The Day After The Scam | Castle Super Beast 247 Clips

[@Pragabond]

"Woolie nowadays half of these kids can barely read" God damn becoming a dad really hit Pat hard and fast.

[@hyperionman420]

He's literally right though

[@Diinytro]

@@hyperionman420 ?

[@FranK-tg7ou]

He’s not wrong but sometimes Pat can’t read

[@In-The-Zone]

@@hyperionman420 They can read but they can't retain : (

[@Pragabond]

@@hyperionman420You do realize the hilarious irony of you misusing the word literally while saying kids these days don't know how to read and use words good right lmao Its either that or you actually do think 50% of the kids in NA are illiterate which is wiiiiiiiiild and if so please just stay right here and keep commenting I'm so here for that kinda insanity

[@Karikaze]

Couldn't just make a honest bad game like Gollum or Kong.

[@leithaziz2716]

To be fair, we've had 3 major stinkers (Gollum, Kong, Walking Dead game) back to back, I don't think anyone wants to be honest about what they're putting out at the moment.

[@dullroar2673]

Kong at least has the excuse of being made by a studio of less than two dozen people who had less than a year to develop from scratch, with literally no guidance from the company. A Wii Shovelware-tier game is infinitely more honorable than borderline theft

[@wadespencer3623]

If you want to make an honest bad game you need a license, cause some sucker will buy anything with their favorite franchise plastered onto it.

[@danielcooper7433]

THIS SHOVELWARE HAS NO HONOR

[@NeutralGuyDoubleZero]

The fact Woolie thinks average social media users have any idea about fonts or what they mean is cute. The level of thinking went as such: "Hey this reminds me of last of us" End thought

[@logandh2]

He has hope left in his heart. It’s foolish. But he has hope. Hope that mankind can be worth something. It’s not, and heartbreakingly it never will be , but there will always be hope.

[@Gungho73]

@@logandh2 He's still hoping people will identify his brand with BANGERS

[@Comkill117]

Shocker: game I’m convinced people only heard of from videos saying “this is probably a scam” was a scam.

[@NyJoanzy]

I only heard of it the day before it was found to be a scam.

[@EbonMaster]

It first got attention from the "it might be a scam" people because it was at one point the most wishlisted game on Steam.

[@Comkill117]

I still just can’t believe that though. Literally everyone I’ve ever talked to about it was confused by it being the most wishlisted because they never heard of it either. I don’t even mean just people who only play the more niche stuff usually talked about here, I’m talking like more casual gamers I worked with, or friends who are into the type of game it was supposed to be. It’s a truly bizarre “game”.

[@n.a.4292]

The company didn't disband, it just changed name to keep on scamming

[@notsoy]

The Company That Erased Its Name

[@Shadest]

Can't wait to see the first game from Jantastic Studio

[@qnybucks]

hell fuckin yeah. keep on that grind.

[@V0idedOut-E33]

That grift was so good I think I'll try it again

[@tylerlackey1175]

​@@V0idedOut-E33you took my only grift, now I'm gonna starve...

[@Rikuo86]

I think the craziest part is that The Day Before isn't even the first scam game of it's type. Every year or some game comes along on kickstarter saying: "We're making a game that allows you to go where ever you want, do whatever you want, and interact with players all over the world. You'll have so much freedom and choice!" And every single time they get funded 2000% over the initial kickstarter. Then when you finally see gameplay after 4 trailer delays, it looks like a shitty unity asset flip and the dev runs with the money.

[@DrAiPatch]

Go look up the game Dreamworld it is the funniest version of what your talking about.

[@BoxcarPhill]

Gamers have the memory of a dementia patient

[@NeutralGuyDoubleZero]

Thats actually a different type as this wasnt kickstarter/crowdfunded and purely built off false advertising instead.

[@JackgarPrime]

I HATE when a game says you can do "whatever you want." No. You can't know what i want. Just make something YOU want to make, and if it's something i also want, I'll buy it.

[@limcw6092]

Can’t feel bad for those who donated, they actually deserve to lose their cash since they are gullible enough to fall for the oldest kickstarter truck in the book

[@heardofrvb]

I never heard of the game before the news broke out. Damn.

[@originalscreenname44]

Yeah. I have never heard a single thing about this game until the scam allegations came out.

[@ice_queen9]

same except i'd never heard of this game before i saw this video

[@TAMAMO-VIRUS]

I saw a video of Moist Cr1tikal talking about it earlier in the year about how it's a fake game that will never come out because they kept delaying it, then had some copyright issues. I put it out of my mind after that. Imagine my surprise when it actually released. Only to not be surprised when it turned out to be shit.

[@SvarogAristaeusAllen]

We failed to pass on the knowledge of "A game isn't real until you see gameplay", "Know the difference between a concept trailer and a real game", and "Learn to tell actual gameplay apart from a mockup trailer", and unfortunately the new generation must learn the hard way.

[@spideralexandre2099]

Lyle taught me no game = no hype those is the rules

[@GaijinEncarmine]

Somewhere, TotalBiscuit is smiling. This one's for you, man.

[@MrFox-ox2ze]

Fuck. Now I'm sad...why couldn't it have been keemstar?

[@Muninnnr]

As I've gotten older, I've become less in touch with the latest gaming news and the hottest upcoming game releases. However, I still consider myself enough in touch to at least have some knowledge about the most hyped games coming out. So imagine my surprise when, during the last few days, I've started hearing about "The Day After", a game which was supposedly one of the most wish-listed games on Steam turning out to be a massive scam. What is this game? Where did it come from? Why the hell were people so hyped for it? I still don't know the answer to these questions, but by God, I'm enjoying the content.

[@originalscreenname44]

I'm guessing the hype came from people who are not interested in the currently available MMOs (most of which take after traditional RPGs) being hype for a zombie apocalypse setting in a constant service. Those people could have just played Project Zomboid instead, but I suppose that's a blindspot for them.

[@blakeisthebeast]

Same here. The one nice thing about the mountain of basically shovelware is that it’s usually easy to identify.

[@Bessux]

Not keeping up with modern bullshit is the key to a happier life. Stay free.

[@kalekujo4519]

The Ryu/Ryo thing at SNK is hilarious, but at least in that case both characters were made by the same dude. So it was less copying someone else's homework and more quickly rewriting a few paragraphs on an old essay and then trying to turn it in again later in the year.

[@kip_c]

I wouldnt be surprised if the "most wishlisted game on Steam" did so with bots

[@Kango234]

I'd be surprised if it wasn't.

[@RavenCloak13]

​@@Kango234 I'd be sad if it wasn't.

[@Comkill117]

It has to be right? Like I legitimately refuse to believe otherwise without hard proof.

[@AJGexe]

On a related note: the intro to the Ed, Edd, N Eddy movie is some of the greatest cinema of all time.

[@leithaziz2716]

This is probably the most obvious scam I've seen on the internet so far. Hope people who got roped into it got their money back.

[@ultraspinalki11]

You said it yourself, it was the most obvious scam, yet there are still people who bought it. Why should such idiots get their money back?

[@leithaziz2716]

@@ultraspinalki11 Kindness is a virtue. Not really much complicated beyond that.

[@yanipheonu]

Many did. Lots of mass refunds.

[@biggiewiggie5557]

@@leithaziz2716 Kindness is a virtue, but schadenfreude is oh so much sweeter.

[@Pragabond]

@@ultraspinalki11I don't know maybe because they were scammed? Would you rather the scammers keep the money then...? Like you'd rather actual intentionally scummy criminals (that you think did a shit job btw) keep that money over people that are just...gullible idiots...by accident. The fuck is wrong with you my dude?

[@oddlots2186]

distinctly remember when the original trailer came out Pat actually calling it that it'd be a fake game

[@hibarikyoya854]

Not even crazy talk was powerful enough to make this a real game

[@Dragonsmana]

The weirdos going wild over GOTY winner being BG3 really needs to take a step back and realize, they are upset over a shiny award from the Doritos Pope who runs a 3 hours commercial who doesn't have an ounce of respect for the people he ends up handing it to, outside of Kojima that is.

[@shadowreaverrising1753]

Sadly I think most of the gaming community don't know what Dorito Pope is. His face lives rent free in my mind.

[@infinite-sadness]

@@shadowreaverrising1753him sitting in front of mountain dew and doritos with a dead inside stare is a core memory in my mind.

[@jojak0512]

There’s one thing about this game that isn’t brought up in this video that’s actually kind of important to the whole scam thing. If the game was advertised correctly and it was just a shit game the devs could’ve gotten away with it. The important part though is that they literally lied about the genre of the game. It was advertised and shown in trailers to be an open world survival zombie mmo like dayz. They literally had the open world mmo and survival tags on steam before release. Turns out that it’s just a shitty asset flip extraction shooter with no open world or survival elements. They literally removed every piece of marketing that showed any open world survival gameplay after the release.

[@music79075]

I remember watching the initial trailer and thinking "oh great another zombie game /s" followed by "oh its DURING the fall that sounds int- oh its an mmo nevermind thats not real."

[@HyperFerret93]

Love the guy on Twitter that posted that Spider-Man cutscene as proof of quality. FF16's Bahamut and Titan fights lets you play the cutscene.

[@areallybigdwarf4560]

The day before the day before... delight, absolute delight.

[@leithaziz2716]

The end is never the end is never the end is never-

[@TruxtonII]

The sooner the lowest common denominator realizes that multiplayer zombie games peaked at Left 4 Dead 2 the better off we as a society will be.

[@adams3627]

I find it both amusing and kind of depressing that somehow the games industry hasn't managed to make a better version of a game Valve made in 2009.

[@cybernurgle6413]

What about 7 Days to Die?

[@TruxtonII]

@@adams3627 I think Deep Rock Galactic manages to accomplish being an enjoyable evolution of the co-op PvE shooter formula L4D codified by having procgenned stages and objectives but it doesn't have the zombies so the absence of the cultural zeitgeist associated with them doesn't carry the game into mainstream popularity.

[@TruxtonII]

@@cybernurgle6413 This is a fair point and I'll admit that I haven't given it a fair shake yet because open world survival games aren't my cup of tea.

[@Bandalorian]

10:23 CAUSE SPI- CAUSE SP- BR- CAUSE SPIDERMAN The mic clips were amazing

[@micheljavert5923]

The funny thing is, I heard about this game long before the news broke. And on top of that, what I heard was that it was likely a scam (and maybe not to put any money in to it). Which is why I was mildly surprised to find out that so many people were shocked to discover that it *was* indeed a scam, and that people had put money in to it.

[@kahlt_]

I won't take this Jak X erasure THAT was a good racing spin-off

[@Comkill117]

It had a straight up better story than Jak 3.

[@kdude25]

I still like Jak 3's story a bit. I may not like that they tried to do a Jak & Ashelin romance out of nowhere. Seemed they ignored a lot of Jak 2 in some cases. But I still thought it was fine. That being said, Jak X's story was WAY better. Like I was fully invested in that story. I miss Jak & Daxter.

[@SomeNewGuy]

The entire debacle around The Day Before has got me sitting here with the biggest shit eating grin imaginable. There were SO SO SO many people coping on Twitter and in their KZbin comments that the game is totally 100% legit guys and that it's going to be game of the year. Now I can look at these people and scream "I FUCKING TOLD YOU SO" once again.

[@miguelnewmexico8641]

healthy.

[@nothing6131]

People got genuinely scammed and lost probably a hefty bit of money. Innocent, human, thinking, people got scammed, and your response is to imagine the joy of rubbing their noses in it because of some of their embarrassing tweets?

[@randominternetsurfersurfin7595]

Yes

[@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat]

@@miguelnewmexico8641 yes

[@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat]

@@nothing6131 good lord

[@krispykrim3532]

because Pat mentioned the old Killzone 2 slander, my ancient rage has awakened. That trailer was never meant to be shown to the public, and Guerilla never said it was gameplay, it was an intermal thing to demonstrate what they were aiming to turn KZ2 into, and Sony decided to take the footage amd claim it was real gameplay.

[@ShyRanger]

I remember a story back when the "you're using unpaid volunteers" first showed up, and an article was like WTF, immediate the response was "Well Webster's defines volunteering as" and I went "K, I"m done."

[@Noxshade]

To everyone asking “how could anyone fall for this?” please remember 2 things: 1. Hindsight is 2020. 2. Video games are a huge part of your life. Many people who play video games think about them a lot less than you do.

[@MarilynMalkovich]

I think if games weren't very important to me I'd be even less likely to put money into crowdfunding or hop into early access tbh

[@ricardomiles2957]

there is also a 3. There is always a unconscious desire on gamers to seek the perfect game. regardgless of the genre. A game that has stunning graphics, really good story and perfected gameplay. When anything remotely resembles that perfect game some people tend to fall in love and become blind.

[@originalscreenname44]

@@MarilynMalkovich Yeah. If this was just a hobby where I buy a game every now and then, I would only be playing COD, Fortnite, or the latest sports release. As someone who pays attention to video games I never heard of this game and I don't think the average person has either.

[@BazzBrother]

there is also a 4, which Woolie subconsciously subscribes to: playing weirdo, trash or obscure takes on your favorite genre for the sake of experimentation or funsies. Some people really are simply connoisseurs tasting all the spicy chicken sandwiches out there to truly know the field competing with Popeyes.

[@yakumoyomi5765]

@@BazzBrother I'd imagine a fair number of streamers fell into that category, hoping that even the "trash" can turn into "treasure" under the right circumstances (drinking with friends, technical issues making the game unintentionally entertaining, etc.). Unfortunately, it seems like The Day Before was just a boring game.

[@psychicjellyfish9466]

The first time I saw anything of The Day Before, I legitimately thought it was a The Last of Us spinoff or something.

[@jansenart0]

I did NOT know that the company was Russian. Now everything makes sense.

[@McgurganatorZX_Live]

Watching this again, "Where's the Gameplay" is like THE most important part of a game trailer

[@noahdansberry5049]

Bloodborne kart mentioned.

[@zanesy6250]

The same thing happened when woolie saw that one mech game at the game awards. It looked really uninspired but Woolie is truly a sucker for giant robots.

[@RavenCloak13]

Least he is self aware of his sucker moments.

[@nogodsnomanagers]

Woolie underestimates the stupidity of the average human

[@insanityv2]

I'm torn between "scammers are bad" and "idiots deserve to be parted with their money, its the only way they learn." E: wait I remember reading that email scams are intentionally bad to weed out the people that might see through it partway through the scam. Could this be a similar thing?

[@miguelnewmexico8641]

i like both.

[@RawkLobstah88]

The problem is, the one thing that we learned with the whole crypto and koopy markets the past couple of years is that, no, scammees *will not* learn. They'll walk into the next rake, grumble painfully when it hits them in the face, then walk over to the next rake.

[@BazzBrother]

virtually all consumer protections are for the benefit of the dummies (don't swallow Legos people), and sadly most of those dummies have families that become victims by proxy.

[@An_Inconvenience]

Hustle or scam

[@leithaziz2716]

You don't lose anything from being empathetic, so what's the loss.

[@GameBooAdvancePlus]

its important to know that the scam went on for 5 years and people are still CLAMMERING for a DayZ successor. Not sure how I feel about treating the people who fell for it idiots when its more on the scammers in this case.

[@shadowreaverrising1753]

"They're McDonald's. I'm McDowell's. They have the golden arches, mines is the golden arcs"

[@jackcoleman1784]

They have the Big Mac. Mine is the Big Mic!

[@TheRogueWolf]

I feel like we've entered a post-rational-thought age, where people are so desperate for The Next Big Thing to identify with and be hyped about that the "Shut Up And Take My Money" meme has stopped being a meme.

[@qwertyqeys]

There's a genuine sense of desperation I've encountered with people needing a AAA game announcement to be good, and so they'll ignore all red flags so they can be excited about the big money cool thing

[@michaelmaguire4147]

I just never even look at trailers for anything anymore. I'll just wait for it to come out,.

[@s7robin105]

It’s not that they were trying to run off with Players money. I am positive it was to scam investors who invested in the studio and game

[@minibotas9496]

Even then, 4 days to keep it up? That’s too short

[@s7robin105]

@@minibotas9496 The length wouldn’t matter because they already got paid during “development” while the devs who volunteered got no paychecks beyond free copies or “exposure”

[@DrAiPatch]

My favorite part of this whole thing is they got pulled from Steam and youtube because there had been a "trademark issues" with their name all while saying they are not a scam.

[@n00bleaker19]

For anyone curious KiraTV has covered The Day Before extensively in the past year chronicling this shit saga of a game development.

[@leeohx7174]

We were all there once, for you it was Anthem, for others, like myself, it was No Mans Sky (though they saved it), and now for them it's The Day After. Some ppl see zombies and they get hype like some ppl see mecha and get hype. It's not how could the consumer fall for it, it's how could the company think they'd get away with it is the better question LOL

[@Eathus]

You better believe that "game" is cobbled together almost entirely from pre-made assets from the devstore.

[@winkoman3]

Matt mentioned!

[@aptspire]

Pat was asking about the paperwork. Pretty sure the only paperwork was draft letters for all the devs.

[@CuoriRubati]

I've never heard of this game until today, my phone served me a google story about "more than half of The Day After players refund game" or something like that, and now I see this.

[@VadBlackwood]

Can someone tell them to update the description? Stitcher is 3 months dead.

[@arcanite_force]

SRB2 Kart is a great entry into the kart racer genre

[@UndeadGary]

Honestly, I have little to no sympathy for all those who got scammed on this one. People from day 1 were screaming from the rafters that this was a scam, yet the true believers became insular and resistant to anyone criticizing the game. I remember months ago being called an idiot on one of their dev "updates" for not believing this project was real. At a certain point, if people are telling you not to jump off the cliff and you call them stupid and do it anyway, then honestly, you get what you deserve.

[@badwinkles7896]

well well well..

[@ultimor1183]

They’re back…

[@mortified0]

It got a 1 from IGN, but truthfully it never should have been reviewed at all. Even if it is the lowest possible score, it shouldn't have been given the treatment of actual, real, non-scam games. Nobody should have fallen for this.

[@HoChiMints2007]

Digital Homicide never dies

[@Tenkurel]

There's two of what Pat? TWO OF WHAT!?

[@just_matt214]

"The Day Before is a Terrible Bore." - Oboeshoes, 2023

[@W4L3YT]

The first time I saw the trailer, I assumed it was a standalone prequel to The Last of Us, focusing on different characters. Jeez, even the synopsis I just described is better than what the game was, if it was a game.

[@7U57HTJRYGHG]

Woolie the moment Anthem came to the discussion you should´ve been like "i understand what those people went through" just because you don´t like the genre and see it as generic doesn't mean everyone should look at it the same, the people like their DayZ experiences of running around a desolate wasteland exploring whatever they come across and the human factor these types of mmo´s offer

[@sanninjiraiya]

It's kind of funny how much overlap there is in creating good horror and getting people to fall for these game scams. You give just enough information to raise interest in what is happening then withhold information and induce the viewer to fill in the gaps. Raise the expectations of the game and then they will buy, no matter how credible it may be. The biggest difference being the former induces dread while the latter entices one to buy something; though they will likely feel financial dread later.

[@TheMapleMerchant]

Did not take a genius to see this coming a mile away and yet so many people got owned, what is wrong with gamers?

[@RJisUnconcerned]

Head empty, just hype. I remember the shit i got on reddit telling people this thing was gonna be a trash fire and they wanted to crucify me lol

[@leithaziz2716]

I don't really think it had enough eyes on it in the first place. I only heard about it through Skillup's coverage a while ago.

[@Kango234]

​@@NocturneJester That's where I'm at, I know "gamers" can be dumb, but this seems like botting or maybe they just had a huge push in Russia or something. I just don't get how it can be the MOST wishlisted game on steam.

[@ricardomiles2957]

Two things. First the average gamer doesn't really follow gaming news and is on par with every controversy, for every person who can succesfully spot a fake gameplay trailer there's 10 who will not even care if the final game isn't like that trailer. Second, demand, every fan of certain genres crave for the perfect game, that has stunning graphics, deep mechanics and remarkable story, and when people see something that resemble that perfect game they tend to "fall in love" fast

[@pokehybridtrainer]

People saw Doctor Disrespect get sponsored by them for a stream. Other than that, not a damn clue.

[@weirdo3116]

Wait there are people who are saying spiderman 2 should've beaten Baulders Gate? I have to find these videos now

[@venuztrvp]

The shit came and went like a bad faith boomerang 😂

[@infinite-sadness]

I have 0 interests in Baldurs Gate and will never go near it, but i understand why it swept everything.

[@ButcherGod]

Woolie asking "who buys this?!" In a world where Assassins Creed and Call of Duty are still making sequels. 😒

[@ricardomiles2957]

cod is fun at least

[@leithaziz2716]

You had Fifa or sports games as the most obvious low hanging fruit.

[@KogashiwaKai]

And as is a person who buys weird indie fighter that only he heard of

[@Roronoa2zoro]

@@leithaziz2716 Nobody really expects sports games to change, though. I guess that might be why CoD gets a pass as well since "shooting dudes with guns" isn't really something that's been innovated much since the invention of the automatic rifle either. It's the people who keep buying Assassin's Creed games that baffle me. Maybe I'm crazy, but when I play a story-based series of video games I'd like the story to actually f*****g go somewhere. The overarching plot of the series has just been pottering about for a decade now since they can't risk bringing it to a close when the games still- mystifyingly, continue to make money.

[@leithaziz2716]

@@Roronoa2zoro The modern day story has wrapped itself actually...in a comic tie-in. Yeah, Im not joking. The antagonist who was teased at the end of AC3 was defeated by Desmond's son, so the conflict has already been over besides the looping plot-point of Templar Vs Assassins. The appeal of AC games is jumping between time periods and experiencing different historical settings. Ubisoft's problem is that other games have started doing AC's thing but more efficiently. They're planning to make an AC game in Japan...in a market where you can play well made games with that same premise that'll probably be better than Ubisoft's output: Sekiro or Ghost of Tsushima.

[@crapnuggets202]

Literally every ad I got on this video was for a scam. I can only assume Crazy Talk is involved somehow

[@lexofexcel886]

16:07 Bad poets borrow; good poets steal.

[@deltaprime3509]

Did you guys hear about hackers hacking into insomniac games and threatening them to give 2 million dollars to them or they will release information they obtained?

[@leithaziz2716]

What, like it's happening right now?

[@Tamaki742]

​@@leithaziz2716It just happened.

[@miguelnewmexico8641]

the hackers are threatening to give insomiac 2 million dollars? wait nope, i misread that. i still like my version better.

[@fernandozavaletabustos205]

At least Gollum or Kong were released games, which devs were victims of greedy producers / executives.

[@Pyrozoid]

MMO people are the punching bags of these scams and every time it works.

[@FriedBacon88]

When they mentioned fake cg trailers I thought the video was about that dragon riding game showed during the vgas

[@npiper]

16:09 Crazy Talk is alive and well... 20 Minutes Until Dawn endered early access 6 months BEFORE Vampire Survivors.

[@ice_queen9]

sounds like someone saw The War Z and was like this gives me an idea

[@UnfunnE]

The sheer stupidity in some people who just wanna throw money at something for no reason.

[@OverlordKog]

Not only has the game been shut down and the devs took the money and ran the bow on top is, before shutting down all socials the devs posted "Shit happens" and poof. Remember though, wasn't a scam guys.

[@alephnole7009]

Just a reminder that the same kind of people who bought: The Day Before.... VOTE!

[@miguelnewmexico8641]

but not us, we're too cool to vote.

[@notOctopicake]

I've become ever so more cautious about Early Access games now, or at least ones that are from companies that I don't know. I had one roguelike game that seemed super interesting. Left it uninstalled for awhile because I figured I'd pick it back up when it releases. Game got flat out cancelled, and hadn't received any updates in a year. Just a "Yeah uh so we're delisting. Bye!"

[@BreadandFaxes]

They forgot to bleep a "fucking" lolol

[@BreadandFaxes]

And a "shut the fuck up"

[@Biodeamon]

yeah I never trust books that have somebody's quote instead of description the back but these guys shot themselves in the foot by shutting down instead of doing a no man's sky or even cyberpunk

[@joshuagrandison7219]

7:35 - As the dumbest person who listens to this show, I can confirm that what Pat says here is accurate.

[@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat]

i dont know man, I'm pretty dumb too

[@DIOBrando-ij2bp]

Of all the fighting game examples, and there were definitely games that existed purely because Street Fighter 2 was the biggest thing in the world for a while, Fatal Fury is a weird one to go with. You can’t be a knockoff when you’re made by the original Street Fighter team and in development at the same time. Tekken is like that too. You can’t be a Virtua Fighter ripoff if you’re created by the lead designer of Virtua Fighter.

[@jackpollard550]

I eagerly await follow-up lawsuit news from Organized Crime the Country.

[@GlassbrainZ]

The real tragedy? It's instant gratification has spoiled us all. Like, never buy a game on release! NEVER EVER pre-order a game! Wait for like three days for everyone to go either "it's a masterpiece" or "it's dog shit" and save yourself like, eighty bucks! So what if you're not like, the VERY FIRST HUMAN to experience some shit? Is the feeling of being right at the bleeding edge really worth such a sink of both time and money?

[@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat]

Even my friend and his cousin, who were horrifically infected with the preorder brain rot have cured themselves of the affliction after borderlands

[@Agent_Cobalt]

Pat is mostly right about zombies fans having low standards but he doesn’t seem to know that VERY SPECIFICALLY people have been trying to recreate the lightning in the bottle that was dayz. They want open world zombie survival milsim. Third person Project zomboid. And The Day Before is literally attempt number 100+.

[@ShayneRawls]

Spider-Man 2 could have won at least 1 award

[@kingofbel6499]

I wonder how exactly the scamming works, since you can refund games on Steam. What were they even trying to pull...

[@Reshiram793]

Yakuza 7s dragon kart

[@pokehybridtrainer]

When they were jumping from UE4 to UE5, I knew they were absolutely full of shit. Accepting the trailers as vertical slices like the Anthem video, I knew this was never gonna come out.

[@StrangeDew]

247 clips but it's not a livestream of clips forever...

[@ubermaster134]

I'm still bummed that Anthem 2.0 got canned. That game could've gone far if it was given the chance it needed.

[@FrogPrinceMichael61]

i havent been keeping up with the podcast or pat's streams because i am too busy. but does he hate Spiderman 2?

[@isaackane4931]

Personally, I never really got into the cycle of Hype for a game, then Disappointment as it fails. Partly because I rarely buy day 1 unless it's something I'm certain will be good. Hell, in some cases, I benefit from the failure. Shit like Anthem and Cyberpunk I just waited until the price dropped to almost nothing, got it, and took what enjoyment I wanted without forking over the extra cash. It really is almost worrying how "Gamers" never learn the lesson of not overhyping a game and always waiting to buy something. Especially with AAA games that are almost always broken on launch and take some time to be put into working order. Indie titles I can understand a little, they do need that early support and people can accept jank and flaws if it's still a good product. So it can be easy to fall victim to the scams or fund a project that quickly falls apart. But at the same time, it's up to the Dev's to try and prove that they are more than capable of making the finished product if they do get that support.

[@heartlesshealer]

Disbanded, or ✨REBRANDED✨? 😉

[@TheQuyman]

I do want a tactical zombie mmo

[@FiveTiger]

Imagine playing another game with the exact same MJ stealth sections and thinking that game should sweep the game awards

[@skruntfanatic]

Just say spider man you dumb coward

[@NinjaCodeman]

If you are watching this and want a really good Zombie game I implore you to check out Project Zomboid. Is it a massive MMO? No. Can you and your friends have fun with it? Yes. Can you join a server and have factions and shit? Yes.

[@adams3627]

Tiktok has decided that I care about those guys who're pissed off about Spidey not winning GOTY, and it's so depressing. It's like the worst dregs of the console wars all over again, the copium dosage is SO HEAVY. Imagine having so much of your personality wrapped up in the game you love that it viscerally upsets you to see people -not -*-disliking-*- it- but liking it LESS than some other game in an entirely different genre.

[@miguelnewmexico8641]

that "word" is still so stupid sounding.

[@Dragonsmana]

Agreed. Both games are great for different reasons. Weirdos just gotta get over it.

[@originalscreenname44]

First of all, The Game Awards have about as much credibility as the Video Music Awards since it's strictly for advertising and promoting games and that's it so I don't think their opinion means anything anyway. Second of all, who cares if Spidey won an award or not? It doesn't change the fact that the game is good. Nobody needs Geoff Keighley's approval to tell them that, especially when there's always some dumb bullshit about what games receive favoritism in the nominations anyway.

[@Egalia_1]

Damn, what a perfect name to fit the topic. "The Day After The Scam" = day after the scam takes place everything goes down. "The Day After. The Scam" = name of the game, the scam game. Just thought that was fun

[@RGcrasyRG]

Premature cut?

[@alastor8091]

I cant believe people still get excited for fucking zombie games in 2023.

[@Imps603]

I gotta be the guy in the room: I honestly do not see any fun in extraction shooters or looter shooters.

[@UltimaKeyMaster]

"Scam is fraud is crime. *Allegedly.* " Oh. Oh boy. Ohhhhhhhhhh boy. Even if they don't cover it, I know what he was referring to.