The Doctor vs Lucifer Morningstar

[@OfficialSuperMKG]

*Lucifer:* "Lucifer... Lucifer Morningstar." *The Doctor:* "Lucifer Morningstar, as in..." *Lucifer:* "The Devil, yes!" *The Doctor:* "Unfortunately for you, I've beaten the Devil before."

[@IATIAsolosyourfavoriteverse]

And?

[@GVK42O]

I read this in their voices 🤣 love ittt

[@zainulabideen5490]

​@@IATIAsolosyourfavoriteverseI see your PFP You defiantly use math scaling right?? Well dr who's cosmology have infinite type 4 multiverce and many structure above those multiverce

[@saboblutdamon858]

​@@IATIAsolosyourfavoriteversea devil who's child killed humans with only its shadow

[@socketyellow3]

@@saboblutdamon858that’s a very small feat ._. It’s like saying Lucifer’s employee killed people with just a stare

[@imtrash999]

"I walked in universe where the Laws of Physics were devised by a MAD MAN" The Doctor

[@Maxippo]

Yeah I'm pretty sure he's referencing the toymakers dimension in the rings of Akhaten speech

[@PrinceDaemonTargaryen]

​@Maxippo that and omega as well probably

[@byronentwistle8525]

I’d just like to say that the doctor has canonically fought the devil and won

[@epikpencil]

The devil was weakened + doctor was amped but yes the doctor beats lucifer

[@RandomName12345]

He also beat and won against the idea of satan him self so technically all versions of the devil

[@plantainsame2049]

​@@epikpencil The doctor wasn't amt by Anything unless you count holding a rock?

[@epikpencil]

@@plantainsame2049 he was amped at that time cuz of some eu books, don’t remember how because that was 2 months ago

[@plantainsame2049]

@@epikpencil It sounds like you're making s*** up

[@TheGamingRift11]

As a British person, it makes me happy the doctor is getting represented in these battles 🎉

[@BendyTHEdemon9000]

Same

[@babalu7737]

i mean when it is show lucifer the doctor wins but comic lucifer beats the doctor or how powerfull is the doctor?

[@babalu7737]

but why@@Stephenedits-c9s

[@Stephenedits-c9s]

@@babalu7737 Proof: Marvel and DC comic exists in Doctor Who cosmology

[@RodneyG669]

​@@babalu7737it's a lot of things, at the core of it he's straight up immortal, has thousands of years of experience, is ridiculously intelligent, utterly fearless, cannot be affected by things that manipulate time, can see past, present and future time simultaneously. He travels the universe in a TARDIS, which is its own independent dimension, on the outside it looks like a police box, on the inside it's an infinite dimension that it can reconfigure any way it chooses. The TARDIS itself is sentient and extremely dangerous if it needs to be, it's also very attached to the Doctor. He has technology that can reconfigure reality, he once froze a planet in time and hid it in a pocket dimension to save it during the Time War. Another time he stopped the universe from being annihilated, he encountered an Eldritch being that had grown bigger than a galaxy by feeding on fear. It tried to eat his fear and went insane, then died from it. The Doctor is just broken in every aspect, which makes sense, he has over 60 years of lore to draw upon.

[@user-gf9vb7wj4v]

The Lonely God, and The Devil.. As The Doctor was travelling around his TARDIS, he accidentally appeared infront of a very... curious fellow. "Why hello there, Mr. Mysterious person who came out of a 1940s telephone booth?" A man dressed in a suit and with manners of an english butler appeared behind with a wine glass in his hands. "...You... You're not human are you?" The man from the box says, turning around to look at the strange fellow that appeared from nowhere. "You've got one hell of an eye, the irony..." the suited man sips from his wine glass, before being asked. "I never expected to meet another creature this quickly..." The Doctor says, narrowing his eyes in both curiosity and also, slight annoyance. "I never expected my Father to create something else besides humans." "Well your father, is quite behind on schedule I suppose." The Doctor turns around to re-enter the TARDIS, but the suited man interrupts him. "Leaving so soon? We just met" "I've got better things to do besides dealing with a God's child." "Wow, intelligent?" The suited man approaches him with the glass in hand, before extending his arm for a hand shake. "Lucifer Morningstar." The doctor looks at him and his hand before accepting the hand shake. "...Call me The Doctor."

[@ivanlopezrodriguez3880]

It hurts me that people wonder who's winning, The Doctor's overthinking anyone who gets in front of him

[@sticknoder4659]

Overthinking is a bad thing, I think you meant outthinking/smarting

[@ivanlopezrodriguez3880]

@@sticknoder4659 yeah, autocorrect

[@chaseackerman4234]

He’s also a character in doctor who, S3E13

[@user-dd7hv2sx5b]

The Doctor: My Past self already killed one

[@9fatal_error9]

Doctor Who > Marvel & DC

[@lonestarwolfentertainment7184]

As a fan of all three I must agree.

[@xhifang]

Nice joke😂😂Doctor is only Hyper fodder

[@Ultimo_Editz]

​@@xhifangThe Doctor has beaten the Devil. DC Comics exist in the Doctor Who universe. Lucifer gets smacked.

[@xhifang]

@@Ultimo_Editz that means nothing lmao, let's say you install SCP mod to Minecraft, so those SCPs are strong as originals?🤣🤣

[@Ultimo_Editz]

@@xhifang No. Lucifer is still the Doctor's victim. The Doctor has the Glory, and has beaten characters that scale to 11D.

[@macikcz9678]

The Doctor glazing is UNREAL bro. Get him past High Hyperversal first 💀 Lucifer scales to baseline Boundless lmao.

[@Ultimo_Editz]

@@macikcz9678 Baseline boundless lmaooooooo, I already destroyed you in a debate. Lucifer is High Outer (1A) while the Doctor is boundless (but if you're using layers into boundless, he's immeasurable - irrelevant layers into boundless).

[@garettelordi8686]

Bro gave feats to Lucifer😂

[@thedarkcrow9631]

Ya he beat god

[@horizonstride8610]

​@@thedarkcrow9631 the doc has done that and beaten the devil

[@The_Reaper101]

@@horizonstride8610 😂

[@macikcz9678]

@@horizonstride8610 Bro, that doesn't scale ANYWHERE if Lucifer and the Devil he defeated aren't the same character. People that say these things such as "But he defeated The Devil before" are stupid 💀

[@Cyrpoe]

The doctor could solo all of DC very easily, and I'll explain how. The Glory, a omniversal spectrum in the Doctor Who universe sees all matters of fiction as below it. One small rule, it has to exist in the Doctor Who universe. In a episode during 2017 we learn that DC comics as a whole does exist in the Doctor Who universe as it does in ours. Therefore, the doctor beats lucifer.

[@TheGamingRift11]

Metaphysics to the rescue 🔥

[@RandomName12345]

Also In a comic panel of the glory it shows a marvel comic saying marvel is inside doctor who as well (this is still canon as it was written by marvel themself and they haven’t changed it)

[@Rinngheta2]

Therefore normal human being in doctor who beat dc and Marvel character?

[@RandomName12345]

@@Rinngheta2 it depends how you scale it personally i would say no as a normal human shouldn’t have any comparison to the cosmology but there are definitely ways to get it to happen it just seems weird

[@Cyrpoe]

@@Rinngheta2 Technically yes

[@RedWolf0407]

The doctor considered a demigod

[@Four-One-Three]

"The Doctor" Legit looked like he was singing the song itself, 😂

[@Stephenedits-c9s]

Fax 📠 + W edit ❤

[@themightybob]

The doctor is one of the most physically and mentally powerful aliens from the most advanced race in the multiverse Im surprised youd even give literally anyone else a chance😂

[@armaankhaitan6741]

The doctor has beaten literal gods many many times. He is in essence a god himself

[@melissazietz1241]

I think the first video is more accurate lol. But I'm biased😂

[@zainulabideen5490]

Nah bro Lucifer is below Limbo level😂😂

[@Cobalt-Opera]

Lucifer strong but the doctor negs in this case

[@RodneyG669]

The Doctor one drove an eldritch being that fed on fear so insane that it died, by feeding it his fear. Lucifer is getting wrecked, the Doctor just destroys paltry deities.

[@henryreed4697]

I think the doctor still gets the experience point because the doctor has done a lot of stuff and has lived a very long time Oh and feats too.

[@mennnn972]

Lucifer is nigh omniscient and has existed since the beginning of time and creation. Doctor who might beat Live action lucifer but in comics it's just not close

[@henryreed4697]

@@mennnn972 don't be ridiculous. The doctor has beaten beings like that regularly.

[@Maxippo]

​@@mennnn972The Doctor in comics neg diffs pretty much every character. Apart from some bullshit like scp-3812

[@redtf9453]

​@@mennnn972You said the opposite Comic lucifer is the one who makes a great fight but show gets ncodiffed

[@mennnn972]

@@redtf9453 That's what I said

[@Blazer_notblizzard]

The doctor can also always go back in time to stop him from ever existing

[@armaankhaitan6741]

The doctor has walked in blood through all of time and space. The doctor has many names: the last tree of garssenon, the butcher of skull moon, the destroyer of skaro. He is the doctor of war.

[@JuliansStuffRoblox]

Ain’t no way this man gave IQ and Battle IQ to Lucifer 😂

[@livingcoffee_edits]

He didn't............................

[@xhifang]

He should

[@Lord_F_El_Tulon]

​@@xhifangHe should not

[@xhifang]

@@Lord_F_El_Tulon joke?

[@Lord_F_El_Tulon]

@@xhifang No

[@SkipporEditz]

Nice🔥

[@PrinceGojira7345]

Dr who: But I've seen a lot of this universe. I've seen fake gods and bad gods and demi-gods and would-be gods, and out of all that, out of that whole pantheon, if I believe in one thing, just one thing, I believe in her. (He smashes the urn.)

[@VTXWarlock]

How is lucifer won on experince the doctor has 39 season totally

[@raffaeleruffato9710]

He defeated the Devil, he Is a hero❤

[@JoeMamisSalami]

Ik they were faking us at the start

[@ludovicotonelli5399]

Experience to the doctor

[@plantainsame2049]

Lucifer has been around since ever The doctor is older than dirt but he's not that old

[@RandomName12345]

@@plantainsame2049 I mean technically the doctor is older than creation due to the shit timeless child arc (pretty much he got sent to the start of creation after the multiverse ended)

[@plantainsame2049]

@@RandomName12345 You don't know what the f*** you're talking about do you? No the time was child stated that the doctor was older Then time lord society a founder of it And they've been planning that in one way or another since the seventh doctor The time child meshes very well with the other the third founder of Time lord society Alongside rasalon and omega

[@livingcoffee_edits]

@@plantainsame2049 Age doesn't equal experience

[@plantainsame2049]

@@livingcoffee_edits sounds like something a hippie would say

[@tyriquegriffith6942]

the docter killed the idea of the devil the doctor slams

[@JohnSmith-zp5jf3dk4b]

Доктор сам говорил как Однажды Победил Дьявола.

[@user-pj4xx1gn5w]

И? У Дьяволов рангов куча. Плюс говорить не значит делать

[@JohnSmith-zp5jf3dk4b]

@@user-pj4xx1gn5w Вы Сериал Смотрели говоря такое.

[@JohnSmith-zp5jf3dk4b]

Вы Сериал Смотрели Говоря это.@@user-pj4xx1gn5w

[@TheDøctorØfDread]

​@@user-pj4xx1gn5w*cough cough* season 3

[@TheDøctorØfDread]

​@@user-pj4xx1gn5wI mean it litteraly shows him beating the devil, keyword: THE, not a, THE devil

[@shakokakozeditz]

İ know lucifer but i dont know doctor who is he

[@RandomName12345]

Main character in doctor who crazy broken in powerscaling kzbin.info/www/bejne/a4i3lYCehKl2bMk this show pretty much his power however there is spoiler for both show and comic so up to you

[@shakokakozeditz]

@@RandomName12345 thanks

[@SGNtrioGoat12345]

All: Lúcifer Neg diff

[@aritrachoudhuri6716]

Tv show :- yes Comics :- aw heil no

[@ASeraphicDog]

Nope comics Lucifer still gets shit stomped

[@Pythor__]

nahh- iq and battle iq go to the doctor- (edit Oh fk- i didnt watch the whole thing- uhh- MB-)

[@kreuzberk2316]

No one could have more exp than doctor. Bro he is ⁸ YEARS OLD

[@SatiricalLizard]

Which Lucifer are we talking about tho?

[@restlessvideos3170]

:Comic Lucifer walks in

[@MangoBlasters-go5cs]

Im sorry to say that comic lucifer would also get bodied.

[@restlessvideos3170]

Bro does not know comic Lucifer 💀💀💀

[@MangoBlasters-go5cs]

@@restlessvideos3170 no I do... I dont think you know the Doctor lmao.

[@restlessvideos3170]

Bro I love Dr who but Lucifer wins he is literally one step away from god

[@Unknown_Edits919]

This is comic lucifer and the doctor annihilates him

[@Hellodinho]

The doctor only wins due to cosmology

[@jeromelancashire3278]

Lucifer has more battle experience, and What the fuck do you mean no diff when he takes at least 6 categories?

[@RandomName12345]

Categories much to a lot of people knowledge mean nothing You could have a character with every category but hax and still lose because the hax is too powerful For the doctor it’s pretty much just iq , speed , biq , and then idk knowledge it’s kinda weird he just seems to outsmart nigh omniscient beings

[@jhonlara7176]

What is the name of the series of the doctor?

[@mohdgabril4840]

Doctor who

[@TheGamingRift11]

What song is this btw?

[@Alexander-...]

after dark x sweater

[@TheGamingRift11]

@@Alexander-... much obliged 🔥

[@Alexander-...]

​@@TheGamingRift11👍👍

[@meowsaysthecat]

Feats is the doctor because he beat the toymaker who beat god

[@Liam-lx8xb]

Dr.who is powerful don't get me wrong but he's a victim of the Spector. Like you gave him speed over someone who's faster than supermanand gave him durability over someone who jumped god. Again I feel the need to emphasize that he jumped GOD. Dr.who ain't winning this.

[@logandelaharpe6362]

The doctor has the glory the ominversal spectrum giving him complete control over fiction and reality in which both marvel and dc exist with in he is extraversal above Lucifer outerversal level

[@Maxippo]

​@@logandelaharpe6362yeah I recently read the glorious dead lol

[@javoncambridge741]

The doctor canno't defeat neither lucifer from the comics nor the supernatural

[@tyriquegriffith6942]

He can he solos all versiones of lucifer

[@giorgiaduronio]

The doctor forever

[@gerrardjones28]

Fax bro!

[@Jack-Kline45]

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@DJ-LD]

Nice bait and switch. 👍

[@StarstrickenBarrel]

IQ goes to Lucifer his IQ speed and strength are all irrelevant and infinite

[@eniu234]

dude went from fax to cap lmao

[@Ultimo_Editz]

@@eniu234 Nah, this is fax lmaoooo, shows that you don't watch Doctor Who and you're biased

[@eniu234]

@@Ultimo_Editz shows that i can scale unlike you or that dude who made that edit

[@Ultimo_Editz]

@@eniu234 You can't scale if you think an outerversal character beats a boundless character

[@eniu234]

@@Ultimo_Editz the doctor is only complex multi. lucifer is few layers into boundless. try harder

[@DJ-LD]

The doctor is complex muiti in base and has beaten many outer characters in this base. Your point doesn't mean much.

[@Farose-Gaming507]

doctor ❤❤

[@TheCosmicEntityEditz]

doctor slaps

[@kcpolo8469]

Caps

[@eniu234]

lucifer destroys that fodder

[@Maxippo]

Depends, if it's live action, doctor is base and Lucifer has flaming sword, Lucifer can win, (without flaming sword he's fucked) If both characters are composite, the fight could go either way but the doctor would probably win due to his intelligence.

[@eniu234]

@@Maxippo lucifer is way smarter than doctor. Lucifer is beyond omniscient, he outsmarted the presence

[@Maxippo]

@@eniu234 the doctor outsmarted the toymaker, a being that could easily beat even the one above all

[@eniu234]

@@Maxippo first of all no, he wouldn't beat him 2nd of all power has nothing to do with outsmarting

[@Maxippo]

@@eniu234 it does factor into who would win a confrontation though

[@mmegs5386]

Feats and experience go to doc

[@Skywlkr_Editzz]

The doctor is 4034, Lucifer is as old as god

[@DJ-LD]

​​@@Skywlkr_EditzzName every feat lucifer has done. No wait. Everything lucifer has done period.

[@DJ-LD]

Trick question by the way. Because if you could and it doesn't crash the youtube comment section with sheer amount of text or cause problems even slightly then it's clear lucifer hasn't done even a fraction of stuff that the doctor has done. A character being older than another doesn't mean the older character has more experience. They just lived longer. I mean seriously. That becomes even less of a factor if the younger character has faster cognition of any degree than the older character.

[@AKBOXING-13-1]

If it’s the show lucifer. Then maybe the doctor. But remember one of the doctors died from falling from a construction thing and another was shot by a gang 😂. But if it’s comic lucifer. He would’ve wiped out the entrie Dalek and time lord race with a click of his finger. Past present future even ones in different timelines

[@RandomName12345]

…… Yeah you don’t fully understand doctor who Dalek and timelord passively resist existence erasure even on an outerversal scale and have resisted creation collapse (the Dalek even made a void ship which was capable of travelling between the plain of the time vortex and other universe/multiverse) Destroying a single universe/timeline/multiverse won’t effect them as well fixed points in time they have certain situations that must happen and the cosmology it self will correct them to make it happen ( the doctor rewrote part of reality to counter his “death”) Just the tardis it self may be enough to best lucifer if not the doctor can just absorb the vortex it self and pretty much gain the same hax as Ellain Belloc just in a high tier, or use the key to time which is able to control pretty much anything, or just use the moment (idk if it will work lucifer resists this but in a lower level, so that’s debatable) The intelligence side, the doctor has outsmarted a being called “the great intelligence” (you can google this if you want) and that being is quite literally yog sothoth someone whose own scaling dwarfs dc comp He’s casually outsmarted nigh omniscient beings, turned the eternal (a group of god like being that have the power to do literally anything) mortal, As much as I like lucifer the doctor has jsut resisted most of his form of attack and lucifer primary form of winning is his intelligence which the doctor jsut has better feats upon

[@lamrock_4849]

sorry . who is doctor ?

[@Alexander-...]

He is an alien (time lord race) he is a god who has control of all space and time.

[@KraidTheSpacePirate]

Doctor who?

[@Alexander-...]

@@KraidTheSpacePirate yes

[@livingcoffee_edits]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/a4i3lYCehKl2bMk this scales him

[@user-pz6qz9xr1l]

Nope Doctor is low hyperversal Lucifer is outerversal

[@DJ-LD]

Power isn't everything.

[@spamtheham101]

Low hyperversal in base

[@RandomName12345]

He scales to immeasurable into boundless if you don’t use lowball sites (not base but with the glory)

[@plantainsame2049]

The doctors killed Satan before and he's doing again too See the doctor literally kills these so called Omnipotent Creatures all The Time Ask the black guardian or The great old ones

[@plantainsame2049]

​@@spamtheham101 How about instead of using fancy words that mean nothing to anyone we use actual we use? Our f******? Eyes. The doctor has defeated cathulu Saten the great old ones et cetera et cetera

[@KP-zk9kf]

Jack Kline victim

[@Meezlygamer-qh5dp]

If this is comics Lucifer negs

[@EternalPayne]

U wish lol The Doctor's strongest form is with an the Glory which contains the Omniverse, The Doctor slams

[@Meezlygamer-qh5dp]

wrong. the omniverse is contained in marvel. there is an entire wiki page on the marvel omniverse that contains fiction and non fiction. hell the multiverse in marvel already does this. now why am I bringing this up. because dc and marvel share cosmologies and lucifer scales above 90% of dc including earth 33 which is the real world. @@EternalPayne

[@Maxippo]

If this is comics The Doctor negs 😂, only thing he can't beat is scp-3812

[@Maxippo]

​@@Meezlygamer-qh5dpyeah your point does stand but Lucifer himself just doesn't compare to the power of the glory

[@RandomName12345]

⁠​⁠@@Meezlygamer-qh5dpthe omniverse is not contain within marvel. Wth are you on about? The glory or the “omniversal spectrum” contains all of marvel and all of doctor who it’s a spectrum one part is marvel one part is doctor who the rest is completely unknown currently Doctor who doesn’t contain marvel nor does marvel contain doctor who : the glory however contain both Well talking about place that contain all of fictions and non fiction written and to be written it’s usually ignored for the fact almost every verse contains this including doctor who And finally dc and Marvel DO NOT share a cosmology it’s made explicit clear through actually looking at each cosmology and the statement of the writer themself (The marvel and dc crossover comic are stated throughout to be non canon I mean hell the fight weren’t written upon they were done up popular vote that’s how Batman beat the hulk) And nothing in fiction contain the real world stop trying to boost it literally nothing can contain the real world (the only verse that I’ve found that even is Able to affect the real world is the dark tower but that’s only barely) Oh and somethign I would like to say Cthulhu mythology is contain within doctor who (yog sothoth is the Great intelligence as well as having the same dreamscape and same race of old ones) and Cthulhu mythos it self is above both marvel and dc

[@universofancast5537]

#matquemorenopacifico

[@Mill3niumm]

Battle iq to Luc

[@DoctorStrangeSolosAnimes]

The Doctor Who is fodder. Lucifer destroys

[@logandelaharpe6362]

Other way around

[@EternalPayne]

The doctor is extraversal with the glory, lucifer is the one getting destroyed bro 💀

[@adriansproho5379]

​@@EternalPayne what is extraversal that doesnt even exist 🤡 lucifer blinks his verse away get doctor past low complex multi

[@Sevent77]

Yeah no, Lucifer Is an immortal angel second in power only to God himself and Doctor is just a pseudo human that can be killed with two bullets, one to kill him and the second one to interrupt and prevent regeneration. The Doctor wins most often cause he's smart and has a Deus Ex Machina.

[@DJ-LD]

Hmm. Which Lucifer are you talking about?

[@v-uwu-she-hot]

Lucifer isn’t immortsl

[@spamtheham101]

If only there was an episode where the Doctor killed the devil- oh wait, there is

[@RandomName12345]

If only there was an episode to prove dc is inside of doctor who- oh wait, there is Also the doctor can’t actually be killed that way it was shown in the episode with the 11th doctor I believe but for one that wasn’t a gun it was timelord science and two it failed twice actually

[@plantainsame2049]

The doctor has defeated the so called all powerful creatures Anything that actually calls itself all powerful is really just f****** weak

[@lochnessable115]

If we’re talking about DC lucifer, the doctor is dead in a second. Also how tf does the doctor get iq over an omniscient being? 😂

[@Cyrpoe]

Because the doctor is smarter than most omniscient beings.

[@Alexander-...]

It shows that you don't know doctor who at all

[@TheGamingRift11]

@@Alexander-...fax. The doctor is underrated

[@Alexander-...]

​@@TheGamingRift11yes

[@plantainsame2049]

Because omniscient It's a lie To make yourself sound clever or no one is actually unmissioned

[@gingerpowers6807]

Lucifer will all ways be better

[@logandelaharpe6362]

He gets no diffed

[@Maxippo]

​@@logandelaharpe6362yeah and even if we did compare their scales in comics The Doctor would have an even bigger edge due the comic The Glorious Dead when he obtains the power of the glory

[@universofancast5537]

@renopacifico