Did DJI make a mistake with the Avata FPV Drone?

[@ronaldojoe3011]

I just wish there was an option to choose whether you'd want the motion controller or the traditional controller with your purchase.

[@edwardtse8631]

They tried and no one buy the motion controller

[@Euphorio]

Agreed, but I think you can connect other DJI controllers

[@jonv570]

@@Euphorio do you know if I could use pro2 controller with it?

[@Jm3rv]

We all do but they had overstock of unsold motion controllers they needed to get rid of.

[@billcosby5326]

Preach I want to buy one but they give no option for just the head set no remote

[@DanielBarrios83]

I have to agree. I’ve got the avata the first day, and since I’ve not been able to get the normal remote controller (out of stock) everywhere, I’ve been using the motion controller and I’m surprised how accurate it is. I’ve also been practicing in drone simulator (liftoff) for around 20 hours and even though now I can do cool stuff must of those ticks I don think I wanna try at least right now with the real drone. Definitely I’ll be using the motion controller for interiors and the normal controller to have fun outdoors

[@PastunesMusic]

I received my Avata on Monday and it being my first FPV drone but having owned a MA2 and Mavic 3 I was excited to use it to get those sick ‘FPV’ shots you can’t get with a normal drone. So you can probably guess I was very bummed to learn (after using the Motion Controller) that I basically bought a kit with training wheels I can’t remove without spending another $200 on another controller that’s currently out of stock. Sigh.

[@elvismaldonado2631]

I just placed an ordered from drone nerds, call them to make sure it was in stock, and it just arrived today.

[@wesleychapman9001]

As much as I like this drone and really want it, I won't buy it until a proper controller comes with it for the price. The drone plus the new v2 goggles, an extra battery, and the proper two-hands controller puts this up near $2,000 USD in price. Yet if we are to save money and just use the motion controller, we don't have the full functionality of the drone; which also feels like a rip-off. I think it's very misleading of DJI to advertise this drone with so much content from influencers all using the larger controller, only to quietly leave out that it's not included. I do appreciate Matti's review of the motion controller to really test out how customers will most often experience the drone, but till a proper controller is added I'd rather have a Mini 3 pro for half the price, a much longer battery life, under 249g in weight, and a proper controller.

[@mattih]

Yea I didn’t know until it launched 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@JoseAlmeida-oy3mq]

Amén!!!!!

[@OverTheTopLive]

I feel like the complete package requires both but DJI doesn't offere a complete package because there is another function only a few mention which is the head motion control with the motion controller but I think only Roter Riot demonstrated this. That feature of being able to control the camera by looking around and and panning and tilting with the motion controller seems like a big deal for some creative cinematography!

[@OverTheTopLive]

@@mattih No one could blame you creators but I love this video and it makes a valid point about newb ability I know a lot of people who destroyed the OG FPV within a day. Now we need another video about the head motion controls in the new goggles please?!

[@BlueDroneBlues]

@@OverTheTopLive Yea, I tried the motion control on the new goggles 2 and found you have to turn your head in the direction you want to go, but not just tilt left or right, but you have to turn around and face the other direction to come back with the drone. I didn't mess with it too much. The motion controller is just much better and less nauseating than using the goggles to fly around. Like others, wish we all would have gotten the right controller and at the very least this is the 1st time buying a drone that came with no carrying case that DJI now wants to jack all its customers another $129 bucks I think for it.

[@mattih]

confession... I ordered 4 more of these 😂 thats how much I like them

[@Fishcentral]

Hello Edit We Love ya Matt

[@AlBashier]

Can I have 1 sir Matti. 😁

[@JDMediaMusic_]

love this series ...you're like a kid in a candy store

[@CristianMercadoYT]

I can't wait to get one!

[@Fishcentral]

Norway is......Beautiful

[@B2BOY]

Thank you bro.I’m creating music videos in japan so what’s best for it bro??? FX3 ? FX6? Please reply for it🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

[@miichaelhickey]

Thanks for the review of the Motion Controller, very few have. I have been flying my Air 2 and now my Air 2s and Mini 2 for about 2 years. My flying partner and I both got the Avata, delivery on Friday. He does not want to use Manual ever but I do and so after getting used to the Motion Controller and hours on the Sim I am going to start flying, that is after I get the Controller. Thanks for the inspiring review

[@mattih]

Yea it’s actually really fun but if you want the really cool looking shots you gotta go full manual mode 🙌🏻

[@ChrisParayno]

Fly in a sim

[@Exploredinary]

including the motion controller rather than the more difficult one was a sign they care about the consumer and their enjoyment, rather than making money off of them knowing they would crash right away (and maybe buy another or pay to fix it) if they included the other controller. I say its a plus that they included the easier controller, and once people become accustomed to FPV, they can buy the other controller

[@soggyrice5338]

Too bad it’s never in stock

[@mbusoguma5504]

This video was so immersive for some reason. The fun really translated. Reminded me of that iPhone 11 one... Good show

[@robloxprincess8218]

Never wanted to try fpv until Avata. It’s a smart choice they made the Motion Controller as part of the combo for this fpv drone as it’s much more beginner friendly it seems.

[@merino83]

bUt DiD DjI mAkE a MiStAke?!!?!!1

[@brettyg76]

Having NEVER flown a drone at all (zero interest in drones).... a motion controller would be pivotal for me to save me the hundreds of dollars I paid for the drone... it looks quite easy for a beginner to fly and I would never use a regular controller. Well done to DJI for making fpv drones accessible to everyone, especially beginners.

[@kevinvesey7852]

I have an fpv with both controllers, the motion is sometimes fun to use, but its such a great way to let friends or family fly the drone easily. Plus you can still fly it in sports mode with it

[@CarlosHernandez.RentaHouse]

It’s easy and with this controller it seems like anyone can fly a dji avata however if you want to fly on manual mode with the motion controller is a completely torture and it’s easier for you to crash

[@Rollinjoint]

this was more thrilling than watching a thriller movie lool especially when your friend hit the tree lol

[@TheBassAckwards]

I just got it yesterday and I did pretty well. My 17 year old did as well, both with the motion controller. I did hit some leaves in a tree, but it didn't crash. I was also chased by a hawk, but luckily it didn't catch the drone. I did lost connection twice, which I was not happy with, especially considered the drone wasn't only a few houses away. I haven't reviewed the footage I took yet either. Not sure why it doesn't save to my phone like it used to. My Air 2 stopped doing that as well

[@Rollinjoint]

can't believe a hawk cahsed it lool

[@BlueDroneBlues]

I find it funny after this being out for a year, people still don't know how to work it. It even shows you how in a small training session before you actually fly for the 1st time. You don't turn it left or right. You tilt it left, right forward and back to get it to do what you want. tilt left - go left, tilt right - go right and so on. I do find using it, that it seems to take more to when you want to rise and descend with the controller you have to go forward and back much twice as much to get it to do the same action tilting left and right. Pity there isn't an adjustment for that. Avata works pretty good with the motion controller, but it is no replacement I can tell for the controller 2. It is however; a lot of fun.

[@TalkFishTVHawaiianDan]

Matti, so fun watching you two having fun!

[@sneakergearz]

What lens are you using? Some vignetting with the active stabilization but still looks good.

[@andrewut7ya511]

Already made a comment about the drone but i have to say, that new pilot did a great job on his first flight. Actually impressed.

[@HeyitsmeSarah]

I actually love how intuitive the Motion Controller is. It’s fun! No need to fly on manual mode to have fun!

[@mcandy007YT]

I purchased it as a complete noob in FPV. (I have a Mavic Pro too) and I am so glad that the motion controllers comes with it. Its brings FPV style flying to everyone. So even my mom can expierence it. However I hope I can order soon the controller because I want to learn flying in manual mode.

[@juanmaria5377]

Vende ese mavic pro esta viejo ya

[@LiamApilado]

Its so fun to watch fpv videos like this

[@NathanMcBride]

Yeah personally I never used the motion controller throughout my campaign video but it is a fun tool to use here and there

[@TeppoHaapoja]

Tyler you are a freakin daredevil, cant believe you went through the trees!

[@TechNicolas]

Awesome and thanks Matti for this update! I just bought the avata and was annoyed that I can't avoid the purchase of the motion controller... Because, if you also want to buy the new googles you have tobuy the full package + the fly more + the fpv remote.... so your nearly hitting 2k BUT I'm a total beginner... so I can enjoy the drone by flying from the start with the motion controller, till I practiced enough with the manual mode in the simulator.... I can´t wait to put in the first shots in my video. All the best from Germany Nicolas

[@ChrisParayno]

I thought the motion controller is better than most people think, especially for newbs. I was shooting gaps with in a minute unlike when i first started full acro/manual with my other drones. This being said, it doesn't "dive" or pitch fast enough unlike a traditional fpv drone. Can we use this setup for professional work, yeah i think so but i feel its easier with a controller.

[@ricci.hidalgo]

Thanks for clarifying that the RC controller gives you more control on the FPV drone but also requires to be a more experimented pilot.

[@mattih]

100% 🙌🏻

[@bp328i]

But it doesn’t require more experience, the drone wasn’t in the same mode for each test.

[@ricci.hidalgo]

​@@bp328i OK, that is because the motion controller does not support currently manual mode as far as I understand.

[@bp328i]

@@ricci.hidalgo Correct it doesn’t, but the drone would fly just as easy with the normal controller if it wasn’t in manual mode.

[@sil3ntscr3amlx]

@@mattih But you can fly the Avata in normal/sport mode with the RC controller and all the in built safety right?

[@Colazsmithtv]

I'm awaiting my avata....I have the dji fpv and I'm scared to fly it. But I think this is way easier

[@biancavance77]

The original controller with the first fpv is just as easy because you can fly it in normal mode, then sport mode the when fully ready you can throw it in Manuel mode os either way, still feel the first remote is way better for the fact that you can switch modes. The motion controller is defiantly for beginners .

[@ukulekci]

I was thinking about buying this drone as a beginner and your video really helped me a lot. Could you please also share an actual footage from a flight with motion controller? FPV shot looks amazing but also comparing the footages while flying with normal controller and motion controller can be really helpful for people like me. Thank you so much.

[@KrisLuckPhoto]

Can't believe they didnt add the regular controller option. My bet is it's an out of stock issue, and/or perhaps may be even working on a new and improved fpv controller to add at a later date this year.

[@ryanmoore7098]

Probably an excess of motion controllers. People weren’t buying them for the Fpv drone. So this is a way to get rid of them and force sales of the radio in addition.

[@davidmaskew]

I agree it's probably that they have a load of motion controllers as nobody was buying them and this is a way to get them out there. I don't think they're a bad idea as I've never flown FPV so it would be good for me but it's not proper FPV is it 😂

[@VillanuevaFilms]

Wat type camera r u using to film your self?

[@EduardoMattos]

I just got a DJI FPV with motion controller, I'm super excited to use it !

[@Oziaudiovisual.]

Thanks for your support🥳 Hit me up on telegram above 👏

[@RidewithRahul444]

Planning to buy a DJI. Wondering if Mini3 pro and Avata can be launched from a apartment balcony? Would it RTH back the the balcony? Kinda thinking it may not considering how gps works? How about an open terrace?

[@willianb.6475]

Well, one thing for sure. You have nailed why DJI is only shipping the RC controller in the most expensive combo. Most of us (nom FPV pilots) will not need it. Honestly, the flight scenes with the motion controller are already awesome. Question: Can you explore more on the motion controller when diving , flying in circle around a subject or even flying backwards? Thanks

[@justinmunford2164]

You can’t dive, roll or flip with the motion controller. The motion controller doesn’t have manual option like the FPV remote does

[@justinmunford2164]

You can’t dive, roll or flip with the motion controller. The motion controller doesn’t have manual option like the FPV remote does

[@CK3DPRINTS]

I love how all of us slllooowww doowwwnnn ooouuurrr speech when flying fpv and making vids 🤣

[@SanMiguelBulls]

Man, this video is so helpful, it’s helping me with my decision to get one, just started playing with drones and this helps tremendously

[@jeremyt.2540]

Great video explaining the difference between the 2. Imo I think it was a smart move by DJI to release the motion remote to prevent damage claims from skyrocketing. Buying the FPV remote is practical for experienced users, but it’s at the same time the user option to buy the remote is kinda equates to an insurance subscription cost to to Subsidize the cost it would take DJI to fix.

[@DieselRamcharger]

Id really like to see the motion controller software available as a mode on the sticks controller. as a semi autonomous training aid for people wanting to build skill and move into FPV.

[@jorgenleangen]

Thank you for your inspiration man - love your videos. Just miss one thing in this video - and that is the info that with the motion controller, you fly in normal drone mode and sport mode - that is the reason that you can´t do flips and stuff. with the motion controller you can´t go into manual mode. And with a normal contoller you could fly the drone in normal and sport mode to - with help from gps. You don´t need to use it in manual - even if that is so much more fun when you have learned it in the simulator first :) Really want my hands on such a drone soone, with normal controller in full manual. thanks man.

[@MATTIIAO]

Great video.. love the laughter and enjoyment you guys are having.. i think im going to buy one!!

[@mzanotti]

Tayler that's the way to go, in no time you'll be ready.

[@Killomainia]

Was thinking about picking up an avata and really wanted to use a normal controller as a first time flyer with FPV. Honestly might start with the motion controller now as that it might take a bit of practice to get the feeling down before uping it to the full controller.

[@HelpCloud]

Been on the fence about getting this one, I have the original DJI FPV, how does this one compare?

[@Bob-bw5zx]

Not sure if you found out already, but there's an option to get a certain 'crosshair' when you fly manual

[@Oziaudiovisual.]

Hello It's a pleasure 🎉to have you as my grand winner of 2(Dji mini 3 pro drone) Kindly contact the above username for acknowledgment 🎉🎉🎁

[@GaryBell]

I slightly disagree. I believe that you may have been able to get those shots with the motion controller. I got the Avata on launch date, and from out of the box I was getting some slick shots and maneuvering with the controller. I think that It may take some time and firmware updates as well. For instance, I'm not sure how to do a roll with the motion controller, or reverse (if that's even possible). I also don't think that it will EVER give you as much control as the FPV remote, but it does a pretty good job, and the concept (point and pull) is very intuitive. My $.02

[@no_0nefromnowhere]

Perfect example why I began with Avata!❤

[@danhartigan]

Great video! Your FPV video in Norway was incredible and inspiring, thanks

[@reconaerialdroneservices]

Hey Matti, love it as usual! I have an idea for a new drinking game, ie, every time you say "crash" everyone sociably and responsibly takes a drink of their preferred beverage. 😋

[@DaTaRaZoR]

First video I am watchig on your channel dude, really love the spirit, and really great content as well. Got a new sub right here. Thanks for introducing Avata to us

[@Oziaudiovisual.]

Hello It's a pleasure 🎉to have you as my grand winner of a Dji mini 3 pro drone Kindly contact the above username for acknowledgment 🎉🎉🎁

[@TMacDo243]

Nice video!! Waiting on mine, and this video was awesome for the suspense.

[@BestBBQShow]

This is exactly the video I was looking for. A deep dive on that stick

[@100mphClub]

Definitely need to try the head tracking feature of the goggles with the motion controller.

[@mattih]

I tried it a bit but it’s weirdddd 😂

[@100mphClub]

@@mattih Fair enough. 🤣One KZbinr was able to use it to circle around things which was really cool as many said it wasn't possible with the Motion Controller. I'd like to circle a parked car for example.

[@GaryBell]

@@mattih Agreed!

[@Imageyenation]

That was so much fun to watch!!!

[@williamalexanderr]

The experience watching Tyler was so much fun ! Would love to see his progression LMAO

[@TylerWells]

Beginning controller for the win!!

[@mattih]

Haha I love howwww fast you woulda crashed it 😂 less than 30 seconds probably

[@roystevenson9632]

Choose crosshairs on OSD in betaflight for the centre aiming point with other FPV quads.

[@r0de0man1]

yes you can get the target on the DJI FPV controller! it helps line up your flight paths!!

[@OdinzSun]

My theory is they made a TON of these for the original FPV and they just sat around, so they decided to pack them in with this drone to move them out of inventory, and they’ll eventually start selling it with the normal remote.

[@MarioSoMedia]

Definitely need to do the work and spend hours on a sim for sure!

[@mattih]

I spent 10 minutes 😂

[@MarioSoMedia]

@@mattih You are a natural! 😆 I need way more time than that on a sim.

[@bberger7858]

Motion controller is cool but needs some work. Would be nice if they added some functionality to lock to a target and hover around it, or reverse. You should do a week of just flying with the motion controller to show what can be done when you have experience with it though.

[@DieselRamcharger]

8:28 sold me! This is the flying experience ive been waiting for all my life.

[@Imageyenation]

Sphincter tightening!!!!!!! Great job Tyler!!!!

[@chrisvantwiskphotography]

can you change the color of the white marker circle as when you fly into the clouds you dont see anthing, that marker should be red

[@ryanowen1118]

Thank you for the additional video.

[@mattih]

🙏🏻 😊

[@GhostStealth590]

Should also note that the Avata is INCREDIBLY durable. A divebomb to the ground would scuff it probably, but not actually damage it.

[@Oziaudiovisual.]

Hello It's a pleasure 🎉to have you as my grand winner of 2(Dji mini 3 pro drone) Kindly contact the above username for acknowledgment 😇🥰

[@davidmaskew]

I really like the look of this. I've had a mini 2 for a while but never flown a FPV drone and I really like footage from FPV too. I feel a bit torn because the motion controller would probably make this s perfect stepping stone into flying FPV for someone like me but then I also feel it's not truly FPV and having to buy an additional controller if/once (I probably would) I want to take that step up seems a bit steep. I think maybe they could consider an offer to Avata owners a set period after purchase/registration to buy the other controller at a reasonable discounted price. That would be a nice touch. Otherwise just make it an option in the first place so we can take our chances 😂

[@x1c3x]

If I'm not mistaken, you can use the Mini2's controller, no?

[@davidmaskew]

@@x1c3x I'm not sure. I know on for the FPV controller you need to do a mod to the throttle stick so it sits a zero (fully down) by default otherwise I think you would be sat at 50% throttle when you release the stick.

[@HockeyGuy_in_STL]

Outstanding review. Thanks, guys 👍

[@Phoenix4montana]

How you finding the goggles with foging lots of talk around it hope it's just alote of talk

[@WR3ND]

Bro, the other ~33% of using the motion controller other than being a newbie is for the head tracking - it's like fpvr, to coin a phrase. 👍

[@Nath.Heimberg]

We have an option here in Switzerland to get the RC controller too for a bit more. Thought it should be either or but maybe it‘s cool to also have a motion controller. Great vid!

[@calicollective]

Looks like a blast

[@SultanBudiman]

Wow perfect. Pro skill 👍👍👍👍

[@manuelfigueroa894]

Thanks for the video you just convinced me on getting it with the motion controller , I am just like Taylor, no experience flying FPV.

[@mbariaarts6398]

Goosebumps when you were flying in between the trees...Good job Matti!!

[@xnightdwellerx8168]

I would love to buy this drone but I personally won’t be purchasing it until it gets a bundle with the regular controller

[@tcgunner90]

It actually is like the oculus, have you tried activating the head tracking feature in the goggles 2?

[@cf2671]

Yeah, no reviewer is actually doing the research. Is completely different experience with the head tracking feature on!

[@michaelmelvin6155]

@@cf2671 not true. Potato jet player with that mode in his review.

[@PerryPlatapussi]

@@cf2671 I've seen only one reviewer actually review this feature out of hundreds that I've watched

[@cf2671]

@@michaelmelvin6155 yeah saw it too. But most of reviewers haven’t.

[@cf2671]

@@PerryPlatapussi same. Sad, cause is a great feature. I was playing around and is pretty good.

[@filmfromthefuture]

Thank you Matty!!!

[@SkipperSurfReview]

Great episode! It starts at 13:30

[@dacook1987]

So if you want to get into FPV Is this still a good option to start with? Especially when you graduate to utilizing a full controller instead? Or is there better cheaper alternatives for initially starting?

[@tcmarchived]

Interested to know what your suggestion would be to learn the full FPV experience then. If this motion controller doesn't prepare you that well, then what's step 1 to learn the "real deal"??

[@JohnnyCodes]

A simulator like DRL sim, Velocidrone or liftoff

[@JonasBecker]

The Goggles come with a simulator app for your phone. You just connect them and then can fly Parcours in the simulator to learn how to fly

[@Steveneven92]

But don't you have different flying mode instead of having to use the manual for the controller?

[@edwurtle]

Yep. I thought you can fly in normal, sport, and manual mode with regular controller. Video makes it seem that only manual mode is available with the normal controller. Very misleading.

[@truevilmeow]

You should have used sport mode with both controllers.

[@WideAperture]

I cant wait for mine on the 12th!

[@killianhk1760]

The motion controller is great for people with only one working hand so now they can fly a drone. Can't wait for my friend's son to try a drone. Even playing VR games, we have to find a game that just needs one controller for him to play. Nintendo Switch games which needs only one motion controller is what he plays the most.

[@Najafiphotography]

It's kind of fun thank you🙏

[@paulpaws]

Love the video, very funny and informative

[@NetvoTV]

Is new one going to release soon, if I want to buy my first drone, should I get this or these mini and pro series?

[@simonwallett310]

I thought you could have interim modes from the FPV controller that was half way between a "normal" drone and FPV?

[@geoffheith]

In full manual mode does the emergency stop still work?

[@Blackirish__]

Just goes to show how good the pros are at flying, what’s smoother to use this motion controller or a normal one

[@roknboker]

You video really put this into prospective for me, as someone who has only flown consumer drones but wants to get into FPV. I was immediately turned off by the motion controller - but now I'm thinking it would be a good way to get used to the drone a bit, and maybe more importantly, the dji goggles. I think I'm going to end up picking one up honestly.

[@OriginaldoBo]

Stick error always there?

[@1975supermike]

If you can't afford this package are the v2 goggles still good ??

[@ChristiaanRoest79]

I dont agree. This is full failure from DJI. They should have made a combo package with the regular controller. The regular controller is almost no where in stock. Sucks big time. It seems like DJI have a massive amount of motion controllers in stock which they are providing now in the combo's. Not very consumer friendly that we now also have to buy the regular v2 controller which is another 150 euro. Plus 250 euro for the battery kit is almost 2k for the total package. Ludicres.

[@Imageyenation]

Serious question. If someone has vertigo issues, or gets motion sick easily, how does flying with goggles affect them? Curious if you know the answer.

[@balexandre]

it does not, I have vertigo and get dizzy looking up to a very tall building, and when I'm up and look down, but there is a connection to the ground, while when I do freefall, I have no vertigo at all as the brain does not even know how far the "ground" is... the googles is the same, as you have no "connection" to the ground, you are good 😊

[@johnnymaynard299]

Great and fun Video, thanks for taking us on this journey. I was wondering myself why the different controller offering. Thanks for the info.

[@thehrschannel4784]

How do you learn to fly FPV drones without going straight to the 'expert' controller and crashing a few times? Genuine question as I've never flown a drone but would like to get one and go the FPV route...

[@DamianLHudson]

Hey Matti, great video! Quick question where are you using a ND filter on the drone for this footage out of curiosity?

[@airbornemail]

Question:- how long does it take to charge a single battery with the standard charger vs the charging hub? Good video to understand the difference between the controllers.

[@thenerdshow]

Takes about 20-30 min for me on a 65w charger

[@Free_3.0]

I almost pulled the trigger on the avata but I saw no package with a regular controller, so I haven't pulled the trigger yet.

[@shanedye7295]

What’s worse is that I have the avata and can’t find an fpv remote. Apparently won’t be in stock till September 20th.

[@mattschmeichel3895]

Thanks for sharing this, as I also looked and couldn't find it anywhere... Does DJI even have it listed on their site? To me it looks like it's not even an option to buy it separately, but maybe I just missed it.

[@byronrobinson8633]

Well I have the controller so you would probably be best just selling me the avata. Haha. I’m in the same boat I have the controller but can’t just buy the avata separately without waiting for god knows how long.