THE DAY TWO AND A HALF MEN DIED

[@OfficialRedTeamReview]

alright guys lets start a gofundme so this guy can see a mil. LETS GO!

[@VI_V2]

RedTeamReview you guys heard the check mark!

[@OfficialRedTeamReview]

loved the video, brother. subbed for more so keep em coming!

[@VI_V2]

Thanks man! Means a lot coming from you !

[@huskerraider9137]

God, I miss your GoT reviews.

[@VI_V2]

Ryan he continued working on that show?

[@Vontyak]

There was literally an episode where Charlie tried to support a kid he thought was his, so that makes the never-seen illegitimate daughter even stranger

[@Jose-se9pu]

At that point, it was a pissing contest, writters just wanted to destroy the character.

[@fryphilip7474]

- two and half men is a comedy not a drama

[@Jay-vp3kk]

in fact in that episode Charlie says "I intend to send you one of these every month" when giving her money for the kid who wasn't even really charlie's. AND THEY NEVER SAY HE STOPPED OR FIGURED OUT IT WASN'T HIS KID... As far as we know he was sending her money each month up untill his death like 4-5 seasons later.. But yeah he had a daughter he never told anyone about. Makes sense.

[@liv-qz4cx]

John Cena that means it has to be inconsistent and just straight up stupid? it means the development of the characters doesn’t matter? do you think only shock value is comedy?

[@jojames6621]

@@Jay-vp3kk I know I thought that to myself a couple of days ago while watching an episode of charlie's daughter as to why she was never metioned or refrenced before. They just destroyed the entire show

[@A-Man79]

The saddest part is that what eventually happened to Charlie Sheen in real life is the only logical ending for the character if he'd stayed in the show.

[@andyukmonkey]

He was playing a character?

[@frank_west.]

@@andyukmonkey he's a method actor

[@Jose-se9pu]

It is sad.

[@ThreeDaysOfDan]

i think he caught aids AND then snapped, and I feel his manager had something to do with him catching aids as well.

[@sophiehelena6737]

@@ThreeDaysOfDan what do u mean?

[@troybar4130]

Jon cryer’s actually a good actor he’s the only one who stays all 12 seasons and plays his character pretty well and let’s not forget Conchata Ferrel

[@adame5881]

He was no Charlie Sheen and Ashton Kutcher was not correct for the show.

[@UFCWWE69]

And the only guy who actually took it seriously in the later seasons even tho it became shit

[@garethdonald5469]

I agree

[@EmMagna-nd3nx]

It's not hard for a beta to play a beta. No offense to Jon Cryer but that character didn't seem too far of a stretch for him to play a wuss character.

[@Mitchell_Kirkbride69]

i felt like Jon wanted to leave after Charlie and Angus left

[@giask3749]

Jake in the pilot episode: "I love you uncle Charlie" Jake at Charlie's funeral: "I'm hungry, anyone else hungry? "

[@Mustansirtaher6]

Hmmm

[@dvt1393]

Yeah... I didn't mind the lowbrow and meanspirited humor of the show, but when it started it at least had a smidge of heart to it. As the show went on, it just seemed like they all hated each other and it doesn't make any sense that they would even want to be around each other, let alone live with each other and spend every day together.

[@youknowwhoyouare2269]

K@@dvt1393

[@matoplays3484]

Hated how dumb they made Jake in the series. He could be just an underachiver or a below average smart kid and the show would work just as well.

[@TrentPruitt1997]

@@matoplays3484 I have a theory that in the episode where he and Charlie play basketball when he hits his head on the ground, that’s what started his descent into idiocy. Hated that in like season 7 onward, Jake became a stoner. Apparently Angus T. Jones hated it too cause that’s why he quit.

[@craigmonteforte1478]

Another noticeable thing in the later episodes was how much time Charlie was filmed talking on the phone thats a Hollywood trick when actors cant remember their lines or cues

[@glitchcompound3692]

Yeah because there’s someone on the phone telling them there lines

[@annadraper8403]

Interesting, never knew that.

[@lunayoshi]

Or in the case of Three's Company, a workaround when your actors don't get along or maybe have scheduling conflicts.

[@jtzoltan]

Why wouldn't they just give him an earpiece if that was the problem? I know it was 2000s but the tech was there I think

[@noneofyourbusiness4294]

@@jtzoltan how do you expect that to work? When someone is on the phone, it's natural that they don't speak while listening to whoever they're talking to. With an earpiece you just have an awkward pause.

[@ARFreakingAlien]

Charlie was the show, Jake was cute when young, Berta was funny af commenting on charlie actions Jon cryer was amazing as a brother, not as a roommate who leach on walden. With that said. No charlie. No show. The show ended there.

[@khfan4492]

I agree

[@arpitabrahmachari7649]

The actress who plays Berta is dead btw.

[@ARFreakingAlien]

@Johnny BBad well yeah but it was alot more believable when it was charlie that he was leaching on

[@ARFreakingAlien]

@Johnny BBad ah i mean amazing acting, jon cryer was on point with his role, that's why i used his real name and not "Alan"

[@tropickman]

The show did end when Charlie left...

[@ddwow566]

That’s true I really hated how much everyone hated Charlie after he died. Only Alan kept his memory in good heart

[@yorkiemom6144]

And Berta...

[@vincentweatherall8532]

Bruh. Charlie was passing on aids to females.

[@ddwow566]

@@vincentweatherall8532 But his ex-fiance and family didnt care? I remeber him having friends too

[@cristianotv4673]

O

[@Leon_SexKennedy]

I hated how Alan never got a good ending

[@christopherfoley8322]

Herb was the greatest character ever introduced outside the main cast

[@iJackoGaming]

*sorry for replying to an old comment but* Herb was such an awesome character who deserved so much more screen time than he got (with and without Charlie). Ryan Stiles did a fantastic job in that role

[@christopherfoley8322]

@@iJackoGaming Dude, don't apologize for replying an old comment, especially to comment on how awesome Herb(Ryan Stiles) was

[@burnoutparadise4793]

@@christopherfoley8322 I remember when Alan does the chiropractor work on him... and um, messes up

[@marcelsgroot]

Yes he was the best supporting character in the show. I liked it when he had a bit of a crash on Lindsey and being some creepy about it

[@CosmicHarmony58]

Yeah he is definitely 1 of the good ones....I love the episodes where Alan And Herb form a secret friendship out of Judiths knowledge 😂

[@marksilla8276]

*Vee* :Here is how he looked in season 7 *Vee* : Here is how he looked in season 8 *My 144p connection* : *I see no difference here*

[@gullijons9135]

Not just your connection, both shots are pixelated like hell

[@bizarroeddie1]

it's easier to see it watching it, really. He looked terrible in season 8. Pale, skinier, flabby, sweaty and even his haircuts didn't help. He looked like someone recovering from a very serious disease. His voice was raspy for most of the time too. He was a time bomb around this time and would blow up sooner or later.

[@jeffcone1464]

@@bizarroeddie1 ​Na he was just being charlie. I don't think he was aware that these "problems" were being noticed. I'm positive he would of ate a burger and got a tan if you told him to

[@anushkalols]

LMAOOO same

[@bigmaxcc]

Mark Silla 🤣😂my 1 gigabit internet streams multiple devices in 4K no problem

[@jessicastrike5640]

Season 9 should have been the end, Jake left to join the army and had become a man. No more 2 and a half men

[@mechajay3358]

Excatly

[@matheuscruz8574]

Then they brought a lesbian, then a "racially diverse" Jake replacement, it became unwatchable

[@averyeml]

See, if Jake hadn’t left they could’ve turned it into something cool- Jake and his dad could become the “two men” and they could bring in Ashton Kutcher or whoever as a trainwreck of a guy. Either a season 1 Charlie or a season 1 Allen type. And then suddenly these two guys are bringing up a new 1/2 man using what they learned with Charlie.

[@haihai9022]

I'm glad I didn't watch 2 and a Half Men after Charlie "died"

[@albertogarcia2317]

you're right thank goodness I didn't see that rest of the show and I think the last time I saw the show when it was around I think it was Lynda Carter showed up and she almost had sex with Alan but ended up with Charlie's lesbian daughter even though Mrs Carter is straight

[@mourabrazil]

Tell me if I wrong but... I always thought that Kutcher's character could have been created as a younger brother to Alan and Charlie, whom they did not know existed, the result of an affair of their father or mother. That would change the dynamics of the series, with Alan being the older brother who has to control an irresponsible younger brother, a bit of an idiot, partying and unemployed. Walden could be the problem in Alan's life, which Alan has been in Charlie's life until then.

[@shrutimalik2704]

That’s something

[@mohammadahmad8828]

Nice👍🏻

[@maximilianl4453]

To be honest... That idea is genius

[@davidmoncholi6746]

That is a great idea

[@CR-iu2zt]

great idea but whatt happens with the house?

[@presiyanpeev2218]

Herb had to divorce Judith and bought Charlie's house. The chemistry between him and Alan was unmatched

[@AdubsMMA]

Ooh. This would have been cool.

[@__-fi6xg]

yeah but you need a troublemaker to make a good duo or it will get boring quick. Thats why Charlie and Alans duo was able to create so much fun. They are so different, yet when it comes to their mother, they will unite. They aren't the best friends but also don't hate each other. It somehow has that siblings energy.

[@DrSpaceman42]

Totally!

[@SovereignStatesman]

And Alan could have completed his "evil Alan" arc that was coming up, and took over Charlie's music-business writing songs.

[@neilwilliams929]

That may worked .Mind you though .It might have become too complicated with Alan Judith and herb .And herb wasn't the drunken man whore Charlie was but YES " I could see some really weird S**T happening .

[@newcountryguy]

I loved the show until they lost sheen. Once he was gone it was a wrap for me.

[@newcountryguy]

@Jasmine Monquie Lewis whatever 😉

[@adamstaples2918]

I agree despite all of sheens antics he made the show the success it was!

[@newcountryguy]

@@adamstaples2918 he really did. I mean everyone had their part but he was a central figure. As a matter of fact watching an episode right now. 😆

[@newcountryguy]

@Roosevelt Darbey agreed

[@Jutsch80HD]

I'm not entirely sure why but Season 11 is actually really good. All the other Kutcher seasons suck.

[@XDrakeX1]

Jon was the only good guy on the show who actually took his job seriously. They should all apologize to him.

[@raidenstark315]

Doesn't matter anymore now as lex luthor he's winning And charlie not

[@kurtjappy]

Poor john was there the whole time and got paid (in terms of the success of the show) shit.

[@amandalopes3048]

Yes

[@nazgulbarakas5767]

@@kurtjappy how much did he got paid compared to the others?

[@captaindeadpool313]

@@nazgulbarakas5767 he got paid around 600,000 per episode while kutcher earned 700,000 And Charlie 1.8 million.

[@thomasferraro479]

The Office was still good after Steve Carell left, but it wasn't as good

[@bigstinger7380]

plz do the office next

[@christianguerrero70]

Ehhhhhh... it has it's moments but it gets pretty bad pretty often.

[@jovankliska1188]

dunno, in my opinion it became unwatchable after Steve left.

[@tylerlynn3617]

#FACTS🔥💯

[@poopikins]

Nah it just continued to flounder It was never the same

[@joemaguire8131]

Feel like Berta should've gotten more of a shoutout here, she's the one constant of the show, her one liners were the only thing's worth watching in the final 2 seasons

[@andrewcarlton6357]

Berta was the only character that really made this show watchable. It is a shame Conchata died in real life.

[@Robbie_Haruna]

Berta hard carried a lot of the post Charlie seasons.

[@colechung7806]

I was kinda bummed that Chelsea somehow hated Charlie at the funeral considering the fact they still had mutual respect and love for another

[@tylerd1297]

Good observation. Yeah it felt like the writers were having random characters dump on Charlie and it wasnt funny or productive to rebuilding the show

[@colechung7806]

@@tylerd1297 yeah looking back I feel like it was just to dig at Charlie Sheen because of the whole debacle Sheen and Lorre had.

[@tylerd1297]

@@colechung7806 🎯 💯 it was pretty clear from the time it aired

[@markk9458]

They should have had Herb get a divorce from Judith and buy Charlie's house and let Alan stay. Herb could have also taken on some of Charlie's persona since he idolized him.

[@nikolaradulovic5283]

I agree that sounds way better than what they went with

[@alanmountain5804]

What a great idea. herb was hilarious and would have played the part well

[@eduardogutierrez4698]

A prequel of the series would be great

[@tcc17301]

That would have been perfection!

[@mateoairaudo5535]

Totally. I mean, Charlie was irrepleacable, but there were still other ways to keep the show interesting. Herb and Alan were good friends and had great chemistry. Would´ve loved seeing them live together and get into troubles. Also, I think Jake should´ve left in season 9, as he´d already got annoying as hell.

[@RendMaim]

"You picked a fight with a warlock you little worm!"

[@smokeeish77]

at first when i wasn't watching the video, i tought that line was from the show lmao.

[@TheBlazicans]

A warlock with tiger blood coursing through his veins

[@GiovanniAlckmimRusso]

Just some clarification, Sheen was only in verbal fights with Lorre. With the rest of the cast he was chill, but everyone was scared by him because he was deteriorating in front of them. When the season was cancelled, he offered to use part of his salary to compensate the cast. Now about the show, Two and a Half Men is my favorite TV sitcom, although during the final Charlie's years, you could tell it wasn't that good anymore, mostly because Jake became an annoying jackass. For the post Charlie era, I really tried to give it a chance, but I couldn't. They retconned Charlie's character and the girlfriends he had, Alan became a bad character, Walden was pathetic. At least Bertha was still entertaining, still the show was just unwatchable after Charlie was fired. While his other show, Anger Management, hadn't the success he was reaching for, it was much better than the post Charlie episodes of Two and a Half Men. It had a rocky start, but after it becomes pretty good

[@youknowwhoyouare2269]

Oh

[@prettyshinyspaghetti8332]

I loved Anger Management

[@GiovanniAlckmimRusso]

@@prettyshinyspaghetti8332 it's a lot of fun

[@AndrewBarsky]

“Two and a half men is my favorite sitcom” YIKES!!!

[@xiphosmaniac]

@@AndrewBarsky whats so yikes about that opinion? Imagine not liking chocolate cake anymore because you learned nestle makes chocolate at the expense of the environment and native americans.

[@samanthadodd8112]

Never watched it after Charlie left. Sometimes u need to close down a show while it is still making money.

[@marcuscaines9168]

yep, this is a prime example.

[@SovereignStatesman]

Samantha Dodd: there's a saying in Hollywood: "The last season/sequel is the one that loses money." Alan Alda and Jerry Seinfeld are about the only ones who ended their shows deliberately; and even they did it too late. Jerry ended his series 3 years too late, after Larry David left; and Alan Alda was in a 12-year series about a 3-year war.

[@stephenofmilford1216]

me too. i saw some brief clips and that other guy was so bad it was beyond awful

[@SovereignStatesman]

@@stephenofmilford1216 Yep, he's Kelso if he wasn't funny.

[@alanatorre7764]

Charlie never hated Alan, they had a very complicated relationship, but he didn't hate him, and it shows in a lot of situations. And the thing with Charlie's daughter is very unbelievable, since in one of the earlier episodes Charlie thought that he had a child with one of his one night stands and he actually was prepared to do everything in his power to be in that child's life (it turned out the child wasn't his)

[@youknowwhoyouare2269]

In depth analysis...of 2 and a half men.... 😐

[@jib7026]

Yeah, the idea of Charlie's daughter didn't make any sense. As they claimed Charlie knew she was his daughter since her childhood. However, in multiple episodes, Charlie's words & mannerism demonstrate that he doesn't have or atleast know he has children. Like why wasn't she at Charlie's funeral, if she knew him from childhood. Had they claimed her paternity was discovered close to or after charlie's death, that would be more reasonable and interesting.

[@georgezimmerman3334]

Junior High school English class synopsis of the series. A plus

[@lmppadilha]

Charlie and Alan relationship was pure sibling dynamics. They very clearly loved each other. The "Alan roasted" jokes were funny when Charlie did it, with Walden that was just distasteful

[@cristianguerrero6085]

Chuck just kept the show running because he didn't want to admit that Charlie was the star and without him, everything was going to fall.

[@youknowwhoyouare2269]

That may be true................... but I doubt that Haim is stressing over any of this🤭 You have any idea how many shows this guy made??

[@GLBizzie]

@@youknowwhoyouare2269 and nearly everyone of his shows has some kind of a behind the scenes story to tell that is not friendly

[@johnjohan7907]

glazing@@youknowwhoyouare2269

[@BrennanBarrier]

I absolutely love this show, I only own seasons 1-8. I’m one of the ones that stopped after charlie left

[@TheMelMan]

Me too. The show ended with Charlie.

[@alreadybanned-pe6se]

Same here. Walden was a mistake, they could've kept it going any other way. They could've given the house to Alan and let Jake become a Chad and THEN bring in a younger son of Charlie to be the new "half"

[@infoseekerdotmaduro6879]

Ditto. Charlie took the spirit of the show with him. Two and a half men ended at season 8 and was then put on life support.

[@aorosiguh5049]

I did so too

[@fucknutubeful]

Yeah, Ashton Kutcher is THE reason I stopped watching the show. I can't believe it lasted 4 years with him.

[@annadraper8403]

John Doe exactly.

[@marcopoulin1897]

Yes anyway his bad actor whit arogant attitude

[@biblemaniswatchingyoumastu1920]

@@marcopoulin1897 no he’s not?

[@bogus696996]

He was actually pretty good. It was people stuck in a rut who couldn’t get over it

[@stephenofmilford1216]

i agree. he was truly awful

[@klw3786]

To me the show jumped the shark after season 4 or 5...Part of what was funny was Jake being young and naive but as he got older they just made unbelievably stupid and later just a pain in the ass...I watched one episode with Kutcher and it was horrible and the whole premise that Alan, Berta and Jake all stayed in the same house with a billionaire stranger was as dumb as it gets

[@dsimi415]

Well Berta was a housekeeper so it makes a bit more sense why she's stay because she's still (not) be working. But yeah, makes no sense for Alan and Jake to stay

[@dylanf3108]

Berta staying makes sense she actually has a purpose and reason to be there.

[@bendover2684]

Season 3 and 4 were the best after season 6 IT was Just a Habit to watch it

[@Florceleste28]

I agree with the Jake thing. I get that he had to grow up at some point, but they didn't need to make him such an insufferable teenager. It ruined the whole dinamic between the three main characters.

[@michaelplowman8674]

When I heard they were adding Kutcher, I thought, maybe they could make him Jake's actual father and it would explain why they all live together. Kutcher could have been the stripper at Judith bachelorette party and they had a one niter. No one knows the reality until after the Charlie "death" and you have Allen dealing with the reality that his son isn't biologically his, Jake suddenly having a new father, and Walden dealing with being a father.

[@paulwilson2677]

The final episode is truly one of the most bewildering things ever put on television

[@Wahi011]

I liked all of the meta humor it had, but I really hated how they built up the expectation that Charlie would return and then he didn't

[@giovannigiovanni.7220]

@@Wahi011 He wanted to be in it but Chuck wouldn't allow it, I think.

[@strugglesnuggledslime7040]

Far as I remember Charlie would have returned under the premise that the show gets an actual ending(something along the lines of he returns,makes up with everyone and then speaks a few words of wisdom)with the possibility of a spin-off. Chuck refused and instead opted to produce the self indulging monstrosity that the finale ended up being. Quite frankly,at that point Chuck should just have clenched his buttcheecks and gone along with it if for no other reason than to actually give the longtime fans decent closure but nah,turns out he was just as much of a petty ass as Sheen.

[@KariIzumi1]

raped Slime the only thing Hollywood loves more than making money is screwing others out of money

[@cookmeadrinkshow4814]

chuck loree is ultra leftist liberal, when u attack obama, u wont get any roles in hollywood. charlie sheen attacking obama was his final straw with leftist chucky chuck

[@Tere999]

Charlie Sheen was Two and Half Man. They literally kept his first name on the show out of all the actors on that show. You can’t say Two and Half was the same after Sheen left.

[@Bobman-ml5qf]

Berta the housekeeper, was my favorite character on the show.

[@LuxHM]

Charlie was what the hell

[@hm940733]

Same

[@lanadelray2354]

True

[@erion1170]

She gave me big Geoffrey vibes but less British and Black.

[@Bobman-ml5qf]

@@erion1170 Yeah, basically

[@bridawg24]

It was the day Charlie was fired. I just saved you 41 minutes.

[@PovertyD]

Literally everyone knew that but thanks for nothing

[@yeetbaljeeet5435]

Oh shit i didn’t even notice it was 40 minutes long

[@Cango19]

Thanks man

[@user-mo7dd1vt1s]

@@PovertyD Was gonna say that

[@sama9342]

@INFLATED SUCC same

[@katemaloney4296]

Let me get this straight: I will be paid somewhere between 350K to 1.5 MILLION dollars an episode, and all I have to do is show up, know my lines, play nice with my co-workers, speak nicely of my boss, be funny--oh, and, during hiatus, keep my mouth closed--yes to all. Where do I sign up?

[@PONYBOYonline]

You’re missing the part of the equation where people actually care about watching you.

[@hdhshdhs5503]

And having some form of ability to act in a given situation, which you apparently/obviously must lack as you’re here. Like the rest of us >:)

[@silverblade357]

@@hdhshdhs5503 Yup. What Ashton couldn't accomplish with a script and desperate motivation to keep the show going, Charlie did off the cuff while drinking fake* liquor. *citation needed

[@lamondlense]

Basically Jon Cryer honestly

[@ursulamullikin4723]

Is your name Charlie Sheen?

[@allanm2293]

I think they should’ve had Alan move in with Herb but keep Walden with Charlie’s house but he wouldn’t be one of the main characters just some backup character like Herb was when Charlie was still there.

[@frankie2936]

Walden might be the only man who over stayed his welcome in his own house. lol

[@maxman1602]

Charlie had a plot where he finds out he has a kid, and he tried to get involved but the mom doesn't want it (it turns out at the end the kid wasn't his or his ex's, she was just babysitting). With that in mind, I find it hard to believe he would he would knowingly ignore a child and refuse to get involved.

[@paulheap1982]

Maybe he did that to make up for the other?

[@doggytheanarchist7876]

Deadbeat dad's work in mysterious ways. It's seen often IRL, that a parent cares for only one or some of their kids, but not all of them.

[@matthewjones2095]

@@doggytheanarchist7876 i can account for that usually younger the kid the better

[@cristianotv4673]

L

[@jakel5892]

What they could've done (if the show had to be continued) is have Herb buy the beach house and live with Alan. He's an established character that people like and had good chemistry with Jon Cryer. Ashton had neither of those qualities

[@ferrm1992]

The problem with that is that you’d have two buffoon characters, you need a counterpart but at least is a better idea

[@valterpsicofelicita9631]

They had excellent chemistry, but they were too similar: that's good for a scene but not for a whole series. Comedy is base on conflicting opposites (Alan and Charlie were, Alan and Walden also but less).

[@somebody7070]

And herb was ACTUALLY HILARIOUS while Walden was cute and rich ,nothing more

[@woahdatsnoice188]

I underestimated how much watching Charlie spiral down would hurt me. I was 7 at the time, and two and a half men was one of my favorite shows, I loved Sheen. I grew up on sitcoms and they molded me, with two and a half men being among my top 5 most influential. I forgot how hard it was to see him break down, especially as a child. Looking back this reminded me why I always used sitcoms as escapes from the sad real world.

[@GigglewithFelix321]

You watched this at 7?? Did your parents love you at ALL? 😅

[@vladraduandrei5227]

@@GigglewithFelix321 lol right ? I was 7-8 when the show began but I fucking watched it when I was like 13-14

[@jelly.212]

@@GigglewithFelix321 Nah who cares

[@alreadybanned-pe6se]

Jesus is the only escape from this world bro Just saying, take it or leave it.

[@TheGrandmaMoses]

Damn dude, your parents let you watch this when you were 7 years old? With all the sex and the nudity, the double entendres and everything? Sorry to hear it. Sounds definitely wrong in my ears, doesn't it? Also, you had MULTIPLE favorite sitcom shows when you were 7 years old? That's completely baffling to me. Also also, you realized Charlie was spiraling and this hurt you - when you didn't even hit puberty yet yourself? All in all, this sounds like a 22 year old man in the body of a 7 year old, to be honest.

[@ellielulu6750]

One thing that really bugged me was that they just forgot about Alan’s possible daughter with Judith. I stopped watching around season 10 but I don’t think that plot point got resolved either. I would’ve loved it if Alan got back on his feet and raised his daughter rather than just be a complete mooch to Walden.

[@Exel3nce]

cmon, did you ever watch a sitcom? major plotpoints are instantly forgotten or not relevant anymore after the next episode. alan has never money, ever. alan never changed his apprearance even tho he did and so much more i already forgot

[@GLBizzie]

@@Exel3nce unless u are Friends or Scrubs.. Brooklyn 9-9 and Community too

[@chrisspeed270]

​@@GLBizziefriends foget plot points basically throughout the whole series

[@jakedizzle]

Sucks. He needs a Robert Downey Jr moment. He's a great funny actor. He needs help. Macaulay Culkin did it.

[@ExcuseMyWeebRudeness]

Perhaps his version will be Arby's. That place is disgusting IMHO.

[@Jose-se9pu]

Exactly, he needed help, not a studio keep giving him millions of dollars.

[@Idkwhattoput-p2s]

The thing is...he got help but went back to the alcohol and drugs.

[@juliabarrosmachado47]

jakedizzle some people don’t want help

[@MeowHoots]

@@Idkwhattoput-p2s so bojackhorseman

[@topgeardel]

It was obvious when Sheen was doing heavy drugs. It changed his appearance and the way he actually acted. That's when I think the series died.

[@cityhawk]

I think it was perfect storm of a garbage fire. Charlie’s increased drug use, deteriorating writing, and his eroding relationship with Chuck Lorre. Something bad was bound to happen, and it did.

[@TotallyCluelessGamer]

I feel like trying to assassinate a departed lead character's reputation, while trying to make their replacement better than them is a common mistake these kinds of shows make.

[@gitinia]

Allan carried the whole show after Charlie left. Honorable mention to Jeff Strogman. That sh*t was hilarious.

[@tonyc8752]

I started to hate Allen around season 7-8. His annoying shtick was great when he was the good, responsible father who was having trouble supporting multiple divorces, etc. They all had faults, but he was the sensible sane one between himself, charlie, mom and Jake. Eventually, he became a true sociopath and horrible father and became nothing but a narcissistic mooch. Compared to him, Charlie, Jake, Rose and Evelyn started seeming more sane. Then once Charlie was killed, he went full blown horrible. The show worked when he was the yin to Charlie's yang. They were exact opposites (making for obvious and limitless material) but, in the end, they all supported each other. Once the family broke, the show broke. Kutcher didn't have a chance, and it was made worse when the character they created to replace Charlie was terribly uninteresting in every way.

[@gitinia]

@@tonyc8752 Well, yeah. The whole dynamic of the show was gone. There's always 1 guy that does the dumb stuff and 1 guy that's more uptight/stoic (dunno what to call him) to have the jokes bounce oh him. At first they tried to keep the dynamic by making Walden a baby and Alan would be the more "normal" one but then they did a 180 when Walden matured and Alan had to be the more "crazy" one. I don't know to what extened he was a bad dad cuz Jake was gone so there wasn't much focus on him being a father because of that.

[@tonyc8752]

@@gitinia I thought the show's biggest early mistake, was not allowing Jake to mature. It's like they were still writing for a 10 year old, when he was 15. He was more Uncle Charlie than Alan in many respects and I think it would have been good to have written his dialogue as he got older, more similar to how Charlie would think and respond. We'd see the maturity in thought and conversation, and we'd see that he's as big an intelligent smart arse and sarcastic like Charlie and Evelyn. Instead it was fart jokes till the end.

[@gitinia]

@@tonyc8752 I guess they REALLY wanted to keep the original dynamic so they had to dumb him down as he got older to "in a way" keep him on the same level as when he was a kid. Maybe he could have been a replacement for Charle if they hadn't done that but no way for them to know what would happen with Charlie Sheen in the future... And even then, he would have also quit so... It's a mess all around.

[@austinpowersfasjer]

I think Alan was also the best actor in the show, way better than Charlie. Tho Charlie brought the viewers.

[@jaysundj]

When you watch Season 8 compared to the rest of the seasons, watch Charlie's movements. He can never sit still and moves his hand with his speech more often than not. Classic signs of cocaine abuse

[@longgone6312]

Or METH

[@juannaym8488]

It's also a sign of alc abuse

[@VaiderGaming]

I dont really blame him Id of did the same if i had the $ and found out i was HIV+ lol

[@1234KeithB]

@@VaiderGaming 😂💯

[@Rayhatesyou2gaming]

When Charlie Sheen Left And brought in Ashton Kutcher I felt like he was still playing the same idiot pot Head from that 70s show

[@evanchismark3092]

@Raychle Bernoth do you consider steve jobs to be a pothead at any point in his life?

[@superxgaga1]

Evan Chismark his Steve job was terrible, fassbender did a much better “job”.

[@jcee6886]

What 70s show?

[@ctom0641]

@@jcee6886 The show is actually called That 70's Show it's really funny

[@johnnybrown7984]

Raychle Bernoth s

[@DavidC-eo2cr]

When Charlie left, the title became awkward, yeah, and imagine how awkward it was in France and Germany where the title is My Uncle Charlie.

[@vendpy8dzvdnd458]

In germany its named two and half men too

[@catvalentine2706]

Mein cooler Onkel Charlie. That's true

[@DavidC-eo2cr]

In France it's Mon Oncle Charlie.

[@vendpy8dzvdnd458]

@@catvalentine2706 in austria and switzerland, not in germany

[@ahsokatano3310]

Uncle Charlie is the best

[@pigeon2503]

Might have been more interesting if Jake accidentally knocked up a girl and ended up raising his own kid in the house Charlie secretly and unexpectedly left for his brother and nephew (along with his money)

[@lungilemadela1431]

This was my initial expectation for the show after Charlie left. I thought they would inherit the house and money, Alan would have everything he ever wanted but unable to enjoy it because Charlie is gone. Maybe he would marry a woman similar to Charlie to add to the dynamic. Jake would have a younger, smarter brother to compete with now etc. Your teen pregnancy idea is great as well. They could've done so much with what they had. Wasted potential.

[@pigeon2503]

@@lungilemadela1431 I agree with all of that. To expand on the pregnancy idea, it could be interesting if Jake named his son after his favourite uncle and "time shares" the baby with the mother so that the show doesn't have a very young baby /every episode/. One of the storylines I'd have liked to have seen tackled is the potential of Jake ending up in a similar situation as Charlie (as a womanizer) but also ending up like his dad (a loser) and figuring out how he could potentially avoid this route. I'd have liked to have seen them acknowledge Charlie's downfalls, but also agree that they loved him and how much Jake looked up to him. Shame really

[@Lexender]

Maybe, but considering Jakes actor also became a piece of shit to the point he also leaved the show, I really doubt that would different at all.

[@pigeon2503]

@@Lexender I didn't realise there was drama around Jake's actor

[@aliyah2393]

Charlotte L the only drama was that Angus (Jake) discovered religion and was disgusted and disturbed by the show’s plots and inappropriate jokes

[@brettballman5629]

Walden isn’t a bad character he just doesn’t fit as a replacement to Charlie he would’ve been way better as a background character Edit: why does my 11 month old comment have 500 likes

[@ilo3456]

He would have worked better as a supporting character for Alan rather than the one taking the spotlight.

[@mikedriawilliams4311]

@@ilo3456 exactly!

[@buddha3209]

He'd had been a great foil to charlie. Someone who's also successful and younger than charlie and wya more of a ladies man. He could been a good addition. Not a replacement. Missed opportunities.

[@Emil-lf3no]

imagine if they introduced Charlie's daughter earlier

[@devforfun5618]

he would be a perfect neighbor, like flanders to homer

[@oscara8454]

I really like Alan when I watch the show. I found a lot of his insecurities and shortcomings realistic. A lot of guy like to think they're a Charlie but most of us are Alan.

[@Itsyomama007]

Lol wonder why when they think of the show they think of sheen 🥲🥲🥲🥲

[@Outlaw8908]

It’s that dynamic between the two I enjoyed so much.

[@Maplelust]

Alan is a scumbag after season 8. if you like him after season 8, then you have a terrible judge of character..

[@chocmint]

so true

[@oscara8454]

@@chocmint i stopped watching after Charlie left.

[@binaljith2610]

I wonder how the show would’ve ended without charlie and angus leaving

[@alreadybanned-pe6se]

Alan doing a one man song and dance show 👍

[@s8board48]

Charlie would marry Rose

[@redwanhussain5965]

Can you blame Angus though? His character was dead after charlie left.

[@giovannigiovanni.7220]

Agreed. The show died after Charlie but the nail in coffin was when Jake left.

[@dsimi415]

Jake was dead as soon as they turned him from a smart underachiever to an idiotic stoner

[@redwanhussain5965]

@@dsimi415 yeah. Agree

[@Florceleste28]

@@dsimi415 I couldn't have said it better

[@Maplelust]

yeah you can blame him. Angus was a brainwashed dweeb crybaby.

[@mechajay3358]

They should've just ended the show when Sheen was let go. They clearly couldn't carry on without the character you made it for what it was.

[@Arms1234]

Two and a Half Men is freaking great, until they killed Charlie, then it was garbage.

[@brenthaymon280]

The show got really boring after Charlie Sheen left.

[@ankitasarmah2245]

True. I stopped watching since charlie left

[@Will-gi3wg]

@@ankitasarmah2245 that is true yes. However Charlie Sheen was at fault and wasn't the fault of the director and his cast. Charlie had unacceptable behavior and sooner or later, he was gonna get fired.

[@ankitasarmah2245]

@@Will-gi3wg yes I knw. Bt still. His reel character turned out to be his real life character.

[@ForrestFox626]

It was already dying before that.

[@BadWilf]

Personally, I’d have time jumped. Have Alan now owning the house. An adult Jake and his son, having to move in with his dad. I quite liked Waldon. He would’ve worked well as a neighbour or something.

[@thebeaver8456]

Yeah I thought it would have been better and funny if Allen thought he was in Charlie's will and thinks he's getting the house until it's revealed at the end that the house everything went to Jake ( or even Berta lol)

[@Outlaw8908]

I personally would have actually reworked part of season 7. Actually had Charlie marry Chelsea as a sort of possible series finale.

[@Outlaw8908]

@@thebeaver8456 That probably would have been hilarious.

[@pranavitirunagiri8365]

Ye definitely

[@gregrowe1168]

If Charlie was so rich, why wouldn’t Alan have gotten a good sum of money after his death? Who else would he have left it too if not Alan and Jake? Granted I assume he didn’t have a will but wouldn’t they obviously be the ones who would get his money?

[@ZamboniZone]

I always felt they either should have A: Have Alan's Dad show up and reveal he was alive and their mother lied. Then he find's Charlie's black book and starts hooking up with his old girlfriends. Or B: Have Herb and Jake's mom get divorced and Herb moves in with Alan

[@jeanniemaycrawford4466]

I love herb, he would have been better than ashton

[@PresidentScrooge]

Actually option B would have been great.

[@ZamboniZone]

@@PresidentScrooge and also made for some interesting tv. Two divorced dads who were married to the same woman. Part of Ashton's problem was he had no history with any of the other characters

[@waywardlaser]

Asthon Kutcher was on for FOUR SEASONS? All this time I literally thought the one that introduced him was the final season.

[@PeteyGunn]

what would have been a good ending would have been the same for charlie, hes found alive and comes back. Mila Kunis character realizes shes in love with Walden. Walden divorces Allan, gives him 10 or 20 million settlement plus the beach house and two and a half men continue (We all get closure). Now Allan owns the beach house and is rich (final vengeance on Judith) and Charlie and his daughter Jenny (bring her back for the finale) are the tenants. Walden sails off into the sunset with Mila and the black kid

[@MrBrewman95]

PeteyGunn that is a great ending!

[@jeanniemaycrawford4466]

That sounds incredible

[@noneofyourbusiness4294]

Is it much of a revenge on Judith, though? As far as I'm aware, part of why Alan was so broke was that he also had to pay for her, allimony or whatever it's called. So when he goes up 10 or 20 million, what she gets goes up with it, doesnt it?

[@dezooielylat9134]

@@noneofyourbusiness4294 nope. the moment she married Herb, Alan didnt need to pay her any money.

[@-Genxzys-]

I always thought Herb would have been a great replacement for Charlie who ends up splitting up from Judith and moves in with Alan and Jake and starts living the life Charlie did

[@chanendlerbong]

When Charlie died, the entire show died, Jon Fryer respect for u my man u tried when show was at his lowest, like Kobe without Shaq, and also RIP Berta, thanks for all laughs same for original core of Two and a half men 😭❤️💔

[@sylviawaymon385]

Thanks

[@youknowwhoyouare2269]

That's a lot of emotion b😬

[@btv4120]

I'm glad that you mentioned all of the storylines going nowhere in later seasons. That became frustrating and almost felt like there were no repercussions for any events that happened during episodes. Eg. Walden sleeps with Judith and Evelyn and then it never gets mentioned again. Judith becomes less and less present and the storyline with her new kid seems to go nowhere. I don't recall much from later seasons as I forced myself to marathon the last season on a flight home from Europe, but that definitely stood out to me as one of my biggest frustrations with the show after Charlie left. EDIT: Oh yeah and they seemed to just forget about Jenny and Louis as quickly as they added them to the show.

[@CorruptedReality359]

Two and a Half Men was my favorite show at one point. I still enjoy it as long as I avoid the later seasons. I love lowbrow, stupid humor. American Pie is full of that and that's my favorite movie series

[@dimitrilitovsk2372]

I went back and gave it a try, and the beginning is great, the later seasons have a few good moments but not worth sitting through the seasons to see the maybe 4 good episodes

[@mayma4277]

You, sir, spoke my truth. I was nodding the whole time. I was like: "ikr!" the whole 42min. That show is the best ever and it is unfortunate that it got ruined by one person.

[@Karifi]

Chuck or Charlie?

[@FanksCast]

This guy is basically the real life Bojack Horseman

[@FlancitoConCebolla]

Who specifically?

[@anthonyf616]

@@FlancitoConCebolla take a guess lol

[@lilamontoya5609]

🤣🤣

[@GLBizzie]

@@Molderon when I first watched Bojack I thought about Charlie lol

[@ionasappy2732]

knowing the timeline, maybe Bojack was written with Sheen in mind.

[@thurs-b5n]

Two and a half Men was waaaay better than Big Bang Theory.

[@corradoscire5647]

It's two different types of humor they're both great in my opinion

[@everythingisawesome2903]

I used to like The Big Bang Theory when it was just a 4 guy and a girl, but in the later seasons when each and every character started to get into a relationship, that thing totally ruined the show.

[@judeconstantine2767]

Bazinga

[@BeenyTube95]

Big bang theory is a BIG fucking joke. Characters who not only look but sound annoying as fuck as well. This show represents non-sensical humour at its best. Another great example is the simpsons right now.

[@diegobrando6742]

Ehh, not a fan of either, but i could literally not tell you a memorable episode of two and a half men, and I can at least remember things about Big Bang. Both are the type of show you have on In the background while your doing something else just because it’s on

[@cdude9295]

Season One remains my favorite for the simple fact that Charlie's character experienced development. It still had it's funny and silly moments but Charlie Harper continued to grow throughout the season and realize he cared for Jake and Alan deeper than he thought. After that I felt like the show remained stagnant and ignored character development for the remainder of Charlie's time on the show. He would grow and regress interchangeably each week.

[@youknowwhoyouare2269]

You described the highs and lows of bipolar manic depression🎢🌋⛷️

[@DevinMacGregor]

Alan Harper for me just got old after awhile. The show was about two brothers and it felt like they were actual brothers. Charlie Harper had a huge arc. He never had to take in his brother, he gave up a marriage for his brother, and to me his death he would have left the house to Alan. Charlie Harper was always coming out on top but I noticed in his final season in how his character was being portrayed. Charlie Harper regardless of his drugs and drinking always seem to keep his shit together but now Lorre was trying to paint the opposite. Instead Lorre trashed Charlie Harper thinking he was trashing Charlie Sheen. Walden Schmidt just did not work. The show was no longer about two brothers. Alan Harper just got more pathetic. Sure he was a cheap bastard but it was his brother he was mooching off of not to mention as I said earlier, Charlie Harper may have played pranks on his younger brother when they were growing up, it felt like there was genuine brotherly love though. I do not think Lorre understood that. Alan just seemed more of a dick to his late brother. I mean fuck dude, he took you in and you mooched off of him for years yet all he could do is talk in a negative light? I watched the show till the end.

[@JTCurtisMusic]

I actually worked on the set for Two and a Half Men quite a few times (I worked a number of jobs for CBS, as a PA, writing music, etc) and every time I talked to Charlie Sheen, he was the nicest guy in the world. I only talked with him a handful of times, but he always asked "How's the music going" and was just an overall cool dude. Jon was cool too, his riffs between takes were hilarious, and Angus was a cute kid. I know some of the higher-ups I knew were slowly starting to get resistance from his publicist, but I never dealt with that. I left CBS before Ashton took over, but from what I heard, he was kind of a nothing personality-wise. I'm definitely in that camp that Two and Half Men died with Charlie's character, though I had stopped watching it long before that.

[@mistertagomago7974]

Charlie Sheen while seemingly crazy doesnt come across as a naturally mean person.

[@ddwow566]

Hello, do you have any advice for being a PA in film and television?

[@JTCurtisMusic]

@@ddwow566 Other than to do the job you're told, not really. It can be a pretty boring job honestly. Make some connections is probably the best advice I can give. Also try not to act starstruck with talent.

[@ddwow566]

JTCurtisMusic ahh okay and did you get in that field through connections?

[@JTCurtisMusic]

@@ddwow566 Mostly through my father. Insert Nepotism joke here...

[@JazzyEMC]

The man is talented, that's the saddest part of this, he wasted his talent and threw it to the garbage can, now even his life... how terrible the drugs are.

[@CollectorsCorner777]

He threw it away? What? He made like 400 million dollars. If that's throwing it away then what have you done with your life?

[@JazzyEMC]

@@CollectorsCorner777 He could have made 3 times that money and actually enjoy it if he had been sover, he didn't retire voluntarily, he was fired and now is counting his days with the anguish of suffering AIDS, what was the necessity??, he could have it all, his entery life not just a couple of decades.

[@elizabethshelby514]

He looks like baodray

[@DM-lq9dn]

@@CollectorsCorner777 crazy how he is worth only 10 million now

[@bghancock84]

Here you are wrong. He is doing better now, and no drugs so far from a months

[@nanobluelectrobuzz9227]

The show was based on Charlie, after he left it lost its flare.

[@nanobluelectrobuzz9227]

brandon roberts, true.

[@PovertyD]

@@nanobluelectrobuzz9227 I can't believe the show continued beyond one season with Ashton Kutcher

[@nanobluelectrobuzz9227]

Povertyd, if Chuck Lorre canceled the show, it would have stroked Charlie Sheens ego being it was based on Charlie’s life. Chuck couldn’t let that happen.

[@danielwilliamson6180]

From the moment Charlie Sheen left and Ashton Kutcher took over, Two and a Half Men was truly dead.

[@THOMAS2910able]

Thought the first season with kutcher was fine but after that .

[@danielwilliamson6180]

@@THOMAS2910able Kutcher's not a good actor and he wasn't as funny as Charlie Sheen.

[@philward2098]

I generally dislike most ashton episodes of the show but also understand that the shows run wasover w/o charlie. Plus it wasnt entertaining w/o him

[@AshenTechDotCom]

odd, i liked them far more then i expected.. i like Charley as an actor.. but the man needs help... somebody that can help him manage his life and stress... i expected to hate "kelso" in the show but... i found i got past it faster then expected... knowing the story about why it happened...i was also more willing to give it a shot... but then..that 70's show could have so easily moved into "that 80's show" and just had "erik" on as a guest star from time to time... i didnt like the replacement guy at first..but.. before it was canceled..i started to like the show more again..odd as that may sound to some people.. i dont blame them for firing Charley..... i know people who where on crew for 2.5men and some of his movies. and hes always been... a problem child... i feel for him... if the dude would just calm the fuck down, learn to manage his shit... i also...again was shocked how much i didnt hate Kelso..i mean ashton in the show... could have been better..but i also cant blame ashton..he didnt play a clown or fool.. and im sure the writing and direction were more to blame then ashton for the stuff that bothered me...as i have seen him do a good job acting... i would have liked him to play himself though or somebody based on himself... that would have been amusing to me... more so then what they went with...

[@AshenTechDotCom]

note: i cant blame ashton, and i found a good number of the charlie episodes.. just as...lacking sadly...

[@franscorpio1113]

Phillip Ward no lies

[@kellyroberts7268]

Ashton sucks!!

[@stardustman420]

Two and a half men is actually my dad's favorite show and that's why it's my guilty pleasure. and yeah, Charlie WAS that show.

[@Flamingbro69]

We need a Charlie Sheen Documentary on his downfall

[@justmydeals]

There are already about four.

[@penske_material]

I hope Netflix does it. I do live their documentaries lol

[@nonoasailo9690]

The fact that Charlie Sheen really lived like this and probably beyond ..it's like burning a candle on both ends, it was so great that people can predict this!! For me it's the greatest sitcom

[@wednesdaygeckok.7899]

I cant believe how many people forget that Jon Cryer had a decent career well before 2.5Men 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@marklindenthaler3656]

Like Godzilla, ferris Buehler, and inspector gadget!

[@nearlydead7510]

@@marklindenthaler3656 he was in none of those movies lol

[@marklindenthaler3656]

@@nearlydead7510 that's the joke

[@saimcheeda93]

@@marklindenthaler3656 good one. I used to confuse between Cryer and Matthew Broderick

[@Outlaw8908]

I knew...

[@CarKiller92]

When he left they should've just made a spinoff if they really wanted it to continue somehow, the show became abysmal trash after it.

[@thestarisgreen1728]

CarKiller92 I was thinking the same thing a Spinoff would have been perfect its should be called Alan and Walden

[@lunch_trey]

People wanna say the show died when they killed off Charlie, but let's be brutally honest: the show's pulse was slowing down greatly before then.

[@theginimini]

Exactly. I started feeling a decline when they introduced Chelsea and even more so when they introduced Lindsay.

[@shibineb]

@@theginimini I never liked Chelsea. Maybe its just the writing for her character but I never bought her & Charlie as a couple. Also her character had no memorable funny lines imo and that's not great for a sitcom.

[@zekeiwa5837]

It's because Jake grew up and was just as painful and annoying as any other teenager. It also didn't help that Alan was becoming more scummy over time and not trying to be a good person anymore. Also, as much as Berta and Evelyn had one liners and quips, they get tiring and repetitive. Every scene with then involves them being mean and saying something witty which you expect already. A show where everybody is mean spirited towards each other is exhausting because you can't root for anyone anymore. The idea that Charlie was, despite everything, trying to help Alan raise Jake made you forget about the bad things they do. At the end everyone is just so vile you can't root for anyone anymore

[@lunch_trey]

@@zekeiwa5837 So pretty much how most sitcoms go

[@phantomprism7659]

@@zekeiwa5837 I agree with you although I'm curious how that factors into a show like Seinfeld. Maybe you're not a fan yourself but I am and that show sees the characters becoming more mean spirited towards the end. At the start of the show Elaine was just a regular normal women who tried to be a decent person but by the end she was a selfish bitch but honestly I didn't mind it

[@RubyBlueUwU]

Even when I was a child I could tell something was wrong with Charlie in real life, and I didn’t notice any of that shit. It was sad to see it (and him) deteriorate like that rather than winding down the show

[@christopherballero866]

Ryan Stiles is a great actor, Herb from 2 and a-half Men as well as Lewis from Drew Carey Show & from Whose Line Is It Anyway?, and perhaps he could've moved in with Walden & Alan get kicked out. By the time Charlie was fired, rightfully so, nobody liked the characters of Jake or Alan anyways

[@giovannigiovanni.7220]

Uhhh no.

[@theworldisimmense]

Christopher Ballero you wrong

[@troycarrington1966]

That horse was flogged enough even after death. The later years, they grasped at straws to see what would work. I will say that Tyan Stiles is on of the best improve guys on the planet and an underrated actor. Having met him,while working at WB, I can say that he is wonderful person too. (As is Deitrich Bader, Drew Carey).

[@dodgermaven]

I've always wondered how Season 8 would have ended had Charlie not gone on his public meltdown. The season ended with Alan paying back everyone with his Ponzi scheme, that's when the show went on hiatus. Then season 9 we got Walden. I wonder how the season would have ended had it gone its natural plane.

[@SiyabongaAfrica]

I forgot how unhinged Charlie Sheen got before he was fired. This is some epic level public breakdown and what a way to burn bridges whilst salting the earth behind you. I know he got another show afterwards but it didn't seem to last long.

[@andreymor5201]

Which show do you mean

[@GLBizzie]

100 episodes in quiet much for todays standards

[@alreadybanned-pe6se]

Anger Management He shot 100 episodes in 2 years if I remember correctly. Charlie killed it.

[@williamshakemilk2192]

@@alreadybanned-pe6se quality over quantity

[@charlesbezuidenhout5214]

Charlie doesnt have to act he can just be himself, fkn awesome

[@Xeroforte]

yeah because actors are paid to just be themselves.

[@josephstrings7413]

Season eight is the only dvd without bloopers - I wonder why...

[@simplyjuannie5128]

Nothing was funny then.

[@seanmoriarty4515]

the gag reel would have been longer than the actual season

[@cristianotv4673]

O

[@cristianotv4673]

P

[@williamj.dovejr.8613]

Charlie Sheen already knew he was hiv positive before his last regular season.. take a look at his physical condition a season apart. He was unusually lethargic, dramatic weight loss, etc.

[@thomasjeppesen3055]

Personally, I originally thought the first season without Charlie would introduce the new lead as a lost son, from one of his many one night stands. Of course the best way for the show to have ended would have been with Charlie and Alan wrapping it up together at the end of a finale season, but if the show needed to go on after writing off Charlie, then this is how I think it should have gone. My biggest gripe with season 9-12 was how it constantly needed to introduce a new line of hollow characters, when it already had a great lineup of characters in Evelyn, Rose, Judith, Herb, Jake and Bertha. When they wrote of Charlie, it also seemed like they wrote off the majority of the supporting cast, which I think was as big a part of making the show what it was as Charlie was. Therefore, it would make more sense to have introduced a character that would have had a reason to form a personal connection with this established cast - and the best way to do that would be through introducing Charlie' lost son. For this fan fiction, I've dubbed him Chuck. Chuck arrives after Charlie's funeral in the same way Walden appears, rising through the ashes of his father. Chuck is a lady's man, like his father and resembles him in many ways, from mannerism to his sense of humor. Chuck is about the same age as Jake and the two are quick to form a friendship. Chuck, however, according to Judith has a bad influence on Jake, which she constantly brings to Alan's attention. Evelyn decides to often drop by to spend time with her new grandson. Rose immediately forms a crush on Chuck and sleeps with him, only to obsess over him the same way she obsessed over Charlie. The heart of this season, however, is Chuck's forming relationship with his uncle Alan, who tries to gain the friendship of his lost relative. In the hypothetical pilot episode we learn that Chuck grew up with no male rolemodels and is resentful of Charlie for not being a part of his life. Through some sitcom logic, Chuck inherits the beach house and wants to throw out most of his father's furniture, redecorating everything. Alan, however, protests against this, scolding Chuck and lecturing that his father would never have left him behind had he known he existed. Chuck has a change of heart and decides not to renovate the house, allowing the set to stay unaltered for the rest of the series runtime. Chuck wants to know more about his father and Alan does his best to tell him everything. Chuck believes he isn't good for anything and his life is nothing but fooling around with random chicks. The pilot episode ends with Chuck sitting down by his father's piano, deciding that he wants to learn how to play it.

[@lucapeyrefitte6899]

thomas jeppesen wow I would read a long fanfiction about this, it's really interesting

[@pacoramon9468]

Being better at writing that Chuck Lore is really easy.

[@shramanadasdutta3006]

This is awsome

[@sebicmiel4221]

I'd like to read more! That's awesome

[@thomasjeppesen3055]

Should anyone be interested, here are some follow up ideas for this fan fiction. I imagine this ‘spinoff’ to last approximately 2-3 seasons, leaving the series with a total of 10-11 seasons. During this time, the characters will go through a final character arc that will leave them at their fulfilling destination by the end of the series. Jake will grow from a slacking teenager into a competent, hard-working adult, who will find a career through his passion for cooking - as previous seasons set up. He will then go on to own his own deli/foot truck and gain a true sense of responsibility. One episode sees him standing up to Lindsay’s son Eldridge, proclaiming he wants to do something with his life instead of wasting it (presumably after Alan or Chuck have discussed the subject with him). Alan’s arc will evolve around his gaining some self-respect. After the first 8 seasons did everything to humiliate Alan, the last season(s) will see him try to regain his life - perhaps after realizing how he has been a poor influence and role model for Jake, perhaps even worse than Charlie ever was. His attempts to chance his life, however, will happen through a continuous series of hilarious failures, as he tries to figure out how he will reclaim his dignity. He makes a list of things he will do to improve himself, including gaining guardianship over his daughter with Judith - something, he may regret along the way. Also, down the line, Kandi gets remarried and Alan is free from paying her alimony, leaving him with disposable income. Whether he moves out of the beach house in the finale or inherits it from Chuck, I can’t decide, though. Chuck is on a journey to become a man, but lacking role models in his upbringing have left him with no true understanding of what it means to be a man. His struggles do not become any less, when he arrives at the beach house, since the only role model there is Alan and the memories of Charlie. Chuck has a hard time understanding what person his father was, since people have conflicting stories about him. I imagine Chuck hanging out with Herb one episode (since Herb is kind of the only positive role model in the show) and Judith ends up insulting Charlie in front of Chuck, leaving Chuck puzzled. Alan sits down with Chuck by the end of that episode and tells Chuck that Charlie was a good person to some and a bad to others; he was a human being and while he made mistakes, he had a good heart. Another episode sees Chuck inheriting his father’s jingle royalties and suddenly Chuck is rich. He starts throwing wild parties at the beach house, starts to drink heavily and use his money to sleep with a lot of woman. Chuck has never had a lot of money growing up, so to suddenly become rich over night overwhelms him. He proclaims he is set for life, however, that changes by the end of the episode; at the end, he realizes how little he has accomplished with his life and that his father wasted a lot of his potential on drinking and woman, and he wants to go a different way. He buys Jake a food truck for some of the money, because Jake wants to move out. The series end with Jake being a responsibly adult, Alan a man with renewed dignity (whatever that involves) and Chuck knowing what kind of man he is/wants to be.

[@pamcailloux5296]

Charlie and Allan had a chemistry no one can match

[@alreadybanned-pe6se]

The Odd Couple ...the show Two and a Half Men is modelled after, actually great funny old show and the two guys had great chemistry.

[@D7RE.]

I started watching this show after it ended and binged it i did notice in the end Alan was the character that heavily got damaged and unbearable.

[@wrigh2uk]

When Charlie left, for me Alan carried the show single handedly. While Charlie was undoubtedly the star prior to leaving , the chemistry between him and Alan was effortless, and gave some sort of balance.

[@AkaThePhoenix]

"Do you watch The Big Bang Theory?" "No." "You don't like it!?" "No." "Well... Aren't you a nerd?" "Yes. And it's a dumb show." Glad to know my hatred for TBBT is shared by another.

[@zer0953]

belupo LAUGH TRACK

[@ΑΡΙΣΤΟΤΕΛΗΣΛΑΧΑΝΟΠΟΥΛΟΣ]

I am a nerd and I love the show. Or rather, the early seasons of it, before it became solely about relationships

[@alexandersttk]

I hate this "nerds like tbbt" stuff...it's just so blunt and basic, especially about nerdy stuff so it won't antagonize other watchers . If you want a nerdy show community is streets ahead.

[@AkaThePhoenix]

@Kimmminem West Hahahaha yeah. It's definitely not.

[@BrodyLuv2]

TBBT is a Chinese inside -joke... as the fact that in 'Merica the stars of TBBT are what's considered intelligent by 'Mericans ... and as a result of being their example of 'Merican intelligencer, they have the lowest chance of procreation. Yes, Americans (APART FROM AMERIKIMS AND AMERIKHANS) breed with the thickest our Earth has to offer .

[@BeardedTurtle]

You had me at the lets stop shaming enjoying low brow shows

[@jaimelawrence7811]

When Charlie left they got rid of his mom, rose, burta they were big parts of the show

[@debbierandall6256]

Jaime Lawrence They did NOT!

[@Mitchell_Kirkbride69]

Rose didn't really appear as much as she used to but Evelyn and Berta did

[@brittneybrisbin744]

They were all still there but not as much. The only character I think was there often was Berta, but that made sense because she worked there.

[@jusayenso8186]

@@brittneybrisbin744 ....Actually, she barely "worked" there, which was often funny! ..."I'm not cleaning that up!".

[@brittneybrisbin744]

@@jusayenso8186 I loved her! "Somebody should clean that up!" Rip Conchata❤.

[@thataurus2492]

I'm still shocked about him having HIV I didnt really follow his career to know how bad his lifestyle was until he started being on the news a lot

[@shefchenko111]

This is the only comedy show I rewatch every year.... only the first 8 seasons.

[@ayushverma1354]

"You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become a villain"

[@rubenmunoz6031]

Honestly,in a perfect world Charlie&rose get married with a proper marriage/well developed relationship .not rushed ,show there kids as well. Charlie, allen and there mom solve there issues most likely in a trapped in something 1 hour episode.that would bring tears to tha eyes. even have a sweet brotherly flashback with charlie n allen during there father's funeral or just something emotionally small Allen finally leaves charlie,judth &lenzie.as a fully developed character. Who stands up for himself ,does as he likes ,stronger and ready to see what lies ahead. Quiting his job. Have him hug Charlie goodbye , then steal one of his cuban cigars, smoke it as he walks off into the sunset with his jacket over his shoulder Jack simply becomes a chef ,even admits to berta he's not actually dumb he just acts like it. To get judth to stop arguing with allen all the time. Show scenes where judth really gets on allens ass, til she turns her attention to jakes stupidty. Berta gets the beach house as a thank you from charlie, plus a weekly Check

[@sleepy9102]

Ruben Munoz this ending is picture perfect. However we can’t have it all sadly.

[@cpjj89]

Ehhh I don't want Charlie to be with rose.

[@rubenmunoz6031]

@@cpjj89 you will with a good developed mature relationship.

[@rubenmunoz6031]

@@sleepy9102 yup cuz charlie sheen wouldn't be open to it & chuck can be repetitive with his story telling and go no where. He'd probably turn the ending down. There egos are to big to write a proper ending

[@animejerk05]

Rose is crazy the marriage with Charlie wouldn’t last

[@markmagician2471]

Charlie made Two and a Half men after he left the show sucked

[@franscorpio1113]

Mark Welch facts

[@mamahuevo10]

Mark Welch punctuation, my friend. please use it

[@Sylven00]

@@mamahuevo10 Capital letters, my friend. Please use them.

[@cwatson42785]

@@Sylven00 Lol, funny that Mr Cereal was so focused on not F'ing up his punctuation, he forgot something as 1st grade as punctuation. What a fail....

[@mamahuevo10]

Chris Watson funny that my point wasn't that your sentences need to be grammatically perfect, but that if you want people to understand what you're saying you should throw a comma or two in there.

[@CJBerdomas]

It’s funny that Charlie was making fun of Chuck’s stage name when Charlie Sheen is a stage name.

[@brittneybrisbin744]

"Carlos Irwin Estevez". Interesting.

[@TrapHausCreo]

His real name is Carlos which is basically Charles therefore Chuck too lol

[@scaccu]

​@Chuck Haggert you may think that native americans/incas descendents are "hispanic" because the language they speak but this still doesn't make "spanish" a race, even canadian is a race? When i watch Martin's traits i see a caucasian guy, like the majority of spanish people (if you consider north african immigrants as actually representatives of being of spanish heritage. if not spanish people are 100% causasian).

[@saimcheeda93]

Also that Chuck and Charlie are both nicknames of Charles

[@stevonwhite8933]

@@scaccu His brother got all the MENA looks from the Spanish tho

[@kingofrivia1248]

No matter what people say the story was well written. It got complicated at times and the stories were always interesting and fresh

[@GAdawg2k8]

They should have had Charlie leave his home and assets to Berta. It would give Alan a reason to be the mooch he was born to be. Ashton wasn’t a bad choice, but he was filler. Then to shoehorn an illegitimate daughter who was a female Charlie was just stupid. “Hey, let’s not just cast Michael Kelso, let’s get someone to play Charlie’s gay girl-crazy illegitimate daughter. That’ll work, right?” They should have tried harder to make a good series.

[@87654321j]

For me in my opinion Charlie never lost a beat from season 1 to 8 always perfect delivery hope he's doing better now though 😊

[@El_09-19]

Loved this show but It died when Charlie left 💯