The Doolin-Dalton Gang: The Wild Bunch

[@Biographics]

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[@drq7943]

Please could you do a biographic on Jesus

[@nomdeplume7537]

As was pointed out the last of the Wild Bunch went out in 1924 ... so when people talk about how 'it's the 21st Century' they fail to recognize, there are others who's lives have been influenced, by people [some family] from the 20th and even the 19th Century. My Great grandfather and grandmother were born in the late 1800s, and I'm only 55. Always keep that I'm mind when ever you want to chastise someone for not being woke enough for you .

[@danielwebster5748]

Bill doolin was with the Dalton's. Either through luck or intelligence his horse went lame. Good thing emmit was the only survivor and he was shot to pueces

[@adrianwarner8686]

More "Wild West" please, it's a fascinating period of American history. Also, thank you.

[@UnexpectedWonder]

Absolutely!

[@boogityhoo]

It honestly a very interesting time in US history because imo there were so many crossovers , Native Americans were still very much around, Mexico had alot of territory and Mexicans were all over , the fact you could just walk around with whatever weapons you wanted, just ride freely from town to town, gambling freely, prostitution was everywhere but it was a legitimate business , you could choose to live on a ranch if you had money to do so. You could be a hired gun or choose to be a sheriff/officer . Trains were a regular way to travel and live overall , while was very rough, was seeminly so free. If I could choose a certain period of time to visit I'd choose The Wild West without any questions asked.

[@adrianwarner8686]

@@boogityhoo Eloquently said, 100% with you on this.

[@AB-ye7bw]

I was going to ask for the same exact subject! Thank you 👍

[@calebbrown9536]

@@boogityhoo !&!9!

[@BenRollinsActor]

As a ten-year-old boy in Coffeyville, my grandfather was an eyewitness to the gunning down of the Daltons.

[@WolfMaiden11]

Wow.

[@boogityhoo]

@@jeffdroog you want pics of me and your mom t

[@timmanning5206]

It's mad to think how recent this all was

[@Stable_Genius]

@@boogityhoo 🤣

[@ClannCholmain]

Who was Coffey do you know? It’s an Irish surname.

[@TotallyNotElPresidente]

Not even gonna mention the legendary cowboy "Lucky Luke" who spent half his career chasing them down over and over and over again?

[@arvidfrykman9850]

That was a different Dalton gang. Their cousins.

[@athuldas2634]

@@arvidfrykman9850 i see

[@duncancurtis1758]

Jack, William Joe and Averell. The scourge of Sinful Gulch.

[@MrJackhammer51]

@@duncancurtis1758 I feel like Joe should either be at the beginning or the end for some reason.

[@ferociousgumby]

There used to be a cartoon character called Flukey Luke. Never understood the reference until now.

[@robertfolkner9253]

Emmett Dalton was sentenced to the Kansas State Penitentiary in the city of Lansing. When I worked there as a guard in 1979 his prisoner file was still in the records office. And no, he didn’t spend the rest of his life there, if I remember correctly, he was released after 14 years, during which he was a model prisoner.

[@duffmason734]

After his release, he went on to become a big success in real estate. No joke!

[@coreykneedler4110]

Coffeyville is my hometown! I live literally a block away from where the Dalton gang fell! Thank you for this!

[@natedcarr6148]

Thank you, Biographics, for producing and publishing such excellent videos on important historical figures. They're both informative and entertaining. Looking forward to more videos!

[@BoyNamedSue4]

They were duelin', Doolin-Dalton High or low, it was the same Easy money and faithless women Red-eye whiskey for the pain Go down, Bill Dalton, it must be God's will, Two brothers lyin' dead in Coffeyville Two voices call to you from where they stood Lay down your law books now They're no damn good Better keep on movin', Doolin-Dalton 'Til your shadow sets you free If you're fast, and if you're lucky

[@HateTheGameTX]

Good song

[@thewobblywelder8362]

Damn what song is this? My dad took me to coffeyville once to see the museum when I was young. Never forgot their story since! What a time to be alive back then!

[@BoyNamedSue4]

@@thewobblywelder8362 Doolin-Dalton by the Eagles

[@grumblesa10]

Way to romanticize a bunch of thugs....Just in the interest of complete openness: my 3rd cousin was Joel Collins, who was ejected from the REAL Wild Bunch for being too violent. NO ONE in my family romanticizes him or his brother...

[@BoyNamedSue4]

@@grumblesa10 you must be fun at parties.

[@Boggythefroggy]

My favourite song by The Eagles is about this gang, I loved learning the history of it.

[@sullyb23511]

The OK Corral: I'm the greatest gunfight in the history of the Wild West. The Battle of Ingles: Hold my beer, watch this.

[@Marco_Onyxheart]

Lucky Luke taught me that each of the Daltons was taller and dumber than their older peers, and only the oldest brother had any intelligence to speak of.

[@scocon8658]

Yeah...the number of mistakes the Dalton Gang made at Coffeyville would make it seem like bad comedy: Their plan to don fake beards & mustaches failed miserably since they'd lived in the town a couple of years ago, so none of the citizens were fooled They had intended to hitch their horses right next to one of the banks they were gonna rob, but those were removed to dig a new water line And where they did tie their horses was in a back alley, which looked straight down the hardware store from which was also sold firearms They had split into two groups, one for each of the banks to be jacked but Grat's team was stalled by the employees into thinking the vault was on a time lock and wouldn't open for another hour or so, wasting a lot of time When they did emerge from that bank the whole town had armed themselves with the aforementioned hardware owner loaning out A LOT of firepower Bob & Emmett were at the other bank, heard the shots fired, and snuck down the alleyways taking a more circuitous route to get to the horses The horses were hitched waay down at the far end of that alleyway Grat and his team decided to make a run for it down on the other (bank) side of the alley and were shot to pieces Bob & Emmett cut through a back lot to get to the alley and Bob was shot up while Emmett got on his horse but as he turned around to grab Bob he got a double load of buckshot in his back The four dead outlaws were stripped of all their gear, guns, and boots, and propped up on a board for the townsfolk to gawk at Aaand after that were unceremoniously dumped into a cell, waiting for the undertaker to collect them. Bill Dalton was probably the most intelligent, but he eventually went bad, so maybe none of them were the sharpest knives in the drawer, but Bob & Grat were definitely the Wild West's version of Dumb & Dumber...

[@scocon8658]

Oh, and the Dunn Brothers, the ones who cashed in on Bitter Creek & Charley Pierce - one of the brothers sold out the other.

[@davidtaylor5525]

Great content as usual. Love all of your channels, Simon! Always look forward to watching

[@scocon8658]

Love the clips of Tombstone, Once Upon a Time in the West, and Sam Peckinpah's classic The Wild Bunch! Also, "The Wild Bunch" was the name of several outlaw gangs in those days - the other famous Bunch being Butch Cassidy's crew. It was a popular name, to be sure.

[@allie5]

I’ve been listening/watching more of the Casual Criminalist recently than Biographics. It’s quite jarring seeing Simon back to being “sort of” serious! I’ve got so used the relaxed chat aspect of how he delivers The Casual Criminalist content!

[@foxhoundp9949]

😂 same! I'm often jumping from biographics to brain blaze and whoa is that a tone shift

[@briandaniels2126]

I absolutely loved this video and you're telling of it.I am a long time fan of The Eagles album "Desperado" which has the story of The Doolin-Dalton Gang immortalized in the form of brilliant song.Thank you again and have a wonderfully fulfilling day.

[@bacountess]

I am a descent of the Dalton Gang my grandparents went to Coffeyville in 1982 they said get out!! Great memories… Thank You for this Doc.

[@rosebrown6381]

Definitely heard about these two from the Eagles song (Doolin' Dalton) and the sequel (Doolin' Dalton reprise/ Desperado) before this, but I never knew the full story. This was facisinating to learn the full context behind the songs.

[@gennehring1]

"Dick Speed" what a legendary name...I wonder if his cousin Hypersonic Yeet, survived the shootout.

[@jessicajujubean5004]

That name sounds like either a porn star or a flamboyant 1980s hair metal guitarist

[@ddalton1747]

Hey, my family made KZbin. Cool. We still own property right outside Coffeyville. One of the banks is still in operation, and my dad who is also a Bob Dalton gets ALLLLLL the jokes.

[@jmyd83]

How's uncle bob doing 😂

[@chancefort9864]

I live 5 miles south of coffeyville ks. There's a cave that has their names carved in it. Not sure if them or was others later in time. Love seeing local history on here

[@michaelsinger4638]

The Battle of Ingalls could probably deserve it’s own video. Such a wild event and a big failure for the US Marshals.

[@Thehomelessathlete]

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[@realbetis1]

And now Ingalls looks like it’s frozen in time

[@realdizzle87]

We've all been there before: "Hold my beer..." 30 seconds later (in shrieking panic while sprinting away)... "Give me my beer back! Give me my beer back!"

[@tristanpayne6322]

The Billington Brothers might make for an interesting video! I don’t know much about them but I think they almost blew up the mayflower on accident and that John Billington was the first person to hang in the Plymouth Colonies.

[@rubencolvill]

Please could you do a video on Richard Feynman? He was a very interesting man and it would be great to hear his story in your unique style.

[@athuldas2634]

Who is he?

[@Thehomelessathlete]

Ethan_hawk_d

[@joelb8653]

Surely you're joking Mr. Feynman may be my favorite autobiographies.

[@joelb8653]

@@athuldas2634 a Nobel prize winning physicist.

[@athuldas2634]

@@joelb8653 sorry I don't know him But I'm looking forward to his profile

[@cdfdesantis699]

We in the USA love to romanticize the outlaws of the Old West, much as the UK romanticizes Robin Hood, & EVERYONE romanticizes pirates. However, the majority of the American outlaws were simply vicious, greedy robbers & murderers, taking advantage of every opportunity to criminally line their own pockets. Some of them even worked both sides of the law, becoming lawmen who turned on their fellow outlaws if the bounties were big enough, or the politics of a town or territory suited their purposes. These criminals evolved directly into the well-known gangs of the 1920's-'30's such as John Dillinger, Ma Barker & her clan, Pretty Boy Floyd, & Bonnie & Clyde. For many, it's always easier to "steal from the rich, so WE'RE not poor", than it is to make an honest living. Sounds a little LAZY, if you ask me!

[@WaddedBliss]

We do the same in the UK. Although not Robin Hood cos he was fictional. Definitely for Dick Turpin, a highwayman who was just a common thug in reality.

[@cdfdesantis699]

@@WaddedBliss Hi! Yes, I've seen a documentary or 2 that looked at Turpin's criminal career, & he DOES come off as a rather slimy, blustering opportunist who only ever helped himself. I don't know - maybe there's something about these ne'er-do-wells we just love to hate! Thanks for your comment.

[@IROC400]

You forgot the part where the Dalton gang was betrayed in coffeeville. Coffeyville's preparedness likely led to the dual bank robbery not being a success.

[@curiousworld7912]

The Eagles album, 'Desperado' comes to mind...

[@jaxsonlzimmerman5523]

I thought you can close February with one of 4 options: Zora Neale Thurston, Louis Armstrong, or Cab Calloway or Langston Hughes

[@WaddedBliss]

I'd love to see one on Langston Hughes.

[@seanbrazell7095]

Ah yes, the "Reign of Fire" story. Such is my overwhelming awesome grasp of history. And dragons.

[@ignitionfrn2223]

1:50 - Chapter 1 - Bill Dalton 5:15 - Chapter 2 - Bill Doolin 7:30 - Mid roll ads 9:15 - Chapter 3 - The wild bunch rides 13:05 - Chapter 4 - One by one, they all fall down

[@joeyr7294]

I was re watching casual criminalist vids waiting for this moment of the morning lol

[@Thehomelessathlete]

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[@mikereeder3703]

I've grown up in Oklahoma and love the state's wild history as one of the last bastions of the Old West. It seems so strange when we realize that the Old West didn't simply end and the new era of gangsters begin with their more modern guns and Model As. The two periods slightly over-lapped with a few Old West outlaws still around as late as the 1920s! It is almost like the outlaws just gave up their horses and bought cars. As late as 1915 in Oklahoma there were still people in small towns still coming in off the range with a Colt strapped to their hip wearing spurs and wide-brimmed hats. An amazing transitional time.

[@HomesteadDreaming]

I'm really enjoying these episodes based near where I live

[@larryisabell1127]

There is a movie called "Cattle Annie and Little Britches" from 1980. Burt Lancaster played Bill Doolin and Scott Glenn played Bill Dalton.

[@stanlindert6332]

I’m reminded of the wonderful album that the Eagles made.

[@heyher_the_odd]

You should do a vid on Henrietta Swan Leavitt. She did so much for astronomy and her findings are still used today.

[@seandawson5899]

I did not know my favorite Eagles song, "Dooling-Dalton" was based on real life.

[@skrag2112]

And I didn't know 'Rose Of Cimarron' by Poco was a real person.

[@gatsby201041]

I loved this video! Finally something besides ancient Rome and WW2.

[@tomantush4867]

Bill Tilghman most certainly deserves your attention.

[@caeserromero3013]

Don't forget their other famous relative, Tim who was a secret agent...and a Prince of Mongo... :)

[@db3536]

Coffeeville, KS is clear down in the SW corner of KS. Close to both MO and OK. Good video thanks

[@physcoiko]

Awesome I'm a decendent of the Doltons and I can never find any good videos. Thanks whistleboy!

[@thebadaids]

Like another commenter, the Wild West, pirates, native Americans, anything like that is gold to listen to. It’s such an interesting time and cultures of interest. Especially native Americans. To me, as someone from the south US, I live in an area where there’s a very huge amount of natives where I live, and it’d be cool to hear you cover some more of their lives and the different tribes.

[@j.a.weishaupt1748]

Please do one about William of Orange

[@isaackolman2861]

Simon, I really appreciate you not trying to clickbait us, but if I had known this was a video about the wild bunch I would have watched it way quicker! Keep up the good work fact boy!

[@rachyface618]

This video is both educational and fun! While I am normally annoyed by sponsorship interruptions, you managed to make yours equally entertaining. Well done! 🙌🏼💜

[@MoneyMikeMurray]

More wild west please! Along with some side info indicating there were 2 "wild bunch" gangs. More notorious would be the hole in the wall gang/ wild bunch of z Utah/ Wyoming. Love what you do on all your channels Simon!!!

[@berberlevin1]

Coffeyville is only 2 hours drive from where I live. I should go check out the Dalton museum

[@lyleslaton3086]

Guns,guns,guns and dynamite! What could be better than that? Oh, yes, booze, horses,harlots and money!

[@Old-ded-memes]

So this was the inspiration for Red dead redemption 2?

[@josephkmeyer5178]

Can you please do governor George Wallace? His journey from moderate to the face of segregation back to moderate would be wonderful to hear about.

[@pgd3938]

Can you do general windfield Scott or general John j Pershing ??

[@natsudama4604]

So these guys are what inspired the Dalton's from lucky luke?

[@jeffcarroll1990shock]

"What did you say?"

[@HUNTERKOOPMANN]

My great great grandfather was Floyd Hunter who married Emma Dalton. So this is really cool to see!

[@NoID42069]

Doolin-Dalton is my fav Eagles song

[@drewknoles3258]

I have been to Ingalls. Love that local history.

[@jejh600]

I love wild west stories!

[@WolfMaiden11]

Yes, please! Also do a video on THE THREE GUARDSMEN!

[@eviedevi.]

VSAUCE, MICHAEL HERE

[@HateTheGameTX]

A city about 15 minutes away from me was the last robbery from the Dalton gang in May 1894. Longview Texas

[@TheEvilCommenter]

Good video 👍

[@IG7799-c4u]

"56 seconds ago" You haven't even watched it lol.

[@Thehomelessathlete]

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[@fvckyoutubescensorshipandt2718]

Monk Pack might as well be called Skunk Pack, because the price stinks at over $2 ea (apparently meant for rich yuppies).

[@eliasmd2003able]

Wonder Valley In Central California there's a mountain named after them. Dalton mountain.

[@rusm5710]

You could make a series of videos about this subject

[@ScottGladstein]

I'd dig a video on the Three Guardsmen.

[@Momo_Kawashima]

I was expecting the Daltons' cartoon opening to start randomly

[@ChickSage]

I would really like to see you do one on Jelly Bryce. He was one of the most deadly gunmen, of all time.

[@Alexis01]

Simon sure is good at advertising food

[@AnneFlint]

The Mausoleum of Baroness Demidoff might make an interesting talk

[@Th3Ph03n1x]

Can you do a video on Tulsa Jack Blake? He’s a distant relative of mine and I’d love to see more about it.

[@diversejoe617]

3rd consecutive video in a row, biographics should do their next video on Abraham Lincoln

[@Diomedes99]

If I didn’t have this for my morning 💩 I dunno what I’d do.

[@harleycynofficial]

Dalton cousin here. The reason that train robbery went so badly is because Bob broke his leg getting on the train. While he was holding the engineer at gunpoint, "Blackface Charley" Bryant went after the conductor and messenger and tied them up. Then they emptied the safe. The messenger got free and tried to use the telegraph to send a message. Charley saw what he was doing and shot him. Then he and Bob jumped off the train, onto their horses. Because they were on the lam, Bob couldn't go to a doctor for his leg. Adelaide had to fix him up. To say she was mad was an understatement. She made him and Cole swear "no more trains". The next year Bob was gunned down when the gang attempted to rob two banks at the same time.

[@m.j.vazquez4720]

oh i didnt know there was a different wild bunch gang i only knew of Butch Cassidy's Wild Bunch

[@butter1339]

Was wondering if you can do a video of my ancestor bill tilghman he was a legendary lawman in the wild west, p.s the gh is silent.

[@johnmckee2266]

Apparently we have two different wild bunches in mind… mine is the wild bunch headed by Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid…Harry Longabaugh (s) and Robert Leroy Parker..look it up.

[@arianafox365]

“The sequel is never as good as the original” BLADERUNNER 2049. THE DARK KNIGHT. THE TWO TOWERS!! And that’s it that’s literally it lol.

[@luciusrammer7648]

Have you considered covering the Funky Bunch?

[@angelakilpatrick6412]

Hi Simon. Did you do a bio about Wyatt Earp?

[@miketheyunggod2534]

Fun fact: The last gang member died in 1975. It was one of the eleven year old girls who would periodically be sent ahead to see if it was safe to continue on the path they were on.

[@rongarrett1366]

Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid carried on the Wild Bunch name with their colleagues.

[@rebaeasler]

The Dawton Gang is in my ancestry. So I'm interested in information.

[@jonnybyrne989]

An Irishman living in Oklahoma, this was really good 👍

[@thedevilluis]

Dutch always has a plan.

[@dawnmason9558]

More of these please or story of the “ real” Peaky Blinders please.?

[@eliasmd2003able]

@@jeffdroog You'd be dead by know for saying that back then. Just saying.

[@arronyantis5076]

Ol yantis 💨💨 deff ain't the story thats in the family Bible 😂😂

[@rongarrett1366]

Coffeyville City Marshal Charles Connelly was also killed in the shootout.

[@comettamer]

Who knew there were two different wild bunch gangs? Kinda wild that.

[@noahlogue3807]

Been to Coffeeville and seen the sight.

[@josephterry1390]

Hey Simon I was wondering if you could do a Biographics on John Dillinger the bank robber

[@Absaroka]

I'm related to the Dalton Gang actually. Kind of weird seeing it in Biographics!

[@faeriesmak]

So am I, cousin!

[@Espirivit]

Well, isn't that funny. Related to then through my maternal grandfather's side of the family.

[@faeriesmak]

@@Espirivit Mine is through my Father's side of the family. It's pretty distant, though, and the Dalton's had a million kids so I am not sure exactly which one is my relative yet.

[@akdalton8581]

My name is Eric Dalton, descendant of Elliot. These where my no good Wild West cowboy ancestors believe it or not.

[@calebbean1384]

Doolin was from Clarksville, Arkansas? So am I, how odd 😅

[@88happiness]

I thought this was about Jack Doolin, the Wild Colonial Boy!!

[@MisterNotlob]

One man known to history as “Dynamite Dick” and another as “Little Dick”. Life really isn’t fair.

[@Ant-ls2pr]

Simon chewing on sweets, serious channel😁😁

[@upcomingcarrot2546]

Can the podcast be updated please

[@michelledickens175]

fun fact my 4x grandmother was like 1st or second cousins with the daltons her name was mary jane dalton

[@JeniPugh]

❤oh 😱 yes 😂👍 thanks 👍❤

[@w_a_b_b_i_t2781]

I'd love to watch a video on the three guardsmen 🤙