The Derailleur Hack They Don't Want You to See

[@JeffCowan]

This is actually some of the best bike content on youtube right now.

[@briantammi142]

100% agree

[@TheTravelingCyclist]

I really dig this hack...speaking as a bike mechanic, if you can make parts of the same generation work with each other in a way that functions, why not Frankenstein it. Love your creativity and willingness to see an idea through to fruition.

[@lukjad007]

This is the kind of content I would miss if you partnered with a bike manufacturer or manufacturers.

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

Enjoy it while it lasts :)

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

Yeah. Tired of being broke to do bigger projects :)

[@lukjad007]

@@PathLessPedaledTV I get you, and would still enjoy your content but I wish there was another model that would work.

[@MrEmptyKay]

I love shade-tree mechanic stuff like this. But this is only a problem if you want (or are stuck with) the Type 3 mountain derailleur. For anybody that is okay with a 42T large cog (those of us that know double chainrings are better...go on, change my mind), the Type 2.1 10s rear MTB derailleurs are perfect with a longer B-screw, and will work with either 10s or 11s road shifters. I've got 10s Red shifters on a Type 2.1 X0 rear derailleur on my Gorilla Monsoon, and it works great. Admittedly, this is great for somebody looking to upgrade a bike that came stock with an Apex1 or Force1 from the factory to be able to use large ratio cassettes with road shifters. In conclusion, this gives people options, and options are awesome, so this is awesome. Carry on.

[@JeffWagen]

I talked with you about getting a SX just for the swap, but I found out it will not work properly, the cage lock are in different positions, it can be done by drilling but I don't think it is worth the mess, a NX is just a few bucks more. I love your videos, thank you so much for sharing all that stuff with us, I hope one day you can come to Brazil, we have amazing places to ride here, if I go to USA one day I'll certainly try to ride with you ( if you don't mind, obviously)!

[@rollinrat4850]

Don't bother with NX or SX, period. Save up for GX or better. Or better yet, get a Shimano equipped bike in the first place. The return springs on the cheap Sram models tends to be really weak because they're simply cheap and compromised. We can rarely get them to shift well in both directions, even when theyre brand new off the showroom floor.

[@RobertHill]

For the Shimano guys and gals out here, I have heard rumors that the Ultegra RX 800/805 derailleur and the XT M8000 (possibly M9000) long cage derailleur are able to be cage-swapped around too. I plan to attempt it and will probably record it for the internet, success or fail. I find 11-40 to be a fine cassette size, but I'd like to be able to use a larger chainring difference without running afoul of capacity limits, which I believe this swap will net me 45T of capacity vs 39T I currently have.

[@MAGAIVER]

You can also just use the GRX 1x rear derailleur it is much cheaper then buying an Ultegra and XT derailleurs. Then again this comment is 7 months old and maybe you couldn't get GRX back then.

[@TwinShards]

I have done just that (not for what you have show) but fairly close of. I've already taken spares part from non-working Derailleur and used them on the one i had problem on. -Changing springs -Changing the main screw that hold the derailleur and other parts... This derailleur still work at 100% even with all the harsh winter i gave it at Montreal haha Oh and, this is really painful to reassemble the springs you didn't had to deal with. Loading, holding the plate and putting back on the C-Clip is hard.

[@jffydavy5509]

Great work! I have been doing things like this for years but I have no KZbin experience. I took a nine speed flat bar shifter from a Japanese company and teamed it with an Italian road racing derailleur and it worked far better than the matched set I started with. Neither of those companies want to know that.

[@Sk8free09]

If you are going to remove cables a lot you can soldier the ends so they won’t fray. You just need acidic flux for the stainless steel. I just started soldiering mine and it feels much more finished. It doesn’t take too long to practice. $30 for a cheap soldiering kit and Acid flux.

[@ianiscaratti4924]

grx derailleurs work with road shifters and shimano mtb derailleurs work with road shifter too if you use the wolftooth tanpan adapter

[@KurtisPape]

Just done this today with rival 1 derailleur and GX eagle cage, it was so easy! Just dont undo cage bolt until you have released clutch tension. For some reason I took bolt out first on GX derailleur and the clutch come flying out.

[@67daltonknox]

I wanted to convert a road bike with SRAM Force to straight bars and a 12-36 rear cassette. The cheapest fix I could come up with was microSHIFT MTB shifters and derailleur and an Inkesky chain. It works well. I'm pleased with the result.

[@friscoboy98]

Great video Russ! I'm going to try this out as well. Purchasing a SRAM GX Long Cage and a Sunrace 11-Speed 11-42T for my stock Midnight Special. Will come back and report the results!

[@GreatEgret]

I have a Rival on my bike and a GX just sitting around. Did you try this? Did it work?

[@friscoboy98]

@@GreatEgret Unfortunately I wasn't able to try it out. The cage I bought was only part of the assembly. It would have required me purchasing a SRAM GX derailleur ... so I decided not to move forward (returned the cassette) with the experiment.

[@PeteChurchill]

Just in case you were still looking for an answer to this - I'm running a Sunrace 11-46 on my Midnight Special, which works fine with a Rival long cage derailleur. Don't even need to go as far as an Eagle derailleur.

[@ytubeusr2008]

This is great information, keep up the great videos, and thanks.

[@johnbouttell5827]

Very interesting. I always take jobs like this down to my local bike shop. They know what they're doing and I want to support them.

[@citizenwolf8720]

Great video. For me, I put a flat bar on my gravel bike and used shimano XT components. So I have an 11-speed ultegra cassette (11-32), with an XT derailleur and an XT triple front chainring (24, 34, 44). The triple front chainring is supposed to be for a 10-speed cassette, but I've had no issues.

[@solarfunction1847]

I found a way around using a road bike derailleur on a mtb frame years ago by buying a Problem Solvers Cross Clamp with Cable Pulley 34.9mm Black component. Basically it's a frame clamp with a 1" diameter pulley which is placed below the front derailleur because mtb cable guides are setup where the cable would attach to the top of the mtb derailleur but a road derailleur cables attach from the bottom. This is very handy if you want a road derailleur that weighs 240g instead of a mtb derailleur that might weigh 360g. The same can be said for changing a mtb from using a mtb rear derailleur to use a road rear derailleur where you might shave off another 250g. I used to race competitively many years ago & although I'm too old now to keep doing that I'm also unable to ride a normal road frame because of a back injury. If you are using a carbon fibre mtb frame with 700c wheels for riding if you have a damaged back like I have then a mtb frame can give you the right triangular shape with arms & back so as not to cause further back trauma while still being able to continue riding even though the days of competition racing are long gone. I was able to create a hybrid type of bike from combining a mtb frame, mtb crankset with 700 x 23c wheels/tyres relatively lightweight & fast enough for my broken body to easily ride around on. A typical store bought lightweight mtb could not be configured in the right angles needed to be comfortable for my back as well as they do not come with road wheels or other road components.

[@ivanjednobiegowiec7656]

That is pretty awesome thing mate. Wondering if 2x Rival/Force rear mech will be also working with transplant of MTB cage. You just inspired me to explore 😁 Top job!!! I.

[@ChrisinOSMS]

I appreciate your content. I have enjoyed tinkering with my bicycles most of my life. Nothing this cool though, well done.👍

[@rich.e]

Pro Tip: a little bit of super glue on the end of the cable prevents fraying.

[@davidadamus177]

How about a cable crimp? Simple solution. 2 seconds to install.

[@dperreno]

Note: this hack will ONLY work on SRAM 1x road rear derailleurs. I wish I had known that before I bought an SX only to find that it won't work on my Force 22 rear derailleur. So now I'm shopping for a 1x road derailleur. Let's see if it works for me.

[@innocentiuslacrim2290]

I converted an old 3x9 Shimano Alivio to 1x9 wide range with super cheap Aliexpress parts. I first tried looking bike store parts, but there just the narrow-wide chain ring cost more than the whole thing through Aliexpress did.

[@ohiomoto]

Great job!!! So the stock Rival can go to 46t or 50t with a modified cage. My GRX will go to 46t as well. It might not be a BAD IDEA to see if a XT cage would take it to a 50t. 😁

[@franekszymanski2790]

I have see people using stock 11s xt derailleur with a 50t cog just fine

[@dkessler14]

As I understand it, the 1x GRX is *already* using essentially the same cage as 11-speed XT (which also has a spec 46t max). Now whether the 12-speed XT cage (with 51t max) will fit the 11-speed RDs is an interesting question.

[@Freddy3792]

@@dkessler14 I have seen a video where they put an XT SGS cage on a GRX 1x derailleur and actually used it with two front chainrings and a very big cassette giving you ultimate range.

[@ashlandbikeco]

With careful chain length, most 1x Sram road setups will run 11-46 gearing quite well.

[@HalimiSaidi]

this feels like watching secrets of a magician's tricks :D

[@michaeljohl4669]

Actually the compatibility of road components ended with Shimano 7-Speed groups in the 90ies. That‘s when Shimano destroyed nearly all other rival groups like Edco, Mavic, Suntour, Sachs (actually now SRAM) etc. they were even not compatible among each other (Ultegra 600 / Dura Ace) when they introduced STI.

[@f3rg971]

I have the 1st-gen 10sp Force and X9, and they don't have that handy bolt over the spring. I'm not sure how it comes off, possibly by force, but I don't want to destroy anything.

[@janbertaarnink2330]

9-speed MTB derailleurs work with 10-speed road shifters (except for Tiagra 4700). Chains/cassettes are much cheaper for 10-speed anyways

[@juanpablojimenez2755]

Thanks for your informative videos. Have taken SRAM Rival ten-speed shifters (now on a third bike) and matched them up to a SRAM GX ten-speed rear derailleur on a gravel bike build. The exact-actuation works as it should. This came about after setting up my road bike with SRAM 22 Force shifters. Did not upgrade the ten-speed Force rear derailleur, and this combo works well. So, what I am saying is, why not use a GX ten-speed rear derailleur?

[@brucewilliams8966]

Hey Russ, because of this video series, I have decided to Budget Mullet my touring bike into a gravel grinder. I am converting a Shimano 3x w/ Bar-end shifters (which I loathe) to a SRAM Rival 1x group with an 11-42 cassette. When I can afford to buy an NX Eagle derailer to cannibalize, I'll upgrade to the 46. Thanks for the great info.

[@AlfredNazGates]

I asked my local shop on doing something like this, via hybrid bike made more into a road bike but they wouldnt do it. I was thinking of just throwing a roadbike crankset on there. They recommended just buying an entirely new bike, their lowest starting at a grand for my needs.

[@rneillmojo]

Totally a cool thought from your not bad ideas realm

[@Jonm1211]

Super elegant solution.

[@karlkrieg858]

Awesome video you're literally killing the game with that hack ! Love it... Is the long shape same for the 12 speed as 11 speed NX ?

[@ravennexusmh]

you can do similar with a shimano 105 5800 rear mech and the cage of a t670 SGS touring/mtb mech. this allows the running of 11 speed xt 11-42 cassettes with the road 34-50 front setup. sup climby low gear 34-42 but still 50-11 for top end

[@JeffWagen]

Now that's what I'm talking about!

[@papajapluk3471]

Interesting material Thank you for your work

[@patrickschep4709]

Just an FYI, this won't work on a sram Apex 1 derailleur because the little stop bolt (idk what it's called) is in a completely different place. It looks like the garbaruk cage may work with it though as they have 2 different holes drilled

[@walkwithmetravel3596]

I don't get it. Why not just use a Wolftooth derailleur extender? I don't like to hackenstein a device only to leave another device unuseable.

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

Because it doesn’t shift as smoothly. We’ve done videos testing it. Also just wanted to see what’s possible.

[@podfunk]

If you're running Shimano and want to use dropbars with a mountain bike drive chain on a touring/gravel type bike then look into Gevenalle shifters.

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

Oh. Like this? kzbin.info/www/bejne/qoKsXoKFd7d6nsU

[@tkrym7023]

Did it work with 10-52 cassettes?

[@jordanpapin732]

The Rival 1 is a 11 speed RD with exact actuation ratio, so it will work well with 10 speed mtb flat bar Sram rear shifter such as X5, X7, X9, GX, ect and a 10 speed wide range cassette Those 10 speed shifter have exact actuation pull. So if you want a 10 speed 1x10 SRAM mtb transmission you can have : 11-42 with standard Apex 1, Rival 1 or Force 1 long cage RD Shimano or Sunrace 11-42 10 speed cassette 11-46 with modded Apex 1, Rival 1 or Force 1 NX cage RD Shimano or Sunrace 11-46 10 speed cassette 11-50 with modded Apex 1, Rival 1 or Force 1 NX cage RD ZTTO or other chinese 11-50 10 speed cassette

[@gabrieltempesta2604]

So it should also work if you have a Rival 1 shifter and an X0 derailleur with a 10 speed 11-42 casette?

[@jordanpapin732]

@@gabrieltempesta2604 you need a 10 speed shifter with a 10 speed cassette

[@pauldimaano4502]

Great content. Thanks Russ

[@shamoy1000]

I had no idea the shifters were different. Back to the old style shifters for now

[@yonseimatt]

Just a note of caution. The angle of the parallelogram on road derailleurs is more horizontal, so the top pulley may not clear the big sprocket no matter how much you wind in the B screw. With the 1x specific clutch road derailleurs, it's less of an issue, but the old non-clutch derailleurs definitely won't give you more range with this hack.

[@yonseimatt]

Great vid though!

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

It works 💯 Been riding it for weeks.

[@dkessler14]

SRAM 1x uses what they call "X-Horizon" which is SRAM-speak for a non-slanted parallelogram. Pulley distance is controlled entirely by the offset of the pulley from the pivot point. That's one of the reasons this hack works so well.

[@yonseimatt]

@@dkessler14 True, thanks for the clarification. I was talking of course about the old 2*10 road stuff, and I know that doesn't work cos I tried it, years ago *d'oh!*

[@hawyee4582]

Pro tip just convert to single speed, I'll never go back to derailleur shifting not until I'm too old to pedal a single speed. I change my gear ratio based on weather summer is obviously super high fast gears and winter is low and slow.

[@XXHARDLUCKRACINGXX]

This series is great! Thx

[@jeukennephilippe8167]

Great video, thank. FYI, it does not work with a Sram Force X1 as the little stop screw is on the oppisite side than the NX

[@brandonyadegarimoreno2942]

Do you mean the Force 1 Type 3? Ahhhhh! I wonder if it'd work with the Force 22? With either a 1x or 2x setup.

[@alessandrouk2]

Apex 1 or Rival 1 Rear Deraileaur Works with cassete and shifters 2x10 MTB ? Apex have same cable pull Sram MTB 2x10, i think, works.

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

No it doesn’t work. Cable pull between 10 and 11 is different.

[@partsbinspecial1457]

So maybe this is a stupid question, but why does shifter and derailleur compatibility matter at all? If all of the indexing happens at the shifter end, then as long as you have the correct spacing between the cogs and a long enough derailleur cage, shouldn't any derailleur just do whatever the shifter tells it to do? I understand that the cable pull differs between shifters, but again, the derailleur itself has no indexing. The answer probably has something to do with parallelograms, but I'm still confused...

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

The answer is cable pull. It use to be that the derailleur reacted to the same ratio of cable pull as the shifter. But that has been decoupled since 10spd. Some derailleur move more or less given the same amount of cable pull from the shifter n

[@MonkeyShred]

It’s THIS simple? AH! I have a broken 11 speed mtb derailleur. I’ll have to check what was actually broken and if the cage is good just swap it to a rival!

[@brentmiller4060]

Nice video trying to figure cheapest route to get 10-50 on my rival 1 shifter

[@jhaye1502]

They said you can use GX 10s rear derailleur on rival without modifications since they have the same pull ratio

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

Yeah but they don't have capacity to do larger cassettes.

[@hondasaurusrex6998]

Good stuff! Did that hack on old campy record derailleur after changing to larger sprockets on the freewheel.

[@geo6111]

Pretty good stuff right here folks!

[@kevp68]

Another great video and a great hack. I know you can only do hacks with the equipment you have, but if you could do these hacks in the future using Shimano road and MTB parys it would be great. Maybe some of your fans have done this and could share links?

[@richardharker2775]

I have to wonder where the mini geared hubs/gearbox start to make sense.

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

For me never. Can’t tinker with those very much.

[@gregsullivan7408]

Me too - I have heard that Shimano have a patent that has less friction than Rohloff & Pinion etc. I hope that comes to fruition. (still won't be as efficient as a chain & derailleur though)

[@michaeltan511]

Would this work with a 2x setup?

[@joshuarussell4803]

#bikefishing...please bring this back around from the cave of really fucking good ideas. I ride a '97 Gary Fisher KaiTai that I have done everything I can to spruce up with consideration for both function and form. Additionally, I have recently rekindled my passion for fishing, though as a bass angler for the past 2 years. The Smoky Mtns and other headwaters are not so far from my spot, and tenkara seems like a natural choice. Cruising through some of your older vids; really love the bulk of the work you are putting out, and really dig anything that crosses bikes and fishing. #postpeacecorpsptsd #dirtneck

[@coachstevoS]

you can also just change the cable fin. take the cable fin from the rival off and put it on the mtb derailleur.

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

You could, but it doesn't work on every iteration of Eagle. Lower levels and even NX have a non removable fin.

[@johnprice1105]

Is it possible to change the pull travel on shifters as I have shimano 7 speed shifter and a 5 speed freewheel sprocket and wondered if I can make the original deraileur work without changing it or the freewheel

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

No.

[@brettlopresti]

Master Class right here folks!😀

[@KurtisPape]

Wow thanks heaps! Still doesn't solve me wanting sram eagle 12 speed with road shifters but at least I can run wide range casette

[@chriseggers689]

Thank you for the videos and info

[@stormeporm]

are you going to try the fin swap to? You can put the cable fin of the rival on the eagle so the actuation is road on the eagle.

[@mykytajex2248]

What's the money clip you keep using? It's bugging me I don't know it!

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

Pink Floyd!

[@Kieranshields89]

Is this to achieve 12 speed?

[@Havardr_Ash_Kenaz]

Hey man I really appreciate your content. I'm looking to mullet my mtb with slx derailleur and pair it with some road shifters and a drop bar. My gravel bike with grx components uses the same slx 11-42 cassette so I thought it wouldn't be a problem.

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

Road shifters pull different cable than mtb shifters.

[@bernatix]

Hi, thanks for the video, whats that polish version called exactly? Might want to look into it to get more reach on my force 1 setup

[@ARGINH]

Nice video Russ! Is that an NX eagle 11 speed derailleur or 12 speed?

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

I think they are 11/12

[@ackthet]

@@PathLessPedaledTV I've never seen an 11 speed NX bike (but it could exist!)

[@nedt]

ackthet plenty out there. No SX 11Sp though... www.sram.com/en/sram/mountain/series/nx Actually the NX cassette is a save our because it's not XD splined it's simple Shimano. About 100$ cheaper here in Aus.

[@ARGINH]

@@ackthet I have one

[@lukesanders768]

Has anybody tried with an Apex instead of a Rival?

[@jemmimafaustere6448]

Does this work on modern rival?

[@scottrodgers2608]

Expect the next generations to have minor enough design changes which won't allow for any of these shenanigans... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Just be proud that you've had an influence on the design of components from such a large company!

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

Or they could just make a derailleur that works.

[@zenofthemoment]

@@PathLessPedaledTV ^This. Why are the top dogs taking so long? It's been a need for at least 5 years already. Sram just needs to mix a couple of existing part numbers into a new derailleur model to make what we need, and Shimano just needs to change the size of the plastic cable pulley inside their shifter to make the pull ratio compatible. Not hard, not expensive, no major tooling to buy, easy ROI...so what's the freaking holdup?! (Rhetorical monologue, no need to defend their sins.)

[@chrstndl.9]

Does this work with a rival 22 11 speed rd and brifters? If it does, this would solve my current dilemma of struggling on the uphills. I have the 2021 Kespor GSX Sram edition. I was planning selling the groupset to buy the new Microshift AdventX until I saw this video. I'm really hoping this also works for me. 🙏

[@dperreno]

Nope - it appears to only work with SRAM Rival 1x rear derailleur (other commenters said it didn't work with Apex 1 or Force 1) Different design, the 22 series does not have a clutch or a removable derailleur stop.

[@dominikfreynschlag8554]

Hi, great work, do you think it will work with force as well ? Thanks .

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

Should work with Force.

[@dominikfreynschlag8554]

Ok, thanks . All the best . Dom By the way do you have any experience wit the crust no r Easter , or what would you recommend for bikepacking . Nor Easter or bombora.

[@nesutoneko]

Anybody finding they are happier with a clutch RD on their gravel bike? Putting a 10 speed Sram gravel bike together now and have the option to go with a MTB or Rival RD.. Rival saves a few bucks and some weight but wondering if I should opt for the clutch?

[@michaeltan511]

Would this hack also work on the 2x rear derailleur version? 🤔

[@filmiro]

Great video Russ! Can you comment on compatibility between a 10 or 11 speed shifter with a 12 speed derailleur and cassette? Looks like you have a 10 speed cassette on there? Are you using a 10 speed shifter? Would this setup work with a 12 speed cassette?

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

Using Rival 11spd shifter with 11spd Garbaruk cassette. Should work with 12 if the derailleur is Exact Actuation.

[@Kactusdog]

@@PathLessPedaledTV Russ. Do you know that if the shifters were fitted with the ratio 12 speed ratchet, that this rear derailleur could handle a 12 speed drivetrain? 12 speed Cassette and probably 12 speed chain and maybe AXS x1 chainring?

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

@@Kactusdog no they won’t work.

[@Kactusdog]

@@PathLessPedaledTV So i did it. It does work.

[@jonasmeier417]

Take for example a SHIMANO STI race bicycle 9-speed combo shifter/brake lever and a SHIMANO Shadow rear derailleur - and it shifts 11-36 teeth easily. Take additionally a "Goat-Link" and shifts 42, 46 or even 50 teeth. SHIMANO is way better than SRAM, they offer many shifters and derailleurs for reasonable prices. SRAM offers Grip-Shift up to 9-speed for good prices, but where are the cheap derailleurs, triggers, MTB, race bicycle parts? SRAM is extremely expensive. Shifters and derailleurs can only shift, a crank can only crank. It's your choice to buy overpriced parts.

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

9speed STI and paired derailleur is no longer in production so it’s sort of a deadens recommendation for most. I’ve played extensively with the goat link and it works most of the time but not always. Whatever way you can dream up of getting wide low gears I’ve tried. This is just another option.

[@JikaInFamous]

i literally know the where you found this hack lol. The guy kept the Eagle as the shifter and it worked flawlessly! Should start doing videos of bike hacks on the internet like myth busters hah. Like if you replace the wide tooth jockey wheels on sram cx1s to see if they shift with 2x. Which sram says they can’t bcuz of x horizon. Good stuff man

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

I found it referenced on multiple forums. I don't that it was oner person.

[@Pshpshpshpshpshpshpsh]

“Long ago the 2 major brands lived harmoniously....Something happened after 10 speed” that’s when the fire nation attacked

[@NickolasRed]

is it possible to fit mtb cage in road derailleur? anyone done that or any thoughts on this?

[@patricioagustin7362]

Hey guys just in case you want to save a little money , you can just buy the sram nx cage instead of buying a complete rear d , almost from any bike shop or distributor, I don’t have the part number but is really easy to find trough the sram website

[@patricioagustin7362]

By the way awesome content!

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

From what i understand only half the cage is available as a part?

[@agustinburgos8074]

@@PathLessPedaledTV you are right I did some research and sram does not provide that specific part sorry for the misinfo

[@augustlandmesser1520]

Is that sign on the inner side of the rear fork says WHERE DID ALL THE MERMAIDS GONE? Bdw, I'm mixing "impossible" bike parts whole my (not so short) life, nothing harm with that if you know what you want and what you're doing... besides that priceless moment of frankensteinian revelation. :)

[@johnnygunz2300]

I love bikes but "bad ideas" is an electric shifter on a bicycle. I don't road bike much besides a single speed track bike but I can't image having to shift allot compared to mountain biking. In my Enduro a 1x11 is enough great and a push+push shifter is very quick and easy. Can someone explain the benefits of an electric shifter? Seems like a massive waste of money. However I said that about dropper posts and are Crow on that.

[@alexanderrigda7002]

haven't seen it yet but wondering if anyone's mentioned the wolf tooth road link for wider range casettes. All it does is drop the casette down from the hanger. just curious - some limitations to its use but maybe too obvious.

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

Yeah. We did like three videos using the road link. This works better.

[@jhawker3561]

Cool ! :-) Been thinking about trying something similar for a while now on my Shimano setup......

[@Alex_564]

Will this Eagle NX cage work on a regular 10spd GX, which as you know works with road shifters also?

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

No.

[@Alex_564]

@@PathLessPedaledTV :-(

[@Archi2g]

What kind of handlebars do you have on the pink bike in the background?

[@jeffdible8171]

Very very cool!

[@weedfreer]

are there any short cage options out there for SRAM GX derailleurs? 🤔

[@tanglewoodtree]

Do you think this would work with an Apex 1 or is the cage too different? Thanks!

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

Literally trying it right now. Works but you lose cage lock.

[@JeffWagen]

From what I saw yes, I was about to get an SX Rd to use the cage, but it will not work properly because the cage lock is in a different position on a SX, but with the NX you can do it, the Apex will accept it just like the rival.

[@greghyde1435]

What size cassette were you running in this video?

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

11-48

[@ejohnsondebaufre]

Hi Russ, I'm wondering if you'd be willing to share the details of your Crust Bombora build. I'm looking to craft a very similar build and thought "Why reinvent the wheel? Russ has already built this!" Thanks!

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/hF7Gl6KBh62Srbc

[@deanvanlaarhoven1413]

99.9 baby!!!!!!!!!!

[@rustymcrobot]

I have Shiftmate #9 from jtek to make my sram 11spd long cage mountain derailleur talk to my rival brifters. works flawlessly. 48/32 up front 11/42 in the rear on a straggler. cheaper than having to get 2 ders and swap parts, simple enough install. peter white stocks them.

[@chrissmith2729]

You must be doing some serious climbing with that setup, I'm running the same jtek, same chainrings and an 11/36. Tried 1x 40f 42r but it wasn't enough and I didn't care for the big jumps between gears. Then I foolishly thought that the 2x10 gx RD would talk to the rival brifters but it didn't work. Glad im not the only one running a hacked 2x out there

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

Aware of the shift mate. Couldn’t find anyone in the US with the 9 in stock.

[@chrissmith2729]

@@PathLessPedaledTV ordered from the uk

[@rustymcrobot]

@@PathLessPedaledTV peter white is where i got mine. they dont advertise that particular one but i called and they had it

[@rustymcrobot]

@@chrissmith2729 i run it somewhat loaded and I'm certainly not the fittest person out there so its nice to have the options to go lower. with my tires the low end is about a 21.6 gear inches. when im dropping down most of the time its generally to the 32/36 combo, but having the megarange bailout happens.

[@TR-xf7pl]

what cage and pullys are on the force cage ?

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZupq3atn9F7aqc

[@mejdrichj]

Or just XT, right? Talks with the Shimano road shifters... Or, am I missing something? Cool hack though...

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

No they don’t. Not since 10spd. The whole Moses and Tower of Babel thing in the beginning.

[@mejdrichj]

Sorry, I meant DI2 - I defer to your knowledge on mechanicals... Thx!

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

I don’t have the money or interest in electronic shifting. So don’t know.

[@ejohnsondebaufre]

I love your reviews and content, Russ! Keep up the great work! Just a few quick questions: so what is the size of the Garbaruk cassette you are using with this hack (10-46, 10-48, or 10-50) and what is the size of the chainring? just curious to know the range you are getting.

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

11-50 cassette. 42 front ring. 23 to 102 gear inches.

[@augustlandmesser1520]

Man, I have feeling that rear sprockets soon will be bigger than wheels...

[@Mattebodra]

What about buying an Apex? I got one that's 11 speed. It works with Red 10 speed levers and shifts up to 50t. I don't see this compatibility issues...

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

I have an apex 1. It technically shifts to 50 but looks like its going to explode any second.

[@jorgemendoza5323]

Wait about the other parts