The DBZ Movie With A Plot! - DBD: Dragon Fist Explosion!! If Goku Won't Do It, Who Will?

Dragon Ball Dissection concludes its look at the original 13 DBZ films. There's a hero trapped in a music box, and he's the coolest thing ever. Or at least Trunks thinks so! What does Goku have to do with this? Less than the title would suggest.
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[@Morgil27]

"If Goku won't do it, who will?" sounds like a thesis statement for the Buu arc.

[@roberthansen5727]

I won't mess up your 69 likes

[@leafbladie]

Btw, surprised you didn't mention Chrono Trigger at all when talking about Tapion

[@mrbanks456]

Yeah it's like an RPG invaded Dragon Ball in this movie.

[@MsDarkz123]

@@mrbanks456 I mean you could say the same thing but in reverse for every Dragon Quest: *"Look there! The Dragon Ball cast are actors for these RPG games!"*

[@MegaRay220]

Wait yeah, did Toriyama design Tapion?

[@ZeroX7649]

That's a good thing

[@Atrain204]

Considering CT came out a few years before Zelda 64, it would be appropriate. Maybe Z64 was actually inspired by DBZ..!

[@sndark6241]

Actually fun fact about that near identical younger brother? You know how you mentioned his similarity to Link? Well guess what, his voice actress, Matsumoto Sachi, would not only pop up in the _other_ N64 Zelda game as Skull Kid, but would actually end up playing Link himself in Wind Waker, and since that's technically a different Link from the usual child Link incarnations (Bless the art style shift) she's technically still playing the role... assuming they're not just using stock audio anyway.

[@MistareFusion]

Oh, wow. I did not know that! Thanks for sharing that with me!

[@MsDarkz123]

Toon Link has a different voice for Spirit Tracks I think but I guess it works cause it's not the same Link as in Wind Waker and Phantom Hourglass.

[@sndark6241]

@@MsDarkz123 yeah in Spirit Tracks it was someone else, and yeah, probably just because it’s a different Link altogether.

[@_.Lucifer_Lightfall._]

No way! Small world! Such a small world! WOW

[@ThelronFjord]

12:31 I think the reason why Trunks is so trusting of Tapion despite him being so rude to him could be because Trunks is used to getting the somewhat similar treatment from Vegeta. Maybe. I don't know, maybe I'm putting too much thought into it, or not enough.

[@paintbrush3554]

Makes total sense.

[@chrismic8087]

Well, Vegeta is a dick to his kid, but he's proven he has goodness in him, considering this movie is post Boo arc. So maybe Trunks sees Tapion being an asshole but is like naaaaaah ya ain't foolin' me, you're secretly a good guy

[@Darkflo23]

21:30 To be fair to Tapion, he was probably so sleep deprived that his judgement could have been really screwy, god know i did stupid things when i was working late.

[@bocodamondo]

lol, i had no idea thats the movie's original title its like they decided to make the movie with goku's dragon fist finishing move as the first concept and then worked their way backwards into creating the rest of the story, thats just soo funny to me for some reason lol and yet that scene still felt like it came outta nowhere where goku suddenly knows how to beat Hirudegarn

[@tiablue9106]

for all the DB movies they wrote the title first, then the plot. that's why for the japanese titles it's usually a spoiler, smth barely relevant to the actual movie or both. I think most will agree the english titles are better

[@Jose-se9pu]

Considering how much Goku uses that move in GT, Toei was really proud of it. I dont mind, it looks cool AF.

[@redlinrangerstudio5331]

oh hey there, its been awhile since we last heard from you

[@RealSethery]

This movie was my favorite for quite a while, mostly because my 10 year old brain described it as “Dragon Ball Z vs Godzilla.” Two of my biggest obsessions at the time.

[@codybethel4142]

This is the most relatable thing I’ve seen in the past month

[@theradionicrevival8068]

It's honestly never Been high on my list, I barely even think about it^^ Despite that, as a kid all the way til now, I always loved the vibes the scenes of characters just vibing in normal environments had And as an adult, I specifically recognize this as one of the very few OG dragonball movies that actually felt like a movie with actual substance in it And honestly I still find that really cool (and kinda sad in retrospect)

[@AnimeAjay]

It's my favourite of the OG movies by quite some margin. Definitely has a lot of bizarro issues, but I find the character of Tapion so fun that it's super easy to overlook the other aspects.

[@batguy39]

Peak

[@spritvio639]

A very poetic end for the DBZ movies. What better way to go out then to sum up the last arc we just watched? Goku in the background while other characters get developed for most of the time and coming in at the very end to steal everyone's thunder to save the day. Good job movie 13, good job.

[@TheAzulmagia]

I haven't seen this movie before, so it came as something of a surprise to hear that Videl gave someone the LowTierGod speech. That said, I wish Great Saiyaman 2 was canon to the manga as opposed to Videl just being a house-wife. It would've been a nice way to show that the events of the Buu Arc did at least take her in a different positive direction.

[@kingp260]

Frieza: *comes back for the 50 millionth time* Goku: "Your life literally is as valuable as a summer ant. I'm just gonna stomp you and you're gonna keep coming back, imma seal up all my cracks, you're gonna keep coming back. Why? Cause you KEEP smelling the FUCKING syrup!!!! You worthless bitch ass nigga!" ​

[@momofleecy5743]

Wait ,really what's the time stamp

[@TheAzulmagia]

@@momofleecy5743 15:11

[@momofleecy5743]

@@TheAzulmagia Thank you

[@spritvio639]

"Your life is NOTHING, you serve ZERO purpose."

[@borico62]

24:28 I've always had a theory regarding Vegeta's absence for most of the movie. I don't know enough real-life details to know how plausible actually is. After movie 12, it's clear that Toei completely bought what Toriyama (through Piccolo) said just before Vegeta's sacrifice that he would be gone for good. In movie 12, it's made obvious that Vegeta is only coming back because of the Janemba chaos, and he disappears again when everything is solved. Probably manga readers were expecting Vegeta to come back at some moment, but it seems Toei believed what Piccolo said. I think movie 13 was developed according to what Toei thought was the most likely outcome after the Buu arc: that everything would return to normal and almost everyone would return to life, but Vegeta wouldn't. Thus, they didn't include Vegeta in the movie. However, eventually Toriyama brought Vegeta back to life. I suppose these movies take some development time, and Vegeta's manga revival happened when the movie was too far in development to make major changes. All Toei could do was to add a single extra scene where Vegeta appeared, to avoid people wondering where he was. Again, I don't know how plausible this is.

[@asherzerbib3461]

Never thought of it like that. I understand, but still wish his contribution had been acknowledged a bit more.

[@cellperfecto421]

I totally believe this is the case.

[@MistareFusion]

I think that sounds very plausible. I really wish that had occurred to me. =P

[@mr.protagonist5639]

Yeah this makes sense

[@Ruldolphmaker]

Very. if this movie comes out about a month and a half after the manga ends, that means Vegeta's revival (Chapter 514 of 519) would have been all of 5 weeks before the end of the manga. - The staff would only have had around 2.5 months to sort the situation out. Not nearly enough time to write a new draft, but plenty of time to slip a single scene that adds nothing into the movie. Just make it pretty and you're good to go.

[@kinggoldark3853]

I find that Dragon Ball excels when it weights the character interactions and development over musclebound meatheads smashing into each other, so this movie is one of my favorites. The only other film that comes close is (the first half of) Super Broly.

[@YossarianVanDriver]

Man, the theme song for this film rocks. I love it so much! Anyhow, I think most of the "wait, what's the intention here?" stuff is just down to this being like, 90 minutes' worth of movie in 50 minutes. Sure, Bulma's artificial box-room (sure, this is a wild cartoon universe where magic and sci-fi blur into each other) was *meant* to make you think it'll work, but we don't have time to show multiple days where it does at first and then it doesn't. Videl's *meant* to be just generally grumpy at Hoi at first and slowly start feeling the adventure, but we don't have time to do more than suddenly cut to her being excited. ...speaking of Videl, maaaaaan do I prefer her snappy characterisation and "on the same wavelength of goofy cosplay fun" relationship with Gohan than her weird depressing transformation into a meek housewife in modern Dragon Ball. Like, people like to joke Toriyama ends up doing that with female characters, but none of the others' *personalities* actually change (#18 remains as menacing as ever)...but Videl is like, unrecognisable, to the point Super is able to get a /surprise/ moment out of her acting strong-willed for a change.

[@AmitCinematicUniverse]

Honestly, if anyone should have an attack associated with a dragon, it should be Piccolo.

[@gespenst1329]

True (but he dipped from the movies after 9).

[@PrimeroJinJusuke]

In Germany, they combined movie 12 and 13 into one cinematic movie and replaced all of movie 12‘s score with movie 13‘s score. Which means you get to hear Tapion‘s ocarina not only in movie 13, but also in movie 12.

[@samueloak1600]

Why though

[@PrimeroJinJusuke]

@@samueloak1600 Maybe to keep the illusion that it's not two movies mixed into one even though it obviously is? Maybe because having two different sounding scores (even though it's from the same composer) would have been jarring? I don't really have the answer.

[@theradionicrevival8068]

Shot in the dark, but is there any rips, cuts, clips or even regular footage of these releases of the movie out there somewhere? I kinda wanna see that now lmao

[@marxist-leninist-protagonist]

@@PrimeroJinJusuke but why join them though

[@PrimeroJinJusuke]

@@marxist-leninist-protagonist Probably because they wanted a feature-length film. DBZ movies are too short, so having two movies merged together would result in a longer runtime. Saban did that too with Digimon. Merging 3 movies into 1.

[@PureMaddnessOne]

The Dragonfist (aka Ryūken) attack is basically the next stage of the attack (or at least a variation on it) that Goku used against Piccolo Daimaō.

[@mohamedkhider6998]

U sure about that But I really don't know how the technique works My head Canon is that goku turn his ki into a random creature be it a dragon or monkey and it deals so much damage

[@Freezer94]

This feels like even more the end of an era then the Buu arc ending. Though it's also a nice gateway into GT since the dragon punch is probably more associated with that show.

[@slifer875]

nah, when i think of dragon fist i think of SSJ3 goku doing it, but it was neat when goku use it in GT.

[@fridaynightnicktoons6885]

It makes this movie canon since it’s how goku got dragon fist for gt and contradicts nothing

[@slifer875]

@@fridaynightnicktoons6885 the only canon in dragon ball is the original manga.

[@samueloak1600]

@@slifer875 Not really

[@bussinnutsfuckinbutts5368]

@@samueloak1600 yes really. It's the original story, the only true canon

[@Gameplayer-vm5ml]

24:23 I can't help but look at this shot and think of the 90s animelabs subtitles about how the "fucking bastard" Hirudegarn broke Vegeta's house.

[@Jose-se9pu]

This movie was surprisingly "deep", and a really cool peek at what a post-manga Dragon Ball world would be like.

[@fabledredeyes]

Regarding Bluma's Box I think it's just the 'science can't compare to magic' trope, and Tapion accepted because he *wanted to believe*. I mean, the man had been sleepless for god knows how long. I would be ecstatic if I was offered the opportunity. Ultimately, I think both 'it didn't work' and 'Hirudegarn became too strong' work together, in a diminished capacity; Bluma had an idea that maybe could have worked at some point, but it was too late. All in all, man, I love this movie. Even the Bakuretsu Ryuken, being a self-indulgent out-of-context setpiece, it looks cool as fuck. And they could've included it in the movie's plot! Maybe Tapion knew the attack as some sort of ancient konnatsian technique and only goku at super saiyan 3 was strong enough to use it properly. They wouldn't even need more action, just dialogue.

[@chrissullivan6572]

Wild it's been 10 years. This series got me through the pandemic

[@cameronturner2686]

I just wanna say thank you, you truly bring a unique experience to dragon ball I wish other creators did this with other series

[@Fanatic_Foremem]

wasn't the decision to name hirudegarn based around Hirutas reaction to the monsters design? that's what I've always heard and it makes more sense that his reaction would inspire the name than the name inspiring the reaction and that reaction then inspiring the finalized name.

[@MistareFusion]

Um, hmm. It looks like you're right about that! I don't know how I misread that the way I did.

[@Morgil27]

Lately I've been watching a lot of the older Ultraman shows from the 70s, and I'm now actually seeing a lot of similarities between this movie's plot and a typical episode of those shows. Random evil alien shows up and charms the good guys. Convoluted plan to release a Kaiju on the city. Good guys fight kaiju but are ineffective. Titular hero shows up at last minute and kills kaiju.

[@KotolakChaosu]

You don't even know how much joy You gave me mentioning Castor Troy. Now I am relating to You even more: we're both the same age (born in 86'), both are fans of the same things (Dragon Ball and Power Rangers), and now You're telling me that You were listening to these AMVs like mad?! Dude, Piccolo's might Giga Mix and Gohan's Explosion Remake were my jam back in 2001 among many others. It's mind blowing that even though we are apart thousands of kilometers and grew up with a different localized version of the series (I am from Poland and judging by Your surname there is another connection) our memories as a fans are so simillar. High five, my friend!

[@sonicmariogaming2222]

For me this movie really shined when it focused on the characters and interactions. It was just really great to see them all having some downtime. It makes me wish we got to see more of the great saiyaman duo but after this it’s practically non existent…but I think my biggest gripe with this film is obvious, Goku stealing Trunks' kill. The dragon fist is cool and all but it just annoys me that this could’ve been a defining moment for Trunks. But hey, excited to step into the Grand Tour with GT!

[@leonardofarias8843]

I wonder if cutting that tail affected Hirudegarn’s power level because he did nothing to Goku afterwards

[@mechajay3358]

Wrath of the Dragon, which I'm calling because it's way better than the original title, is definitely one of the more better Dragon Ball films Pre-Battle of Gods. Trunks and Tapions sibling-like relationship is one of the true highlights of the film. It feel cinematic and the visuals are amazing. Taipon is my favorite DBZ Movie Characters with how his design being based of the Chrono Trigger series.

[@leafbladie]

The Dragon Fist is probably my favorite attack, I just wish it had been set up better

[@kingp260]

This is definitely my favourite Z movie, although I share the same sentiment as most fans that GOKU SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN IN THIS MOVIE. He has no relevance to the plot and it should have been Trunks or Tapion (or even both) that took down Hirudegarn. This could have easily been achieved by setting it before the 25th Budokai, because then Goku would be dead, but oh well.

[@dante_02]

Just like with Fusion Reborn, I adore this movie because of the small character moments I have given up on current DB due to how much it focuses on power and fighting, while messing up everything else on its way, and these two films were some of the best material we got in that regard, even if it wasn't as good as it could've been In my hearth, they are both somehow canon

[@cuac232]

I don't know why I expected a 10 minute section tearing into the Goku asspull finale. But short and simple is good, too!

[@SaturnineXTS]

"This movie succeeds when it comes to emotion, it fails when it has to show its work in regards to logic" - holy shit bro, I'll be damned if that's not the best summary of Dragon Ball GT ever put to words. Piccolo's sacrifice? They could have smashed the fucking balls, the manga states dragon balls are destructible and it's been known to happen. The ending? Shenron doesn't even work that freaking way lol

[@capitaokaede]

I binged the entire thing playlist, just finished yesterday... BAM! New video ^^

[@ilyas_elouchihi]

You made my day bro, I adore your analysis to Dragonball, helps me understand the series more deeply

[@danielquinlan2457]

27:27 I have mixed opinions on the "Is Ultimate Gohan a transformation or a permanent state" argument. On the one hand, the idea that's presented in the manga - that Gohan can access his full power without the need to transform - is just about the only interesting thing about it, which is ruined if you treat it like a black haired Super Saiyan form. On the other, Ultimate Gohan *_is_* admittedly a huge downgrade visually from his normal design, so it's nice that they didn't throw away his normal look entirely in this version.

[@flaco3462]

I personally don't think it really matters and Ultimate Gohan is just like something that's really easy for him to tap into which is part of what makes it really powerful, it's like a lightswitch for him or something. I agree on it looking stupid though Gohan never looked interesting with short hair to me, especially wearing a lesser version of his dad's Gi

[@ZeroX7649]

I think Super Hero will give him a new transformation so we can sweep Mystic Gohan under the rug and finally call it a day.

[@MaxIronsThird]

@@ZeroX7649 Mystic Gohan with Teen SSJ2 Gohan's hair.

[@EmeralBookwise]

I'm kinda inclined to prefer it as a transformation, if only because it allows Gohan to continue looking like his old more carefree self when not fighting. That said, I think the light switch analogy works best. Unlike Super Saiyan, it's not something he should have to power up into. The power is always there just beneath the surface and Gohan can pull it out with little more than a blink of his eyes which are the only thing of substance that changes. It's less of a physical transformation and more like a state of mind, it's what happens the instant Gohan starts taking a fight seriously. *Addendum:* to be clear, I'm specifically referring to this younger version of Gohan, when I say the power is always there and he can pull it out in a blink. I'm conversely fine with how DBS handled it, that with lack of training he lost access to this state for most of that series, and how even upon regaining it he still couldn't use it quite so effortlessly anymore. It's sorta to Gohan what Ultra Instinct is to his dad, a power that can be integrated into his base form, but which still requires discipline and training to achieve that state.

[@theradionicrevival8068]

Ye same, while it bugs me, if they’re not gonna use it the way its meant to be used, good, ultimate gohan looks like shit a third of the time anyways. At most i just wish we had a DragonBall brotherhood or jojo adaption treatment that had the hindsight to foreshadow and streamline plot details that wind up accidentally going to nothing in later parts of the story. When you know what Ultimate Gohan is supposed to be, even if you don’t like it, it makes seeing it used in such an odd way, distracting but ultimately leaves you feeling like the transformation was even more pointless than it already was.

[@benjarnavich8476]

I cant wait for the GT and animated Buu arc! I have loved this series you’ve made ever since i learned of it last year. I binged the entire thing while working on college assignments or going on about my day. You have made me see a lot of this franchise in a different light and i like that. I can tell you love Dragon Ball and that it is okay to be critical of things we like. Its been fun watching this and i hope youll go on into super and its manga lol, would love to get a full breakdown from you on that.

[@deterlanglytone]

Speaking of the sword. I do recall a few fan attempts to adapt the plot here to the Future Timeline in order to make Future Trunk's sword to be that sword. It's... probably one of the better elements of the comic. I don't think it works entirely, because Buu Saga level threat versus Weak Future Gohan and Pre-Super Saiyan Trunks isn't really a good idea. And even if we're to remove the power scaling. The Android's presence would probably end up with Gohan and Trunks dead even if they won.

[@drauncj]

Just discovered this channel yesterday at the suggestion of a different channel. Binged all of DBD TV and DBD Movies and Specials in 2x speed since then. I have no idea how I would have coped with waiting for new installments to come out over the years. I'm SO glad I came in now, when there's just a chunk of the final bits of the anime left!

[@marcus7984]

My favorite DBZ movie, even now. Been a long time coming for this video! But I'm happy we're here finally! Tapion and Trunks's friendship I always really loved, it's the only time Trunks can be a character. Tapion was always a favorite of mine, Dragon fist well dumb, it's cool and I really like seeing it in games and GT.

[@justinmiddleton8818]

Interesting little tidbit there how Tapion's sword looks almost identical to Future Trunks' own. This is clearly some cute little Easter Egg type reference they threw in there. It's not supposed to imply that this is how Future Trunks got his sword, given that present timeline Trunks and his future counterpart are two vastly different versions of the same character.

[@MaxIronsThird]

and there is no Dragon Balls on earth in Trunks' future, so no Tapion there, maybe at New Namek.

[@aaronhaze7033]

I only really like, in terms of the original 13 Dragon Ball Z movies, Cooler's Revenge, Broly: The Legendary Super Saiyan and this one. To speak about its visual value, Wrath of the Dragon has great art work. Not only that, but the character focus is what really intrigues me. The fact that Tapion, a character who we have not met before and has such prominence, makes the film feel original. Its identity is like that of a final ballet. And that's what this is. It is the final of the original Dragon Ball films. And honestly, I think they go out on a high note.

[@richardjohann552]

No, I'm not in a hurry. I've been with you since pretty much the beginnings of DBD, and I'm in it for the long haul. Keep producing good content.

[@ezepoliyu]

Great video as always

[@dip.918]

It's two days before my 17th birthday, and I've been watching since Frieza. I can't believe I grew up with this! Thanks, MistareFusion!

[@jamesmullally4151]

I realized that he’s not gonna call Gohan’s ultimate form by name until he gets to the most recent chapters of super in like 10 years

[@TheRealBlackarrot]

Funny story: in 2000 I wake up with this tune in my head that I can't place, hours later I go to my local comic store & pick up a bootleg DBZ movie 13. Imagine my surprise when Tapion is released & playing the tune I woke up with. Weird huh?

[@saadkhatib3456]

That’s strange ?

[@TheRealBlackarrot]

@@saadkhatib3456 If waking up with a melody you've never heard before & then randomly finding its origin a few hours later isn't a bit strange then what is?

[@cajozack]

I too prefer the Gohan transformation here. It’s so subtle but noticeable at the same time and I love that. And I love Gohan having open eye lines

[@miketate3445]

Here is my main problem that I can't get past: At this point, I just flat out don't buy that there is a problem that can't be solved by Ultimate Gohan punching it.

[@ramonortizjr7666]

Sweet video, Fusion!

[@fybso3057]

This was one of the most memorable movies and tabion is a very cool edgy character, wier he didn't end up in FighterZ

[@PrimeroJinJusuke]

Tapion isn‘t a fighter. He never even swings his sword to fight anyone. Most of his moves in the video games are video game-exclusive. That said, they gave No. 17 one of his video game-exclusive moves.

[@kingp260]

@@PrimeroJinJusuke Tapion is a fighter. He wouldn't have a sword if he wasn't...

[@PrimeroJinJusuke]

@@kingp260 It basically serves as decoration because he never gets to actually use it himself. It’s the priest that slayed Hildegarn in half. Even Tapion acknowledges the priest as the true hero.

[@gavinlucas9761]

This dragon ball z movie is my personal favorite. Manly because unlike the other movies this one doesn't have that a lot of action and is saved towards the end rather than in the middle. Meaning we get more character moments and see them interact before the big fight. I also like how it isn’t focused on the main villain but rather it focuses on a new character Tapion and how his struggle is related to the monster Hirudegarn. But also I’m a huge Kaiju fan so seeing them fight a Kaiju like Hirudegarn was a real treat. And while I’m kind of disappointed that Goku was the one to defeat Hirudegarn I really really like the Dragon Fist move. So I feel okay about that. It's by no means perfect but it's easily my favorite DBZ film just for that. and I'm really exited for the review of the TV adaptation of the Boo arc.

[@Midori_Hoshi]

Love you, Lance. You're my favorite Dragon Ball KZbinr.

[@GrandArchPriestOfTheAlgorithm]

This video is officially certified by the Recommending Ones & Zeros.

[@MistareFusion]

Certification accepted and appreciated!

[@Thebadlamp]

So excited for this! My Favourite of the original DB movies, although there a massive flaws I can't help but love the heart and ambition put into it.

[@tylerwinters9706]

Videl: jump, you won't do it Hoi: *jumps* Videl: 👁️👄👁️

[@MegamanElric16]

I wouldn't find out about the other DBZ movies until my teens, but THIS was the one I vividly remember watching as a kid.

[@thegamegrumpsletsplayofmaj5727]

I always think of the TFS DBcember Top 24 Movies dialogue whenever I analyze this move: “Yeah the ending is kinda nonsensical and it falls back on Goku being the one to single-handedly defeat the villain” “Dragon fist is cool though” “Oh hell yeah”

[@carlosalarcon9389]

"phantom Magic person", I think the perfect translation is demon.

[@tintor2]

Piccolo basically disappeared from the movies that take place in the Buu arc. He saw coming into the same role as Vegeta's of getting his ass kicked so he left

[@nellewoodruff6337]

3:16 Heyyy, I didn't know this movie was *cell-shaded* badum-tsss

[@MistareFusion]

Heyyy, I see what you did there!

[@mikeythegenesaur719]

The interactions between Trunks and Tapion are the best parts and make the whole movie worth watching.

[@mint0012]

I really liked how when Vegeta gets knocked down protecting those office workers, they help him get back up.

[@kuribo04]

"You guys aren't in a hurry right?" No! And more DBD sounds good to me!

[@DennisTrovato]

I remember watching this in theaters when I was a kid. I loved it.

[@tintor2]

Congrats. I first started following your videos during the Cell arc from the manga. You really nailed it everywhere. I wanna hear your comments of the the Super Hero movie once it comes out if possible ;) Regards

[@dwainfrett5385]

21:38 I think Tapion was just sleepy. It was either he trust Bulma or risk falling asleep anyway. He was trapped in the music box before so he didn’t have to worry before it was destroyed

[@Redeyblagon]

I guess Japan really liked this movie, or at least the Ryuken Bakuhatsu technique. Because it's later used twice in GT by SS4 Goku. It ended up being that technique that Goku uses only in non canon material.

[@tiablue9106]

Goku uses dragon fist 3 times in GT but the first time it’s in base form not ssj4 :0

[@tylercoon1791]

@@tiablue9106 he used it against Super 17 in base and against Nova in SSJ4. Which one am I forgetting?

[@tiablue9106]

@@tylercoon1791 he used it against Omega shenron. (also he used it on eis, not nuova)

[@parkerjackson3089]

Most underrated channel

[@howaboutsomecorn8592]

you're so dripped out its INSANE LOL 👍

[@censoredterminalautism4073]

I called this "the Tapion movie" as a kid. Also, I like the bandana and sunglasses, I think it looks awesome.

[@victormanuelperez92]

Will you cover the “Yo Son Goku and his friends return” OVA?

[@edward18517]

Castor Troy! That's why I knew that I name! Those AMVs!

[@thenotoriousmichaeljackson8938]

Honestly I started watchin after Geekdom101 shouted you out bruh. Lovin dis journey

[@hattoripool1533]

This movie always felt like a epilogue to the Buu saga and I always felt this movie and other movies that could fit into both the anime and manga timelines like Bojack Unbound, this movie and Coolers Revenge we're originally going to be canon I mean a lot of these movies just fit so well

[@OurKindofEntertainment]

@17:32 heck, that'd be my face too if I got a seat next to Videl (especially when she had the pigtails)

[@chancemitchell4147]

I’m going to be honest, homie, because of my attachment to DB and your knowledge on the series, I’m always delighted to hear your praise it. Especially the Z material. I know you don’t hate Dragon Ball or anything but I know it’s a lot more flawed than we sometimes give it credit for. So you criticizing it is completely valid. That’s what we’re here for. But, I’m always a little disheartened to hear folks ripping it apart. Ya know brand loyalty, nostalgia. Anyways! Always happy to see you post.

[@Chris-th5fl]

I remember this movie coming out and i did like how much we got interactions with everyone and how this can fit into the timeline as the 10 year time skip gave toei the chance to make the movies feel canon without question before super came along.

[@olserknam]

...and ironically, it was exactly then when they stopped making them, because the movies were always thought of as an advertisement for the main series and no one pictured them existing on their own merits.

[@hawshimagical]

ohh, ive waited SO LONG for this day……

[@christophertaylor2462]

8:26 Hey, it's the Great King Niko-chan!

[@AstraFulminous]

Hirudegarn breaths fire so maybe the secret pun is Hirudegarn is the dragon here.

[@Dougurasufilm]

Definitely not in a hurry XD I wondered if Vegeta's almost non-existence in this movie is because near the very end they realized, or were told, that Vegeta would still be alive and they sort of haphazardly slotted him in at the last second?

[@slifer875]

I love kaijus and the fact that there is more dialogue and character momments in this movie, this one felt like one of the least formulaic of the DBZ movies, i have praise it for the incredible animation, this one and janembas movie are eaily among the best animated material in dragon ball history. Also since the villain is a kaiju the fighting scenes were completely different from what you usually get from DBZ, but its abvious why TOEI doesnt do it often, as it can only be done with a movie budget.

[@A.C.E.]

17:31 I’m glad you directly called out that guys face 😂

[@asherzerbib3461]

Vegeta can be spotted again in the background of the final scene sitting on some rubble with his arm fold. It’s so incidental that I can buy into his inclusion being a last minute addition.

[@Morgil27]

8:30 I got a good chuckle out of Trunks's King Niko-Chan doll.

[@gespenst1329]

After listening to the image song that Tapion’s theme comes from, I actually wish that he got the tragic ending that was on track for him rather than the title-influenced detour that happened.

[@Celerott]

I remember when I first got into Dragon Ball. I did start with the Anime, but I started watching after TOEI started animating original Dragon Ball, so despite all the filler, I was able to watch the entire Anime story from beginning to end, then I watched all the Movies and Specials, then GT. At that point I didn't even know what a Manga was, or even Dragon Ball was even based on one, so it was surprising to me when I discovered it years later. I remember when Message Forums were the big thing, I was on the old MFG Forums with my Anime only logic and story...I thought I knew it all, and well I'm sure all of you know how well that went from me. I used that as a learning experience, much like Muten Roshi taught Son Goku and Kuririn about strength, there will always be someone out there who knows more than me, and never be lazy complacient or arrogant about what I know, and I've taken that to heart all of these years. Dragon Ball was there for me through some really messed up times, but it helped me through it. I have criticized Toriyama and TOEI on a lot, but in the end I will always be grateful to Toriyama for creating such an amazing story, and to TOEI for animating and in several ways expanding on the story that forever changed my life.

[@MsDarkz123]

Do you have a personal rank for these movies? If not I'm just curious about your three most favorites. (Dunno if mabe wait too for that Goku Jr. special after GT and the retelling of Red Ribbon arc with the GT aesthetic)

[@joshuastgermain3418]

"...the typical Dragon Ball fan, he'll pick what's cool and flashy every time!" YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT MISTAREFUSION!

[@tiablue9106]

“We need...BALLS” -Goku I’ll always remember this movie’s dub for that

[@josesosa3337]

My first Dragon ball movie. When I was a kid I wanted to watch fusion reborn and mssed the broadcast, so I saw this instead on toonami.

[@EndoScorpion]

I doesn't feel like it would take too much to tweak this and fix it. Could tell the exact same story with only changing the details and have it make perfect sense. The one thing that stands out with this (and with the History of Trunk special), is the tone. I absolutely love and prefer the more serious tone and the bigger emphasis on the characters instead of the battles. The fights might be shorter, but they're more impactful; they carry more weight and meaning because of the character development and build up. The movies that are just one big fight from start to finish kinda bore me. It's also part of why I love the Great Saiyaman arc and would love to see more of Gohan's slice of life exploits. Instead of Super I'd rather just have an anime that continues from the Buu saga and follows Gohan and Videl and their superheroing - trying to balance school/work/their relationship, etc. It's criminal that we didn't get any of that in Super.

[@agerard6297]

I remember getting a Japanese VHS of this film from a google threader named Rev Otana when I went to London in 2002 & 2003. I managed to get a lot of manga of the Piccolo Daimou Arc and 23rd Budokai (this was a few years before Viz published them) People who complain that Super was the first to treat Ultimate as a transformation forget it goes back here. I do wish they used Gohan more in the film. His spotting Tapion was a big moment which goes no where. The film does interest me. Being a fan of Kamesennin Gi/Kamisama Shirt & Boots Gohan attracts me, although the film does cement the Jinx that affects Gohan when he wears it. He does well in the Saiyaman suit against Hildegard, but when he wears the Gi,- ass kicked. Which will also happen in the BoG movie and the One Piece/Toriko x over. It’s not until the Universal Survival Arc that things go well for Gohan in the Gi. This movie does make me wish there was more stories from this period: Gohan in high school had such potential. I wish to note certain things I liked: Goten is dressed in Goku’s Kamesennin training clothes, the scene of Gohan blocking Kamesennin from Videl, Goku noting Trunks feeling for a shikabob, and helping him.

[@hambla5034]

Could you perhaps rank all the movies like you did the arcs?

[@Ironclad17]

17:00 You'd think she'd be jaded about heroes growing up with her father.

[@kamatariedgar3603]

8:37 Trunks have a Nikochan action figure? i want that!!

[@ritster21]

I like how Goten wore a tank top in this movie. First time he was showing off his muscles!

[@thegreatpoop1150]

Bro great movie great dissection not much else to say

[@JohnSmith-hr7cc]

By the by, do you plan on covering the anime's 10th anniversary movie? It comes out between episode 4 and 5 of GT, and I don't know how many episodes you plan on covering at a time, but it would be the final movie of Dragon Ball's original era (1984-1997).

[@SupaSayinSkitch]

19:35 Did you mention how many outfits Gohan went thru in the Buu arc?!? 🤣😂🤣 This man has a wardrobe!!!!