The Disturbing Reality of Cobalt Mining for Rechargeable Batteries

[@robertfan332]

This is one of the best examples of what JRE can do to bring awareness to issues that are purposefully swept under the rug.

[@JACMAN02]

Fucking rights man. That's some heavy shit I'm so unconscious to. All we can do is vote with our money

[@karlnapp7564]

99% of people of the world don't give a shit and sadly i have to say, i am one of them.

[@dylanpilcheruniverse6515]

Srsly this wasn’t even on my radar and it’s horrific

[@dylanpilcheruniverse6515]

We need to think about every step of our supply chain and re invent it for future generations

[@dawidmurray]

Joe is close with Elon Musk, he could certainly raise this and ask for change. If Elon/Tesla made public statements about this issue and working to a solution to stop it happening, it would then put pressure on every other company to 'PR' their stance as well.

[@RealTalkWithRoadMan]

As an African, I appreciate your effort & commitment to the truth Sir. Siddaharth Kara

[@joshuagibson2520]

Where do you live in Africa?

[@TwoFingeredMamma]

I see Indians building rain catchments in their thousands to bring green back to the soil. Get these same men and do the same thing. Its amazing what can be achieved without machinery. In the west we have no jobs, the machines have taken over. The West is nothing but corporate slavery and it still covertly controls Africa through the ownership of Corporations and control of puppet leaders. Babylon is nearing its death throws, thank heavens..

[@RealTalkWithRoadMan]

@@joshuagibson2520 Im originally from Nigeria living in New Zealand for the past 10 years. I try to keep myself updated with the continent that I call him as much as possible till I get a chance to go back. Hearing what Siddaharth reveals about the Congo cobalt situation breaks my Heart because I now know that due to my "Tech Consumerism", I am adding to the problem my Congolese brothers and sisters in the mines are going through right now. I need to make some ....CORRECTION- I MUST MAKE SOME LIFESTYLE CHANGES!

[@joshuagibson2520]

@@RealTalkWithRoadMan I feel ya brother. We're all complicit in one way or another and we need to make some changes. Greetings from your hillbilly friend in Tennessee, USA.

[@OfficialGOD]

Yeah they keep messing with Africa

[@Dougie1969]

You can just tell, what this man witnessed is still haunting him.

[@brett4264]

I noticed that too. It really makes this sink into your soul when he speaks of what he's seen.

[@aubree455]

God Bless him for exposing this evil. What can we do?

[@Sal3600]

when westerners see something thats been the norm in other countries for years

[@timothyandrewnielsen]

It was just people digging. He's a wussy.

[@palmeristo]

@@aubree455 not voting for rich people, stop listening to the news, get off social media. That's a start, but there's so much out of everyone's control. Too little too late.

[@gemrpt26]

This is the closet thing to a perfect podcast I have ever listended to. 1. Important subject matter 2. A guest with first hand experience who was able to articulate important information in an easy to understand way. 3. A combination of a great communicator and a great listener. They stayed on the subject matter, a balance of facts and emotion. I hope something gets done and the world take notice.

[@mattiarubio3240]

Both of them speak so well, they use satisfying vocabulary but it isn’t too complicated like jordan peterson

[@buildingdreams2279]

Say"EH WAS NAILED TO THE CROSS WITH A CROWN OF THORNS! OH WAS TO THE LEFT AND UH RIGHT. PEOPLE FROM ANOTHER PLANET ARE TRYING TO TAKE OVER EARTH WITH CIRCUMCISION AND EARRINGS! GOD WAS CIRCUMCISED"

[@NAY2GAS]

Unfortunately, Some of Siddharth's point were not correct. EVs use only 10% of the world's batteries. The other 90% is used in things we all use every day. Your car, even though it takes Gasoline, has parts that were made using Cobalt. Your tires have Cobalt in them, your Airbags have Cobalt in them, the paint on your car has Cobalt in it. Everyone is complicit. We all use Cobalt, It's not just Electric Vehicles.

[@ericfarina3935]

Nothing will be done. Marketing is just another form of propaganda, and these people have millions of data points on each and every one of us with algorithms that can predict our behavior down to the minute with 99+% accuracy. They know exactly when and how to push our buttons, and we lack the will to break free.

[@ericfarina3935]

​@@NAY2GAS​It seems you misunderstood his point. What he said specifically, is that the projected increase in demand for electric vehicles is projected to drive growth in demand for cobalt in the coming decades. He also used the specific example that an EV battery uses 10 KG of refined cobalt, which is about 1000 times what a cell phone battery requires.

[@jordanselemani9860]

I am a Congolese living in Seattle and I appreciate the effort that joe put in place to shade light on this tragic reality that is happening in my country. It’s very sad that people are enjoying the fruit of child labor who are not even suppose to be working and the world is not doing anything

[@pearljameric]

Why can't the Congolese set better conditions for their people?

[@williamking9707]

And all while acting morally superior for "doing their part" by driving a 100,000 dollar tesla...

[@Jianju69]

Part of the problem is this: Big American companies, e.g. Apple, go to Chinese manufacturers and lay out rules for production, e.g. "no artisanal miners". Those Chinese manufacturers then go and do whatever they want, ignoring all the rules to save a buck. When Apple finds out, they say, "Hey, we said no artisanal miners!" Those managers of these Chinese manufacturing firms say, "What? You were SERIOUS about that??" At this point, even if Apple immediately starts changing plans to avoid using these corrupt manufacturers, it still takes them three years to change course, finding new manufacturers, due to being such a huge organization.

[@simeondunev4890]

Youre probably also using a smartphone tho

[@alanmacdonald1457]

@@simeondunev4890 whats your point...you can't blame the consumer when the product has become a necessity in life

[@saltycanadian6190]

As a mechanic I’ve been educated on this since 2014. No one would listen too me, I’m just a mechanic who fixes tractor trailers.

[@stevrgrs]

The older you get the more you realize that the population is nuts. Even JRE podcasts, Lex fridman, Jordan peterson etc are only watched by a relative few. People see millions of subscribers and don't bother to think that these top guys are only reaching 10 % of the population of the US at BEST.

[@hlmoore8042]

People only hear what they WANT to hear. No one is listening any more.

[@Acemobilesuit]

Mechanic here agreed unfortunately once you get a higher pay grade it’s seems the lessers are forgotten

[@bertkilborne6464]

Until the MSM gets the story and the information become a part of their news feed. Then they'll be repeating it like parrots and people will never forget it until the next news story shows up.

[@jakerose1203]

@@hlmoore8042 True

[@ayaNjah]

Well said and done Sir. Thank you for shedding more light on this sorely underreported, massive human rights and environmental horrors.

[@blank1778]

Then stop pushing green cars and energy. Here’s the short story it’s not green at all

[@itsalllies4102]

This is caused by ignorant sheeple, corrupt government and coprporations and planned obsolescence.

[@outlander234]

@@blank1778 Not obly that but there is no signs they are going to recycle these minerals at all. Tesla claims it will but once you dig deeper the batteries arent even designed to be recycled easily, it uses alot of glues, it can be only done by producing toxic waste either by dipping in the axid or burning it all off. Now imagine when millions of these massi e batteries start coming back for recycling because Tesla guaranteed they will pick them up, they didnt say they will actaully recycle them. Just think of hoq much toxic waste is goibg to be produced and dumped where?

[@aycarambas]

In other words, thanks but I dont care. Wheres my phone charger?

[@ryansr1343]

Nobody’s going to do anything about anything. There’s a new chicken sandwich coming out……

[@1Grumpymonk]

When I was a kid, I thought of heroes physically fighting off evil and being seemingly invincible. This man is a true hero! Not invincible, no weapons and no fighting. That's utterly terrifying. The bravery something like this must take is outstanding. Thank you for your service, be safe! 😅

[@ianjohngonzales4066]

Yes, Heroes comes in many forms.

[@buildingdreams2279]

Say"EH WAS NAILED TO THE CROSS WITH A CROWN OF THORNS! OH WAS TO THE LEFT AND UH RIGHT. PEOPLE FROM ANOTHER PLANET ARE TRYING TO TAKE OVER EARTH WITH CIRCUMCISION AND EARRINGS! GOD WAS CIRCUMCISED"

[@shikony]

I had same thoughts too when I was a kid

[@yonikki]

His weapon is TRUTH ... and the JRE platform.

[@DeckofLies]

When I was a kid I was having sex with my couch so props to you

[@wethenorth269]

This guy is genuinely a good human being. We need more investigative journalism like this.

[@pistonburner6448]

Don't focus on the person, focus on the facts. Even if he provides us with valuable facts, he still used marxist key vocabulary like "agitation" so always beware of worshipping people. There's no need for it. Could be that he used those words innocently, could be that he has marxism in his background or planned future activities.

[@joewood2868]

@@pistonburner6448 a little paranoid maybe?

[@RupertWins]

UK has a huge child abuse problem. They threw me in prison for nosing around it.

[@Shuffffff]

@@pistonburner6448 is nobody else allowed to use that word? Weirdo.

[@interovic]

@@pistonburner6448 So after listening to a guy basically show you how a capitalist system NEEDS to function (by mining cobalt using slave labor), you are worried about a random word that is linked with "marxism" and that's what's truly horrible and needs paying attention to?

[@sean_connors]

This is a perfect example of how humanity is destroying itself through hypocrisy.

[@johnsbackwithcommonsense7628]

Greed is.

[@getstuk87]

Cobalt is difficult to fix. Diamonds are not. A higher priority should be doing away with the silly societal norms that we do like paying a wildly falsely inflated price for a mineral that is not rare to show our significant other how much we love them by supporting an industry like we're seeing in this video. We should start there first. Not with cobalt because if we can't even shame our friends for buying a potential "blood diamond" then why tf would you think cobalt, a necessity, is going to change. It's not.

[@scottf5791]

@@getstuk87 I didn’t mean to laugh at this comment but the absurdity you highlighted was too great. Well said and very true indeed. I use to work for a jeweler at my local mall. The customers that would come in to our store were the most pretentious and petty self indulgent people I have ever known. I left after a few months and glad I did. Knowing how and where these diamonds come from made me question my morals. It’s like Las Vegas. It’s all a facade. A veneer of spectacle to draw people in only to find out the dark truth beneath the surface. The problem is no one ever looks.

[@ThineLesser]

@@getstuk87 how is Cobalt a necessity?

[@ThineLesser]

@Basado Americano the Dems and their cobalt mining slaves ✊🏿

[@whitneymacdonald4396]

I went from this to the whole interview on Spotify. Incredible. I'm stunned by the work Kare has done. Rogan takes a lot of heat but I haven't seen anyone else giving this air time. Much appreciated. Siddharth Kara is a really brave man. This man's voice needs to be heard.

[@ThroatGoatNancy]

Same and well said 👏

[@poolie-mag8282]

Definitely going to listen to more of this guy before the big tech companies inevitably try and silence him

[@rebuttalc2075]

He takes alot of heat for a reason. People dont want the truth being told. His guests come from all walks so there is no reason for him to receive the hate he does plus he is pretty open minded

[@markmiller8903]

Just finished Cobalt Red book. This is the most heart wrenching thing I've ever heard. And I've read about ship breaking, modern slavery, etc.

[@Kabodanki]

@@rebuttalc2075joe rogan has a lot of bad sides, they are well known, like when he’s cornered, he weasel his way out. But for sure sometimes he invites good people

[@nathanbismarck491]

I’m from the Eastern Congo and nobody could expose this misery better. Thank You Joe for exposing this!

[@danceyrselfkleen]

It’s crazy how people just lie in KZbin comments like it’s nothing

[@gracelynnblack]

@@danceyrselfkleen elaborate....

[@mikeandroid3512]

I’m from eastern Congo too and I concur ….oh no wait I’m in eastern Canada. Never mind.

[@ColonelMetus]

You belong in a mine you dirty savage

[@magloire3]

@@danceyrselfkleen Well as a Congolese this is common knowledge to us and we have try but our government is corrupt to the core we can’t do shit. Add that with the current war going on with M23

[@castanedadennis8750]

What's really insane is these resources are exactly what's responsible for bringing you this information

[@AnusheelSharma]

Because truth can't hide it self and a lie is always naked, they never thought the same device that they use for mind control will start to expose them.

[@charleshess5654]

You...are so right. But let us use this "power" to make greater changes in our world.

[@alanssnack1192]

@@AnusheelSharma there is no they

[@kevinfrancis4255]

Where is BLM when these poor black folk need them most?!

[@itscrystalbill]

I don't think that's the insane part, what's insane is that nothing will change. This video will age, along with the generations that now rely on cobolt fueled technology.

[@NeverPayPig]

This man is a true journalist. Sad, gone are the days when they would travel to to the problem. Today, people and major news stations are buying stories.

[@Joes_Morgue]

I think a true journalist would tell you that Cobalt is also necessary for the production of gasoline. It is necessary to refine the crude oil.

[@KimStrandberg93]

What? Some of the biggest news you see come from freelance. Nothing wrong with that. Good journalists can get 150-300k $ for a good story. Atleast. Sidartha is a well paid journalist, in advance. He makes good shit gets good pay and opportunities.

[@simranlikesthe6221]

@@Joes_Morgue I think he already touched the point where cobalt is vital to our society today.

[@phuckyoutube5927]

Yeah true journalism didn't do a thing but wrote a booka nd made some money though. 😂💀 And you ate it up hook line and sinker bet you already have the book in your Amazon cart.

[@kevinweltje4604]

Remember when Joe saw a boxing match and thought it was a dad beating up his son and talking about how messed up it was? Well turns out he got that completely wrong and it was instead a match at creator clash. True journalism

[@Scottiedowawa]

Siddharth is a brave man for making it in to the lives, writing a book and publicly taking about this. Well done for exposing this.

[@AdrianKetter]

He’s probably gonna commit suicide if he Doesnt shut up

[@Jacoby-cq4kq]

We need more people like this guy on da show. Very impactful

[@elitecol69]

@@sentolt7460 He won't, he's still busy learning how the word 'the' is spelt..

[@kenrehill8775]

@@elitecol69 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@23Butanedione]

@@sentolt7460 not to mention any work we did to change the landscape would be totally undone by China in a second. Also if it's not cobalt with Africa it's just going to be something else... It's almost like until Africans decide to grow up and take responsibility for their crappy decisions they're bound to repeat

[@thelmeno]

It’s informative to say the least

[@zacharydonofrio7118]

Love it!

[@ConstitutionCurt]

People freaked out about straws but still will have a blind eye to this reality.

[@brushstroke3733]

People are selfish, self-centered, and unconcerned about anything beyond personal status and the stuff they use to escape being alone with themselves. People could be so much better, but they are mostly ignorant, stressed sheep driven by fear and insecurity.

[@spotsaprahoosheberne642]

They (it’s not a correction to you) iykyk

[@yoma2977]

@diracsea i think it's called people not being altruistic as soon as it's an inconvenience to them

[@j101-d1q]

There's also a narrative involved. Big tech leans to one political direction. This is their lifeblood.

[@James-gr5mx]

china owns 80% of the mines in the congo. crazy why would you sell a valuable resource to make yourself rich but not your country

[@ZanarGaming]

Omg that's shocking This needs to gain massive awareness

[@dekin819]

I think a lot of people know, look at Nike everyone knows about Nike

[@truthwarrior122]

Most people nowadays are too evil, greedy, and selfish to even bother to care about anyone but themselves. Thanks to brainwashing from FAKE NEWS.

[@subdefine]

The problem is, if these mines are automated then it will cause two things to happen: electronics will be more expensive and these people mining will be unemployed. It's not an easy problem to solve.

[@timturk1899]

Exactly! And there's so much advertising money being spent towards putting our awareness on buying the next, new, smartphone/electrical vehicle (from drones, "skateboards", scooters, bicycles, motorcycles, and cars, up to buses and even larger more industrial vehicles and machines that rely on Rechargeable Lithium batteries, and as a result, Cobalt itself). I'd love to see the documentary this great journalist put together with the footage shown here..?! And share that to others, just like this JRE clip!👍💯

[@subdefine]

@@smikethehandicappedfriend Given the way you type, I doubt you even own a house. Don't shit talk me son, I'd put you to shame.

[@dmytropanchenko5153]

Huge thank you to Joe for bringing Siddharth Kara on the show to expose this deeply depressing important yet shunned issue. I ordered the book immediately after watching this clip and just finished it. Truly horrifying stuff.

[@sv-xi6oq]

Typed from your iPhone lol.

[@thelastestsportnews]

@@sv-xi6oq yeah we're all complicit in it. That's the point. It's to recognize it and do your part to mitigate. But passing the blame on one individual instead of these massive corporations who profit from it, is a joke.

[@sv-xi6oq]

@@thelastestsportnews Typed from your iPhone lol.

[@thelastestsportnews]

@@sv-xi6oq did you read anything I said?

[@WisdomSeeker808]

Truly a brave and impressive gentleman speaking for those without voices. I hope this gets more attention

[@susanvandeneng5231]

Buy his book. Monies will help him continue on his part. Maybe he can sell his story to a big movie motel like Blood Diamonds.

[@RealKlausSchwab]

He is lying. Look at the video he showed. That mine definitely used industrial machinery. That was a video of "bring your kid to work day".

[@dq3666]

@@RealKlausSchwab Good one, Klaus. Okay, gotta get back to eating ze crickets. 👋🏻

[@mattmarzula]

@@RealKlausSchwab That is pretty funny. Good one.

[@mattmarzula]

@@susanvandeneng5231 and do what? Your veterans have been telling everyone about this for two decades. If anyone is listening, no one is doing anything. You want to do something with money? Don't spend it on these companies. Cut your dependence on the products.

[@CHUBBYAMERICAN]

100% REAL JOURNALISM!!! EXCELLENT WORK.

[@David-bf6bz]

Absolutely not. It is mostly BS full of half truths and misframming

[@trimademi7637]

Yeah but this people don't live a long life that's sad

[@XXX_JiaYangGuiZi]

Really? He said there were American companies there. Imagine, if Americans treated the workers so well, paid them so well, why would anyone want to work for Chinese companies? How could Chinese companies find any workers in the area? If a Chinese company comes to your town open the same business, would quit your job, and to work for the Chinese company with less pay. Remember, American Companies were there before Chinese Companies moved in. Think about it. What he said does not make any fking sense. He can fool you easily, all he has to do is connect it to China. He knows the collective mood of Americans. Hating China is in high demand.

[@babitapandhare1889]

@@XXX_JiaYangGuiZi thank for writing ccp bot and your comment just proves that man in the video is saying true

[@pqlr8763]

@@XXX_JiaYangGuiZi No, they weren't. I've worked in several African countries - American presence there is laughable compared to Chinese, who have a foothold in everything from mining to construction to timber and so on and so forth. You are talking out of your behind. And I'm Russian, so I have no emotional stake in making the U.S. look good. Just saying it like it is.

[@JayneBond]

Best examples of what JRE can do to bring awareness to issues that are purposefully swept under the rug.

[@tonyd8454]

Under the rug by dems

[@CaliDraco]

ur comment was right above the original comment that said the exact same thing. lol

[@Crussman499]

@@tonyd8454 republicans are just as bad. Don't be biased. Centrism is the only way to go.

[@ObeloMusic]

@@Crussman499 The center between these 2 extremes is the most evil. Anti-phase polar modulation is the only way !

[@mikesticha7801]

abc did a story about this 10 months ago you just ignore what you call fake news

[@OhGoshAwwGeez]

I am reading Kara‘s book, Cobalt Red, right now! It’s incredibly well written, very informative, disturbing, and hard to put down. Everyone needs to read it!

[@markmiller8903]

Agree, read Cobalt Red and its the most disturbing book I've ever read. Especially the last chapter they talk about tunnel collapes where 30 to 60 children die every time.

[@markmiller8903]

Agree I read Cobalt Red and especially the chapter on the tunnel collapses was troubling and sickening. EVS should be banned.

[@danielyoumans3772]

This brought tears to my eyes, this man’s passion for humans who deserve more.

[@cjweisman]

I've known about this for 5 years. A client asked me to research the three main metals that comprise these batteries, cobalt, copper and lithium. I was shocked to learn of cobalt's toxicity and the child labor used to extract it.

[@Redmanticore]

you didnt care to research for your client how small children, in the rain, with bare hands, dig 9999999 tonns of cobolt every day? didn't ring a bell? let me guess: "african 6 year old children dig 99999999999 tonns of cobalt ore every day, in the rain, with nothing but bare hands, while a mean man shouts at them." somehow, it makes sense to dig with small children bare hands in the rain, than with massive modern mining equipment? kekw, sure.. and nobody thinks its a set-up pictures and articles. nobody checks sources. only American oil can save us, not those 6 year old cobalt ore diggers. this "critical" audience doesn't even think one second, that it just might be falsified sources, with dudes just paid for photoshoots and videos. this "academic researcher" doesn't once ask, is it any point to try to dig with small children with bare hands, when you need 9999999tons per day. obviously they cant dig anything. obviously its bogus. even congolese warlords/chinese warlords would need serious mining equipment, obviously, not kids or adults being useless. 6:10 "this mine shibara.. they're not supposed to be here.. lo and behold I walk into this place and this is what I see.." sure you didn't pay those movie extras to be there? give me a break. if you would dig by hand in 21st century there would be nothing done. 8:21 are there industrialized cobalt mines that use machinery? - ive never seen one. now you know he is just full of bs. 10:02 "hundreds of thousands of people digging" this dude is a riot. nobody would know hundreds of thousands of people would be slaves? united nations? even united nations is in the pocked of "big electric"? give me a breaaaaaaaak. 10:45 "this is a made up video!" curious how he was pre-emptively defensive that his short videos are fake, just hired movie extras.

[@gozieboy3899]

Did you say anything about it?

[@cjweisman]

@@gozieboy3899 No. I didn't have a clue what to do about it. Wish I did.

[@Paul-vf2wl]

Point is there is no necessity to use child labour for mining these metals this issue and the toxicity are both issues that could easily be dealt with. People are just excited to have a reason to not use battery power.

[@jrno93]

they could use machines but rather pay a dollar a day or they say. im sure most of them are forced

[@cheeseburgerwithnocheese5348]

I work in a nickel and cobalt site in Australia and we have standards I couldn't imagine working like that, that's just shocking.

[@pipedreamism1]

If deez ppl was white I promise you this would be shut down the next day

[@jackphillips6742]

I'm so glad Australia actually has decent labour standards. Still hard work though.

[@lei9149]

youd also be going home with thousands of dollars every week

[@1HoodHistory]

Cheeseburger with no cheese is a hamburger

[@Chelsleen]

@@1HoodHistory Amen Bruuther

[@parunbelhomme]

I'm from Congo. It's amazing how this is unknown to many Americans or the rest of the world for the most part. I've spoken on these issues 15 years ago, back in my college days. But as they say, when money talks, truth is silenced.

[@neovenom7187]

Not to mention the people responsible for this put up smoke and mirror screens in other countries, like all that woke stuff and BLM. They pretend to care, yet do this.

[@parunbelhomme]

@@neovenom7187 The hypocrisy is strong with those people.

[@Anonymous-xq5cs]

it was worse 120 years ago

[@parunbelhomme]

@@Anonymous-xq5cs and your point is?

[@sad-frosty4462]

americans dont even know where the congo is

[@davedehart]

I'm a house painter and i remember a few years ago it was mandatory for the paint industry to replace the cobalt in paint for another product. We were told it was a health issue... Now years later i know better than that!

[@stevecoscia]

Fascinating and depressing issue. The pervasive use of cobalt in every facet to today's life should make this a huge story. Thanks Joe and Siddharth for bringing this to light.

[@robertfish4052]

I agree. I love the "let's get down to it" approach. But the stark reality is very unnerving. That's globalism in a nutshell..

[@annetteholman2999]

What can we do as cosseted Americans to stop this terrible crime?

[@jtjoemamma]

@@robertfish4052 not globalism. it's called capitalism. the rich would rather destroy lives and destroy the planet than lose profits.

[@ezbayt8723]

It’s just the way the world works. Things will improve but not because of news stories covering the issue.

[@Facts-Over-Feelings]

@@ezbayt8723 WTF U SOUND SILLY

[@dreb222]

Nobody can understand how important it was for this man to divulge this story on this particular podcast. This is the catalyst that was needed for visibility.

[@sandylynn7343]

Have you seen "Joe Rogan asks Elon Musk HARD Questions About Cobalt Mining For TESLA Batteries" 🔥 🏎

[@RHt09]

@@sandylynn7343 Have you seen the part where he says Apple is the biggest offender, Tesla has actually transitioned half its new cars off cobalt batteries and all major electronics like smart phones use cobalt? Sandy sandy sandy...

[@arnoldlueders7500]

Why do we care? If any of you are shocked then I am sorry, you are either dumb or naive. We live in a world of limited resources and first world countries use either military or economic incentives in order to get the resources that it needs from whatever part of the world. In this case it's pure capitalism. If those people working that mine had any other better option for making money than they would do it but they see value in being hired for a dollar a day and what is wrong with that? These people don't live the same as you and I in the west. For some strange reason, y'all think that the entire world lives like we live. No billions of people in this world. Wake up every morning to do exactly what you saw in that video.

[@brushstroke3733]

We'll all click the next video and forget about it within a couple days for the most part, except occasionally to bring it up in conversation to virtue signal our awareness and "compassion". How many of us will stop using cell phones, tablets, electric cars, etc.? That's really the only thing that will change what's going on, because it's all about greed.

[@arnoldlueders7500]

@@brushstroke3733 I agree with most of your statement, but I disagree with your conclusion. For me it's not all about greed. For me. It's about living the first world lifestyle. There are haves and have nots in this world. The lifestyle that first world countries such as the United States in europe live allows us to be to haves. These mines add to our ease of life here in the west. And those people in Africa are working those jobs because it is better to earn that money that way than to do something else. In their opinion. Our lifestyle and their lifestyle don't need to be the same so it seems to me that every body wins because we all have improved lifestyle.

[@korbandallas8931]

this is real journalism

[@dankelly5150]

And the left in their zeal to get people to convert to battery powered cars WILL NOT talk about the slave labor issue to mine the cobalt that you make batteries with because it doesn't fit their narrative !! 😡

[@the_batmobile0.4]

That's Elon musk for all u EV 🤡🤡🤡

[@valentineblabla5056]

Its just to increase the prices ....old tactics

[@classycassi20]

Fifth element is a cult classic 👌

[@CalvinHikes]

Which is why it gets largely ignored.

[@johnnyguitar2929]

His book Cobalt Red is very important and illuminating. It was also very disturbing and traumatizing when he described what the miners in Congo go through.

[@gregbarthelette666]

Here is the sad part of this whole situation. There is a huge vein of Cobalt where I grew up in NW Ontario ( Google - Werner Lake Cobalt) that was mined in small quantities during the 2nd world war. A BC company has acquired the mineral rights for this cobalt years ago, but they still haven't mined it. I'm thinking that they can't compete against the child, slave labour in Africa.

[@asianmanfromasia]

It’s either pay one person $25+/hr (idk what miners make) or 25 people each $1 a day. Sounds really shitty, but it’s all about max profit with minimum investment

[@aa2339]

But the mine that outputs more in a shorter amount of time should win.

[@coolcatrich]

@@aa2339 That's not true. If you can mine 100x faster but at 100x the cost, its a net neutral, or so it seems. But if you dig deeper it isn't neutral, because you're using up more minerals for the same amount of profit. So your mine is going to run out of minerals and the slower, cheaper mine is going to win in the end.

[@anthonytorridson5360]

Have you seen the video “Elon Musk meets Post Malone” It’s hilarious!! 👽 😂

[@matthewmiksza5855]

The problem is we have Trudeau in power who loves to virtue signal but would never put forth the necessary policies to get it out of the ground

[@Tomtycoon]

This guy looks like a fusion of Obama and Tuco Salamanca

[@christianmathison1182]

Lmfao!!

[@tattoobobby3103]

Lol the accuracy

[@d1pz9]

Lmaooooo 💀

[@hotsaucejunkie]

you nailed it... LOL

[@anneliendekramer9243]

Poor guy

[@neuroziz]

This guy wouldn't get a second of time on mainstream media because they are all in the same matrix together, so thanks Joe for continuing to provide people like him a platform!

[@danielstehura9657]

This A Hole has No Solution! He’s making profit on bellyaching about a problem that he has no solution

[@danielstehura9657]

I’m agitated about you A Hole

[@bri200490]

It has been reported for years in mainstream media , it’s just that , for example , in the US , no one cares.

[@MacLethal]

Rogan IS mainstream media at this point. He gets WAY more views than any of the MSM "matrix" people you speak of.

[@danielstehura9657]

@@bri200490 let all the murderers in America do the work

[@mathew6211]

Thank You Joe for letting the world know about this issue. I had no idea about this my goodness, this is truly heartbreaking 💔

[@bestbeforeapparel]

You could hear his pain throughout the whole podcast, even had me emotional at time, problem is nothing will changed because if is not in front of you all the time we quickly forget and move on.

[@WATCHMYCLIPSZ]

Joe sounds pretty serious too. You know he hates to hear this knowing most of his fan base are on phones

[@cliftonwindham4194]

The problem is in front of us everyday if the cobalt being mined is powering this iPhone.

[@BrianFordKY]

@@cliftonwindham4194 💯

[@123shotas]

Either way big companies will blame you for your decisions

[@xerozeus890]

The problem is also that we pay attention to him and what he felt. And we don't try to look/feel what the people go through. I hope I conveyed what I meant. Summary: The observer is the observed. No division is needed.

[@amirabdelli2295]

Didn’t even realize I was watching this on a cobalt device. Glad to see this information available more broadly

[@furerorban1488]

J Peterson kissing the Orbanus hard for 50 million HUF: "my message to Hungarians: Do not rebel against your dictator! What your prime minister is trying to do is to restore the metaphysical foundation of the dirty-white Hungarian culture and race"

[@howardhavardramberg333]

This is why news particularily in America is so fucked because it is just politics on the left or right. You don’t get good sources on what actually goes on in the world.

[@spookkybeemee669]

I'm just now learning what cobalt.

[@SlackerU]

Changes my fear of battery fires.

[@ameliaannhouck2670]

ALSO CALLED SLAVE COBALT DEVICE , THINK ABOUT IT ! AMERICANS OR WHO EVER WHO ARE, THINK ABOUT WHERE THINGS COME FROM, SO FEELING ANY SHAME YET???

[@rollymayola363]

I’m a Congolese living in Congo and I wanna Thank you so much for bringing awareness to this. Our country is beautiful but unfortunately too many people wants to benefit from our resources free of charge 🇨🇩💔

[@lemonhead9628]

it really is sad that your government is being exploited instead of your country selling cobalt to the world for high prices since they need your resource for their electric vehicles

[@mr.makedonija2627]

@@bljdeep lol

[@lucid4182]

@@bljdeep the sun will burn a hole thru you soon enough. You're not natural here..How can something that benefits the earth, hurt you? Sounds like your creator doesn't love you. Your time is up💚

[@elijahchuruza]

@@bljdeep what why? lol

[@frankzappa9853]

So please enlighten us, what other job opportunities do these people have? Are they missing out on better options or would they starve without this work? I'm curious your from there you can tell us

[@jeffdj1975]

JR needs to have more good people like this on his show.

[@imahumdinger77]

Joe Rogan bringing shit to the table that everybody else sweeps under the rug! Keep it coming Joe!

[@TrollextheTroll]

Are you an alien lady?

[@imahumdinger77]

@Trollex Trollex yes, do you want to be probed?

[@JimShorts10]

What about Kuniko? Check their site out

[@Renwick2585]

Seriously what other mainstream media platform is giving this man a voice. Well done Joe.

[@Paul-vf2wl]

@@Renwick2585 CBS broke this story in 2018 it was all over the media

[@atom5341]

When an American hears that some aspect of their lifestyle is created by slave or child labor we are programmed to semi acknowledge the atrocity verbally but we never take the time to Google the details and learn the extent of the suffering. We don't know how bad it is because we don't want to know.

[@suzKawasaki]

It’s why Angelina Jolie’s movie about the mines was ignored by Hollywood, critics and the public. People only want to live in their bubble of bliss.

[@drshrimppuertorico3540]

Pretty sure the whole world is using these devices not just America

[@jasonsanders8091]

True.

[@Jm-dx9tl]

Hey bro you can buy his book on kindle for only $20 where he profits of the suffering and dedicates 0 of the funds to solve it himself.

[@Jm-dx9tl]

@@drshrimppuertorico3540 the whole world except the people in such extreme poverty

[@calvinbohler886]

What’s so crazy to me is that this is the same podcast that Elon Musk went on. JRE is a crazy platform that brings up pretty though topics besides controversial guests, comedy and mma at the same time. It’s so amazing! Thanks a lot for this episode, it is really important to show people the fucked up sides of the world we live in

[@farliepaynter9580]

Holcomb energy systems would eliminate batteries period like in electric cars

[@anthonysupplee858]

Ya because Elon is in charge of mining Cobalt. The Chinese run this mine because the Biden’s got em a deal on it

[@jpmkiv]

What is crazy about that? LFP model 3, zero cobalt, all new cars will go to 4680 which is Zero cobalt. Cobalt is used to make every drop of oil on earth, yet there are plenty of cobalt free EV's on the road today.

[@samkregar2087]

Look up “Joe Rogan asks Elon Musk HARD Questions about Cobalt Mining for TESLA Batteries!” thank me later 🙏

[@Winterstick549]

@@jpmkiv Which models? Just asking.

[@THUNDAHHORSE]

What a wonderful journalist putting his energy into such a good cause and so visually passionate to help people.

[@elyastoohey6621]

My university specialised in teaching the idea of ESG/SRI investing in finance. I remember spending my entire time there arguing with the lecturers about these sustainability and ethics claims. What it really boiled down to, was aesthetics and perception. Westerners like the luxury of “buying ethically” (if we have money) It makes us feel good. It’s a status symbol too. But we don’t really want to know the truth. We don’t really want to give up something just because it’s mined or harvested terribly. The companies know this. The purpose of those ESG reports and others is marketing. They say that ESG companies produce slightly higher returns on investments in our current market. But that’s just because they have used faux morality to tap into the western consumer. It’s not because their practices are better. It’s because their perceived/advertised “practises” penetrate the market better. It’s all a scam. If you actually wanted to buy ethically you’d have to pay quite a bit more. Because the company wants its pound of flesh. They won’t sacrifice profits to be ethical. So either you the consumer pay quite a bit more, or you buy the companies lies. That’s the nature of almost all ethical companies. The truly ethical ones usually go bust, they just cannot compete. You’ll get genuine people who want to make an ethical company. It rarely works. Because their place in the market is drowned out by other companies advertising they do the same ethical practices but offer cheaper products.

[@leticiabraun2909]

First useful, real comment so far.

[@ToroMoto]

Absolutely true. ESG is a tool used to control the politics of corporations.

[@mj625]

Well said! Were you able to convince anyone in your college class?

[@geralsetya4097]

Haha you're absolutely right, sad as it is I work at an indonesian company. We just onboarded a team of environmental and social impact team as a perma hire, whose sole job is to package the company in a way that makes us look good in the eyes of investors. It's all bullshit as nothing operationally changes, the team just look at any angles that can make em appear as having a good impact (e.g. look how our users from x industry are 73% women! we are having a tremendous impact compared to blah2) We still offer predatory products like BNPL, no one cares. When I first heard about this team i thought it was such a gimmick, but apparently it works as suddenly some western investors appear out the wazzoo offering us great deals, as it seems we fit into their esg policy or something It's all trolls trolling trolls

[@mj625]

@@geralsetya4097 I'm glad to hear about these real-world examples of hypocrisy in action. It makes me hopeful that the charade will someday be exposed to everyone.

[@MrWestsideconnexion]

I feel like this was one of the best Rogan podcasts ever. Really opened my eyes about the horrors of this world

[@purplespeckledappleeater8738]

There is sketchy stuff happening in every country on every continent.

[@Travellahh]

Good morning...

[@ZeroPhilosopher]

Purple speckled apple. wow so profound. why even make the comment? people breathe in every continent. look at me I said something.

[@KYLEAD13]

You're just know learning the world is jacked up? Check your privilege

[@joshcann9950]

@@KYLEAD13 stfu Kyle you dork , this real news often doesn't reach the mainstream

[@collier6794]

And THIS is why joe rogan needs to be protected at all cost. Giving people like this a voice/platform

[@Jahn_Pah_Jonz]

"butt heez rayciss tho!" - cnn

[@joshnic6639]

I couldn’t disagree more, I mean yeah I agree that Joe Rogan is good, but these people are poor. their socioeconomic status does not matter in their setting. What’s bad is when you have people who are mega rich in America and people who are poor in the same damn country. why aren’t we talking about that? So what if someone has more goats than you, but when somebody has a fucking mansion and you don’t even have a pot to piss in yet you live in the same country, you become an outcast of your society.

[@almightysosa3007]

Except he’s wrong. There is 6x more cobalt at the bottom of the ocean than there is on land.

[@dq3666]

Joe looooooves EVs, tho.

[@chasecarter1170]

@@almightysosa3007 what area of the ocean bottom though, that's vital info you left out. It's not feasible to mine cobalt from the ocean floor as of yet , not on the level it's occuring in the congo. If it were it would already be happening at a massive scale as it is in the congo......

[@teriprice6214]

As a a woman of color this has broke me down drastically…wow..being what they call us here African American and knowing our ancestry roots are over there makes me sick to my stomach-I literally prance around with my shiny diamonds 💎 and high tech phones & tablets…I never knew of this, and I’m ashamed of myself 😢the oppression and brainwashing is real

[@Utubegofukurself]

This should have "broke you down drastically" no matter what color your skin is. Just an idi0tc statement.

[@Kal-El207]

Don’t be. Nothing you can do about it anyway.

[@joshuaflaming6663]

I am a Congolese , and i am working in a cobalt mine, i want you to know that everything exposed in this podcast is real. You cannot imagine how hard it is, we are not living anymore, we are now surviving. I think, when next generations will study this era , they will wonder how could such things was going on. Many will think that it's just a story, but it's our daily life

[@WeAgreeToDisagree1]

Bro, why not use your KZbin channel as a tool to help expose these horrific circumstances? Perfect opportunity

[@gigahertz_1911]

@@WeAgreeToDisagree1 probably many reasons Too dangerous to film without being caught Spotty internet connection, not enough time to upload, or hardly any access to the internet at all I'm sure the people that control the mines also control all communications coming out of the mine. They don't want to risk their lives or their families trying to expose the truth

[@ImxPhreme]

What do you think are the solutions? Do these big tech companies take over the mines, or is the land already controlled by someone else? I wonder what we can actually do

[@joshuaflaming6663]

@@WeAgreeToDisagree1 i am a human right activist, i have already try rising awareness trough social about certain things , but you don't know how deep these logistics and supply chain are organized, they got people everywhere, in the gouvernement, in institution, so no matter where you go you will fall on one of them. But we don't stop trying to do whatever we can to push things

[@joshuaflaming6663]

@@gigahertz_1911 you said it. Many people , authorities and activist felt on this journey, and corruption is deep. With wisdom , i a m sure that , one day we will found a way There is a time for everything under the sun

[@pokerflush29]

My daughter had to do a social studies project in high school a few years ago. She was struggling for ideas, she didn’t want to do the standard global warming/transgender/racism path because that’s what everyone was doing. I told her to investigate cobalt mines and slave/child labour in the Congo. She did a great job I thought but got completely shitted on by her teacher and peers because it didn’t go with the narrative that EV’s are saving the planet, fossil fuels are terrible.

[@tobene]

Did she also find out that gasoline cars require cobalt as well?

[@SiLL-E-Meat]

Welcome to left-wing fascism: Where freedom of speech is DESPISED.

[@zakmartin]

@@tobene As I'm sure you are well aware, only microscopic particles of cobalt are used in *some* catalytic converters in cars. No cobalt is used in more than 99% of cars. Stop spreading misinformation.

[@kalumwi]

Kudos for challenging the narrative and thinking for herself.

[@apatheticallyconcerned6574]

Yeah, the woke zealots (the same people who preach about global warming all day) don't care about children being hurt. They prove this everyday by advocating for groomers in schools to be allowed to prance in front of kids with barely any clothes on and read porn stories to them, so why would they care about some African child slaves when they don't care about the kids in their own towns?

[@stevenvanderheide6472]

Please remember that the minerals in this story are not the problem. The problem is our lack of transparency regarding supply chains. We must hold people accountable for where material comes from.

[@trillrifaxegrindor4411]

yes,the dependence on shitty,unnecessary tech and peoples idiotic reliance on it (cell phones,im talking to you)is the core of the problem.........you really think a car needs 15 body modules,6 cameras, 4 ecms ,a tablet and 800 feet of wire? ANY SUCCESSFUL business will always be done to meet the highest profit margin with the lowest bottom line,full stop

[@NDE108]

They'll pass off the cost of anything down to the consumer and do nothing about these working conditions

[@ChicagoMike85]

But coal and nuckkklear are bad so we need to mine cobalt which is used in these batteries.. so it’s a good trade off. And the politicians that are promoting this are saving humanity, because if we stay on this track, the world will be destroyed in 4 years.. that’s how much time we have left.. 4 years omg! These politicians deserve immense amounts of credit because they are doing this out of the kindness of their hearts. They love people, they love humanity, that’s why this is a great thing. Even my college professor says this is good. And also if you check fact-check there is no signs of slavery. We must put more trust into these corporations, and a lot of them are owned by great people who donate so much into helping humanity..

[@DerStammtischphilosoph]

Do you see the video? Thats transparency. Do you think the corporations don't know? Do you really think that anyone will sacrifice social media to stop this? People couldn't care less.

[@runtaoyang1244]

There is no such thing as ethical mining. All miners are treated horribly over exploited and underpaid

[@ostromadventures]

Great video! Keep spreading information on these horrible conditions.

[@arlettekavira167]

As a Congolese, thank you for covering this Joe 😢 . Avoir un Corrupted gouvernement that doesn’t give a flip about son peuple c juste un high level of slavery.

[@matildo4ka7]

My school in Russia is named after Patrice Lumumba. We remember him. US KILLED HIM.

[@matildo4ka7]

STOP LOOKING UP. AFRICA SHOULD LOOK WITHIN. Please lead the way. We need to look UP to Africa, you are the soul of the world in the future. Order in the world now is a BS. USA won't solve shit. The last 100 years are proof in the pudding. JRE is the past, not the future. Last white man standing.

[@LAZER904]

This is why Joe rogan will ALWAYS be better than any major news outlet out there. They should be taking notes 📝 from this podcast instead they want to insult the guy. Good work Joe!

[@bicyclist2]

Joe has more viewers than CNN. And the major news media outlets hate him for it.

[@mkhululi9517]

Yep. Instead, they're gonna try to attack and discredit him if he continues like this.

[@desd1932]

The wont take note because they arent about real news. Just scripted crap

[@DerekCaldwell]

they insult him because long form podcasts get people thinking. MSM wants people to not think and just absorb.

[@kratoleaf7619]

i said this 7 yrs ago but people laughed.

[@Bga1412]

I have been trying to talk about this for years. Since the first leaks 5/6 years ago. I can't tell you how many regular people literally want to fight me for pointing this out.

[@SzymczykProductions]

Okay? And? What are you going to do about it? Nothing! You only care in comment section. You don't care just like the rest of us lmao. Liar

[@Bga1412]

@Drone Studios ok, what is your game plan, bud? Buy the tickets to the DRC. I'll come with you

[@RealAmericanStar]

You can't tell us because nobody wants to physically attack you over this lol

[@Bga1412]

@RA. STAR go and start talking about the dark side of ev's and renewables to someone on the street. I guarantee you will find someone delusional enough to want to physically fight you over it. That was my point. Most of the time, you get apathy. And they just don't give a shit that there is a 6 year old in a toxic pit somewhere. As long as they get the newest thing, they don't give a shit. I'm all for renewable energy, but the way it's being pushed is dirty. The stupid batteries are not economical to recycle, what's going to happen in 8-10 years? Same thing that's been happening for the last 50, it gets shipped to the 3rd world and burned in open pits to extract minute amounts of copper or whatever. Look up how e-waste is disposed of. Most of it ends up in places where it poisons the surrounding land and communities.

[@RealAmericanStar]

@@Bga1412 I'm not saying people wouldn't get mad or heated. No one is throwing punches over this tho.

[@Britt-r3r]

I haven't seen this man on any legacy media and he deserves a lot more attention

[@RahYoRaijin]

My heart goes out to this gentleman that has dedicated his life to bringing awareness. My heart goes out to all those people. Sad…..

[@nashgrons5762]

For future, this guy didn't commit suicide.

[@uriiel1211]

Gotta get it out there before he’s offed by our evil Govt

[@dave20000]

More like the republic of Congo offed him. One of the most dangerous places and most corrupt governments on the planet.

[@aSSGoblin1488]

he would if he cared about child slaves

[@bockskarr6626]

This information has already been out there for years. You just late

[@ericjones9699]

Hands tied behind his back, hanging from a rope tied around his neck. Shot in the back of the head and the media will say it's suicide. 60% of ya'll will believe it cause the so called news told you too.

[@jimjaspers2804]

Joe thank you for being an outlet for authentic international news. Our media has failed us for decades.

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

Mainstream media is owned by corporations which obviously favor themselves. Fox "News" would never publish anything that makes their backers look bad. They highlight and promote companies which feed them money. Simple as that. If you pay a news media corporation enough money, they'll say whatever the bloody hell ya want. This isn't a refutable point, either; it's been demonstrated in thousands of instances. 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨

[@nwwfmaniac529]

New York Times has written thoroughly about this.

[@intermediate212]

Please don't tell me you only get your news from Joe Rogan. 🙁

[@stevesherman1743]

@@nwwfmaniac529 … and getting it wrong.

[@brianwade-tw4cu]

Joe, keep up this awesome work and digging into critical topics.

[@sharonparsons3018]

The older I get the more I realize everything is a lie

[@blackhawk7r221]

This is nothing new. You simply know more now.

[@csl750]

Yip...

[@sk8snwmx]

Also the more you learn, the more you realize that you actually 'don't know'...

[@penzancegunner857]

The older I get, the less I give a fk?

[@thatsawkward101]

Ignorance is a blessing

[@MrJohanvj2000]

Cobalt actually started much earlier, I remember me and my father running armed security for the cobalt freight trucks. We would meet them at the Botswana border and escort them to a main hub in Johannesburg, these trucks would often get highjacked on route, once criminal organizations figured out the value of them.

[@cloverassassinscreed]

Joe. Thank you for covering such a wide variety of important and jaw dropping topics, that are all to often silenced, shunned and flat out ignored. Your a journalist wether you know it or not, only you bring your sources to the front lines with you and call Bullshit if you smell it... Love that shit, Bravo Mr.Rogan...I applaud you.

[@jamesrucker7048]

Well said 👍🏾

[@timarcella]

"You're a journist whether...."

[@AwesomeBlackDude]

Here's the thing I don't understand so what kind of job would these people have once they remove them from this?

[@KOOLEE88]

@@AwesomeBlackDude living regular life? This is to stay alive against the thugs controlling everything. They are under control, they are slaves to this system

[@LilLou97]

He’s not gonna send you free supplements bro

[@JeffDAPG]

Joe and his team have done the best reporting out of ALL media outlets!

[@didgejamman]

If we could all shed our ego and dedicate our life to a meaningful existence like this man. He is truly someone to be admired and respected. Finally, Joe got someone to talk about this, he’s mentioned it many times.

[@kiezersosay49]

Yes...we must find away to get DMT into the water supply. The DMT and the fluoride will have their very own holy war...

[@luke9669-0]

🙄 ego isn't the problem it's greed.

[@luke9669-0]

@chocolate young thug the elites allow this because they want the wealth. Money and oil make the world go around, if we correct what is wrong say goodbye to technology that's why nothing will be done.

[@SoftHeartHuman]

Shed the ego for greed you mean

[@KYLEAD13]

Ok. So what have you done to help change the world, or did commenting that just make you feel good.

[@crabjockey]

good for joe to put awareness ahead of pumping the narrative

[@mooreweasel]

Now that you are aware what steps are you prepared to take to hinder this? Are you going to stop buying cell phones, laptops, etc? If not then awareness means literally nothing.

[@89burni]

@@mooreweasel is it really the problem of consumption or is it political?

[@mooreweasel]

@@89burni politics aren't going to interfere with things happening in other countries especially when a company isn't based in the United States. Addionally, consumerism drives the market, politicians/governments depend on consumerism to survive. So politics aren't going to solve this. It's up to the consumer to say hey Apple, telsa etc. We're not going to buy anymore of your products until something is done about this. Otherwise it won't change.

[@89burni]

@@mooreweasel but every market has rules and those are set by politics.

[@89burni]

@@mooreweasel would be totally fine to stop buying all said shit if there was none at the beginning

[@Dirtdreams]

I thought my problems were actual problems until I saw this. Heart breaking.

[@spartanmucho5950]

@@Chrismorgan6 give up

[@georgeschnakenberg7808]

First world privilege

[@brandonkrebbs]

You must be a pamper priss. Never done manual labor???

[@Bee-tj8gc]

People need to stop buying the new phones as soon as they come out Make your phones last 5-10 years if you can

[@Bee-tj8gc]

@@Chrismorgan6 that shit is wack man. Practice for like 5 more years. Sound like the first song you've ever written

[@creativecatalyst1]

Been reading the book and appalled by the fiasco. Glad to see Siddartha on JRE spreading awareness.

[@zoro9777]

First full JRE episode I've seen on spotify. Amazing work Siddarth Kara. Thank you JR for bringing this man on!

[@pictlandpickers1171]

I've listened to 100s.

[@sean637]

You've a lot to catch up on....Joe's been pumping out informative podcasts while 90% of the western world is busy being brainwashed

[@Sid00077]

If you want to listen to his pods where they talk about social issues, the hive Josh Dublin a shot. He's been on JRE many times. He talks about prison industrial complex, and also mentions things that certain individuals in power did to maintain that complex

[@daviebroy9174]

As he is talking, I realized everyone is watching this on their phones, laptops and they are sitting in a room full of the stuff. It is a sad reality of our modern world. It almost can't be helped.

[@ewitdmt6389]

Gah dam your so right thank you I realized it when i read your comment. We dont need any of these things to live we need food shelter and water not a dam luxury vehicle

[@haslamabad_]

the life we live here was built off exporting misery overseas so we can live comfortably

[@caspar_gomez]

nah Im on desktop but still, we all suck

[@successfulman681]

It can be helped

[@jay1jayf]

I'm watching it on a PC, no rechargeable batteries here. You presuming C-word.

[@jasonknight6390]

This is the dark side of the green industry. Thank you for bringing awareness to this atrocity.

[@onesolopolo4194]

Green industry? Apple is not a green industry. Tech companies are not green industries. If you're refering the electric cars, the miners were not enslaved by environmentalism. Even without EVs this has been a problem for over a decade. Electric vehicles are only getting better, there are already rechargeable lithium batteries that have no Cobalt in them.

[@lucasm7177]

@@onesolopolo4194 you should learn about how lithium is mined by slave labor in China

[@Joes_Morgue]

You should look up the fact that cobalt is used to make gasoline

[@astralfluxaf]

This isn’t about “green industry” cobalt is also used for gasoline… batteries and phones are not apart of the “green industry” Did you even watch the video?

[@tobene]

The issue is not the cobalt, it's the exploitation. Some would say capitalism

[@jiteshshirsat745]

Thanks a lot Siddhartha Kara and Joe for addressing this issue.

[@Radar101music]

Didnt know about you Siddharth Kara, but man what an amazing soul you are. People like you change the world. Thank you for your tremendous work.

[@funguy29]

Why thank you Epstein Barr I didn’t know you were cool too I mean aside from… you know ?

[@SuzukiKid400]

“Artisanal” has such a positive connotation that I don’t believe it should be used to convey the idea of poverty stricken, slavery, unsafe manual mining.

[@katiewolfe9618]

Fits into the whole marketing scheme

[@jdfray338]

Not so positive any more.

[@nineallday000]

It is because 'artisanal' translates to something closer to 'homemade' 'self made' or 'independent' in french, and they speak French in the congo.

[@lancepage1914]

Why does 'artisanal' have to have a positive connotation to it when that has absolutely nothing to do with the meaning of the word? Something good, something bad... I have been to plenty of shit coffee shops that are self proclaimed 'coffee artisans' - doesn't mean it's good coffee. All artisanal means it's produced traditionally or in a non-mechanized way.

[@truongkimson]

You might wanna look up what artisanal means. Spoiler alerts, it has nothing to do with art

[@LogicAtItsFinest]

This is the shyte that mainstream media is afraid to report on. Sad that it's takes a Joe Rogan podcast to tell the truth.

[@Lombarsi]

right on

[@matildo4ka7]

He is not a rebel, he has his shit to sell too.

[@solereeper3955]

@@matildo4ka7 Absolutely he does, but why isnt NBC, CNN, FOX, talking about this kind of thing? Thats what the comment is talking about. We should be able to trust our media to talk about important world wide issues and each and every one of them fail us everytime.

[@matildo4ka7]

@@solereeper3955 they are corporations why would they support people agendas. Shitty media is a side effect of capitalism. In Germany everyone cheap in for the media and they get more or less objective news. Days of true journalism are gone. You can be a better journalist by googling things yourself and analyzing them. It is sad that no one wants to think anymore in the US :( Just Google 'Cobalt mining' and you will realize that many journalists and scientists were talking about it in the past, but we have deaf ears.

[@iam1smiley1]

They wouldn't want to take you away from the most powerful brainwashing machine ever created.....your phone.

[@rookiexreviews]

My respects sir if most ppl picked a something like this or even something less severe but if everyone was to make a effort to bring attention to one thing we can help to fix alot of issues would get more ppl working to fix them at least ease the suffering of those families good work you dedicated yourself to a good cause even if one family gets a better life cuz of this i would feel justified in all the work and chances are you have already helped many families

[@velvetthunder2830]

You what's crazy? Probably 99% of people watching this video will go, "Wow, this is crazy! We need to do something to fix this!" Then proceed to scroll on their phone, go drive in their car, or use their computer and do absolutely nothing - including me. And it's so fucked. Videos and awareness like this are the first steps to change, as easy as that is to say.

[@buddysshop1860]

Touché 😔

[@billvandergriff2764]

Then there is you. Who is going to set down your phone and your going to buy a plane ticket to the Congo and picket these mines.

[@velvetthunder2830]

@@billvandergriff2764 you totally missed the "including me" in my passage. I'm not special, I'm an NPC just like everyone else watching this video.

[@hithere9377]

What’s crazier is that your government will lie to your face about the benefits of electric cars and tax the shit out of you for using your petrol driven vehicle when this is how they are making the batteries.

[@billvandergriff2764]

Not me I think they ought to nuke the planet

[@vibhor747]

Wow!!! Pure, raw, root level journalism done but Sidharth. Inspirational.

[@marcv2648]

It's fine make people aware of this, but trying to shut it down is the evil part. These men are supporting their families in the same way everyone in pre-industrial conditions does and did.

[@guylo88]

Imperialism ans slavery didnt go away, they just rebranded and have better marketing now. It amazes me that alls these EV companies and the people that drive them pat themselves on their back for being so eviromentally responsible, but noone discusses this.

[@dannygreen7473]

EV's are an environmental disaster.

[@nobody6032]

We're all slaves.

[@michaelswenson6599]

Corporate Imperialism

[@michaelswenson6599]

@@nobody6032 we're all slaves because we've been coerced to walk in darkness. If we walked in the light to know the truth, then we would be set free.

[@nobody6032]

@@michaelswenson6599 no, I mean literal slaves. Actual, physical working slaves.

[@masterchief7746]

A practical thing that can be made is raise donations for safety equipment for the people that dig in the cobalt mines and then we need to send a delegation that make sure the equipment is actually get to them safe and they wears it

[@Bcosmo555]

I really wish the MSM would circulate this clip on their 24 hr newscycle and get it trending on twitter. Rather than only showing a Rogan clip to trash him for having an opinion they don’t agree with. This is some real newsworthy shit right here

[@ssoffshore5111]

I can assure you, Elon won't be promoting this on Twitter! 😉

[@meadish]

@@ssoffshore5111 Possibly, but if there is one thing I've learned over the years is that you truly never know what Elon will do next - given his impulsive nature and his need to be revered as a real life superhero, he might actually decide to try to do something about this.

[@geemanbmw]

​@@meadishI would agree with your statement if Elon found a better substitute for cobalt which I have no idea if there is but if there is I agree with you he'd definitely bring it light and if there isn't I doubt he'd say anything it would be business suicide

[@c20h25n3o.]

It's like Louis CK said "you can have horses and candles and be nice to eachother or let someone far away suffer immeasurably, just so you can leave an angry YT comment on your phone while you're taking a shit" (or something to that extent). Even if this was known by everyone, we'd still allow it

[@jakefavre]

Then the MSM can't cry wacism and inequity because of swavery from the 1700's ...

[@boulderrrtown5597]

Australia has 18 percent of the worlds cobolt reserves but can only export 3 percent to market. We don’t have slaves etc safe and professional but I’d say that the world doesn’t want to pay more for cobalt when they get it cheaper with slaves peddling it

[@cspdx11]

So true. Same with 3rd world clothing sweat shops

[@rogbrogb5341]

Unfettered capitalism.

[@crayzmarc]

Oligarchy not capitalism.

[@lancepage1914]

Simple as that.

[@kilburn1313]

The bottom line $$$$$

[@amg9163]

The guest obviously knows his stuff, and I am impressed by how he started out sounding a bit nervous (in my opinion) and became confident and impassioned when describing the video.

[@FantaLiteBrav]

Didn't sound nervous at all.

[@TATERNUTS1]

Thank you for dropping the knowledge. Its extremely important people know whats really going on.

[@THIS---GUY]

Respect. One of the few people talking about modern slavery and not arguing about slavery that was eradicated generations ago. Today, something like 20,000,000 people live in literal concentration camps, forced labour slavery, and human trafficking conditions in Africa, China, India, Pakistan, Middle East, South America, etc - but most people only talk about slavery as if it is only a "White European/American institution". Thomas sowell video on the history of slavery is very eye-opening and often ignored historical reality - very similar to ignorance or denial of what's happening with modern slavery worldwide.

[@Kunfucious577]

And it’s always been that way and will stay that way. It’s just a sad truth.

[@terrylucas630]

Don’t forget Dane Calloways work also.

[@TheNancypoo]

Right?? Why doesn't Ibram Kendi talk about this???

[@smelltheglove2038]

Been pointing this out for years, guess what I was called? It starts with an “R” and ends with “acist”

[@THIS---GUY]

@@Geda.gede.gada.gadaoo absolute bs lol slavery in Africa existed generations before both the trans Atlantic european/american/african slave trade and the middle eastern/african slave trade. Slavery was an african institution just as much european/american/middle eastern/Asian instititution. Middle eastern- african slave trade predates european african trans-Atlantic. Middle eastern slavers were far more brutal than european/american ones. The Europeans and Americans bred their slaves which is why those countries have large populations of descendents of slaves today while middle eastern slavers castrated theirs and they didn't breed newer generations. The ships and death marches back to middle east were far more brutal and violent than European slave ships. The confinement and conditions of the ships for both trades were abhorrent im not excusing anything - it was a reality at the time.

[@emanuelmarchan3632]

The irony, as we watch on our smartphones 😢

[@ancientsoul5608]

Keep in mind too, this is just one example of industry that literally runs entirely off of human suffering. If people really knew the total cost of human suffering of our so-called "modern technological civilization"....and if people actually, in reality possessed empathy, we would mourn our ignorance, pray for forgiveness from our creator, and all go back to living in primitive village monasteries and embrace asceticism. But, in the aggregate of the human species, people would much rather keep their heads in the proverbial sand. The phrase "ignorance is bliss" cones to mind. I know some people will try to argue against this....but it's my absolute conviction that this is what's happening, and not a soul on earth could even attempt to convince me otherwise.

[@emanuelmarchan3632]

@@ancientsoul5608 I agree, our modern society is built on other's suffering, so that the better off societies can live their privileged lives.

[@ancientsoul5608]

@Emanuel Marchan Yeah...the type of people who run our world firmly believe it's better to reign as kings in a hell they control, than to serve and help one another in a co-created heaven where we cooperate and work together. It's an elitist system, especially once you start looking into the ancient beliefs of occultists. I mean just go skim through Morals & Dogma by Albert Pike and you'll find quote after quote of how "the profane" (his/their term for the average citizen, not mine) deserve to be misled into ignorance so they can be controlled and subjugated by "the elect". It's called the "bible of Freemasonry", and once you understand how powerful Freemasons and the occult theocracy are, you really start to understand the immense evil that's in control of our world.

[@erikmeri3962]

i am watching this on a microwave

[@dhess140]

That is irony. Admittedly, we are all part of the problem.

[@jumpa654]

I had no idea cobalt was so important. Learn something new everyday.

[@PushingDownDaisys]

Very important, same with those 3TG’s he talks about. Some of these materials appear in almost everything you own.

[@dean6708]

Look up phosphates and see how difficult its to get, it one of the main things used in the fertilizer that grows our crops. It's kinda scary how mankind operates on a tight rope.

[@morganmcgovern3125]

That shouldn’t be the only thing you take from this

[@Nindoty231]

There’s 30 lbs of Cobalt in each EV car battery. Tesla has a new battery that has less that 5 lbs, but I think it’s a shorter range battery.

[@Au1878-q4y]

Live under a fucking rock or what?

[@Thisisme1919]

We wouldn’t need so much of it if they didn’t drop a new iPhone every year and started messing with the ones we already own to drive us out to get the new one

[@miram2053]

Exactly

[@allenfromalameda5691]

What a horror show. “Never in human history has there been more suffering, that generated more profit ,and was linked to the lives of more people around the world.” It’s not hard to see why Mr. Kara isn’t being invited to present his findings at Ted Talks around the world or at the Consumer Electronics Show. I had no idea. I’ve heard that Cobalt is bad, but I’ve never understood why. Thanks for having him on Joe. This needs to end.

[@aynrandish9106]

The entire podcast is really worth a listen. I’m so glad that I don’t replace my phone very often like a lot of people do. My phone is 6 years old and even though I need a new one I’m not sure I can buy another knowing about how the battery was made. No EV for me.

[@gracefultimes]

Same here, I've had my phone for years now. Maybe it's time to go back to regular house phone and answering machine 😄 why not.

[@vanarprock4636]

same, im using iphone 5 still lol.

[@ktl9742]

CA's stupid government is mandating that all new vehicles for sale are EV by 2035

[@Nostromo2144]

Hydrogen cars it is then...

[@mikolajosypowicz2541]

How can tesla or apple force some thrid world countries to implement safe working standards?

[@alben-jkashiya2159]

As a Congolese, I am very grateful to see people from all over the world also talking about this unjust reality that my people in eastern DRC are living right now, for more than 30 years that the armies of two neighboring countries from the east (Rwanda and Uganda) have invaded and fought on the territories of eastern Congo and have generated millions of victims and hundreds of rebel groups, who are still there today for economic reasons for the benefit of these countries and their allies... An economic war for illegal and cheaper mining 😢

[@sajjadmirza4704]

Everyone thanking joe Rogan but not enough people thanking siddharth Kara for risking his life to bringing you the truth!

[@zlundraful]

Iam like afraid for all this ppl lifes. Usually when ppl start talking truth some shit happens to them. And i follow and listen this ppl that are at Rogans show. Respect to all that brings truth to us.

[@mzuggy]

This guy is doing such important work

[@ninjachrish]

This is why Joe is the best. Better than any news outlet and imo he has the best podcast. He's a normal smart dude who is seeking the information we all want to hear

[@bobbylewisfdl1166]

Amen to that Mike.

[@davidbruns1471]

So Joe and Elon are supporting slavery with their electric vehicles,Right?

[@adamr4198]

I truly hope new battery technology will make cobalt irrelevant like synthetic rubber replaced natural rubber’s market demand. The scale of this problem is so enormous and challenging to solve.

[@dougvuillemot8670]

Before cobalt was nicad after cobalt just another thing that needs mined. That's how it works.

[@jambro8467]

Kara deserves every journalist award known, and HOPEFULLY THE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE one day! Thank you sir!

[@bhuvskaya8898]

He'll be ignored by mainstream

[@jonathanlunger2775]

It reminds me of America's own industrial revolution. Children worked alongside their fathers in the coal mines to build up enough money to educate the youngest so they could escape the mines. It's a horrible situation but I don't know if it's better or worse than not allowing it to happen.

[@chickensalad7199]

I mean, it's definitly worse. Like wtf? We could always not be the ones to incur the cost. The ones raking in the profits won't be hurt by safe working conditions. It would literally only be a positive for society and humanity as a whole. That's the most cucked, boot licking faux-nuevo-optimism I've ever heard.

[@OGPatriot03]

I mean what are you going to do, have an outside army invade and deploy their own "responsible" corporations to extract the resources? One thing you actually could do is find technological alternatives to Cobalt's use in technology but even that is a bit of a slight on their local economy. - I think smaller nations should be educated on the dangers of selling their strategic resources to outside powers... but they already cut a deal with Chinese companies.. Ultimately I suspect the native population allowed this to happen.

[@anthrax8250]

I haven’t paid formal respects but I will informally thank you now. Joe thank you for being a voice and gateway to information we would otherwise not be exposed to. Always team Joe 🔥

[@TjTj74]

Ross Kemp done a show about this in the UK about 15yrs ago.It got massive recognition but it still continues,probably now more so than ever

[@wdbldr67]

Cobalt (Co) is a metal used in numerous diverse commercial, industrial, and military applications, many of which are strategic and critical. On a global basis, the leading use of cobalt is in rechargeable battery electrodes. Superalloys, which are used to make parts for gas turbine engines, are another major use for cobalt. Cobalt is also used to make airbags in automobiles; catalysts for the petroleum and chemical industries; cemented carbides (also called hardmetals) and diamond tools; corrosion- and wear-resistant alloys; drying agents for paints, varnishes, and inks; dyes and pigments; ground coats for porcelain enamels; high-speed steels; magnetic recording media; magnets; and steel-belted radial tires

[@tonyoriordan9998]

Don't forget hips knees and other metal implants

[@wdbldr67]

@@tonyoriordan9998 Thanks. It is a travesty in the Congo for sure, but to suggest that Batteries enslaved those poor people when it's their own govt and the awful poverty that drives them to work for crumbs in those conditions.

[@estelombo]

@@wdbldr67 who keeps their govt in power despite these revelations??? This part of the world is kept in conflict on purpose......and that purpose is more profit for everyone pushing the current agenda in the west

[@wdbldr67]

@@estelombo I cant argue with that. But when you say west simply infer the rest of the modern world and not just the West. What is happening there is a global problem.

[@estelombo]

@wdbldr67 the West refers to all cabal countries. All countries constantly bombarded with propaganda and nonsense, in order to further the profits of corporations, at the expense of quality of life.