Will Cabovers Return to the Trucking Industry?

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6 жыл бұрын

So many truckers ask us if we think the CABOVER truck will ever return to the trucking industry again?
Dave goes over the practical points, benefits and downsides of the CABOVER truck, to assess whether or not it's even feasible for the cabover to operate on a mass basis on our highways and roadways.
Also catch some great pics of cabovers we've seen on our travels and at North American Truck Shows.
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@DidierBan
@DidierBan 6 жыл бұрын
The cab over has never left the industry, it just left the North American industry.
@SmartTrucking
@SmartTrucking 6 жыл бұрын
You're right. Dave
@potawatadingdong
@potawatadingdong 5 жыл бұрын
Cabovers are so awesome. Always inspired me to drive trucks as a kid.
@LetsShave61
@LetsShave61 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not a truck driver but I totally understand the nostalgia you mentioned. Ever since I was a kid I loved seeing them on the road but it's such a rare sight these days. I'm 36 now and probably won't ever become the truck driver but if I ever do, a cabover is what I would want to drive.
@jakelogan7542
@jakelogan7542 6 жыл бұрын
The coolest thing about the cabover was B.J. McKay and his best friend Bear!
@georgeof78
@georgeof78 6 жыл бұрын
I always love when I see an old cab over that has been taken care of.
@frodrickfronkensteen9241
@frodrickfronkensteen9241 6 жыл бұрын
Regarding driver retention... in part, the driver shortage is a bi-product of the chosen strategy many of the larger carriers have adopted for staffing their driver work force. They offer below pitiful mileage pay to a new guy starting out and run him day and night during his training/trainer phase. (essentially a team driving setup designed to extract as much driver value as possible for the least amount of investment). The rookie is excited because he's getting unbelievable miles, getting starry-eyed when he thinks about the money he'll soon be making as his mileage pay increases. However, as his experience increases, and his cents-per-mile increases, the company steadily throttles back on the amount of miles they give him per week. Most end up quitting before they cross the year mark. --- It's a business model based on the belief that the junior drivers are an expendable and self-replenishing commodity. --- Good video.
@18Darkside
@18Darkside 6 жыл бұрын
So true, i was done after a year, just got burned out and low pay. Local now and make a lot more money.
@tattooedmillionair
@tattooedmillionair 6 жыл бұрын
(just to shadow what you are saying) worked at a few shops over the years. Have worked for some that see you as a "tool", just like a drill. Put it in the "machine" drive it as hard as you can without breaking it, and when it is dull, you remove it and put in another drill (you end up wasting drills this way but the company spends 5 cents to make a dollar). I am grateful to work in a shop now (small "mom and pop" family style) that recognizes that the value of longevity and experience out-way pep and ignorance.
@wildandliving1925
@wildandliving1925 6 жыл бұрын
Frodrick Fronkensteen driverless trucks will come for the long haul then they only need drivers for the Short trips.
@SmartTrucking
@SmartTrucking 6 жыл бұрын
Good commentary! Thanks! Dave
@jazeapokergoda219
@jazeapokergoda219 6 жыл бұрын
Frodrick Fronkensteen big companies are the worst, driver abuse is their SOP.
@pegbars
@pegbars 6 жыл бұрын
"Curb sniffer?!" Never heard that in all my years as a driver.
@SmartTrucking
@SmartTrucking 6 жыл бұрын
I wish I could say i coined that phrase but it wouldn't be the truth. I can't remember where I first heard that, but I liked it right away! Dave
@b-trucker7717
@b-trucker7717 6 жыл бұрын
Australia has the kenworth cabover flat floor so I do think they can have a comeback and they look nice too.
@ScoutCrafter
@ScoutCrafter 6 жыл бұрын
Cab-overs were great in the cities because of the increased visibility. In metropolitan areas with tight turns and lots of crossing pedestrians it was nice to be able to see in front of you. On the highway their benefits were not so prevalent. Great video! Thanks!
@stevemikkelson6265
@stevemikkelson6265 4 жыл бұрын
The Cabover Was The Truck I Learned Driving . Miss The Great Ol Days!!!
@caseycallahan8767
@caseycallahan8767 5 жыл бұрын
I've been driving since '76. The best riding and handling truck I ever drove was a '78 Mack Cruisliner. It had a 300+ (315) with a 10 speed transmission. I ran N. C. to N. J. and Philadelphia 3 times a week and could set my drink cup on the dash and it would ride there the whole trip. Loved that truck!
@SmartTrucking
@SmartTrucking 5 жыл бұрын
I have a friend that swears by those and still has his!
@Josh-of-all-Trades
@Josh-of-all-Trades 5 жыл бұрын
You know your stuff, sir. It is always a pleasure to listen to you talk about the industry.
@SmartTrucking
@SmartTrucking 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Josh! Dave
@carlosspicyweiner7734
@carlosspicyweiner7734 6 жыл бұрын
Great video! I have an 85 Freightliner spring ride that I'll love forever. Thanks again...
@CR500R
@CR500R 6 жыл бұрын
I've been driving for the better part of 30 years. Never heard "curb sniffer". The common lingo I've always heard has been to call it a "conventional". Yes, I agree, retention is a HUGE problem these days...
@SmartTrucking
@SmartTrucking 6 жыл бұрын
Curb sniffers are drop nose conventional trucks as compared to flat hood conventionals like the 379 Pete. Dave
@DOffio
@DOffio 6 жыл бұрын
Ahhh, I was wondering about that too!
@pegbars
@pegbars 6 жыл бұрын
I drove for several years and I never heard it, either.
@jdurrant421
@jdurrant421 6 жыл бұрын
I love cab overs. I wish they would come back. I would have one. Just has that classic look.
@SmartTrucking
@SmartTrucking 6 жыл бұрын
Know just what you mean. Dave
@stephendahl1594
@stephendahl1594 4 жыл бұрын
I got to go with my dad when I was 5in his COE from Montana to Washington and Oregon. Loved it, great memories
@jtjohnst1965
@jtjohnst1965 6 жыл бұрын
There are brand-new cab-overs operating here in Sherbrooke Quebec. The advantage I understand is that they haul over-length steel, therefore i see the steel extended over the fifth wheel.
@alexfrankl7861
@alexfrankl7861 6 жыл бұрын
Volvo , Scania , Kenworth and now seeing more MAN cabover trucks sell in big numbers in AUS , interstate B Doubles and local tip trucks , by far the most common tipper would be a cabover on our roads .
@robertbreezee6138
@robertbreezee6138 4 жыл бұрын
I remember the cabovers.I remember riding with my uncle is a little kid in his cab over and I thought it was the coolest thing in the world. And I'm a truck driver today.
@andykeller6124
@andykeller6124 6 жыл бұрын
Reminded me of a saying we had in the 80s. If there's an accident with a cabover, you'll be the first one there.
@chinno1234
@chinno1234 5 жыл бұрын
In Jamaica cabovers dominate They are what we use most in those narrow swinding roads
@DanTheCaptain
@DanTheCaptain 6 жыл бұрын
This is interesting since cabovers can basically be found anywhere in the world such as Europe, Africa, Asia, and some South American countries. Curb sniffers although more prevalent in North America are also really popular in Australia and are used as tractors for road trains. Also from what I've seen there is a pretty good mix between cabovers and curb sniffers in Argentina.
@alexsantiago357
@alexsantiago357 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your time and post
@Ryan-vq8wn
@Ryan-vq8wn 6 жыл бұрын
You're exactly right.. I learned to drive not only a truck but drive all together when I was twelve. It was in a 4070b transtar cab over.. Ahh the good old days
@davidbell1676
@davidbell1676 6 жыл бұрын
Well if any of you have driven a FH16 Volvo 600 Globetrotter cabover like here in Australia at 93000 pounds and that is only with a single trailer you would find that what a beautiful truck to drive..so quite and a ride like a cadillac with double bunks and stand up 8ft ceiling and factory fridge..an amazing cabover to drive just like the VNL 880s in the usa but Volvo wont try to sell FH series there..shame really.
@markknowles8159
@markknowles8159 6 жыл бұрын
I drove a lot of cabovers in my 38 years on the road. Your right, the cabover driver is the first to the scene of an accident but in tight quarters the visibility can't be beat. However the worst thing about cabovers for a DRIVER is the ride. Even with airbag suspension and air ride seats they will beat you up. You put 10-11hrs driving a cabover and at the end of the shift you definitely deserve a cold beer.
@SmartTrucking
@SmartTrucking 6 жыл бұрын
That's true! Funny how sometimes you only remember the good stuff! I do however remember falling backwards out of one when I missed the step one day. That wasn't fun. Dave
@Xantec
@Xantec 6 жыл бұрын
having driven a cab over cube truck in the UK, with all round steel suspension, i found the somewhat ride to be firm but not harsh. you knew what the front axle was doing beneath you and you had good feedback through the suspension. Modern Euro Long-haul trucks have Air between the axle and the frame on the front, as well as between the frame and the cabin, and also below the seat and they look to soak up undulations in the road better than the likes of the Argosy, K200, K108 (yes i know they're Aussie models but they're the only regular cab overs made by US manufacturers now.) kenworth offer the K500 using a DAF cab for oilfield work, so there's no reason they could not make it into an OTR model. If i were to be in the states, Id rather have an Argosy or similar. as for fuel savings, running at 55 vs 60 or even 70 makes a BIG difference. a typical EU truck will peak 9 miles per uk gallon at 44,000kgs.
@Kill-Dozer
@Kill-Dozer 6 жыл бұрын
Not to mention your knees are the front bumper.
@scootin123
@scootin123 6 жыл бұрын
Xantec I drove a Peterbuilt day cab w/a 430 hp and 4.11 rear. @ 1175 to 1250 rims for a empty return trip of 150 miles and got 22 miles to a gallon . Took forever. Speed at 1175 rpm was 44 miles per hour got cussed out for returning late to the terminal
@LeFraudHasChokedInSIXFinals
@LeFraudHasChokedInSIXFinals 6 жыл бұрын
Cabovers ride better than conventionals because most of a truck's harsh ride originates from the drive axles. Cabover driver is farther from the drivers and over the cushy front axle.
@gearjammer4779
@gearjammer4779 5 жыл бұрын
Ive been driving big rigs for 37 years now. Started in a 74 Freightliner 2 axle with a 290 Cummins and a 10 speed. No air ride, No AM radio, No power steering, No AC, No sleeper. No Jake Brake. Drove from L.A. to Bakersfield and Fresno over the Grapevine and up and down Hwy 99 in California pulling flatbead doubles. Bounced all the way there and all the way back. Top speed of 63 mph on the floor. Those Cabovers definately made men out of us back in the old days but I sure dont miss em. I like my 2018 KW T880 with all the bells and whistles. If you younger drivers had to drive those old Cabovers like millions of us guys used to you’d kiss the hood of your truck every morning and say “ THANK YOU LORD !”
@SmartTrucking
@SmartTrucking 5 жыл бұрын
Love it! Thanks! Dave
@robertrusso1154
@robertrusso1154 Жыл бұрын
I grew up in a cabover. My father had his own authority and towed mobile homes. He had a GMC Astro. This brings back fond memory's of riding around the state and listening to Paul Harvey and Rush Limbaugh.
@carmengrace2413
@carmengrace2413 5 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of a 68 econoline I once had. Two layers of paint and one layer of sheet metal between you and the accident.
@mrj-charles6383
@mrj-charles6383 6 жыл бұрын
I learned to drive with a Mercedes C/O and a 1976 GMC Astro. The visibility was fantastic in those things. I used to do coast to coast in a flattop Freightliner single bunk. Pretty tight quarters when you put your gear in the truck. I still see a lot of them up here in the Northeast . Big drawback to those truck was the harsh ride. If you had spring ride that was the worst.
@andrewbeaudry4399
@andrewbeaudry4399 6 жыл бұрын
Can't beat the visibility and handling of a cabover
@lizzard71
@lizzard71 6 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed listening to this guy, thanks.
@bennytimes4869
@bennytimes4869 6 жыл бұрын
good topic I love them don't see them like I used to I started out driving cab over nice video
@Zyworski
@Zyworski 6 жыл бұрын
What I envision is a hybridization that has the cab over engine moved forward a few feet, and the front fascia being slanted to achieve greater aerodynamics. With the need for ever greater fuel economy reducing drag is paramount. By slanting the bottom front of the cab forward it creates space for a utility box, and allows the sleeper to take over space that was once occupied by the original utility box. The visibility afforded by a cab over design allows for better maneuvering in tight places, and the slightly protruding nose would provide at least minimal crumple zone.
@demented_cycles
@demented_cycles Жыл бұрын
I’m 37 and remember seeing cabovers on the roads when I was a kid. I started driving in 2012 and have only driven conventionals but man do I like the look of a 352 Pete!
@danielledykgraaf6483
@danielledykgraaf6483 5 жыл бұрын
Crossed the country in several of the trucks in this video. The first one, the burgundy GMC "crackerbox" near froze to death in that Detroit powered turd one night. White Freightliner was the worst riding POJ i ever rode in. But a K 100 Ken and Worthington (Kenworth) and the Pete cabover dad drove were SWEET ! Thanks for the trip down memory lane.
@SmartTrucking
@SmartTrucking 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Danielle! Dave
@gerritjahn320
@gerritjahn320 6 жыл бұрын
I started in a cabover in 1992. But I was glad to get out of it, I found the ride much less comfortable. All my stuff ended up on the floor... and once on an interstate in Pennsylvania, I hit a pothole that made me hit my head against the roof. A couple of years ago I got back into trucking but in Europe... so all cabovers here... they surely improved them, they are much more comfortable now and even have better aerodynamics - of course nowhere near as good as a curbsniffer.
@plumbingstuffinoregon2471
@plumbingstuffinoregon2471 6 жыл бұрын
Here in Oregon, I've been seeing a few of brand new big green Freightliner cabovers hauling hay. And there are a few farmers out here that still use their old cabovers that they bought new in the 70s and 80s.
@ericlietsch994
@ericlietsch994 6 жыл бұрын
Same in Iowa.
@Alniemi
@Alniemi 6 жыл бұрын
Ive seens those same truck on my last trip down to Madras, Beautiful trucks!
@MichaelRCarlson
@MichaelRCarlson 6 жыл бұрын
Saw an old one down here in CA also. It's the farmers moving hay mostly.
@bryancarrington3518
@bryancarrington3518 6 жыл бұрын
Yup, exclusively. Yes, they are available as gliders in the US as well.
@bryancarrington3518
@bryancarrington3518 6 жыл бұрын
The hay haulers (and the bakeries) have realized they can max out the 68' combined trailer length with doubles, and also use a 12' dromedary deck or box in Oregon. Gives them 80' of load length, almost as much as the 84' they get with triple 28' but without the extra permit/licensing requirements or weather restrictions.
@scpd613
@scpd613 6 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks for the memories.
@CaptainEverythingHumorandMore
@CaptainEverythingHumorandMore 6 жыл бұрын
My Dad brought one home that he had heavy equipment on back that he was using at job sites in the 70's. I was scared as a child to ride in it because I felt it was right over the road. haha. Looking back, it was pretty cool. Thanks for the video.
@SmartTrucking
@SmartTrucking 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Dave
@markfryer9880
@markfryer9880 6 жыл бұрын
Yesterday morning here in Melbourne, Australia, I saw three almost brand new Kenworth Cab overs hauling crushed rock and sand for XL Concrete. They were set up as follows; Tandem steer, tandem drive, tandem dolly for the dog trailer, which had tri axle rear and the forward axle lifts when running light. Cant recall if the cabs had a sleeper bed or not. We tend to have a mix of cab overs and curb sniffers in day haul and long haul here, but the over riding thing is the total length restriction which tend to keep the size of any sleeper to a minimum.
@julesparkinson9235
@julesparkinson9235 6 жыл бұрын
I have never seen any on the road when i went to USA...As a Kiwi/NZ driver of them based out of Perth Western Australia( i call them shit boxes )...they have got alot smoother in their ride...hittting Cows,Camels,Horses and BIG Red kangaroos even with a BULLL Bar on the front did a shit load of damage in comparison a long nose( your curb sniffer/conventional) going outa town without a BULL bar was asking for it(told the boss about it,he no listen,Banged up 2x hahaha)...ooh Perth WA to Brisbane Qld 4400km/2735mi one way...some roads would flick you up off the seat/in the air...they should allow more up front for stability...safe travels people!!!
@OurPhilippineAdventure
@OurPhilippineAdventure 6 жыл бұрын
You are right about Cabover tractors. I started out with a 1984 GMC Astro in 1986, and then drove a 1986 International Cabover as well. Then I switched to a 1978 international Cabover, but loved it the best. I love the cabover tractors, you can see the whole road in front without a hood blocking the view. The Conventionals definitely has a better ride and mileage, but I still prefer a cabover due to the nostalgia I have at starting with one. Thanks for a great video.
@gizmothewytchdoktor1049
@gizmothewytchdoktor1049 6 жыл бұрын
the pic montage at the end.....excellent!
@JoeHamelin
@JoeHamelin 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not a trucker but an older guy. I enjoyed the pictures of the classic cabovers. When I was young I did get a chance to drive a few cabover box trucks (C30?) and the view was wonderful. Reminds me of my old '67 microbus. Yet you are correct, the safety just is not there in a crash. The microbus taught me how to keep a decent following distance!
@rogerhiskey6106
@rogerhiskey6106 6 жыл бұрын
It was always fun in my day to find a fellow driver you knew in a cab over and Jack the cab up while he was asleep .
@benjaminduke48
@benjaminduke48 6 жыл бұрын
I see the o/o leasing on to carriers for load network, insurance discounts, to handle the endless paperwork, maintanice discounts. They have been regulated, fee and priced out of the Industry. It takes time to learn how your numbers tells you the rate you need per day, week, month. Good video.
@trainman071
@trainman071 6 жыл бұрын
i miss cab over trucks i started my career in a cab over and loved them ever since
@vinnyvdalidemonet8527
@vinnyvdalidemonet8527 5 жыл бұрын
Man, the picts with that music almost made me shed a tear for those good old days. Just between us, I actually did.. shhhh. Good Job, Thank you. Lol
@SmartTrucking
@SmartTrucking 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Jimmy! Thanks for watching! I DO miss the good old days!
@georgemckay3082
@georgemckay3082 6 жыл бұрын
I tried to order a new K200, but only available in Australia. Now there is a cool truck!
@TheReedPark
@TheReedPark 5 жыл бұрын
The original Optimus Prime was a cabover in the cartoons. But the horrible Michael Bay movies changed him into a curb-sniffer
@michaelreynolds3798
@michaelreynolds3798 4 жыл бұрын
I drove a cab cabover for year's loved every mile of it loved the classic cabover
@the.porter.productions
@the.porter.productions 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting perspective. Thanks.
@Pete-from-Tn
@Pete-from-Tn 6 жыл бұрын
I put a lot of miles in those old Skillet Faces. Hated them back then, and would hate one more now. But there was a lot of docks back in the day. With a 42ft reefer and White/Freightliner. It was nice to back into those docks with. Later on with a 1979 hood, it would take 5 minutes of cussing. To get into the same dock,that it took 1 minute to get into with the sharp turning Skillet Face. My feet would almost freeze in those old Cabovers. While from the chest up was hot. or go through 3 or 4 sets of Boot soles per year. As getting into the cabovers, I would have to get new soles on my boots. And about ever 3 months, I would drop them off at the Boot repair place. Get back in a few weeks to pick those up. Always had 3 pair in the truck.
@SmartTrucking
@SmartTrucking 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they could be cold old bastards, couldn't they? I drove a cabover Freightliner briefly for Trimac and had to wear snowmobile pants to drive them in the winter. dave
@mcearl8073
@mcearl8073 6 жыл бұрын
Just out of curiosity what did the cab over have to do with wearing out your boot soles?
@rtopp1
@rtopp1 6 жыл бұрын
you had 3 or 4 ladder runs to use climbing up into the cab that were notched for traction causing them to be abrasive....if you pull a tanker and required to get on top using its ladder on a regular basis you will wear out the souls of your boots also,
@scootin123
@scootin123 6 жыл бұрын
r_topp3 that's why I never wore out my shoes, I'd step on the tire @ 10 o'clock position grab ahold the steering wheel and swing my butt up onto the seat
@tarlach1280x960
@tarlach1280x960 5 жыл бұрын
You'd be surprised how far they've come with ease of access to the engine compartment and the safety of the Truck drivers
@kraigcochran9995
@kraigcochran9995 6 жыл бұрын
I got my start with a 84 coe freightliner and I couldn't wait to get in a long hood Pete 359, found a 79 359 for sale for 9k and bought it on the spot. Lost the engine in the first month, pulled out the Cummins from my coe freightliner I had layed over and put it in the truck and went Trucking. Love that corvette dash of the old Pete 359's!
@hushpuppy3
@hushpuppy3 3 жыл бұрын
I was a kid in the 80s and grew up on the original Transformers. That original Optimus Prime still holds a special place in my heart. That red and blue cabover with chrome accents was a cool looking vehicle. I really enjoy driving in my passenger vehicle to relax in my free time, just the freedom of the open road and viewing new scenery. In another life, I think I would like to be a truck driver. Thank you for your videos, they are very informative and entertaining.
@Falco2807
@Falco2807 6 жыл бұрын
I would have thought cabovers would still be attractive to local or in-town haulers for their maneuverability. Don't see many though.
@MartyChristianSoldier
@MartyChristianSoldier 6 жыл бұрын
Cool trucks are great as long as your stomach isn't hurting and your mortgage isn't over due. They use to buy fast trucks for the same reason until drivers figured out no matter how fast you go it won't take away the hunger pains. Yes a young kid wants to look cool, while the rest just want to make a decent living, and there lies the only problem with the trucking industry. The industry and the corrupt government wants professionals but they don't want to pay for them. You will drive anything if the pay is right.
@donquixote...
@donquixote... 6 жыл бұрын
I agree that cool trucks aren't enough to bring drivers back... However, the carriers know they can just go after the young & dumb upcoming generation and be able to continue the cycle...
@Ryan-vq8wn
@Ryan-vq8wn 6 жыл бұрын
Marty Marsh I couldn't have said it better
@MichaelRCarlson
@MichaelRCarlson 6 жыл бұрын
Thing is, talk to the young guys, they don't like the large cars or cabovers. They like the swoopy aero rides, for some reason. They like the gadgets and the dock for the Apple Tunes. They leave the CB at home so they can play with the iPhone. Times have changed.
@SmartTrucking
@SmartTrucking 6 жыл бұрын
Good call Marty! Dave
@Kimmiesman24
@Kimmiesman24 6 жыл бұрын
i must be an exception to the rule because i love old trucks and machinery always wanted a go at a b61 and ive only been driving 4 years ill also take an atlas over a gps any day
@Rickybobby1340
@Rickybobby1340 5 жыл бұрын
We still have K200 Kenworths here in Australia. New model every year. We love them for B Double work
@benmartz3405
@benmartz3405 6 жыл бұрын
I miss the cab overs so much. i trained in one in 2004 when i got my cdl in atlanta. There so much more effeicent than these big monsters on the road today. So much easier to drive in big cities like atlanta. I would love to see them return and i know alot of other guys feel the same.Thanks for all the great videos.
@SmartTrucking
@SmartTrucking 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ben! Dave
@commodore665
@commodore665 6 жыл бұрын
In Europe , cab over trucks are the norm , conventional trucks are seldom seem
@tonycervz89
@tonycervz89 4 жыл бұрын
That's The Truck That Hit The Terminator
@sylvaindrasse4261
@sylvaindrasse4261 6 жыл бұрын
If it's any comfort to you, my workaday truck is a 2005 Freightliner Argosy. I pull flatbeds, stepdecks, tilt'n'loads and some light lowboys, often with an oversize load. I'm based out of the Montreal QC area, and I often pull 60-foot-long office trailers without a pilot car because the lack of hood keeps me within the lenght limit to do so. I love my job, and a good part of it is because of the truck I drive. And besides, you can't beat the visibility!
@talltrucker1031
@talltrucker1031 6 жыл бұрын
I agree, trucking in the cabover days was good, miss driving them.
@deadfox852
@deadfox852 6 жыл бұрын
My dad grew up driving cab overs I grew up riding around in them. Granted they where uncomfortable as heck to drive but I agree it is the nostalgia of seeing one. of those bad boys rolling down the road An I don't miss sleeping on the dog house
@2manyspruces
@2manyspruces 6 жыл бұрын
First truck I drove back in 1982 was a GMC cabover, otherwise know as a Jimmie. No guts, loud, and had an exhaust leak that came up through the floor. I happily graduated to an International Transtar shortly after that that.
@SmartTrucking
@SmartTrucking 6 жыл бұрын
Was a Jimmie the same as the Astro? Dave
@2manyspruces
@2manyspruces 6 жыл бұрын
Smart-Trucking.com From what I remember, an Astro was a model of GMC trucks. I believe the term Jimmie applied to any GMC, but I could be wrong. It's been a long time. Trucks have come a long way since the eighties. My favourite ride was a 379 Pete and a KW WL900. Both sweet trucks.
@adamsjustin8
@adamsjustin8 6 жыл бұрын
See few restored here in Lancaster PA really a tug of nostalgia for me growing up in the 70's smiley and the bandit and cannonball run love seeing them miss seeing them as much as I grew up with.
@jamesbradley6854
@jamesbradley6854 6 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@royj8549
@royj8549 6 жыл бұрын
A lot of the negatives mentioned - bad safety, poor fuel economy, harsh ride, only applies to old school American cabovers. A modern Euro cabover is safer is just about every way except a head-on against a brick wall (when was the last time you saw that happen?). The best ones can hit 9 mpg grossing 90,000 lbs. And the fully air suspended cab AND front axle can give a very decent ride.
@ROTAXD
@ROTAXD 6 жыл бұрын
Roy J problem is...there's no way even a euro model would be getting 9mpg here in the states. All of the bs that the epa demands be put on a modern truck to "regulate pollution" decreases milage and in turn creates more pollution. Prime examples are caralytic converters and ethanol fuels on gassers and DEF on diesels. All three of these either greatly reduce power output and therefore mileage (catalytic converters & ethanol)...or they do nothing but cost the driver money and generate revenue to the federal government (DEF. Adding urea solution known as def does not in fact reduce emissions at all...it merely hides said emissions from the sniffers that dot/epa uses.) Then add in the bs that DOT/fmcsa requires as far as auto trans, trac control, crash survivability garbage and the tractor would wind up weighing 9500 lbs more than in europe and it'd be lucky to see 4mph.
@mattjohns3394
@mattjohns3394 6 жыл бұрын
ROTAXD Mack is owned by Volvo, Peterbilt and Kenworth are part of the Paccar Group that includes DAF(thankfully not owned by the Dutch part), Freightliner is owned by Daimler. Euro brands have their hands well and truly in the U.S. market and would easily be able to satisfy EPA regulations, the only thing that really came from this video is the idea that American truck drivers are operating in a different environment to everyone else. This simply isn't true. Australian trucks run up and down the east coast weighing 68 tonnes (150 000 pounds) and probably half of them are cab overs.
@cigmorfil4101
@cigmorfil4101 6 жыл бұрын
ROTAXD especially as a US gallon is about 4/5 an imperial gallon used this side of the pond.
@user-po6hn9id1t
@user-po6hn9id1t 6 жыл бұрын
Roy J Jeremy Clarkson drove a Renault Magnum against a brick wall.
@VOOODOOO37
@VOOODOOO37 6 жыл бұрын
Never heard of curb sniffer, only large car. oh well, loved my COE back in the day, rough ride but ez maneuvering
@PaulChristenson
@PaulChristenson 5 жыл бұрын
Great pics...:)
@reddmutt1916
@reddmutt1916 6 жыл бұрын
The first tractor trailer I drove was a 1977 International Transtar cab over with 290 Cummings 10 speed road ranger. I liked the visibility I had in it.
@SmartTrucking
@SmartTrucking 6 жыл бұрын
My first was a Transtar with a 318 and a 13 speed. Can't remember the year but would have been in there somewhere. Used oil like a bastard, I remember that. Dave
@david18555
@david18555 6 жыл бұрын
Cabovers never left Europe all European trucks are cabovers scaina Volvo man daf mercies just to name a couple
@itoldyouso2137
@itoldyouso2137 6 жыл бұрын
Nothing cooler than driving a clean Pete 379/389 or a KW W900 with pipes going straight up but that's just me LOL
@chevyon37s
@chevyon37s 6 жыл бұрын
Mr. Pink agreed! I've never liked the "pug ran into a wall" look.
@itoldyouso2137
@itoldyouso2137 6 жыл бұрын
Drew w LOL
@brucethomas3100
@brucethomas3100 6 жыл бұрын
Mr. Pink Yeah! I know what you mean! I know drivers that would drive nem 379's and 389's for nothing! Then pay the truck owner $.10 a mile just to look cool going down the road driving a tractor that the front looks like a brick! Ain't making crap, but he's Cool!
@alfredselle3664
@alfredselle3664 6 жыл бұрын
Y'all guys don't wanna be the first on the scene of accident
@royj8549
@royj8549 6 жыл бұрын
Bruce Thomas No need for sarcasm. For EQUAL pay, I'd take a 379 over a Prostar any day. If you don't agree then you must be a Prostar driver, lol
@MomberyMochi
@MomberyMochi 5 жыл бұрын
Cabovers caught my attention when I was a kid. i just loved the old Piggly Wiggly and Winn Dixie fleet back in the day. That look is like a dream of the past now, but i still love it.
@WildernessRocks
@WildernessRocks 6 жыл бұрын
I loved my international and freightliner 20 years ago!
@bryaneich6802
@bryaneich6802 6 жыл бұрын
I saw a cabover in Charleston SC today it was gorgeous! Beautiful blue truck.
@TheHDPerspective
@TheHDPerspective 6 жыл бұрын
I don't mind working on cab overs the odd time I've had to do it. Once the cab is up everything is accessable. Only thing that's really hard is pulling the rad out.
@SmartTrucking
@SmartTrucking 6 жыл бұрын
I bet! Dave
@1südtiroltechnik
@1südtiroltechnik 4 жыл бұрын
These old Caboverengine Trucks of Amerika look amazing.
@drewl4762
@drewl4762 6 жыл бұрын
I'm 20 and just got into trucking. First truck I drove was a w900 that we use to haul grain on our farm. I just recently purchased a 1994 White/Volvo cabover in great condition of another local farmer for $3000 because no one wanted to drive it. The truck has less than 500,000 original miles on the 11.1L Detroit. Looking forward to putting some work into the truck to give it a whole new look. Love those old cabovers :)
@JLip-ww9ul
@JLip-ww9ul 6 жыл бұрын
Loved the look of the cab over could get it in and out of tight places. Had a rough ride. I learned on a 1976 White Freightliner matchbox cab Coca cola truck. When I got the opportunity to drive the 1984 cabover Freightliner with a sleeper I thought I had moved up in the world.
@SmartTrucking
@SmartTrucking 6 жыл бұрын
You had! Dave
@MMID303
@MMID303 6 жыл бұрын
Love cabovers.
@eddiepayne9431
@eddiepayne9431 6 жыл бұрын
MMID303 amen
@davidhunt6463
@davidhunt6463 6 жыл бұрын
A nice succinct and we'll informed monologue that was both interesting and educational to a non trucker from Britain. We don't have conventional over here but growing up in the 70s we did get Movin' On and B.J. And The Bear on TV. I love cabovers but I also love the classic conventional like the W900. Kenworth was always my favourite, they just looked so cool, especially with an Aerodyne sleeper on the back. Thanks for an informative video with some beautiful pictures.
@kenc4240
@kenc4240 5 жыл бұрын
I Have Always Loved The Cabovers I e Enjoy Seeing Them On The Road Here In Central Alberta From Time To Time , They Always Get My Attention Two Thumbs Up !!!!!!!!
@SmartTrucking
@SmartTrucking 5 жыл бұрын
There was an absolutely beautiful double bunk cab over Pete I used to see back in the early Eighties running out of Calgary. White with a few coloured accent stripes pulling B-train grain trailers. Short, coloured guy at the wheel. It was one of THE nicest rides out there at the time. Wish I could remember the drivers name. Dave
@albertsewell878
@albertsewell878 6 жыл бұрын
All in my yard are cab over , concrete pumping. I am the mechanic and yeah what a pain to work on sometimes.
@aidenh2563
@aidenh2563 6 жыл бұрын
You can still get cabovers in Australia, Kenworth sell the K200 which has the same cab design as the old K108s, K104s and the K100. And Freightliner have the Argosy. You also have the choice of all the European and Japanese Cabovers.
@proscriptus
@proscriptus 6 жыл бұрын
Holden HD 179 Japanese?
@unclestan7139
@unclestan7139 6 жыл бұрын
I've seen the Isuzu EXY and the Mitsubishi Fuso FV
@unclestan7139
@unclestan7139 6 жыл бұрын
Kenworths have to be the most common cabovers in Australia.
@amandamyers5169
@amandamyers5169 6 жыл бұрын
Great video. I've personally always loved Cabovers... I think they are cool looking... An easier to drive... I like em...
@Oddball_KellysHeroes
@Oddball_KellysHeroes 6 жыл бұрын
I drive a cab-over though it is only a GMC/Volvo street flusher... You talk about new drivers and when I upgraded from DZ (class 3) to AZ (class 1) I couldn't get a seat for love nor money. I had to fight with my own employer to finally get an assessment. Every employer wants drivers but nobody wants to train anyone anymore. Good luck at the protest rally in October and thank you all for your service!
@R6-D2
@R6-D2 6 жыл бұрын
3:55 Lol I've been on plenty of roads in the northeast that are narrow, tight and small.
@doc2517
@doc2517 6 жыл бұрын
curb sniffer,lol, 30 + years of driving and never heard that one!
@michaelyoung3175
@michaelyoung3175 6 жыл бұрын
Good talk,thanks!
@marshallallensmith
@marshallallensmith 4 жыл бұрын
I love cabovers and every time I see one I am reminded of my grandpaw. He had a brown International cabover.
@stephenclifton7198
@stephenclifton7198 6 жыл бұрын
I understand here in Europe after 2020 all new Cabover Trucks will have a different design/shape in that they will be slightly longer at the Cab front with a 'Bowed' shape for improved fuel mileage and less drag. Deeper Windscreen for better visibility to see Cars, Cyclists or Pedestrians. And better frontal Crush protection in case of a collision. Even more efficient Euro Diesel Engines with an improved compact Exhaust emission control system/SCR, 'AdBlue' (known as 'DEF' in North America). European Cabover Trucks are a lot easier to get into and exit compared to the older style American counterparts due to having a 'staircase' behind the Doors in Front of the Steer Axle. A lot more compact inside (very wide though) but clever design to utilize available space. Steve, UK. (ex Truck and Coach driver since 1973).
@SmartTrucking
@SmartTrucking 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting Steve! Thanks! Dave
@stealthimaster8583
@stealthimaster8583 4 жыл бұрын
Most of the new drivers coming from where I work are dock guys that want to get away from putting 50-59 hours on an unheated dock in the winter with no dock bumpers to keep the building from being a wind tunnel. Most people outside the freight carrier industry don't know that a full time dock guy does not get overtime till after 60 hours so the company always is understaffed because you can be made to work those long hours as well as its just as cold on the dock as it is outside. When its -20 outside it is as well inside the dock, plus the long building catching all the wind and pushing it through that 2 foot gap on the sides of every backed in trailer and it rockets through. Just remember when you buy something in winter that some poor dock guys toes and fingers felt like they were going to fall off all day long moving freight so you could have it.
@LatitudeSky
@LatitudeSky 6 жыл бұрын
Can overs are still popular in certain industries. For example, movie and TV production is huge in my area and all the companies that supply trucks to films end up providing the same handful of trucks: cabover semis because they put on tandem trailers and have to navigate tight movie set locations, stakebed open trucks because they can make the stakes fit whatever need they have, box trucks with single plate aluminum lift gates because they don't want to deal with folding parts that can break and aluminum because it's lighter and lets them load more weight on the truck. The cabover trucks definitely have a use among those people. And as far as I know, you can still order a new cabover from some NA manufacturers. It's just very rare.
@Jamie-pe7sb
@Jamie-pe7sb 6 жыл бұрын
I drove a 77 international c/o transtar II. Long haul. Not the most comfortable tractor - spring suspension....but I loved it
@The101Point1
@The101Point1 6 жыл бұрын
Don't forget about the Freightliner Argosy it's a cabover
@jmowreader9555
@jmowreader9555 6 жыл бұрын
They haven't sold it in North America for several years.
@lazaroverajr4586
@lazaroverajr4586 5 жыл бұрын
Every time i see an old caby it breaks my neck all the time no matter how old or beat up it is.
@Rythblaqk
@Rythblaqk 6 жыл бұрын
Here in NorCal you can see Cabovers still pulling quiet a lot of tomato trailers and hay trailers. Thanks for the video, really enjoyed listening to it.
@ricklopez9006
@ricklopez9006 6 жыл бұрын
I have good memories of my dad driving a daycab! I wouldnt mind seeing them out there again
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