The Deprogram Episode 120 - Nerding about War (Ft. Radio War Nerd)

[@shanefoster2132]

Oof, that intro reminded me of my grandparents. My grandma especially dedicated herself to church service in a small river valley town. When she passed, she gave the home (two stories) to the church across the street... They bulldozed it for additional parking.

[@hylianmango8272]

That sucks but at the same time having more space for more church goers is more useful than a house with sentimental but not much inherent value.

[@theoleadfoot2864]

​@@hylianmango8272 wtf dude

[@guishenStreetB]

@@hylianmango8272pls be bait god pls be bait

[@EnverHalilHoxha1917]

​@@hylianmango8272the least soulles american:

[@hylianmango8272]

@@EnverHalilHoxha1917 🇺🇸

[@Turdfergusen382]

Working class people unite! All races; rich and poor! If you work for a living and don’t own the business, then YOU are the majority. Stop letting them scapegoat and divide us. Stand together now!

[@SmutnyReptyl]

Rich? To be honest small artisans are closer to working class than for example wealthy tech bro programmers.

[@Flamewarden_Honoushugoshin]

@@SmutnyReptylBut million sounds like billion (despite being 0.1% of it)! And well compensated labor can afford nice house and car! Clearly they must be ruling class and not just exploited labor aristocracy, right? And yes, there are even many petite bourgeois who's class interests more and more align with the proletariat as capital contracts and consolidates.They should be helped to recognize that and turn traitor against the class they are barely in.

[@marcsimard2723]

Aint gonna happen Sit down, itll pass

[@Turdfergusen382]

@@Flamewarden_Honoushugoshin thanks. I couldn’t have said it better

[@ThunderBucket-ws5jp]

@@marcsimard2723 The problem is, last time it past the Soviet Union killed 9 out of 10 of the nazi soldiers The train tracks we're on lead off a cliff, while all the owners scramble to make money off the decline We need the train tracks to lead to a hopeful direction

[@zainmudassir2964]

Hope you do episode on Myanmar civil war. The Rebel alliance is pushing back the Burmese Military which had been carrying out atrocities for Bamar Buddhist Ethno-nationalism like Rohingya genocide. Burmese communist party (Marxist - Leninism) is fighting on side of rebels

[@Lolsout]

They're doing based work right now

[@skywhauherferne79]

I have faith in them but there are also liberals and opportunists. I believe they might be on the same page for now but their contradictions and cracks are already showing with their interests coming into conflict with the interests of the people. People call them out for monopolizing the revolution. I hope more people see the light.

[@ringo8410]

I'll admit that back my my lib days, I considered Afghanistan the "just" war and complained bitterly about Iraq. Now I regard them both not as "mistakes" but imperial wars that caused many of the problems (ISIS, the Taliban, etc) that the American war machine is dealing with today. Should also be noted that Genocide Joe is actively starving the Afghans as punishment for the empire having to retreat.

[@LuizAlexPhoenix]

The "Syrian Free Army" is also putting ex ISIL leaders in charge while under US supervision. Which isn't surprising to those paying attention but dismounts the whole narrative about being against ISIL.

[@Yatagurusu]

HOW IS HAKIM ALWAYS MISSING FROM THE ONES HE HAS THE MOST TO ADD TO, although maybe its for the best to not reopen wounds.

[@a.s.8104]

This guest seemed to be a liberal and the hosts accommodated to his liberalism a bit too much

[@DinoCism]

I do like that the show is willing to talk to non-socialists but at the same time they need to have more actual socialists on. Someone like Rania from breakthrough news or Claudia de la Cruz from PSL. A theorist like Radhika Desai would be great. It’s ok to branch out but there are plenty of socialists on KZbin they are missing out on.

[@LuizAlexPhoenix]

Hakim's hours are pretty intense, he has even been looking for an editor for his own channel. So, while I do miss him and have a favouritism for him, we need to let good old Hakim sleep sometimes.

[@KoIossov]

@@a.s.8104While our position on Liberalism is clear, I don't think that we have to make all of our interactions with them into an argument about the correct political path. There are other conversations that can be had that may still be fruitful, even if we have many disagreements. We may have to continue living with misguided liberals for many years to come, and while our stance on their ideology must be firm, I think we can still get along with individuals who are making an effort to be good people

[@Zaftrabuda]

Reopen what wounds?

[@grulochris97]

Yugo is right, indeed a brilliant episode. Definitely one of the best this year.

[@DinoCism]

I don’t know how a student of guerrilla warfare can say “Hamas is not even a factor in Gaza.” Israel has lost more troops than in any other operation. They haven’t really been able to clear any areas. Obviously it’s an asymmetrical war but also Israel is notoriously casualty averse. I straight up hate when Westerners belittle and portray Palestinians as victims with no agency. That is not how they see themselves and not how they actually are. The ingenuity and perseverance of the resistance in Gaza will go down in history as one of the great resistance movements of the 21st century just as the Vietnamese resistance was in the 21st. That comment makes me think he must not be closely following things on the ground.

[@marcsimard2723]

By this metric, the Ukrainians are kicking ass🙄

[@LuizAlexPhoenix]

​@@marcsimard2723 I mean, the difference is that Ukraine has an army and genuinely had more soldiers than Russia in the conflict for the vast majority of the war, relying on NATO beyond itself. Hamas is a militia formed inside a ghetto, they are a resistance faction formed from Fatah (in great part by the zionists fracturing Fatah from the inside and supressing Fatah while supporting Hamas). It's less that Hamas is doing well, but that they and other resistance groups are dealing damage while facing an extermination campaign. This is a completely difference context.

[@ericktellez7632]

With both the United States and Mexico having elections this year a great guest could be Kurt Hackbarth a journalist based in Mexico City with focus on North American history he is a contributor in Jacobin

[@MechanicalRabbits]

I miss Hakim 😢

[@cpman-zz8xz]

He is busy sticking his fingers in elderly people’s bums. It’s an important job, be patient friend.

[@nicoruppert4207]

It's so sad he left the pod😢

[@Elliott_101]

@@nicoruppert4207 seriously? for ever?

[@a.s.8104]

Why did he leave? Where he told about it?

[@a.s.8104]

In hakim's twitter it still reads that he is a co-host of the deprogram

[@peacockjive6847]

Never expected this crossover. Love radio war nerd

[@Schultz20]

It was ISIS-K who bombed Kandahar airport during the American retreat, NOT THE TALIBAN!

[@Nyota7766]

Oh this should be an interesting one.

[@angryyordle4640]

Wow, i love the nuance in this episode. I really feel like especially with Hakim this is missing sometimes, but i gotta say this episode, as well as the recent one with 1Dime was really great!

[@zainmudassir2964]

Thanks Nerd

[@ristekostadinov2820]

1:20:38 Macedonia mentioned, let's go 🤣

[@ristekostadinov2820]

1:17:51 i mean it's not really weird that Jokic dominates NBA, if you look at Yugoslavia's basketball history we used to be one of the best countries in world. Look at our basketball history, we are pretty decorated with medals be it Olympic, World Cup or EuroBasket.

[@brunocardozo3243]

Great pod as aways. Btw, when you gonna drop the one with João Carvalho? Your brazilian audience are begging 😭😭😭😭

[@pedroalexandredillemburg3751]

Nem todos

[@ericktellez7632]

There was one episode with a Brazilian one a few months ago, i dont remember if its the same guest probably

[@Digo-eu]

@@ericktellez7632Ian Neves came to the podcast once

[@LuizAlexPhoenix]

Gaio Fato also deserves an episode, not to mention Jones Manoel. But then the podcast would end up very Brazilian heavy. 😂

[@Digo-eu]

@@LuizAlexPhoenix it’s bound to happen. Brazilification is the path of all things on the internet.

[@ZS-rw4qq]

52:02 I agree and a lot of people were sold on "they're coming for our wives and kids"

[@deptusmechanikus7362]

Tucker put in interview? Put what in interview? He put what?!

[@jmagowan12]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/nICmiHWeqqmXetEsi=2wsTxLLwDrqEQraI

[@auroraofclanborealis]

No, no, *poutine*. Tucker did an interview about the Canadian delicacy.

[@berdyderg900]

What is going on!?

[@kirklandday]

That fallout joke in the description is something i think of every single time i hear that. ofc war changes and ofc some things remain the same. wow.

[@Damascene-Syria]

Balls

[@paraceratherium255]

Wow, this is the first comment…

[@paraceratherium255]

🥇

[@Nyota7766]

Ah yes ballsss indeed

[@Даниил-н8н]

*Officer Balls

[@Katyusha780]

XD

[@joefrancis759]

really interesting, thanks

[@goutamboppana961]

guys where's hakim?

[@jmagowan12]

Soar Éire!!! 19:00 !

[@pedrohenryque1361]

cade o joão, wheres Jhon?

[@alexmarkadonis7179]

While I think you and I have our differences with Varoufakis, I think it would be interesting to have him on the show sometime.

[@iraviya]

A man of good taste. Aviation Week was the shit.

[@snowericsnow]

nice Molchat Doma poster.

[@sami_is_freeYt]

Yes finally someone talking about the genocide in Bangladesh (East Pakistan back then) and what nixon and kissenger did. Just search 1971 mission searchlight and u will know alot

[@nimzomitch]

Kinda disappointed you guys didnt watch or have much comment on the Putin interview

[@marcsimard2723]

Haha 37:29 The only way to survive id like the old Italian in Catch 22

[@pokemonrampagemake]

I take a lot of issues with the idea that collaborators are simply people who were oppressed by local powers and sought to ally with external ones. They are by all accounts simply opportunistic bastards who are willing to betray their own people and condemn many to inhumane conditions or death for personal gain. The conditions in Algeria during the French occupation were catastrophic, most Algerians were treated like animals, so when France abandoned them it was no surprise that Harkis got imprisoned or killed as they were actively assisting an occupation that killed millions and made the remaining people miserable to say the least. In the end collaborators are much closer to the occupiers than they are to their own people and they always end up learning the same lesson which is that the occupiers do not view them as anything other than useful idiots and will abandon them the second they become troublesome. I find it very hard to have any sympathy towards collaborators, it is actually easier to sympathize with occupiers than collaborators. Long story short don't be a collaborator, it never pans out and no one will save you when it falls apart nor feel sad for what happens to you.

[@commenterthe3rd]

I love the podcast its nice to listen to a left wing podcast while doing chores

[@kaptivatingstudios676]

JT, Yugopnik, Hakim. Can you guys have a podcast with a channel called Corporate Aesthetic?

[@commissarofpublicsafety]

W upload

[@derpcreamcone]

Is there a country this man hasn’t lived in?

[@LawIV]

We have moved beyond the need for religion because we have invented air conditioning

[@Bakow444]

I'm surprised that the guest doesn't know the effectiveness of the resistance in Gaza. Jon Elmer on the Electronic Intifada has a lot of coverage on it

[@joeyrufo]

3:08 yes, Sam Harris is one of these neo-Fordians when it comes to his view of history 🧐

[@dytr-kHRM.tv-221.25bm]

Oooooooooh Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit!!!!!!!!!!! Whaddup!!!!!!

[@Psteinz]

War Nerd'a got a low bounty.

[@patricialongo5870]

Us girls will listen to the boys, here. The all male review.

[@ackmedbinlama7179]

No more First thought? 😢

[@HyDeNsEeK123]

Im sure watching an episode of my favorite commies during a week of work that makes me want to fight all my bosses will lead me to handliny things very diplomatically 💜

[@paraceratherium255]

Nice.

[@mattyt3625]

😅😊😅😊

[@nicoruppert4207]

War id 🪪

[@rajarathnamprasannavinayag3204]

Pls talk to Indian leftie pls

[@leroitiaks]

For someone who is a "war nerd", not understanding the strategic retreat of Russian army during SPO from Kiev to allow diplomatic channels to go through is a bit problematic. Worst, though, is not understanding why Iran is the enemy of izrael and daddy amurika, namely because it is the main supporter of the Axis of Resistance through weaponry, moral leadership and strategy.

[@RadicalSoup]

Honestly, little off putting how much admiration is given to a feudal ideology that has been used as the main justification for colonialism and the worst aspects of modern imperalism on a supposedly Marxist podcast. Why is it a bad that Christianity is diminishing in America?

[@patrickholt2270]

You'd have to have more familiarity with scripture to begin to know why, as well familiarity with the consistent radical and revolutionary tendency in Church history that results from the class analysis, condemnations of class society and commandments for drastic redistribution of wealth found all over scripture.

[@entertainproxi9140]

Christianity is a religion, it is misinterpreted by ideologies (both purposefuly and not) but isn't an ideology itself, the same happens with islam in Saudi arabia (preachers silencing criticism while the heir is doing unislamic things near Mecca) and in izrael where they use judaism as the backbone of a fascist ethnostate, the common aspect of all these governments is their ideology is clearly far right, religion is just the world view of the people that are governed so the fascism disguises itself through scholars the same way it does with liberal Atheists who are slowly turning towards the right with prominent neo atheist and debate bro figures defending far right and pro war ideas. Either way you said it yourself, it was used as a justification, that doesn't mean it was the real motive, don't repeat the mistakes of former socialist movements, religious people are the bulk of the workers.

[@ggez-yc1ui]

where should you laugh? add some behind-the-scenes laughter, clowns.

[@colonel__klink7548]

"Ukraine tempted into war." The cognitive dissonance with this podcast is crazy. Did Ukraine invade Russia? No. Did Ukraine use irregular forces to seize and annex Russian territory? No. So... how is it Ukraine was tempted into war?

[@СашаВолков-ф5н]

It was 1. Run by an extremely anti-russian government that tried to eradicate all of our culture on their land 2. Joining an alliance that had a single purpose: to oppose (and perhaps destroy Russia)

[@barbarapitenthusiast7103]

With the promise of joining nato, zelensky would do anything to join nato. Unfortunately for him, they arent going to let him join no matter what he does. But they sure tell him they will. Its nato which caused russia to invade in the first place, as they treaten russia interests in the are.

[@СашаВолков-ф5н]

Nice to hear that there are people who are aware of that fact.​@@barbarapitenthusiast7103

[@СашаВолков-ф5н]

@@barbarapitenthusiast7103 Glad to hear that there are people who understand that