The Deprogram Episode 14 - Communism is when no toothbrush (pt.2)

[@liasonlee1248]

I am a socialist because of pure anger and sadness, the injustice on people who are dying despite the things they need to survive are just a few feet near them, all denied by the ultra rich.

[@scrumpy8192]

I can accept sharing an ass toothbrush but I draw the line at carbonated water.

[@justaguy6216]

The way you guys title these videos. My dad as a conservative, he caught me within this video. I told him this is a video criticising communism. Then he went on a 20 min rant on how communism bad, China bad, Russia bad and left. I was just nodding along.

[@batty_babette]

Nice save!

[@goutamboppana961]

good trick

[@snownukitro-A]

isn't russia capitalist?

[@justaguy6216]

@@snownukitro-A Yes they are, but my dad thinks they're commie, for some reason lol.

[@KozelPraiseGOELRO]

​@@justaguy6216 "Communism is when Eastern Capitalism" -Your dad, maybe.

[@eymed2023]

When McCarthyists describe Capitalism, they describe Capitalism in fantasy. When McCarthyists describe Socialism, they describe Capitalism in reality.

[@andreifilip6364]

Go and write this on a subway wall IMMEDIATELY

[@thematronsmilitia]

"ooh commie blocks" I was the guy running around the lumberyard in 110° heat collecting the 2x4s to build the quarter million dollar cookie cutter houses that drove the cost of living in my hometown so high I had to leave.

[@owenbelezos8369]

half a million where I live, kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z5asqYirqq-Lbbs [commie blocks were actually good]

[@reda4961]

"these people listen to podcasts they do not read" so fcking true

[@lulianjuliuswassbach]

Yes, oh my god, I'm way to lazy

[@heathab1539]

A woman listener here, I'll only admit to minimal cringe 🤣💜

[@VivaciousBelligerent]

Hahaha saaaame!

[@Prosciutttto]

Reporting in!

[@untraceablefgc-9mkii251]

I already listened all episodes on Spotify, i shall commet for the algorithm!

[@Ghdfshhs]

Al gore rhythm

[@theregalproletariat]

'Commet'? Look, ladies and gentlemen, the listeners cometh.

[@avigailpekelman8239]

for the algorithm!

[@dualidea]

Algo

[@benjamins.10]

I'm an American ML and the left here frustrates me, too, lol.

[@LargeGanny]

I'm a Vaushist-Bidenist and I 100 percent agree. The left can be annoying

[@zacdelos]

@@LargeGanny ew "market" socialism

[@LargeGanny]

@@zacdelos irony

[@vadimk3484]

I'm a Russian ML, and the left here are mostly nationalists in a red wrapper. The Ukrainian dumpster fire exposed the rotten core of these "comrades" very well.

[@fun_ghoul]

@@vadimk3484 Would you care to elaborate? Also, Vadim is a Ukrainian name, right?

[@Naheed_Ahmed14]

Mashallah daddy The Deprogram has uploaded.

[@binnahgondwe5158]

Please do one more "communism is when..." episode please.

[@dripster4424]

I can’t get enough of those jokes

[@KozelPraiseGOELRO]

Communism is when bakers do bread, but also no because no food in communism.

[@Atoll-ok1zm]

"Don't want to work hard" yeah I became an engineer out of laziness.

[@vebdaklu]

So true! I had a similar comment directed at me, and I was like - I have a phd, I work in research, I write and record music, do a little bit of electronics and coding, and I speak like 3 languages, working on a 4th one. Do I strike you as a lazy person? 😂

[@artemagarkovdwemerion4644]

0:24:00 Apparently all the KGB agents have the same sleep schedule as I do

[@DinoCism]

We all have our "Kaczynski was right" moments.

[@goutamboppana961]

who is kaczynski?

[@otavajunkkala983]

@@goutamboppana961 The unabomber I think.

[@KekusMagnus]

when the nihilistic urge takes over

[@SebastianTaylor-e3y]

Heard a bird mimic a Jackhammer at night in Houston.

[@k.c.2084]

I am a poor white communist in Wisconsin. You can keep your tongue to yourself comrade.

[@fun_ghoul]

There is no such thing as "white", comrade. Why do you identify so strongly with European colonizer terms?

[@resinks2269]

the strangest thing about the "everything is grey" argument for me is, that in west germany (NRW) where I life people have similiar buildings as privately owned for rent apartment complexes. Because they were cheap to build and the rhineland was the heart of german industry and coal mining, so many low earning workers lived here.

[@RoyalFusilier]

A ton of the most common anti-communist arguments are straight up projection. Like, things capitalism does that are bad, they just say "that's commies". Starvation, gray mass-produced buildings, shoddy products, scarcity, military buildups, people who feel they have no control of their society, etc.

[@brayxan4741]

1:11:29 Molchat Doma everyday sounds more like heaven than 1984.

[@DinoCism]

Molchat Doma slaps. '1984' should be the name of my SovietWave playlist.

[@jansecj9472]

Communism is when Hakim curses in arabic, lmao. Great Ep

[@Carlos-yw8qi]

I read, and yes, I am from Wisconsin. I feel so noticed

[@Jace_AuVin]

The KGB gave my grandpa LIGMA

[@KozelPraiseGOELRO]

Who the hell -Steve Jobs- your grandpa?

[@EnverHalilHoxha1917]

​@@KozelPraiseGOELROligma balls

[@veglord_the_profane]

In Hungary, even those who are more right-leaning tend to remember socialism fondly, and say that life was better in the Kádár era.

[@vitaminluke5597]

In my experience as an American who's lived in Germany, they like carbonated water far, far more in Germany than in the USA.

[@LeZylox]

yeah they like it too much it creates way to many usless vehicular miles

[@julians.2597]

@@LeZylox wdym useless, we might have great drinking water here but it's absolutely essential that we buy the water bottled rather than carbonate it at home

[@theideaofevil]

Germany, the home of seltzer!

[@americancommunist6076]

Feel like shit, let me rest here

[@chompythebeast]

*24:53* Extraneous is actually correct in that situation, comrade. You're not stupid, you're better with the language than most!

[@fun_ghoul]

The accusation of envy is pure projection. It's what drives those CHUDs.

[@Smeatsbeats]

So conservatives won't take my guns, you won't take my guns.... SOUNDS LIKE A HORSESHOE

[@Queen_of_Coffee]

Honestly the people bitching about drab grey apartments baffle me. Due to the DNA responsible for the cones in my eyes being coded weird, I cannot see colour at all. I see everything like it’s displayed on a weird arse 1080p monitor that only displays in greyscale with the brightness cranked up to maximum. But I still have some level of eyesight. I’m not gonna yoink my own eyeballs just because they aren’t perfect. Just like I’m not gonna turn down a free home that meets a decent standard of living just because it isn’t pretty. Because both of those things would be dumb as frick.

[@LeZylox]

29:05 yea yougopnik is right on that one, but huge respect to people who do read!

[@alexisgarcia1344]

I love your intro and outro music.

[@YouHaveAnApeHead]

Same.

[@gregtiwald]

Yellow tint in Mexico? The only yellow tint I know is Parenti

[@adamsmith7058]

Yep. If my skills in that domain were better, I'd remaster those videos. Could probably do the audio, but the visual side would have to be someone else.

[@RoyalFusilier]

People are restoring clips from Babylon 5, Deep Space 9, etc, into modern resolutions and doing amazing things, somebody must be able to do the same for Parenti.

[@YouHaveAnApeHead]

Yellow parenti > literally any other lecture

[@SlickNinja1984]

@YaBoiHakim I became a Marxist that day too, my beautiful comrade. I was in Baghdad that day on the opposite side of the conflict.💯✊️✊🏽⚒️🇨🇳🇨🇺🇵🇸🇮🇶

[@deadcard13]

I just need to know how to deprogram someone who is hopelessly invested into the propaganda of Reaganonics. This person is solidly on tte poverty line and has had a number of hardships because they were denied to social resources and safety nets. They still espout tte nonsense that anybody can elevate themselves if they just stop being lazy. I don't need this person to hang picture of Lenin in their living room, just need them to understand why I don't still own a house.

[@Queen_of_Coffee]

That’s cope-ium for you, their life sucks, so they like to imagine that it’s a personal thing that they feel they can control as opposed to a broader system that is actively screwing them over that is much more difficult to change. It’s like denying climate change or buying into the bs that corporations feed us to make us feel responsible for it. Because the reality of climate change is bloody terrifying, they cling to the notion that none of it’s real and everything is fine or that they can control the situation by recycling their rubbish, or using fewer straws. There is one thing most people hate, and that is the loss of control over some aspect of their lives. In fact, a lot of the fear mongering about socialism is based on this notion of losing control of your life.

[@waspwrap1235]

This was a great video and addition to the series

[@TheDoubleBee]

56:30 - "We got off the Mayhem." - I mean, it's not wrong.

[@adambendele8227]

Hakim was so correct about sparkling water tasting like tv static

[@LordWoodlouse]

Full on ASMR from kissing my ear there.

[@WesternCommie]

Every time I find a book about communism post free online, it is usually posted by someone in India. It is amazing and I love it.

[@kaan1780]

13:35 I don't know why this cracked me up so much.

[@pequodexpress]

But do you have a large donor CO2 tank to refill the cartridges?

[@AlexM-is6ru]

I have little tanks but I refill them at a local paintball shop.

[@emmasilver2332]

For the overthrow of the Almighty Dollar!

[@ericktellez7632]

I bet JT buys Topo Chico

[@SecondThought]

I don’t, but my brother never shuts up about it haha

[@KozelPraiseGOELRO]

​@@SecondThought Tu hermano apoyando industria mexicana. Bueno, no en realidad porque es de la Coca-Cola. Buy (make them buy) Pascual products instead.

[@andren55]

Keep up the good work!!!

[@leroitiaks]

Is it possible to have a link to the CIA report on Staline? I need it for my in-law

[@vincent9068]

Does anyone have a link to the research about what the US public wants vs what lobbying groups/corporations want vs what laws get passed that Hakim mentioned at 18:30? It sounds like a good resource to have on hand but googling isn't getting me anywhere.

[@CraigKeidel]

It's in one of ST's videos, he probably sources it there.

[@andrecorreia2338]

I want to get drunk with Yugopnik one day

[@jztchannel]

love that dude from wisconsin is a reaccuring bit XD I feel like I'm directly being spoken to.

[@Cynon]

I go through so much sparkling water that I'm known for it in all of my social groups. The cheap club soda is usually the best in my experience.

[@sirnoobs8098]

id like a source for ppl in the DPRK having artillery

[@Smeatsbeats]

I listen exclusively for the book recs and theme song. I skip all the nonsense about tooth brush and vuvuzela. I absolutely do not do the exact opposite.

[@KozelPraiseGOELRO]

15:50 I have no problem with only one party. Here in Mexico, we used to have only one party, that party was the PRI, but back then was called PRN. It was no problem for decades, until some take power of the party and changed its direction, kicking (or more accurate, killing) the leftists. The famous (or infamous) case of Colosio, many suspect that the competence, Carlos Salinas was who killed him. Both were in the same party but they where very different, almost opposites.

[@genossewurzelkobold3141]

Greetings from Germany, Rot Front 🚩✊🏾

[@monika.alt197]

As an indian commie. Even we don't know the differences between the 300 gorrillion communist parties here.

[@MoMo-rx4zr]

The Indian right thinks you’re all Naxalites anyway lol.

[@krishnannarayanan8819]

Fellow leftist in the making here, I wish we students had the time to organize instead of just being busy wtih exams

[@jackotrades0888]

13:00 ish- as a woman, I am probably worse at picking my battles than y’all.

[@rug052]

unsubbing carbonated water is goated

[@sunflowersamurai10]

29:29 say no more

[@shadeaquaticbreeder2914]

The inner city thing here is real tho. It's not that you don't trust minorities, it is a bad idea to trust anyone from the city. They are most likely all trying to scam you or rob you in some way. But it's also funny when people try to act like it's nothing when all my life I've been told there are places near me I can't go or I'd get killed just bc I don't look and act like those people and I'm not from there. How do you square that?!? It's not a lie or unrealistic to say that if you live in the country or outside of the city and a more community-based areas then you may not have to lock your doors still. But today even the places I grew up where we did not have to lock our stuff everyone does now. You still can't trust most people but there definitely seems like a lot more people that are openly willing to help you or just be kind when in the city it feels more like a 'don't even look at me' type vibe and nobody will help you out with anything no matter what.

[@marcelineraber]

For the women, cis or trans, out there. If you meet people like this, nail them, and the warmth of getting pegged will certainly help them see the light.

[@weo2217]

What have they done?

[@Pantherenjoyer]

All of us 😎use one roll of toilet paper

[@data-dylan]

Hakim's point about GDP just being measure of transactions is incorrect. It is intended to be a measure of finished goods and services produced.

[@YenRestherac]

The "beauty" argument on housing is so ridiculous I'm currently considering living in an acquaitance's couch so I won't have to travel more than 4 hours every day to study... And someone tells me that socialism is bad because a free house is ugly? Bro... I don't have words😂

[@RoughGalaxyYT]

ok I could find kleicha but not the other treat you mentioned. it sounded like "slavi" but that didn't bring anything up. Life goal to eat treats from around the world. I need to know what this is!

[@krybling]

oh no my father drink sprinkled water and he is an alcoholic and im an alcoholic and i drink sprinkled water everyday

[@nkntibarik4321]

39:21 WAS THAT THE BITE OF 87!?😱

[@lotorsempire90]

I would buy this phrase on a Tshirt

[@colonel__klink7548]

Legend says that Vladimir the great, essentially the first emperor of primordial Russia wanted a state religion to give a unifying ethos to his people he studied the great religions of the world and rejected Islam because "I will not be the one to take alcohol from the peasants, robbing what little joy in life they have from them " pretty funny if true.

[@colonel__klink7548]

The disagreement over horshoe theory comes from a disagreement about how power in government works. "Nazism is just liberalism in decay" as an argument works if you beleive that the government in the "capitalist" society *IS* the same as the class of industry leaders. However this does not work if you beleive they are not the same and the govenrmrnt can and does do things that the capitalists dont like. Example, mr "a" got into power by promising a cadre of capitalists special treatment. When he got into power he then let these capitalists depose and loot all his political enemies thus "privatization" or as he actually called it "aryanization." This is where marxists go "aha! See! Fascism is just extreme defense of private property!" But that means they only pay attention to half the story. The other half of the story is that once mr a had all the power, all his rivals murdered and the army behind him he turned on the very capitalists who helped him and said "good, now you will do as i say with what ive given you and i dont care if you make a profit or not." During the interwar years many started to in fact go bankrupt and theres fair evidence that the invasions started when they needed loot to keep the whole thing from collapsing in on itself. Now this is when idiot liberals who think "garment does thing" is socialism scream "see! Fascism is socialism!" Because in tbe end even as the capitalists were allowed to gorge themselves on the nazi party's enemies they only were allowed to exist as long as they met state objectives. The nazi state did not care if they turned a profit or not as evidenced by their auturky program (whicn crippled the german economy so bad pre war it actually probably lost them the war before it even started. ) everything served the state, not profit meaning its not "capitalism." Of course its not "socialism" either becaue they made no pretense of ending heirarchy and class. Tldr both sides of this one are idiots. No the auturkic nazi regime is not "capitalist" just because uncle a's friends were allowed economic loot of his political enemies (or parts of the state ) as a reward for loyalty. No it was not socialist becauee it didnt even pretend to attempt to end class.

[@YenRestherac]

Hmm About it not being capitalism, I'm not sure... Yes, many businesses, small and big, went bankrupt, but mostly light industry ones (food, pharmaceutics, clothing, etc.) The capitalists that funded the nazis campaign actually gained a lot ; they were from the heavy industry. The same thing happened in Mussolini's Italy : they made more roads than what the population needed, they mass-produced artillery, yet their internal economy, if we can call it that, was collapsing And yes, that sort of very late-stage capitalism inevitably led to war, as they needed to invade lands in order to preserve the profits made in the heavy industry

[@LK-mv5xw]

Were they referencing contrapoint's video about envy when discussing the arguement that "communists/marxist are envious of the rich and that's why they are communists/marxist"? Because I don't think that was the message of her video.

[@iamnohere]

I: I don´t think they were. The argument is unfortunately effing common, and more likely than not to be espoused by people who have never watched Contra´s video, and probably never would. (I don´t think it was her point either, and I hope it wasn´t, though I also get why the vid might potentially come across that way, especially if someone has already had bad-faith "envy" arguments thrown at them before watching it)

[@dizzymetrics]

29:06 true lmao, I haven't read a single book aside from Wretched of the Earth Audiobooks, baby

[@garyfookins9968]

algo punch (me in the balls to tenderize them for the hungry mouths of the kgb tonight)

[@ceterfo]

Where o live it's illegal to have a garden lager then 10% of exposed earth

[@SephStuff_]

but venezuela 😢

[@Professionalminigolfer69]

Hail Satan

[@miaumiau679]

Amen brother

[@monika.alt197]

Hail stalin too

[@henrystokes1987]

Serious question, in regard to the horse shoe theory that was mentioned early in the Podcast and how the far rights wishes to purge ethnic minorities while the far left want to protect ethnic minorities. I don't see that as being historically accurate as far as Communist regimes are concerned? Like the christians in the USSR, specifically Ukrainians and other ethnic minorities, Or the various ethnic minorities in China that still to this day gets sent to re education camps. I would really love to hear you guys be a little bit more critical and honestly analytical of the more successful larger Communist regimes perhaps talk about ways in which they divorced themselves from the original ideology or perhaps where they went wrong somewhere along the way. I understand that the majority of the fetishism is just comedy, but by no means were Stalin or Mao saints or protectors of ethnic minorities

[@YouHaveAnApeHead]

I think you are new to this Comrade. I'll keep this short, they weren't oppressed. Infact in China the Uyghur population has grown faster then the Han population. Han population 2010 : 1,220,844,520 Han population 2020 : 1,286,310,000 Han population % change : +5.36321% Uyghur population 2010 : 10,069,346 Uyghur population 2020 : 11,774,538 Uyghur population % change: +16.9345%

[@YouHaveAnApeHead]

There also is 0 proof of death camps in China unless Wikipedia is suddenly a 100% accurate source. ( its not )

[@SMT-ks8yp]

Christians were minority in the former Russian Empire? Really? And no, they didn't have anything against minor nations, they were actually developing them, undoing what the Empire did... well, there were the deportations, but I doubt that anyone justifies them today.

[@SeaCowsBeatLobsters]

Population is not a measure of oppression.

[@henrystokes1987]

@@YouHaveAnApeHead in that case, would you hold the same rule for Palestinian population changes over time? Ex. 700,000-6,700,000 between 1948 and 2023? By your own logic, there is no oppression of the Palestinian people in Isreal, Comrade

[@Turdfergusen382]

I’d rather die in the street then have housing for all.

[@milophone8069]

Oathbringer by Brandon Sanderson

[@JustJanitor]

1000th like

[@TurdInternational]

wish Hakim went on listing countries, but using the animaniacs song