The DJI Avata Drone + New FPV Goggles! - REVIEW

[@Deathdezine]

So after hearing DJI statement on the non backwards compatibility- basically I got that they tried to give the fpv community hope that it will become backwards compatible but going off there previous actions ex. canvas mode fiasco , there just gonna discontinue the vista/air unit and make you buy the new v2 air unit.

[@NegativeSum]

Yea, I feel the same way. They made the drone compatible with the older goggles. So why not make the new goggles compatible with the AU/Vista. Typical DJI, and that's why I'm migrating all my drones away from DJI. They're going to eventually do to themselves, what FrSky did. Remember DJI, you're never too big to fail, and customers determine your future. Something a lot of companies of today could use a lesson in.

[@mdk42o74]

How is this a upgraid if the v2 does anilog old air units and new system

[@yuranium]

smart business move to maximize profitability. the Chinese are very cunning businessmen.

[@javierortiz1981]

Good movement making drone compatible with Goggles V2 so if in the future they want to sell more new goggles and vista v1 and V2 units, they will have to make it compatible. Think that the drone is a good starting point for this people who wants to start making fpv cinematic videos and include it as other professional tool without the learning process of the traditional fpv systems.

[@oziumentisis]

@@javierortiz1981 nobody wants to lug around 5 different goggles for different crafts of various setups unless you are in production. As it is, an expensive tool that has zero crossover.

[@julianbauer8655]

As a FPV Goggles V2 user I really hope they will make the new Goggles backwards compatible with the air unti and vista. Otherwise I will stay with my current ones.

[@PaulSokolov]

I saw FPV VTX module into regular 5" testing drone... Will be soon

[@Ellexis]

30:00 Who else noticed the mosquito next to Bubby's hair getting ready to "rip-it"? lol Seems like everyone is reviewing the DJI Avata, but your review is the best so far by a long shot! You really put it through the paces!

[@DjanFox]

Best Review that makes me to buy my first ever Drone.

[@derekfield4164]

I just wanna say this is the vid I was looking for. All the other reviews were the same, some manual mode but they mostly did dives. You guys on the other hand just let it rip and really showed what the drone could do. When I do buy the Avata it definitely will be from your site.

[@FPFPV]

The new Goggles 2 are an instant buy for me IF they will support the existing air units and vistas. If they won't then I don't care about the new goggles, the older V2 will simply be the superior goggles due to better compatibility.

[@toxicfpv304]

Buy a few pairs if possible and keep in box. Because they are going to be like gold when they are out of stock/production being the only goggle to do both.

[@kingbirdfpv]

What about if the O3+ is in the new Air Unit and it give a way more solid transmission and penetration for our 5" quads??

[@FPFPV]

@@kingbirdfpv I'm sure it will have great range and penetration. But it will need to have the 1200mW hack and there needs to be a smaller, Caddx Vista-like Air Unit Lite before I will consider upgrading my quads.

[@kingbirdfpv]

@@FPFPV got it! I'll wait until Christmas to decide. This time I'll avoid an impulsive buy. Also wonder what HDzero will bring to the table.

[@md.m.8372]

@@kingbirdfpv if it provides range as good as the DJI FPV drone id have to bite on the new goggles whether they are backwards compatible or not. Otherwise I'd probably have to pass if they ain't backwards compatible & the new air unit doesn't really offer anything other than better image quality

[@mattwilson1305]

Goggles are not compatible with the existing air units/vista's? What in the hell were they thinking?

[@NightRiderFPV]

I was set to pre order until I heard this… I wonder if the new air units will require rebinding like the current drone.

[@borisdamole]

I would have been surprised if they WERE backwards compatible. Dji loves making you buy the same thing twice.

[@mattwilson1305]

@@NightRiderFPV same, was going to pre-order but if not usable with vistas then no point to use for Freestyle imo. They screwed up big time

[@mattwilson1305]

@@borisdamole never understood the hate for dji until now. Really wanted those goggles.

[@Deathdezine]

@@NightRiderFPV DJI is not in it for the people. There a company so there focused on money. Backwards compatibility makes them less money so that’s no shocker they went that route. I don’t like that they are that way either and as much hate as they get they make great products….that work on release.

[@jesseparbhu6125]

Hope these two stay friends forever, they click so good together and we get great content in return! 😊

[@mikebergman1817]

I think we need to make it known (politely, yet stern) that we need backwards compatibility. They can either sell thousands of goggles to the fpv community, or not. Fpv pilots will write off Dji if they don’t offer backwards compatibility.

[@EliteFpv]

1000%

[@ryanbroesche1711]

Totally unreal after you spend a $1000 w laggg>

[@NegativeSum]

@@ryanbroesche1711 Not totally unreal. I'm already migrating away from DJI. Some sucker out there will be overjoyed with excitement to take the old gear off my hands. There's one born every day. 🤷

[@NegativeSum]

Bingo!

[@happyvalley808]

Agreed!

[@solen1849]

DJI just keeps killing it, what a crazy company. I was watching someone testing the radio systems on the mavics - and he said there is A LOT of headroom on the range that is not even used. When you first turn it on occusync boosts to like over 2-3 watts. Just crazy. There is still something special to me about building something myself. I understand how its hard it took me years to finally invest, but it has been so rewarding for me putting ELRS on a quad and getting it to work. Tweaking it how I want. Great job though DJI. If it wasn't for DJI I would NEVER have flown a drone.

[@lyftedmedia]

One of the best and most fun reviews out there!

[@trajanfpv]

Would have ordered the whole setup if they had announced the reverse compatibility of the goggles. Now I will wait and see what else comes out or if they “fix” the goggles to have legacy mode.

[@MadVultureFPV]

Exactly here!

[@NegativeSum]

I still wouldn't buy it, based on their attitude with this. I refuse to waste anymore money on DJI products for Fpv.

[@mathewclark6971]

Was just about to buy the full kit off dji. With the golden ticket.. then you said goggles only compatible with the avata Nope Gonna wait until goggles are open

[@johnny_123b]

What is the golden ticket?

[@phiveone]

@@johnny_123b Permission from the wife?

[@cltweddings]

called these guys late one night they called me back next day had a great chat appreciate the insight cant wait to dive into fpv good crew from what I can tell

[@Loki_Morningstar666]

Hands down the best review of the Avata!!!

[@fpvdave]

Looking forward to becoming compatible with the vista units I already have

[@kelsey7k]

I'll probably eventually phase over to walksnail, if dji doesn't add original air unit/vista compatibility to the goggles2 neat cinewhoop tho :)

[@Free_3.0]

I knew I came to the right place to review this release. I miss you guys!

[@timroxck]

Bubbys reaction to the motion controller is my favorite!

[@morninghope1]

I've seen quite a few reviews. This was the best! Really enjoyed watching the whole thing and then some.

[@GregorPQ]

"You could actually use this." Highest praise possible:)

[@Gurusi]

Walksnail/FS are gonna love this. I think it will bring a lot of people back. Maybe backwards compatibility will help retention (if DJI come through).

[@ryanbailey9363]

The no backwards compatibility of DJI has been the best advertisement for Fatshark/Walksnail/HDZero I've seen for a while

[@Letsgo1964forever]

DJI did it again! A cinewhoop for the people! Love the video and you having lots of fun flying around and Bubby is the boss!!!

[@juanpaz2911]

I hope they are making the Goggles backwards compatible, otherwise I think its a huge fail.

[@ChrisParayno]

If you want to remain the "past" then that's no big deal. People complained with analog and digital. This is the next step. Is it right, no.

[@shareobj]

Don't know about new goggles, but my old dji goggles v2 after firmware update can see DJI Avata. Hope new goggles will see old aircrafts as well.

[@exiledfpv]

Awesome job, Rotor Riot!!!! Absolutely loved Bubby's initial reaction with the motion controller!!!

[@hash_fpv]

If the new goggles were backwards compatible with the vista and dji airunit I would have ordered the Avata and goggles today. I hope DJI change there mind.

[@johnny_123b]

Same. Just greedy corporate people taking over the otherwise amazing company

[@TechTimeElectronics]

Dgi's problem is that they probably have it in their head that if people switch to another system AKA walk snail, then none of that hardware is compatible with their air units so why should their new stuff be compatible

[@mr.oizofpv5961]

same here. They have no idea how many money they lost with this move. Backward compatibility was there untill 2 weeks ago... then they decided to block it .

[@holeshotfpv4971]

Same

[@robertm7273]

Same here, They have to make it possible, otherwise they will loose a lot of sales from people like us!!!

[@bwcritch]

The prepared statement about the new goggles compatibility with older equipment. "DJI evaluate customer reaction and market demand" WTF, have they been ignoring all the Reddit, Twitter, FaceBook, etc. chatter? At this time I am not leaving DJI, but if they are going to be so disconnected with their customers I have fewer and fewer reasons to stay with DJI as other HD options are now out there.

[@TechTimeElectronics]

Yeah that's a known bug... for some reason my old air units won't work with the new goggles

[@NegativeSum]

My advice would be to get out before you're too heavily invested, unless you already are of course. If so, then do as I have, and find someone to take your old DJI gear off your hands. There are plenty of diehard DJI fans out there who would love to scoop up some used Goggles, Vistas and Air Units.

[@bwcritch]

@@NegativeSum That's horrible advice for anyone who already has DJI. What does "too heavily invested" mean anyhow? If someone has goggles and few quads setup, why would they sell everything at a loss? So, hypothetically, if person had goggles and two quads, what sell all the DJI stuff for what, $500-$600, maybe, then go and spend $600 to $1k to get into something else, just to say I don't have DJI? And then replace it with what? There are no other HD products that compare to DJI at this very moment. Sure there are a couple companies that are up and coming, but they aren't there yet. None of this means I am going to stay with DJI forever, but if my current stuff works, why sell it unless it is to replace it with something better?

[@mdk42o74]

Avatar said they working on a Modular hd0 goggles are looking better and better can use hd0 for racing. Avitar for free style. And it going to have video in and out i got to say hd0 is looking better and better

[@MrCoffis]

@@NMCWatkins When people start flocking to hd0 and walksnail who actually listen to customer demand then and only then they will listen.

[@MaxRovensky]

Does this thing support pitch inversion or is it still impossible for me to fly? 😃

[@Drabbi1337]

just ordered the avata. on friday it arrives, I'm so excited

[@dcap01870]

thank you! been looking for some acro footage, first video i can find with real flying. Good job!!!

[@harm679]

Finally a review that shows what the avata really can do!!!!!

[@Robin-Visser]

Ill wait for the Joshua Bardwell review. Youve gotta love that dude😍

[@Timuchee23]

How did you record the menu screen? 🤔

[@ThrunRC]

Great video guys. It´s cool to see that pro pilots have so much fun with this 😂 Happy avataing 🤣

[@kenkeng5824]

New to FPV. Looks exciting. Pulling the plug tomorrow.

[@lythnic5536]

This is the first review video I've seen that showcases the movement with the head. Now that I know it can strafe with the motion controller i really want one

[@invention_beats]

Bubby's Milky Way t-shirt is dope af

[@BubbyFPV]

Thx fam

[@rakr9334]

As an analog pilot who tries to choose a new HD ecosystem this video conviced me to buy walksnail.

[@Phoenix4montana]

😆 🤣 😂

[@deyarko]

That 1st reaction 😂😂 “OMG” #excitment if I had a tail it would wag….😂😂 I went and kopt one since watching great sales pitch guys 😂

[@eattravelfpv]

Finally, a proper review from real FPV pilot's perspective. I always curious, can avata do a freestyle stuff and Rotor Riot show us what avata can do! Most reviews out there are only talk about what avata can do as an aerial drone.

[@UneBoleeDAir_Photo-Tech]

Shredding part rocks really hard, thanks a lot ! :)

[@Phuong.Nguyen-]

Awesome video and excellent review :)

[@DubsciencePhotographyFilm]

As a content creator and beginner drone pilot, I'm really looking forward to making this purchase.

[@djdubz]

Great vid. As someone that's invested in dji v1/v2, hd zero, and walksnail's system, can't help myself and ordered my avata pro kit. One thing that I am curious to see is if this has the same limitations that the dji app does for flying zones. If so, that may take away from the whole purpose of a cinewhoop. e.g. Can I fly inside? Can I pull this thing out anywhere and fly it? Or is the dji app going to prevent us from doing that. If so, not sure why they went with a cinewhoop form factor; that kinda takes away/limits us, from what a cinewhoop is for....

[@LWJCarroll]

A very informative review. Noticing its best to watch several as different pilots are picking up on or focused on different aspects. Eg you blokes showed up the Headtracking using the Motion controller very well! Thanks Laurie NZ. Towerless in Tokoroa…

[@graerial]

I’ve built 20+ drones for myself and others. Looks promising. New googles for their drones only are a clear no go for me. They can be off the charts quality but if they stay locked in DJI pre-built only they are worthless to me and won’t scale. I was literally about to but the full pro kit, in the cart, but no commitment to goggles being able to be used with my own builds with an updated air unit. I’ll move on. There are other options now and in the future. If DJI doesn’t want to open up to those that build their own drones by providing updated air units etc. That’s chill. I’ll move on and invest my money into a company more open to custom builds. I own 2 sets of DJI FPV goggles (v1 & v2) and own 20+ DJI / Caddx air units. I’m sure I’ll by 20+ more video transmitters in the future. Will see if they are DJI brand or someone else… There’s my customer feedback DJI. Your move… PS. To have to wait for customer demand / feedback on this issue is a clear indicator how out of touch with the FPV community you really are. I’d suggest DJI sorts that out or just sticks to “Mavic style” cinema drones.

[@blakec4037]

Thank You!!!! I can’t believe DJI did not at least make the goggles compatible with the Air unit. I also had the complete kit in my cart and listened to this video when he said they did not work with the air unit. I just left the website-so much money was wasted on this company.

[@StR8KiLLA_FPV]

When will people learn that dji isn't an fpv company... we are a super super tiny fraction of thier sales... its like asking Android to incorporate apple tech... be happy we got anything from them

[@Marcus2750-u1t]

There is NOTHING else that compares! Cause walk snail or data snail whatever it is doesnt come close to even comparing….

[@phynyxstryker]

Wait until remote-id is enforced... Cross fingers someone will come out with a retro fit for the older air units.

[@StR8KiLLA_FPV]

@@phynyxstryker lol what is remote id really gunna do? I've never even registered my quads... no cop has ever cared I was ripping a quad much less asked me for the required items to do so lol.

[@erikvf7]

DJI, you should make 2 things: - Make the new googles back compatible with OG Air Units. - Enable any form of HDMI/USB-C Video IN Than I'll buy that google right away!

[@farral]

In other review I've heard that it does support DLNA, which, although not the best solution, it is something that can be used for watching movies from a NAS in a local wifi network. Probably also from a smartphone if there are apps for that, like PLEX or something

[@ladronefpv4484]

Fun in the puru state. Thanks for the review

[@cathrerinezetadrones3169]

Love bubby reactions

[@WorkJoker]

Someone please explain what he did on the controller at 19mins which the screw driver?

[@KellDogg1965]

The durability surprised me the most! And I hear that the shell will be sold separately to fix yourself! I thought using the motion controller would be a gimmick but being able to use the head tracker is wild!!!

[@sphexes]

I'm impressed. I really thought this set of pilots would have ripped this to shreds literally and figuratively. Great review.

[@plutonians6680]

Pulled the trigger just for the new controller. Needed to experience that… but I personally can’t stand cinewhoops and I’m really curious if the sound can be reduced by removing prop guards etc

[@360vroomers]

So can it fly reliably with GPS indoors through small gaps (with enough light)?

[@barkvarkie_fpv8623]

Not sure why you would need GPS to fly through gaps?

[@benargee]

I think it uses optical tracking to fly steady inside if it's not in Acro mode. I think the Mavics are the same to hold hover indoors.

[@360vroomers]

@@benargee Thanks. I wonder if it's reliable enough for precision flying.

[@benargee]

@@360vroomers I think the video demonstrated it pretty well

[@360vroomers]

@@benargee I saw the indoor low light and its limits but i didn't see an indoor flight with regular light.

[@indiemoto]

Did you lock the horizon in the mini golf course? May that would help the movement

[@moretoliving2236]

I am really confused. Do goggles 2 work with dji fpv drone? Forget about caddx and vistas. Are goggles 2 compatible with dji fpv drone that they released in 2021?

[@stgalaska]

Thank you for showing what Avata can do in manual.

[@HazzardLuke]

Love to c yall having fun.

[@jamesdavies1423]

Great Review covering many Aspects, DJI have to make the Goggles 2 compatible with the Mavic 3 / Mini 3 series!

[@OLCtv]

He tryna kill the drone beo chill🤦🏿‍♂️🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@jagwathney]

Yes!! if I could have the ability to use the Goggles 2 with my air units and vistas I would most certainly buy them.

[@tong.clement]

20:00 is the most important bit. Thanks for demoing the manual flight

[@gearscb4768]

i have recently got a fpv and think your builds are pretty nice, great video, i want to do investments with on to use some of your builds.

[@ecoaventurasdelistmo]

can you put a led stripe and fly inside? go through alot of concrete walls

[@FlyZoneFpv]

Awesome Review my dudes. I’m impressed 🤘🏻👊🏻👊🏻 I definitely would love to see the goggles used with our traditional fpv drones or have the new Air units compatible with the DJI v2 goggles.

[@YonnBurgos]

thanks for the review! I just ordered one for myself! Looking forward to get it soon!

[@calebgrefe8922]

I have always wanted to try a head tracker for an fpv drone, ONLY on the vertical axis though. I think it could add a lot of versatility not being locked to one camera angle

[@timauritox]

This is the best review no the Avata! Thank you guys

[@sergioziroga4184]

Hello can I use this avata drone with the Big DJI FPV Remote Controller? The one I fly with the Air unit? The Big One?

[@DavidOwensuk]

Great video! Love flying the Avata

[@kuldeepyadavtv]

Should I buy this dji avata or make one for myself I am new to fpv

[@ZentaRobotics]

I'm only interested in the goggles if DJI add backward compatibly. And full Btfl OSD canvas support.

[@jimsdroneing]

wow what a test and review friggin amazing guys

[@MarkAir]

The Headphone port is for streaming video to the Googles, an excellent feature for enjoying content!

[@zorianfpv]

"DJI will evaluate customer reaction", Basically if we don't buy the Avata or their air unit v2 when it comes out, they might expand compatibility to the og air unit.

[@bp328i]

So currently the new goggles only work with the Avata. Guess that means I'm currently still waiting because I have ZERO interest in the Avata. Even if the new goggles weren't backwards compatible I would have ordered today if there was a new "Air Unit" that the new goggles work with and refitted all my quads.

[@MadVultureFPV]

Exactly feeling bro, I would buy the DJI Goggles 2 if that works with all my vistas for sure!

[@NegativeSum]

No way I would refit all my AU/Vista quads, when they have perfectly capable systems in them already. DJI could easily make the Goggles backwards compatible, they just chose not to. DJI would love for you to refit it all though, and that's why the new goggles will work with the new AU when it arrives. Typical greedy corp.

[@bp328i]

@@NegativeSum I would absolutely prefer the new goggles be backwards compatible. I have the v1 goggles and 11 quads running either a Vista or Air Unit. They’re all pushing 3 years old and pretty beat up so I’m going to be updating then within the next year either way. Being backwards compatible would be nice while I updated them one at a time but not a dealbreaker for me because I have to update them anyways.

[@jasonmeade9000]

Another brilliant creation from DJI! It's obvious they paid close attention to improving the transmission and overall intuitive functions of the drone!

[@tekstyle1679]

I would like to upgrade my goggles from v1 to g2 - It NEEDS to work with existing air units/ vista's or if the tech has changed with a signicant improvement in latency/ video quality I'd be willing to get new air units. Make it happen!

[@ChrisParayno]

Why don't people realize this has never been djis motto?

[@earnestmarshall4694]

Flight experience game strong!!! Can't wait to have this drone soon!

[@lynsmith1096]

Great review and shots.

[@retry0612]

how about fogging in the lens? I want to know about new one and old one too

[@WarbirdFan66]

Good Job, on the review Video, specilly because you guys tested it with the motion controller

[@BloodHoundDiesel]

that deer footage was awesome! :D

[@ютюбошна]

amazing guys! cheers

[@hazonku]

I'm fairly impressed with the nifty joystick but even more impressed with what little freestyle this little thing could do (albeit that'd be stupid). THIS is actually what I'd expect from a $1,300+ cine system. Be able to do ALL the cine you want but also a little freestyle too if you wanna get fancy or have a client who doesn't understand drones but demands more on the day & is willing to pay for the risk involved.

[@hongk0ngfu3y]

can you fly the avata with old v1/v2 goggles and the old dji controller?

[@80xavior]

What cable do I need to have the secondary view on the phone or tablet? C TO IPHONE OR DROID?

[@MSR.]

Glad you guys sent it 👊 Good to know it can survive some tumbles, the new goggles 🥽 just need to be backwards compatible for sure. Too many people are invested in the older video system and it would be great to be able to move forward with the new equipment while still utilizing the older stuff as well like the Dji V2 goggles can apparently do.

[@LittleBeeBecca]

really interesting! I quite like the motion controller. I thought it was stupid at first, but I like it in your video. I hear the new DJI goggles won't connect to the DJI FPV :( it's strange Avata can work with old DJI glasses but vice versa new glasses can't work with older... I guess they want to increase sales of the DJI Avata... durability looks great

[@albertsaerong]

Can you use dji v2 goggle's battery with the new goggle 2?

[@alembicfodera]

We want to use the Goggles with the Vista, and Air Unit! Bonus....It has lens focus!!

[@RickLaBanca]

It seems they sell just the goggles also but why, if there are no air units for it?

[@覃炫逵]

Great, brother. Can you tell me how to turn on M mode? My area is restricted.

[@SunriseWaterMedia]

Is there a way to turn off the downward sensors while flying in normal or sport mode?

[@timorohde95]

idk if i missed it but can we use out V2 goggles for it?

[@luftstolle]

Can you use head-tracking together with the old controller?

[@mcrobie27]

So I know its fairly new to the markets so there is not that much info out there. But, my question is, I have the first gen FPV from DJI and I am wondering if this new AVATA would work with the remote and goggles from that? If so I would definitely be interested in just getting the drone itself. Anyone know if this is the case?

[@Just4FunRC]

v1? no

[@mcrobie27]

@@Just4FunRC so does the version 2 work? I’ve been seeing conflicting reports that the goggles that come with the DJI fpv will work.

[@marquesschroeder4891]

I've been trying to find this answer as well! I'll keep on eye on your comment.

[@Just4FunRC]

@@marquesschroeder4891 v2 works it runs a duel op system for both dji air/vista and the dji fpv drone. The v1 didnt have that software nor capeable hardware. The new google has yet to release firmware able to run the dji air/vista but it has the hardware for me thinks

[@mcrobie27]

Ok so according to DJIs specs under their app it does say that it will work with the DJI FPV goggle V2. So the ones that come with the full FPV drone will work. Definitely still looking into it but that’s encouraging.

[@cathrerinezetadrones3169]

Yes’m let’s get that new google and the controller compatible on everything!!!

[@TAB022O]

what a wonderful head tracking...

[@thatguycarlos]

the second air unit and air unit lite compatibility is confirmed, i'm ordering the goggles.