THE DAY FRIENDS DIED

[@guldmattbb473]

Vee Infuso: Offers to review ‘Joey’ so we do not have to watch it. Everyone: Careful. He’s a hero.

[@VI_V2]

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[@martinlewis6650]

@@VI_V2 the way you have described the evolution of friends just makes me think it mirrors another American comedy i love SCRUBS

[@SporkyMcFly]

@@martinlewis6650 Except SCRUBS was actually good?

[@martinlewis6650]

@@SporkyMcFly so was friends. But they both lost that special something as soon as the cast started directing episode's and becoming executive producer's

[@OfficialRedTeamReview]

Is this what we're doing to the man? subjecting him to the horrors of television?

[@aisha6267]

wait why is no one talking about Phoebe finding out who her biological mother is and how it was such a big deal for like 2/3 episodes, and her mom even gave her advice about carrying Frank's babies. and then all of a sudden her mom just disappears from the show and becomes irrelevant and no one ever talks about her again???? not even when Phoebe got married

[@cryoblink9340]

@@LivelyLinnea to be fair, everyone but ross and rachel were pushed to the sidelines up until chandler and monica started dating. phoebe and joey were always majorly shafted.

[@slovnicurling9808]

Because it's a show and the actress probably couldn't continue her role and they didnt't want to cast different person. Everytime you have to ask why about some show the answer is probably "because it's just a show".

[@troywright359]

@@slovnicurling9808 that's fine, yet thinking about the show is not bad. we are allowed to question characters motivations and desires and screentime.

[@aisha6267]

@@slovnicurling9808 yeah but they never make a reference to her ever again? Pheobe continues to reference the fact that her "mother" killed herself (turns out that wasn't her real mother) , yet never again references anything about her biological mother, who is alive and well. idk just seems like the writers completely forgot about the fact that they gave Phoebe a living biological parent who she began to have a relationship with for those few episodes

[@GB2595]

The actress got MS and couldn’t continue her role. Yes they could have referenced her, I agree with you.

[@jfdd43]

Shouldn’t this have been called ‘the one where friends died’?

[@anubusx]

😆😆😆

[@cloutchasers45]

Definitely should have been

[@ecb3828]

Ahhhh yesssss 😆

[@Jana-kp7um]

Aaahhhh, an opportunity that was missed😬😅

[@thecrazyalien9207]

That sounds way to dark

[@TheLockdownKidNYC]

Remember the episode where Joey dated Ursula? But then Phoebe got jealous but found out Ursula wanted nothing to do with Joey. So Phoebe pretended to be Ursula and broke up with him (because he wouldn't stop being friends with Phoebe - proving his loyalty to Phoebe) and he gave "Ursula" one last kiss which she (Phoebe) very warmly received? And then Joey said "Phoebs?" And Phoebe said, "Yeah" with a smile like she'd fallen in love with him and it was really sweet? AND THEN IT WAS NEVER TOUCHED UPON EVER AGAIN?

[@homelesshannah50]

Cause he got it that she was just trying to protect his feelings

[@bloojkl4520]

It was kinda of alluded throughout the show that Phoebe had a mild crush on Joey. Remember how disappointed she was when Joey had a crush on Rachel and not her?

[@Clownllyy]

and didn’t he say that she looked even more beautiful, that was so cute

[@airotkiv]

@@bloojkl4520 I read somewhere that Matt LeBlanc and Lisa Kudrow always imagined Joey and Phoebe to have a little fling every now and then or to be more than just friends, but the writers never officially incorporated that.

[@ecb3828]

airotkiv yes, I heard that too! They imagined they would always get together by the end, but it never happened.😭 I ship them thoooooo

[@HarveyTwoFaceDent]

Mike and Ross being uncomfortable in each other’s company is the highlight of the entire series

[@tamerafarly7666]

I kind of liked the Joey/Rachel relationship when it was one sided. Joey managed to portray his feelings for Rachel sincerely, but I didn't buy Rachel returning his feelings. I think that falling in love with Rachel and being rejected was one of Joey's best storylines and they should have just left it at that.

[@MysticClaws100]

Totally agree with this. That was one of the few moments of character development for Joey. Rachel's affection for Joey was portrayed much more as a crush and as lust than Joey's affection which was portrayed as love

[@calliepickering2480]

100% agree, I loved seeing Joey in love. It was heartfelt. But it should have ended there.

[@allegraalberoni]

I agree! it was also pretty relatable, but also a great character development for someone who flirts with everyone but suddently falls in love with a friend

[@nadjakari1752]

Tamera Farly I’m of the same mind. It was so pure and sweet. I also liked their kiss actually, I was rooting for them. BUT I also hoped they wouldn’t make it a funny moment of their relationship like they did... just maybe have them realize they were not that good together or that their feelings got mixed and it was better be friends. In a more mature and sweet way again. But it would’ve been perfect if they had ended with the rejection, it was a great storyline. Rachel having feelings for him was rushed and seemed just like “I want him because I can’t have him” moment

[@Itzzy515]

Yeah the stories of 1 to 8 seasons are perfect include the Rachel and Joey love story but 9 and 10 seasons are very forgettable and have awful stories specially 9 season the worst of friends

[@brolololo]

To me, it died when Emma was born. Ross and Rachel just had no reason NOT to be together other than contrivance.

[@stevewyrick3400]

The fact that Ross and Rachel didn't get an on screen marriage is the worst thing about it besides them spending 7 seasons to finally once and for all get back together for good.

[@Jose-se9pu]

Ross and Rachel stopped been cute after season 4, and it just became a toxic relationship.

[@alexwallar8608]

To me it died when Joey + Rachel became a thing.

[@VicenteTorresAliasVits]

Ross said he was afraid he and Rachel would break up again, which would hurt Emma's feelings. When he finally decides they should get back together, the whole Joey proposal happens. Joey says Rachel was emotional and hormonal and would've accepted anyone, and Ross says he doesn't want to be just anyone.

[@myeeeeeh]

Quite obvious that the creators were bending over backwards just to drag out the "will they won't they"

[@theragingplatypus4743]

Chandler was always my favorite part of the show.

[@spenser9908]

Chandler and Joey were the best part of it. They were like Turk and JD or Fry and Bender. They should never have been torn apart. Sucked when Chandler moved in with Monica.

[@theorchdork9070]

Same

[@funnyguygrayson5163]

Same

[@Ciciatlanticc]

Samee

[@jumokeonifade85]

Mine too ☺️

[@positivelysimful1283]

I think a show with Chandler and Monica raising their adopted kids in the suburbs would have been the best possible spin-off.

[@slav335]

raising Joey in their garage btw, it sounds like the "Man with a plan" with LeBlanc

[@dinini.]

Yeeaah !! Fo sho

[@bradyismond4351]

with Janice as their neighbor

[@voluntaryismistheanswer]

Yeah, adoptees are cool with that not happening

[@westerling8436]

I got a name for it: Barren Womb

[@cathybrown7559]

I agree Joey and Rachel - horrible. But one thing that always bugged me was when Emma was born, Ben just disappeared.

[@andremitreuter5397]

I think he dusappeared even a little before that. In fact it rarely feels like Ross was a father

[@anaalicia5029]

Cathy Brown I always thought that too: just a few scenes in the last two seasons with Ross and Ben (one scene per season even!) would’ve fixed that.

[@analiesestrawberries7195]

Apparently the actors would hold themselves back when kids were on set so the show runners thought it was best to film less with the kids so the actors could work better

[@charliehamnett5880]

I heard he found out he had a secret twin brother and went to live with him in some hotel or something like that anyway.

[@lucasconley1394]

I think Joey and Rachel was a great storyline and I do find it kinda weird that Ben just disappeared.

[@hazel6185]

my nitpick: everyone shits on Chandler in later seasons and there's no payoff or anything to compensate, they're just mean with him for free

[@indianspartan76]

Oh my God yes! And it's not just endearing fun you have with a friend. The way Phoebe and Rachel talk about him is straight up cruel, not how I'd talk about any of my friends

[@VicenteTorresAliasVits]

"Who would you punch?" "I'm not going to answer that." "Chandler?" "Yes, but I don't know why."

[@radhiadeedou8286]

Chandler is my favorite character, that pissed me off so much

[@virces6563]

Um Monica is the one who’s abusive

[@radhiadeedou8286]

@@virces6563 they all are, remember the episode where he got glasses?

[@conallross1694]

David Schwimmer is the only reason Ross is ever even SLIGHTLY likeable

[@zebraaapje3320]

Unagi

[@freddiem6805]

It's because of the laughtrack honey

[@CGZ26]

Yes, I agree.

[@ukculture9240]

Naar ross my favourite character he’s the logic of the show

[@hesayshesayhowboutmesay]

UK Culture the guy with 3 divorces, the guy who slept with someone 3 hours after having a blowup with his girl friend, who didn’t like a nanny who was beyond qualified, because he’s a guy, who faked his own death to see who would feel bad and celebrate him, HE’S THE LOGIC OF THE SHOW..........wow.

[@spenser9908]

Friends took a dip, for me, after Joey and Chandler stopped being roommates. Just wasn't the same.

[@Maxmellow94]

I hear you there

[@brenobertoco]

that was like the end of an era! no more j-man and channy's

[@fullhousefrek]

agree 100%

[@Anam.Fatima19]

I actually agree on this one. Their dynamic was one of the best parts of the entire show.

[@VIDEOSCUORESANNITA]

No. It wasn't the same. It was SOOOO MUCH BETTER after that. I liked more the mature Chandler.

[@MrRichardBoner]

Joey's money situation is perfectly consistent. - starts off as struggling actor who only gets roles in crappy plays - hits big money with the Days of Our Lives and immediately blows it on the new apartment - gets fired and loses everything he bought, because he did so with credit cards - returns to being struggling actor - gets rehired for DoOL as an extra and gets slight financial stability - becomes popular and a mainstay on DoOL, which gets him high money again

[@ELFanatic]

I always felt that Ross really changed after the "we're on a break" arc. Before that, he was always the most adult person in the room. He married young, was faithful and devoted for several years. finds out he's a dad and immediately wants to be the father. He has a healthy relationship with Carol who is his ex-wife and his complication with susan really boils down to him not wanting to be pushed our or replaced as Ben's father. He lived on his own, made good money and generally the voice of reason in those early episodes. After the break up arc, he was defined as someone who always made large mistakes. Just a shame.

[@flagler88]

It got worse after Emily. He was a mess of a character in season 5 and even more in season 6 when he stayed married to Rachel. I felt they pulled the reigns in on him for season 8 but let it go again season 9 when he hid the phone number of that guy that wanted to date Rachel. To me that was the end of those two as a viable couple and I really didn't want them to reconcile at the end.

[@progeniesofthetoiletpaperh6433]

I actually liked what happened with Ross. Really portrayed that even the people who looks like they got their lives figured out or at least have a stability of having their lives kinda figured out can still make a mistake that will drastically change their character altogether. He went from this really uptight and calculating mf to seizing the moment mf.

[@MartyMcFly__25]

It bugs me that show just ignores Ross's whole other kid. Like Ben is totally forgotten and barely references him ever again.

[@WillowJordan1979]

That's a good point. Did Ben ever meet his sister?

[@welchomestudio]

OK, the character Ross had a son called Ben, but the show never needed Ben. So Ben exists somewhere, and we don't see him. Big deal! It's a story about young adults and their relationships. Including kids in the story for more than a few episodes would have been tedious and would have ruined the balance between the main characters. Kids are not the main focus, and that's a good thing. Other shows do that, and that's great, but Friends wasn't one of these shows.

[@WillowJordan1979]

@@welchomestudio Why have kids in the mix at all then? Either write them in or don't. Ben didn't have to be in every episode, but since they showed him more in the earlier seasons, it was a bit odd and inconsistent that they didn't later on.

[@welchomestudio]

@@WillowJordan1979 Maybe you're right, but I just don't care at all about this character. He's absolutely not the focus of the show for me. That's just entertainment, we watch it because it's fun, not for its coherence or its plausibility (to a certain extent). So yeah, it might be disturbing to some people, but it didn't bother me at all. And why include him in the first place? Well, probably because they needed this character at some point, but he was no longer needed later on, so they ignored him.

[@enigmalfidelity]

​@@welchomestudioI have friends who think the same way about their OWN kids. Anybody who has them knows that they become your life, so they should have either not written him in, or carried out with an actual storyline surrounding Ben. If they don't want to continue to include him, write him out of the story. They chose to just never bring him up again. Imagine thr mindset that instilled on people's lives. Influence comes from everything, even the lack their of.

[@Kongaslam]

Watching Ross without the audience reaction makes him a psycho.

[@magnusprime962]

Kongaslam I mean, if I thought the show was realistic and that Ross was any kind of credible threat it would. But I was always able to suspend my disbelief and remember that Ross is the kind of guy who belongs at Weenie Hut Jr’s.

[@skinni_the_P00hBear]

@@magnusprime962 Weenie Hut Jrs💀💀🤣🤣

[@yeezus4950]

Magnus Prime that’s more Chandler, Ross always had a good physique but would wear baggy clothes to hide it

[@shaynemac]

Captain Sobel approves

[@brabbit3389]

Watching dubbed in Japanese all the characters are like cartoon, anime characters- so ridiculously OTT

[@andreasa8486]

Ross's BEST best moments from the entire show..... His 'Hi' from season one. "I am FINE". Unagi and of course Pivot

[@lim4275]

OMG! The toast he gives at the party he has to prove he’s fine is one of the funniest scenes in the entire series to me. The sandwich thing is also very funny, IMO.

[@andreasa8486]

@@lim4275 my sandwich MY SANDWICH 🤣😂

[@DogZuDem]

@@lim4275 yeah those scenes had me crying in laughter for several minutes and i usually never laugh

[@Adrianne519]

How about Ross' leather pants? That always gets me roaring with laughter! Or his reaction to seeing Chandler and Monica together. It's hard for me not to love the scenes when he's embarrassing himself like the tanning salon and etc just because David is such a good physical comedian!

[@andreasa8486]

@@Adrianne519 oh absolutely! And yes he is a fantastic actor. Ross can be a bit terrible at some times but he managed to make him funny and likeable

[@TheEPICFAIL23]

"joey is reffered to as both 31 and 30 in the same season and in the next season, he is said to be 32" yeah thats how passage of time works

[@Serevarno]

pedrothegeneral right? Nowhere does it say that each season is one year in show time.

[@gcwp7737]

I'm so glad someone said this lol

[@aliyahhb4491]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@TheSaiyanPrincess89]

I'm so glad I wasn't the only one thinking, "Yeah, the number goes up every single year in the show's time." LMAO

[@christinababy]

there was a thanksgiving and christmas episode every season pretty sure they just didn’t take into account the characters ageing

[@molla5587]

What annoyed me SO MUCH was the way Chandler‘s character was reduced to being Monica‘s boyfriend/husband. He gradually lost more and more substance he had to his character from the moment he and Monica got together.

[@trildi]

No. He matured and toned down his sarcasm, i.e. his dark view on the world. It was progress, and I get it, no matter how much I love sarcastic Chandler.

[@whodat1917]

agree, but he used his humour to cope with the childhood trauma and depression. once he got with monica, the amount of sarcastic comments and humour in general decreased because he was gradually becoming happier, so it was a nice character development.

[@JustRoudkill]

Ed Carone III that’s how I see it too...

[@renge5589]

This is so true!! I started to dislike his character after he got married.

[@AMY1213141]

He was definitely funnier in the earlier seasons but he was happier in the later seasons

[@dhgbfhhhg8d412]

I was obsessed with this show for a few years, but stopped watching around 2002 when I realized it had just become silly and that I was no longer watching it for sharp comedy , but rather just for plot developments. The first 5 seasons are rock solid, and it’s just hit or miss after that. Still one of the best sitcoms ever though.

[@nazb33]

The moment you mentioned Aisha Tyler, I instantly hit the like button. You got that right. She needs no explanation other than "wow". She's absolutely beautiful

[@wallabies917]

One of my problems with Ross and Rachel ending up together is I don’t see why it will last this time. They’ve been on and off for years, what makes them getting together this time any different? I don’t really have any reason to be believe they won’t break up again within a year. Not that I think Rachel should’ve ended up with Joey, either. I think she should’ve taken the plane to Paris for her new job. Starting the show, she was incredibly dependent on her family’s money. She was spoiled and had never worked a day in her life. So having the last episode be her, with no one else to rely on, going to foreign country for her dream job, would’ve been a nice close on her story. I think, anyways.

[@liv97497]

Honestly? It's just that them breaking up in the first place was for a stupid reason. They weren't together for most of the show just to keep the tension in, to add something interesting. For a long time, at least since Emma was born, there was really no reason why they *shouldn't* be together. I agree with you, though. I like to think that they worked out a way that she would still have gone to Paris, because her giving up that opportunity was just dumb.

[@NostalgicMem0ries]

it was made for fans to have happy ending, not about realistic plotline.... i remember in 03 most fans were talking about how it will end, many hated that black ross girlfriend, rachel career stuff also made fans mad, they wanted that love story of s1-s3 to end happy.... sadly it went not as god as it should have been

[@Locohappy]

Ross comes off like this stalking/waiting creep who waits for Rachel to have a weaker moment so they can end up together again. He never got over her and uses her insecurities to his advantage. I would have loved if Rachel would have went to Paris and Ross maybe finally move on. Or just spiral into a bitter womanhater.

[@brendancomiskey2349]

Ross never got the growth his character deserved. Phoebe once made the observation that Carol messed him up with regards to trust, and it was most obvious with Rachel and Mark. The problem was he never grew from this - if they'd shown him getting over his jealousy and trust issues (And maybe both he and Rachel admitting they both contributed to the first break up) the end would have been more satisfying.

[@liv97497]

@@Locohappy that's not 100% true though. People seem to forget that the first time they got back together, it was Rachel who went after him and Ross was in a different relationship. And when he was getting married to someone else Rachel had every intention of disrupting his wedding day, even though she ended up deciding not to. It's easy to paint Ross as a creep but he never went after Rachel when she was in a relationship with someone else. He even tried hard to accept her being with one of his best friends, which is honestly a really weird thing. One of your best friends getting together with your ex-girlfriend and mother of your child is not something that's easy to get over. I don't think they're a perfect couple but I also don't think the problems are one sided - they're both kind of messed up to be honest.

[@trinaq]

Even though I'm a diehard "Friends" fanatic, I will agree it went on for a lot longer than it probably should have. Season 10 was probably my least favourite, as most of the Friends became caricatures, and exaggerated versions of themselves, with the arguable exception of Rachel or Chandler, the storylines became ludicrous, and the actors themselves look bored while doing the show.

[@kenianpark2216]

Once the media started constantly publishing how many $$$millions the cast were earning, complete with endless looped re-runs, the show instantly became less appealing.

[@Jose-se9pu]

While season 10 is weak (like season 7 and 8), season 9 was the rock bottom of the show.

[@BabySwearWords]

Jose 84 Season 9 is very forgettable.

[@robynofrye4311]

TBH, if they had given the others more room instead of Ross and Rachel they could have easily made 10 equally quality seasons...

[@Itzzy515]

Yeah season 9 is the worst

[@uriargaman7241]

Me when reading the title: "Friends never died" The video: "So yeah... the show didn't actually die". Appreciate this. When a critic who thrives on negativity admit nuance you can know they're worth their salt. I've watched this show 5 times or so already, it's a sureway to relax and prepare for sleep. It's endlessly rewatchable. Sure, it could have been better, but as you say - the dynamic between the cast keep it alive, even when you hear a bad joke for the sixth time.

[@toufikelhossami8151]

I can't believe that out of all 7 of Joey's sisters, they couldn't find a single one that would appear in the Joey spin-off and recast instead??

[@cheesefinnegan]

“Paul Rudd, slide in my DM’s,” I’m dead lol

[@matthewsierakowski5546]

At first they weren’t planning on keeping Mike but they brought him back because of the audiences reaction to Mike that they brought him back. So if it feels rushed, that’s why.

[@joshuagarnham9703]

I think they confused the like of the character with like of the actor. Which can be fatal in sitcoms.

[@miyazakisimping]

Other than the three of them all becoming couples actually being too far fetched, I'd say that Joey and Phoebe didn't belong together anyway. They had a special, cute bond in their own aloof way. A relationship between them would feel so unnatural to me.

[@Adrianne519]

Thank you! I feel the same way about them! I never wanted to get together, they were just so sweet as friends.

[@SethColby69]

Honest opinion : I kinda thought the idea of joey and Rachel being together was weird because through most of the seasons it looked like joey would end with phoebe (which should've happened IMO)

[@trinaq]

I concur, even Matt and Jennifer stated that filming romantic scenes together made them feel creepy, as they were great friends off camera. Reportedly, Matt and Lisa wanted to add in a joke hinting that Joey and Phoebe were having a casual friends with benefits relationship during most of the show, but the writers and producers rejected this proposal, on the grounds of it being "too cliche".

[@segundovargas]

Oh, how ironic.

[@laalaag2auntyayag776]

I always thought Joey and Phoebe should have ended up together too. But I watched a video essay about how it means so much more that they didn’t. It shows a man and a woman that really can have a true, loving, completely platonic friendship that doesn’t have one of them only committed to the relationship for the possibility of sex. And I’m not even convinced that’s possible in reality, so it’s nice the show runners wanted to portray that

[@cutscenecinema9973]

Rachel and Joey is what happens when people confuse platonic love and romantic love. Rachel is super lonely and, wanting a partner, turns to Joey, a person she has a deep platonic affection for. Conversely, Joey's whole arc is going from not wanting a relationship to wanting a relationship and again, confusing his deep platonic affection for Rachel with romantic interest. Writing aside, that's why it fizzles out quickly because they both realise that there is no sexual chemistry. And yes, Phoebe and Joey would have worked so much better but can see how wanting to avoid every single Friend pairing off with another Friend meant that could never happen. If Mike was played by anyone but Paul Rudd, Phoebe would have ended up with David. But no one can defeat Paul Rudd's charm.

[@socali742]

I never really thought about phoebe and Joey till this I think that putting them together makes more sense than him and Rachel but I think that they were too similar two childlike spacey oddballs not sure has a lot of balance opposites tend to attract with the show giving us a lot of examples of that and I like LaaLaaG2AuntYaya G point about having them stay only friends to show that they could do just that

[@ActiveArron]

A show millions of people watch on repeat even in 2020. Its a long way off dieing.

[@AyeThatsHandsomePete]

People are dumb.

[@Rani-ry8kg]

Friends didnt ever die we still watch it

[@matthewschmidt3912]

Lisa Kudrow and Matt Leblanc pitched a story where it turned out Phoebe and Joey hooked up regularly throughout the years. The writers rejected it and argued that if they had, it would've sent the message that friendship only exists as a preamble for sex.

[@feraflauna3238]

+Matthew Schmidt-While the writers had most of the group hook up anyway. . .Yeah, that makes perfect sense. I'm not arguing whether it would have been a good idea or a bad idea (it's not necessarily a bad idea though. . .), it's that the writers' motivations for not including that doesn't make any sense. Joey would probably find Phoebe really charming and quirky in a way that intrigues him. She's not like the usual girls he dates. And Phoebe would be intrigued by Joey's charm but strange innocence. Their relationship would not be a really strong one but they had fun together the whole time, and they just broke it off not because of anything nasty that happened, it's just that they enjoyed each other more as friends than as lovers. That would be a way it could've made sense. They didn't work out but they never were Ross and Rachel where everything blew up badly whenever they had a breakup. Joey just never mentioned it out of respect for Phoebe and they would shrug it off when everyone was bewildered they ever got together. I dunno, I probably would've preferred that a lot more than Joey and Rachel. Definitely the two that ALWAYS should've remained just friends and nothing more. Joey idolized Rachel and respected her but not more than that. He just never reached a point of maturity either where he was ready for a serious relationship throughout the entire series and Rachel never really saw Joey as a potential romantic partner. But Joey and Phoebe are two people that are capable of having a semi serious fun romance together and both realize it's not anything more than that.

[@buddha3209]

Really? Matt Leblanc has always said Joey and Phoboe were always just best friends and nothing more.

[@GreekDudeYiannis]

You know, I kinda like that. Especially with 4 of the 6 main characters pairing off, having it turn out that the last two kept sleeping with each other would've probably sent the wrong message. Just not a good idea.

[@JRCSalter]

Friends is one of those stereotypical, by-the-book, formulaic US TV shows; a concept I've never enjoyed. But I love Friends, and it's primarily due to the talent of the actors. It just makes me laugh.

[@tyshekka]

Also, it wasn't just a break. Ross believed Rachel broke up with him. So, while sleeping with someone else betrayed his feelings for her, the act also *unknowingly* betrayed Rachel's feelings for him. Rachel thought it was a break, Ross thought it was a break-up. Later, Ross insisted they were on a break so it was okay, while Rachel insisted they were not on a break, and the terminology just made it way too confusing.

[@joshuagarnham9703]

Rachel left it ambiguous on purpose, so she could go back to him whenever she wanted because she thought he would just mope around waiting for her.

[@flagler88]

They got caught up in semantics, regardless of the wording, it felt like things were still up in the air, you don't give up on a long term relationship with a good friend that easily. Ross having sex with someone literally hours after he thought they were done was stupid and he did it soley out of spite as he assumed Rachel had been hooking up with Mark. Considering he could barely stand them in the same room together, I doubt he would have been okay if she had slept with him that night. Plus he lied to her and went all around town making sure she didn't find out, I think in the moment those things were worse in her mind than the sex.

[@danielah3398]

Friends is as good as a sitcom can get without pushing a single envelope, raising any issue, or being original or ground breaking

[@raghurampurohit5251]

Even though I'm a fan of the show, I do nitpick the show a lot. Anytime I re-watch the show, I just skip the whole Joey and Rachel episodes and it would have been much better for the show if Rachel and Ross got back together after Emma was born and just stayed together (they didn't really have a good character arc after Emma was born anyway). But I want some attention now, so I'll compare friends to HIMYM and talk about things that HIMYM handled better than friends which was emotional arcs. Friends always handled romance really well (except for Rachel and Joey) but they were never able to handle grief all that well. For example when Marshall's dad died, I almost cried even though we had seen him like only 7-8 times in the show but same cannot be said for any deaths in Friends and we got to watch Marshall struggle and then come to terms with his dad's death but when Phoebe's grandma died the show just tried to make a joke out of that as well. When Robin found out that she couldn't have kids we saw her struggling throughout the episode even though she didn't really want kids but when Monica found out that she couldn't have kids (Monica who broke up with Richard because she wanted kids) we only saw her hugging Chandler and in the next episode she was just okay with. Then there was that Barney has daddy issues arc where Barney struggled throughout the show and we were never really had something like that in Friends (Monica's issues with her parents were only used as punchlines). Ross by the end of the show became completely unbearable and it's fair that he's getting so much criticism but I have always wondered why Rachel doesn't get any flak for being a brat. She got drunk and revealed to Ross she had feelings for him when he was still with Julie, after they broke up she sabotaged his relationship with Bonnie. She set him up with Emily and then flew to London to sabotage his relationship with Emily and just after Ross got divorced the second time (or was it before the divorce?) she told Ross she had feelings for him just to make herself feel better. And when she got pregnant with Emma, she told her dad that Ross didn't want to marry which led to a whole situation between her dad, Mona and Ross. After Ross and Mona broke up, she told Ross he couldn't date anyone because she couldn't date anyone but started dating without taking Ross's feelings into considerations and then there's the whole Tag situation where the only reason she even hired him was so she could seduce him.

[@megangrant2597]

I absolutely agree. I have loved Friends for so long bu HIMYM is way better in my opionion. It handled very peraonal topics in a very mature way while Friends only played them. For laughs. Fir example when Phoebe gave birth to the triplets she was visuably upset that she muat give them up and the scene where ahe is saying her goodbyes is heartbreaking. But the next episode she never mentioned it again.

[@mccarthy5825]

Wow that's an incredible and interesting comment. Ive grown up with friends and watched it in Ireland from around 96 or so. But only ever seen a few episodes of HIMYM... But with your excellently written comment I think I'm goin to check it out for sure. It seems like there is a lot more to it than I may have realized first. Thanks for sharing your feelings on the show!

[@raghurampurohit5251]

@@mccarthy5825 As someone who's a fan of HIMYM, don't even bother watching the last 2 seasons. They're trash. Other than that, it's a really good show despite the crap that it gets.

[@HAbarneyWK]

@@raghurampurohit5251 The Stella arc is pretty crap too, but otherwise a great show

[@pizzahighfive2612]

It's crazy how on the real, the show Friends is still really legit even today. Probably humanity's favorite sitcom of all time, that and I love Lucy.

[@rawchuyhardy]

yeah if u ar a 50yo

[@WhiteChocolate74]

Leave it to Beaver is good too. I Love Lucy is bad ass

[@RedDeadDepressionist]

@@rawchuyhardy hey, 16 y.o. here, found the show in quarantine and it’s my favorite show ever. Not just favorite sitcom, favorite show

[@HiHi-lt1cb]

Unpopular opinion... I loved the Joey and Rachel romance. Joey got character development by loving someone outside of just for the looks and the sex. Instead of being a selfish womanizer he became caring and selfless, which I’m sure people will argue wasn’t in his character, but I have to say it was a breath of fresh air to give him development instead of just having one character trait (as mentioned in this video). And he was much better for a Rachel then creepy Ross (he got so awful in the later seasons). At least Joey actually cared about her. And she liked him too! Lol I’d love to hear anyone else’s opinions and I don’t mind comparing them, but this is just my thoughts! :)

[@mfflscotty2095]

You still there. I can write a 5 page essay about why Joey and Rachel aren’t compatible and how Ross and Rachel are essentially the same person with different career interests.

[@manvysings]

@@mfflscotty2095 it doesn't work BECAUSE they are the same person. both of them are stubborn and prideful so there's nobody who's willing to compromise and balance out the other's intensity.

[@manoharmanas]

They could have strechted Ross's second marriage to Emily and simultaneously Joey to Rachel. That could have justified Joey's charater more.. Except the British actress playing Emily got pregnant in real life had to be left phased out..

[@cutscenecinema9973]

Just an aside: back when it was normal to have shows with 20 plus episodes a season (as opposed to the current trend of around 12 episodes a season), clip shows were a common money-managing tactic. The number of clip shows in Friends is just a product of its time and not really something that this show can be criticised for.

[@weathermangohanssj4]

Also, less channels, less syndication, and almost no home release. So the best way to re-see a joke would be if it was in a clipshow episode.

[@Thatbohomom]

I love joey and rachel togetehr and here is why. Ross never really respected rachel as we can see how he makes his big love declaration when she leaves for her big job or any other time in the series. Joey always appreciated rachel. For ross, rachel was a fantasy. Joey fell in love with the real rachel, with the rachel who was badass and had a career and a baby and was funny and caring. Ross was in love with a fantasy from high school, with a fantasy he didn't know and anytime rachel acted different than he thought the fantasy was he lost his shit. Joey really really liked her. He was different with her than with any other person. He was gonna step up and be there for Emma, treat Rachel like she wanted to be treated, and really adored who she was. They had a true connection. Joey and Rachels Story felt healthier and more mature than any of the ross and rachel storylines.

[@Kanekonagase]

I agree completely. I thought they had a lot more chemistry than Ross and Rachel ever did. They even had more in common.

[@andreacigala2709]

I totally agree with what you say about Ross, and how Joey appreciated and cared about her more sincerely. But why try and make them into a couple? Wasn't it a wonderful example of loving and caring friends? I think they just ruined it by trying and baking them into a couple.

[@dybruce1]

This is so well explained! I always felt like Rachel and Joeys relationship/friendship developed so naturally and it just made sense to me. I could never really articulate why though, but I totally agree with everything youve said. I didnt necessarily want them to end up together but I liked their character development which brought them together. Ross and Rachel ending up together made NO sense to me at all (other than it being an obvious ploy by the writers to keep viewers happy) They literally both became such different people to who they were when they properly dated. I just didnt believe it. They grew into very independent people leading different lives - I dont even think they were compatible towards the end. Episodes like Rachel helping Ross shop for an outfit for a date (the womans top) and the rooftop party where they were both lusting after Charlie and Joey shows how far theyd come and that their romantic connection had fizzled out.

[@andreamolinar6883]

I agree. Just the fact that Joey was willing to step up so much for Rachel is what really made me love the idea of them ending up together.

[@oake5869]

It’s always that thing were girls hate Ross and some of my male friends just hate Rachel. Let me be the mediator and just say those two fucks deserve each other, whiny brat and snobby bitch, hand in hand to wonderland.

[@MrRichieRides]

Chandler hands down carried this show IMO!!! ESPECIALLY in the later seasons! His sarcasm has always resonated with me in a great way and there were episodes that I probably wouldn’t have liked if not for chandler!! Also Paul Rudd helped in the last couple seasons IMO too say what you will about Paul Rudd but he’s an amazing actor with tons of charisma and just so lovable 🥺❤️

[@RyanChansler]

My biggest issue with the Ross and Rachel, on again off again, relationship was that for 10 years they went back and forth so much that when they finally got together in the end, it felt like if the show went on for another season, we could see them breaking up again after another misunderstanding. They had no consistency like Chandler and Monica.

[@theBabyDead]

You're definitely gonna say the office died when micheal left. 100%.

[@user.7710]

i think the office dying was slow as well. i think they kind of made a mistake when they had jim and pam get together because eventually they both became pretentious assholes

[@obsessivefangirl5055]

@@user.7710 ughh thank you so much for summarising why I hate the office in basically one sentence!

[@FrancisR420]

And? he carried that show on his shoulders and made it look easy.

[@WhiteChocolate74]

I don't like Jenna Fischer or Jon Krasinski and I don't like either Jim or Pam. Neither of them are attractive and both characters are smug as heck

[@A16AdamWalker]

Even being a kid when this first aired, I thought Ross and Rachel were meant to be the villains of Friends... one's a spoiled obnoxious brat who ruined his sister's life on several occasions as a child... the others a spoiled obnoxious brat who went out of her way to ruin reletionships of some she claimed to not be attracted to, only to string the simple minded idiot alone repeatedly. Best moment in Friends was Hugh Laurie pointing out what a horrible person Rachel was. Could of been better someone also pointing out how horrible Ross was... then both characters dying in a fire... but still

[@RalphJr-xp3hp]

A16AdamWalker 😂😂😂.

[@monabohamad2242]

Eww DISGUSTING you people are truly despicable and how is any of that actually true even if it is actually true in the SLIGHTEST you still must have went WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY too far😑😒

[@razieltheFallen1]

insert meme here: 2000: who's that guy next to Rachel? 2010:who's that bitch next to House?

[@RilianSharp]

it sucks how Ross goes along with his parents' abuse of Monica, but the blame lies primarily with the parents for playing favorites ever since Monica was born. like no wonder she had trouble with emotional eating.

[@atisnicholson1844]

If you like Monica, you definitely need a psychiatric treatment.

[@jfdd43]

I always found it weird that monica was like ‘did you realize we all live here’. The Ross thing was a stretch, and more importantly, everyone one ACTUALLY live in the apartment across the hall. If they wanted to make that apartment that important, why not have Ross move into it at the end

[@joshuagarnham9703]

Maybe Rachel and Ross move in at the end.

[@tropicalfruit4571]

Can't believe so few people seem to notice how children disappear from the show. I rewatched Friends so many times and only recently I noticed that Ben appears periodically and he might have been present in the audiences mind for a long time but in the later seasons he starts disappearing to the point where he's mentioned (not showed) maybe 5 times from the moment he disappeared till the end of the show. Carol and Susan disappear shortly thereafter. When Rachel has a baby it's there for... half a season? there are maybe 3 episodes where Emma is actually somewhat of a centrepiece of Rachel's plot but then she becomes just a mention in the dialogue "oh I dropped her off at my mum's". You spend a season on depicting the pregnancy and then... ignore the kid? I understand that it was better for the plot to not have those kids in, I really do, I don't think I'd continue watching if kids took the forefront of the show but come on! At least Ben was handled properly it felt like Ross actually cared for him and as he grew up he got less attention; pretty neat. Also the most annoying parts in the show are the fucking pregnancies and hospital scenes following those... OMG They're unbearable. I like the Phoebe character but couldn't look at her in that season she was pregnant. Same with Rachel. The Ben pregnancy seemed... I guess sort of natural, I felt it was an important part of the plot and Ross character. The Monica and Chandler's surrogate pregnancy was... bad... but not as annoying. The Phoebe and Rachel pregnancies were just unbearable. Both of them were annoying for a full season and it lead up to nothing... NOTHING AT ALL. The triplets disappear in a few episodes and so does Emma. Also the Joey and Rachel romance wasn't too bad in my opinion. Sure, a bit random, and if they were in a relationship I couldn't imagine it but I had no problems with it as it was. I agree Joey and Phoebe would have made so much more sense though.

[@sarahfavela2133]

Joey and Phoebe had way better chemistry than Joey and Rachel. I hated that entire arc!

[@stevewyrick3400]

Friends has one thing that no one can deny, FRIENDS HAS POSSIBLY THE BEST ENDING OF ANY SITCOM OUT THERE.

[@JarlinJamesNDK13]

lol no the good place has a much better a fulfilling end that this dumpster trash

[@nothingspecial6879]

Nah, Two and a half men has the best ending... Just kidding, it was trash!

[@danielsosa63]

Scrubs season 8 has a better ending

[@solidsnake8480]

Not really, Joey was still the same as in season 1, he hasn't had much changes, that really bugged me as everyone else got a happy ending, and just to capitalise off friends, they did this to lead to the spinoff.

[@seppyq3672]

@@danielsosa63 agreed. Still my favorite finale of all time.

[@hpfan]

Clearly, as already noted, this is an unpopular opinion, but I think Joey and Rachel made much more sense than Ross and Rachel. I'll say it. Poorly executed and written, sure. But Joey's growing affection was honestly really sweet, and he's entirely more likable than Ross is. But I do think it's a credit to Joey's character because they *did* show that it was gradual and grounded in a real, close, genuine bond and friendship. So when noted ladies' man, Joey does use the words "in love," it felt sincere because it did take time and reflection, and was rooted in an actual relationship with someone he knew and respected for years. When compared to Ross's "I've loved her since she was a hot, popular teenager, and now I'm just going to be jealous and possessive about her forever because I'm entitled" reasoning, it sits better with me, ESPECIALLY looking back. All things considered, I think the writing/execution once they were actually together was the real downfall and what fell flat for me, not the idea or the build up, especially from Joey's side.

[@Marie-vg5og]

I just posted something so similar! I absolutely loved Joey's feelings for Rachel. Her feelings and/or her acting weren't quite as convincing, but I was totally sold by LeBlanc. I Hate Ross & Rachel, and I felt so sad for her getting pregnant by him then settling for him (we all know how well that actually works out in real life right? Especially when you were off & on for the entire decade of your 20s.... *eyeroll*). I hope they film a reunion and Ross & Rachel have long since had their bitter divorce, and Joey & Rachel finally get together in their 50s/60s and she gets to experience a stable, nondramatic partnership. Ugh I can't believe I still feel so strongly about this lol

[@yeezus4950]

Shannon Joey fell for Rachel because she was vulnerable and pregnant at the time, Rachel was maturing at that time of the show while Ross fell for Rachel while she was at her worst. When she was considered spoiled, judgmental, selfish and a “slut”. Despite all of that, Ross saw good in her. Especially since Rachel was willing to be friends with Monica despite Mon being overweight and not popular. Joey only viewed Rachel as eye candy, even after being roommates with her for a year or two before she got pregnant. I can’t find that to be romantic at all, having a guy fall for a girl who is the ex and mother of one of his best friends. Reason ppl don’t care or mind that because it’s Ross, if Ross was portrayed better then ppl would be hating on Joey for it. One good example is ppl going after Ross for feeling hurt after he saw Rachel and Joey making out, no one cared about the context or Ross in general

[@88Ulloa]

I kind of agree with you Shannon, specially from the growing feelings from Joey. However, I really dislike Joey and Rachel as a couple, because they just had 0 chemistry before the writers wanted them to, what, if I'm not mistaken, started off in Season 9, on that episode in which Rachel had that romantic dream with Joey. Their relationship until that point was really sweet, but never felt like it could ever be romantic. 8 Seasons of an almost fraternal friendship, and totally awkward romance, suddenly turned into a passionate love. Doesn't make sense to me. Sometimes through the show, Joey did hit on Rachel, and that makes total sense to me. She's gorgeous, and he's Joey. And everytime he did that before Season 9, her reaction was embarassingly negative, and Joey, on the other hand reacted somewhere between "Ok... whatever..." and "can't blame me for trying". Some examples: - There's an episode in which Joey kisses Rachel on New Year's Eve. After the kiss he says something like "So... felt something?". And she just looks away annoyed... almost disgusted; - In another episode, Joey thinks he's in love with Monica after having a romantic dream with her. He believes he needs to start a romantic relationship with one of his friends, and he sees Rachel before Phoebe, so he hits on her, and again, her reaction is totally negative; - On the episode Joey finds out Rachel is pregnant, he proposes to her, and her reaction, again, is negative (although, not embarassing, this time); There are other times that kind of thing happened, and they showed 0 chemistry. So... IMO, Joey's feelings for Rachel make sense, because they didn't appear suddenly out of nowhere, and Joey pretty much never rejected Rachel before that. All their sexual or "romantic" interactions until Season 8 started from him, what means he did see her a possible love (or pure sexual) interest at the very least. However Rachel's feelings for Joey seem totally unconvincing to me. She actively rejected him a bunch of time through the series, sometimes even with some contempt. Always felt like she wouldn't ever see him as her love interest. I think that some sexual attraction between them could be somewhat believable. But... love? Romance? No way.

[@mfflscotty2095]

@@Marie-vg5og this is some bad fan fiction

[@senoritalethargy]

I used to love friends and watch it all the time and then I watched it one time when I was high and realised I could physically see them acting and now I can’t watch it without seeing it.

[@urmisharma8360]

I actually love Ross. His anger and over exaggerated reactions show how good of an actor schwimmer is.

[@run4508]

His character is trash tho , David shwimmer is the only reason Ross is tolerable

[@FrancisR420]

How can overexaggerated reactions be good acting? over literally means too much which means not the right amount.

[@RheemQ]

@@run4508 All the characters are trash except Chandler and Gunther.

[@Arms1234]

Ross and Rachel never had anything in common.

[@irine_elle]

The Joey spin-off wasn't that bad and I will die on that hill Edit: Nevermind, I watched it a long time ago and your video reminded me of the clusterfuck that it was.

[@dabson547]

i also thought friends never died and they were on a break

[@Doknot-tb9ey]

Good one.

[@jasonfire3434]

Ross was my favorite character and I definitely identify most with him. The thing is, in real life if the Ross/Rachel situation happens there is NO way the group of six sticks together at all. So in a way the R/R breakup (or possibly the relationship in the first place) hurt the series.

[@antigonepc]

I hated the fact that after Ross and Rachel broke up that Rachel never had a significant relationship after. Ross dated a ton of women and even got married, but Rachel really just stayed single, aside from a few short flings. I mean, she was gorgeous, it wouldn't be hard for her to get a date, yet she remained single, as if the writers were holding her in stasis for her reunion with Ross. Kinda insulting to the character.

[@twentysvn]

This show is iconic. The writing, chemistry and humor was amazing.

[@biggusdickus8281]

Gotta love the "if you are a children... Then piss off"

[@noakesy316]

If I remember correctly, that is the legend Chris Morris on Brass Eye

[@VI_V2]

@@noakesy316 I think my American might be showing because I have no idea what that is.

[@noakesy316]

@@VI_V2 dude, you would love it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Zp3Le2aPf9CZmck

[@sumanchhetri1809]

N the children obey

[@biggusdickus8281]

@@VI_V2 don't worry, I don't either

[@JetblackJay]

The day Cheers died ?

[@trinaq]

Agreed, arguably "Frasier" as well, or maybe both went on for far too long. 😞

[@joylindadichamounix]

Maybe season 8?

[@porsche911sbs]

When Diane left the show?

[@13AndreFalcao666]

The thing I don't get with the fanrage over joey and rachel is this: "They are strictly platonic" Well... No. If Ross can win Rachel over after almost a decade after high-school is finished, then Joey and Rachel can find they have grown into a good couple over eight years. It works because, yes they are both beautiful, but they fall over their personalities. They dodge it because they are afraid of what it can do to their friendship. And, as most people tend to believe you can't be friends with you ex, I find that a very compelling argument to resist being together. But then the same people say "Their break-up is forced" Well, it's not a break-up. They remain in platonic love. The ideal love where you would do anything for the other. Friendship. They can't be more than friends, because they feel like family. To me, it always felt like Joey ending up with Rachel would be far better than her ending up with that psycho bastard of a failed paleontologist.

[@andreacigala2709]

But what did making them a couple add to their relationship? I think they were already developing a wonderful relationship, call it "platonic love", call it friendship, it's a form of love. There's a stereotype that a straight man and a straight woman can't be truly friends without ending up wanting for "more", assuming friendship is something inferior. I think Joey and Rachel were wonderfully breaking that stereotype (coming from no less than a casanova and a femme fatale!). But then the writers decided to come up with that BS of them "falling in love", which was super forced and super unnecessary, and it fell back into the stereotype. They decided to scrap it at the end (I think after negative fan reaction) but they shouldn't have started it in the first place.

[@13AndreFalcao666]

@@andreacigala2709 Yes, because neither monica or phoebee are great friends with joey. People didn't like it, but it's not badly written. Also, Joey has millions of times the character Ross does, Rachel would be better off. It's not because you are friends that you can't be something else. It's also not because you are friends you have to be something else.

[@andreacigala2709]

@@13AndreFalcao666 it felt forced as a romantic relationship, not very believable, and the fact that so many people didn't find it believable kind of proves it. Not to mention that "wooops I just happened to be on my knee with an engagement ring in an open box in my hand just in front of you" moment.

[@Noah_ol11]

Porque não fazia sentido Joey e Rachel ficarem juntos , o que eles tiveram em 10 anos na série ? Nunca tiveram sentimentos um pelo outro , ou química , ou sentido , ou conexão romântica ,eles não acrescentaram nada na série , enquanto por outro lado o normal era vê Rachel com a história complicada dele a com Ross e isso fornecia muitos momentos na série , memo sendo tóxico , se Rachel e Joey tivessem terminados juntos seria uma desgraça , com ou sem Ross na jogada.

[@periachi4961]

I only got mad at the writers when joey dated rachel and when Ross moved to Paris with rachel. Sure he loved her but he didn't want to move to London with Emily due to his son but now he doesnt give a fuck about his son? I still get confused about that

[@mccarthy5825]

I got into friends around 1997. So yeah a 13 year old bloke from Dublin probably wasn't the target demographic. But Rte2 played episodes first, even quicker than the UK. It was an enjoyable Tuesday night ritual. Tons of my friends, male and female loved friends. But every point here about the decline is absolutely spot on. Friends is a show I can put on in background. Can put on waiting for something to download, cooking food, hungover on couch... All the 90s episodes are brilliant with a peak 98-00.the UK episodes, start of Monica and Chandler, Pheobe and babies etc... Absolute perfection. But between the boiling down of personalities and the really outlandish plots... The ridiculous Rachel and Joey thing... I hardly ever go past the 01 season (we have em on Netflix) I am actually more disappointed that the 'reunion' is not an episode. I reckon now is the PERFECT time for one. Have a 2 & 1/2 hour runtime broken into four episodes, get the best of the writers, get meta and poke fun at the kind of shit Honest Trailers talked about...it would be an absolute home run, out of the park banger.

[@PaulieAFantoneJays19]

She wanted to start a family w/ Brad Pitt huh?... Well I wonder how that turned out for Jenn

[@teehee1987]

Lol

[@renge5589]

Aw c'mon, lay off her😳😒

[@davincent98]

To describe the Friends fandom about Joey So no one told you life was gonna be this way 👏👏👏👏 Your job's a joke, you're broke Your spin-off's D.O.A It's like you're always stuck in second gear When it hasn't been your day, your week, your month Or even your year, but I'll be there for you (When the rain starts to pour) I'll be there for you (Like I've been there before) I'll be there for you ('Cause you're there for me too)

[@yashmjj]

YESSS! Finally someone who agrees Joey should have ended up with Phoebe... God does that feel good

[@colinoswald2]

Two things 1. Ross became my favorite only after binge-watching. Not because of his actions but because of his reactions. I’m giggling now just thinking about him. Monica went from #1 to #6 - same reason. Can’t watch her more than once. 2. You’re right - they WERE ON A BREAK:)

[@enenenergp]

Huh, Ross tanning is a classic for me, guess cos I’m younger I’ve been exposed to the later episodes more or something.

[@nameless5413]

Speaking of 90S: Dharma & Greg, Lois and Clark could be interesting things to look at.

[@noakesy316]

Lois and Clark? OMG I'd forgotten about that one

[@davidbrian8336]

Saved by the Bell 👍

[@virces6563]

Dharma & Greg is my fav forever

[@nameless5413]

@@virces6563 Remember when Larry tried to "FIX" Dharma and Greg's house? (after Abby kicked him out for eating meat, also she occasionally dropped by for sex with Larry... because why should bodies suffer for sins of mind?)

[@noslost-z7r]

I thought Joey and Rachel was great character development for Joey - I wouldn’t have missed it for it. The thing that kept annoying me was Ross not letting Rachel move on when Rachel seemingly just needs to suck it whenever Ross announces a new fling.

[@jaysonpressley8642]

The day Married with Children died.

[@MrBird2007]

I would be curious to watch that one

[@marvinklatt4762]

For me it was when the child seven or so entered the show. I just hated him the first episode

[@MrBird2007]

@@marvinklatt4762 he added absolutely nothing to the story

[@faz6877]

That's easy, when Seven joined the show!

[@joylindadichamounix]

I LOVE MWC but it too went on too long. Jefferson was really funny but the plots got very implausible. It seemed more realistic when Steve was on.

[@Baileybobb]

I'm the biggest friends fan ever and I LOVE JOEY and RACHEL because she deserves someone wonderful and Joey is the sweetest! He deserved better than how the show ended

[@tavastian3288]

David Schwimmer is an amazing actor and to me at least it was often his performance and my everlasting crush to Courtney Cox that made me watch the show. I mean, yeah Ross as a character is total tool, but David's acting was so point and still is in any role he is (just watch the Band of Brothers) He literally becomes the character, he doesnt just "act".

[@wtfigabor]

to be fair, Joey regularly mentioned his friends in season 1, and while he was still his fun-loving care-free, albeit a bit less effective womanizer self, when he struggled (and probably this is why they wrote him to struggle), it was always linked with the big change in his life, losing his 5 best friends. if I'm not mistaken, he straight up says he's all alone now, in a depressive manner. sure, it wasn't Friends, but I feel like people treat it like they treat Sunset 60; they mis-categorize it, then they blame the show it's not what it supposed to be. both was, the fans just didn't really cared to get it beyond 'it's not like that other show it has barely any relation to'. then again, while we live in Peak TV, there are so many unwatchable shit sitcoms, maybe that's why I rate Joey higher than most people who watched it 'live'.

[@ArthurTorrias]

No. They weren't on a break. In the beginning of ep 16 of s03; rachel tells monica, "No, we kinda broke up instead." So no they were never on a break. The relationship was also over for ross the moment he slammed the bar phone on rachel. So no he did not cheat on her either.

[@ArthurTorrias]

@@xWriterclarenocturnexx True, but put yourself in Ross' shoes. He was drunk and he was convinced rachel had been cheating on him with mark.

[@ArthurTorrias]

@kibblewibble Did you not watch the show? Up to that point of the show, ross had been extremely jealous and paranoid of mark, and hearing his voice in the background during the call cemented his beliefs that rachel was cheating on him.

[@ArthurTorrias]

@@xWriterclarenocturnexx I agree, I sympathized with ross, he developed insane trust issues because of carol, but I understood that he went overboard.

[@russcastella]

Matt was great in "The Episodes" Love that show

[@mariehelene6872]

I'm that one weird friends fan that shipped Joey and Rachel.

[@phillipasoocinnamonroll4812]

Marie Helene me too

[@samantaolaya7902]

Same here

[@andreamolinar6883]

I think that Rachel would have been so much happier if she’d ended up with him🤷🏻‍♀️

[@angelbait5]

i loved their relationship while it lasted🥺

[@sahilpal1058]

Lol. Whoever ships Joey and Rachel has some screw loose with them or something. Like... Howw.. What about them makes sense? Is it because you have experienced it for yourself where you wanted to date your best friend's ex? That's just.. Wrong.

[@BensyBens]

I would like to see “the day that community died” even everybody known it’s because rick & morty

[@xplorethings]

it never lived to begin with it died in the first episode

[@magnusprime962]

No, it died because Dan Harmon got fired after Season 3, and many of the writers and the Russo Brothers left with him. Then when he got rehired for Season 5 Donald Glover left, and losing Troy killed the momentum. Granted, the show was still good afterwards, but it never reached the highs of the first three seasons.

[@CoolGuyMeWWESupercard]

I'm in utter disbelief about this ross situation, fantastic character yes they change him a lot from first couple of seasons onwards but doesn't take away from how funny he is and i personally find very likable as he's a goof almost prefer that to the responsible/shy character he was at first. Ross is such a key part in so many memorable episodes, and David's acting carries him through any writers mistakes.

[@funnytime1111]

I remember being 10 years old and watching the series finally live on TV, I don’t even think DVR was a thing yet

[@johnsnow04]

Friends get too much undeserved hte today. It has really gone out on high note (unlike HIMYM or BBT) and humor sticks to this day. Most of complaints I saw comes from younger people who didnt got used to that humor(it was 90s most of them were not even born) or complain how its not progressive enough (while featuring Ross lesbian wife and while forgetting nobody cared about that kind of stuff in 90s where character could kill somebody in one episode and nobody would care in next episode).

[@Dilmahkana]

Yeah, people are also spoilt with prestige TV these days. TV was so different 10+ years ago. People have an emotional attachment to these older characters and shows; in general, TV shows and movies aren't just a puzzle that's supposed to fit together perfectly or totally rational/realism based. Continuity issues are not a legit critique when it comes to over 150 episodes unless it seriously breaks plot and the world built. And they're not supposed to be nitpicked, a larger problem seen so much these days.

[@agamaz5650]

what is himym lol

[@okkRupi]

@@agamaz5650 How I met your mother wuts bbt

[@christiankarlkarganilla2763]

Chandler may be the least affected of the 'Flanderization' but his character quickly took a dive when he got married to Monica, he made less jokes and most of the jokes he made was plain childish.

[@Sofia-jw6wj]

Rachel would be SO much happier with Joey The two of them not working out was rushed and made no sense

[@mfflscotty2095]

She was happier because the plot demanded it. She was always going to end up with Ross

[@Vraiment66]

I made a Phoebe Necklace inspired on the dinner she had in Barbados with Mike. It was beautiful 🥰🥰🥰.

[@alyssagentner4601]

no no no, i’ve seen friends probably around 50 times through. IM NOT JOKING. AND I LOVED JOEY AND RACHEL TOGETHER i thought it was actually funny and ik they weren’t going to end up together i just thought it was actually really funny so i loved them together

[@hessu275]

Ross is definitely a trainwreck but he's still my favorite character of them

[@spenser9908]

Plus he's responsible for possibly the all-time funniest Friends moment - when he's pretending to watch TV.

[@yingyang2838]

he's so chaotic. Once they turned him into a clown who was not always obsessing over Rachel I couldn't get enough of him

[@JudgeDrey]

I'm new to this chan, and I think it's pretty good. Good insight...etc. Pretty funny...etc. One thing I've realized in my 48 years (yes I'm a dinosaur), is that after watching shows like Seinfeld, Fresh Prince, Friends, 70's Show, Big Bang,, Corner Gas, My Name is Earl and Raising Hope more than 5 and some like up to 20 times in their entirety, I've come to realize that my feelings and opinions of characters and storylines..etc, CHANGES ALL THE TIME! It's something that has amazed me over and over how I could despise a certain character for 3 or 4 viewings of a series and then start to LOVE them all of a sudden. And then vice versa for another character that I loved, then grew to hate, then love/hate again, again and again. (Except for the original Laurie (RIP) from That 70's Show. Never been able to stand her in 20+ viewings of that series. And YES I know I need a life.) Once again, great videos! Keep up the good work. EDIT: One more thing I've come to accept instead of harbouring so much hatred for an imaginary person is the realization that writers...etc are fallible. Human, like us. (And SOME KZbinrs. lol) Not everything is going to be gold.

[@bhavikkumarvasava640]

It was David Schwimmer who carried out the show.

[@tanyakasim3988]

Agreed. David Schwimmer's physical comedy made me laugh.

[@oifelixcomeherebroe3831]

i agree. David schwimmer was the best among them. Matthew Perry and Lisa Kudrow are a close second

[@WoodysAR]

Should have done a Joey, Phoebe and Marcel roomate show...

[@jonagro558]

Congrats on 50 thousand subscribers man I remember when you only had 7 thousand subscribers and it was barely growing good shit my guy and I hope your staying safe at home god bless you bro 🙏💯

[@saraindhaus]

I completely agree about the Joey and Rachel thing. I mean, he lived with her and they spent a bunch of time hanging out together already ,but then they go out on one date and he suddenly falls in love? Ok, it's sweet cause it gave his character some depth, but just doesnt add up. Also the Joey not having money think, it always always bugged me how he never paid Chandler off. And its stupid that once Emma came into the picture, Ben dissappeared. And Rachel and Ross... I dont even know where to start. I mean, he says her name at the altar, she tells him she loves him, but he suddenly doesnt wanna be with her? Then is later jealous but then still admits to Joey he doesnt love her like that anymore, but when she has to move away, then he does? Come on. All in all, great show, but a bunch of stuff doesnt add up

[@thomaspeputofules8471]

The thing about Joey...I know people who have constantly gotten dumber and dumber as they got older. So it's not really that unrealistic.

[@joylindadichamounix]

It died after season 5. It should have NEVER been on for 10 years.

[@no1u521]

Disagree. 6 is a great season. 7 had the strongest b plots and memorable storylines. 8 and 9 are entertaining as well. It's just season 10 that is eh ,most episodes are long and show got serious.

[@randomdude_2000]

I love friends and have probably seen every episode at least 10 times, perfect sitcom and had a great ending.

[@anadaisy6604]

I thought joeys crush on Rachel was cute but of course Rachel’s crush on Joey was kinda gross and l felt for her it was more lustful feelings than romantic feeling

[@TracieTragic85]

Friends is the only show I can watch over and over and laugh at it like the first time I saw the episodes. Not a bad season or episode in my eyes. And Ross is my fave character 👍🏼

[@mccarthy5825]

Some of the later episodes are a bit janky and annoying. But first 5 seasons are absolutely PERFECT. I would watch new episodes on Irish TV every Tuesday and I got into it when Ross met Emily. I would watch older episodes on Friday nights to catch up. I can still put it on today and enjoy it. Recently I was in a hotel in the UK and even though I had WiFi and my tablet... I was flicking through tv...landed on 2 hrs of Friends.... Sorted! 😂 Seen em a million times but... Ross has so many great moments... From the sandwich and him on Valium eating candyfloss(cotton candy to my American friends!) and then the GET OFF MY SISTER... Or when he wears the leather trousers and can't get them back up! 😂 Or the whole dance with Monica... Or when he is getting his keyboard out for his music, Chandler with his Flock of Seagulls(a New Romantic band from Liverpool in the 80s)haircut... Even his shtick with Bruce Willis is pretty good...and I will always like the Marcel thing too I really wished they did a proper reunion and I was very prepared to believe that they could have settled down because under it all... I do like how Ross always has loved Rachel and vice versa. At the end it sort of seemed like they grew up and, while he didn't make it as a dancer, he did make it with Rachel...

[@siddiquenadir44]

Gunther! , I almost forgot he even existed like everyone.

[@WreckInSilenceRecords]

Hey!! Really enjoy your channel and retrospectives! One criticism i have though, friends has been remastered in HD for well over 10 years now, so why did you use the low quality SD footage? I understand for the Joey show, but for friends? It's kind of hard to watch on my TV with all the blur and pixelation. But your content in general is great!! I started doing my own reviews partially because of your work. Happy holidays!!

[@daphhelfenstein5810]

I remember them saying all the flashback episodes were because of Mathew Perry's alcoholism