The Doncaster Train Collision | Jakeso

In today's video I discuss the impacts and causes of a train collision between two freight services (GB Railfreight and Freightliner) on the 5th July 2022. We look at how and why it happened and the learning points established by the RAIB.
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[@pdf__]

wake up honey, new jakeso train collision video out

[@Jakeso]

That made me chuckle, that’s a good one 😂

[@pdf__]

@@Jakeso yay thanks for pin!

[@bobp6742]

I would say it was due to the same reason the colwich accident happened back in 86, the driver was expecting D197 to go green as he approached it as it always had done before.

[@Sam_Green____4114]

26 days !! To clear this mess up and reopen the line !! beyond pathetic !

[@Demun1649]

You sound like an expert. Why not start your own company, and go for the contracts? You know. PROVE you can do better. I expect you know of the shallow gullies and outflows, the extremely boggy ground, and the fact that access ramps were miles away? Oh, silly me, you wouldn't have posted that if you hadn't.

[@Sam_Green____4114]

@@Demun1649 Better than you that's for sure !

[@Demun1649]

@@Sam_Green____4114 I hate that flag. Occupied us for 800 years, but we won in the end. BLOCKED.

[@stevem-h3562]

No great surprise where Network Rail are concerned. Their contingency planning is beyond laughable.

[@Beatlefan67]

After the worst peace-time crash in UK history (Harrow and Wealdstone) there were trains running - single line - within 24 hours.

[@simon11235]

Great video!

[@rickycunningham6368]

Yay Jake was waiting for this! Looks epic, you've done a good job dude :) well worth the wait!

[@droge192]

Good vid (aside a few very dodgy spellings!). For the Train Sim section, you need to turn off "Depth of Field", which is causing the blurring of anything that is not at the centre of the field of view.

[@glenjones6980]

Some might think the driver worked a long week but HGV drivers can and often do work 84 hours in six consecutive shifts without a rest day.

[@nounoufriend1442]

Its more the shift pattern that causes fatigue , six straight days is hard but ok as you keep your sleep pattern

[@trainspotter446]

A couple of issues: it'ss not just GBrf that has to do a brake tes. it'ss all FOC's and TOCs'. Plus, you mentioned 4E11 being 66729 which yes that is correct, then you said later on in the video 4E11 was being hauled by 66739.

[@nedseagoon5101]

Signed, Mr P Dantic.

[@AndreA-ke2id]

Seems like complacency is the culprit here ?

[@1258-Eckhart]

Dear RAIB, why is GBRf allowed to have a "fatigue management" policy? And then simply be asked to "review" this? GBRf should be required to scrap trying to "manage" fatigue, and instigate policies of "fatigue avoidance".

[@straightpipediesel]

It's like mistakes. It's unrealistic and counterproductive to try to eliminate all human mistakes, you must constantly be aware of the risk and manage them. If you wanted to eliminate fatigue, drivers would have 15 minute shifts with 3 day breaks in between. Fatigue is always present from the moment you start working, you must recognize and manage it.

[@Maverick_31]

What’s the minimum crew size for freight trains in the UK? Is it just a driver or is there a conductor as well?

[@nedseagoon5101]

One. The driver.

[@Maverick_31]

That’s a massive problem. There should always be a minimum of 2 crew members on a train.

[@nounoufriend1442]

@@Maverick_31 Use of freight guard (conductor ) and second man (drivers assistant ) ended in the mid 80's in the UK

[@Maverick_31]

@@nounoufriend1442 Jesus what moron allowed that lol. As a conductor for a freight carrier in Canada, it’s essential having a 2 person crew. There’s just too much at stake to leave that kind of responsibility to a single person.

[@nedseagoon5101]

@@Maverick_31 £££ talks loudly!

[@alistairkewish651]

Not quite a head code but a classification of the type of train, according to what materials it is carrying ..each derives from a class…

[@nedseagoon5101]

No, he’s correct. It’s called a headcode. The first number denotes the speed of the train. 4 - 75mph. 6 - 60mph or less, down to 45mph.

[@jerryhayes9497]

Excellent video thanks 🎉🎉🎉

[@Sam_Green____4114]

They crashed because one train hit the back of the other train !!!! HARD !!!

[@pinza0079]

I guess a second man would have probably prevented this

[@nounoufriend1442]

Drives assistant as many female drivers now in UK

[@russiandrivers9986]

Maybe, but he might just assume the driver knows what he's doing

[@retiree1033]

Did the driver suffer any sanction for this? It would seem to be scapegoating if he did.

[@leeowen4989]

Why would it be scapegoating? Dude had 3 separate warnings that the line ahead wasn't clear and still drove a perfectly working train up the arse end of another....

[@XDFTraincooler]

Nice video game. Can I have ago please.

[@gdwnet]

10:08 guarantee. Please fix the typo.

[@max10sheets01]

When did the TPWS system get converted to Magnetic operation???? That must have been a huge project!

[@masonsmainlineroblox]

started as magnetics

[@Alan-ln3ls]

TPWS is radio-based, while AWS is magnetic. Two different systems.

[@masonsmainlineroblox]

@@Alan-ln3ls nope

[@masonsmainlineroblox]

@@Alan-ln3ls it is two different systems, but is magnetic

[@Alan-ln3ls]

@@masonsmainlineroblox Yep. The TPWS grids transmit a radio signal (several different frequencies are used) which is detected by an aerial on the train. Nothing to do with permanent magnets or electromagnets - that's AWS.

[@nigelkthomas9501]

Just because a train rarely stops at a certain signal doesn’t mean it never will! The driver should’ve been paying more attention. His fault entirely. Very lucky he wasn’t injured or caused far more damage.

[@22pcirish]

I know this particular driver very well. Please delete your very wrong comments.

[@nigelkthomas9501]

@@22pcirish Why? I speak as I find. Any driver screwing up to this level is obviously not paying full attention. Imagine if this had happened on the ECML proper! He could’ve caused carnage; and he’d probably be doing time, if he survived!

[@22pcirish]

@@nigelkthomas9501 you couldn’t be more wrong.

[@nigelkthomas9501]

@@22pcirish That’s your opinion, and reluctantly I respect it. You could offer me the same curtesy, but doubt you will.

[@22pcirish]

@@nigelkthomas9501 What I know about this incident (which is rather more than is put into the RSSB report) I will keep to myself.

[@arthurmatthews9321]

A 12 hour night shift at the end of a 50 hour week is not only dangerous it’s illegal. We have a maximum 48 hour working week in this country.

[@neiloflongbeck5705]

Unless the worker signs a Working Time Directive opt-out, and then they can work for more than 48 hours.

[@lolzlolz102]

Working Time Directive is averaged over 17 weeks (26 in some cases). Either way the hard limit for the company is max 60 hours per week or 72 hours if overtime included.

[@PeterChapman-rg6gr]

Do we? Are you sure about that?

[@DOCTORDROTT]

not illegal. rail staff can work 11.5 hour shifts for a max of 12 consecutive shifts. With a priviso with permission to run over that in an emergency situation. You have to have a 12 hour off duty between shifts. Worked that for 35 years with no issues. " Hidden report " Train drivers may be "on duty " for 10 hours but actual driving can be as low as two hours . One roster where I was based, book on. take a train to the docks for unloading. two mile trip, wait four hours for unloading. Take empties to another yard 35 miles away. Taxi back to base. Book off.

[@chris_3636]

Two of the shifts were rest day work, which are optional as far as I'm aware, so the driver had more than a little responsibility for the fatigue element. Freight train drivers are on £60k+ a year, so how much is enough?.

[@gwrydd]

home from work get to chill and watch new upload

[@Trainspottinkid]

Hello good video

[@organisten]

For goodness sake, you do not say "both drivers were not injured", you say "neither driver WAS injured"!

[@Midlandstransporthub]

Both mean the same thing, stop being such a pedant

[@droge192]

You're picking up on that, and not the spelling of "garuntee" ? 😄

[@organisten]

@@Midlandstransporthub No they do not. Both do not mean the same thing. This does or that does! Which is another meaning to NEITHER means the same thing. Both drivers were not injured; only one of them was. This is different from NEITHER driver was injured. So no, they do NOT mean the same at all.

[@user-zr5yj1od5q]

@@organistenI quite agree,alas,grammar is not what it once was

[@normanbridge8924]

aah but did the train driver lose his job?

[@DOCTORDROTT]

no

[@droge192]

They'll never lose their job through accidents like this - unless their is a *willful* negligence or act. For example; drugs, alcohol, Taking a wee out of the door, with your bag in the DSD pedal, headphones with music on, etc, etc. The closest the driver would have come to deregistration as a train driver here, was not performing the running brake test. But his Union will have got him out of that one, on the fatigue litigation against GBrf. Those were some insane shifts. He should not have been permitted to work *both* of those rest days. I dare say he's learned his lesson and will be more cautious at *all* yellows, double yellows and flashing yellows!

[@22pcirish]

@@droge192I am an ASLEF member and you are talking absolute rubbish.

[@nigelkthomas9501]

@@22pcirish ASLEF: Absolutely Selfish Lazy Egotistical F*!

[@nounoufriend1442]

@@droge192 Lack of a running brake test had no bearing on this incident , we had incident with coal train , no running brake test done first driver knew of no brakes was at cautionary signal (train had not been piped up ! ) No continuity test done as these trains run 24 hours under an enhanced brake test , train passed signal loco derailed on catch points

[@trevorcheers9137]

Is this a lesson in english grammer or an explanation of a rail accident

[@1258-Eckhart]

*grammar

[@DOCTORDROTT]

I worked 12 hour shifts in the rail industry 11 days in a row, driving 300 miles a day, working as a rail engineer on call outs on wagons and locomotives. Drivers on £60,000.... engineers paid £36,000 a year

[@robertbarnett9939]

So why didn't you get a job as a Train Driver then?

[@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne]

£60,000? More like £100,000 for freight. I just can't understand why more people (like yourself) don't try to become a train driver instead of bemoaning what they earn.

[@nounoufriend1442]

@@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne £100k you would have to work hell of a lot of rest days to earn than on freight

[@njhtrains]

speaking about 66729 in the vid, last October I caught it at Didcot Parkway, which was on the same day I caught 56301.

[@TheRedFloofball_Foxy]

spelling mistake at 5:10 “reopned”

[@Battismore-Blue]

I bet your fun at parties

[@droge192]

and 'garuntee'. That was my favourite.

[@droge192]

@@Battismore-Blue *you're 😄

[@SprinterPlayz]

0:42 that’s 66799

[@Jakeso]

I know. I sourced images from people who allowed me to use their images and none of them were the units in question however I didn’t think it really mattered at the end of the day.

[@droge192]

@@Jakeso - agreed. It was a great video!

[@user-ws9er6ww1y]

Jake, the content of videos like this are too important, and educational, rather than entertaining ...... they are too important to have a garbled voice=over. Whosevers voice that was, needs to admit they ain't a voice professional. Don't spoil such a good video, with well-researched content, by giving it an undecipherable (at times) commentary.

[@beeble2003]

Does reading the RAIB report count as "well-researched"? I mean, obviously, it's not badly researched, but when all the information in the video is contained in a single document, I don't think there's cause to praise the quality of research.

[@SirReginaldBlomfield1234]

The spelling in the captions is atrocious. 🙈