The Debate on Colorism | Cocktails with Queens

The queens end the debate on colorism that has been circling the show for the past week.
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[@Icewater789]

I though Lisa was going to say something real she talking about a dam magazine.... just lame 😒

[@N0VAscreation]

Righhhhht smdh

[@shelly8965luv]

@@N0VAscreation lol, did you see how Claudia looked during LisaRaye's senseless rant about her experience of her example of "colorism" because she was light skinned and was not asked to pose for black magazines, ( I'm not sure what magazines she was referencing) and using that as an example of being on the other side of colorism..🤦🏽‍♀️

[@nealmike5490]

Me too i was ready 😂😂😂 she said nothing

[@JSOLITEmusic]

As I stated before, Lisa Raye needs to go and address her colorism issues. She said nothing that made any sense here.

[@biggmonie]

She has no colorism issues

[@teealyse4925]

Her story about her feeling colorism because of brown skin girls be on the cover of magazines sounded less about color and more of her relevance as a celebrity....

[@dandan4132]

She is delusional and deflecting real issues about colorism. She definitely benefit from light skin privilege.

[@renewilson2540]

EXACTLY!

[@renewilson2540]

@@teealyse4925 👀👀

[@kinyanicole]

Vivica is NOT here for Lisa! Her face says it all!

[@renewilson2540]

I said the same thing. We just not communicate with our tongues. Her closed twisted mouth spoke volumes. I also know she was giving her friend an opportunity to help herself, SHE DIDN'T!! Fox will have her say.

[@kinyanicole]

@@renewilson2540 yes it did. Because just like Vivica, I couldn’t believe Lisa Raye had the audacity to say light skin people go through the same thing! I coulda fell OUT!

[@cherylthec]

😂true

[@craigantoniohall5050]

Yeah…she don’t look like she’s having it…

[@jenniferlouden6859]

Vivica's silence is saying a lot 🤣🤣🤣

[@Angel_Mayberry]

That look to the side where she is trying to save her friend lmao

[@oneloveonelove9983]

I like LisaRaye but I couldn't understand what she was trying to say, she was all over the place.

[@EricLamar87]

LisaRaye not Lisa

[@chaim6768]

Per usual

[@nealmike5490]

I tried...smh

[@Jellybean0009]

Lisa Raye sounds like the left Hollywood version of Stacy Dash. Those two both have issues with color and identity.

[@nealmike5490]

😂😂

[@tdomonique504]

Ironically, they can’t stand each other...

[@sweetvictory89]

😂😂 I was watching Gang of Roses last night and there was a scene with just the two of them. I said Smh "Now look at ya"

[@jmcdrawer5031]

How? For defending this man's preference? Guess what? We ALL have preferences

[@nealmike5490]

@@jmcdrawer5031 lol yes for defending a colonizers who ancestors rape black women

[@Powetheory]

Lisa raye isn’t smart, or even well read. We can’t put any weight on her opinion. Unfortunately we deem people with platforms as if they have a high level of intellect. She doesn’t have that, let’s move on

[@tab0108]

Oooooo the truthful read...

[@shelly8965luv]

@Aaron Powe: Facts!

[@cross75man75]

She is a clear example of someone who has floated along on light skin privilage all her life and on closer examination it's clear there is no there, there.

[@JSOLITEmusic]

Lisa Raye needs to understand that light skinned privilege exists whether she subscribes to it or feels good about her skin or not. That’s the part she’s not understanding.

[@sdmac1339]

she understands

[@jmcdrawer5031]

What y'all refuse to understand is everyone are allowed to have their preferences. That white man saying he don't want a dark skin woman is hurting y'all how?

[@lastdays3148]

@@jmcdrawer5031 ,I am a Dark Skinned women and I've written a comment on their other Video. Saying that he just has a preference. He shouldn't have been fired from his employment. The 21st Century has a lot of emotional Humans. It's getting exhausting. @ 8:52 However I did agree with Syleena. I've said the same thing for Years. That the Caucasian people have done this Color Skinned Tone separation towards our Black people. Of thinking that the Lighter Skinned people are Superior over us the Darker Skinned people. And I'll add that this issue would continue on, until the end of time.

[@gingerandspice1209]

She doesn’t need to understand nothing, she understands colorism! Blk men are the most colorist of all! So bye!

[@jmcdrawer5031]

@Blair Waldorf newsflash, a lot of people have been picked on as kids for things they can't control. It's an unfortunate part of life, but something you shouldn't remain to be a victim of

[@charleswalker8090]

Vivica is over it!!!!!!!! I love her face lmao

[@rqute2]

🤣🤣🤣

[@ellecee8745]

I love Syleena. She always have an intelligent perspective and She’s NOT with the BS.

[@ms.keedajohnson]

That's part

[@maczilla4648]

@ Elle Cee...... and she's gorgeous, she could say whatever she wants.....j.s.

[@playboyprincess7832]

PERIOD!

[@MrPaulPiper]

I agree and that's what I love about her too.

[@7jacobm]

Agreed. I was nodding my head the whole time she spoke

[@teer6201]

Lisa rate story at the end was so pointless

[@Jellybean0009]

Beverly Johnson was the first black model on Vogue. I am old enough to remember that they preferred the light skinned models. It was only until Iman and Grace Jones who were able to create their own path in addition to modeling that we started seeing dark skinned black models. Beverly Johnson became popular in the 70s. Whenever we have these kind of discussions I feel so old. Like people really don’t remember?? I was born during black and white TVs so maybe I’m ancient already 😝

[@renewilson2540]

As you see, NO! We just get more ignorant of it. It's a problem, like racism until Jesus comes!

[@KeshaL8410]

I am glad Claudia is the moderator of this show. She does the job well. Sometimes Lisa Raye sounds so ignorant. She really needs to have more conversations with a diverse group of women and look past her personal experience. Also, this argument of light-skinned women being overlooked historically is just inaccurate.

[@BF-bb5us]

Well Claudia is one to talk

[@lindathompson5818]

Ha! From the one who has made more colorist comments than the 3 of them..wow!

[@shennarice5749]

@@lindathompson5818 Exactly

[@evetats235]

Yes, she is not very articulate, is she…? Lots of words and minimal substance…

[@jazziejackie7206]

Hi Kesha calling her ignornt not good, but you know some people really don't know how to express themselves. We as women has to get our point to not call other women names. Maybe say Lisa Raye is not informed on the conversation. Let's inform her about this in a respectful way.

[@AlexanderNevermind888]

Was anyone else uncomfortable with LisaRay's last few words? Not to insult her, but some of that came across as a bit uninformed and "light-skinned entitled". They really needed to have some darker-skinned Black women provide a counter-point to this.

[@nealmike5490]

Im blown away by ignorance and i loved her in players club

[@MrPunchthru2dub]

Yikes... the unintentional COLORISM hopped out...

[@prettyblkgyrl74]

LisaRaye please stop. Reading these comments has me overwhelmed with second hand embarrassment. Sis has ZERO self awareness.... ZERO!!! 🙅🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️👎🏾🤷🏾‍♀️

[@playboyprincess7832]

*SHE SAID A BUNCH OF....NOTHING!!! So much so Syleena looked hella bored wit her hand on her chin like "GIRL BYE"😒*

[@rembertseaward351]

Lisa Raye clueless

[@talented1602]

Always has been. She tries to appear so deep but really makes herself look stupid.

[@MochaSmokaLatte]

Lisaraye is soo lost and out of touch. She just refuses to get it! She’s still trying to spin the narrative that she’s been overlooked because she’s light skin, when in actuality it’s because she lacks talent. 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@malika.k]

that’s her experience. We would never understand each other if we don’t listen to each other. every black girl whether dark skin light skin , mix has experience the same thing as dark skin women maybe not to an extreme but still we all through the same thing even more with other races they view all of the same way that the common ground we have with each other y’all refuse to see that still trying to make us a separate thing from darker skin women we all in the same boat

[@janeabailey3361]

@@malika.k Giving all lives matter vibes. We aren't all in the same boat when people of our own race are placed on a pedestal because they are a shade lighter. Also she sucks at acting.

[@TheFearlessBabe]

Why are you shocked. I see so many light skinned women online acting the same way. They get so mad, it’s weird. I think it’s the audacity to try to take away the attention their use to getting. Viva looks so uncomfortable

[@talented1602]

THAT PART.......

[@tc9691]

This is probably a short clip, but notice. Vivica’s quietness. It definitely speaks more than whatever Lisa Raye was mumbling about. I can’t wait to see what she has to say if they have this discussion because I feel she can actually speak more eloquently on this topic.

[@dianemarie4399]

Trust me she got worse

[@victoriousspirit8955]

But I’m also starting to see that this is a part of Vivica’s problem! Instead of being quiet she should speak up more but she is playing it safe. It’s sad. Typical Hollywood mentality and behavior. 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@dianemarie4399]

@@victoriousspirit8955 Vivica was totally silent, she only spoke to change the subject. I guess she was trying to not let her bestie look bad, but little does she know...her silent tactic made her bestie look worse.

[@N0VAscreation]

DaughterofYeshua! I with you! I was so disappointed that Vivica did not speak more!!!

[@shelly8965luv]

@@victoriousspirit8955 I got that very impression too about Viveca keeping silent

[@SLees-tv7gh]

Willie Lynch is still controlling to many of us.🥲smh

[@sweetvictory89]

It's Vivica's poise and grace for me. She's saying so much without saying anything

[@jonathananderson5313]

Love her

[@QurlyChic]

She’s not commenting because she knows Lisa Raye is wrong

[@jazziejackie7206]

Maybe she needs to be informed.

[@Icewater789]

Why is sylenna standing up for Lisa. Let that woman hold her own ! Lisa is just talking about a dam invite and magazine as her light skin struggle.

[@leira9552]

Lisa is full of crap. They barely place brown skinned women on magazine covers and when they do, they airbrush their complexion to make it appear lighter.

[@teealyse4925]

Like gtfo

[@Boelle.]

Syleena always stands up for her light skin friends even when they're wrong, she did the same with Keke wyatt's schizo self

[@moonstar247]

Is it me or is Lisaraye not the brightest on the panel?

[@callmeValRe]

Nice clean up effort ladies. Please cut LisaRaye off next week. Go to commercial or something. She makes things worse for herself the more she speaks! Love the show though.

[@dreamski412]

I don’t watch because of her 🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️

[@1saxophone]

Baby Lisa needs to READ!!!!! Somebody needs to send her a syllabus on the material!

[@momentswithmicki]

Seriously!! It’s ridiculous, researching topics should be apart of her job description. She never has the backstory so her opinion is usually misinformed

[@speaktruthpeace1612]

Wooo Chile

[@LADYLONGNAILZ]

Lisa Thoroughly Embarrassed Herself With This one smfh 😒.

[@SoulfulMentality]

She didn’t do her required reading.

[@LADYLONGNAILZ]

@@SoulfulMentality She NEVER Does... Everything is on a Fly With Her, With No Tangible Backing.

[@falishas7426]

Thank you Claudia for trying to steer the conversation in the right and emphasizing the point.

[@LADYLONGNAILZ]

Claudia KNEW It was Was going Down A RIDICULOUS Rabbit Hole 😒...

[@LADYLONGNAILZ]

@@BF-bb5us I AGREE!!!!

[@victoriousspirit8955]

LisaRaye guess what.... we your audience memebers are highly intelligent! We have been paying attention every week! This is not the first time you’ve made colorist comments! We are saying this based on your prior comments as a whole! You clearly have colorist issues. It definitely needs to be discussed and you should have some audience Members to chime in. Education is the first tool to be used to assist you in your next steps. Smh 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@IntuitiveReadingByPriscilla]

Talk that talk

[@MrPaulPiper]

I agree with you 100 percent.

[@kenyalove3770]

Please say it again! More and more I'm realizing what got her this far... and what certainly did not!

[@dianemarie4399]

Exactly!! I have watched this show every week and LisaRaye always shows who she is, which is a colorist!!. She has said some really ignorant things on here and it's not the first time she has mentioned skin tone and insinuating light skin is better than dark skin. I wish someone would put a video together of all her ignorant and colorist comments and shut her tf up!!. About we don't watch the show every week!!! Yes we do mam and you always talk shit, so there!!, insulting our intelligence!!. That pissed me off.

[@patricemayers2689]

And wat was Lisa raye point? She babbling...

[@Jewel02119]

Look at Vivica...she don’t want to let Lisa have it....so like yo MaMa said “don’t have nothing nice to say, than don’t say sh**” lol smh 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@truthteller816]

Lisa Raye is not that bright, lord help her 🤦🏾‍♀️ This woman is running her mouth saying a whole lot of nothing!

[@N0VAscreation]

I have much respect for LisaRaye and her experience with colorism! Not disregarding her at all, BUT girl dark girls, the hurt goes deeper than being on the cover of a prominent magazine or being Hollywood’s elite. Much deeper! So much deeper!

[@adjanisamantha4803]

@Blair Waldorf very and Claudia been in these murky waters before too and I can see she still don’t get but she’s trying to..

[@dumpd6227]

So messed up to see a person with privilege try to be a victim or an oppressed person.

[@blqcreativeb9461]

Lisa Raye, from not knowing the topic, to magazine representation features, to Egypt, to like my skin coca brown, to sunbathing.. To me being confused by the senseless babbling....

[@1Sakks0]

LMAO! Like what are we talking about and I hope she doesn't try to clear up the clear up next week. We don't have time.

[@blqcreativeb9461]

@@1Sakks0 lool, clear up, the clear up, I didn't mean... Lol

[@amaris7619]

Lord have mercy.... 🤦🏽‍♀️ Lisa is a plum fool.... I can’t believe she’s said what she just said!!! Her privilege loud and clear! She can’t even see it!

[@renewilson2540]

I think she can just like White people who try so hard to "pay devil advocate" on racism events commented (not needed)! Just working REAL HARD against the truth, lol we see you. No excuses on 2021🙂

[@amaris7619]

@@renewilson2540 Yep!!! So true.... she see it... I can’t believe her... to deny it but yet you’re perpetuating the behavior 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@MA-yh2ko]

Nope. It was the reverse. He used toast as an example to justify his "preference" for lighter Black women. LisaRaye seems to be ignorant and hard headed.

[@voodeux_badeux]

Lisa Raye wears insecurity very well, matches her earrings.

[@renewilson2540]

SMH but true!

[@cherylthec]

True!

[@lamarfinesse8753]

Lisa mad about photo shoots and lack of invites. So those two things mean colorism for light skins? Tf. She’s upset about her career.

[@renewilson2540]

🎯

[@ConnorEsq]

See? This is why getting an education is important or at least being well read. Lisa Raye cannot articulate her thoughts to save her life and she often sounds unintelligent...as well as Vivica. Those two are simply not in a position to offer an educated opinion/perspective. Selena on the other hand makes a great effort to offer an intelligent opinion! And of course Claudia.

[@stephaniejames4940]

It's very noticeable. Lisa Raye seems the least educated to me. Vivica got some sense, she just doesn't know too much history. Syleena seems to be the one who pays the most attention to current discussions and things that affect the community and seems well versed with history. Claudia as well. The other two are just entertainment. I like them all though.

[@roshayerving1182]

🤞🏽Speak the truth!

[@jaeshasway]

Bruh, she’s dumb and never comes to chat prepared. She’s gotten by on her looks and skin color, but refuse to admit it. She shouldn’t be on the panel tbh. She adds zero value.

[@stephaniejames4940]

@@jaeshasway I mean does no research on any topics. And she should know better by now. Syleena is constantly having to clean up her comments. I guess she just decides to wing it and go by a few clips seen on tv and the internet. If that.

[@final1fantasy]

I guess you're the intelligence judge. Get over yourself.

[@Trillary_Banks]

I have a serious question for my light skinned sisters. Have you ever been told “you are pretty for a light skinned girl/woman”?

[@nealmike5490]

I feel that

[@chynawhite2060]

We have been told many things. Degraded for your looks and features just like other black women. Just because people can't single us out and make jokes about how we are dark doesnt mean they dont understand we are black.

[@chynawhite2060]

We get hate from EVERYONE. Black folks hate us and whites do too. We are black in a racist world and light in a white supremist system. You all don't get it, because like claudia said you don't live it. We have to walk a line that makes everyone comfortable. And can't even tell the truth about your experiences. They are interpreted and described by others. Imagine black people trying to compare you to white folks who run a entire system. If me or you get caught selling drugs in front of a racist judge we both just n$@$!'s.

[@janeabailey3361]

@@chynawhite2060 Skipped right over the question. Point proven.

[@muezzathestray750]

Been told I'm pretty for a black girl. Or that they don't usually like black girls but liked me... as an adult. I sit and watch the dark-skinned women. Berate the light skin coworkers daily. Solely off of color. Ie: you know why that happened on the shift. Them light ones allow anything. Without ever caring if it's offensive or hurtful. And I am not light skinned. But it's as offensive as being told your pretty for being dark skinned. Colorist are all colors. My fair skinned light eyed co worker was in tears when our boss said to her how the lighter the eyes and skin the sneakier the person.

[@Salutations26]

Lisa Raye just needs to be quiet.

[@kemi1486]

Thank you Claudia for your sensitivity on this subject. You seems to have a good understanding of what darker skin sisters feel. Internally, I know who I am as a black woman because I grew up in a culture where I was praised for my darker skin tone, slim nose and slim face but in the American culture the darker shade sisters are ridiculed and dismissed more so by their own community. Very sick and disgusting when you think about it. Thank god for the strong foundation that was set for me or my self esteem would’ve been destroyed living in America! Very sad!

[@claudiajordanreal]

Thank you. I really want this issue to get better for all of our sisters!

[@renewilson2540]

Agree!!

[@jmcdrawer5031]

But why do you need validation from a white man though?

[@BF-bb5us]

@@claudiajordanreal how did this understanding come about?

[@AnAdorableWombat]

Yall are so pathetic

[@latefortheparty1440]

Maybe Lisa isn’t the best addition to this group. I don’t know.

[@nealmike5490]

I actually feel sad for her..she way out of touch and she dont even know..smh

[@saintblades]

0:41 Claudia sipped that drink hard, thinking here we go chileee 💫😆 if you date someone according to skin tone, that is colorism .. how dark or light someone is doesn't determine thier attractiveness. remember folks, Lisa didn't make those comments .. she clearly just doesn't realize that when White people do it, it ain't cute. as Black and Mixed Black people, we do it all the time .. "caramel queen" or "chocolate king" etc.

[@sbusisiwelinshaba7841]

But some people are attracted to people of a certain shade whether light or dark, it's human nature, it's wrong when it comes from a place of hatred, discrimination or degradation towards a certain shade.

[@crissyc8260]

I'm a light skinned woman and have no idea of what Lisa Raye is talking about. I've experienced "light skinned privilege" my whole life, and having long hair in my younger years has always been a big deal too. I must admit that when it comes to colorism and how browner skinned women have felt, I can't relate and won't even try it. So people like myself, Lisa Raye and Claudia need to sit this one out unless we're showing support for our other melanated sisters. We don't have a story that even halfway compares to theirs.

[@shennarice5749]

Girl Bye🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@scottiebeammeup5753]

Lisa Raye been sitting in the shit so long she can't smell it! Kudos to the rest of the panel ✨🙌🏾

[@kdh255]

Look at LisaRaye trying to act like she didnt understand. She has a brown skin granddaughter so girl stop it. Now she complaining about being too light skinned. Ugh😣

[@victoriousspirit8955]

My point exactly!

[@2tsmi]

Lisa Raye is a colorist.

[@speaktruthpeace1612]

I’m light skinned & I can see that she is. It’s very cringy.

[@tamikax9738]

Vivica is so quiet in this clip her expressions and her silence says a lot. Empty barrel makes the most noise take heed LR empty empty empty barrel. This was like watching a conversation with a white person about white privilege, LR either just doesn’t get it or refuses to get it.

[@mechellebolden1088]

She is so privilege that she get to press promote her episode of Iyanla Fix my life that coming on tomorrow Saturday 10th. No other guest regular people or celebrities. Went on podcast or TV shows to promote. So will it be real or did she get paid for it.

[@N0VAscreation]

LisaRaye! There is no perspective on what that man said, that you should have defended, but it is what is it! We need a whole teaching moment on exactly what colorism is! Where is manifestly! And how it especially affects dark skin women! So we can dispel allll the untruths and hold people accountable!!! Smh! Late!!!! But so happy we are Finally having this conversation.

[@kellyedavis7785]

Them last 2 mins 🙄🙄🙄 girl no mam I NEVERRRR saw girls that looked like me in magazines, videos etc ESPECIALLY in the 90’s and early 00’s the time frame that Lisa was “hot” so many times I remember as a young girl not even wanting to take pictures unless there was a flash, or never wearing all black etc...no mam you not gonna get on this innanet and make me try to believe you were looked over for being too light, you can’t relate because you ARE the preference and damn sho don’t have compassion. But thank you Claudia!

[@friezasama8860]

she is right the dark skin people always treated me bad cause I was light skin even tho I never had a superiority issue. they were projecting there hurt onto me

[@kellyedavis7785]

@@friezasama8860 and that all could be true and valid HOWEVER her trying to convince us that in Hollywood she was overlooked because she was too light and black Hollywood at that is redundant 😑

[@chandishuntley5001]

Well, she was speaking about magazines like Essence, Ebony, or Jet... maybe they didn't feel like she was 'black' enough 🤷🏾

[@Jellybean0009]

@@chandishuntley5001 no she was referencing vogue and other white publications which is not true. They preferred the light skinned models.

[@LADYLONGNAILZ]

@@kellyedavis7785 And FALSE!

[@user-nm8kb1xv9d]

Whew Chile! Lisa Raye is a whole colorist and I feel like she talks too much about nothing. Read more and talk less, Diamond. Im a 46 year old lightskin black woman and I JUST CANNOT! Her ignorance is astounding.

[@Sandalwood11]

I used to love Lisaraye (I still do but not as much). She is so clueless and it hurts to hear her point of view because it doesn’t come from a place of intellect or knowledge. She just talks and ends up not making any concrete point. She doesn’t allow others to speak either. I really wish she would read books, articles or journals. Know how to make a concrete point or argument. Pls make it make sense Lisaraye. You are showing yourself and it’s not a good look. I wish you so much better. Ps. It’s not too late to get an education too (international relations, politics, or something in diplomacy. It’s not only when it hurts you that it’s wrong - that man compared your fellow black woman to burnt toast!

[@lisasprovidence4572]

An attempt at damage control? Revolving door ... they need AMANDA SEALES to navigate/ moderate/ educate

[@renewilson2540]

😳 Amanda would destroy Lisa Raye and not on purpose but she would not be for the foolishness!

[@rudiannwildgoose-laing4629]

The examples Lisa Raye was giving have nothing to do with being light skinned it has more to do what who is deemed popular or relevant at the time, which is forever changing in the entertainment industry as a whole.

[@nakuro2686]

I have an issue with how dismissive Lisa seems to come off. I am a dark woman and my children are lighter than lisa and Claudia..I hear what they go through as well. We all need to look at our own selves, work on it and move forward. You cannot expect someone to love you if you don't love you. We have to cut the shit and acknowledge how we all have played a part,played into or ignored this issue.

[@christalcotton30]

Lisa raye I love you but I'm rolling my eyes right now on some your comments. For the longest in black mag there were same black woman that would make the list of the prettiest. Halle berry, Vanessa williams, Jada Pinkett, Janet Jackson etc.

[@beverlyann111]

Jada Pinkett has never made a pretty list, lol ! No one would know who she was if she was not married to Will Smith

[@3x3mm]

LR its coming out all w r o n g. Cut her mike.

[@shelly8965luv]

@@3x3mm 🤣🤣🤣

[@christalcotton30]

@@beverlyann111 incorrect yes she has made the list

[@theprettyjungle]

I find it ironic that the black woman who can damn near pass for whyte.. has the most disillusionment about colorism.. go figure. Lisa Raye needs to educate herself before she starts to speak on issues , that she herself has benefited from; just because someone is pretty doesnt mean they're correct..smh We need to stop letting certain people get away with saying out of pocket nonsense. Clearly Vivica is annoyed...but i digress

[@tab0108]

I feel like I'm about to be annoyed based on previous commentary esp from Lisa.... let's see.

[@tab0108]

Ugh I was right! Lisa don't need to do commentary. That woman is uncultured and uneducated.

[@tab0108]

@@vss5383 at all with her all colors matter rhetoric

[@Thecaramelcreole]

What I heard was..What LISA Raye? What you thought you heard was still wrong and your explanation was so confusing. What did any of that “mombojomo” have to do with a white man comparing black womens skin color to toast/toaster settings. 🤷🏽‍♀️Was she blowing it off or that clueless?

[@rembertseaward351]

Lisa Raye is a colorist

[@professorkeuchannel1161]

That episode they're setting up is going to be the biggest L ever.

[@professorkeuchannel1161]

Just done a video on colorism

[@renewilson2540]

If Lisa Raye DON'T GET A CLUE she WILL be disinvited to the cookout! Ask Terry or Stacey it can be done. We give you only so many chances! This is NOT a two side story...

[@aritz260]

Vivica A.Fox isn't even commenting, I guess that's a smart move...

[@Ms.BCarter]

I just feel Vivica is so intelligent and respectful.

[@renewilson2540]

Check out her FACE when others are talking, not for the BS!

[@anniem.670]

Right, Viv is awesome and real as hell, she not gone play stupid like L.Raye

[@TakeMe1335]

Vivica is a beautiful woman but she has way too much injection in her lips! She almost look like the joker!

[@jmcdrawer5031]

How? She was triggered like everyone else for no reason

[@lastdays3148]

@@TakeMe1335 ," O " my gosh Hahahahahaha 🤣🤦🏾‍♀️

[@latefortheparty1440]

Fox Soul, are you reading your comments? Listen to what your viewers are saying!

[@Multifacted_Brotha]

Take a shot every time Lisa Raye says - Know what I mean 😂😂😂

[@joycecheeks1063]

And you'll be drunk for days!!!

[@carolynswan1171]

@@joycecheeks1063 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@yolandawarren71]

Some people will admit that there's racism but then turned around and deny colorism. Make it make sense!

[@Kells91483]

No one in this panel has the range to speak about this topic, periodt... if they don't have a scholar that has done the reading, such as a Kimberly Nicole Foster... don't do it, continue with the topical discussions ya'll have... Lisa Raye is sounds very "All Lives Matter" 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@lisasprovidence4572]

Exactly ... they need someone with the educational depth, historical knowledge & range on such a sensitive & important topic. This is way beyond their "water cooler" convo.

[@revivingvenus1725]

Exactly !

[@kenyalove3770]

Syleena came closest...

[@revivingvenus1725]

@@kenyalove3770 Not even close. They are not qualified to have this convo. None of them !

[@Niatate]

Lisaraye...smh...

[@marianaya5824]

I'm going to say this. And I don't have to be dark skinned to understand what colorism is. These days every crazy perspective (like so much other grimy ish) is normalized and it's the same with colorism. And we should NOT pretend like it's not what it is! No! I hardly ever relate to Lisa Raye anyways. She does seem to validate people who prop up light skin in our community as a white woman would. Boooooo....

[@missekevu33]

Lisa is being defensive because she’s embarrassed. Sis can’t say she was wrong and it is what it is. She’s a product of her environment and she absolutely gives me the vibe of a light skinned woman who wouldn’t date another light skinned person and makes it a point to date people darker than her so that she doesn’t want light kids. Not going to cancel her, she just needs to be educated and probably get some counseling. Syleena, keep being a good friend and trying to educate your girl. Keep making Lisa question her thoughts so she can not come off ignorant.

[@ak24553]

I really don’t think she’s embarrassed. She’s very delusional and just really don’t have a clue. She’s didn’t apologize for her statement from last week because she just simply don’t get it’s so sad. This lady start talking about a magazine cover lead me to believe she don’t have a clue and have lived based off light skin privilege.

[@prettyblkgyrl74]

LisaRaye’s magazine story had NOTHING to do with skin color and EVERYTHING to do with relevance (or lack thereof). 🙄🤦🏾‍♀️ Angela Bassett got the cover because she is, was & will forever be popping in these streets. 🥰🥰🥰 (don’t mind me y’all, I just threw Angela’s name out there as a random example of Black excellence. & I also just wanted an excuse to refer to Angela as POPPING in these 2021 streets 🥰😂🙌🏾)

[@harriett7268]

Having a preference for what COLOR / SHADE of Black you like is COLORISM and it is really problematic in the African American Community..... it is NOT OK finding Beauty in ALL shades of black is about Self Love and acceptance

[@renewilson2540]

It is problematic on ALL communities, we just discuss it more! Colonizers started this trash, we can finish it! But first we must educated our own, SMH (looking at you LisaRaye)!

[@cherylthec]

PLEASE DON'T HAVE THIS "DISCUSSION " it will only make things worse.... smh... with Lisaray sounding like a white woman and NOT acknowledging her PRIVILEGE and choosing to describe it as a preference it's just going to make the divide worse.... trust me on that... we will NOT be gassed by privileged women.... yes... we know everyone has challenges.... IT IS NOT THE SAME....even the AA community treats darkskinned women like dirt with no value... this hurts us economically in job searches and business opportunities which is the MOST IMPORTANT issue we face.... also, start with a line up of spouses of pro athletes, next move on to those making statement that darkskinned women are ugly and their mixed babies are beautiful... all babies are beautiful, but why the attack on dsw?... that's just a start.... you're not ready... too disingenuous...

[@brandonbrown1916]

Lisa Raye can't possibly think she'd have had a career if she was Syleena's complexion...

[@sherriew36]

Leave it to "short bus" LisaRaye to miss the point, and add a dash of ignant. They need to give her a "Reading Rainbow" playlist. Thanks, Syleena for always bringing intelligent commentary.

[@valeo3508]

🤣🤣🤣😂

[@jadesmith7983]

Omg 😭

[@carolynswan1171]

😂😂😂

[@slycat2355]

Lisa Raye is RARELY prepared for the show, repeatedly says ignorant things, and has NO BUSINESS being on this show!

[@reignlee7649]

Vivica’s face says it all

[@playboyprincess7832]

*"White ppl did dis to us"....STR8 UP FACTS!!!!!!!!👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽...IT'S LIKE HOW DON'T YOU GET IT😒🤷🏽‍♀️😒* *#SYLEENA**, THA REALEST👸🏽*

[@kathyrodriguez820]

Claudia there have already been documentaries on colorism called Light Girls and Dark Girls.

[@claudiajordanreal]

I know. I was in one. But we still have a ways to go...

[@Ripplerimmel]

I love this show and I love Lisa Raye but please bring someone else who’s a scholar, activist, or just anyone educated on the topic of colorism. Syleena has been the only one to really contribute anything of substance to conversation. Granted I do appreciate Claudia for wanting to handle this topic with care but there’s so much more and valid things that can be said in regards to colorism.

[@Salutations26]

What is Lisa talking about?

[@kathyrodriguez820]

Trying to downplay her light skinned privilege while we are thinking yeah right.

[@l.4231]

Get RID of lisa raye or I'm done with this show. no longer feels good to my soul. might as well bring Sharon Osbourne. she knew EXACTLY what she was saying

[@jonesbunny]

Exactly

[@tab0108]

Yup

[@final1fantasy]

😂🤣😂 OMG. Y'all were giving her another chance. But....here she goes again, "all the way Serena's color." SMH. Claudia's like......I gotta take a drink. Viv and Syleena are tryin' to hold on. Whew. Also, I am not saying cancel Lisa Raye. I would only ask Lisa Raye to put herself in the other woman's shoes, for a second. Just a second.

[@tikaroxanne7286]

Claudia explained it well...why was Vivica so quiet? Yeah lightkskin women may be told they are not black enough sometimes but overall they can get into spaces we can’t 💁🏾‍♀️

[@zan752000]

I wish there was more magazines and platforms that celebrated every skin tone and all it's specialness.

[@MrPaulPiper]

I feel the same way too.

[@lastdays3148]

@@MrPaulPiper ,I was a little girl during the 1970s. We had a Magazine that celebrated all Colored Black Skinned Tones. Called Right On Magazine and I still have a copy of one their Magazines.

[@rembertseaward351]

Lisa Raye is famous for 1 movie and 1TV show why is she relevant? And she talks too much

[@roshayerving1182]

Speak the truth! She has no real movies or shows( that present her skills on screen).🤞🏽

[@kathyrodriguez820]

That's why it makes no sense that she is trying to dismiss her light skin privilege. If she was brown skinned or dark skinned she would just be known as the chick from The Players Club. People probably wouldn't even remember her name.

[@jaeshasway]

I love Vivca Fox and how her expressions say it all. ♥️ 🙌🏽

[@cynthiahoggatt6911]

I get it syleena your right

[@Jewel02119]

Yeah that didn’t help Lisa Raye...It seems there is still an issue there...she just be stumbling all of her words smh

[@resat1830]

I love Vivica’s face, during this episode.

[@jwalt8019]

Wait, what now LisaRaye?? If word salad was a person. 🤦🏾‍♂️ And Vivica was lookin like, "TF is this heffa talking about???"

[@refinedqueen2260]

Lisaraye is the dingy one like Chrissy from Threes Company, Cole from Martin, Rose from the Golden Girls, Homer from the Simpsons. Get my point?

[@TaxProJai]

Claudia is a good moderator

[@DC45193]

You wasnt invited because of your attitude Ms. Lisa Raye.

[@em.415]

Lisa Raye I love you girl. I don’t think you’re a colorist. I think you’re just speaking from your experience. But light skinned privilege is just as real as white privilege. Especially for women. You fit the Eurocentric beauty standard more than a darker skinned black woman. Celebrating light skin is not the same as celebrating dark skin because light skin is already the preference. It’s already uplifted by default.

[@yvonnewilliams8800]

It’s okay to have your own preferences. Light, dark. Slim, thick. Younger, older. But in actuality, Serena Williams wouldn’t give him the time of day!

[@renewilson2540]

Corrupt and to be clear, THIS was not about preference, its colorism a symptom of racism which is why he got FIRED! Legit Preference don't do that.

[@Dr.PhD-10]

Claudia, I appreciate your perspective; Syleena, very smart; Vivica, neutral; and LisaRaye zipped it🤐 & Shhhh🤫

[@carolynswan1171]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@deniedbymanbutchosenbygod3029]

Good job Claudia for the moderation. Liked all the ladies, but Lisa had me wanting to find the mute button. 😂

[@carolynswan1171]

Most definitely