The Death Spiral of Western Economies with Dan Tubb

[@ben_3256]

Respect to Pete for admitting he was wrong about the lockdowns. It takes a humble dude to do that AND to approach the these subjects with an open mind. It seems like every episode there is a portion of my worldview that gets shattered. Great show & keep it up.

[@carlpoppa1788]

I knew right away the entire thing was nonsense. What amazed me was those that were completely brainwashed by it.

[@jacksmachine1874]

He is a genuine guy. He wants to do what is right. The lockdowns were a horrible idea and many crazy conspiracy theorists warned of how detrimental it would be from day one but no one listens of course. They are after all crazy and have no clue what they're talking about...

[@Luke-cj7gz]

Good to focus on UK for a change. Dan was a great guest

[@DissidentNomad]

Brilliant! Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant!! Dan encompasses everything that is wrong that is wrong with Britain for middle class, tax paying, working, law abiding Brits. Bookmarking, sharing and all the rest. Normal people have to wake up and see these issues. Edit: l was one of those who got the "sensible centrist" reference by the way

[@ezikthemage6504]

Great show, the best episode for quite a while!

[@ErikWeijers]

Definitely keep the show What Bitcoin did. Bitcoin is big enough to carry all the topics you want to discuss. And small enough to keep the show focused.

[@21M..AgeOfTruth]

All roads lead to Bitcoin. Fix the money, fix the world.

[@spacegurra]

Extremly important video!!! 👍

[@michaelmason9112]

One of your best interviews to date, Dan did a brilliant job at presenting a different perspective on the macro environment. I will definitely be following him elsewhere.

[@mariemeneses2117]

This is like listening to two Romans in 355 CE talking about the collapse of the Roman city-state and Roman's standard of living

[@cameronwigg7276]

One of the best KZbin podcast thingies I've listened to in ages! Very good show chaps. Immediately looking for more stuff from Dan Tubb 🙂

[@vpnconsult]

"Lockdowns where an enormous overreach of the governments" - Amen 🙏

[@markpalmer8083]

It's easy now to deny how many people would have died without them. Western populations have substantial immunity to Covid now. Completely different situation.

[@zestylemons988]

I like the idea of front running a revolution! Somehow front run the CBDC solution rollout by making it clear and easy for people to understand what is the difference between CBDCs and BTC and to rather use BTC. Would be very good to have future podcasts which keep track on this comparison of CBDC vs BTC.

[@intuitiveguy6487]

Hello Peter. I don't think you are sacrificing the Bitcoin show. To understand Bitcoin, and why it was created and why we need it, people needs to understands first what money is, what central banks are, what their monetary policies are, and finally why the system is broken and with no escape than the States spiral debts. Keep doing it. Cheers!

[@alfons6350]

Told this same story 14 years ago to all my friends. Nobody wanted to believe it at that time. I'm sure today is the same.

[@nikolayvladimirov570]

Great talk. I really enjoyed it. Just one thing to point out. I get where you Peter are coming from by asking couple of times " what if we stop borrowing and start growing " I don't think it would work by comparing the current numbers as they are. The problem is that the revenue that you are looking at is actually money that has filtered trough from the borrowed debt. If you take the debt away from the last couple of years, your revenue will crater. The problem is that just like the example of Bob with his credit card, he didn't buy a machine to improve his productivity and increase the income on his balance sheet. In fact he bought Gucci. Mul investment was typical towards the collapse of the currency in Bulgaria. Everyone at the highest level knew where things were heading and did everything possible to enrich themselves and friends by spending on stupid projects , given to insiders.

[@Finnn66]

Peter and Danny... I've listened to so many of your podcasts on other platforms and I always find them challenging in a good way. I may not be on board with everything said but it's great to go through that process of self questioning. Knowledge is a non static state . It can keep on growing... Just as the subscriber base to this channel undoubtedly will.

[@tradermunky1998]

Debt borrows from the future to fund today's expenses. We have run out of future.

[@Firstmanphotography]

Energy is still the missing factor in this conversation. The UK was dining out on North Sea gas and oil and it backed everything we did until we became a net importer in 2005. Reckon Tim Watkins from the Consciousness of Sheep would be an amazing guest.

[@NicolaCairncross]

I not only really enjoyed this, but felt much better informed as a result. Great to see two Brits coming at it from a UK centric perspective too. Can't wait till the follow up on what's going to get us out of this mess!

[@virg555]

Great interview, fantastic guest.

[@pamelaalford4685]

One of the most comprehensive shows for the average Joe - everyone should watch and understand the situation as it is, without a normalcy bias.

[@Matt_NL]

Enjoy your show a lot Peter! Maybe just start a second channel “What government did”

[@lewiswilliams8117]

Best episode you've done, in my opinion. I look forward to the sequel.

[@TheFourSatoshis]

Absolutely fascinating lads 🇬🇧

[@NanaC84]

Another conversation thoroughly enjoyed 👌

[@MAVERICK-ti1hm]

Another GREAT interview, was aware of a lot of this already but appreciated how it was put into context during the chat back and forth. Kind of wish I was still ignorant back at the start of 2020 ...... ignorance is bliss sometimes ! :(

[@P__114]

Thanks for all of the great podcasts this year

[@wogi9412]

Excellent show and excellent work!

[@davidbaker8483]

Discovered Dan on AA stream. Big fan now.

[@lordmelbury7174]

100%. Dan is very interesting to listen to, big fan as well.

[@bluedeskfan2754]

Great episode. Very informative and quite scary stuff

[@mc-kz8zn]

Super interesting…and super scary. I think his scenario of how things could play out is very real. Thank you WBD, for helping to get these concepts known. Everyone will need to make their own conclusion of course, but its important that this is discussed.

[@MFINCOOM]

Really enjoyed this episode. Love the UK perspective. Seems as though we are really stuck between and rock and a hard place. Seems like UK feel like we deserve a certain standard of living, but those standard are not sustainable nor based on reality. We need to humble ourselves as a nation before it is too late, or we will get humbled (destroyed) by reality.

[@senorgringopapi2059]

Love the show

[@Rawdiswar]

It's always worthwhile

[@aristotleorplato]

Hi Peter, I'm a Brit and I see you as a liberator and am very very grateful for all you publish from "Follow the money" to "WBD". Just would like to see a few more Willy Woo interviews again pleeeeeeaaaaaaasssssseeeeeeeee

[@RyanVoelkel]

Why lol? He’s a snake oil salesman

[@Robsamuel]

Why lol He is wrong about most things and you just craving hopium

[@Jimmybob21]

Very interesting show!!

[@Eastie_]

Peter, l understand your sentiment regarding the brand "What bitcoin did". I love the show and have listened for years. I thought I'd share that there have been a number times in the past 12 months that I've considered sharing episodes with colleagues but then decided not to, simply because I feel a little bit like I'm leading the discussion with "bitcoin". And (despite being a believer mysef) I know it will immediately turn some people off.

[@didactica9326]

Funny. I see Bitcoin in the title as an interest point for people to open the link vs same old blah blah blah financial info.

[@zizzyballuba4373]

everybody is an economic expert that hold all the right opinions and has just the right solution to all problems

[@TheRealDerekS]

Danny could fix all of this in an instant but it would blow his cover and humans would never learn their lesson

[@kylenelson5552]

As someone in their late-20's, I find it a troubling realization that in a lot of cases, I am better off spending that $30 on something than saving it with some false idea that saving $30 here and there could actually help me....Waiting for inheritance or a huge boost in pay feels like my only way to "move up". I want to say no to going out and doing things but now it feels like it doesn't matter I am just operating on expendable income it feels like

[@paulmatthews9366]

You need Steve keen on this podcast. He has different ideas on goverment spending.

[@Tiredsoverytired]

Hi Pete, I found you through Jim Duffy's podcast which at the time was more crypto orientated. It's a bit softer for newbies but he bangs on about you so much I just had to check out what bitcoin did 😂 hooked.

[@ghostdog6471]

Hi Peter, I salute you about admiting your mistake about the lockdowns. It takes alot to admit a mistake from most People

[@oliverb6967]

dan tubb was good

[@chazpercival9501]

When I first found your channel I wanted not to like it because I had preconceptions about bitcoin but god damn I love your channel. Keep up the good work x

[@JM-jj6ht]

Keep this show, if you want to do another show, why not do it as a second one!

[@Mr.McMello]

"the problem is the government"

[@lastnamefirstname2390]

Always has been.

[@shamus2198]

You should have Michael Hudson and Jeffery Sachs on... Hudson was featured in the "The Spider's Web" documentary. Sachs is an economist who has worked with many countries to solve financial problems. Both men are very savvy, based and spot on.

[@carlpoppa1788]

The world of CBDC and UBI will end in quick failure, if it ever becomes a reality. For the same reasons our current systems are failing, so would these, but at a quicker rate. You'd have a nation of unproductive adults and rivaling black markets.

[@raymondgill9796]

Re Liz Truss the fact that she was cavalier and seemed to feel she could not follow the convention of having her plans checked by the OBR spooked the market. It felt like the baggage handler was flying the plane.

[@pleblira]

The problem of managing fiat money is that it can be managed.

[@erickeane4560]

Thanks Peter (as your mother calls you).

[@shrutigupta5755]

@WhatBitcoinDid Why dont you try a stream on UK’s NHS ? And also, discussion on topic - why does Debt actially matter for nations. Bcz it feels like it doesnt these days

[@jeffw875]

Does spending include paying the Monarch? If so, which line item? If not, then where does that money come from?

[@LJ81824]

What Bitcoin can do ?

[@adriancopland6843]

Hi Peter you thought of getting Gary Stephenson of Garyeconomics podcast on your show ,after what you said on today's show about you desire to open the publics eyes !!! To current/future events

[@randyjones3050]

I think it would be a mistake at this point to move your podcast too far away from it's Bitcoin roots. If you want to expand your reach, the best way is to do so while still finding ways to tie it back to Bitcoin. I suggest trying to find celebrities and public personalities who are Bitcoin friendly and getting them to come on to talk about their journey. If you can land just one really big fish with an interview that goes viral, it could significantly increase the visibility of your podcast. Also, do more normie friendly documentaries that don't scream "BITCOIN" in the title. Just find a way to sneak the topic in on the sly while focusing on other issues that normies can relate too. That kind of format would be right up your street.

[@tombrady8861]

What happened to Pedro's other show which he did once

[@antoniolombardo3296]

Don’t deviate from a Bitcoin focus. The biggest money managers on the planet are going to make bitcoin mainstream and your show is going to blow up.

[@richbirecki]

The cultural layer has a lot to do with bitcoin. You can attach bitcoin to interesting voices and show how they are related. Peace Peter, good convo

[@jdg9999]

"Russia doesn't" >laughs awkwardly then ignores it.

[@Jaytraveler2]

Have 2 channels, split you time, this was a good episode however it's not directly Bitcoin. You produce over a 100 plus episodes a year can you grow with guest speakers or even on that point until it's something like that TEDtalk, resource of information for everybody 🤜🏿🤛🏼

[@Tiredsoverytired]

Was thinking you might have two channels, what Peter did? Maybe they could be specials? Let the guests talk and if they bring it to Bitcoin themselves then engage if not just have a laugh and drink some whiskey!

[@jdg9999]

Democracy is not a long termist model of government.

[@AodaFyr]

Why not to reach out to Rogan yourself? That would be a nice podcast.

[@aussieman8738]

Good guest. Peter less talking. Let the guest who has the knowledge run

[@tylerkessler7045]

Thank you. Was thinking this non stop throughout this interview.

[@kristiandalcanale3903]

Just make the Peter McCormack show. That way you can talk about all you want beyond Bitcoin

[@demian2325]

"I am British and I see you as a screaming liberal" Boom! He said it. Peter enjoys his own labels a little bit too much.

[@osx86x]

NHS is great, until you get sick and actually need it. Quite a profound conversation about the enrolment of CDBCs. At least DirectDebit as it is today will cease to exist. Opt out.

[@Dezzasheep]

This scares me, I have no idea where to put my savings :(

[@TorupHodl]

Shoes drop soon-?

[@markschneider2307]

SBF CAN FIX THIS

[@edreeves121]

The NAV of bitcoin has to be a negative.

[@markschneider2307]

Get Alex Jones with Andrew Tate and or Snowden

[@_jamesbro_]

Rishi's "Britcoin" ... "Twat." 😂

[@raymondgill9796]

Jean-Claude Juncker said "We all know what to do, but we don't know how to get re-elected once we've done it."

[@Acid31337]

You coult tax all real estate - it cannot escape country, and thus, is not tax evadable. Who wouldn't like to see massive L for all London real estate grifters?

[@michaelharvey75]

Wouldn't rent have to go up to pay the tax ? .

[@rjbiii]

It's just so goofy to compare a household to a state. Households aren't currency issuers. The rules are different. And this dude just saying that the gov't is functionally our enemy? Man, that really is some alex jones shit lol.

[@snowflakeca2079]

If you were to cut NHS completely, what are you going to replace it with? The Corporate American way that has THE HIGHEST COSTS… AND ONE OF THE WORST RESULTS??? You are right, the 2 possibilities are: None Fuck-All

[@theSTUNTHAMSTER]

Hang on a minute, we not the goverment pay for the NHS in the form of national insurance.

[@essexdrone6595]

💥

[@gazhilts53]

I'd have Boris back 👍

[@astroNexx]

basically, US, UK, Canada, EU, Japan all have been living on borrowed time for the last 20 years. And even if they were to default on their debts they would still be in problem. Lol

[@pamelaalford4685]

Peter - you cannot FIX this dying world, nor should you even try, as that is a total waste of time and effort. Simply reach those that want to be saved. That is all that you can do, and you can't even do that without God's hand. 🙏

[@Annah382]

Please let your guest talk.

[@youngthinker1]

The big voices net all of the attention, and seem to make folks move, but it is the whispers that move the soul. Let's look at Joe Rogan's podcast. He may touch all sorts of subject, and may obtain huge audience attendance, but that does not mean folks will follow through on his word. He may convince a fraction of his audience, simply because he is so distant from them, and out of touch with most of them. Then who convinces folks to follow along with his ideas and why do they gain traction? It is that small fraction that does it. They go out and talk in any form of discourse, and act out Rogan's wisdom. Folks who watch them, see the results, and their actions, and judge them. If that seems good, then they follow. If that group follows, those who don't really pay attention, except to those who are locally considered wise, then they will follow. Likewise, your platform may only net a few thousand to a few ten thousand, but that also indicates how close you are to your audience. You will convince the majority of your audience, because they can relate to you, over the millions who listen to Rogan passively. You are their whisper.

[@PlanetFrosty]

Russia has more debt than you realize and in worse shape with more “paper gold” derivatives. China’s debt to GDP is in real terms 600%

[@markschneider2307]

SBF and ALEX CELSIUS SHOULD BE FORCED TO CONE ON. We already paid them.

[@gazhilts53]

What Economics Did.

[@cheroberts1273]

judus

[@davidabraham5325]

Hi Peter, thanks for all you doing(Bitcoin is the enabler, educator and part of the solution). Have Alex Epstein on if you can, Jordan Peterson and Natalie Brunell chatted to him great information and truths. It's how the wider populations can be reached and educated. Great job you doing thank you again.

[@jdg9999]

Lol it totally was a conspiracy to put Rishi in power. It's literally the textbook definition of it.

[@michaellilienfeld4137]

#buy bitcoin.

[@thesonic997]

Still Bullishly SB

[@adev007]

This guy terrifies me with his foresight. Appreciate it though.😅

[@georgelevison3722]

Pete - please stop reiterating how people see you and your personal journeys and let the guests speak! We get it brah!

[@phillewisit]

Limiting the solutions to 4 seems to be lacking some creative thinking. For example, if the NHS is the biggest spend, then find it by taxing scientifically recognised unhealthy consumables (e.g. sugary foods). Surely professionals can come up with other similar approaches.

[@brutallyremastered4255]

Enough of the used car dealer flexing thanks. What a cvnt.

[@snowflakeca2079]

On the “defense” line in your UK budget, Let’s not forget that the reason any allied countries to the US have a large share of their defenses paid by us, The U.S…

[@snowflakeca2079]

Claiming the 33M “individuals” are responsible for the economy in GB is just false and a lie. When you look at how many individuals work at corporations and how CORPORATIONS move revenues, taxes and profits on and offshore thru subsidiaries, banks, and other accounting schemes is the economy. If those corporations do not pay anything or their fair share, IT WILL BE IMPOSSIBLE for those “individuals” to make up the economy.

[@nilskp]

The economy consists of human activity, not how much the government can extract in taxes

[@cheroberts1273]

Ask Mr Blair why the NHS is on its knees.

[@jasonbutler1149]

It's not about hoW much you make that makes you wealthy it's actually how much you invest.The best decision I ever made in my life was investing in the crypto market. Trust me guys, it really pays a lot!

[@snowflakeca2079]

Not if Elon intervenes in developing worlds and brings them the cheap deflationary energy/ transportation of the future!!!

[@lastnamefirstname2390]

Imagine thinking billionaires have people's best interests in mind. Oligarchs do not care about you. They are the enemies of freedom and democracy.