The Deprogram Episode 4 - The Limits of Capitalism

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"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results." - that Far Cry guy.

[@troywalkertheprogressivean8433]

Privatizing profits, socializing losses. Pure and simple.

[@punksk8a29]

Hakim should make a KZbin episode where he just rates English idioms. Lol foot the bill killed me.

[@troywalkertheprogressivean8433]

I like how the endgame of capitalism leaves the majority poor and or dead but it's so great. 😃👍

[@lukkamr]

But Daddy Jeff's proffiiiitsss 😔 it must be great!!11!!

[@troywalkertheprogressivean8433]

@@lukkamr muh profits! 😆

[@bgiv2010]

Agreed but that assumes they even thought all the way through to an endgame. This feels like more of a hustle than a con.

[@troywalkertheprogressivean8433]

@@bgiv2010 kzbin.info/www/bejne/iXfdfqZoiLNgY9U

[@PoppoYoppo]

This comment reminds me of JTs video on automation. If we reach full automation in our capitalist society, at the end of the day we'll all be jobless and dying and the capitalists will have no customers

[@superbeltman6197]

2:17 "I might as well try some chicken shit" - Yugopnik, 2023

[@charlesvalentine9638]

The CIA uses a laser pointer to distract Yugopnik.

[@rinkelitar1781]

Binging on these currently, so happy that they are here on yt too

[@avigailpekelman8239]

Same

[@_redmenace1917]

Same

[@elijahhowe6280]

Same

[@SatchelChannel]

My 3 hours a day commute are less tedious recently

[@cursedcat6467]

You are binging? I prefer to use google, but only on the Nintendo ds internet browser

[@arwinwest2505]

17:13 On the problem of surplus overproduction 25:27 No irrationality when the rationality is profit and growth in exchange for pollution, suffering and death 35:31 Advertisement for millions of brands for one commodity rant 40:23 Planned obsolence (frequent planned failure and breaking of commodities so people will have to repeatedly fix often or buy more of it with more monry spent) during monopoly stage of capitalism

[@avigailpekelman8239]

Thank you

[@arwinwest2505]

@@avigailpekelman8239 Thank you for your thank you, I actually did it for myself so its surprising someone thought these clips were helpful. You're welcome.

[@jansecj9472]

The dumping of perfectly fine products is probably the most crystal clear example of how capitalism is irrational. Great ep.

[@Tristyn_Waterman]

This podcast is amazing, you all have unique backgrounds and perspectives, and at the same time, your personalities, banter, and dynamic are extremely entertaining and funny

[@untraceablefgc-9mkii251]

I already listened all episodes on Spotify, i shall commet for the algorithm!

[@Ghdfshhs]

Obligatory algorithm reply

[@iamnohere]

ALGORHITHM

[@naberville3305]

Talking about the reserve army of labor just made me kinda realize that I personally have been replaced by a homeless person before at work. A small restaurant I was working at hired a homeless guy, paid him half as much as me, had him move in with another co-worker, and then fired me 2 weeks later after he was all trained up. Dude was so grateful to have a job and be off the streets and worked super hard and so willing to kiss the hand who fed him. It's so exploitative yet there's no way you can really even denounce or combat it because at the end of the day it's an objectively good thing that this poor man was able to get off the streets.

[@CraigKeidel]

Counterpoint: the system punished you with the threat of homelessness (joblessness) because you dared require a higher wage. Replacing workers with cheaper workers is a way to beat the working class into submission.

[@CraigKeidel]

So it was not objectively good, as paid wages to the working class saw a net decrease while the employment pool was net unchanged, a job for a job with less cost to the capitalist. Be mad, just be mad at the business owner not the homeless guy.

[@djungelskog3434]

the rising tide raises all boats, but not everyone has a mega yacht to retreat to when it does lol

[@bgiv2010]

We are heading towards an ad-supported, subscription-based, data-harvested future and we voted for it with our dollars.

[@krishnannarayanan8819]

read this in the voice of adam something

[@Abuda7amHD]

35:26 Arabic translation: "My beloved, enough! What is this!?"

[@ThePhatFilosopher]

Ya I’m really gunna have to listen to all these before they’re struck off the internet forever.

[@dead4head294]

This podcast is literally me, everytime I get drunk and complain about capitalism. Almost word for word the same rants 😂

[@njorrofvanirv4721]

God I love what you guys are doing! And you lads are doing a great job at it, feels like I'm just chilling with some friends listening to good conversation.

[@michelromero7671]

The episode is just 30 mins if we remove all the Hakim's "F#K!NG", hahaha.

[@YodamanOb704]

The Nutella take, killed me! Keep up the great work, fighting the good fight.

[@Naheed_Ahmed14]

Mashallah daddy The Deprogram has uploaded.

[@lopez.jacinto.6726]

What does Mashallah mean?

[@severdislike4222]

@@lopez.jacinto.6726 Mashallah (Arabic: مَا شَاءَ ٱللَّٰهُ, mā shāʾa -llāhu), also written Masha'Allah or Masya Allah (Malaysia and Indonesia), is an Arabic phrase that is used to express a feeling of awe or beauty regarding an event or person that was just mentioned.

[@lotoreo]

@@severdislike4222 "God has willed it" I think it means

[@remicaron3191]

Catnip it’s weed for cats. Weed is what humans. lol

[@samrowe8752]

I heckin love the Deprogram pod

[@krybling]

im so high i been thinking about zizek eating hotdog for 10 min

[@lotoreo]

yo that's some good weed

[@krybling]

also one year later i am thinking about if he would eat the hotdog differently or the same

[@tkdyo]

Im currently getting an MBA and I felt that discussion about advertising in my bones. It was so painful sitting through a whole semester of the professor spinning how advertising works as a good thing.

[@Gnarnak]

That rant about advertising was great, exactly my feelings! And I luckily only spent about 2 years in that industry.

[@emanuelneagu14]

30:06 it's funny that "footed" would be an English-ed derivation of "fucked" in Romanian AND "fucked" would actually fit into the context as replacement.

[@emmasilver2332]

I love advertisements...when I can laugh at how ridiculous they are.

[@CraigKeidel]

My wife and I like to chuckle at how all the new meds coming out sound like Gen Z slang.

[@elijahhowe6280]

Let’s get these videos trending!!

[@bamr1318]

43:00 I absolutely *despise* this I even say things to my mom like "you should switch brands (from Apple), that s**t is made to break" Also their charger things I could go on for another paragraph but I'll leave it at that One of the only times I *really* think about the Good Old Days

[@emanuelneagu14]

there's a lot of good Xiaomi ones or even cheaper Samsungs that are worth the money for 2-3 years that they last. Too bad they can't make ones that actually fkin last. But one day

[@itsukizy]

yugopnik is so funny lmao

[@charlesvalentine9638]

JT puts out a youtube show that's family friendly, The Deprogram with all the content minus all the dark humor about sex, race and body horror. It has muppets and is 10 minutes long.

[@LittleHerdaz]

Love the HBomberguy reference 😂❤

[@wolframstahl1263]

1:08:28 After the whole Nutella-blackface rant my ears were so primed on "Nutella" that I heard "Let's not insult the Nutelligence of our audience" at this point, and it was rather hilarious.

[@etiennecurtaz5755]

This commenti Is for the algorythm.

[@HollyOak]

In 1970s Exxon new what was going to happen over the next 50+ years and buried the report because of profits. Isn't that the perfect example of capitalism?

[@colonel__klink7548]

As you can tell I like listening to the podcast as it always makes me think! Hakim's point about "infinite growth on a finite planet" really got me to think... He's arguing for entropy. The opposite of progress. Not a falling back and collapse, no just a halt to growth (anti progress) and staying at an ideal place forever because the planet is finite. It really fits into this theory I have that the difference between monarchist reactionaries and Marxists is the reactionaries ideal entropic state was in the past, and the Marxists believe apparently the idealized entropic eternal system has yet to come! They want the same thing, just different ideas of where that thing is.

[@johnphillips5993]

The planned obsolescence thing is so important. I would almost argue that the system of consumerism is built on theft. Capitalists will try to sell you shitty products that break in a month or a year, with the sole purpose that you keep buying them. There are of course exceptions (like video game consoles, my Wii from 2007 still works), but deep down the only people who benefit from consumerism are the capitalist class. And I haven’t even mentioned the alienating aspects of the shallow, toxic culture built around consumerism. Like in 7th and 8th grade when I was into cartoons and video games from the 1990s and 2000s (and increasingly interested in classical music), my fellow classmates were talking about x newest brand of shoes, like Nikes and Jordans, and it fucking alienated me.

[@GerinoMorn]

There are two herbs cats like: catnip and valerian. Valerian is slightly hypnotic, relaxing etc. in humans. Prob the latter you got xD

[@botchedmandala5197]

Degrowth isn't individualist at all btw, quite a few marxist degrowthers - of course there are some numpties in there who think its compatible with capitalism (Herman Daly etc) but theyre a minority - most realise degrowth must involve overcoming capitalism, to consume less is to crash it, so it cant be done inside the system. But glad you guys are talking about it. And really enjoying these, dunno why i put them off so long :)

[@cjmoss51]

The guy from Far Cry, his name is Vaas. Hes the villan and you kill him in like the first 1/3 of the game. Once you do the game completely goes off the rails.

[@blondezeke6640]

Don't worry Yugopnik I'll be the token black worker at your work am also a quart indian so I am basically a double minority lol

[@potterinhe11]

How DARE you debase that brown, succulent, sausy substance that is Nutella by wasting it on your ugly mug!?!?

[@fonroo0000]

I died at the blackface joke

[@falkorornothing261]

If you're looking for big trucks come to Hawaii. You can drive your Prius underneath them. Plus you can grow your own bananas, which is the best banana. They also go lovely with nutella. 😁

[@ДмитрийЮрьевичПлотников]

Food for thought: if I comment on this video to support it because the algorithm supposedly favors videos with more comments, would it mean indirectly subscribing to the idea of a "free markeet", of which the algorithm is supposed to be a microcosm, fostering "fair" competition for the limited ampount of views and all, whilst ignoring that the actual, ultimate moving force is not the algorithm-based competition but, rather, the wishes of the people who have ordered it to be crafted?..

[@mayamayhemmusic]

Catnip can also be grown yourself quite easily c:

[@freshbornmute2752]

''Cockroach smoothie'' XD

[@iamnohere]

I: I´m bad at distinguishimg between y´all´s voices at times, so I don´t remember who said it, but whoever did, the "even a blid guy with two chromozomes could figure it out" "joke" was uncalled-for. Y´all are doing an amazing job with this podcast, but please be more mindful about your jokes next time. (Perhaps you _have_ been more mindful from the next episode on; I guess I´ll find out soon)

[@briancordry8165]

white guy in the midwest checking in... i'm HIGHLY offended

[@eldizo_]

Regarding advertising, The Century of the Self is a great watch. Last part is kind of trash but it's solid all-around.

[@automaton111]

The reason why we have so many brands of the same product is because there are not enough ways to make a living under capitalism. There are not enough good paying jobs to go around under capitalism. It’s very costly to come up with a truly unique product and get it commercially produced profitably. People rack their brains trying to figure out how to survive. The same thing goes for services. It’s a dog eat dog world and people need to do whatever they can to differentiate themselves to survive. Even if that differentiation is small or not what it’s promised to be. This can lead to things like roadside snake oil salesmen. Even workers seek to differentiate themselves from others who can essentially do the same things.

[@typical_name8682]

30:50 - Sure there is, the Smart ForTwo is one of the coolest cars around! ... It's also not very popular because it kind of sucks and it's mileage isn't even good despite it's small size. The electric version is better but has too short of a range for most US car uses. :(

[@samtalksaboutlife464]

The next one is going to be worse then the great Depression

[@pyryko]

Is Yugopnik a cat or is he a baby chicken?

[@zeit.flaeche]

I am greatly disappointed in the botanical misinformation Hakim is spouting out here! Catnip (Nepeta cataria) is in the family of Lamiaceae - so it's about as closely related to a grass as Capitalism is to fairness.

[@zizkovhoodmoments1590]

I thought of that too when I heard it

[@emmasilver2332]

For the Algorithm!!!

[@Jace_AuVin]

But what's worse Hakim, English or French?

[@ShehuStebe]

Umm Kulthum in the background and all

[@IkomaTanomori]

Perpetual employment is a positive? Nooooooooooooooo. No. It's a mistake. I mean I hate being unemployed because I'm forced to need money to live but maybe there's good reasons not to have everyone work all the time either. Maybe survival shouldn't be tied to labor. Consider: the elderly, the very young, the disabled.

[@samtalksaboutlife464]

I mean i love the deprogram, but sometimes how they talk and i know it is mostly sarcastiv, but the future seems hopeless when they talk

[@NK-ge7qk]

39:43 30:10 30:19

[@nicholascharles9625]

Hakim just put on an Australian accent. You can swear as much as you want as an Australian.

[@Rawr_0w0]

My russian sapogis have lasted me 3 years now amd where made in the 60s lol I only had tp change the soles. I wasnt alive in the 60s lol

[@garyfookins9968]

yt algo punch

[@neurosurgeonatwork8334]

❤

[@HallyVee]

Lol omg Nutella blackface wow

[@lijahv8586]

For the algorithm 👄

[@krybling]

wut wut

[@avigailpekelman8239]

Wut wut?

[@vvy6641]

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[@executeorder6613]

Wut wut!

[@LongshanMusic]

ren-NO lol

[@JumpsyTurvy]

This comment is going to consist entirely of filler text in order to influence the algorithm toward your videos, if you continue to read this text you will surely be wasting your time as sure as I don't need to keep typing. I think the word count on comments isn't weighted, but incase it is I'm ongoing with this comment. The Comment. The Comment for the video. The comment specifically meant for this video.

[@leonardodavinci7524]

For algo

[@avigailpekelman8239]

Who?

[@avigailpekelman8239]

Who?

[@emanuelneagu14]

@@avigailpekelman8239 KZbin algorithm. When you comment, the algorithm counts it as interaction and it helps the channel.

[@xibucksgrindset6379]

algorithm

[@AJ-lo5dr]

also if you are doing blackface with something as light brown as nutella then you are a ridiculous individual 🤕

[@Landofjello]

It's funny how they'd make fun of capitalists for not understanding socialism/communism, and then go on to demonstrate their complete ignorance in capitalism lmao

[@MarxistMogger]

if marx was right about anything it was all the shit he wrote about capitalism

[@HakimButSouthAfrican]

😂😂😂😂Yugopnik going to work in black face is so funny oh my god 😂😂😂

[@pootisengage6672]

This was a nice episode! Keep it up!

[@danku-chan]

catboy yugopnik. someone draw it now.

[@F_imperialists]

Still looking for the title of the theme.

[@RedPandaMoment]

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[@executeorder6613]

wut wut?