THE DAY THAT 70S SHOW DIED

Let's take a look back at the day everybody's favorite 90s show set in the 70s went off the rails and jumped the shark. Season 8.
From the unexpected and unwanted pairing of Fez and Jackie, losing Topher Grace, and of course the arrival of Randy --- just to name a few.
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[@DwideShrude]

If Hyde and Jackie ended up together I could’ve tolerated the last season. And honestly I felt like Donna’s affection for Randy felt forced and had no chemistry at all. They built her as a strong independent woman throughout the show who didn’t need to be with a man despite dating Eric long term. Jumping to the next guy immediately after Eric dumped her, just cause he had a few similarities to Eric, was so out of character. They really watered her down until she was a less cool version of herself.

[@ericthomas917]

Breanna they could have just had her talk to Eric on the phone sometimes. That would have been better than her and Randy.

[@AnneettaLife]

Yeah, Jackie and Hyde should hv ended up together. And Donna was the worst. She was a terrible feminist and she never tried to be alone and not have a boyfriend. She went for Eric, to Casey Kelso, to Eric again, to Randy and to Eric again.

[@crimeminister7391]

Because “strong independent women” dont exist. Didnt you get the point of the show?

[@crimeminister7391]

@Skuggi Kuwa that is what people like you go to right away: comparison. you always compare yourselves to someone else, someone greater, and you think everyone else does so aswell. It is not a good way to analyse the world. In retrospect, feminism does the same. They compare themselves to men. If you are a ``strong independant women`` you will quickly realise that you have wasted your time trying to pretend you are something you are not. But, you are probably the type that envies the ``strong independant woman`` type. Whether you are male or female. Only you fail to realise that, at least sooner or later, they all, in fact, cry in the shower.

[@crimeminister7391]

@Skuggi Kuwa Read again what I wrote buddy. I never assumed your gender neither did I say you are a feminist. I said you are thinking like a feminist. its called deductive logic, if you didnt know..

[@PabloCruise91]

The fact that Eric left and they’re still at HIS HOUSE is the most ridiculous aspect of this season

[@thomasraines1396]

PabloCruise91 Hyde was pretty much the Formans’ adopted son so that could’ve been the in universe explanation.

[@brytonup1551]

PabloCruise91 bruh Donna kissed randy I’m Eric’s room, on his car and I think basement

[@ADTYG02]

@@brytonup1551 yeah that’s a yikes bruh

[@andreshead25]

I’ve never thought about it like that

[@PKLO9727]

LOLOL

[@angel_in-black]

Well, good news is everyone feels the same as you, I even think a writer of seasons 1-7 said in an interview that season 8 was an alternate universe to him. Least the majority of the show is good and most of the internet have come up with basically the same alternate ending than season 8. Eric and Donna get married, Hyde and Jackie too, Kelso ends up with his daughter’s mom, and Fez ends up with someone who makes him happy. It’s always a good feeling to know that the majority of ppl feel the same way about something you despise.

[@feraflauna3238]

+Lone Rider-I'm one of the people who actually despises seasons five-eight. Seasons five-seven was a slow burn of misery. Season eight was just the free fall of it. I never got on board with Jackie and Hyde and I hated that they turned Kelso into a 1D cartoon version of himself (which includes knocking up someone and being allowed not to take full responsibility for something that big.) So in my eyes, most of seasons five-eight never should've happened anyway. I hate the majority of the storytelling decisions they made for the last half of the series. But if you want to stick to the whole canon of the series, you would stick to what you mentioned. Eric and Donna getting married would be a given. Eric wouldn't have stood her up on their own wedding day, that whole unpleasant war with Red over the wedding never should've happened either (which is why Eric and Donna were forced to rush their wedding in the first place), but after they proposed, they agreed their wedding wouldn't be until at least after college. When Donna is well into her career and Eric finally figures out what he wants to do. They all should've went to college. That would've been something new and unique. Kelso may still have met the "mother" but he found someone mature and loving enough to put up with him but stubborn enough to make him a better person, something Jackie never could do. Either he got back with Jackie where Jackie and Hyde never happened or they commit to Jackie and Hyde where Hyde agrees to marry her. Hyde reconciles with his actual birth father from the first few seasons and resolves to be a better dad himself. To have a life and career. Fez matures. Nina's breakup with him is a whole lot less dickish. They just agree they weren't right for each other. And he does find someone that makes him happy. A new woman. Kitty and Red move out of their house and decide to go live quietly and comfortably in retirement. Red would struggle with it and be bored out of his mind but he and Eric would develop a better bond where Red resolves he wants to have a better open relationship with his son for the rest of his life. Especially whenever the grandkids come around. He wakes up and realizes how evil Laurie is where he stops coddling her. Laurie gets her just desserts. And the series ends not exactly where it began but where everyone is on a new path and new directions heading into the 1980s.

[@angel_in-black]

Fera Flauna Interesting! I personally liked where the show went up til about the end of season six. Eric shouldn’t have did what he did to Donna on their wedding and they should’ve shown them as an actual married couple, that’d have been great character development. I am true shipper of Hyde and Jackie, and think their relationship was the best and loved seeing it’s progression. Hyde really acted likes the anchor Jackie needed and Jackie managed to chip away at the hard exterior Hyde had and showed his soft side. The two made each other better people, if they didn’t date each other, they’d have turned into worse versions of themselves which actually happened in season 8, and why most ppl hate that season. Kelso held the show together with his comedy and I feel like his relationship with Jackie needed to run its course to show that there’s more to a relationship than being attracted to each other. That being said, giving him a responsibility was the way to go, to show him that life isn’t all fun and games. Fez, ok you can hate me for saying this but I feel like the show didn’t need him. Most of the time he’s either saying something embarrassingly stupid or failing to have anything good happen to him, and I didn’t find it funny or build any connection to him. I don’t hate him, I just feel like he was unnecessary since we have Kelso as the comedic relief. I didn’t really care about Laurie, I’m kinda glad they dropped her. I like your interpretation! But most ppl I know and seen on the internet feel the same way I do and pretend like season 8 never happened and the couples I mentioned end up together.

[@feraflauna3238]

@@angel_in-black No, I get why people view Fez as extremely annoying. He can often be extremely one note but in the early seasons, there was a charming, almost pure innocence to him. He was very sweet and a kind hearted person. Having him finally lose his virginity to someone he loved and cared for, that was one of the decisions in the later seasons I really liked. If they went anywhere with it and had Fez build that relationship, and move past his puppy dog crushes and lusting and learn what a mature relationship is. But Nina screwed him over in the worst way possible and they basically turned him into a hornier slut than he ever was. Someone unwilling to stay committed to anyone for any reason, sinking into even more toxic relationships that never go anywhere, and cements his floozy lifestyle until he randomly decides he has feelings for Jackie. Someone he clearly didn't ever any true feelings for and at that point in the series, realized all his feelings for her was just a puppy dog crush and nothing more. They kept on circle jerking around with Fez all the time between his slutiness and falling for the wrong women all over again and he just wasn't likable at all at a certain point. Not only was the relationship with Jackie out of nowhere and unbelievably forced, they were such rotten people at that point in the series, you just didn't care about either one of them. And I'm sorry but I never got on board with Jackie and Hyde. The idea is there and it could've been something very sweet if it was set up properly and wasn't just thrown in there. And Jackie and Hyde got together off screen between seasons because they were bored and horny at the time. After Hyde made it perfectly clear he wasn't remotely interested in Jackie before and he didn't even see her as a good friend. I think if they slowly built up that relationship, I would've warmed to it a lot more. And if they didn't insist on the hair-pulling, "Who's Jackie going to choose: Hyde or Kelso?" I DESPISE love triangles and always did even back then.There was no point to doing that, it was unnecessary, and it is infuriating that they dragged it on for so long just to unceremoniously drop it. Kelso being incensed about finding out about Jackie and Hyde's relationship was understandable. I actually liked a lot of that where he was left devastated, betrayed by his best friend and the woman he still had feelings for. And he wasn't mature enough to handle that Jackie had moved on. It was touching when Hyde offered Kelso to punch him in the face for Kelso to get all his anger out and Kelso refused to do it because Hyde was still his friend, he was just hurt. I think that was where it really needed to end right then and there. Jackie telling him that she moved on, Kelso would learn to accept it, no matter how difficult it is, and learn to be a more mature person willing to have a stable, healthy relationship with someone else. To give someone the relationship he never could give Jackie. He would always love her but accepted that he didn't treat her well and he lost his chance with her. If the show handled the characters far better than it did in the later seasons, a lot of this wouldn't have been a problem, or as much of a problem to me. But things like this were done just because the writers got bored and couldn't think of anything better. Some of the ideas are solid: Hyde willing to shave his beard to show Jackie he loved her because he sucked at saying it was genuinely touching. Donna and Eric finally engaged was something that really needed to happen in the series. It just shouldn't have done largely the way they did it. And that's really my problem with seasons five-seven. Some good ideas that weren't done properly and a lot of decisions that never should've been made. The ball finally dropped in season eight but honestly, in my eyes, for the first three seasons before that, it was clear the writers didn't really know what they were doing.

[@garyhatmaker6589]

"Randy doesn't count! We'll get to him later!" *literally lol*

[@domonicpratt4782]

Leo being a veteran isn’t a retcon it was established when we first meet him. Or at least around that time in the photo hut. He made a comment about fleets and then said he thinks he might have actually been in the Navy!

[@TheLhicks26]

They where playing battleship

[@kyriss12]

It’s also not that much of a stretch. A lot of veterans came out if Vietnam with serous issues.

[@vovin8132]

@@kyriss12 Yeah they had better dope when they were in Nam

[@ghosturiel]

@@vovin8132 But that Nam Grass can do weird stuff to your face

[@kevnwilson2124]

Also in midge and bobs vows it was established

[@Rensune]

It makes sense that someone (especially younger people) would lose their accent after living in a place for years

[@anakinnotvader]

Rensune I have personal experience with that.

[@lamarfinesse8753]

Eh not when you're high school age.

[@paolachavez499]

LaMar Finesse that why he’s says when your “younger” your prone to lose the accent completely

[@lamarfinesse8753]

@@paolachavez499 i know that. I was referring to the one who posted the starting comment above.

[@okshutul8481]

LaMar Finesse My Scottish aunt moved to America when she was 21 and she is now 33 and barely has her accent. So yeah I’d say it’s pretty possible for high school students aswell. 🕺🏻

[@jayyeu917]

“randy is like the jarjarbinks of the series “ you sir have earned my sub

[@stephenwilliams3569]

The season 8 "writers" should be ashamed of themselves. Truly awful.

[@thisguyhere6641]

Damn right they should be ashamed of themselves! Season 8 of That '70s Show was truly awfuble!

[@tmanokc]

FTR, the writers of Season 8 were, for the most part, the writers who had been there since the earlier seasons (only three of the writers in Season 8 had joined during the later seasons). Creators Bonnie Turner, Terry Turner and Mark Brazill stepped down in Season 7 (Bonnie left entirely before returning as an executive consultant alongside the other two in Season 8), passed on the showrunner reins to Jackie and Jeff Filgo (who had been there since Episode 2), only for them to pass the reins to Rob DesHotel, Dean Batali (both joined in Season 2) and Mark Hudis (also an original staff writer) for Season 8. Basically, the creators were the creative glue that held “That ‘70s Show” together as Eric and Kelso were the glue that held the main characters together.

[@jimpcl]

@@tmanokc yeah but they failed miserably to make a coherent season. It was like they were just throwing darts at a board and forming episodes based on what it landed on. "Who hasn't Jackie slept with yet?? Fez! Sure that makes sense!!!" Don't even get me started on the Shoe-Horning of Randy.

[@giovanalaurence]

When Jackie and Hyde broke up. *PERIODT.*

[@meowmeow3163]

honestly, they should've just ended the show after season 6 once they all graduated, but donna and eric actually got married. and while i agree with everyone saying hyde and jackie should've ended up an item, I think the biggest mistake was f*cking over eric and donna.

[@MrParkerman6]

Yes! The last one with The Real Laurie Where they go camping should have been an hour long and the finale.

[@xmidnightx2520]

Exactly

[@melinacogorno3103]

exactly, that was the worst mistake. as of season 7, the series goes into decline and they forget the essence of all the characters, and above all, they destroy the relationship between eric and donna, which was the only true and pure thing in the series. after season 7 it is as if they were others. they ruined them both as characters and as a couple. so much rage.

[@melinacogorno3103]

finally someone says what is really true. thank you

[@chuckyDLuffy]

SO TRUE!!! ugh their dynamic was so fun to watch it had the awkwardness of an actual relationship at some points

[@DN_Merchant]

I mean it's plausible that Fez's accent is kinda gone by season 8. He'd been living in the US for a good minute... soo it's not that unbelievable

[@stefanfilipovits21]

Can confirm. An entire half of my family are immigrants from Hungary. My one cousin came here in her mid 20’s in 2004. Now? She sounds like an american. People do indeed lose their native accents when living in a different country for years.

[@AntonioCardenasT]

@@stefanfilipovits21 that 70s show takes place over 3-4 years, not long enough to lose an accent.

[@adrianaguilar7017]

@@AntonioCardenasT he didn’t lose the accent though, in 3-4 years being in the US will change your accent usually if young

[@tarantinoking1220]

They changed his accent all the time so you couldn’t figure out where’s he’s from.

[@Ivanmaradonaaa]

@@AntonioCardenasT yeah it's long enough for some people,

[@johnenigma8506]

They need to get Topher Grace to watch Season 8 of That 70s Show. I just want to see how he would react to it. This needs to happen. I have spoken.

[@feraflauna3238]

I don't think he'd be very happy about how the show became a circlejerk of absolute misery and what they did to Eric in the final season. That was the reason he left in the first place-he wasn't being treated very well on the show (he just often got pushed to the side and about the only friend he had in his final seasons was Laura Prepon allegedly), and he said that there was nowhere left to go for Eric. (Not to mention how they absolutely destroyed Eric.) So he just wanted out. It wasn't an issue about money, he never got into a fight with anyone, he just wasn't being treated with proper respect and he hated what they were doing with his character. Allegedly, he was so uncomfortable with coming back for the finale that he got out of there as fast as he could. If that's true, they really didn't treat him right for that to even happen. I don't know how much people have asked Grace about how he felt about the show after he left, but it's probably not a topic he likes talking about very much. He doesn't really seem to talk about That 70s Show very much anymore either. So if he had to watch the last season, I'd think he'd be extremely sad and even more heartbroken.

[@heatherhillman1]

JohnEnigma Why torture the poor guy? It wasn't Grace's fault they chose to continue the show without him.

[@johnenigma8506]

@@heatherhillman1 I just would love to hear from his perspective.

[@xRanAngel]

18:45 Aaaaawwww Kitty Catnip! 😻 For some reason this sentence sounded so darn cute to me! 😋

[@GOGIANTS1091]

S1, S2 - Freakin Hilarious and great 3, 4 - Great 5 - good 6, 7 - meh 8 - eek Love this show though

[@mistqlette4037]

Sal Scalici personally i found season 5 to be just as great as seasons 1 and 2 because jackie and hyde and the slight dynamic change of the show, which was really good and i thought the episodes storylines were also great. oh and donna and eric should’ve gotten married in season 6 and should’ve gotten an apartment. and you know jackie and hyde, i think hyde should’ve just moved to chicago with jackie and either find a job or take another record store since his dad owns branches, and she wouldn’t have to give up her future for him neither would he have the guilt of making her stay for him. i also like brooke and kelso together, and my favorite fez + girl was definitely nina i thought she was the healthiest relationship for him.

[@thisguyhere6641]

Me too!

[@Bear-er6xb]

Season 7 only felt different just because they were showing more adult life rather then high school life which is what we were all used to

[@SpeaksHistory]

The day that “That 70s show” died was 1980, don’t @ me

[@aaronsarchive82]

There was an episode where Red banned the other kids from the basement. Kitty missed them and made him change his mind. That was my reasoning for why they all show up back at their house in this season.

[@hentikong6549]

Binging this show for the first time and making it to season 8 was an experience that may never be replicated again

[@EDifyer881]

Season 8 was atrocious it never should have existed

[@FlyingShadow11]

there are still things to still love about the last 2 seasons. the drive thru clown was highly memorable and hilarious

[@FirestarHart]

I might be the only one that actually liked That ‘70s Show in its entirety, but I can say that I liked Season 8 the least. I do hear that they’d be down for either a reunion show or even a That ‘70s Movie before it’s too late. Considering Laurie was recast (Rest in Peace, Lisa Robin Kelly), that could open the bridge for Laurie to still be there. I think that seeing this come to as a movie would open up to a fair and good time, and also maybe bring about a fair closure to it all, because all good things must eventually come to an end. It’s sad, but true. At least we get to watch it still and even binge it as many times as we want, and enjoy the good times of one of the absolute best sitcoms to ever exist.

[@fr33bird7891]

I feel the same way. Yes season 8 was different but that's because 2 actors stepped away and added 1 new main character and several side characters.

[@boratsagdiyev1586]

Hyde with the predator-mustache was predictive-programming !!!

[@fusionspace175]

Does anyone else even remember That 80s Show they tried to follow it with? It was stillborn.

[@JB-1138]

DOA.

[@fusionspace175]

@@JB-1138 Thing is, nostalgia being the way it is, if you got the right cast of young actors together, I bet you could make it work now.

[@wavydavy657]

fez’s accent not being as strong towards the end is part of the character development if anything obviously the longer he spends in america the better he’ll speak the language

[@stefanfilipovits21]

Can confirm. An entire half of my family are immigrants for Hungary. Most have lost their accents entirely. The longer you live in a foreign nation and speak a foreign language the more you lose your native accent.

[@veronicamars4124]

I enjoyed this video----but then I LOVED it the second you mentioned Wesley Wyndam-Pryce from BTVS/Angel. Wesley is my favorite fictional character of all time. I really love seeing that character get that sort of love and recognition.

[@nubworthycigars6682]

You’re obviously on the young side.. I think some people didn’t like the ending of the Sopranos, but there’s no consensus about the last season being bad.. people literally complain about how the last scene itself, of the entire amazing series, ends with a question. It’s amazing. Watch it.

[@goodiesguy]

I've watched That 70's Show many times over, but I can never get to the end of that final Season, it's just so bad.

[@palaceofwisdom9448]

When Donna dumped Eric in favor of Casey Kelso, then tried to use him as an emotional tampon after getting her comeuppance, I despised her and never wanted the two back together. Bad writing notwithstanding, Eric was right not to marry her.

[@girlygal58]

The season 7 Hyde mustache was of the time/era imo

[@TreySarver]

Don't sweat Game of Thrones. People only hate the last season because Dany turned heel (which was very obvious from the pilot that was gonna happen). People hate it because the actress is adorable. That's it, that's the entirety of the GoT hate.

[@zachschmitt3654]

The finale of the series was really good!!! But the rest of the season was rough

[@Cleomatters]

The show never died, it just had a bad season. Show will live on forever

[@thefurrybastard1964]

I was 6 in 1970, Red Forman was almost a clone of my Dad, so it won me over from the first second.

[@frisianmouve]

Did you get lots of feet in your ass?

[@mr.incognitoyt2235]

@@frisianmouve *Maybe he did...maybe he didn`t...*

[@pillsburydoughboy1666]

@@frisianmouve well if your a girl just to let u know a foot aint going in there

[@dragonslayerbigpimpcumdriz9512]

“I’ve never even seen the sopranos” my respect for you as a person 📈📈📈📈

[@well-dressed-bird]

I think Eric is an underrated character and it shows exactly how necessary he was in this season. I wonder how much the season would have been written differently if he wouldn't have left.

[@agathepompon5921]

Is he really? I always found him the funniest.

[@davemac9563]

He’s my favorite and the most relatable character of the show. He kept the show grounded imo. It felt empty without him in season 8

[@audhumbla6927]

I agree that he is very needed, he is not my favourite but he is the glue for sure

[@enigmalfidelity]

From what i've read over the years, Topher didn't get along with Ashton OR Danny Masterson. Couple years later, its discovered why. Masterson is evil, and the cast KNEW of his abuse, yet stayed for "the money". As bad as Spiderman 3 was, I'm glad topher got a chance to broaden his career.

[@zionix15432]

@@enigmalfidelity reading all the tabloid mags. topher thought he was a bigger star than he was and left to make movies.

[@connorburns8915]

They got rid of Eric. They got rid of Kelso. That’s why it died

[@hesayshesayhowboutmesay]

Connor Burns They left. The show didn’t “get rid” of them. They both wanted to do movies.

[@jayjay86443]

At least Kelso returned to his career as the second guy of Two and A Half Men...which basically heralded the death of it. The show was literally killed when Chuck decided to throw out Charlie Sheen.

[@LordofSadFac]

and they replaced both of them with a Gary Stu

[@LetsPlayKenny]

@@jayjay86443 yeah i agree that throwing out charlie sheen the man was a bad idea. but its honestly not that bad with kelso

[@Sagegeir]

and then they tried to make the side characters the main focus, felt weird

[@stressbean1707]

This show died when they broke up one of the best couples they have been building for seasons Jackie and Hyde as well as the departure of Kelso and Eric.

[@ravenwhiteduck3158]

It was like a snowball effect, first laurie went, then mitch, then Eric and Kelso, and then it rolled right into mount doom and got blown up by the death star

[@zejdland]

noooo kelso and jackie forever

[@LloydxMcfly]

Stressbean exactly " building up for seasons" like bruh why did they break em up

[@samlung2724]

@@zejdland I mean. Isn't Ashton and Mila married? That should be cannon lol

[@zejdland]

@@samlung2724 yea!! But nobody cares for me they're the perfect couple

[@justinland1208]

Red was the best character. I could watch that guy call people dumbasses all day long.

[@geekymetalhead5112]

Second one is either Hyde or Eric

[@eriktatos]

If only he was around today to see these sorry ass panzies

[@scruffd0g193]

Yep, They got off easy sometimes after all the stupid things they have done. Red and Kitty were basically everyone’s parents.

[@redneckroy8947]

In retrospect, I though I was Hyde at the time, and I turned into Red now that I'm old. Now get off my lawn, dumbass!

[@Wolfcone]

It's weird how much I mold myself after red. I'm bald, angry, and stubborn, but I'm honest and loyal. It's weird what we do to cope with the fact that we didn't have a dad.

[@TheOne-ed5ul]

Should’ve just ended the show with season 7 they should’ve had Donna go with Eric to Africa and had Hyde decide to marry Jackie so both couples are happy could’ve had Kelso go be a cop and be with his baby and then red and kitty could just live their lives without kids all over their house anymore would’ve been a perfect ending

[@asmajalis]

Damon 2468 I like this ending. But, what about Fez?

[@FM-cp6kc]

@@asmajalis Fez gets laid I guess

[@laycebug3260]

Mourika P LOL

[@SunshyneA]

In my head that's how it ended i act as tho all of season 8 doesn't exist and parts of 7 i just pretend were hallucinations like Donna's sister

[@ceces9008]

Shebakes_ Shepaints 😂😂😂

[@aet523]

Fez and Jackie is the Joey and Rachel of That 70s Show. I like to pretend season 8 never happened........

[@Jose-se9pu]

That is such a good comparision.

[@lethissiasousa7282]

I will never forgive them for what they did to Jackie and Hyde. Dude was completely in love with her and she was completely in love with him, and then he just decides to give up and marry a stripper? Come on.

[@greenrobot5]

But I always wanted Fez to wind up with Jackie, he was in love with her from the beginning while Kelso was a dog to her

[@jongon0848]

Except Joey and Rachel actually had good chemistry and them being together was at least built up properly to the point where it felt plausible that they had feelings for each other. Fez and Jackie just felt extremely forced and didn't match well at all because Jackie never had any feelings for Fez or even an attraction

[@zejdland]

noooo kelso and jackie forever

[@djaeb2001]

Once Topher Grace left the show, it was officially over. They thought they could save it, but unfortunately, it was just bad. Also, they turned Jackie into the town bike, everyone got to ride.

[@hughjanus9557]

Damn, wish I could have gotten a ride in lol

[@DustyJones1997BGCL]

@@hughjanus9557 kelso's been around that bike a long time lol

[@luanderson.ferreira]

The town bike 💀

[@y.m.or.4053]

And then they tried That 80s Show?? That was when the brand was really and truly DEAD

[@tomsnowden6201]

@@y.m.or.4053that 80s show was tried before the end of 70s

[@josamaroo]

It's funny how That 70's Show tried to make RANDY Mr. Perfect when in reality he's nothing more than the Elephant In The Room.

[@bristolcountycastro]

Randy sucks

[@AnneettaLife]

He was the most annoying piece of shit in the entire show. Even more annoying than Jackie Burkhart/Mila Kunis’ voice.

[@lupooflunarorigin120]

True. He didn't make sense for two reasons. Firstly, he never got the new guy treatment that Fez did- he should have. But mostly, that 70s show was about busting each others balls, Randy never got that treatment, because they wanted the audience to like him. And it made him feel out of place

[@LloydxMcfly]

JOSAMAROO forces it

[@thomasraines1396]

Matthew Bigelow Randy being the “perfect combination of all the other male characters” is the reason people are put off by him, he’s to “perfect” and really doesn’t have any flaws.

[@Hammerjjack]

Meanest insult to someone's career "You are the Jar Jar Binks of your franchise"

[@stanbolkowy166]

lmao

[@TheeKingRayzor]

Majority of the time, when big cast members like Eric are replaced, the show dies.

[@miweb3235]

Damn they replaced Eric? I guess I should try finishing the show.. might be why I never did.

[@TheeKingRayzor]

@@miweb3235 No, you don't have to, trust me Randy was trash. If you want to finish the show, only watch the last episode when Eric returns.

[@paulcharles2457]

@@TheeKingRayzor kinda like ER where George Clooney returned

[@kyle18269]

Another good example: The Office when Michael left.

[@homunculus7]

@@miweb3235 he wasn't replaced the actors left

[@alazkaalazka6087]

Jackie and Hyde breaking up was the worst decision of the series.

[@tavern2468]

Gravivector literally this.

[@JahleelX-xx9wd]

Not worse than Eric leaving.

[@Motorheadache95]

Gravivector I disagree. The Jackie/Hyde relationship sounded ridiculous but ended up being one of the best parts of the show.

[@treemarie213100]

100% agree it was an awful decision.

[@iannoome1898]

After literally just rewatching the series I gotta hard disagree. It was prob the best character development for both Hyde and Jackie, both growing out of their stereotypes of superficial cheerleader and apathetic intellectual punk. The real crime was how they reverted these characters back to their season 1 selves in season 8. Jackie ending up with Fez was prob the worst decision of the show

[@bbybby7589]

i feel that fez and jackie should've happened in season 1 or never. also i hated the way kitty treated donna the whole season, like, it was't her fault that eric broke up with her.

[@GLBizzie]

I mean Kitty was always a bit the obsessed Mother and just had to say Goodbye to her son. She needed someone to blame. I think it made Sense That she blamed Donna

[@shayla106]

Like Vee said, making out with your new boyfriend in the old room of your ex, is kind of asking for that treatment. It’s very inappropriate.

[@whosaprettykitty5076]

She brought her new boyfriend to her house and made out with him there

[@bbybby7589]

@@shayla106 omg i completely forgot about that ÑSLDÑSÑFÑ yeah that makes sense but kitty did treat donna like shit since the beggining of the season, but after that she definetly deserved it lmao

[@muffinsdawg]

Blonde Donna always felt like a different character to me

[@janellephoenix4378]

Yeah, I liked her better with red hair. Her turning blonde felt like selling out.

[@Gort7]

They made her turn blonde bc the actress that plays Donna, Laura Prepon, dyed her hair for a movie

[@kinky_tomatoes3793]

i think it was the 4 season she was horrible she was a b1tc5

[@setharrow9971]

What do you mean she looked way hotter as a blonde though?

[@gleamingroses2952]

Donna was just the worst main character in general. She was always my least favorite character, she just became worst once she turned Blonde, as her worst traits got magnified. With Donna, she comes off as a hypocrite who uses feminism to get her way in an argument or some other aspect of her life when she has shown she's not above acting like a stereotypical woman if it benefits her somehow. The fact that she often overacts to some of the smaller things Eric has done and treats him like crap even when he really hasn't done anything wrong and never gets called out on it doesn't help. I also think she constantly treated Eric like crap.

[@jinxtheunluckypony]

Randy was the most generic Marry Sue that’s ever made it onto an actual tv show.

[@Jose-se9pu]

He totally was a Mary Sue!

[@MorganYou]

@Ronin FromtheOcean they both are Gary/mary sues

[@jongon0848]

Isn't it "Gary Stu?"

[@MorganYou]

@Matthew Bigelow that's the problem, he was a mixture of everyone's greatest quality's but had no flaws. In every sense of the word, he was to perfect

[@FemboybunnyGW]

The Rey of that 70's show

[@jdotco23]

Most accurate video ever. Everything he mentions about season 8's awfulness is completely on-point. The Fez-Jackie fiasco still gives me nightmares. And of course, "RANDY, DON'T WORRY, WE'LL GET TO HIM."

[@raoul3016]

I feel like Randy was written like he was a long time friend of the group, so instead of being a somewhat shy new friend who later becomes more comfortable with the group like he was supposed to be, his behavior of being so Zen and Aloof right from the start seemed really forced and cringe.

[@ladderboy_al1553]

“Zen” “Aloof” damn u a real fan

[@ddthemage3861]

Not everyone is shy when joining a new group

[@Charleswonder12]

@@ladderboy_al1553 "whatever....that's coo"

[@jessicacaleno1998]

I understand the cringe I didnt think he fit at all. I feel his comedy was forced and wasnt sure how to act it out.

[@Malum09]

Let’s be honest, the 7th season should have been the end of the show, it even feels like it, but they left some plot threads open when they noticed they would get renewed.

[@ericthomas917]

Right instead of Eric going to Africa they should have just had Eric and Donna get married at the end of season 7 and then end the show

[@bloodlinefilms]

Ill say the only idea that justified it at all continuing was that the show ends with the 70s on New Years Eve 1980

[@laurooq]

@@ericthomas917 not even a wedding, they could've moved in together to go to college like they always planned and that would have been great

[@CarlosSuarez-uv3mt]

I have a couple of things to say about the show in general. To me the decline started mid-season 5, that's where the episodes had started to become very hit or miss, plus Tanya Roberts (Midge) and Lisa Robin Kelly (Laurie) had to leave the show due to personal reasons; Tanya wanted to spend more time with her husband who was terminally ill back then and Lisa straight up had personal alcohol problems that started once she had a miscarriage, both they were absent for many episodes, with Midge being absent for seasons 4 and 5, and with Laurie only appearing in a handful of season 5 episodes, not appearing at all in season 4 and the showrunners ultimately replaced her with another actress, Christina Moore, for season 6 only for them to write Laurie out of the series entirely, she didn't even show up for the series finale, and even Eric came back for that one. There are also some continuity issues that tend to go unnoticed most of the time, such as the confusing timeline; T70S supposedly took place over the course of approximately 3 years yet every season had a Christmas episode, like how is that even possible? Celebrating Christmas 7 times in 3 years, and there's also this one time Donna's 14 y/o sister showed up and was never mentioned ever again. Now, don't get me wrong, I love this show, and I have many good memories of me watching it and enjoying it, but after a few seasons it wasn't the same anymore. I don't really know how awful season 8 is, because by the time I had reached season 7, I was disinterested, I didn't want to watch it anymore because it wasn't making me laugh the same way it did before.

[@nunya652]

The writing died when Eric and Donna didnt get married.

[@whosaprettykitty5076]

Spent TWO whole seasons with the anticipation of them getting married only for it to be dropped and then treated like a joke

[@emmaoswald8043]

I know, I thought it would be nice to see them ‘grow up’ together

[@Outlaw8908]

Yeah that much is very true. The comedy after that was starting to show cracks.

[@jongon0848]

The entire 5th and 6th season were building up to it and it was just such a waste of time considering they didn't go through with it. And that left the show feeling very empty with little story to follow except for Hyde's Dad and Kelso having a baby, which were funny but not that compelling.

[@dougsworld7533]

As soon as Eric turns 18 basically. Once Donna dies her hair blonde. Once the show focuses more on their careers paths..

[@mauve9266]

I always say when Donnas hair “dyed” so did the show

[@feraflauna3238]

+Dougs World-Really season five is when the show fell down in a deep spiral for me. The last half of the series is so strange, bizarre, unfitting and only That 70s Show in name only. What they did to all the characters, especially Red, still infuriates me even to this day. All those characters were slowly and surely annihilated. I can't find it in my heart to go past the season four finale anymore. What started as a sweet show devolved into a nasty parody of itself where it's just unpleasant for me. So the last half of the series simply "didn't happen." End of story. I find it a far better show if you cut it off after the season four finale and I've stuck with that for a long time.

[@salti6780]

Fera Flauna how so

[@laurooq]

@@feraflauna3238 i see your point, and i felt that "parody of itself" thing going on, but i thought that S5 and 6 were at least bareble, not the best but i could still laugh and some interesting things were happening, but S7 was too much, no need to talk abou S8...

[@tylerwagner1978]

@@feraflauna3238 i actually disagree. Been watching it over again and season 5 is probably my favorite season because it has the most stuff going on. It has momentum and is still as funny as ever. Its the peak of the series. Its after the characters graduate when things start to change. Eric and Donna should have gotten married and the characters should have just developed while being funny. Hated when Donna changed her hair. Eric and Donnas relationship was the heart if the show imo and without that makes it less enjoyable.

[@mattrodgers157]

Sometimes I go back and watch this show and it makes me nostalgic for a time I never lived through before it all went to shit. When you could afford a house and smartphones weren’t even a thought let alone cell phones. Damn I love this show.

[@ghost3337]

Eric was the glue of the show, and kelso was the best to play off comically

[@ceezvelasquez932]

Yeah stfu bot

[@deadman2968]

Yeah no it seems like u didn't even watch yeh show

[@dominiquevalenzuela8153]

Eric didn't have that much impact. Show flopped w/o Kelso imo

[@cb_glogod8118]

@@dominiquevalenzuela8153 they literally hung out in his basement, how did he not have a impact

[@ghost3337]

@@dominiquevalenzuela8153 wild take

[@jaycievictory8461]

To me, the writers didn't just hate Jackie/Hyde, they hated Jackie. I couldn't believe how they treated her in s8. The humiliation of her character. It actually really upset me to watch.

[@slimeyladude]

Exactly

[@wrsltnmusclefan]

@@slimeyladude Yeah. But then she voiced Meg on the Family Guy. They treated her like crap too, especially in later seasons. Coincidence??

[@carollopes5950]

@@wrsltnmusclefan hmmm thats not the same thing at all, i dont even understand what you are trying to say here?Meg is a character that all the humour comes from how her family hates her. Jackie came from the same place but from season 1 to season 7 the writers gave her so much character development. The writers for s8 just hated the character than decided to shit on it. Family Guy writers didn't hate Meg, they made Meg for her to be hated by the other characters. What makes u even make the connection tho???? They are totally different characters from totally different shows that just happens to be played by the same woman lmao

[@albertogarcia2317]

wow I didn't noticed that

[@AnaTaff]

YES! That's exactly what I think! They went out of their ways to humiliate her

[@annaadams9706]

i’ve always believed the theory that topher grace actually left bc he couldn’t stand what they were doing to his character. eric was a directionless loser who should have matured way more by season sevens point.

[@marlenathorvald]

And the Jackie storyline! to go to Michael, and then fez! and out of nowhere hyde is married to a stripper, and Jackie and hyde just act like they werent inlove for the last few years. That was the worst plot line

[@zejdland]

noooo kelso and jackie forever

[@mckennalauren]

harrylongbaugh1 lmao sir what

[@jomshomeless7154]

Learn how to spell Hyde idiot.

[@marlenathorvald]

@@jomshomeless7154 it's called speech to text, I know Hyde is such a big brain complicated name you assumed I didn't know how to spell it it never crossed your minded it was a simple typi. I'm so glad you came here with your superior intellect to help me out. You definitely don't insult strangers on the Internet because you're unhappy with your own life and it makes you feel better for a minute to attack someone else. "Stupid idiot poopy face" lmao

[@marlenathorvald]

@@jomshomeless7154 I also wrote years twice 😬 get the firing squad. Don't worry I fixed it

[@pinkopat]

If I do not watch season 8, it cannot hurt me. In my mind Eric becomes a teacher, Donna goes back to college too, Jackie works in television and eventually gets back with Hyde when they've both matured, Kelso moves to Chicago to care for his daughter and Fez gets arrested for stalking and harassment.

[@emmypersonal4033]

I like that ending better

[@haihai9022]

That could've been the perfect ending for S7, which would be the final season

[@laurooq]

That would be so much better. One thing i thought of too: by the end of S7 Hyde still has all that money that he thought was helping the Formans but that Red was actually saving so he could go to college. At this point he already has the job at the Record store and is pretty established Hyde has no will to go to college, so why they wouldn't let him pay for Eric's college with that money? Later in S8 they bring up again that the money existed, for a very stupid reason, but is not like they forgot It. And If you think about It is not out of character for Hyde, Eric is his best friend since childhood, he usually help when Eric is about to do something stupid. That would be quite a fitting way for Hyde to thank Eric. I dunno

[@pinkopat]

@@laurooq that would be amazing, but I also like the idea of Eric finally leaving the basement and doing something significant with his time by teaching children in Africa. So maybe Eric uses the money to move to Madison with Donna?

[@rishabhtrikha8597]

I didn't watch season 8 n i couldn't be any more happier reading your comment

[@stevedem76]

The way Fez turned was one of the few things that made sense in the last season. He bulked up alot in a fairly short time, like some guys do at that age, then girls start noticing him. Throughout the series you could watch Fez's game with the ladies get stronger.

[@tobiaslawrence8928]

Facts. The same happened to me I was fairly lanky but on my last year of high school I bulked up.

[@darkdialga777]

Kinda like with Jaleel White in the later seasons of family matters. dude was too buff to be playing a nerdy wimp by the end.

[@stephaniewilliams6756]

Incel alert

[@VulCitres]

that 70s show died when jackies outfits stopped looking cute 😭

[@Anna81Louise]

I read the title "The day that 70's show died" and my brain automatically snarled "RANDY!"

[@1LostMind]

My brain blamed it on stripper wife, I've only seen the season once & only kept watching in hopes Hyde & Jackie would get back together...such a waste of time

[@thisguyhere6641]

Randy Pearson was the BIG reason why That '70s Show died!

[@koala201211]

@@1LostMind that was one of the worst plotlines in the history of television

[@thevoid99]

goddamn... i hated randy. he made me stop watching that fucking show until its finale. he was so goddamn unfunny. now we realize that his real-life brother seth meyers is the one with the talent.

[@thisguyhere6641]

@@thevoid99 RANDY PEARSON WAS THE WORST!

[@Kornheadfan]

As much as I wished it would have ended with the failed wedding, to show that their lives are still changing and growing, I love the episode where they all get too high and think the vacuum salesman is the FBI after them because of Kelso's white house prank call 🤣🤣

[@hardcoreking52]

I hated how they changed Eric, him and Donna were gonna get married, but the writers screwed that up and made him irresponsible again. Why? Why mess that up? Eric and Donna moving in together and going through marrital issues but working through it and coming out stronger, but still have to time to mess around with their friends.

[@Xegethra]

Yeah it would have been nice.

[@amaamaamaamanda]

honestly i think leaving your partner for a job is a more mature decision than staying w them just bc u love them

[@Xegethra]

​@@amaamaamaamanda Passing up love for a life of loneliness in a job that doesn't care about you like another person does is not mature. It is foolish, passing up love is one of the easiest things to regret. If the job screws up you've lost them both. Passing up on a job so what? Go get another. Passing up love for a job is like a child chasing a shiny thing..the job is the shiny thing while love is the care and better chance of stability...if you can have love and a job..why not both? A grand exiting away job is the child's shiny thing. It's not like he had a proper job and it made him go away, I would understand that more because you could expect at some point the job would have him come back once that assignment is over...but no, he just ups and leaves like a child because love isn't easy or whatever....but neither is going half way across the world leaving your childhood sweetheart you've always loved. Forced writing to separate them.

[@akmal94ibrahim]

I feel like Eric is the only character that hasn't progressed throughout the whole 7 seasons. The rest had some character development yet Eric after a bit of character development, goes right back to being the loser irresponsible dork he was. Even in season 8 when he is not in it, they made him out to be the same loser irresponsible boy he is.

[@feraflauna3238]

+HardcoreKing52-Because they really had no idea what to do with these characters anymore. Eric spends an entire season just effing off, selling off his wedding ring to afford a year of doing absolutely nothing (which is particularly egregious, even if they called off the wedding because they were too young, Eric always knew he was going to marry Donna one day and until he stood her up at their wedding, he never had any hesitation that they were always going to be together. If the writers were actually paying attention, that was the whole reason Eric and Donna broke up-Eric wanted to have a solid commitment because he knew what he wanted in their relationship. Donna didn't). And then he randomly decides he wants to become a teacher, something he never expressed any remote interest in, and that to become a teacher, he has to commit a full year of study and teaching in Africa. . .Okay. . . Topher Grace wanted out of the show at the time that came in but still, I would think the writers would've done a far better job handling Eric where he got a better ending than that. Even when Eric returns in the series finale, he admits going to Africa was a mistake and he and Donna are just left with a lot of friction and tension. . .Whoo. . .Nothing is resolved with Eric in the series finale and he couldn't have been more than an afterthought when he is supposed to be the main character of the series. The main character. . .fleetingly comes by five minutes into the last episode.

[@Dmbm789]

Jackie should’ve stayed with Hyde after leaving Kelso and her shooting her shot with Fez was absolutely pointless and ruined their chemistry

[@ShinFahima]

In defense of Hyde's stache: It's the seventies. It's just the seventies.

[@laurooq]

I can excuse his beard, but that pornstache ugh

[@dwarflord420]

Damn Right. Every Man In the 70's had 2 Maybe 3 Things 1) A Mustache 2) A Corduroy Jacket And The Possible third, Vietnam Flash Backs. Which could case a fourth, A Drinking Problem.

[@threestoogesfan2000]

Eeyep, it's the 70's that's all you can say

[@nexus.accounts]

I never understood why Eric's parents would let his ex girlfriend and her current boyfriend Randy hang out in the house. It's bad enough everyone in the group consistently puts Eric down. Personally, I would move to Africa as well.

[@hanburgundy4317]

I think it's around season six where they start making Forman the butt of every joke, and I always just start the series over once that (and other things) bother me. The first few seasons of every great series are always the best.

[@SportsNBourbon]

Taking that a wee bit to seriously 🤣

[@judithsixkiller5586]

To be fair, After Eric's throwing a huge fit and breaking up with Donna for refusing to wear a commitment ring before she was ready, Then running off to California to "forgive" her and guilt tripping her out of leaving for college. THEN after proposing , Eric basically abandoned Donna at the altar on their wedding day leaving her broken hearted and humiliated waiting on edge for a long time until he finally calls her on the phone like a coward. . When she takes him back despite his awful behavior they get back together. Eric takes off to Africa and leaves her hanging on twisting in the wind tjen eventually break up with her AGAIN. He doesn't even ask her to go with him. He always tells himself that he's doing these things for her benefit but it's really just an excuse to do what he wants.

[@user-yn2sr8cf8g]

@@judithsixkiller5586 I don't agree with the whole promise ring part, but you're right about the wedding stuff. Eric runs to California to take Donna back even after what happened with Kelso's brother. And let's be honest, Donna had her whole life in Wisconsin and her goals, and it was Eric's decision to go to Africa. You can't blame Eric for everything. He becomes kind of an asshole after the whole wedding thing, but that was mostly because Topher Grace wanted to leave the show for other things.

[@judithsixkiller5586]

@@user-yn2sr8cf8g Eric is the one who BROKE UP with Donna because she was honest that she wanted to go to college and persue a journalist career and wasn't ready for a lifetime commitment yet. She did absolutely NOTHING wrong by going out with Casey Kelso. She was just embarrassed at getting hung up and fooled by such a manipulative jerk because she was so vulnerable while on the rebound from being dumped by Eric. (Eric DID scheme on getting some strange . Once with his sister's slutty friend leading him on. Not to mention also an incident with his own COUSIN sex teasing him . He kissed one girl even though he was involved with Donna at the time.

[@thewaydownmachine]

Randy was the Poochie The Rockin Dog, of that 70 show

[@lucichuwee_cood1124]

By the way there’s a redo “fan fiction” of the end of season 7 and all of season 8 Eric & Kelso didn’t leave Jackie & Hyde are still together, Mitch & Laurie came back

[@letstacoboutit._.]

Where can I watch it?

[@letstacoboutit._.]

Where can I watch it?

[@lucichuwee_cood1124]

Let'sTacoBoutIt you can read it, you just search for that 70’S show season 8 redo fanfiction and it’s the first link in shows up

[@lucichuwee_cood1124]

m.fanfiction.net/s/2960445/1/

[@stoneddykeblues]

Luci Chuwee_Cood THANK YOU!!!!!

[@calm.girlie]

Fez has been in America for several years, it is quite realistic that his accent has maybe faded to become closer to the American one

[@Aintmuchtoosayy]

Facts

[@rg7846]

nah it was too forced. just didn't have the charisma anymore. and it was only 3 years of the era from 76 to 79 ...you ain't losing your accent that fast ..

[@Spartan239LoneWolf]

Rafael Gonzalez don’t you mean he lost his chareezma because of the amedican accent lol

[@izzylyonss]

You obviously aren't from another country. My mother and father have been in America or over 20 years and still have a thick accent.

[@calm.girlie]

Israel De Leon contrary to ur assumption I am from another country.. And some people pick up accents more easily than others

[@scruffd0g193]

They were Lucky Red and Kitty still allowed them to hang out in their basement once Eric left. I would’ve kicked em all out with how disrespectful they were to Eric sometimes.

[@ABurntMuffin]

friends dog on each other, even today in 2023. What would you expect from 60/70's kids? Especially with a Dad like Red, as I'm sure he was happy they were teaching his son to be tougher with every dogpile.

[@ratosphere]

I like to think that season 8 was just a fantasy Fez made up while high.

[@abhishekjoshi3205]

Me too!! I haven't even watched the last season yet..I have binge watch all the early seasons many times though!

[@boybvrke8423]

That’s actually a good way to look at it

[@TreeHouse-zs6jr]

That actually could've worked

[@H.E.M.]

😂😂😂😂

[@pk5727]

That would have been a great ending

[@albertohuertas5713]

The reason Fez became hot on the show is because he was dating all the Hollywood chicks in real life

[@gardengloop1060]

Weren't they underage? That's what I heard.

[@thepoeticbutcher3370]

@@gardengloop1060 ......stop hearing shit & research..

[@candycane1744]

I feel like Fez and Jackie would've SOMEWHAT work but TEMPORARILY in the earlier seasons. Mayyybe if she briefly dated him after breaking up with Kelso just to feel jealous and later on decided he wasn't good for her. It felt so random to have them be endgame at the last season

[@BlackCampariBlue]

Jackie was actually a little into him in the earlier seasons

[@shayla106]

Lost in Translation And every time they introduced that, they found out that they didn’t really have a lot in common or great chemistry.

[@JPPW1982]

Seasons 1-4 were hands down the golden years of That 70's show. Season 5 was really good because the change was really nice. 6 and 7 while the quality did dip were still entertaining and worth watching. I hate season 8. It should have ended with season 7. If two of my major stars of the show announce they're leaving. I'm ending the show. Plain and simple. Hyde and Jackie were honestly the best couple on the show. I hated they never got back together. Honestly I would just watch 1-7 and the series finale and pretend the rest of season 8 didn't happen.

[@tylerwagner1978]

I'd include season 5 as the golden years. Its the shows peak.

[@JPPW1982]

Yeah fair enough I just rewatched season 5 and really enjoyed so yeah it goes into the golden years for sure. If I were running the show or created it. Season 6 I would have gone through with Eric and Donna getting married. Season 7 would have been their first year married and renting an apartment across town so they could still hang out at the Foreman house and their friends. And season 7 would have been the final season and when it ends Eric and Donna leave Wisconsin where Eric gets a job working for one of the big three car companies and Donna gets offered a radio job that puts her through college to get a degree in communications and before the season is over Jackie and Hyde are engaged and Kelso chooses to move to Chicago to be closer to Brook and Betsy. Fez decides to stay in Pointe place with Hyde and Jackie so the group doesn't completely split up. Bob moves down to Florida and Red and Kitty decide to buy a condo down in Florida and become snow birds. So everyone gets a little happy ending.

[@PKLO9727]

What do you mean? It Only had 7 seasons. 🤡

[@JPPW1982]

@@PKLO9727 lol I see what you just did there

[@nysunflower9439]

They should have changed the shows dynamic. Made Jackie and Hyde the focus.

[@darnelldarden9429]

The Wesley from Angel character change was done beautifully

[@alyshiakroll15]

In the early seasons Donna had so much promise, they should've at least had her go to college or something. She always talked about leaving point place and becoming a successful person. She threw all of that away for Eric, who ended up leaving himself and she's just in limbo. That always annoyed me.

[@mariahyohannes]

Exactly they had a big break up over just that and the writers totally forgot about it, by the end Eric would have followed wherever she wanted to go because he wanted to get out of point place too, would've made sense if she went to Africa with him.

[@imadori1010]

Me too

[@PowerRedBullTypology]

Of course they had to something as they could not just let her leave pointplace, as she needed to be in the show. So they will always come up with some excuse to keep people in their respected locations in such shows.

[@alyshiakroll15]

@@PowerRedBullTypology even when it ended she was staying in point place, they could've had her say she was finally going to pursue her dreams

[@PowerRedBullTypology]

@@alyshiakroll15 She persued her dreams 1 week after the show. She just did not tell anyone yet ;)

[@daltonfilho835]

I knew a girl who loved Randy Everyone in my town was watching That 70s Show at the same time when it came to Netflix, so most of us got to the 8th season around the same time I tried my best to like Randy but he always felt weird, my best friend took months to finish the show bc of Randy, everyone in town found Randy somehow sketchy and obviously out of place But this girl, who was always hanging out with me, absolutely LOVED the guy, she simply hated Eric throughout the whole show and couldn't stand that he was paired up with Laura Prepon/Donna, so she was relieved he went away, and she also had a crush on Randy Not long later, not surprisingly, we found out this girl was an asshole

[@sharebear9165]

Harsha Subasinghe what about liking Randy = feminist?

[@daltonfilho835]

@Harsha Subasinghe what the fuck?? No, she was an asshole bc she cheated on her bf with half the city. There's nothing about liking Randy that correlates to feminism, and feminism doesn't correlate to being an asshole. Not to mention pretty much all of my girl friends are feminists, so it wouldn't make sense for them to think she was an asshole for it.

[@Willdh1987]

Harsha Subasinghe it’s unfortunate that this guy doesn’t realize how much of a blue pill simp he really is. He done played himself. Cognitive dissonance and/or willful ignorance.

[@zejdland]

@@daltonfilho835 but feminism is for assholes... there isn't one person who would be a feminist but not an asshole

[@arturoperez1363]

@Harsha Subasinghe if you hate feminism why do you bring the fucking topic out of nowhere?

[@Basillikos]

As someone who watched the final season as it premiered, I can confirm it was super painful to watch a once great show running on fumes.

[@melissaisloud7404]

I believe I read that the actress who played Donna’s mom left the show for those seasons because her husband had become seriously ill.

[@Cos_Why_Not]

@@maddie-um3zv Why did she leave again right after coming back though?

[@proffesornugget1613]

correct

[@jimmyhileman8697]

Woooooo

[@pillsburydoughboy1666]

@@Cos_Why_Not ikr

[@RickyHadou]

When Eric left the show died. Plain and simple.

[@alyssam113]

exactly. he’ll always be my favorite tv show character.

[@shotbro4998]

Niall Lappin I don’t think so, that’s like saying if Ross left Friends, the show would still be fine if Joey stayed.

[@shotbro4998]

Niall Lappin That’s such an odd opinion lol. Alg

[@ABurntMuffin]

the ending of the sopranos was great. It wasn't flashy, you didn't see it coming, you don't even know it's happened. At least, Tony didn't. It's exactly what him and Bobby were talking about in the boat upstate prior in the season.

[@ABurntMuffin]

people were just upset because they wanted a blockbuster shootout and Tony to walk into the sunset with his family in tow, and that's just not the story that was being told.

[@tobinmonroe3045]

The sopranos ending wasn’t bad because there wasn’t a big action sequence… bruh what?! It was bad because it was flat out disrespectful to such a deep and engaging show. Idgaf if chase stated what the ending meant either way it was bad writing 101. rule number 1 about ending a story is you don’t fade to black and you don’t make the story turn out to be a dream. It’s a cop out way of saying you don’t know how to properly end a bunch of storylines. David chase dick riders defend that ending and I just don’t get it if anyone else ended a show that way nobody would ever forgive it. The fact he even had to explain his own ending years later shows why it was bad. At the very least your audience should know what is happening and nobody knew until he explained it.

[@ABurntMuffin]

@@tobinmonroe3045 it wasn't a fade it was a hard cut. I argue it was well placed in the exact way the hard cut at the end of 'I Want You (She's So Heavy)' is. feel free to disagree on the opinion but it definitely wasn't a fade.

[@christopherballero866]

That 70s Show was great but that last season was really, really bad. For an upcoming video of the downfall of Two and a-half Man; one was greatly hurt with Ashton Kutcher leaving and the other greatly hurt by his introduction.

[@TheRacingGenius88]

Also having Jenny McCarthy appear and blow Charlie need I say more.

[@isaiaharmand9901]

@@TheRacingGenius88 I watched the whole last season and it was NOT bad I understand why people shit on it and rightfully so but I enjoyed it very much

[@mikeymike7431]

@@isaiaharmand9901 Agreed man. Season 8 was good. I liked Randy, he had the same humor as Eric. Also, Leo was starred a lot, pretty great.

[@ZenKrio]

Two and a Half Men was bad long before Charlie was gone.

[@SceneWins]

People always say “why do they still hang out at Eric’s?”… Why wouldn’t they? Red is a hard ass but he makes it obvious several times that he genuinely loves the whole group & Kitty is the picture of a doting mother. She needed someone with Eric and Laurie both being out of the picture. Also, Hyde lives there…

[@okyggtty]

You make fair points however it's still ridiculous.

[@skyblaze2156]

@@okyggtty it's not too far fetched but yea it's still a bit ridiculous.

[@mette9279]

In my mind Jackie and Hyde are married and now living their lives somewhere together. They were literally the best TV-couple I've ever seen and brought out the best of each other, without necessarily changing each other. Jackie was still fiery, but became less bitchy with Hyde, and Hyde kinda got his shit together and wanted to make something out of his life because of Jackie

[@nysunflower9439]

They got married and bought the Forman house. Season 8 was just a Fez dream fantasy

[@thevoid99]

@@Hana-xf7bq that is the perfect ending.

[@pjtaintz]

Jackie and Kelso are married which is pretty awesome

[@audhumbla6927]

its so true omg I love them together

[@emiliomarbanjr]

Fez got boring and annoying, the new guy was so unlikeable and pretty ugly while the series acted like he was hot lol. Hyde got missmanaged, he was awesome. Red needed more screentime too. Hyde and Red were the best to me.

[@hornycat5]

And pretty ugly ? Omg I just saw ur profile pic and I laughed

[@emiliomarbanjr]

@@hornycat5 Yes.

[@rebelbinx]

Bruh fez was funny as shit.. clearly u don’t know humor due to the fact you like the darkest characters in that 70s show

[@emiliomarbanjr]

@@rebelbinx Fez was a fuse Between Howard and Sheldon from Rhe Big Bang Theory. Howard because it used to be funny and the fact that he's a pervert is what defines his character and Sheldon because of how stereotypical and unfunny it can get after some time of seeing the same thing. They used Fez HORRIBLY on the last season, and that's the only thing we're talking about here, throughout the whole series he was cool until the last season where things just happened because. I aprreciated Hyde and Red more because they were the ones acting like real people so they were naturally funny, specially Red. What's with the "u clearly don't know humor" are you mod from some subreddit sorrounding comedy? You clearly sound like a redditor.

[@Siireneyes]

Rebel Binx sexual harassment is not dark humor

[@bluetopguitar1104]

After they wrote Eric out of the show it was done. We all knew it. What an awesome show for a person who grew up in that era. Great writing and cast while it lasted. Damn.

[@davemac9563]

Exactly, whether you liked or disliked Eric, you can’t deny he was the glue that held the show together. He was a vessel for the audience trying to find their place in the world. And once that’s removed, it’s game over for the plot.

[@JackSledgeIV]

Randy is such a gary stu and he just was an absolute bore

[@MeeZyStudioZ]

Haha gary stu... Now thats a new one to me... 🤣

[@EDifyer881]

Agreed lol

[@serbonkers4130]

Hes face makes you wanna punch him right

[@G4kan260]

@Matthew Bigelow that the problem he was too perfect and had no flaws like a Gary stew.

[@alyssam113]

Matthew Bigelow bruh you literally copy and paste the SAME long ass novel comment on any youtube comment about someone not liking his character. NOBODY CARES💀randy ruined the show. period and of story

[@richardcheese4680]

I watched this show as a kid. Now that you refreshed my mind I realize that the last season was so bad that I thought all those years that I couldn’t stand the show but in reality I liked it. It just got overwritten by that last season. Damn.

[@superhyperyoshi]

Note: Randy died on the way back to his home planet.

[@KinkESizemore]

Bob cursing out Red was awesome, and he immediately took it back.

[@navations]

This show died to me when Jackie and Hyde broke up and randy came in

[@VI_V2]

This is the first in the ongoing “The Day ___ Died” series Still to come: How I Met Your Mother Two and a Half Men The Office Scrubs

[@sharebear9165]

YES I need a video on how I met your mother!! I was just about to suggest it

[@typhoontyph]

HIMYM is the best it will never die in my heart

[@DezMarivette]

The final season of HIMYM was so painfully dragged out, and the previous season was buttering us up for it. Those last two seasons were WORK to get through. Individual episodes are funny, but as a whole - just the worst. 😭

[@jonathanramos6028]

HIMYM doesn't have the worst last season ever, it was actually pretty good...it has THE ABSOLUTE WORST LAST EPISODE OF ALL TIME. Nothing will ever top that atrocious insult to fans.

[@DezMarivette]

Jonathan Ramos yea individual episodes are still funny, but the entire season trashed the storylines they were setting up and undid all their character development. Season 8 was definitely worse than S9 (with the degradation of Robin’s character) but overall such a disappointment. I agree there. Definitely the worst series finale, hands down.

[@MrMadshepherd]

I did like the finale how the final show ended at the strike of midnight New Years 1980

[@Angi3_6]

No matter how much I dislike the rest of the season, I always cry during the last episode!

[@derekgreen7319]

The last season of the sopranos is for real good. Its just the ending people tend to not care for . I think it's good.

[@stefanfilipovits21]

I was 18 when the last season of the sopranos came out. At the time I didn’t get the finale and thought it was a mess. Now? I REALLY like it. The NJ vs NY mob war is a great backdrop for the season and I really like the ambiguity of the finale and what it says about the mob life.

[@papaprovolone9432]

I love how everyone in the show went from trying to make progress in their lives to just fucking off for an entire season.

[@facefucker7923]

LMAO TRUE

[@lilshady2485]

One thing that really pissed me off about the show was the inconsistency of the timeline. They were juniors in season 1 but there was like 4 Christmas episodes how is it possible to have that many Christmases in 2 school years.

[@davej9228]

It's a Mash thing.

[@feraflauna3238]

@kollie79 You can tell they weren't sure how long the series was going to last since the first season took place relatively within a year. 1976-1977. I believe seasons two-four was 1977-1978. Seasons four-seven was 1978. And season eight was 1979. So you have Eric and Donna proposing to each other, graduating college, Eric standing her up on their wedding day, and Eric completely effing off for a "year". . .within the same year. Oops. They screwed up the gang's ages a few times. Kelso is actually supposed to be a year older than everyone else since he had to repeat a grade. (The writers probably forgot about that entirely.) Honestly, the goofy inconsistencies like those are often forgivable. It's just in the later seasons where they really put a strain on the entire thing where the show was just obviously going on way too damn long. That 70s Shows probably would've been far better off, especially with how they handled the characters in the later seasons, if they were put on a limited run. At most five seasons. The storytelling really took a nosedive after season four anyway and having a "limited run" would've made everything tighter and much more stronger and focused.

[@sexyhoe1800]

DUDE ME TOO

[@orkutfinance]

I think that they we're planning on having the show last four seasons during the years 76 to 79 but they decided to stretch it out cuz ratings

[@JB-1138]

They should have started the show in 1970. Made no sense to start it in 1976.

[@machodgdon]

This goes to show that when one actor leaves that carried the show, it falls apart at a rapid rate

[@DaddyOfTheSugarVariety]

The only part of the final season that I loved was Kitty's house tour. Someone should go on Lego Ideas and create the Foreman's house Lego set!

[@OhHeyItsMattyD]

Yeah they made the sets legit look like a whole house. Idk how they did that in one shot

[@rustytoyota]

I just saw that one last night. It was really nice to get that perspective and to get a good look at the Den.

[@gator9339]

Fun Fact: the basement stairs led to nothing

[@OhHeyItsMattyD]

@@gator9339 yeah thats with most sets, i think the coolest part was the continuous shot of the whole house set still

[@michaelswitzer2121]

Mr. Nobody crap that would be a good set I already have Stinfelds apartment central perk and quick E mart and I would buy that one too👍