biggest cloud of bullshit.

[@inybisinsulate]

It's good children these days accidentally falling up onto creating fake identities for self-satisfaction but then quickly clicking away since spinning face toilets have replaced bland information and tought them to not have thoughts in the first place. Perhaps necessary these days to not get compelled to become vampires or dogs when life is hard to them. This may become quite lethal to teenagers though already in doubt about identity, always has been, if this video is called upon them the maker might even be responsible for all of these thought out identities followed by spiraling out of control for simply having too much information about nonsense self-research.

[@addie1080]

Thank you chud, for bravely sharing your vampire alter at 1:42:42

[@glawenclattuc3127]

@ChudLogic have you seen the allegations of DisociaDID flirting with minors? I’ve been poking about browsing all the related drama.