The Devs Blocked Me From Buying the Cars I Need to Deliver Products! (Railroads Online)

In this episode we attempt to buy some new cars to deliver better products. Unfortunately the devs had something else in mind...
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About Railroads Online!
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[@johnmikolainis7022]

T.R.A.S.H might be a good name, Transport Railway Across Scenic Highlands. Idk other words might work too.

[@kendallguier1378]

This one

[@cappyantonio1367]

This train is TRASH bruh! kAN:Sorry what*shotgun reload* Me:HEY x11*Glock reload* DONT MAKE ME DO THIS I CA- kAN:Tell me WHY is it trash?! Me:Look at the comments on your recent video TRUST ME PLEASE PLEASE!!! 0:23

[@cappyantonio1367]

This train is TRASH bruh! kAN:Sorry what*shotgun reload* Me:HEY x11*Glock reload* DONT MAKE ME DO THIS I CA- kAN:Tell me WHY is it trash?! Me:Look at the comments on your recent video TRUST ME PLEASE PLEASE!!!

[@wildwyatxbox]

@@cappyantonio1367 Found the 10yr old

[@davidphillips5677]

or B.A.R.W.D barf already we're derailing

[@MothflavoredJam]

What purpose does a leveling system in a game like this even serve besides wasting the players time, the money is already enough a pain, why the heck would they add exp.

[@bow-tiedengineer4453]

It's to try and encourage you to get older equipment at first, and then get the newer stuff later on. But I think they should have made sure that you could carry every product in something that's tier 1. Add gold ore to the small open wagons, and then add a small cattle car and a small post car for the processed gold.

[@grit9938]

@@bow-tiedengineer4453 I don't like using the small cars and am a little aggravated that I now don't have a choice, especially since not everything even has a tier 1 car.

[@nightwolves9559]

Agreed

[@bow-tiedengineer4453]

@@grit9938 If I remember right, the big logging flat is still tier 1, and all the other stuff always needed levels as far as I remember, so you can still start by buying a big logging flat and go from there if you don't like the small stuff. Though, it would be nice if they added a difficulty option on world creation to turn XP off on world creation for players like you who want a more sandboxy experience.

[@prestonhal]

The game definitely encourages you to fill up the original industries (sawmill, iron mine, smelter, etc.) before you move on to cattle and gold. By the time I dumped 1000 iron at the smelter I was already at tier 6

[@LiamBond-iw4do]

Watch him realize that he needs metal pipes for the meat packing plant

[@Emerald_Night]

XP is based off the cargos themselves; the larger cars don't give any sort of bonus other than the fact that they can carry more of a specific type of cargo. you'll get 4x as much XP from the larger bulkhead flat simply because it carries 4x the cargo of the gregg bulkhead flat. The trade off is that they are typically heavier on a per-cargo basis.

[@GP30_Foamer]

Relatable. I’ve been trying for a month to get the new Class 125. I’ve got enough to buy three of them but I need level 9 to get one.

[@GP30_Foamer]

Update: I FINALLY DID IT! And you bet I got three of them.

[@distracted...]

the levelling system is so bad in rr, not only do you have to grind a ton if you want to afford anything, but you have to waste so much time just trying to get obscene quantities of xp to level up. its not a fun game mechanic, and it sure isnt realistic, so it has no reason to exist

[@johnnysgaragecarsgaming6841]

Just go to Railroad studio and up your XP level to get the level you need.😅

[@distracted...]

@@johnnysgaragecarsgaming6841 unfortunately that is the most fun way to play the game. would be nice if you didn't have to do that to have a good gameplay experience

[@kaylinosprey3306]

No one accused Keume of being a good game dev.

[@LunaMeadows56]

@@kaylinosprey3306 He's doing a great job. He made a change people didn't like, oh well. That doesn't mean hes a bad game dev.

[@delphicdescant]

@@LunaMeadows56 Lol what? "This guy making a product that must appeal to an audience to be successful instead made the product not appeal to his audience." Yes, that does mean something.

[@TheYvian]

Love watching you play RRO because your frustrations are the exact same as mine. Here's to hoping they will open up for more options on how to play the game, especially since the team behind RROx stopped developing it which shut down exactly the kind of gameplay you're asking for here.

[@quarreneverett4767]

Regardless if you want to put it on easy which is a conversion rquirement factor id you want to run less for output. Hit G and click industries. There ya go problems solved. If u want no effort money and level put logging cord wood across from selling depot but car between them hit crane and spam unload and it will non stop load and sell You are welcome issue addressed

[@nikolasdecker298]

Was starting to get worried you were quitting railroads online again. Love the videos and the way you edit/play. They are a highlight of my week!

[@RedPandaYosh]

H.U.M.P.E.R Hauls Under Minimal Power Economy Rail.

[@0megaming]

Invite Kosmo to your world to run a second train or run the train, while you expand the tracks. You guys always make good videos together, no matter which game ^^

[@SeaEngineering]

What you need is a team to be at each industry, setting up for constant trips of loading

[@Skirakzalus]

You're level 1 because non of the products you delivered pays well nor gives good xp. Logging camp and sawmill still sadly is the obnly really viable route. Also each additional tier doubles up the experience requirement, so it will take a very long time until you can buy one of those cattle cars.

[@Goosie___]

You have to have the matching tier number as the locomotive, the box car you need is a tier 5 so your locomotive needs to be 5 or higher as well

[@Cr4sHOv3rRiD3]

For connecting logging camp it is very easy, just use the Y at the farm going right and follow the cliff until you reach it, it will probably require you to build like between 2%-4%. It is not a big deal when going empty uphill and with 6 big log cars I have to use like 50% brake almost all the way to the sawmill at 3% average. Then I have changed my rout for sawmill and water well to go thru Oil factory like long way at 1.5% average and it is just for log runs to feed the sawmill camp, also I am using the route for water as well. For faster XP, big cars definitely are better My way for XP grind is like Feed the industry until reaches 100% on both Output and Input sides then switch to another industry, rinse and repeat. If can't progress, just grind the logs or whatever you decide to sell products at the depo. Slightly better XP is when you feed the industry with input stuff and chains ofc. But selling it to the depo is little bit lower but doable. Mostly depends how you wanna play the game, but definitely you have to grind all the low tier industries until you max their Ins and Outs before progressing to the next one. I think I have make an comment about LvL 5 and cattle car few episodes back as well as progression but anyway Keep up great content kAN as always :D

[@Wack-o]

Here's a good name: The K.A.N.T. (Kenosha and Northern Transport.) The slogan would be something like "We KANT deliver!"

[@A.a.s.t.o.r.the.radio.demon.]

Is it just me or is it when kan Uploads a railroad online video it makes my day

[@nikolasdecker298]

Same, I enjoy he plays relatively realistically to how a traditional railroad would operate

[@user-dz7rs3cm4m]

That’s the only stuff I watch on his channel.

[@boomeraus0073]

@ 5:57 Someone might of already has said this but.... We used to get EXP from cropping down tress! we do not have that anymore, only way to level in this game now is to drop off goods so it's more of a EXP grind now then it used to be. The Dev's wanted us to use the 4 wheel car's more longer making them more usefully for longer.

[@Skirakzalus]

Bought cars spawning somewhere near you is sadly an intended change, but I'd much prefer if they kept it to the purchase track area and found a way to make that moveable so people get to put it where they want and lay their own track for it. It doesn't make any sense for a farm or ranch to rely on trains for their water supply compared to rain and having the own wells. Also the early game industries are justvery tough to deal with on this map. Height differences like this is something you'd only encounter with the iron mine on the other two maps and at that point you should have a better engine anyways. Pulling goods out of that basin should be for later in the game.

[@frankyanish4833]

I hope they change the flat cars so that the different variations of the same frame become the same car and you can just buy staves or end caps that you can install on whichever car you want

[@liamhenderson7640]

Missed your railroad videos. Nice to see more of them again kan 👍

[@robgamer3073]

My vote is for Certified Rail Aurora Shipping and Handling aka C.R.A.S.H.

[@thedrunkshinobi]

On my save I have two lines going to the lumber yard. One from the freight depot. The other is goes south from the sawmill up the hill to the east side of the logging camp. The 2nd one was really nice to just go straight back and forth for dumping logs.

[@GeekOfAllThings]

I wonder if they could add signals to the trains and use the telegraph offices for simulated switch operators (the people that handled the switching back before automated switches were available). As long as a telegraph office is close enough, that switch could be controlled. One possible issue would be when you have two switches one right after the other that need to be in opposite directions. Or they could add route planning to the telegraph offices. Communication between offices would let switch operators know what to do. I imagine those are somewhat how switches were controlled back then. I'm probably wrong about some of it, but Hyce would probably know how it used to work.

[@johnnysgaragecarsgaming6841]

I'm really excited for the next updates. it has the mini map where you can see all of your locos, Rolling stock, track, switches, and you will be able to set the switches from the map

[@train0996]

Connect to the logging camp and the sawmill, get the larger log cars, and start transporting logs to the sawmill

[@ewancoppens3193]

Yo kAN, thanks for every video you upload. Keep it up 😉

[@niiinaa]

I've run into the tier issue recently too, though it wasn't at tier 1. I wanted to buy the ig new 2-8-2 but it's Tier 9 (!!) which is just unreasonably hard to get to. I've played this map to the point where I've actually delivered some gold ingots and I'm still only tier 7, just about to reach 8. I won't spoil hoe much money the later products in the gold line give but I will say tha I won't have any trouble affording the engine once I reach tier 9...

[@Isador]

You can change in the options, cars spawning near you or at the start

[@Ronald.Golleher]

12:40 isn't that basically what Hyce said that this really had for brakes? Early enough it wouldn't have really had air brakes for the train, so you'd use a small amount of reverse on the Johnson bar along with car brakes. Plus, you'd cycle brake (on and slow way down, off to cool and build speed, on again, etc.) rather than have a small amount of brake on the whole time.

[@mmorris2830]

I heard about another train game in the works. I think that it was called something like Hearts of Steam? Apparently the devs got fed up with the leadership ChOads where they were at and started their own project. You might want to keep an eye on it

[@gentlegiantcoop5318]

So just a thought the saw mill line and the lumber lines connected but separate from the water line. And if you do use the down part of the water line to get to the saw mill have to part on the top of the hill because if your going down too fast it will be hard to do a switch at the end of it.

[@andrewp6387]

Whenever things start going smoothly, you know something will impede progress

[@jantimmerby]

I'm still working on the Lake Valley map. Finished laying all tracks. Currently only running the small wagons as I never got to try them on the first map. So now I want to complete the first industrial line (oil) with small wagons before I switch to the big ones. The small carts seem more unstable than the big ones in my opinion. They start jumping on the rails if the speed gets too high. I've never seen the big wagons do that. I haven't had problems with level and I think it's because I started with the first industry line (oil). It gives a better financial return and I think also xp. In addition, coal must be used for the meatpacking plant. I hope you return to the Lake Valley map at some point. That map offers some really good opportunities to lay some really nice tracks. I have connected all the industries on that map with max 1.5% track. This also applies to a direct line between the two farms and the line between the iron mine and the smelter. I currently have the 10 weakest locomotives in the game, but can still come up with 30 small wagons of cordwood for the smelter and keep 16-17 mph.

[@The_Ramblers.]

Great job Kan

[@jonathanbair523]

I went back to the first video of this set. Looks like you noticed the side dump car, but did not notice it was level 3. Just looked at the cost only.

[@rapidraposa7327]

Aside the new "quirks" It looks like RR is going in an overall promising direction, compared to the uncertainty it felt 2 years ago.

[@iSharkJaw]

hi kan! loving the RC content keep it up!❤

[@Anonymus-ih7yb]

Welp. Time to figure out if there is a file that can be edited. I want to have FUN in a game not waste hours of my life grinding in a game with literally no actual incentive to grind besides the limitations the devs pulled out of their a**

[@lordraven1991]

It was never a problem in other saves because you weren't using toy train cars to haul goods around, and you were using more cars. I patented the ultimate money/xp train on a friends save by pulling a 30-car lumber train around. Either 10 cars of cord wood, and 20 cars of planks, or 20 cars of logs, and 10 cars of planks. I would be making over a grand a trip and was level 10 in no time. Everything had interwoven loops to go to and from the freight depot to the lumber camp, to the sawmill, and I could have both trains set and ready to just cut one and back into the other by just throwing a single switch to run around the cars not in use. The grind is real and the work is repetitive, but work is work, both IRL and in game.

[@kleetus92]

I play a game to have fun, not to put in as many hours as I do at work.

[@lordraven1991]

@@kleetus92 Same, but complaining about it doesn't get anything done, now does it. Otherwise just turn every game into a sandbox with everything unlocked and it all has 0 cost. Then everyone can complain that there is no point in playing because there's no sense of achievement.

[@kleetus92]

@@lordraven1991 unless you enjoy the infrasture design side of it to make your own custom road (with rudimentary tools)

[@lordraven1991]

@@kleetus92 Yeah, that's what makes RO stand out for me, the ability to lay my own track wherever I can get it to fit.

[@bluewolf9964]

Hey kan just a heads up that there's allot the requires allot of other items, like meat packing plant needs metal pipes. Also I found that the big cars are much more beneficial in the money and xp and transport. Hopefully you look into it ! Plus big cars look nicer little cars feel wierd in my personal opinion.

[@pccc5431]

this reminds me of forza motorsport, put in a level system for cars, the more you drive the higher the level (individual to all cars, so grinding one car means you then have to grind every other one) to limit the avalible upgrades, killed the game a little at the time....which is just too time consuming to the point it just isn't fun

[@DavG_NZ]

Well... that tier system seems a bit garbage, But I still hope you overcome issues and keep making video's on it.

[@user-ov8vn1hf1q]

If you get a friend to join use their money to buy 10 skeleton log cars and you’ll get 500 bucks per fully loaded train

[@Shipwright1918]

All the more reason to like Railroader. No XP system at all, you got the dough you can buy whatever you want.

[@TheEpicDragonCat]

I’ve found the small cars will jump off the rails at 40mph. Even on a completely straight track they will come off at 40!

[@JP-bp3he]

you will be able to set switches from the map in the next update (hopefully), also logs are worth 10 each. ;)

[@CallMeTeach2]

Watch him realize clicking and holding the scroll wheel is a quick menu for rerailing, tree chopping, and deleting.

[@MTE610]

Aurora Falls, Silverado, and Pacific Railroad

[@johnnysgaragecarsgaming6841]

With how much work you've put in.I would just go to railroad studio and up your xp Until you get to the level you feel you have reached

[@Beast_21000]

Bit late here and doubt you’ll see this Kan but here I go: 2 things to say. 1) I find it funny that the one video where you have a problem because of a major concept in the game is the only video of the new series the official RRO KZbin hasn’t commented. 2) I agree with the leveling thing, what I would always do at the beginning of a playthrough is use an extension called RROX (Railroads Online Extended) to give myself essentially infinite EXP so that I didn’t have to worry about that. You could also use that to give yourself money, but I hated using that and I doubt you would too. It also has a few other quality of life stuff. Anyways, hope everyone has a good day!

[@timjouwstra]

The farm chain doesn't give out good pay or xp, I don't know about cattle and forward as I haven't got that far. Also the small cars and Heisler will start to derail on most curves around 35 mph

[@LoPhatKao]

wish the animal and gold resource paths were as viable as classic lumber/iron

[@bluewolf9964]

We need more railroads online !!

[@train_chicken6143]

what you should do at the wheat farm you should get a lot of small cars and load them and store them there

[@davidcox2125]

Map update is coming next month they say and will have track shown and be able to change switches

[@michaelmcneil4998]

YESSS - Finally!

[@theodoric4270]

They plan to enable you to flip switches from the map in the next update.

[@Nicegamer_Productions]

I have a question are you gonna do more steam and steal it got more locomotives when you played the last time

[@YoLo-bb2vc]

Kan i actually found building to the logging camp and selling logs at the freight depot to be a good start the grain industry chain is in my opinion to much to think about at the start plsu within the first hour i had a betsy hauling 12 small cars of logs and each small car was $50 per load meaning i was making around 600 dollars per load and i was leveling pretty quickly because of it the grain stuff is awful business you have to do too much for too little reward.

[@i_eat_dirt2]

kan wait till you hear about the next update

[@southernwolfgaming]

I won't say that I would suggest this name but it was the name that I came up with when I did my first railroads online playthrough and I never used it I used Cherokee mountain railroad and then the one that I'm using currently and not only roads online but railroader as well and that was Wolf mountain railroad now I know it sounds corny but I feel like it fits the name and the games really well so I use them

[@Gamerboi1027]

you get xp based on the money you make. if you get $10 you get 10XP

[@jm56585]

they should add signalling boxes

[@Mythbusters623]

you might need to save for a tier 5 train for the tier 5 cattle cars

[@destructulus]

Name idea: St. Louis, Topeka, Iowa & Northern Kansas Railway (STINKR)

[@3nity89]

in the next update you can turn switches on the map

[@Laughandg0]

kAN be surprised that he actually has to build the industry before moving on lol, thats why you set XP and money gains to high until you hit where you wanna be

[@snoopyboy987dozier6]

A suggestion for an easy way to flip switches might be a pistol? You could lean out the window and shoot the flag thing. I know it's not realistic but it is very funny to me :)

[@Dimandblade]

I recommend that you invest in the 60 ft. log cars or the skeleton flats, the plantation log cars are kind of useless

[@kenanjones3481]

why? I just made a starter train of 8 plantation log cars and it's been perfectly functional so far. am I missing something?

[@BP_211yt]

A name for your railroad could be made from made up town names like the Selina, Highview, Idoua & Trenton

[@user-dz7rs3cm4m]

That xp system would fr make me quit all together.

[@thestainmorephoenix8632]

The water gives 5xp no matter the car size. Total xp is unit xp x total units. What you need to really do is mix what you deliver

[@user-ov8vn1hf1q]

And in two trips you’ll go up one level

[@FrancescoZilla]

1102, you have caused confusion and delay!

[@MagicalPorkChop]

Company name: Falls (Aurora) Railroad Transport. 😁

[@hueyiroquois3839]

12:40 I think that's another reason that the cars are in a bad order.

[@Baer1990]

12:56 That's where you're wrong, Hyce explained it. Putting the reverser in reverse without reg is giving resistence. Much like the engine brake in a truck

[@ducewags]

@Baer1990 Every engine has a brake force, unless it has zero compression.

[@Baer1990]

@@ducewags Yes, but trucks have a mandatory secondary non-wearable brake. These are usually hydraulic or magnetic retarders, or the engine brake. The engine brake is a valve in the exhaust that closes the exhaust 95-99% giving some decent braking capabilities for running downhill for example

[@ducewags]

@@Baer1990 I know that, and if the engine has NO compression, it won't work. Read my comment again. A engine brake can fail to work, they have wires running to them, from switches, on a fused line. The engine brake turns an engine into a vaccum. That vaccum won't work without a sealed chamber. If the valves don't close, you have a free breathing block, no compression, no vaccum no engine brake.

[@Baer1990]

@@ducewags If you knew I was talking about a trucks engine brake, why did you start this discussion?

[@ducewags]

@@Baer1990 Read my first comment again, and think about it. And you started the "engine brake in a truck" thing, not me.

[@Pyrotrainthing]

I would say getting Level 2, then grinding money for a Tier 2 loco (my bias is towards the Mason Bogie) and grabbing tier 2 cars respectively. Also disappointed that the game still forces you more or less down the Logging Industry path to level up.

[@boinker139]

I am not a fan of their leveling system either. Seems a bit long in the tooth to get to the later locomotives and rolling stock.

[@eminem29fan]

@kANGaming yeah T.R.A.S.H (Transport Railway Across Scenic Highlands) sounds good. AFRR seems fine too (given the map shows the aroura in the night sky) also don't you make $$ from lumber from the sawmill on the other saved server's of this game first??

[@Videoman2000]

I didn't have time for the grind, so I just use one of the save file modifier.

[@riddickraymond7067]

I'm waiting for Heat death: survival Train.

[@A.a.s.t.o.r.the.radio.demon.]

LETS GOO

[@BenskiBoi]

Ay Camodo is taking good car is his driving bad

[@leechowning8728]

XP 700 of 1,000... Looks like the leveling mechanic is VERY slow. I miss you and Hyce doing the train podcasts, but I understand why we do not see him on as much, but it looks like you still have a bunch to do to get up to the higher levels yet.

[@DavG_NZ]

Well that tier system seems a bit garbage, But I still hope you post more video's about it

[@mrpirate2669]

Just wait until he finds out the meat packing plant needs coal....

[@1GeorgeJung]

This game was released as one of the best train games I've played but as it gets better it's taking one step forward 2 steps back and it's now probably the worst train game I have

[@England91]

I'm noticing ghosting from the loco and cars

[@brettgrindel9017]

KANadian Agricultural Network?

[@MattDvc]

doing 3 cars a run won't get you anywhere. get 15+ cars and do cordwood/planks for good xp and cash. otherwise it's gonna be just another save with big plans that never realise.

[@Mostafa-vs8bd]

Hello Please more video of this game And paint wagon And do a loop on lake near sawmill for unloading

[@gabeevers8281]

Southern Louisiana and Central Kansas Shipping. Or S.L.A.C.K.S

[@chasenelson5586]

Big Kan Railroad?

[@obbi442]

does kan not know devs made the reverser work like it supposed to?

[@danielhomant2832]

Dang, the first part of this video was just one problem after another. One might even say, a train wreck of a start. Ha!

[@datguymiller]

LIMES

[@simonlees2848]

I did say you should run logs down with your water uo

[@bread0237]

Bread

[@stephennussey5787]

small cars are speed limited, i think its 40 and they derail

[@priceymemes7699]

You should call the railroad the “kans blocked railway” because the you being blocked

[@ryano.5149]

Ya know, it's almost as if the "game" portion of the game wasn't well thought out or something, and the devs should have spent more time working on the economy/leveling system before releasing all the new industies... But hey, what do I know?