The disappointing Raimi Black Spider-Man Suit

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[@shroom2692]

In summary: It looks cool, it's just not a good adaptation

[@GMP1isReal]

So basically the Raimi trilogy as a whole

[@Dude-gu8jx]

Yea I think the suit we got but with the original symbiote logo would’ve been better

[@fusion6497]

@@GMP1isRealbest adaptation so far 🤷🏻

[@literallythegoatfrfr]

@@fusion6497Facts

[@googlymoogly3009]

@@GMP1isRealPretty much every spider man movie isn’t a good adaptation, but they are still good imo

[@mr.spring-miser3034]

to be honest, I'd do what they did with the spectacular symbiote suit, I would have made it almost the same at first pretty much-mimicking peters suit, then slowly transforming it into a more comic-accurate one. almost as if it was trying to help gain Peter's trust by mimicking something it knew was essential to peter. 👀 only to later become something so far removed from what peter & spider-man represent.

[@Columbia0219]

Yessss Spectacular Spider-Man did it perfectly with the black suit

[@an0rmalp3rson70]

That's a pretty spectacular idea dawg

[@Taffee]

I was gonna comment this lol

[@Dockultra]

Literally my exact though.

[@Bored_Overthinker]

And with the spider getting bigger and bigger representing the symbiote getting more and more control over peter. Then, when it's about to wrap around peter, Peter gets rid of the suit. But when Venom shows up, the spider is fully wrapped around, showing that Eddie and the symbiote are truly symbiotic. Sorry, we just love the spectacular spider-man.

[@mega6836]

respectfully disagree with this one, the raimi black suit is so sleek and intimidating. The lack of webs and bigger logo just wouldnt look natural on this version of the costume.

[@itscobrawz]

Same here with all respect the raimi black suit looks so bad ass but yeah I love the classic black suit hopefully we get to see it tom

[@sddlol19]

That and also we would have gotten a bad cgi suit due to the lack of volume.

[@Mr_Gamer-Random]

And the comic symbiote suit is just black + Spiderman lenses + huge, thick legged spider

[@marcelocv786]

L

[@sweatyguy5723]

right, this man a tweaker

[@MandalorYaj117]

I really loved what they did in Spectacular Spider-man in terms of Peter wearing the symbiote. When he first wore it unknowingly it was just black version of the red and blue suit. But the more Pete gets to use it, he gets angrier, and the suit evolves more to that of the Classic Black Suit. I really would love to have that kind of idea transition to live-action.

[@markmagician2471]

Just like the TAS version

[@nofacedgoldfish6216]

@@markmagician2471 No. The Animated Series symbiote suit stayed the same look though out the arc.

[@noahlutzke9456]

Gotta disagree on this one, but I understand why you feel this way. I absolutely LOVE this costume. This is my favorite costume to show up in a Spider-Man movie besides the tasm1 suit.

[@braxton-dobbs1329]

Agreed

[@bradleyheath9029]

It also fits with Peter just assuming it’s just another costume to wear instead of an alien parasite

[@user-nn1fx1nc7e]

I personally think they should have changed the logo but kept literally everything else that way it could still be a custom take and design while also taking slight reference to the source material. Like a perfect balance if you will.

[@MaybeBT]

Agreed

[@michaellabonte6390]

@@user-nn1fx1nc7e agreed. Like how venom had the comic accurate symbol. Just that on the spidey suit would be so awesome

[@justocalderon190]

The suit they have in the movie makes you feel intimidated by just the way it looks. That's why it's one of my favorite suits beside the 1st tasm suit

[@kmaximusconnor3665]

Whether you like the Raimi black suit or not it’s hard to deny that the best thing about it was that awesome music attached to it.

[@Spifel]

Agreed

[@hands_0n543]

Hard disagree, I'm 100% more of an Andrew fan, both TASM 1 and 2 suits are definitely top 3 best spiderman suits for me but, in spot 2 or 3 is the black raimi suit. I adore this suit. It's sleek and empowering in a way. The use of silver not just in the lenses but in the webbing, logo, and even the shiny brick pattern on the suit gives it this feeling that I'm not even sure how to explain. The raimi design works much better in the black suit than the red and blue in my opinion Edit 1, there are a few extra bts shots of the full black (comic accurate) suit and after seeing them, they 100,000% look like a gimp suit. It had the texture of the matte side of a trash bag and you could clearly see the seams. At first I thought it was a stupid cop-out when seeing that first picture but other pictures of it in action show it more of like what Raimi was talking about

[@amazingpsm]

Fair, but you can also see the seams on the black suit in the movie too. I’m not saying they should’ve used the gimp one, I just don’t like the one they use

[@hands_0n543]

@@amazingpsm That's understandable, I understand your points as well, the somewhat unoriginal spider logo was definitely a bummer. But, and with all due respect to the cosplayers (It takes a lot of time to make a great cosplay, trust me, I know), I have not seen a good live action full black suit. Even the new concept for the mcu black suit just looks like he's naked. The webs allow for some breaking up between parts so it doesnt just look like a naked dude that was painted black. Idk I just don't think a black suit has worked irl in my opinion and what we got was badass.

[@ender01o66]

@@amazingpsm what's your opinion on the TASM 1 black suit from the TASM 1 videogame?

[@Gmoney_21]

Tasm 1 suit was so trash but tasm 2 suit was a success

[@hands_0n543]

@@Gmoney_21 Disagree, I loved the Amazing Spider-Man suit. My only real gripe is that the logo sometimes blends into the webbing pattern but even then calling that something "wrong" with the suit is a bit of an overstatement. Everything worked for me, especially in the context of the film. I would say I like it more than the TASM 2 suit because it succeeded in it's changes and strayed away while still keeping the authenticity of spiderman, but I know by saying that many people would Invalidate any other arguments I pose and just be like "Aren't you the dude the liked the TASM suit"

[@jakevaughan8701]

Man, I gotta disagree here. I think the classic black suit is just too simple to directly translate to screen and have it be visually interesting. The Raimi version, while simple, is very effective and I always thought it was one of the sleekest looking live action Spidey suits. The prototype suit shown in photos kinda proves this, its just boring shiny latex. I don't think its very good at all.

[@GregKhar-NU-Metalhead2000]

Nah cmon man u can do line,texture,redesigned symbol?! Cmon y'all been saying these kinda shit "comic accurate costume just doesn't work"

[@tbear8951]

@@GregKhar-NU-Metalhead2000 but they did try to use the original black suit from the comics but they couldn't get the Black rubber and materials they used looked weird or didn't fit with the theme

[@BullyParkerMaguire]

I love Raimi symbiote suit 🖤

[@DoratTheKiller]

I completely agree

[@kizzyynav8233]

Thank you bro this is the most valid explanation bro It also makes sense that it would copy the original suit because the symbiote wants to make Peter trust it and keeping the same symbol wouldn’t change what his suit means to him but by completely changing the suit would make it seem that it would throw away what his original suit meaning and ignore what the symbiote would want to do

[@busdriverguy]

The biggest disappointment for me is that it was treated like a regular suit more than a symbiote attached to him. He rips it off at the end, but it just felt like he could have just taken it off like he had been easily able to before, there wasn't much showing that it was leeched onto him to play up that scene further.

[@Kuso319]

I think it's 100% fine to have spider-man and peter parker to seem like two different people, that's the point. Spider-Man is talkative and outgoing. Peter...is not. Peter is a different person when he's Spider-Man, except morally, but it's supposed to represent that Peter is entirely different. I think the Raimi suit does great at that and I believe that all 3 of the Tobey Spider-Man suits come in 2nd, 3rd, and 4th best looking on screen spidey suits (only behind the Amazing Spider-Man 2 suit) as well as the Tobey Maguire trilogy being my favorite in general.

[@OverX6time]

It shows

[@Kuso319]

@@OverX6time yes, I did attempt to make it clear. I'm glad it was

[@Mrhostil95]

Yeah, also a detail people overlook is that Tobey speaks in a lower register with more bravado when he's Spidey throughout the films, showing that he feels more confident as Spider-Man. So the suit perfectly illustrates the contrast perfectly.

[@TheTwistedTreant526]

Sure, but Tobey's Spider-Man was neither Talkative or Outgoing lmao

[@kaijuslayer3334]

@@Mrhostil95 Makes sense, everything becomes easier to be more confident when you have a mask and superpowers you can show without concern.

[@DrFranklynAnderson]

I created essentially the Spider-Man 3 black suit as a kid playing around with Photoshop in around 2005. I remember wanting to see what an “evil Spider-Man” would look like, and couldn’t decided if the eyes should be white or black-or how to change the eyes to black in Photoshop.

[@pedrocampos691]

What.

[@djnate1075]

I completely, respectfully, disagree on this take. I always thought the classic black suit was boring. It was just black with barely any white, only the logos, eyes, and fists had any white on them. It was a terrible contrast to the Amazing classic suit. The classic black suit failed to contrast the og classic Spidey suit, and it was a boring design that could've used more color. I love the Spiderman 3 black suit, Raimi and his team made it interesting, cool, and contrasts the classic Raimi Spidey suit perfectly. As much as I still love both classic and Raimi suits, Raimi's version is more appealing. I really hope in the next Tom Holland movie, after No Way Home, they design a great classic black suit. Other than that, great video, I just disagree on your take.

[@ender01o66]

the original black suit had red in it too, but they changed it to be white

[@djnate1075]

@@ender01o66 I think that was a better choice, because deadpool has red In his suit, and deadpool already looks very similar to spidey. And carnage would later be red, so white was a better choice. They should have used more white tho

[@ender01o66]

@@djnate1075 I mean, the original fan concept for the suit looked like that, and this was before the black widow suit existed, same with carnage however, they brought it back in absolute carnage, the big red spider logo

[@djnate1075]

@@ender01o66 If ur talking about the dark suit, I'd say that is a way better suit design than the symbiote classic suit.

[@ender01o66]

@@djnate1075 ah, maybe

[@Pedro_Marangon]

When talking about black suit adaptations, I really like how Spectacular Spider Man's version works (would be cool to see something like that in Raimi's SM3), where at the start is a black version of the red&blue suit but as time goes on and Peter starts to get more and more affected by the symbiote the suit slowly becomes the comic accurate version

[@himynameiskobey.7994]

Never been so early. I'm assuming this means that your making a series for every movie suit because I need more character design content from you since I just love listening to what you think about these suits.

[@bctalicorn809]

One of my favorite things about Spectacular Spider-Man was that for the venom saga of episodes it started out looking like the suit in Spider-Man 3 and then as it began to take more control, it became the suit from the comics, getting rid of a little webbing here and there and making the logo larger bit by bit, scene by scene. I just absolutely LOVE that idea, and there is NO mention of the suit changing at all, it's just visual story-telling and taking advantage of the medium of an episodic series. Plus in doing so, it's paying homage to the Raimi movies AND how it traditionally looks. Spectacular just SLAPS man.

[@ItsMando]

Very nice swinging, the four year anniversary map is great and works pretty damn well with the rain and black suit

[@josueismad6778]

I like how in spectacular Spider-Man the symbiote suit is just the normal suit but black, but overtime as peter’s mind gets more and more corrupted the suit transforms into the iconic one we know and love.

[@Albino_Basilisk]

Personally, I think the suit we got is the way to go. A full on black suit is way too simple for live-action, and it leaves it looking like naked black body paint. This can even be seen with the mcu concept art of a black suit Tom Holland. They added like a bunch of white swirls (veins) breaking throughout the whole body, which I guess makes it look alien, but I thought the black suit was trying to disguise itself as clothing/a suit, not give away that it’s a living alien cus that’s what lead to Peter taking it off. The only change I would make to the Spider-Man 3 black suit is to give it the classic symbiote logo, but keep everything else the same.

[@MsMaydayGoingDown]

I LOVE how they used both the Raimi and original black suit designs in Spectacular Spider-Man to show his progression with the symbiote. As you said, the Raimi design is just a black red-and-blue suit (albeit a bit more menacing I think), which is cleverly made Spidey's first black suit look in Spectacular to show it hasn't drastically affected him yet; he's still the same, just with difference in appearance and power. But then as the suit starts to corrupt him you slowly see the Raimi-isms like the webbing disspear while the logo morph into the comic logo. The comic suit was seen as a drastic departure from his original back when it was introduced, so using it to show the growing shift in his character was brilliant. This utilized the Raimi suit concept insanely better and saves it for me. I wish the movie did the same. I get they wouldn't want to make multiple black costumes, but they could've had the logo at least change into the comics' logo. Also I think the silver webbing should've been made bright white, would've creating a more striking black-and-white like the comics, but I guess it wouldn't have looked good on Venom

[@stanfordfeynman2796]

Given how integral the raised webbing is to the image of Raimi Spidey, I can't really imagine a black suit looking right without it. He'd simply look too "naked" compared to his previous 2002 and 2004/2007 suits. That said, the fact that they still managed to give the iconic symbiote logo to Venom but not Peter is such a kick in the teeth. That general logo shape is way more iconic than any lack of webbing could be, ESPECIALLY seen from a distance. If that iconic logo was just added to the front and the back logo stayed the same (I like the Raimi black suit logo, so I'd like to keep it), then the design would feel a lot more true to the source material. Ideally, I think a good middle-ground blueprint for live-action spidey has already been established, and that would be the second black suit in the Spectacular Spider-Man show. The front logo is clearly mimicking the iconic black suit we know, the back logo is a warped version of the classic suit's, and there's still webbing to have good balancing of white to black without the design looking too naked or too busy

[@humanman9920]

I don't think it needs to look even near completely accurate , if it works and is good in its own right , it's good , it was really supposed to be a new suit to Peter till the changes started becoming more clear to him , and it works well that the logo doesn't instantly change to Venom's , but changes a bit , and is changed completely till the point it gets to Eddie .

[@telophasemusic]

"This is something else." I love the Black Raimi suit tbh. As a kid i felt like it was a lazy palette swap, but the dark contrast of black fabric and the raised webbing really pops

[@CoolerCool350]

To sum up your seven minutes: "I don't like the suit."

[@MysticEclipzed]

in my opinion it looks very intimidating which is why i like it, the sharp eyes look really good imo and the webbing just looks great

[@Utonian21]

I like the idea of the Symbiote mimicking his suit, so it's not so noticable that he has an alien lifeform on him. I also love the fact that Tobey Maguire actually looked intimidating in it, (which was a huge accomplishment, lbh)

[@josephfigueroa3527]

The symbiote adapts to what you're already wearing, so it would make sense that the raised webs would be on the Black suit. It wouldn't make sense to have the white squares because Peter already has organic webbing, and the suit, for the most part, doesn't change your body's makeup but enhances it. I can agree that the spider emblem could've been made in a different way so as to look more classic, but when you break down the symbiote and suit design, it's the smartest design that fits in that universe. Whether we like it or not.

[@sras5056]

I feel like the theme of the suit and his first tim wearing it were what rly made me love the suit

[@justsomecheezyguy]

Finally someone who agrees with me. I personally have always had a problem with the raimi black suit not being comic accurate. But the suit on its own looks really cool and sleek. I just wish they pulled more from the sauce material the suit was based off of. Hopefully the MCU does the symbiote suit justice for the next trilogy.

[@Duckman_Drake]

Yeah I mostly agree. As a representation of the symbiotic suit I think it doesn’t work that well. Isolated as just “a black suit spider-man design” Though, I think it looks sleek as fuck and I really like it because of that.

[@Jiub_SN]

It works better then the prototype shown in this video, though. Maybe just adding the symbionts symbol on the front would fix it, but going to close to the classic looks too bland and is too big of a leap from the raimi classic suit

[@QUINOVIN]

FINALLY A NEW DISSECTION! love your channel, and it helps that i also agree with all of your opinions

[@DigitalRag3X]

The suit reminded me of venom from the May Day Parker M2 comics and I loved Old Peter as that version of Venom

[@Jellerby04]

cant wait to watch you have a breakdown while dissecting the mcu’s suits😂discovered your channel literally an hour ago and watched your first raimi suit vid, then got part 2 straight away!

[@amazingpsm]

I'd recommend the Fortnite vid if youd like more design dissections!

[@Littlemonks214]

I honestly don't get why they didn't just use Venom's suit for Peter, but with just no mouth, and maybe stick with Peter's signature lenses for the black suit. Like they complain about it looking like a gimp suit, bet then do it anyways with Venom but with added details?

[@willisthadogsbollucks2677]

I heard another reason to this redesign is that producer thought the symbiote changing into a slick and slim costume with a completely diffferent logo would of made the goo seem like it has a fashion sense so they wanted something that mimics the original

[@person-in4ip]

I do love the rami black suit, for the exact reasons you mentioned actually but this is also a great video, very fair

[@Vintagesonic1]

I don't know, man. I think it's perfect for a live-action film. I really don't feel like having a comic-accurate suit would fit in live action. It's too jarring. I feel like it makes sense in a way, since the symbiote appears to be imitating the red and blue suit, whilst also representing power, with its all-black design. That's just me, though.

[@Legion849]

The problem with the Sam Raimi black suit is that they treat it like a normal suit which Peter takes off at the end. That's lazy they couldn't even bother giving Peter the symbiote logo Venom got his one

[@gildedgliam6727]

They could've just used the design for Venom but for Spider-Man, add on the Spider-Man eyes and remove the mouth and bingo, then just use a different design for Venom

[@Jiub_SN]

@@gildedgliam6727except that wouldn't look good. Look up the prototype where they did just that, you can't sit here and tell me it looks good. It does just look like a gimp suit

[@Jiub_SN]

@@Legion849that's how it was in the comics, the symbiont pretends to be a cloth suit and takes advantage of Peter, just like this does. I think it looking this way makes sense and works a lot better then what you're suggesting

[@psychoninja84]

I feel the webbing and fine fine fitting of the suit makes the symbiote feel more like a suit instead of an alien

[@Barckah]

It's refreshing to see someone criticize the Raimi Trilogy as opposed to hailing it as God's work. Nicely done, really enjoyed the video

[@aamen1534]

Well because you're basically not a fan of Tobey lol

[@unknownuser5299]

I gotta say I hated how they made it a suit instead of a simbiote covering up his body in seconds just like venom

[@ryangem1492]

This is a very interesting take on the suits, I really like this

[@KYCDK]

spiderman 2 and 3 are tied in first place for me for 2 very different reasons spiderman 2 is a perfect film about stress and managing respinsibilities, it's like hell bent in doctor who, but instead of grief, it's about stress, how it can make you seem powerless, it can overwhelm your life and by the end of the movie he has it under controll, he opens up about his stress to MJ spiderman 3 is a goofy hilarious movie that has the most quotable linbes and is incredibly fun to watch, delves into the cheesyness of spiderman and makes it a fun watch, and doesn't take itself too seriously which is why TASM 2 failed, that movie took it'self way too seriously where spiderman 3 is a goofy movie and became a silly movie, but still has mature themes in it and the sandman scene too

[@marvellousprime9445]

We have the exact same taste in spider-man suit designs

[@traktor420]

Honestly agree, I think the el fett black suit is just a better design, the one we got is effectively a recolour with some slight adjustments

[@TheTurdle]

Bro finally someone who agrees with me on this. All the Raimi trilogy stans keep saying it's so beautiful. Just having a splash of black paint on the suit overall lessens the impact of the symbiote taking Peter.

[@sol.613]

it is literally one of if not the best suit in the movies of all Spider-Man,TASM, and MCU

[@G31M1]

I definitely get your point but man that outfit looks so badass, I love it!

[@kenshin6804]

You could also argue that the reason it's so menacing IS that Peter Parker is geeky. Or that it reflects him trying to feel "strong" as someone who's been stepped on and bullied his whole life, I or anyone else could go way more in depth on that idea but you get my general point. That's what I like to think, at least.

[@williamsimmons4498]

I love how once the symbiote bonded to Eddie Brock, the spider logo changed to become venom's Signature logo and retain the webbing around the suit, like how I always thought of what venom is, a twisted version of spider-man, people give venom crap for not being a big and muscular, though I do think they could have made him slightly beefier, I liked his design nonetheless.

[@dignusdingus3709]

I think you'd have liked to see something like the Lotus suit for Tobey. That retains some of the qualities of the Raimi suit while being far morr Ditko. I imagine it'd suit him very well

[@malikmoss5519]

Oh god. The lotus suit is so trash lol stop giving it life

[@mottom2657]

@@malikmoss5519 Are you criticizing that suit just because of Lotus' crew members being involved in racism? Then the way of your criticism is incorrect. The 1967 Hammond suit is worse than the Lotus one.

[@TheMamaluigi300]

Honestly I think part of why it was so similar to the standard suit was probably so they could cut costs producing it. The suit was really only in 3 scenes tops in the theatrical cut.

[@mrkaji8913]

I do like how they adapted the story

[@kayshawn.]

thank you for putting the song in the beginning

[@craigthebrute8932]

You have to understand they didn't just go for the classic black suit, not only because it looked like a porn suit, it also was because it was to hard to see at night scenes so its reasonable why the crew didn't go for that directions. But if i have to redesign it, i would just keep the Raimi black suit just as it is, but replacing the front spider logo with the classic big Venom emblem and keeping the spider logo on the back.

[@yahned]

as somebody who grew up with these movies, but not the comics... I used to think this was a cooler concept. It feels like the symbiote actually just covers HIS suit & turns it black

[@generalred6260]

Finally someone had the balls to say it, and I agree. I get Rami's reasoning for it was aliens don't have fashion sense, but this is a fucking comic movie 😅

[@TheOtakuNinja69]

Finally someone else agrees with me that the “Symbiote” Suit in S-M3 is basically the red & blue suit dyed black.

[@SpeedDemon55]

I hope to see a classic Symbiote suit someday similar to the Ultimate suit

[@SpeedDemon55]

Also I love this costume it looks beautiful

[@Jaegerhunter]

I love the raimi black suit, so obviously people are entitled to their own opinions, but you also gotta keep in mind that Sam raimi didn’t know anything about venom nor did he like the character and was forced to put him in the movie which when he did it didn’t come out so well to lots of Spider-Man fans which is probably the reason we don’t have a Spider-Man 4

[@Sky_ral]

Love your content, it’s always informative.

[@TSU_PIA]

Dude i dont care about your opinion, the raimis spiderman black suit was awsome and beautiful! I‘m so happy that the design is how it is on the raimi spiderman black suit.

[@saffy4952]

Well considering how Venom was originally never meant to be in Spider-Man 3, it makes total sense how the black suit was just, colorless original suit.

[@remymunyao3712]

The thing that would add to this black suit is a blue tint and the original sign of the black suit with webbing which would be nice

[@Lonelyweirdo96]

For the time the suit was a great look. I think we only feel comfortable going back and poking holes in the design because we've had so many other iterations that follow more closely to the comics. We have to remember that as far as the states were concerned this was the first time Spider-Man had ever been shown on the big screen. The first draft of anything is usually garbage but in Spider-Man's case it's the exact opposite... Venom was ass tho

[@brian_cipher5078]

I personally had my introduction to anything Spider-Man related via the raimi trilogy. and let me tell ya as a kid, and even now when I rewatch them all at once, that first reveal with him goin "where am I?" because venom had control for a bit, and the music. idk it just makes me love it so much more than any other.

[@Craig7192]

Raimi suit part 2!? After watching: yeah I agree its a pallet swap with tiny menacing touches added to it, as an ALIEN suit it's not it.

[@trip6noheart]

It’s good because at least we got this design and now later other people can bring the comic accurate one or their own iteration.

[@CTN71]

I like both and I’m always gonna have nostalgia for the Spider-Man 3 version

[@PizzaTimeGuy]

Idk, i like this suit. I like both of them. The way i look at it, is as if the suit has a mind of its own and copies his suit to change into something that peter can recognise and doesn't want to scare him or make peter think that the symbiote is a threat to him. Because the goal of the symbiote is to stay bonded as long as possible with his host after all.

[@joonnoob3119]

I honestly think the Black suit in the Raimi trilogy works for it’s universe. Keeping the web pattern from the og costume was a neat idea and that it leads to a “corrupted/messy” web pattern on Venom was a cool and original touch. But, even as a kid, I wondered why they couldn’t at least still give him a more accurate logo: make it larger, white, and the legs stretched outwards.

[@LKASTI]

I know this video is about the black suit, but I have a grievance about the beginning talking about the red and blue Raimi suit. So, to summarize, the Raimi suit doesn't represent Peter because he is geeky, and the Ditko suit does a better job representing this characteristic. What is it about the Raimi costume specifically that makes it not "nerdy" and what is it specifically about the Ditko costume that does make it represent Raimi Peter better? There is no actual examining done in this video to backup your opinions. Not saying it isn't a valid opinion or you shouldn't have that opinion, I'm just confused.

[@user-jy8it8tl4d]

Actually they did make a comic book black suit but I don’t know why they scraped it.

[@jacksonbess245]

So what your saying is that the suit is “Brilliant but lazy.”

[@itsjustaadru9304]

Totally agree, Everyone seems to disagree with you, but the suit used isnt the ICONIC SYMBIOTE SUIT, its a totally different design so it cant be compared to the comics

[@a.i.nighthawk3499]

APSM when Sm3 suit: ew no APSM when someone makes the same suit but with no raised webbing: HELL YEAH ILL TAKE YOUR ENTIRE STOCK

[@goateditss]

after spider-man 2, i absolutely love what they did with the suit (quite similar to spectacular spider-man), with the way it starts as a black version of his own suit (just missing webs and patterns) and it slowly turns into a more violent and rough design. i also love how that suit is also the symbiote surge suit, because we can tell that peter loses himself and goes full venom for a few moments during symbiote surge

[@veggsbacon1891]

The raimi symbiote suit is basically a "another fighter color pallette option." Neat, but it's there.

[@bluexhunter3025]

I’m convinced, I still like the suit, and kinda wish I could wear it in the pa4 Spider-Man game, maybe the next one. But I do understand what you mean, a classic black suit was a big missed opportunity for 2007 or 8, the symbiote logo definitely made it different enough to be iconic

[@OpticBlast-yk5hf]

The raimi symbiote suit looks like a stealth version of the original.

[@bulbafett5787]

The reason that he had silver webs is because at the time red was extremely difficult color to film. So they had to add the silver to contrast and help the camera see the suit.

[@GatlinsFuckinCornfield]

I wish they would've just put the original symbiote logo on the black suit. it would've made venom look like a corrupted version of Spider-Man.

[@Kumo0toko]

Good thing I see majority of people on here disagreeing cause the tobey suits are easily one of or the greatest spiderman suit of all time (imo)

[@bennittotheburrito9606]

Notice how people have no arguments

[@tobypate3191]

​@@bennittotheburrito9606 the lines, logo, and mask look better

[@bennittotheburrito9606]

@@tobypate3191 how?

[@kurokoro]

"I dont like the black suit" "I wanna put some dirt in your eye... "

[@samueljohnson9371]

It's okay my guy. You have an opinion and you are passionate about it 👍

[@dead_memelol]

I love this costume, tbh. I get the points, but This is the first suit I can think of that added the webbing to it, which makes it stand out more than the original symbiote suit, which is ironic because the design of the symbiote suit stands out from the original. this costume in the movie it's self was showed off like a black spider-man suit, cause instead of the symbiote going away on command, he simply just takes off his mask, despite it not even touching the original suit or at least the mask, which he takes off normally, but when there's sound, it decides to act like an alien goo creature taking over a man. this movie isn't the best, but the comedy, the action, it's screams "i'm messing up a trilogy because avi arad is pressuring me to put in a character i don't even care for in to an already thought out movie, but that won't stop me for making it my movie." Spider-Man 3 is a welcomed addition to the trilogy in my eyes, idk about anyone else

[@HappyDayZ0]

i havent watched the video but in the spiderman games if they dont have really cool new AND old costumes from spiderman ps4, like the andrew, tom and tobey suit with a choice to be black when venom is attached to you (if thats what will happen, either way we need black variants) im literally gonna cry because it was be a gigantic missed opportunity to make your fanbase extremely happy with just minimum effort with a black colour change

[@snehilsingh5910]

i disagree..... for me raimi black suit is the coolest and badass suit ever in the spiderman history. the raimi design works so well in black suit . that agressive spiderman symbol on his chest is freeking cool

[@lucyferos205]

I felt the same way when I was a kid, but the Raimi black suit has grown on me. I think it actually makes more sense than the one in the comics if the symbiote is trying to replicate Spider-Man's costume

[@malikaminor]

That wine when he switched to the black suit 100% got me lmao

[@mewtube47]

Even tho it could come off as lazy, I personally think it makes sense to just have a black version of the normal costume with a few changes to signify that it is a different suit

[@youtucraft5554]

6:02 This is the thing i like the Spiderman 3 symbiote suit because that was my introduction to symbiote spiderman

[@agentofchaos145]

"I don't like this suit because its a recolor" "I missed the part where that's my problem"

[@fandomcultures]

Awesome video!

[@nofacedgoldfish6216]

The best adaptation of the black suit in my opinion is the one in Spectacular Spider-Man. Each episode had changes, starting from a black version of his red and blue suit, and ending with the classic black suit, which symbolizes the more control the suit had over Peter, losing what made him who he is, and slowly turning into Venom.

[@Vishnu_Karthik]

Back in the day they didn't have the CGI or Practical SFX to make the lenses emote like in the comics. So, the lenses had to be stuck in one default expression and so they picked a menacing look. This is where TASM suits failed, the eyes just don't convey an emotional expression end up feeling emotionally blank. I'll also defend the Raimi Black suit, perhaps its just nostalgia but i love it. It makes sense because the symbiote just copied the one peter was wearing with some slight mistakes like the spider-logo looking a bit crooked. Also, the marketing with the black suit was crazy back in the 2007. If you were a kid in 2007, it was the coolest damn thing ever. The poster of SP3 black suit is still legendary, idk if the comic accurate suit would hit that hard.

[@f7or1n]

Here is the thing, The Raimiverse never was meant to look accurate but to have accurate events, every character has its own original design like spiderman, venom, ock and the 2 goblins, i dont say sandman because he is pretty much the same as the comics. The Black Suit was made long before the Venom suit was made, if they made it after im sure it would've had the same logo that venom had but the planning and schedule messed up stuff.

[@NEWahn]

I think it might've been worth mentioning that when Eddie gets the suit, it ends up looking slightly closer to the comics suit, such as having a more classic emblem.

[@tristanchuey]

My thing about this suit, is that if it looked too much like a gimp suit. Why just give us the webbing and the classic logo instead. They basically did that with venom

[@obsith]

Did you see the concept art for Tom's symbiote suit? I hope they keep that design for when the costume actually appears in a movie because it's a great adaptation of the original design

[@doktorweedus7659]

The Raimi suit is my favorite it looks so amazingly simple but different

[@Squidgyy_]

this costume is an instant 11/10>>>>>

[@bruh10246]

I can't take anything seriously after 4:56 . The bg music just made me do the meme what