The Destroyer that Sank 6 Submarines in 12 Days

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[@AMD7027]

Three years late to the party, “hidden history” “untold story”…..hilarious kzbin.info/www/bejne/b2LFloGOiaZneNk

[@jankutac9753]

Sorry but you don't "sink" submarines. They're already under water

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[@mollyunlimited7234]

This is a story I have heard many times, as my uncle was the (21 year old, new "90 day wonder") Sonar Officer serving aboard the England during this time. He was Lt. Augustus Dee Daily Jr., and I have seen him credited with being the crew member who figured out that the misses by the three US ships were due to the Japanese subs noticing the increase of the rate of ping when a ship was readying to fire on them and then going completely still/quiet. So England stopped increasing the rate of ping when they normally would, and instead used mathematical interpolation to calculate a predicted path for the target sub. That's how they were so successful in sinking those 6 subs. The Japanese probably never realized they were being targeted using that tactic. Thank you for producing this video!

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

Wow, this is just absolutely incredible! Let me begin my saying a HUGE Thank You to your Uncle for his service, sounds like he was quite the man. I greatly wish I could edit this video now to add in this excellent information that really makes the story make sense. Also to give your uncle the due credit that he deserves for his actions! Unfortunately the source I used did not go into this deep of detail. But wow. I’m still quite gobsmacked to be honest 😂. Just remarkable information here that you honestly can’t find in the history books. That tactic makes total sense though and why they were able to be so successful. I hope you have an absolutely wonderful weekend and I greatly appreciate you watching this. I hope my video did some justice for the quality of ship and crew that the England was!

[@young749Au]

After listening to the very interesting story about the England, I was trying to determine who was responsible for great success in sinking 6 subs in 12 days. Now I know. It was Lt. Augustus Dee Daily Jr. Thanks for sharing!

[@Soothsayer-rs5nb]

Great information ... thanks Molly

[@Dave5843-d9m]

That sonar ping rate change was probably standard practice for depth charge or Hedgehog. The British Sunderland flying boats also used subterfuge to catch U-boats. At night, they lined up an approach then shut off the radar and after a timed delay powered up a pair of searchlights. When the lights crossed they dropped bombs and almost always got a hit. The subs had no chance to escape.

[@sjb3460]

Thanks for the background information.

[@TheBrettWay]

Not a single mistake absolute perfection recount of this story thank you for doing these brave men a service hidden history

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

Thanks for watching ❤️

[@dannysdailys]

@@samegalle1089 Yeah, he said that.

[@docbailey3265]

Me too. All new to me, and I’m 70.

[@carrickrichards2457]

Ensign England is deservedly well remembered by his namesake ship. The Hedgehog was a game changer. Terence Robertson's biography of Captain Walker RN (of HMS Starling) describes its first RN Uboat kill well.

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

Thanks for watching and have a great week :)

[@kevinstreeter6943]

I was on CG-22. We were told there would always be an England in the navy. That promise was not kept. CG-22 was scrapped and not replaced. Edit: I listened to the end. Thanks for mentioning that.

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

Thank you for your service!

[@christopherskipp1525]

We do not require propaganda, just history. Thank you.

[@OG29]

I served in USS England DLG/CG-22 and I consider it shameful that there is now no USS England. There are few more valiant and selfless shipmates than ENS England and it is unacceptable that his sacrifice is forgotten.

[@samrodian919]

I'm a Brit and I fully agree with you! " There always be an England, God save the King" No not Charlie 3, but his Grandfather, George IV

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

Thank you for your service! I agree as well! Thanks for watching and have a great weekend :)

[@seadog686]

The Navy's great tradition of naming destroyer types (DE, DD, DLG, etc.) after Navy/Marine Corps heroes has been sadly replaced with the political bon mot of naming them after politicians who didn't have a fraction of the nobility as our military heroes.

[@jamesbugbee9026]

Whatever happened 2 'There will always be a USS England'?

[@DerrickMarsham]

​@@jamesbugbee9026ny Se🎉

[@Dean_W-Cdn]

Only a Navy cadet (circa 1976) - this documentary is remarkable and features the leadership and service of all with dignity.

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

Thank you for your service! Appreciate you watching and have a great week :)

[@WardenWolf]

The skill and tenacity of the USS England's crew was just incredible, often hitting enemy submarines with their very first shot and not giving them any time to evade.

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

Very skilled crew indeed. Appreciate you watching and have a great week :)

[@snuffle2269]

John Alexander Williamson, post war becoming a successful Birmingham business executive, passed away on May 2, 2004 at the age of 86. A truly Naval American patriot. RIP

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

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[@tomhath8413]

Much of England's success was due to the weapons officer who was exceptionally skilled at calculating when/where to fire the hedgehogs. I don't remember his name, probably Williamson.

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

Lieutent Commander John A. Williamson!

[@bloodyspartan300]

HedgeHogs, very deadly

[@jerrysponagle3881]

Yeeup..like grenades...it is all in the timing and release.

[@jonrich62]

As Shakespeare wrote, 'unleash the hedgehogs of war.'

[@bloodyspartan300]

@@jonrich62Well they retcon everything, why not this, Well done.

[@boriscook6817]

I had a good friend that was a submariner they patrolled off of Australia during World War Two He said that being depth charged was the most terrifying thing he ever experienced

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

I can’t even begin to imagine! Thanks for watching and have a great week :)

[@boriscook6817]

@@HiddenHistoryYT I worked with him for over 20 years until he retired He was very high strung I wondered if it was because of the stress He said once that they had a “kill zone “ and any ships were fair game All allied ships were not supposed to come in there Gave me chills

[@gryph01]

I can't imagine how bad it would be.

[@darlonripley606]

.....A Japanese friend, yes?

[@boriscook6817]

@@darlonripley606 no The US had a complete fleet of submarines operating in and around Japan My father-in-law was stationed on a submarine tender USS Fulton Sadly our torpedos were faulty until 1943 Sub warfare was extremely harrowing

[@Dave5843-d9m]

The prototype Hedghog mortar launcher was developed in 1941. It went into service but there were no submarine kills until November 1942. It took time to best understand how to use it and to iron out technical problems.

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

Thanks for watching and have a great weekend :)

[@kennethross786]

I know the England, Ramey, & George had good intel, but even a relatively small section of the Pacific is still a LOT of water to "lose" a submarine in. That they were able to sink I-16, then find and sink all 5 subs on the picket line is an amazing achievement. Sometimes, people talk about the big naval actions like the Battle of Midway, the Battle for Leyte Gulf, the Great Marianas Turkey Shoot, but miss the smaller actions like this one that are still impressive and may have indirectly aided the US Naval victory in the Marianas by depriving the Japanese Navy of intel regarding where the US Navy was heading. A little more info about the sloop HMS Starling, it was commanded by Frederic "Johnnie" Walker of the Royal Navy when it scored the 6 kills in less than 3 weeks. Including his time commanding other ships, Walker racked up 20 U-Boat kills. On D-Day, his flotilla also covered part of the approaches to the landing beaches against U-Boats, and not a single one managed to get past them.

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

Thanks for watching and have a great weekend :) I’ll have to make a video on just him as well!

[@giasahmad319]

Good stuff but, don't forget the Battle of Kuantan, sinking of the POW and Repulse.

[@RoyLlowarch]

Excellent piece of Naval history. As a 69 year old Brit WW2 played a major part in school history lessons and coming from Portsmouth England most of our fathers, grandfathers and uncles had served in the Royal Navy. Sadly though apart from the major operations and battles in the Pacific we did not learn that much about British or allied action in the war against Japan. My father fought in Burma and they considered themselves the forgotten army. I could tell you about the war in North Africa, the Atlantic and Europe but very little about the war in what we called the Far East. Thankfully we have wonderful historic videos like this to learn from and to enjoy. Sending regards from Southern England and thank you very much for posting this video

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

Very cool, thanks for sharing! Appreciate you watching and have a great week :)

[@johnhough7738]

My Dad was 14th Army too. Three years on station fighting the Japs, my Mother said that the man she got back after the war wasn't the same man she farewelled. Dad was often very bitter, said that Brit newspapers carried full frontals of Yanks catching pigeons under their helmets in Trafalgar Square whilst just briefly mention to the effect "...intense activity around Kohima..."

[@alanbrown9178]

Not to take anything away from the skill of USS England, it is worth comparing this with the "hunting group" method of three ships working together set up by Capt Walker, RN which, under whose command, sank 17 U-boats.

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

Great point, definitely a team effort! Appreciate you watching and have a great week :)

[@andrewtaylor940]

The England was part of a 3 ship group. The US Navy used the same basic method in the Pacific. It’s just that the England’s Captain and crew proved to be uncannily accurate with the Hedgehog. It’s hard to directly compare the sub kill numbers between Atlantic and Pacific due to the vast open water distances in the Pacific. Plus Germany’s larger U-Boat fleet being a bit more predictable as they were seeking to prey on the convoy lanes.

[@g8ymw]

Further to your post, Alan. I watched a vid earlier today about Captain "Johnnie" Walker RN. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qXPFqKamjdSGb9U

[@arakheno4051]

@@andrewtaylor940 Heh, if you can find it, read the biography of Johnny Walker and HMS Starling, once a ship in his group's ASW gear was knocked out and he from the bridge of Starling scored a hit with the other ships hedgehog (told them the line to follow and when to fire) .. the man was supernatural ASW captain.

[@olliefoxx7165]

Thanks for mentioning Capt Walker. I haven't heard of his group or the subject of this video. It's fascinating history I'm going to look into further.

[@markdoty1213]

Good history haven't heard of these ships but thanks for your service the country owes you a great deal.

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

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[@aurthurodonnell6707]

from a Son of a Father who served aboard Destroyers in the pacific 1942 for the duration + 6 months of WWII ,a heart felt thank you for sharing this piece of History .. out ...

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

Thank you to him for his service, he is a hero! Appreciate you watching and have a great weekend :)

[@stevek8829]

Good you said, "for the duration." That's a phrase from then that many don't think of now. That's what our dad's were in for...no fixed date of discharge.

[@wildcolonialman]

Fabulous history, fine telling, and fascinating.

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

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[@JohnRodriguesPhotographer]

Thank you for relaying the history of each ships name!🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

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[@johnhough7738]

Their wartime service is impressive; I'm also very impressed with this video, especially the editing and narration.

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

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[@Roy-l7v]

After watching many of these videos fm other sources, yours has to be part a very few that is this good. you have my subscribing.. this is really great that you include the enemy stats for not, we would never know how great the Japanese sub fleet was.

[@KosherPlug]

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[@HiddenHistoryYT]

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[@joeretired4552]

Great - lots of Naval action never brought to view before. Thanks

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

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[@larryking2697]

"ALL GAVE SOME......SOME GAVE ALL" Never forget those who died for your FREEDOM...... God Bless America

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

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[@davidoltmans2725]

The Brits were the best at the adaptation on submarine detection and multi ship engagements of the German U boats. They were innovative and tenatious. The US came late the dance but the combined strength of both navies all but destroyed the U boat offensives in the North Atlantic during Black May .

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

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[@monza1002000]

The Candian navy had a huge impact in the Atlantic, providing 50% of convoy cover for the first 2 years at least

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

@@monza1002000 always are under appreciated IMO!

[@williamcoates679]

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[@kenneth9874]

It wasn't the US's dance until later...

[@1936Studebaker]

From 31 May to 8 June 1942, Imperial Japanese Navy submarines made a series of attacks on the Australian cities of Sydney and Newcastle. On the night of the attack, three major vessels were present in Sydney Harbour; the heavy cruisers USS Chicago and HMAS Canberra, and the light cruiser HMAS Adelaide.  Other warships in the harbour included: destroyer tender USS Dobbin, auxiliary minelayer HMAS Bungaree, corvettes HMAS Whyalla, HMAS Geelong, and HMIS Bombay, armed merchant cruisers HMS Kanimbla and HMAS Westralia, and Dutch submarine K-IX.

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

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[@x1tekja]

The hedgehog had less psychological damage because there was significantly less chance one would live to tell the tale.

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

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[@aureliodinaguit1645]

Hedgehog terrifying weapon slim chance to survive

[@randyminnick5031]

An excellent history lesson! Thank you!

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

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[@lennyste]

Excellent video, very informative

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[@davidc6510]

Very interesting history lesson that was presented well. Thanks for sharing.

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[@manospetridis1935]

I was stationed aboard the USS England DLG-22 in '73. I thought it was one of the few ships the navy had that could fight its way out of a wet paper bag. On our way to San Diego from the Panama Canal, we crammed ourselves into Accapulco's harbor, because we were BIG! the captain rented a jeep and took off to one of the local hotels, definitley a party animal. when we pulled in to San Diego and began disembarking, the hippies were waiting for us at the cat walk that went aross the main street, and tried to get us to go AWOL!! I often wonder if those same doped up confused and spolied hippies felt the same way about commuists after the killing fields committed by another group of their beloved brethren, the Khmer Rouge, who wiped out almost one fourth of all Cambodians.

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

Thank you for your service and for sharing this interesting info! Appreciate you watching and have a great week :)

[@jamesk0ua]

Hippies now and then never think about anything. The key word is "think" that is the one thing they never do.

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[@kevinstreeter6943]

I was on it in 1980. By then it had been designated CG-22.

[@andrewdewit4711]

Fascinating info on anti-sub weapons systems.

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

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[@johnharris2337]

The analysis of the German U boat tactics and destroyer counter measures were given to the US navy, the British developed the forward firing Hedgehog, side throwing and stern drop depth charges, through statistical analysis they determined both the pattern, depth, speed of the attacking hunter killer destroyer, as well as patterns of search, position stations and response to set circumstances, the British learned the hard way. It’s important to recognize the importance of these contributions to the success of American anti submarine warfare, without it the results would have been very different. I get tired of WW2 historians giving the impression that they won WW2 without recognition of the technology, tactics, and a whole heap of lessons in warfare given to them by their allies

[@Steve101747]

Thank you, thank you, thank you for doing your own narration and not depending on AI. Good job, and easy to listen to.

[@Brock_Landers]

That was an awesome story. Thank you for sharing it with us!

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

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[@greggiles7309]

In New Zealand in the 1980's this is my Buff n Studly claim, and Basic training pictures, is this a theme?

[@michaelvalenzuela2528]

Very Informative. WOW!!! Thanks for posting.

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

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[@forestturnings5732]

Very well presented. Very well researched. Do more.

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

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[@poowg2657]

Talk about a submarine disassembly line. Great info in a great video, thanks much.

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

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[@williamkoppos7039]

THAT was a really good show. Thanks HH.

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

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[@ronaldwatson1951]

Great story the USS England's crew were outstanding!! The Japanese were abit to arrogant and their intelligence operations did'nt compare to Americans. Don't know much about Japanese subs but they to were at a disadvantage. Island hoping did more damage than I thought. Logistical pressure for sure.

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

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[@kevinstreeter6943]

I had to click on this because my ship, CG-22, was named after this one. Everyone in the crew knew about this. Our insignia had 6 stars to represent the 6 subs it sunk.

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

That is awesome, I didn’t even realize that!

[@aneubeck4053]

High quality content

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

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[@richardcline1337]

Sadly, like the USS Enterprise, a ship that gave so much wound up being cut up for razor blades.

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

Such a disgrace that the Big E wasn’t saved. Thanks for watching and have a great week :)

[@jtjames79]

Now I want those razor blades.

[@richardcline1337]

@@jtjames79,it's just a term dating back to the 50's era. Now it would be cut up to make worthless Toyota parts.

[@jtjames79]

@@richardcline1337 Now I want Toyoda parts.

[@DUIRduje]

As any older boat owner knows, it is cheaper to buy a boat than to own one.

[@HangnJudge]

Excellent production.

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

Greatly appreciate it! Thanks for watching and have a fantastic week :)

[@bobm5500]

It is a wonder that they haven't made a movie about this little -big ship.

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

Completely agree! Appreciate you watching and have a great week :)

[@chrislong3938]

There are a bunch of ships that should have movies made about them... - HMS Glowworm - USS Johnston and USS Samuel B. Roberts come to mind

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

@@chrislong3938 Completely agree!

[@chrislong3938]

@@HiddenHistoryYT Have you seen the Drachinifel video on the Battle Off Samar? The Title is, Odds? What are those? He does a fantastic job of describing all of the intricacies of all the ships involved along with other heroics by pilots from the escort carriers! In fact, his description could be a movie just as it is! His title would be a great name for the movie as well! I read the novelized version of the Glowworm's battle as a child and it was gripping to this 13-year-old!

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

@@chrislong3938 I will check that out, thanks for the suggestion!

[@redcossack245]

Very well done video. Thanks.

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

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[@abatesnz]

"There'll always be an England" was a famous Vera Lynn patriotic song in Britain during the war. That might be the reason for that line, "There'll always be an England in the United States Navy" - not a prediction per se.

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

Very interesting! Thanks for watching and have a great week :)

[@clarencehopkins7832]

Excellent stuff bro

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

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[@robbierobinson8819]

Great episode on the history of the US Navy. Come one guys, keep Admiral King's promise!

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

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[@markmaki4460]

I have always thought it so fitting that she happened to be named for England (okay, i know she was really named for a person named England).

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

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[@stevemccoy8138]

I knew a guy that was on the DE 33 USS TISDALE. He left Mare island in 1942 bound for Pacific Theater, returning after the War 1945, he said that the ship was then worn out. RIP BOB ASHBURN.

[@hughsmith7668]

You might want to check out the USS Biscayne. She was a seaplane tender that was used in both theaters.

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

I will have to check that out, thanks! Appreciate you watching and have a great week :)

[@hughsmith7668]

@@HiddenHistoryYT I ran across a book called Letters From Home by Stanley J. Morrison, that was interesting and horrifying at the same time. The ship had a shallow draft and it was found to be ideal for getting the Generals and Admirals in danger close to direct the amphibious landings with binoculars. The Flag offices that had been on this ship read like a How's How from WW2 in the Mediterranean. It became the flag ship for just about all the D-Days in the Med. Because this ship was so close the landing craft would bring the wounded to this ship from the beach. The Decks would be covered with blood. Once Med was secure the ship was sent quickly back to the states to make it more accommodating for the large number of extra staff that came with these Flag officers, then sent to the Pacific. It was fascinating to lean after all it went through at close quarters fighting a determined enemy, it didn't get a scratch. Only a small chunk of a merchant ship that landed on it's deck after it had blown up.

[@hughsmith7668]

@@HiddenHistoryYT I'm looking forward to how you will do this.

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

@@hughsmith7668 wow, that is incredible. Always so fascinating to me how many things occur during war that you would never even think to consider and you wouldn’t know about unless you dig in like you have

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

@@hughsmith7668 I will try to do it next week! Currently working on a 2 part Sink the Bismarck video!

[@lawsonj39]

The historiographic narrative technique here reminds me of Robert Caro's books: a thorough exploration of the background of all elements of the story. The explanation of the hedgehog anti-submarine weapon in comparison to standard depth-charges is especially interesting.

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

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[@bobrussell3602]

Very interesting video. Well narrated.

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

Greatly appreciate it Bill! Thanks for watching and have a fantastic week :)

[@bobrussell3602]

It's a pleasure to praise top notch videos. Greetings from Britain. BOB !

[@jimgraham6722]

Thankyou, great doco.

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

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[@velosapien]

As an English speaker, I am delighted that an American is finally incorporating the number ZERO into the narration however I noticed you get mixed up with the time stamps. Thanks for this video, much appreciated

[@indyawichofficial1346]

Everything changed when Tom Hanks got drafted, after leaving his oyster business to become navy destroyer commander. One should not forget that Tom's killing spree, clearing up whole Atlantic singlehandedly, made Bermuda Triangle to file an official protest note in the UN, for loosing monopoly in ship scrap business.

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

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[@billmarsano3404]

Important to note that England and all others of her kind were not destroyers (DDs) but destroyer escorts (DEs). As such they were to DDs like the splendid Fletcher-class ships as the escort carriers (CVEs) were to the mighty Essex-class queens (CVs). In short, they were dime-store versions of the 'real McCoy,' and that was expressed in one of their nicknames: Woolworth carriers. But they were feisty little ship that could punch above their weight, as England proved vs subs and the Samuel Roberts proved off Samar. The USN took the ahead-firing idea of the hedgehog a step further in developing its own such weapon, but I've forgotten the name and don't whether it ever saw combat. It used smaller munitions to elimination of most of the hedgeog's limitations. It fired what were essentially rocket-propelled, which meant it was smaller, lighter and had far less recoil impact than the hedgehog's, which was punishing. That enabled mounting on much smaller vessels for inshore patrols and coastal-defense tasks.

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

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[@DaveWoods-ku5em]

We owe so much to so few, the men of the royal navy and the commercial navvies and other sailors of ww2 where gallant fighting men fighting for freedom

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

Completely agree! Thanks for watching and have a great week :)

[@Knuck_Knucks]

Wow. Quite the sub slayer.

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

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[@muckeyduck3472]

Just so you know, Truk is pronounced like Truck. That is how I heard it from everyone I knew that served in WWII including my father that was at Guadalcanal, Tulagi Gavutu-Tanambogo, and Florida Island.

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

Will note for future videos, appreciate the feedback/info! Thanks for watching and have a great rest of your week :)

[@christopherwhite1648]

The people of the atoll pronounce it Chuk - like Juke box.

[@charlesseymour1482]

my father was there early in the pacific arena

[@dougscott8161]

Here is an interesting (At least for me) tidbit: I am watching this at about 12:45 AM on 23 May, 2023, Today is my 79th birthday, so the IJN Submarine RO 104 was sunk 79 years ago, within a few hours of my birth. Was this an unintentional celebration of my birth by the Japanese Navy? It could be a fun idea, I just thought it would be kinda neat👍👎🤮😂💩

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

Incredible and happy birthday! Appreciate you watching and have a great week :)

[@darlonripley606]

Yes. Your life, brought to you by 124 Japanese sailors giving their lives for you to be....

[@vanessajazp6341]

Would love to have seen THIS destroyer's story in the film "Greyhound"

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

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[@jerry2357]

I'm pretty sure that the photo of a hedgehog at 0:20 is taken on a Royal Navy ship (the cap badges look like RN cap badges, not USN). EDIT: the clip of a hedgehog in operation from about 7:00 is also taken on a RN ship (the helmets and duffle coats are distinctively RN).

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

Ya I unfortunately couldn’t find any material of them in action with the US Navy, just with the Royal Navy. Great spot though! Appreciate you watching and have a fantastic weekend :)

[@kenneth9874]

Awww

[@philgiglio7922]

"A ship takes 3 years to build, a tradition can take a century" I have No doubt that there will be another England flying a US ensign

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

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[@thomaszaccone3960]

🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@jonrich62]

That ship certainly paid for itself in those few days.

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

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[@jimwilliams4532]

It's an absolute sin that this ship was scrapped! If I were the Secretary of the Navy that ship would never be decommissioned and would be primarily used for morale, recruiting, and public relations. None before and none sense! No one saw the historic significance of this vessel? The US military senior command never fail to screw up a good thing.

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

I agree! Thanks for watching and have a great week :)

[@dennisfahlstrom2515]

@@HiddenHistoryYTI think that kind of decision is made by politicians and bean counters. Not sailors.

[@darlonripley606]

Ah...but it's the men, not the ship...always the men....wooden ships, iron men; steel ships, steel men.

[@dr.a.995]

I started to write about the sore lack of respect we -the inheritors of all the bravery shown by our Navy- seem to hold for the greatest tool used to earn that respect, the fighting ship. Every school district within a day’s ride of one of the honored vessels should ensure no 3rd grade class misses a true history lesson by getting on board the ships and getting a sense for what they did for us. The $$ is there, the will and foresight is not. No ship should be scrapped without a rigorous checkoff procedure. The England is a clear example: A gun station, a single torpedo, a cabin, the Hedgehog launchers, etc. couldhave been salvaged with no injury to the national debt! Many memories deserve to be preserved. American blood paid for all associated expenses.

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

@@dr.a.995 too busy teaching the kids about being ***

[@wakspaips5206]

Buin, Bougainville, is in Papua New Guinea, not Solomon Island as mentiined here.

[@garyallsebrook3493]

What a shame it wasn't preserved as a museum ship!

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

I agree! Thanks for watching and have a great weekend :)

[@thomaszaccone3960]

Fitting name for a heroic ship

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

Thanks for watching and have a great weekend :)

[@thomassnapp1341]

The Japanese always regarded each big sea battle as the "decisive" battle. But they were only decisive for the USA.

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

Extremely accurate! Thanks for watching and have a great week :)

[@vahtikoira2125]

"Decisive Battle" was also the name (and intent) given to the Japanese naval doctrine for their all or nothing surface battle plans.

[@darlonripley606]

Well...as in cards,,,,,go big or stay home.

[@karlheinzvonkroemann2217]

Read "The Rising Sun" by John Toland. It's a mid 60's book that is two volumes but won the Pulitzer Prize. It covers all of this and much more.

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

I’ll have to check that out! Thanks for watching and have a great weekend :)

[@kenneth9874]

I've read it twice, the whole Japanese command structure including political was a bit mad

[@RemusKingOfRome]

Why didn't subs fire circulating , surface running torps before diving, to prevent destroyers moving over the subs position ? would make it very dangerous for surface ships to move near the diving sub.

[@chloehennessey6813]

Because if there is a problem with diving they just sunk themselves.

[@RemusKingOfRome]

@@chloehennessey6813 You could fire torps at 30 feet , to run at 10 feet, without any risk of hitting the sub. I suspect the flaw was the lack of endurance, you would need time for the sub to dive and slip away. Only the Japanese Long Lance had such endurance.

[@donaldreynolds6857]

The Oklahoma was raised and refloated in 1944. The remains of the crew were removed at that time.

[@gunnargundersen3787]

The Hedgehog was an epic weapon. Morale be damned, it was as you correctly point out a degree of magnitude way more effective than depth charges. I believe both the Russians and Swedish have modern variants if it - albeit not using the spigot mortar method of firing.

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

Great info! Thanks for watching and have a fantastic week :)

[@bloodyspartan300]

Usually the Death Sentence.

[@manospetridis1935]

I believe that It was effective because the Japanese had not perfected their sonar systems and had to come in close for an attack. Once they were that close,, the hedgehog was very effective. I was aboard one of a few destroyers in '68 that still had a Hedgehog launcher. when they were fired the charges sounded like small bombs. the deck underneath the launcher banged and vibrated like it was going to rip itself to pieces. Keep in mind that destroyers weren't called tin cans for nothing. As a sonarman I always thought that a sub could easily hear the noise thru the vibrating ship's structure and could zero in with torpedoes.

[@gunnargundersen3787]

@@manospetridis1935 Interesting history. It's forebear was the Blacker Bombard named after a British home guard Lt Col who invented it. Designed as a spigot AT it had an effective range of 100 (ish) yards and so like the PIAT required brass cojones and the use of camouflage to be effective. That said when it was designed the German tanks it was supposed to oppose were not the fearsome beasts of Panthers and Tigers that started hitting the battlefield in 42 so it might have been effective enough, and like the other stop gap (the STEN) it certainly gave bang for the buck.

[@deltaraven]

producer thinks "hmmm this would make a great movie " heavy tom hanks breaths on the producers neck sends shivers down his spine .

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

Haha Thanks for watching and have a great week :)

[@PortmanRd]

"England expects that every man shall do his duty." Vice Admiral Horatio Nelson.

[@peterrebelwithoutamenopaus6962]

I read that unlike US submarines and even British ones in the Pacific, that Japanese submarines didnt have air conditioning as it wasnt considered 'manly' by the Japanese military. But in the tropics especially it was vital, as men sweating constantly, especially underwater, produces prickly heat which is very debilitating, not just a minor inconvenience. It was given as a factor, if not a major factor, why Japanese subs weren't as efficient as US ones. Is this true?

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

I would guess Japanese subs were less luxurious than Americans for sure. Thanks for watching and have a great weekend :)

[@peterrebelwithoutamenopaus6962]

@HiddenHistoryYT Thanks for your reply. I read that air-conditioning in subs in the tropics especially wasn't looked on as a luxury. It was deemed absolutely essential to prevent prickly heat and other problems. It wasn't just overindulgent crew comfort.

[@kenneth9874]

One of the main factors was that japanese subs tended to restrict themselves to combat vessels

[@petergaskin1811]

@@peterrebelwithoutamenopaus6962 RN submarines anywhere didn't have A/C either. That's why there weren't that many and you don't hear much about them in the WW2 Pacific theatre.

[@ericcriteser4001]

My understanding was the AC was to keep the tech dry. TDC, radar, radio, etc.

[@maemorri]

It's ironic that Japanese considered their island bases as "unsinkable carriers". Ultimately their garrisons could be isolated and bypassed, or surrounded, degraded and captured. Viewed from a loss perspective, the inability to reposition islands and the loss of their garrisons and equipment at relatively low cost, might offset the advantage of not being sunk in battle.

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

Very true! Appreciate you watching and have a great weekend :)

[@MengLacap]

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[@TrueNeutralEvGenius]

Brilliant work, very well done, salute.

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

Greatly appreciate it! Have a great week :)

[@julioaranton461]

"didn't heed Admiral Yamamoto..."

[@JoeDiGiovanniIV]

My papa was the gunnery captain of the 3" guns aboard this ship. When it was struck by a kamikaze, he was injured and spent the rest of his life with some of that shrapnel lodged forever within his body to dangerous for removal. R.i.p. John Bowness

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

Thank you to him for his service, a true American hero! Appreciate you watching and have a great week :)

[@standingbear6108]

Hu.. Learned something new. Did not know about how the Japanese ignored Russian shipping.

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

Appreciate you watching and have a great rest of your week :)

[@invader440]

England Hall on Fleet Anti Submarine Warfare Training Center Pacific was named in honor of this ship.

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

Very cool! Thanks for watching and have a great weekend :)

[@alanward4506]

Google Captain Johnny Walker RN for another true naval hero

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

Will do, thanks for the suggestion! Appreciate you watching and have a great weekend :)

[@VIDEOVISTAVIEW2020]

Make also a video about the most devastating submarine attack on surface ship in one spread

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

It is on my list to do! Appreciate you watching and have a great week :)

[@davidkimmel4216]

Thanks

[@tonysaint6749]

God bless you all from Australia with love and gratitude ❤️🕊️🙏🙏🦘😊

[@rollandchapin5308]

Damn good job

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

Appreciate you watching and have a great weekend :)

[@dannysdailys]

Are you sure about the Catalina flying boat? I'm not aware that they were armed. I saw some real one's and they didn't have any emplacements that I could see.

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

“Powered by two Pratt & Whitney R-1830-58 engines of 825 horsepower each, the aircraft, with a crew of seven to ten, was armed with three 0.30-in. machine guns, and could carry 2,000 lb. of bombs. Designated the XP3Y-1, the aircraft made its first flight on 15 March 1935.”

[@gunnargundersen3787]

Probably Civilianised versions. There were two .50's in each of the blister domes on the side and another one in a turret on the front. I believe that they also were cases of extra machine guns Jerry rigged in the fuselage to suppress U-Boat surface crews who for a brief period of time were told as part of their SOP's to stand and fight against aircraft.

[@stevedobson7837]

You have an amazing lifestyle Liz. Well done haha a little jealous. ❤

[@docbailey3265]

They may be tin cans but I think they are beautiful.

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

Ya I’ve really come around on the look of destroyers. Finally started to appreciate them!

[@sensibledriver933]

Hedgehog ammunition must have been a fraction of depth charges.

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

Thanks for watching and have a great week :)

[@gib59er56]

Great doc., telling me a story about a ship I have never heard of until today. I really have begun to get into WWII history at an older age than normal, I think. I am 55 and I have been a Civil War and Vietnam student, buff. I have family in almost every war in America. The story here is pretty wild, a poor way to describe it I know. My only problem is the name of the ship. My bloodline is Norse and Scots/Irish, that equals Viking. So English is a word I don`t care for. And I am very clearly joking. Awesome story HH and thank you for the post.

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

Funny enough ive actually been trying to learn more about the Civil War recently! Vietnam has always fascinated me as well, love Ken Burns Vietnam series. Thanks for watching and have a great weekend :)

[@gib59er56]

@@HiddenHistoryYT You too my friend. Ken Burns series on the Civil War is masterful! I have the whole series on DVD`s and I remember when it aired on PBS. I still pop a disc in there and watch it from time to time. The narrators are world class and the photo`s by Brady and others are fantastic, but all so real. Shelby Foote is all over the place in the series. I can listen to that man speak all day long. I just wish he was a Union man. His heroes from that war are Lincoln, Nathan Bedford Forrest and Lee. Forrest founded the KKK. But Foote is talking about him as a brilliant Cavalry tactician the "Wizard of the Saddle" ,but that is all. I have his incredible three book masterpiece, a very in depth look at the War and he has the actions and decisions down to the minute in detail. I am not going to get the books down off the shelf to count every page, but all three books are three inches deep. He spent years researching and writing them. It is not easy reading. It is like studying . It is the gold standard of Civil War history and I recommend it man.

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

@@gib59er56 I basically got the PBS channel on Prime Video just to be able to watch his documentaries haha

[@U.S.S.Batfish-310]

and Don't forget the U.S.S. Batfish the balao class fleet submarine that sank 3 enemy submarines in 76 hours... earning the title "The submarine killing Submarine of WW-2" See her in person at the Muskogee War Memorial Museum in Muskogee Oklahoma

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

Thanks for reminding me that I need to get a video made on that! Appreciate you watching and have a great week :)

[@motor2of7]

I was amazed when I learned that a destroyer escort has an open bridge. Seems incredible for a ship of this size,in the open ocean.

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

Thanks for watching and have a great weekend :)

[@rickjesionowski]

Taken from the British most of their ships including cruisers and battleships had open bridges.

[@vahtikoira2125]

Then again, a Destroyer Escort was one of the smallest ships in the Bluewater navy in WW2.

[@anthonywilson4873]

You need to see all threats with your eyes and binoculars including aircraft. Windows get fouled up and windows in roof not practical. Put on the right gear and have great vision. Now it’s all radar and magnifying vision systems.

[@anthonywilson4873]

I believe the kill ratio with traditional depth charges roughly 60 attacks to 1 kill. With hedgehog weapon 6 attacks to 1 kill. Sonar/ASDIC you could see the target, rather than have a blind zone underneath you you positioned the ship so the sub was ahead of you. You then tossed the Spigot Mortar bombs ahead and even if the sub changed depth it got hit. You could keep eyes on and adjust. The Hunters became the hunted as the war progressed the Hedgehog made a quantum leap in the hunting. The Cavity Magnetron meant that you could see a sub with radar with just the conning tower above the water. See it chase it down kill it. So ASDIC/Sonar underwater, radar above the water and hedgehog to go in and get the kill. Then you have a skilled operator and crew manning the ship to turn all of that into one weapon using a hunting technique developed earlier in the war Now that is team work. Where was Radar ASDIC/Sonar Radar and Hedgehog and hunting tactics developed? Because they basically took away the U Boat threat by wiping them out The Germans right at the end of the war where developing subs coated with a rubber layer to prevent the bounce back of the Ping from the ASDIC / sonar weapon.

[@alexm20j]

I appreciate your work researching this piece of history. As you work on projects in the future, lookup the pronunciation of place names. In this video Truk was mispronounced as was Eniwetok.

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

Appreciate the feedback, interestingly I’ve had people say Truk was pronounced correctly so not sure what to believe 😂 Thanks for watching and have a great week :)

[@kpdubbs7117]

I highly recommend that people look deeper into the actions of Ens. John England aboard the Oklahoma. It is a very compelling story.

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

I may have to do a video just on that! Thanks for watching and have a great weekend :)

[@derekpierkowski7641]

Takin'out by a water ski! Fates got a wicked sense of humor.