The Difference Between Rotational Grazing vs. Mob Grazing

We explain the difference between mob grazing and rotational grazing.
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[@TS-vr9of]

Hey Ryan, I thought you'd want to see this article. You mentioned that seeds can last 1000 years in the soil, there was some dried date found in a jar that was burred 2000 years ago around the time when Jesus walked the earth. The archeologists who found the seeds worked with an agronomist to rehydrate the seeds with a mineral seed soak and some of the seeds germinated and grew into trees with genetics from 2000 years ago. Pretty crazy the potential of plants to create offspring that will patient wait for thousands of years for the right fertility, moisture, and microbes to germinate.

[@xknewsense852]

CRAZY!!!

[@AgainstTheGrainDiet]

Thats nuts! 2000 years and the seeds will still grow!

[@tammoilliet8683]

In nature, predators drive the grazing animals from lounging around water sources and under trees and from staying in one spot for too long. He is using his electric fence to act as a predator. Simple brilliance!

[@AgainstTheGrainDiet]

You got it and a big Thank You!

[@MrMawnster]

No. It increases competition amongst them for eating.

[@LtColDaddy71]

"Can you do that up North?" "Probably not..." You would be surprised how successful stockpiling in tall forage is, even with snow on the ground. Depending on the year, we get years where we only feed hay for 30 days. Other years, up to 60. Is that timber yours? Silvopasture is a huge asset also. We had some hot humid weather last week, and we moved everything into the silvopasture for shade.

[@michaelkristopher4356]

Great information. I’m working with less land rotating 6 animals through 4 roughly 2 acre tracts every week and I see great grass production. I look forward to seeing what else you’re doing on your farm.

[@TS-vr9of]

Dude, this video was your best one yet. It's been awesome to see your understanding of grass and cattle continue to grow. Still rooting for you man. Best wishes.

[@AgainstTheGrainDiet]

Thank You! It is really is a learning process but I feel like im starting to get the hang of it!

[@crazycoyote1738]

Man, that was such a clear and helpful explanation!! I can taste the sweetness of grass with your emotional description..

[@AgainstTheGrainDiet]

Thank you! I cant tell you how often the question gets asked!

[@Drewskidelmar]

You have a beautiful pasture and animals ! Great explanation , we bought a small farm and the cows on it . They had about 4 big paddocks they were rotating, I installed electric fencing and have been mob grazing and moving them once and sometimes twice a day . Can’t wait to see the results, and hopefully will feed less hay!!

[@KaikanoSei]

Just found your channel, I am glad I have. My husband and I are starting our farm in the Northwestern Michigan Upper Peninsula as a grazing farm.

[@AgainstTheGrainDiet]

Congratulations! Its going to be a fun journey. You will have struggles but just enjoy them!

[@KaikanoSei]

@@AgainstTheGrainDiet My husband grew up on his families farm but the suburbs surrounded him so he knows quite a bit and I grew up and have lived in the farm areas but it is a ways North of what either of us are used to , I am interested in just how much we will be able to extend our grazing into winter up here. We are really glad to have found your channel. I look forward to watching you as you continue.

[@karinnaturestuff]

Good vid, and decent explanation! The next step up from mob grazing--aka Management-intensive Grazing as Jim Gerrish and Alan Nation coined it--is Holistic Planned Grazing, which utilizes several context checks and the understanding of four ecosystem processes (mineral cycle, water cycle, solar energy flow and community dynamics) to better manage the landscape, using the animals as your literal employees. Using your Holistic Context, coupled with financial planning and all that, you can use HPG (via the whole umbrella that is Holistic Management) to get to where you want your ranch to be in 5, 10, 50, or 100+ years. It's quite the program to study, and implement!

[@AgainstTheGrainDiet]

That is something that I would love to do! Very open to learning more and making this place even better!

[@randybutler4772]

Very interesting to learn of the success. Thank you for sharing.🐂

[@williamwhite1596]

Glad you're in a better place . Also good information ! God Bless !!!

[@lozza2272]

"He's a grass farmer." Love it!

[@brandondickerson2785]

Love these videos! Every video I watch the more I hate my IT job lol. Hopefully moving back to east Texas in 2 years.

[@ArizonaKid]

Good info sir , see ya on the next one . Oh I hit 1k !! If I didn’t already tell ya ? Thanks for your help getting there . God Bless

[@AgainstTheGrainDiet]

Congratulations man! Keep it up and the channel will keep growing!

[@davemi00]

Taller trees have higher branches, and the Shade Area is much more diverse. So depending on the Time of Day, that Shade Moves around a Larger Area. Resulting in: Less Concentration of Manure in a given Spot. It’s Spread around a Larger Area.

[@pronoia.]

I call myself a dirt farmer and a turf herder, the livestock just follow me like birds do a tractor ploughing

[@333grace]

Love it! Good to know! Praying the LORD will make a way if there is time. No doubt rapture soon, but still need to occupy till He calls.

[@jmc9507]

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[@sunshinebreck]

Thanks!

[@derekyoung523]

I know this is an old video, but I’m curious what you were grazing the llamas for?

[@hectorperez7655]

how many animals do you have vs land? grow conditions, rain, ec..

[@BuddyCBuddy]

Great explanation vid

[@AgainstTheGrainDiet]

Thank You!

[@floridacoder]

How long do parasite eggs survive without a host? How soon can you return to a field without risking high parasite loads?

[@markborgman73]

Good job explaining instead of just rambling the way some youtubers do

[@Forester-qs5mf]

3 days is more likely the time before grass starts growing from my observations. 3 days is also the timeframe for sheep parasites to move from dung up a grass blade to about an inch high ready to be reingested. Mob Grazing is a confusing term. Better to use Time Managed Intensive Grazing... within a Holistic Context.

[@AgainstTheGrainDiet]

Thats very true, mob grazing is just the term that most people are familiar with.

[@pasionporelcerdo9517]

You should try rotating three times per day

[@michaelripperger5674]

Thank you. Very informative. On the 12 days for the parasites to hatch. How long after they hatch are they still alive? When can you put them back on that same piece of grass if you’re trying to cut down on parasite load

[@AgainstTheGrainDiet]

21 days is kind of the rule of thumb

[@redleader-qm2od]

can we get a before and after ariel view if you have it?

[@AgainstTheGrainDiet]

One of my next investments will be in a drone. Im just terrible at flying those things

[@tmatt1999]

Good video thank you. One question, if you pre-setup your fencing, doesn't that frustrate your hay-making?

[@AgainstTheGrainDiet]

We don’t make our own hay. So far it’s been cheaper and more productive to buy it. We will see if that rings true for this year

[@JS-jh4cy]

What is your cattle breed? Is that the real long horns?

[@noah-gordon]

Great video bud! Have you ever tried dragging the pasture afterwards!

[@AgainstTheGrainDiet]

Thanks! I really dont see the need to since the manure is spread out pretty even already.plus we are leaving so much grass behind it would almost be impossible to do without tearing up the pasture

[@noah-gordon]

@@AgainstTheGrainDiet Thanks for the reply! I’ve got buffalo and have been trying to do rotational grazing for a while now but haven’t been able to keep them in a single wire. I’ve got a KZbin channel the same size as yours. I’m doing a series on trying it again as we speak with the first video coming out tomorrow... Needless to say I had trouble again. Lol

[@noah-gordon]

@@AgainstTheGrainDiet Hey, if you are ever be interested in a collaboration hit me up. [e-mail] I checked out a couple of your videos and love what you’re doing!

[@ianpaterson6111]

If it's dryish try harrowing your pasture with light harrows. Yes it will tear up a little pasture but that is a good thing as it will let new plants get started and spread manure which will kill parasites.

[@SetYourOwnSail]

Does the 12 day rule w the parasites apply to sheep as well?

[@AgainstTheGrainDiet]

Yes

[@SetYourOwnSail]

Thank you!

[@angelakinnett6345]

So are you moving water every day you move them?

[@AgainstTheGrainDiet]

Yes or depending on the area I don’t put up a back fence for 2-3 days

[@v01.]

Hard to listen, because of so much gesticulation.

[@jerilyni616]

Do you know if you can mob graze with just sheep? Or do you need the impact of the big animals?

[@karinnaturestuff]

IMHO you can mob graze just as well with sheep; pretty well any animal if you plan your moves out well enough.

[@Gustav4]

You can use sheep, they might impact the land a bit different but since they not only have a lower weight, they also have a smaller foot so the weight is distributed on a smaller area which helps giving more impact. But regarding overgrazing and managing your grasses, sheep can do fine, they might prefer to eat forbs better but the goal is not to eat the grass, the goal is to remove the old grass so new growth can grow, and that can also happen by trampling the stuff they dont eat.

[@AgainstTheGrainDiet]

You can do it with just about any animal that will stay in an electric fence. Bison are hard because they are so big and hairy they dont get shocked as well

[@garrettnichols2719]

with 180 acres in south central okahoma is it possible to mob graze or is more land needed?

[@DaveThomson]

How much rain fall?

[@DaveThomson]

Figure out how many cows days you have for 1 acre! This means how many days can you feed a single cow on one acre. Then multiply from there.

[@eyeofchorus6313]

As good as you are at talking to the camera I think you would do better to look at the camera lens a lot more.

[@ianpaterson6111]

Zebras are not ruminants

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[@jmc9507]

true israel needs to wake up!

[@theun4giv3n]

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[@jasonbates2977]

You are talking about this stuff like it new and news to farmers. Agricultural science has been around for centuries, the backbone of countries economies and they worked this stuff out before your grandad was born. Can tell you haven’t been doing this for that long and it’s all becoming a light bulb moment for you. Dairy farmers rotational graze and move their cattle twice a day. Beef farmers tend not to practice this style of management because they are selling their cattle at standard commodity prices and it’s an inefficient management of time. You are a hobby farmer, running a very small herd, please spend a bit more time understanding the true knowledge of farmers. Beware of the people making money just by selling dreams. And by the way Zebras aren’t ruminates.