The Diet Trap: Why You Should Never Go on a Diet Again and What To Do Instead

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University of California Television (UCTV)

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@EliasReda
@EliasReda 3 жыл бұрын
These people say you don't need a diet and then proceed to describe a diet. Although I see what they mean. Basically you need to adopt a diet of healthy food for life, sugar and alcohol should never be consumed on a daily basis.
@SeanCarter
@SeanCarter 2 жыл бұрын
Based on the information given in the thumbnail, I can say that's true based on my own experience. I yo-yo dieted for years, gaining and losing weight. Before that, however, I successfully managed to lose 100+ lbs on a diet. Despite that success, there were some things that I didn't understand about diet and overall lifestyle. Because of that, about 4 years after my weight loss, I became a binge eater for more than a decade. I couldn't stop it no matter how hard I tried. Of course, I ended up gaining most of the weight back. There would be times where I would shake the habit long enough to get down to my goal weight but would always give in somehow. Wanna know what finally helped me to stop binge eating and all of the other crap mentioned? Giving up sugar and most other processed foods. What I realized was that when I binged, I wasn't binging on whole food items, I was binging on junk. Junk such as pizza, candy, chips, ice cream, burgers, sugary drinks, etc. I wasn't binging on meats, fruits, green leafy vegetables, etc. I figured that if I could go for a week without sugar and a minimal amount of processed food (you'll never be perfect at this one) and find that my cravings cease, then I'm right in my assessment that processed food is the culprit. Aaaaaaaand it turns out that I was right. Since making that change, I haven't consumed any added sugar since and my processed food intake has been at a minimum. As for beverages, I consume only water, tea (no sugar) and black coffee w/ stevia. Now, I'm almost never hungry.
@kosys5338
@kosys5338 3 жыл бұрын
It's not about diets people, it's about making a sustainable lifestyle change.
@BartBVanBockstaele
@BartBVanBockstaele 2 жыл бұрын
"lifestyle" is just another word for "diet". It is a distinction without a difference.
@kosys5338
@kosys5338 2 жыл бұрын
@@BartBVanBockstaele exercise, sleep, not smoking, not drinking, no drugs, meditation and mindfulness are all part of lifestyle and have nothing to do with diet. So I would beg to differ.
@kosys5338
@kosys5338 2 жыл бұрын
@@BartBVanBockstaele di*et noun 1. the kinds of food that a person, animal or community habitually eats. 2. a special course of food to which one restricts oneself, either to lose weight or for medical reasons. life*style noun the way in which a person or group lives. There is a very distinct difference between the meanings of those two words. I hope that aids in educating you in the differences of the two words lifestyle and diet. Cheers!
@BartBVanBockstaele
@BartBVanBockstaele 2 жыл бұрын
@@kosys5338 I will not contest that, except that this is exactly what diet originally means: ***** c. 1200, "regular food," from Old French diete (13c.) "diet, pittance, fare," from Medieval Latin dieta "parliamentary assembly," also "a day's work; daily food allowance, food," from Latin diaeta "prescribed way of life," from Greek diaita, originally "way of life, regimen, dwelling," related to diaitasthai "lead one's life," and from diaitan, originally "separate, select" (food and drink), frequentative of *diainysthai "take apart," from dia "apart" (see dia-) + ainysthai "take," from PIE root *ai- (1) "to give, allot." ***** One could, of course, argue that it has a different meaning now, language changes after all, but the connection cannot be denied.
@kosys5338
@kosys5338 2 жыл бұрын
@@BartBVanBockstaele I think it was pretty obvious that I was speaking modern English and not medieval Latin or old French. I think the majority of people will know exactly what I'm talking about, there is no need for you to complicate things that are not complicated with nonsense. Stay in the present my friend. Cheers!
@diablominero
@diablominero 5 жыл бұрын
If you're on a weight watchers style diet and try to take a half-hour walk, you'll have to fight a lot more during that half-hour than you would if your hypothalamus doesn't think you're starving.
@joneilltarvin
@joneilltarvin 4 жыл бұрын
This was very informative. And the last nugget, that the overweight/obese BMI points were shifted down 20 years ago at the behest of the diet industry is astounding, If we were still using the older model, I'm suddenly no longer overweight! That information in and of itself could be quite freeing for a lot of people, who could then possibly relearn to eat healthfully and intuitively as they would no longer feel like they HAD to be on a diet.
@charlottearena
@charlottearena 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! Yes stunning presentation. Thank you
@bigg5582
@bigg5582 3 жыл бұрын
Would agree..using todays standards many international rugby players are obese ..which makes the whole thing laughable
@BartBVanBockstaele
@BartBVanBockstaele 2 жыл бұрын
I am not sure to what extent the claim is correct. All the NIH did was bring the US standards in line with those of the WHO. On top of that, BMI is meant for the study of populations, not individuals. I'd need to see some pretty solid evidence before accepting that the "diet industry" deserves any blame here.
@smileyeagle1021
@smileyeagle1021 6 жыл бұрын
It is a bit disheartening to hear so much focus on mortality in the first presentation and almost completely ignoring quality of life issues. There are a lot of reasons to not want to be overweight/obese other than living longer. Seriously, carrying around extra weight means every activity is more tiring and more wear and tear on joints. Extra weight makes it harder to find clothing that fits or is affordable, if you are overweight enough it will require purchasing extra seats when flying, it requires purchasing special equipment such as seat belt extenders to safely use a motor vehicle, it may even require buying different cars to be able to fit, be heavy enough and you'll be using the fuel to transport a second person in your car, without a second person, being fat costs a lot of money. Oh, and the experiences you miss out on. From a safety perspective, there are some things that simply can't be done when you are above a certain size. Roller coasters are a no-go (restraints aren't big enough), horseback riding, only if you are willing to injure the horse, the list of things that you can physically be too large for is staggeringly long. I appreciate the message that you need to focus more on a healthy life style than worrying about being on a diet, but to dismiss being overweight as "well, it probably won't make you die any sooner" (a dubious claim at best, I watched my grandma die of renal failure due to type 2 diabetes, both of which were determined to be caused by her weight, don't even try to tell me that being overweight doesn't increase your risk of dying younger) and losing weight shouldn't be a motivator is absolutely the worst advise I have ever heard.
@TheJeanette53
@TheJeanette53 5 жыл бұрын
smileyeagle1021 I think you misinterpreted the message here. They seemed to me to be saying that being obsessed with weight loss is not the way to go. Rather, healthy eating, sensible exercise and reaching what is an optimal weight for your own unique body is the key. Obesity will reduce if you do this, without being too obsessed with the scales. If someone has type 2 diabetes they can often reverse it by following this advice with a little help from the right nutritionist. The extreme cases of overweight you refer to are not what is being addressed here.
@EliasReda
@EliasReda 3 жыл бұрын
This is true, also there is a common practice in science where they don't correlate the cause with the outcome. She said the chances of dying because of obesity are low and you're more likely to die because of blood pressure. At this point we should ask whether obesity would increase the chances of getting blood pressure and other cardiovascular diseases. That's like saying people die because of lung cancer not because they smoke, assuming that blood pressure is a byproduct of obesity.
@bigg5582
@bigg5582 3 жыл бұрын
Being over bmi 30 means your obese and many people between 30 and 40 are very fit and eat healthy...
@1cdo_rli706
@1cdo_rli706 6 жыл бұрын
1. Move from dieting to modifying your diet. 2. Experiment with, and adapt to new food tastes. For instance when you eat a salad. Substitute sugar packed salad dressings for freshly squeezed lemon. 3. If you weigh, don't use your scale for motivation, reward, or punishment. If you are on the right track, the needle will move reasonably short distances either way. 4. Okay here is a weird one. Going to bed feeling a little hungry can actually feel rewarding. No idea if it helps with weight loss. 5. As you get older keeping weight down is beneficial if you like walking and hiking. As you get older your joints are not what they used to be.
@TheJeanette53
@TheJeanette53 5 жыл бұрын
1CDO_RLI Don’t agree with going to bed feeling hungry. If I do that I can’t sleep. Don’t like walking either. Prefer dancing it’s much more fun. Never used pre made salad dressings. Olive oil and lemon with salt and pepper suits me fine. As I get older nothing is what it used to be. But some things are better - good company, good food and don’t have to hurry with anything. Life is good when you feel good.
@sculder1121
@sculder1121 6 жыл бұрын
The second speaker is blunt as hell. Weirdly refreshing. Not to detract from Dr. Aamodt, she's awesome.
@mariawilliams2610
@mariawilliams2610 5 жыл бұрын
Agree. Second speaker is awesome & speaks faster so not too boring.
@leanmchungry4735
@leanmchungry4735 3 жыл бұрын
Dr Aamodt cracked me up, I wasn't expecting such mirth. Her lecture's optimistic statistics on obesity and mortality, pointing to the potential of being healthy and obese, were recorded before covid hit..."Your weight is not going to kill you" However obesity is now associated with a higher rate of death from covid, I wonder what the updated statistics say? Whatever, Dr Aamodt's account of the arcuate nucleus was fascinating.
@tammikibler
@tammikibler 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! Healthy habits are the goal
@lolam.9291
@lolam.9291 5 жыл бұрын
Intermittent fasting with exercise. It’s a lifestyle.
@mariesosnowski389
@mariesosnowski389 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s called starvation.
@dictare
@dictare 3 жыл бұрын
@@mariesosnowski389 Fasting is not starvation. Starvation is when the body requires food and there is none available. Fasting is making a conscious decision to abstain from food. Fasting is a great way to reverse obesity, high blood pressure and diabetes. Christians have fasting days through out the year and some fast for forty days. Jews and Muslims also fast.
@sjr7822
@sjr7822 3 жыл бұрын
I followed someone on their Intermittent fasting journey via YT, He looked fabulous, but, he has gone back to this junk food habit and slack ways, and looks worse than ever. It's not a diet, it's a lifestyle is true.
@bigg5582
@bigg5582 3 жыл бұрын
@@sjr7822 I personally don't do fasting but his reason for going back to his junk food ways was not the fault of intermittent fasting.
@nadinabbott3991
@nadinabbott3991 3 жыл бұрын
@@mariesosnowski389 hold it. Eating dinner and not eating anything till breakfast is starvation?
@diablominero
@diablominero 5 жыл бұрын
I'd have left a like on the video for the first lecturer, but I HATED the second one, so dislike it is.
@brysonwest93
@brysonwest93 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, same. Unpleasant to listen to. Also, she seemed to be saying exactly what the first said not to do. Weird.
@garfieldy7473
@garfieldy7473 2 жыл бұрын
I liked them both, but Darya Rose is lovely.
@horngtham6262
@horngtham6262 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for recording the q&a session.
@Kyarrix
@Kyarrix 6 жыл бұрын
Is there not a way to actually reduce, lower your defended set point? It's kind of depressing and dire if the messages is that's it and there's nothing you can do to change it.
@TwoPlusTwoEqualsFive32
@TwoPlusTwoEqualsFive32 5 жыл бұрын
Lower insulin through fasting.
@foxiefair123
@foxiefair123 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, there is.
@ash20453
@ash20453 5 жыл бұрын
foxiefair123 Hindsight studies ? Links? Either of you two?
@gloriagirgis
@gloriagirgis 4 жыл бұрын
I lost 140 lbs, from 283 to 143. I maintained it for 2 years, then I gained 10 lbs back. After another 2 years, I gained 10 more. I'm now comfortably maintaining at 160 lbs. I've put on muscle and my weight is well distributed. I don't feel hungry now. At 143, I was hungry constantly. My set weight may not be as low as I'd like, but I'd much rather be 160 than 283.
@Kyarrix
@Kyarrix 4 жыл бұрын
@@gloriagirgis That is wonderful. Congratulations on that achievement and the hard work and dedication. I was 320 or so and I'm now under 200. There is a ways to go for me yet. Anything else you want to add is helpful. I do intermittent fasting and try to keep carbs to a minimum, one or two meals a day.
@Mrs.TJTaylor
@Mrs.TJTaylor 5 жыл бұрын
I never knew that neuroscientists were so hilarious!
@garyblack9332
@garyblack9332 5 жыл бұрын
Never heard so much conversation with zero information.
@JENNerationX
@JENNerationX 2 жыл бұрын
It’s got to be a lifestyle - or don’t bother
@overcomer4226
@overcomer4226 3 жыл бұрын
The most distant heartening things that these presenters say is they keep talking about this person lost 10 that person lost 15. There is something far for greater going on when a person has 65 or 55 pounds to lose. When you're a metabolic rack why doesn't anybody addressed this
@kinokikinoki
@kinokikinoki 6 жыл бұрын
My partner wants to go an something she calls 'the lemon master diet', which she says the benefits will be to ; 1) Rest her digestive system and 2) weight loss. I instinctively think it is just useless suffering. Does anybody out there know about this diet and what to tell her?
@sculder1121
@sculder1121 6 жыл бұрын
If it's anything like other random "lemon" diets that I've heard of, all it is is basically intermittent fasting. Extremely short-term and unsustainable. In the extreme short term it is of course helpful because it helps your body reset to a baseline of sorts, but (water) fasting much longer than a couple of days needs to be monitored closely by a professional.
@IgnoreMeImWrong
@IgnoreMeImWrong 6 жыл бұрын
It's a water fast, it's not a diet it's a tool. The lemon in waster is common for people who enjoy daily detox and immune system boosting. Intermittent Fasting is something that EVERY normal human does on a DAILY basis. The difference is you go 12-23 hours instead of 8 hours without eating. People are so afraid of not eating, it's pathetic.
@sculder1121
@sculder1121 6 жыл бұрын
Let's argue about other peoples' preferences in YT comments. I'm sure it'll be productive.
@IgnoreMeImWrong
@IgnoreMeImWrong 6 жыл бұрын
Oh look let's divert from the topic because it's impossible to be correct.
@sculder1121
@sculder1121 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent start! I'm sure every human body reacts exactly the same to every type of cleanse, and that everyone understands how to do it properly. I'm also sure the points the first speaker made about weight having almost no bearing on overall health if the person has a generally active and healthy lifestyle is also pseudoscience and endorsed by nothing but fairy dust and chicken nuggets.
@aaronbirook4367
@aaronbirook4367 2 жыл бұрын
Sugar, Alcohol and Sweets should be cut out permanently. Fast food, Pizza and Fried foods should be cut out permanently. Chips and crackers were my weakness but they had to go for me to thrive.
@melaniexoxo
@melaniexoxo 5 жыл бұрын
I exercised while watching this.
@foxiefair123
@foxiefair123 5 жыл бұрын
lambchopxoxo 😂
@melaniexoxo
@melaniexoxo 5 жыл бұрын
Great presentations. Thank you!
@profribasmat217
@profribasmat217 6 жыл бұрын
And yet I still look better lean...
@rosheezy
@rosheezy 6 жыл бұрын
Wow- incredible presentations!! These tips and facts are absolutely gold.
@SkithTickler
@SkithTickler 4 жыл бұрын
Take a shot whenever she goes 'Mleh'. Pop filters save ASMR lives.
@RebeccaYen
@RebeccaYen 4 жыл бұрын
Go on a lifestyle.
@qZoneful
@qZoneful 29 күн бұрын
21:10 2 glasses of alchol per day is alcholism bro
@nadinabbott3991
@nadinabbott3991 3 жыл бұрын
I guess I am a unicorn. However, not losing the weight I would have been in a wheelchair. Second speaker is much better too Breaking the 20:00 snacking habit. With IF this is not going to happen
@marye813
@marye813 Жыл бұрын
Isn't the problem that obese people don't eat a healthy diet? What about type 2 diabetes and premature knee and hip joint failure? I think this presentation is one point of view but may understate the medical issues and focuses only on mortality. The cost of poor health to the US health system is enormous. If everyone ate a healthy diet and got some exercise the for profit medical monster of Wall Street would be less profitable. There is more money to be made in treating sick people than in helping people stay healthy.
@Biomeducated
@Biomeducated 5 жыл бұрын
If you want a good laugh: go to 31:08 and put on the subtitles :D And now seriously: as a Biomedical Researcher in Hepatology/Gastroenterology I'm highly interested in nutrition. As a sportsy type I'm also highly interested in fitness. Health and how the human body works is what got me into Biomedical Science in the first place. Now that I have access to the Biomedical Literature through my uni (now doing a PhD, worked in Biotech earlier for 5 years), I'm planning to look up papers, reviews on nutrition and also try to communicate this to a broader audience. Videos like these are essential to try and boycot the 'crap' food industry, because in the end, it's still an industry. Nutrition science is so complex and there are so many misconceptions out there. More importantly, I think good nutritious food and healthy habits are hugely underestimated as therapeutic options for so many diseases... but then again like Dr. Rose explains, psychology. It's much easier to take a pill per day then cook yourself 2 or 3 healthy meals and go for a 30 min run...
@AnnaMaledonPictureBookAuthor
@AnnaMaledonPictureBookAuthor 5 жыл бұрын
A diet should be a long term, not 1-week, 2-week-thing. Diet is not a vacation. Diet should be for life, it should be a lifestyle. So it has to be REASONABLE AND EASY ENOUGH TO IMPLEMENT AND HEALTHY. Also, the notion that calorie is a calorie is so dumb. Counting calories on its own is pointless and stupid. 140 kcal from a piece of chicken is not the same as 140kcal from a candy bar or soda. We digest different things differently and fructose turns to fat, so you need to watch your intake and read the labels, but you don't need to count calories. Glucose is digested differently to fructose so it doesn't turn to very much fat at all, as your body can use glucose ( watch dr Robert Lustig's videos on youtube about sugar). Your body doesn't need fructose for anything. You can still eat fruits though as they have fiber, vitamins etc but think twice about drinking fruit juices as they spike insulin levels, which in turn makes you eat more. Quit smoking, drink only on occasion, eat veg, fruits, meat, fish, beans, eggs, dairy. You can eat almost anything, even bread and pasta. What matters is quality, especially when it comes to fats. Educate yourself about saturated fats. They are not the villain, they are in fact healthier than vegetable oils and margarine. Definitely watch your sugar intake, especially during breakfast as this is by far the sweetest meal of the day for many: pancakes, bagels, pastry, cereals, muesli, even protein bars and smoothies. I realized that my choice of breakfast is making me gain weight. If your diet is super restrictive, chances are, you will not stick to it for long. Concentrate on forming healthy habits. If you lose weight with it, that's a great side effect. The most useful part of this presentation was about forming good habits. That's a very reasonable approach. Being mindful when eating and chewing the food is good advice too. Cut sugar and eat more healthy fat, that should be the recommendation. Do check dr Jason Jung on youtube too and why he advocates skipping breakfast or postponing it till later: it is called intermittent fasting.
@TrishtonCarroll
@TrishtonCarroll 4 жыл бұрын
This was not really that helpful, honestly 😬😬 it was contradicting?
@coimbralaw
@coimbralaw 2 жыл бұрын
Nobody made you watch it you st***d s*n of a b***h
@diablominero
@diablominero 5 жыл бұрын
Anyone who advocates mindfulness gets an automatic "go to hell" from me. A teacher made my class do mindfulness meditation stuff once a week for a couple months my freshman year of high school, and I still haven't forgiven the field for being imposed on me like that. The funny thing is I'm actually naturally inclined to do the mindfulness things the teacher was introducing to us. It's not the topics my grudge is against. It's the name. Anything called "mindfulness" can get the fuck off my sand dune until it comes back under a different name.
@waqasusmans
@waqasusmans 3 жыл бұрын
Why so angry? Did you forget to do your mindfulness exercises?
@karimaogden3875
@karimaogden3875 5 жыл бұрын
WOW! The intro speaker Ashley Mason looks a LOT like Amanda Knox, the american exchange student in Perugia, Italy that was accused along with her then Italian boyfriend, Rafaele Sollecito of murdering her British roomate Meredith Kircher in 2008.
@bigg5582
@bigg5582 3 жыл бұрын
psssh she didnt mention it at the job interview...
@sharinaross1865
@sharinaross1865 2 жыл бұрын
"To solve a problem you no longer have."...hmmmm
@christinah.8504
@christinah.8504 5 жыл бұрын
you shouldn't diet. What you need to do is go without food for extended periods of time. It's called intermittent fasting. When you start looking up videos about this, you'll see how many people have shed so much weight by not dieting , but by restricting the amount of time you eat in a day. It works. It's awesome and for everyone who doesn't know about this,.... you're welcome.
@nats2976
@nats2976 6 жыл бұрын
She is right obesity doesn't kill, just quality of life can be limited.
@samimotag
@samimotag 6 жыл бұрын
Dawn Ambrose I agree! I've always felt that as a society we bully overweight or obese people. It's wrong and it has to stop.
@IgnoreMeImWrong
@IgnoreMeImWrong 6 жыл бұрын
Obesity is a symptom of a dying body, pay attention and stop ignoring the screaming.
@TwoPlusTwoEqualsFive32
@TwoPlusTwoEqualsFive32 5 жыл бұрын
Obesity does not kill, but if you have obesity the issue causing obesity, usually high insulin resistance, diabetes, inflammation and fatty organs most definetly can and will.
@TwoPlusTwoEqualsFive32
@TwoPlusTwoEqualsFive32 5 жыл бұрын
@@samimotag Obesity have a huge cost on society, people who wilfully do harm to themselves but then leach off tax payer paid services are literally stealing money from people's pockets indirectly. Same goes with people who smoke, do drugs, or heavily drink.
@c_farther5208
@c_farther5208 5 жыл бұрын
The woman who gave the talk on the Habit Change needs classes on public speaking. Uhhhh, Ummm, AND AND AND and my hands will be used for every syllable and allow me to lower my voice and become nasal. Oh my god, ban this woman from a podium. Aaaaaand...I cannot stand her. Pure torture. Moving on.
@JohnJohn-wr7lg
@JohnJohn-wr7lg 3 жыл бұрын
Those ads!
@coimbralaw
@coimbralaw 2 жыл бұрын
Get the premium version then you f*****g cheapskate
@megaswenson
@megaswenson 5 жыл бұрын
Can someone provide a synopsis of what we SHOULD do? I'm NOT going to sit through ninety minutes of AMPLIFIED SALIVA NOISES. By the way... UC needs to dismiss whatever idiot served as "Sound Engineer" for this. I know universities are clogged with surly creeps in non-professorial positions, who drag the institutions down. (Tulane had MORE than its share, while I was there, including the famously hostile 'Bookstore Ladies') But really, this was pathetic.
@DaniloDanny77
@DaniloDanny77 4 жыл бұрын
Q: How many fat people DO EXERCISEA: Few. Q: How many fat people smoke? A: The majority. Q: How many fat people live longer than those not obese? A: Also the minority. Q: What is a diet? A: Certainly not something that lasts for a defined period of time in a person's lifetime. A diet is a lifestyle, a life choice. So I will continue to keep my weight in check as long as possible, be fit as long as possible. Not fit according to first speaker's words. Really, really fit.
@allencrider
@allencrider 5 жыл бұрын
Go vegan. The results of the Adventist 2 study showed that only vegans had ideal BMIs (below 25). All other groups, vegetarians, pescetarians, meat eaters had overweight BMIs. Vegans get lots of fiber, less FAT in their diet. They eat food that is nutrient rich and is less caloric dense than those who eat animal products. To lose weight, eat only whole fruits, vegetables, grains and legumes. Do not eat animal products, sugar or oil. No oil. You will lose weight eating as much food as you want and regain a lot of health. Never take dietary advice from an overweight person. Remember, America wasn't nearly this overweight 30 years ago. It's the food, not the attitude or other such nonsense.
@honeyfungus4774
@honeyfungus4774 4 жыл бұрын
Both of these women are appalling speakers, they should stick to writing books.
@gardengeek3041
@gardengeek3041 3 жыл бұрын
Agree. I thought maybe it was my failure, being unable to follow their train of thought. It would be difficult to take notes from this style of speaking.
@coimbralaw
@coimbralaw 2 жыл бұрын
You’re just an appalling human being. I truly wish the worst for you in this life for being so disgusting and hateful and cruel.
@nononouh
@nononouh 2 жыл бұрын
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@BenVanCamp
@BenVanCamp 5 жыл бұрын
2nd speaker is gorgeous.
@TheJeanette53
@TheJeanette53 5 жыл бұрын
Ben - they’re both beautiful!
@coimbralaw
@coimbralaw 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed that. The second lady (in the white blouse) is hot!
@jonnieinbangkok
@jonnieinbangkok 3 жыл бұрын
What a terrible speaker...all her lip smacking and breathing apnea.
@smitadalal2705
@smitadalal2705 5 жыл бұрын
V
@wick3dwords
@wick3dwords 4 жыл бұрын
Old people mouth sounds
@c_farther5208
@c_farther5208 5 жыл бұрын
Why don't women wear makeup anymore? They need it!!!
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