The Darkest Football Iceberg #2

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The Darkest Football Iceberg #2
The Darkest Football Iceberg #2
The Darkest Football Iceberg #2

[@Vizeh]

What Stories Would You Like On Part 3?

[@NicolasTagliafico420]

Santos Laguna vs Monacras Morelia 2011, search it up

[@cfc_bence]

Idk if its unknown enough outside of Hungary but Miklós Fehér

[@stefandumitru7128]

2000 UEFA cup semi-final violence 💔

[@cyber-fm5642]

Los Maniceros Massacre 2009

[@loucoporgamez]

Serginho 2004, he pratically died on the pitch live on tv

[@coiiind5234]

The story of Barbosa has to be one of the most tragic things I’ve heard. He was blamed for something that he attempted to stop.

[@maameamoaki2279]

Ong😔

[@thoplo8772]

yea man it was saddest of all

[@mladjanstojanovic9124]

I want to give him a big ol' hug, he deserves it. Sadly, he died in 2000.

[@rayandinho978]

Fr

[@sergioeduardol.carneiro8198]

At some parts you could say It was racism involved. Despiste Brazil not being an historical racist country like the US, At the time its was easy to blame an Black player for a defeat. In the addition, at that time, brazilians were even more passionates about football than today

[@marcuslavaggi-bowen6539]

Robert Enke later had a daughter via adoption, so kept his depression quiet as he felt if it got out, the authorities would take her away from him and his wife. Really one of, if not the biggest tragedy in football to happen to an individual player.

[@Vizeh]

I saw that he adopted, but didn’t know that it played a factor like that, tragic

[@bezzer1562]

Absolute tragedy RIP Enke 🙏

[@tommycunningham239]

Worst thing to happen to a football player is get killed, this guy who played for one of these South Americans national team, I think Venezuela or Colombia, he accidentally scored an own goal leading for his team to be knocked out the World Cup. After the match, his manager warned him not to go to the city, but he ignored it and went to a pub. But after this, he was killed by some men with guns, every time the commentator said goal from his own goal, he was shot. But now I think their is a statue of him, and I think he is respected.

[@marcuslavaggi-bowen6539]

@@tommycunningham239 Andres Escobar his name was. Yet another football tragedy, couldn't believe it when I was watching the BBC News and it was mentioned for that first time. He was Colombian.

[@tommycunningham239]

@@marcuslavaggi-bowen6539 tbh I shouldn’t even be comparing them, they are both bad.

[@JakeBeattie2006]

Haven't watched yet but just want to say that these documentary style vids are class Liam, keep it up lad.

[@Vizeh]

Thank you bro!

[@kyleeasy1250]

Seconded

[@aidenbyun3034]

@@kyleeasy1250 Thirded

[@hyperxedits1394]

@@Vizeh love these to only person who does this I fell like

[@pjlh07]

@@aidenbyun3034 fourthed

[@brunosurrador2161]

As a Benfica fan, my father always told me the story about Enke when i was younger. I remember hjm cryjng when he heard about it. My dad always said that he was one of the best gks he ever saw at Benfica, after Bento and Preudhomme. Always makes me sad when i remember this story. P.S.: on a happier note. Could you make a video about the Benfica curse? The Bela Gutmann curse at Benfica. It is a really good story

[@SouLP196]

As a fan of Schalke and therefore always following Bundesliga, I saw him play every weekend with Hannover… This man alone was a threat for all strikers of Bundesliga, as he was so good. When I heard the news I was shocked… they showed his funeral at Hannover‘s stadium in TV…

[@lardlad12]

The Szűcs story hits home for me. Although I was born in Australia and see myself as Australian, my father was born in Hungary and his father was executed in a show trial in 1951 after speaking out against the communist regime

[@Vizeh]

Thats awful man, hope you’re well!

[@JTB_FM]

excited for a possible part three, football is a wild sport at times

[@Vizeh]

Definitely will be needed!

[@chriswoodtoarsenal]

Hey Liam- I'm a New Zealander and a Wellington Phoenix fan who grew up watching Andrew Durante, and I'd never heard of that incident. Thanks for the thorough research you put into your content, truly outstanding!

[@Vizeh]

All love to the Kiwis bro!🇳🇿

[@chriswoodtoarsenal]

@@Vizeh and to you too! I’m sure Chris wood has made you love our country even more 😂

[@sunsetwalker2923]

Same! I had season tickets almost every season and was a big fan of Andrew and even met him more than once and only found out about this incident after watching this video.

[@MrTechnodude4life]

Same bro, couldn’t believe I hadn’t heard that

[@Cortrakx3]

Hannover local here, trying to share some insight about his career. Robert Enke has had it really, really rough throughout the entirety of his football career as well. In multiple teams, especially in Barcelona and in Turkey, Enke has had a few difficult performances which lead to multiple teams lacking the trust in him to play him. Being made the Scapegoat for the respective clubs misfortunes on top of rough depressive episodes really isn't something light deal with. In Hannover, Enke became THE star of the show. He was given the confidence by the club, backed it with amazing performances and the fanbase loved him dearly. It was in Hannover as well where he truly began his national team career - with no less than men like Manuel Neuer, Tim Wiese and Jens Lehmann as his competitors. Enke beat them all out and was on the best way of getting himself a starting spot for the 2010 World Cup, before his depression got the better of him. Enke also revolutionised goalkeeping in a way that we see from ALL topclass GKs today: Watch a video of Robert Enke going into a 1v1 situation. The very specific way of sliding into the situation, making his body as big as possible while also making sure not to get the ball through his legs - he's the keeper who truly popularised this. Of course, fate happened to bring germany another GK to bring even bigger revolution, but Enke's effort can not be understated. One really haunting thing was later disclosed by Hannovers substitute goalkeeper Florian Fromlowitz. He was obviously attempting to compete with Enke but had no major shot. During the preparation for Hannover 96 v Hamburger SV, Enke personally went up to tell him that he shouldn't worry as he thinks that Fromlowitz will get more playing time than he thought was possible really soon. This 2-2 draw was happening two days before Enke passed away. To this day, Robert Enke is a legend here in Hannover, every single fan my age or older will immediately start being nostalgic and sad when he's mentioned and the street leading right to the northern entrance of the stadium is called the Robert-Enke-Straße in his memorial. Rest in Peace, Robert. ❤

[@mtkk5916]

As a Zambian, the story of our heroes really haunts me everyday. It hurts to talk about it honestly. R.I.P to our legends.

[@thegamingworld369]

FR man rip

[@guilhermefernandes4192]

After the 1950 World Cup, Barbosa became an idol playing for Vasco da Gama, nowadays his image is painted at the side of Sao Januario’s stadium. He is still loved by us, Vasco’s fans. Rest In Peace Barbosa.

[@cfc_bence]

As a hungarian I always knew the story of Szűcs I clearly remember my grandpa telling me that story when I was like 7 or 8 and it stays frightening as hell to me to this day. Like you said Liam he died because he fell in love and that was the only mistake he made... And the sad thing this is just surface of what the communist regime did during that time period in the history of the country... Great vid enjoyed it can't wait for a 3rd part if you'll make one

[@Vizeh]

It was an awful time in history, there’s so many dark stories in football from WW2

[@TommyRx]

Yeah that was just horrible to hear.

[@barbrakaunga6333]

As a Zambian... 1993 was a dark year for us and it still lives with us, our golden generation of players had fallen that day

[@VenomTNT]

First off amazing video. I just wanted to say that benfica still remembers Enke everyday on his birthday, as a memory to him and as a mental health awareness ocasion. I know this doesn't mean much, but at least I know he will never be forgotten by us, benfica fans.

[@Vizeh]

That’s fantastic to hear man❤️🇩🇪

[@TheCudder4life]

I remember playing South Africa 2010 on my Xbox360 and seeing Robert Enke as the starting GK for Germany but never saw him in the world cup games. Then I learned about his horrible tragedy, gut wrenching.

[@Romulo_santos]

Jogadores brasileiros no vídeo: 16:55 Goleiro "Barbosa" da seleção que perdeu a copa de 1950 para o Uruguai. 26:28 Goleiro Bruno. Não precisa de apresentações.

[@wwecraft1762]

loved the first one of these you done, you can really see how much you’ve grown as a youtuber and it’s incredible, keep pushing yourself to be better and better each day ❤

[@Vizeh]

Thank you for your kind words man

One of the craziest stories of Mexican second and first division (because it wasn’t called Liga MX and Ascenso MX until 2012) was in the promotion final between Leon and Irapuato in 2003, when drug dealers and others from the Mexican mafia occupied and closed Irapuato’s stadium to try and postpone (or make them forfeit) the 2º leg and people had to fight them to reopen the stadium for the match to happen If you want I can help you because most of the info on this is only in Spanish

[@kdsj88]

my dad told me about this lol

[@jackashley-price5822]

Loving the content Liam!! Gets constantly better, best football KZbinr out there!! For the next one, I’d recommend a little look at Flamengo vs Atletico Mineiro in 1981, the referee ridiculously sent off 5/6 players leading to the game being suspended and Flamengo winning the group. A really strange game that to my knowledge hasn’t been proven as fixed in any way?

[@SkippyThe31st]

Kabul Soccer Stadium was shown in the abyss but not talked about. Talk about it in the next iceberg.

[@VillaFanDan92]

Its crazy/tragic how similar the circumstances are between the Accra stadium disaster and the disaster that recently happened at the football stadium in Indonesia. A small proportion of fans cause trouble, the police respond by firing tear gas, innocent people are affected by the gas because gas doesn't know who to target, everyone runs to the exit, the emergency exits are blocked/locked - people die in a crush. It's sad that people in charge of policing football matches refuse to learn. Even after FIFA issued guidlines saying that police should never use tear gas within a stadium to tackle crowd trouble, it continued to happen.

[@Vizeh]

The police never learn man, it’s awful

[@Daixtey]

I am from Germany and the Robert Enke topic legit made me tear up again. Back then I was still in my teenager years but this thing impacted so many in football Germany I feel like. The Kicker the biggest like football reporting media in Germany spend a lot talking about mental health in sports at the time following his tragic passing, as well as did Germany's biggest sports shows, it did feel all bittersweet though since it took this passing to talk about it seriously.

[@notifyszn]

As a congolese person, I'm glad you covered the Zaire vs Brazil game

[@njc0672]

Hi Viz, been loving the content recently, as a united fan I would love a video on the story of George Best and his issues with alcohol and women. Also going into him finishing his career with a non league team in australia which many people arent aware of. Keep it up❤

[@johnfritz4052]

Amazing video as always mate; informative and interesting to watch. However, I couldn't help but notice that two stories listed on the title cards were missed in the explanations: Otávio Jordão da Silva Cantanhede: a 20 year old amateur brazilian referee, murdered after an altercation with another player. After issuing a red card and the player refusing to leave the field, a fight broke out, and after being punched Otavio drew a knife and stabbed the player (later succumbing to his injuries). When the crowd found out, including Otavio's family and friends, they stormed the pitch, stoning him to death before decapitating him and placing his head on the center circle on a stake. All over a young amateur game. Kabul Soccer Stadium: used by the Taliban for public executions and decapitatings, with the regime forcing packed stands to watch them harshly punish criminals by lining them up behind the penalty spot and forcing them to kneel under the goalposts before being punished at close range, with the results of which often hung on the goalposts. Locals say that few dare to go near the stadium at night because the spirit of the victims of this tragedy is said to still live there.

[@Vizeh]

Yeah I wanted to put those 2 stories in there but KZbin couldn’t let me put them in the video without it being demonetized, I’ve been trying for 2 days and this video form was the only way I had it out safe

[@anggitoabimanyu2134]

​@@Vizehyou also missed the Nyuki System vs Socozaki match

[@mranony4364]

Hey vizeh, another great video by you and as for the next iceberg video. I got some more stories that you should check up: Evald Mikson - Former Estonian national team goalkeeper in the 30s, was a collaborator during his time as deputy head of police in tallinn during german occupation of estonia. accused of committing crimes against local jews in ww2. He's also the father of two famous icelandic footballers, johannes and atli edvaldsson. Fabio Pocas - former portugese footballer who played at sporting lisbon's academy and later travelled to syria to join isis. Luzhniki accident, Patrik ekeng, the argentina peru game in 1978 world cup and abdul baset al-sarout.

[@SJ-kz2ii]

part 1 was my first encounter with ur channel and u gained a subscriber for it , keep iu up 👌

[@Vizeh]

Welcome aboard!

[@squeeboooooooooooooooooooooooo]

ok is the cadence of this guys speech driving anyone else crazy rn?

[@dietwater1042]

Vizeh is quickly turning into one of the best football youtubers on the platform

[@Vizeh]

Thank you!

[@rayandinho978]

Fr

[@Levitationable]

you HAVE to make a part 3, this series is godly

[@mikedocemrick9497]

You deserve more views and subs with this content mate, genuinely. Well done👏

[@Dinoo1234]

I like these football essays Liam. Love them and keep it up

[@Vizeh]

Thank you my friend!

[@townicus5908]

Rubbing my hands with glee to watch this! Loved Part 1 As for a suggestion for a future video, Survival Sunday at the end of the 2010-2011 Season, arguably the greatest final day at the bottom of the table in Premier League History, a video covering that in your style I think would be pretty excellent

[@Vizeh]

I was actually looking into that, weird haha thank you

[@townicus5908]

@@Vizeh Spooky! You're welcome, the Carlos Kaiser story is my absolute favourite in this video by the way, had no idea of it, I love it. On the other end of the spectrum the Villaplane story made my blood boil.

[@jimboslice1231]

Liam!! Another class video!! Really enjoy your content . Much love Liam

[@youtubenoob2743]

Niice! I really enjoyed the first one of these. This should be good! Keep up doing what you do. And what you want to do.

[@Vizeh]

Thanks! Will do!

[@heybroski2853]

Yessss thanks for making another one 🙏🙏

[@anderscrouse]

Very well done once again, you gotta make the football icebergs a series! There’s a lack of iceberg videos by bigger football channels and the 2 that you have made have been the best on KZbin in my opinion

[@mosalacommodore6993]

Haven't clicked on a video this fast in a minute. Loving these videos lately man. Please never stop, your quickly becoming one of my favorite KZbinrs, and definitely my favorite football KZbinr already.

[@Vizeh]

Very kind words man, thank you❤

[@fredericooo]

Quality as always mate, keep it up :)

[@Vizeh]

Much appreciated!

[@omarbumusa]

Love it!! Gets better everytime!!

[@rayandinho978]

Love these vids viz ❤

[@FiDi624]

Happy to see you bro 👊🏽 keep it coming

[@Vizeh]

More to come!

[@FiDi624]

@@Vizeh thank you 🙏🏽

[@SkippyThe31st]

For anybody wondering what happened in the Kabul Stadium: The Taliban hosted many executions in the stadium, and I'm pretty sure they did the same to soccer players that underperformed

[@Vizeh]

I spoke about it but I think because it mention the word Taliban KZbin demonetized the video every time, I couldn’t leave it in sadly

[@LondonLovesOlympics]

I always look forward to these videos now they're very interesting! Could you please add any stories about Jamaica/Carribean if you can, thank you🔥

[@Vizeh]

Sure thing mate!

[@jackmanley1473]

Excellent video, but I think you left out the section on the Kabul Sports Stadium in the abyss section - I think a number of fans are aware of the tragedies that transpired there, but it's still very important to cover.

[@djslavsui]

What happened in Kabul

[@infamouseldar]

Great video as always! However, i didnt see anything on Kabul Stadium. Was that missed in the final upload?

[@nadiainterF9]

Great video! Congrats!

[@qkomodo9098]

Ideas for a Part 3: Hakan Suker & Recep Erdogan Garricha post-football Greek Football post-Euros win Peter Clough snubbed by England Robert Hoyzer Mexican Chicken-Gate Incident Di Canio & Fascism K-League match Fixing in 2011 Ronaldo in Vegas 2009 Hatzipanagis forced to stay in Greece 1956 FA Cup Final & Bert's neck

[@Vizeh]

That’s a massive help, thank you!

[@qkomodo9098]

@@Vizeh No, thank you. I love the transition you've made with your channel and love how we both transitioned from Fifa Gameplay to learning the history of the beautiful game Another idea: Canada & El Salvador: the Worst Performing countries in World Cup History (Although with the expansion fir 2026, I hopefully see us not only qualify, but at least Draw🇸🇻🇸🇻🇸🇻🇸🇻)

[@Footballenthusiast.89]

Absolute class video mate. Loving them. Thank you for the effort for the longer videos .

[@Vizeh]

Thank you for your comment mate!

[@zakwilson6097]

Yes Liam loved the last iceberg video can't wait to watch this one 👍🔥

[@Vizeh]

Legend!

[@promer3668]

It isn't a known story, but the story of Israeli footballer Roni Calderon, who went from playing in clubs like Ajax and Feynoord (in the 70's!) to be a part of a mafia in Brazil. I heard the story some time ago and I found it very interesting, would be glad if you'd tell about it!

[@Konstrino]

Absolutely love these videos keep it up!

[@Vizeh]

Glad you like them!

[@Konstrino]

@@Vizeh I have an idea for the next iceberg.look at katidis of aek Athens,you'll like that topic

[@davecoutinho3123]

Been waiting on this ! ❤️

[@Vizeh]

Makes my day to hear that man!

[@davecoutinho3123]

Love the channel my man because a lot talk football , knowing not too much in truth love these kind of videos as well as your love for Burnley FC love to you and your family 🙏❤️

[@MohamedHussien29298]

Great video! keep these coming bro your doing great :)

[@Vizeh]

Thank you for being here man!

[@tishawngumbs1240]

These documentaries are worthy of watching over eating lunch or a great meal. Very insightful

[@Vizeh]

Thank you man!

[@DieHardFcb]

Been waiting forever for a part 2 vizeh❤️💙🐐

[@Vizeh]

Been a long time to make haha!

[@TechSupport900]

Part 2 this is gonna be brilliant

[@johnmcginnes26]

Superb video mate.

[@Cblackham17]

Class vid mate, Happy to see u enjoy making vids like these and I do to. Keep it up❤

[@Vizeh]

Glad you like them!

[@palerider7353]

I remember the story about Robert Enke. So sad 😞. Great video buddy. Also, loving the new content 👊

[@Vizeh]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@wlrwilly]

since you switched into these typa videos, all vids have been a 10/10🔥🎉

[@Vizeh]

Glad you like them!

[@TopSaint]

How on earth have you made 2 football icebergs and neither of whom mention Masal Bugduv? 😂🐐

[@Vizeh]

This is the first time I’ve seen his name in any suggestions, I’ll look into him

[@jakxcombat]

Hey only discovered your content recently, been on youtube since 2007 and I like your videos mate. Subscribed!

[@Vizeh]

Appreciate you being here pal, thank you!

[@ThatGuy5331]

Hi Liam, loving the content! Could you please cover the Golden Whistle (apito dourado) Portuguese scandal please? It’s one of the biggest corruption scandals that almost never gets mentioned.

[@Vizeh]

I looked into that actually, I’ll be speaking about that soon! Theres so many scandals in football

[@dontenterthischannel2995]

These are prolly the best videos you’ve made ever

[@Nirbanox]

Nice. ...2nd part of iceberg video!

[@jackchat]

Quality content mate! Keep it up🤝

[@Vizeh]

Thank you 🙌

[@PataMuncher]

Part 3 needed 🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@knownnuisance7512]

i'm a new sub and i'm liking your style of narration keep it on👌

[@Vizeh]

Thank you man!

[@ExZacaly]

Another banger Vizeh

[@emmettaurandt3210]

One of the most inspiring football creators, every vid you upload is a masterpiece

[@Vizeh]

Thank you man! Kind words

[@ltfcjt]

You can tell your enjoying yourself more making these 🧡

[@Vizeh]

I hope to make more like this soon!

[@raspingsheep3178]

Thanks for mentioning my team Raith Rovers, shame that amazing team couldn't win anything. Keep it up!

[@Johnnyboy19955]

As a Jewish man, that story about hamill that I was told when I was a child always breaks my heart, amazing video

[@Vizeh]

Truly awful man, so many horrible events happened during WW2

[@MosesA14]

i remember my dad lived in ghana as a boy and remembered the ‘91 disaster and as a ghanain, he said that it felt like there was an aura of fear around football in general.

[@kznopressure]

Can you do a whole video on Jeremy Winsten? It's a devasting topic that needs to be talked about.

[@MrM1NM]

These deep Dives are Quality Liam have you thought about doing big clubs of yesteryear like Oldham, Bradford,Barnsley,charlton,Bolton Ipswich who were in the premier league once upon a time or even Notts County the oldest English football club now non league or even Wrexham who once knocked Arsenal out of the FA cup keep up the good work 🙌🏻🙏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@Vizeh]

I can do mate, into the OG Prem clubs could be interesting

[@Timewyrm1989]

An Oldham video would be great, considering until last year there were absolute bastard owners in charge but things appear to be looking up under Frank Rothwell lately

[@moncefecw3131]

I know maybe it's not interesting like the big leagues but you can do the violence era in between 2002 to 2015 in Algerian football, or the 2010 scandal between Egypt and Algeria thank you

[@lukundo7792]

Thank you for adding the Zambia National disaster. I never saw them play but they've always inspired me. RIP Legends and may God be with their families.🙏🏼🔥

[@ramiresibsen]

7:19 being Brazilian and not knowing how to play football should be a crime

[@tomaszkamieniczny-tr9xy]

One story you could cover is the story of Czesław Michniewicz, ex Poland & Legia Warsaw manager, who is still accused of corruption during the mid 00s in Polish football, it’s a dodgy story & still ongoing

[@Retcy]

Best documentaries on youtube ❤️

[@Vizeh]

Thank you❤️

[@thebristolianmackem2039]

Do the Brian Clough story from the greatest goalscorer in England of all time to alcoholic then to greatest manager of all time he had a goals per game ratio of 0.92 still not beaten by anyone yet in any english division he mostly played in division 2 but did get promoted and got into the England team but soon after his career was cut short after a horrible injury and soon came the alcohol

[@Jester-611]

thanks vizeh for this video

[@Vizeh]

Thank you for being here!

[@jordanhendon861]

havent even watched yet but can tell this gonna be a banger

[@kiggaboi3417]

Great editing from a KZbin 🐐, Vizeh on a Wednesday>>>>>>

[@Vizeh]

Happy to help bro!

[@nicholascurmi9486]

18:78 slight mistake 😅! Love ur vids Vizeh ! Keep it up

[@marsiii296]

even though these tragedies with teargas have been happening over and over and over again, these police officers never learn. they will just grab the teargas because they cant do their job properly. im sick and tired of this.

[@Vizeh]

It’s a very common theme it’s so devastating honestly

[@aaronedwards6465]

These are my favourite ever videos

[@isaacmoore]

Im a wellington Phoenix fan and im proud to see my club being represented here love to see it!!

[@Vizeh]

Had to give some love for the NZ boys

[@S3V1ET_N1NJA]

Love these types of videos. keep it up dude🙌❤️

[@Vizeh]

More to come!

[@bubblesmasher4939]

Just wow 🤩🤩 what a video 2023 is vizehs year

[@darek1129]

i love these iceberg videos

[@Vizeh]

I love making them!

[@russellliban76]

There is one story many people didnt know.. Indonesia vs Malaysia.. Indonesian fans attacked the visiting Malaysians that lead to a match being postponed for 30 mins like that.. even worse, the Malaysian Minister of Sports was present during the match and experienced the whole thing.. after the match, the players had to wait for rioting Indonesian fans to go away from the away stand as they want to attack the malaysian players.. they were forced to leave the stadium in a Barracuda

[@mranony4364]

Also check georgios katidis, a man known for a very controversial salute after scoring a goal in a certain match in greek league

[@twgyo223]

Thank you for talking about the Zambia disaster. Am zambian and I feel for the families each day ❤

[@Vizeh]

Sending my love to Zambia bro🇿🇲

[@dragonofthewest8305]

Keep up the great work I can’t wait until you have million subscribers

[@lovro3488]

You had to include Zvonimir Boban’s famous kick of the policeman after the match against Crvena Zvezda!!

[@Messi_Goat256]

I find this interesting pls do part 3

[@POLM239]

Lately Vizeh has been a great watch in bed at the end of a long day

[@Vizeh]

I’m happy to help your late night content!

[@perih3lion]

Laughing at your username as a fellow Chelsea fan

[@POLM239]

@@perih3lion yesterday is proof (don’t watch the match weeks since Bournemouth in jan)

[@perih3lion]

​@@POLM239 I am just happy we won by more than one goal tbh

[@POLM239]

@@perih3lion we have a streak now I used to dream about this