The Death of Glider Kits in Trucking

As of 2018, glider kit trucks which are massed produced, or produced by a dealership in quantity, will be coming to an end.
The government in the US and Canada are both clamping down on this practice, as it seems they have found a loop hole in the emissions standards, which they will be putting an end to promptly.
Between 2018-2021, farmers, owner operators can make/have glider kits, but even this practice on a small scale will come to an end, as of 2021.
It's a sad thing now to know that the mechanical WORKING engines will be coming to an end, very, very soon.
It's also a bit scary to know that the new DEF engines are what fleets and owner operators will need to rely on. Hopefully the reliability of the newer trucks will improve SOON!!!
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[@MrAxlzero]

solution stop scrapping old trucks save them and restore them and put them back on the road

[@dl7694]

Keith Starr not profitable for the Chinese. We really let the industry and future drivers down. I drive an old pre emission with a Detroit 60, when they outlaw it I'm done.

[@kennethtomaszewski798]

We need to revolt

[@poopinfruz9771]

California code says you HAVE to buy a new engine every 8 years or so, cost to refurb a bif rig, would definatly be over $60,000

[@SmartTrucking]

Yup! Hey, love your avatar by the way, one of my favourite characters in one of my favourite movies! Dave

[@claytonbrown7100]

That's awesome...need more small fleet operators like you. I love my '94 Pete 362 with 12.7 Detroit...never had any problems with it.

[@jdcustom4655]

I say quit hauling toilet paper to the regulatory people and let them wipe with the poison ivy leaves that they have protected so well.

[@johnowen6507]

Glad we have 3 old trucks with b model cats! As long as parts are available we'll run them forever.

[@pheleant]

Once again, you said it all: "And they're not particularly concerned whether it works in the real world or not." As long as we have people making laws that have never been a truck driver, this will continue to be a comment heard in the in the industry. Some of the best truck bosses I've ever had started out in a truck themselves. It's the guys that have never driven a commercial vehicle, let alone been inside one that create the most headaches.

[@stevenmc764]

Mandated by the government but pushed by California’s emission standards.

[@PennsylvaniaDualSport]

I remember specing a 2010 Mack with an 09 motor just to shy away from the urea mandate of 2010. That MP8 was a great motor!

[@JapaneseRandomHeroez]

As a guy who used to help maintain a fleet of Mack mixers and dumptrucks I'll wholeheartedly agree

[@meade4573]

By a new truck rip out the engine, and sell it. Then, rebuild a cat 3406 and throw in it.

[@kzcowboyfan]

Thanks a lot California

[@johnsiders7819]

I keep old tractors in use over haul the drive lines can be rebuilt many times they cannot ban them because they are all old trucks .

[@johnhub9626]

Very informative, I had no idea what a glider kit was.

[@jamesmcgrath1952]

Yeah, all good things come to an end....But the bad things just hang on forever....

[@MrBigR928]

I'm still gonna hold on to my 1996 W900L 3406e O5ek Cat for a little while longer 😆

[@SmartTrucking]

Wise move. Dave

[@music81333]

What is your fuel milage? The Mercedes Actros(Cab over Semi) which runs here in Germany gets about 8 miles to the Gallon (30 liters per 100 Kilometers)! They are reliable trucks with low emissions. The technology is there. It just needs to be used.

[@bigcountry9210]

I picked up my new glider from Fitzgerald Wednesday and ordered a 2018. I showed them this video and they don't know anything about this. That's strange.

[@curtekstrom6600]

I have a Fleet of 16 T600's from 1985 to 1990. All still running the road today. Yes they have all been Rebuilt/Restored and Maintained on a Schedule. My Driver's get comments all the time on the trucks. Three of my 1985's have surpassed the 3 Million miles mark and still running Strong. I have a Spare engine for each Truck standing by. All powered by 3406B Cats.

[@usdpaulp]

I have a feeling emission delete shops are going to expand greatly.

[@chevyon37s]

usdpaulp tampering with emissions equipment is illegal...

[@ilikeboost4764]

motrhead 69 hold on. I've got a correction. It's illegal either way, there's no consequences unless you get caught.

[@joshtaylor4249]

That red freightliner was really nice!

[@jcjc2593]

I'm from out of U.S but trust me we can see down here the effects of all that... let me explain: we are importing all those new shity trucks(cascadia,prosleeper,t800,volvos) to our countries and we are having too much trouble with those engines we don't have many regulations here about pollution so we take off all the sistem and reprogram the ecu to work properly Besides that it's too expensive and all those ISX,DD13,DD15 and volvos are junk... We are buying more debt because those trucks are not as good as the older ones(Cummins N14,Detroit 60 series and CAT 3406Bs or 3406 e's or even C15 single turbo)... I have a 1999 Kenworth T 2000 with a 3406E in it and I love it... more than 1 million miles and still going strong... I hope u truckers find a solution because we are one in this world and if something affects this industry in your country it will do the same all over the world... Bless 10-4 Drive safe

[@maxanator6]

End the EPA

[@richardfancher7524]

Smog control isn't about smog, it's sbout control !

[@andrewpaulafford1418]

Cutting down emissions is a good thing. My euro 5 scania has never let me down . One of the most reliable makes of trucks here in the UK. And it complies to some of the most strict emission laws over here ..

[@teejay9944]

Well, better get my appt with Fitzgerald now while I can

[@douglasweller9709]

Thank you, great presentation.

[@gamebob2525]

About to pick up a 2014 389 c15 glider. Never going to sell it now. Nice flat top sleeper. I'll post a video of it once I pick it up

[@kens97sto171]

EPA is always a pain... But that said. I drove a 2012 International Pro Star with a MaxForce engine. No DEF at the time. But I never had any DPF issues with it. Ran super singles. Actually a pretty nice truck. And that engine was great.. compared to the Cummins we had in the 09' models . Peak torque at 900rpm. Was awesome..

[@jhon44mat]

Nothing is going to stop me from restoring my dad’s old 98’ FLD120 with its glorious 12.7L Detroit Series 60

[@wildcoyote34]

@Quantum Rey ,, long live Detroit power ,, I hope to god the EPA never bans OLD trucks cause i drive a DINOSAUR built in the 1970s my hauling truck is a 1977 peterbilt 359 custom ,it's a stretched lifted monster that has 3 drive axles + powered steer axle ,built as a military transport truck it never saw service , but was used to haul heavy equipment in the texas oil fields ,,I bought it in south dakota in 2003 ,and drove it home to iowa ,, takes a special talent to drive it cause it has a 24 speed trans with a 3 speed final ,,if i engage the front axle and hit the power dividers and lockers on all 3 rears it's true 14 wheel drive ,,even 12 inches of snow won't stop me ,i routinely plow snow for the county in the winter and use a 14ft plow which is bigger than the ones on the dump trucks it's powered by one of the largest engines ever installed in a class 8 highway truck ,12V92 twin turbo ,air-water aftercooled , 2 stroke detroit ,,setting right at 850 wheel horsepower and 2050 pound feet of torque at 1500 rpm

[@thegreattinc7509]

Quantum Rey can you restore my 99 with a C15 CAT

[@yoban360]

wildcoyote34 I actually want to see this beast

[@racingray42socal96]

I just got out of two different 2019 internationals both pulled 8.2 mpgs. And no issues. Pulled hard ran great with good mileage. Average load was 40,000 lbs.

[@radoliz2]

This is a serious problem! And dealership service depts will not clean out the EGR system! They want to just component replace whatever is wrong. They need a fuel injector in the egr flow to keep it open.

[@billyboi57]

I'll have to agree about them breaking down more often and being more expensive to repair, however I have first hand experience with vastly improved fuel economy. The Freightliner Cascadia with the autoshift transmission can get 10-11 mpg under some situations.

[@kpdvw]

A whole new industry will emerge, that is total rebuilding of older pre 2021 trucks will all Zero Miles new wear components!

[@SmartTrucking]

I think you're right about that! Dave

[@speedskiff2]

No problem with clean air diesels. They are million mile motors with routine service. They need to be made affordable for little guys to stay in business. Get rid of plastic, cheap wiring, and add component commonality between manufacturers.

[@stevestar657]

Dave I agree, it's been speculated for some time now that the pre emission glider niche was coming to an end. It was pretty clear to me anyway that when the Fitzgerald family for example started to purchase Paccar dealerships in the region, and begin to set themselves up for the future - that the glider business was going away in the somewhat near future. And yes - it is a sad fact.

[@sprdaxlw9l]

I live in the past with my C model mechanical. My truck is a 93 and has been in the family for 21 years. I have taken care of it over the years and more or less restored it from the ground up with more emphasis on safety and reliability more than aesthetics. Don't get me wrong, most everyone is shocked when I tell them the year model. No truck will get good fuel mileage doing what I do and reliability is a must because the lives of my passengers (of the bovine persuasion ) stand in the balance-especially during extremes of weather. I bought it when I was 28 and if I can keep it up for another 10-12 years..... When it is done so am I . And not before because of some government mandate. You might be shocked at how long you can get around things if you are safe, use your head, and keep a relatively low profile- at least with a farm truck.

[@YouTubeDeletesComments]

sprdaxlw9l lol concerned about the lives of the Bovines...until you drop em off at the Slaughterhouse...

[@SmartTrucking]

Right on!! Dave

[@buckrowley1506]

a caterpillar will never stop someone will always want or just find one and use it so you will always see one

[@jimmywells33]

Old Iron is where it's at!

[@chrisspeer990]

Well fellow drivers its time for a major push back on this . I AM SO TIRED OF THE WAY THIS GOVERMENT IS RUNNING THE EPA

[@glorifiedng]

So what about the trucks that are allowed into the US via NAFTA from Mexico? I bet they really meet the emissions of the US...

[@RobertBOUSKILL]

The way I see it is that truckers have to figure out a way to get profit as a percentage over the actual cost of running a truck. I had a Mack and I asked about twenty five guys at truck stops how much it cost to run a mile and not one guy could tell me. Until you solve that everything is academic. After seven years I owed the bank the same as when I bought my truck so I quit. I still love trucks and I worked on several glider trucks as an apprentice at White trucks so I know they are not the problem. The problem is accountants who figure someone will take a load no matter what price is offered and are proved right by those who never take the time to figure out a profit. You can't keep on trucking for the love of it.

[@SmartTrucking]

You're right! Dave

[@kt.hehner5997]

Great video! Thank you for info.

[@SmartTrucking]

Thank you! Dave

[@2fast65]

great video thanks and have a safe week.

[@SmartTrucking]

You too! Thanks! Dave

[@racingray42socal96]

Oops forgot to add the engine. It was the Cummins x15 backed by a ten speed auto trans and the second one had the twelve speed auto Trans. Both ran identical fuel mileage.

[@kevinwaynethompson67]

I have a 2018 Peterbilt 389 with the new X15. Depending on the load I get anywhere between 6mpgs to 10mpgs. Also depends on the trailer I pull.

[@Abednego1]

Video editing A+ you're a bit of a rambler, I love ya man! This editing cut a lot of that out. Good job to you and the editor!

[@SmartTrucking]

She cuts out the cuss words too!

[@jeffreydidier5821]

I’ve got a 1999 379 Pete with 2WS 3406E. Great truck. I will drive it till I retire.

[@sandasturner9529]

Good call

[@rwhutcheson]

We got 45 new 2018 Cascadias and they go out under thier own power and and come back in with an old Peterbilt wrecker dragging them.... They meet the GHG 2018 standards and are almost zero emmision but they aren't reliable at all.

[@300blk8]

Good example of every time government gets involved it ends up bad cuz they have no idea what's going on

[@salishaho3194]

As long as new trucks are badly made,the old trucks will never die.

[@SmartTrucking]

Excellent point!

[@smmhb878]

We need de-reg! It's been getting out of hand for way too long!

[@TheRoadhammer379]

Smm hb , deregulation in 1981 was the cause of the industry going to shit, we need a total house cleaning of the government.

[@MichaelRCarlson]

To be fair, it was shit before that also in many ways. We need to make it so drivers bring home more money than a walmart employee without having to work twice the hours each week.

[@chriscook2036]

All we need to do is stop driving all at the same time for one or two weeks. THAT SIMPLE. Eliminate most all the regs.

[@maxanator6]

Smm hb exactly!!!

[@samiam5557]

Put collapseable masts and sails on your rigs! ;)

[@waiting4aliens]

With automobiles 200,000 miles is the new 100,000, and it is no longer unusual to see cars out there with 300,000 miles. When working on a vehicle with a turbocharger and four overhead cams I do at times long for my Studebaker flathead six. Cars that weigh twice as much as cars from the 70's get better fuel mileage. When, not if the engineers get it right it will result in cleaner burning, longer lasting, more economical trucks. Most of the posters here are too young to remember smog alerts that would last a week when persons with respiratory problems couldn't go outside. For most of the summer on the East Coast in DC you couldn't see the sun through the haze. If you wish to see what unregulated smog looks like check out some of the videos on china, with everyone wearing face masks. Do you want that for your kids and grandparents? Taking trucks back for warranty work is not what manufacturers or dealers want. It doesn't make them money. As the poster of this video states our best hope is that the engineers get it right sooner.

[@kevinmccune682]

One trucking company near where I live jerked all the emission equipment and turned the screws Had 350 2 valve engines that would run with a stock 500, when it was said and done the smog Guys hit them and they had to replace and enable the pollution control devices, almost put them out of business, the sky is not the limit anymore we all breathe the same air. I have a feeling some of these pickup truck owners are going to feel the pinch before too long( the days of coaling Priuses may soon be over .)

[@gord2358]

Thanksfor the great video! Gord, Vancouver

[@SmartTrucking]

Thank you Gord! Dave

[@drew7280]

2021 checking in, way worse than emission regulations I assure you.

[@L25rn]

As a mechanic who fought through the '80s auto emissions there may be a light at the end of the tunnel. From '76 on, the emissions regulation changes were an annual occurrence for the manufacturers to deal with. By the mid '80s with full computer controlled engines thing began to improve. In the early '90s DEDEC, CELECT and the CAT 3406 E were showing promise. Unfortunately the EPA has gone nuts again with the previous administration and things are going down hill. The heavy truck industry is now fighting with the almost annual change of regulations. Once the changes slow down or are announced ahead of time the engine manufacturers will have a chance.-

[@SmartTrucking]

That's exactly right! Dave

[@marco5150918]

very true, as a mechanic in the late 70's up to the late 90's , automotive gasoline fuel systems went thru a amasing transformation,, Carb engines just would not meet emissions if not kept proplerly tuned,, which most owners didn't keep up with. With all the electronic fuel management systems ,, light come on and the owner has to go to the shop, Any engine when properly adjusted will past all emmisions with flying colors !!

[@timothyearp631]

One of the changes that was forced by the addition of a catalytic converter in the 70's- 80's was that the zinc in the motor oil was destroying the catalytic converters, but if you take the zinc out of the oil your flat tappet cam would fail, the solution made use of roller cams much more prevalent. Then there were guys who just modified their catalytic converters with a broomstick, and this is a fairly rare thing to do anymore because the technology has come a long way, you could not go down to the Dodge dealer in 1970 and buy a 700+ hp car AND have them warrantee it and get more than 20 mpg. I have been running the same basic route for over 7 years now, the first truck I had to work with was powered by a 60 series Detroit and when loaded to 50,000 pounds gross got 6.2 mpg. The next truck was the Volvo D13 and it got 7.4 loaded the same and on the same roads - it did have injector issues that caused one DPF failure in 900k miles The current rig has 500k miles on it and the DD15 is getting 8.3 MPG and has been trouble free, although I do notice that in summer we get better fuel mileage (8.8). All 3 trucks had a strait 10 trans, not sure what rear ends the 60 series had; but, the D13 had 3.33's and the DD15 has 3.25's, and all of them governed at 65 mph

[@cipmars]

I've heard that Bosch has pattented a new clean diesel system that is supposed to work properly, but I don't have more info on how it works.

[@nycbit7386]

cipmars In this world? With these people running it?

[@robertjackson4121]

Must be a VW computer 1,000's stored port of grays harbor.

[@johnnelson8956]

Daimler Trucks is spending millions developing new electric and hydrogen technologies. It is amazing to see some of the project ideas being developed in germany. Gliders will always be built. If a customer wants one, freightliner will sell them one. I retired from manufacturing plant in nc. You are right about the epa emissions problems though. Every couple of years the epa rolls out brand new limits on emissions. But many of the gliders that we produced were to replace wrecked trucks. Like I said, if a customer has the money, freightliner will oblige.

[@JasonTheMunicipalMechanic]

The main problem is nox emissions from Diesel engines, due to the high efficiency of Diesel engines they have high nox levels. When oxygen is burned hot it creates nox emissions so def is injected into the exhaust or exhaust gas recirculating is injected into the engine to either convert or dilute it. The def systems seem to be the better option than exhaust gas recirculating because the exhaust gas dilutes the oxygen in the cylinders causing a incomplete burn which causes soot that clogs up the dpf filter so it all around sucks, the international we just got is almost undriveable due to the emissions and the dealer says it’s normal.

[@deeznutzz101]

That's why I'm still rolling a 359' duck you epa

[@thollins6582]

Lord help us all

[@cityguyable]

Do carriers like Prime, Convoy, or Amazon have any restrictions on how old the truck can be to run Power Only?

[@rubicondon04]

After a long career of driving all different sorts of fleet trucks, the 2008 Cascadia with the the DD series engine was the most reliable 18 I’d ever been in.. 740,000 miles when I turned it in, regular service, and it never left me sitting. In fact, I never had so much as a flat tire. MPG? 6+ hauling paint, with heavy back hauls. MT maybe 10-15%... I hate to disagree with ya’ll about this, but I’ll take modern efficiency and reliability any day over what I was driving back in the 70s, 80s and 90s.. I do not miss seeing the black smoke pouring outta the one stacks, thanks for your time.. one happy retired trucker..

[@SmartTrucking]

Good to hear from you Moak, thanks! Dave

[@beanzbeanz]

Well, it's just gonna jack costs up across the board. This of course has to be passed on to the customer. Fair enough. At some point though rail begins to make sense again, no?

[@LUNITICWILL]

if we could have a reliable emissions compliant engine that rarely broke down, people would be happier.

[@louisvilleuav5794]

Contracts are adding "Ten Year Rules" for equipment. Banks and Insurers won't cover Gliders hardly at all.

[@rickbeck5437]

Although I am not in the Trucking Industry.It appears the EPA is not interested in making things better for the people that are. The Glider concept is genius. The industry is very important for the economy. The government does not need to make it more difficult.‼️

[@SmartTrucking]

You're absolutely right Rick!

[@youtubertoo]

Meanwhile every other country in the world runs trucks that look like they run on burning tires by the amount of smoke coming out

[@christopherkinney7357]

The truck manufacturers don't want to build a clean idle truck that works, they want to sell parts and right now the truck shops are making big bucks off of it!!!

[@whotf888]

The only thing the government should do is mandate better fuel. Because with better fuel engines don't have to struggle to get the power down, so they can get better fuel mileage. The only thing is you have to make the common rail fuel systems more advanced (like they're in Europe).

[@seththomas9105]

"Hi, I'm from the Government and I'm here to help you!" can be very scary words indeed. Like a poster said. Govt. is like salt, a little goes a long ways. I'm not against having a Govt. or the EPA etc. It's the fact that common sense seemed to go extinct about 1975 in the United States that has me worried, and don't think you are alone in the Trucking industry. The FRA is shoving PTC down our throat in the Railroad industry. 12 mores years and I can pull the pin; if I live that long... keep it on the road/rails brothers. Cheers!

[@ad356]

i drive for a construction company. we have a fleet of dump trucks, one of them being a newer cat brand dump truck. i cant tell you how many times that thing has been in the shop for DEF problems...... when it is on the road, the driver calls the shop complaining that the truck is doing a burn even though it just did one less then 1/2 an hour ago. this is a fairly new truck still under warranty that i am sure my company is paying allot of money for. sadly it's a piece of crap that's always broke, sadly the 2007 sterling with its Mercedes benz diesel that no one seems to like (across the industry the Mercedes doesn't get much love) runs no problem at all. im sure its been paid off for quite a while now, and just makes its owner money at this point. the more i see of DEF, its garbage

[@5FaLlEn5]

andrew donohue I have a stupid Mercedes with no real power no real torque no good engine brake but that bastard Huffs and puffs down the highway with 90000# every time I start it without issue making money wish I could say the same for my dd13

[@ct17shawn48]

yes cat trucks are terrible, but i don't think they use DEF, that's their problem.

[@kylandennis3641]

Idle time kills the DPF Aftertreatment Systems, if you are going to idle the truck make sure the cruise control on/off switch is in the off position so the ECM can regulate the engine speed during your idle time. The engine will not Regen Passively if the cruise control is in the On position as the ECM deems that as PTO mode and will not vary Engine Speed therefore will build soot deposits in the DPF and as soon as you hit the road it will do a Regen. There's a lot to the DPF Systems and unfortunately it's all faulty so good luck...

[@cjeam9199]

You mean DPF problems not DEF. Two separate system. Diesel exhaust fluid is used in SCR selective catalytic reduction System to reduce NOx emissions. Diesel Particulate Filters capture particulate matter pollution and go through regens which use extra fuel, and yeah DPFs are killed by idling for long periods.

[@bryanmcgee7522]

Glider kit = rebuilt= not good if its not rebuilt by the manufacturer

[@adrianwilson7536]

The problem wasn't that the law created a greater cost. It was the cost only hit those buying new trucks, and it allowed a loophole with gliders. So those with new trucks couldn't raise their prices to cover the new expenses. Plus companies trying to past the new cost of the trucks onto the drivers by paying them the same on a more expensive, less productive platform

[@SmartTrucking]

Exactly! Dave

[@jordbjor1]

All reality is that you take your worn out truck that’s possibly on the edge of killing someone if something fails. The engine you would still be running if you didn’t do a glider will be in a brand new chassis and been rebuilt would be cleaner/safer on the road

[@Pete-from-Tn]

It will be the same as back in the 70's. Our gas burning autos, always had issues. The last 20+ Years not many issues with those. But the first 15 years was murder on 90% of the ones I was around. I feel the newer diesel engines, will be the same. They had went through the growing pains. Let the owners be the ones that were hurt over the issues. Now they will get it worked out. Just in time to see Diesel fall to the side as our major use. But I will not get rid of my 1995 T600 with the series 60 detroit.

[@MichaelRCarlson]

A vintage anteater! I like it! I liked those series 60's also. I ran one in my 93 379 Pete.

[@bill7778]

That is pretty much the end of trucking as we know it. Maybe the new engines with perform flawlessly, but the little guy won't be able to afford one.

[@ad356]

they dont, they are expensive and have expensive problems.

[@poopinfruz9771]

There is no maybe, diesel need unrestricted and clean air intake, and unrestricted exhaust, if you try to play with either, it'll be fucked, might burn clean, but itll burn 4x as much, You will also be putting your grandkids into debt if you buy one new

[@havocreaper2404]

I still run gliders. I have two, both with 6NZ cats. Just bought new trucks took the new junk out replaced with 6nz sold new junk.

[@Alex462047]

Lot of guys in Australia, especially in the outback, use older trucks (old 3408-powered Kenworths and E9 Mack Superliners) for that exact reason, and there is a small but growing group of "privateers" restoring and rebuilding older trucks for work. Emissions has been a disaster, the number of new Kenworths and Volvos I have seen on the side of the highway with bonnet/cab tilted and a look of exasperation on the face of the driver pacing around while he waits for a call-out to arrive.

[@SmartTrucking]

Yeah, the new trucks are getting better, but still not as reliable as the old ones. Dave

[@Alex462047]

@@SmartTrucking Mate, have you seen the wiring looms/brake line bundles going along the chassis rails on the Euro 6 Volvo FHs? It's unreal! Blow a compressed air line and you have to pull the whole loom/bundle apart down a metre length bending your forearms somewhere out of sight at an impossible angle around the central AdBlue tank just to find it. Christ, I hope they can find a simpler way to do emissions because, at the moment, the engineering method (misnomer) seems to be to add another level of complexity to an already complicated beast of a drivetrain, then add some fandangled cut-out to prevent you tipping water into the AdBlue tank or disconnecting the EGR pipe, probably as some kind of patronising punitive measure. Guys I know of get through AdBlue exhaust sensors just about as fast as they get through engine oil changes. I swear, the pollies institute these standards faster than the R&D departments of truck manufacturers can design engines to meet them, and that is how we end up with this half-baked crap that shits itself halfway across the Nullabor. Sorry for the rant, Dave, I appreciate you taking the time to answer. All the best to you out there and keep her shiny side up. 👍 Alex

[@eduardodamasio4988]

Just right I understand what is glider kit!!! One doubt, Could to be or there are glider kits with DEF systems? Or it does not make sense?

[@moneyaat]

Warren Buffett invested heavily years ago in the train industry. He had the intention of destroying trucking. Him and big companies are against independent contractors. It's not hard to see what is going on.

[@bowandarrowindian3704]

Nice video I want to wish you good luck in the future peace blessings and love to you and your family I hope everything works out for you my Trucking friend stay cool peace out

[@SmartTrucking]

Thank you! Stay safe! Dave

[@44hawk28]

Never ceases to amaze me how they believe that dumping twice as much fuel through an engine per mile get you lower emissions. That means you have to do four times at work to achieve that. It's no wonder that there is a lack of truck drivers and the country today. Can't let him drive, can't let him drive reliable vehicles, etc etc etc

[@SmartTrucking]

Don't get me started! Dave

[@textrucker7726]

Mega carriers will continue to help support Big Government. Get ready

[@fk4515]

How many Greenhouse gases are released when one of those new emission engines screws up during re-gen and burns the truck to the ground? With North American Free Trade can Mexican trucks do gliders and run their trucks into the US and Canada?

[@SmartTrucking]

There's a good question! Who's doing the emission testing on the mexican trucks? NOBODY! Dave

[@firstname6208]

when the original NAFTA was signed by bush 43 they had planned on building an 8 lane super highway from the border up to KC,MO. Mexican trucks would be exempt to US trucking laws, licensing laws, insurance laws, weight laws, safety inspections, emissions, etc.. Mexico was to build a gigantic port just south of the border to circumvent union labor, as long as the trucks stayed with in 1/2 mile of the NAFTA highway, good to go. BTW, what the hell is in KC,MO? TRAINS, lots of trains. back then who was buying lots of trains? warren buffet, the same guy lobbying Washington for the NAFTA highway. nothing and I mean nothing happens by aw shucks and by golly. every little minute thing is planned and acted upon behind the curtain.

[@wihamaki]

And why did St. Helens blow up? Was it caused by increased heat by global warming? Scientist have realized they were partly wrong about sea-levels rising. They're actually dropping the ocean floors. The magma is speeding up the cracking of fault lines. Want greenhouse gases, watch what happens with Yosemite blows.

[@RDC_Autosports]

last one we got was 2003 from peterbilt no rears no trans and no engine hell we were using the parts from are 362 pete’s, big cams and air leaf suspension 🤙

[@clarencedavismba5042]

Good video. Informative.

[@SmartTrucking]

Thanks Clarence! Dave

[@MrBigR928]

Hey Dave i thought i just read in one of my Overdrive or Truckers news emails that Trump's person over the EPA just put the halt or sent up a bill to put a halt on phase 2 and Fitzgerald and all other Glider builders are pretty darn happy right now! From how the article read its pretty much a done deal. That'll be a huge victory for the trucking industry 👍👍👍👍

[@SmartTrucking]

It sure as hell would! I hope that's right, hadn't heard that. Dave

[@tesmith47]

You have a good point, there should be cooperation between government and industry to get the desired results. I remember how bad the air was before emission regulations no one wants that again!!!

[@chrisclayton5349]

There is so much that went into the smog issue though. Your talking leaded gasoline. Mainly carbeurated engines and very very poor fuel economy. All of these things have been addressed with modern engines most of which would have happened with normal technology progression anyway. And I still find it very hard to believe that reducing mileage to a 1/3 or a 1/4 of the old numbers just to achieve a clean idle is actually helping anything. Diesel technology is far superior to gasoline in regards to work done per gallon of fuel emissions included. Europe has learned that years ago. their average diesel car nets 40 plus mpg yet the US looks at diesel like the black plague. The problem is the mandates are far beyond what the technology of today or even the next 5-10 years is remotely capable of. And the push for electrification is even more detrimental. You still have to produce power and I'm sorry wind turbines, solar panels, and hydro power are not plentiful enough to power it all. We already have power issues in areas of the US and they want to add millions of electric cars to the mix. They are way over reaching right now. It is very easy to topple an entire economy this way. Its all good in theory but as we are seeing it is very poorly executed.

[@cjeam9199]

Chris Clayton Europe fucked up on diesels. Great for fuel economy and CO2 emissions and the vehicle taxes were set up to support that, Europe had much tighter fuel economy requirements but lower other air pollution requirements compared to the US so it was easier for manufacturers to get big mileage and they were incentivised to make small efficient diesels, so everyone went and bought one. Now it’s realised the particulate and NOx pollution from diesels is worse and more impactful than first thought, and air pollution in many European cities is worse than American ones. Only people that should have bought diesels were people doing large miles a year where the fuel efficiency benefit of diesels is a positive and they’re likely on highways away from cities so the air pollution is less of a problem. Everyone else should’ve stuck to petrol, which would’ve meant more CO2 but less harmful health impacts directly.

[@Roushfan5]

You should look into the Euro cities that are actually banning diesel engines because even with the DEF systems they pollute to much. Fact of the matter is as long as we rely on ICEs we will have pollution problems. As a gear head I hate to say it but we need to switch to electric powered vehicles ASAP and save gasoline for classic cars.

[@jamesmooney8933]

You believe, Government and pseudo-scientist are always right.

[@mikeries8549]

Those jets the big shots ride around in run on jet fuel which is very similar to diesel. Makes a lot of pollution. Shut them down! Shut them down NOW! Waste and pollution is only the poor man's problem?!?!?!?

[@rudedog302]

The next thing the government will do is start checking to make sure all the emissions are still installed on the newer trucks. To kill the deleted emission trucks.

[@jhowe5571]

I used to deliver truck parts for a living. Two things I saw was this... The new EPA mandated engines were blowing turbos, and a few other things. The second thing was, there was a fleet shop I delivered to that routinely bought older trucks and rebuilt them. It was cheaper than new and they got around EPA regs... I don't know if they are still doing it now, though...

[@SmartTrucking]

It is common practice these days to buy the older trucks and rebuild them and stay out of California. Dave

[@popsxbox]

I started driving 10/15/1990. The trucks were rough riding but rarely broke down. Through the years of deregulation and then the great CDL then the HOS and now the EPA one can only arrive at the conclusion that our great government has destroyed the backbone of America. Yes it's the trucker who holds this place together. We deliver everything needed for function and entertainment. It's the age ole curse though, we just can't seem to stick together and make the necessary changes that are desperately needed for our industry. TLM ( Truckers Lives Matter ) without them we all loose! Government will continue until this industry is dead because no one can operate a business plan with junk equipment. Don't you drivers think it's time to wake the people up. Boycott one state or even one major city and trust me, eyes will open. That's freight and fuel. Drive through and keep on trucking. Owner operators you can do this. Company drivers you can to a degree. Try it. Hell, you may surprise yourselves!

[@bobbycorrigan7969]

3406- 425 best engine ever.

[@zackmyers3850]

So come 2021, what does phase 2 say about older trucks with glider kits or deletion kits?

[@chilly6883]

What is the make of the cab over at the beginning of this video?

[@ronfullerton3162]

The company I work for purchases new trucks every year, and we have seen the fuel mileage improving. I am currently driving a 2017 Freightliner that is averaging 7.7 since it hit the road new. The downside is the computer operation of the motor.with only 13,000 miles, fuel mileage and performance went down fast. All five motor operations computers had to be blanked out and reprogrammed. And the computers, with even a false sensor reading, can shutdown the motor with little warning. At that point it is a tow into a shop with computer diagnostics. Once they get the bugs out it will probably be great. But how many years is that going to be. It is not fun or productive being "dead in the water" on the shoulder of a busy highway.

[@poopinfruz9771]

Ron Fullerton what are you talking about? 7.7mpg is good??!!! are you nuts? we have early 90's international trucks. the worst one gets 18mph with 31,000kg on it. full mechanical diesel. no real power. but saves us thousands on fuel

[@redneck400m3]

Ron Fullerton I drive a 2011 Pete 386 with a deleted/tuned ISX 15 and it gets almost 8mpg average and im sure would pull that freightshaker in 1/2.

[@googlesuxbigtime1227]

Ron Fullerton You'll get even greater yearly millage results, when you spend so much time being towed to your destination.

[@mkuehn5450]

auto tech of 30+ years, a lot of my diagnosis involves failure management strategy, either using default values as replacements or warning light illumination when "emissions exceed 1.5X values". limp mode drastically reduces MPG. both sides, EPA and owner / operators demand reduced fuel consumption, EPA, less in = less out emissions, O/O lower operating costs per mile. i have issue with the video stating the fuel efficiency of newer models being less then older engines, this is a lie. there is NO way engineers are not using every fuel saving strategy at their disposal, for multiple reasons. "Current Federal regulations require heavy-duty trucks to achieve a 10- to 20-percent increase in fuel efficiency by 2018." and " regulators to draft new rules mandating additional improvements between 2019 and 2025--matching the Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) rules for passenger cars, which also run through 2025." CAFE is a financial incentive (penalty) on top of the obvious selling points to buyers of posted MPG estimates. what i believe Smart - Trucking is saying is fuel economy drops to below older trucks only when failures occur. more systems = more possible failures. BUT it is the owners responsibility to maintain the truck in "as designed" condition. an older truck in proper form will get better MPG then a poorly running newer model, BUT the newer model will manage a failure BETTER then the older one, with less driveability impact. the other factor may be real world Vs. laboratory conditions, an example being manually shifting when a computer controlled map would provide better MPG. traffic won't allow that. finally, @ Kyle Ranger, took me all of 2 minutes to check facts, 7 to 9 MPG is pretty average! a 2015 Daimler getting 12.2 is "more then twice as fuel efficient" as current production. The company was one of three truck manufacturers awarded grants as part of the SuperTruck program. Another vehicle built by Cummins and Peterbilt achieved 9.9 mpg under similar testing conditions.

[@dennism103]

I'll stick with my 1998 kw t-600 12.7 detroit

[@hoost3056]

I disagree about the EPA not caring about the financial aspect. They work in concert with the money boys. The amount of money made because of defective emission controls is staggering....it feeds the dealerships and suppliers of parts. We know that a pre emission electronic diesel is an awesome and reliable piece, able to go well over a million miles without an overhaul, and that was the problem. They were too good. I have used a product called DPF REMEDY in a Cummins ISX powered Volvo and an International Maxxforce 13 powered Prostar with great success. It cuts the soot, which cuts the clogging and the problems behind it. The Maxxforce was the ultimate test though, and it truly works.

[@SmartTrucking]

Interesting stuff! Never heard of this DPF Remedy, do you know, does it void warranty? Dave

[@gonefishing2012]

A while ago when I was a kid whenever truck drivers were pissed or had a problem they all drove to Washington DC and filled the city area around the Capital full of trucks and the government usually backed down. Why dont we see this anymore.

[@SmartTrucking]

They did that last year during Operation Black and Blue. Dave

[@joshuawalker6312]

I understand with the pollution but don't mandate something good that's keeping American moving

[@TheRoadhammer379]

Joshua Walker , building a Toyota prius is more polluting than these glider trucks running.

[@mrjv750li]

There goes some jobs!

[@desislayer8790]

Jordan See some?? Atleast 15%

[@duffelbagdustin9944]

Never selling my 1994 KW W900L sporting a 5EK POWERHOUSE !!!!

[@lestheindependentunlesslik6882]

I’ll just keep my 02 T2000 with the 6nz running I’ll never see a new truck