The double edged axe is STUPID! - Pop-culture weapons analysed

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The double bladed axe, or double edged axe, also known as the double bitted axe, IS STUPID!! and in this video I dive deep and explain in detail.
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[@shadiversity]

Great reply video by Skallagrim giving a bit more context on double headed axes: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3nZmHppitiMp6s

[@Cassiel75]

Ok /-I accept the challenge of proven benefit or superiority of the double-axe ... How is this? Imagine that the axe in its twin symmetry is actually two 2 paired and axial opposite axes in i n wedlock(so to speak) The first strike with all the added heft of its mass and the use of both hands for THE FIRST STRIKE! * where after one nimbly divides the moon and has two bilateral axe-weapons?

[@Cassiel75]

But in essence e you are quite right ,Sir But a minotaur just look so undressed without this two-moon configuration as their armament....

[@Cassiel75]

PS thnx for the Campfire blaze shout-out /-I use it all the time

[@Cassiel75]

And as The Maleficent Skallagrim points out, Heroes of Might and Magic repudiate with absolute truth your indignation, you curr! :)

[@nientedirilevante_230]

@@Cassiel75 that's enough to me

[@AdamBlade17]

Shad, you missed a crucial advantage of the double edged axe, one that makes it far superior to all other axes: you can use it as an emergency paddle.

[@sffc95]

A Paddle that doubles as an anchor. Mighty fine design indeed!

[@markusfreund6961]

Not to mention the emergency shovel.

[@rutgerdemuelenaere2363]

And in a pinch you can cook 2 steaks or steak and eggs at the same time.

[@vale.antoni]

But would it add as much rowing power, that justifies the weight deficit, when compared to a single headed axe?

[@Scoelho83]

@@vale.antoni i never big of axe because they can be stuck easy than sword but axe with spike wow that is OP

[@PochocloEn3D]

Next Shadiversity video: "Every weapon that is not a stick is absolute garbage"

[@jasperzanovich2504]

A speer may be 10 times as good as the good ol stick but it also takes 20 times as much work to build one.

[@johncox9575]

@@jasperzanovich2504 cut one end to point. You have spear. Not that much work my friend

[@noneofyourbusiness2437]

Well in a sense this is actually legitimately correct. Numchucks, flails, whips, and other such weapons are shit. The only weapons that are legitimately good are sticks. Think about it, spears, axes, and war picks are sticks with sharp pieces of metal attached. Swords are very thin, sharp, metal sticks. Maces, war hammers, and mauls are sticks with blunt, weighted, metal heads on the end. Pole arms are effectively a mixture of spears, axes, war picks and/or war hammers. Even bows and crossbows use the flexibility and tensile strength of sticks to launch other aerodynamic sticks with sharp pieces of metal on the end. Hell even GUNS are hollow metal sticks that contain miniture explosions in order to launch aerodynamic pieces of copper and lead very accurately at super sonic speeds. All good weapons are solid sticks.

[@BennyLlama39]

I can see how that one would go... Me: Ah, but what about a grenade launcher? Shad: Basically a hollow metal stick that shoots things. Even a rifle is a hollow metal stick attached to a flat wooden stick and shoots things.

[@arjyabirhazra1135]

Sling? Joerg Sprave's slingshots?

[@ianbelanger7459]

As a side note, the double bit wood axe is often sharpened differently on each head to create a fine edge and a more wedge shaped edge. The fine edge would be used for felling and bucking, while the stouter edge would be used on knotty sections and for delimbing. If all the tools have to be carried to the job, one less handle and some of an axe head can make a difference. It is also a real advantage if the tree and stump have to both be removed because chopping in the dirt with a fine edged cutting axe is a great way to chip it.

[@oscarsilver3773]

Agreed. One side was more of a blunt sledgehammer and the other was more for a sharp slicing. The extra weight would deal more damage from follow through and shouldn't be used if they were too heavy for you 😜 that's why short handled double blades would be nice for the average person, while the longer ones were more for the Hulk-sized ppl. 👀 I mean, who swings a sledgehammer around all day? One side through the front door, and the other to chop off someone's head? 😱

[@chr0onomeister]

I think it also works for different wood types, finer edge for softer woods like pine and the stouter edge for harder woods like oak.

[@shaynecarter-murray3127]

Hah came here to say this and see you beat me to it. But I posted anyway to give ore chances for it to be seen

[@Great_Olaf5]

I like the idea of a double headed axe where the back end is more of a blunt tool, like a long, narrow, curved hammer head. There are definitely times where you might need both a blunt and a sharp instrument on a Medieval battlefield, and it's basically coming at the issue from the opposite direction of the warhammer, instead of a blunt weapon with sharp bits added on, a sharp weapon with blunt bits added on.

[@MrBottlecapBill]

Agreed. I've found quite a few of them metal detecting, of various ages. Most of them seem to have this type of blade configuration although not all of them do. I suspect the ones that don't are modern made versions and the makers just didn't understand the true point of two edges.

[@user-pi7jz7pl4n]

"The drip is more important than stats" - Sun Tzu the drip lord.

[@axelcota8901]

The drip of war

[@nothingmuch1129]

The art of drip

[@chasethemaster3440]

The art of drip war

[@mongoliaenginerzpop5316]

If you in battle drip is matter

[@billbull1JB-EH]

Fashion souls

[@TrueUnderDawgGaming]

Just saw a video where a woman fails to chop a piece of wood, causing the axe to bounce back into her forehead, and I immediately thought, "So that's why they aren't double sided!" 0_0

[@rogerramiussergeialexander5541]

They make double-bladed wood axes though......

[@JugglingAddict]

@@rogerramiussergeialexander5541 Natural selection, those who don't get a darwin aaward remain.

[@rogerramiussergeialexander5541]

@@JugglingAddict ah, a fellow Brandon Herrera fan.

[@yodasmomisondrugs7959]

@@rogerramiussergeialexander5541 You are correct, and they work just fine if you know how to swing it.

[@JugglingAddict]

@@yodasmomisondrugs7959 How did you know?

[@sirapple2406]

Very good arguments, but consider this: "It looks really cool tho".

[@qwormuli77]

As cool as a double spoon.

[@curtisimhof7738]

Still objectively better than nunchucks

[@maxuzumaki5754]

Man of culture right here

[@ProGamerSRB]

He mentions it around 8:30

[@dersaegefisch]

@@qwormuli77 Hey! Don't shit on double spoons!

[@eoagr1780]

There’s a whole chapter in the Dwarves’ book of grudges about Shad now

[@smokejensin1662]

Who's Chad?

[@TheAtlarchy]

Except Dwarves are superior in strength and they have literally too much metals... So to them a bit different reality applies...

[@Hsaelt]

Australian dwarves are sharpening their boomeraxes.

[@johndee2990]

I don't think so, Dwarves use their axes as tools and weapons.. they might literally only use one side for War and the other for Work. With that very understanding that some Wood Axes have a sharper chopping edge with the other being in a general wedge shape for bucking off limbs. I'm certain Dwarven axes are used to cut and chop off mugs of ore from veins.. Thus a Dwarven Axe is purely functional in design.

[@swaghettimemeballs4420]

@@smokejensin1662 Shad's a chad, you know it.

[@Kaleidoface]

Shad: "Say 'no' to too much head!" Kylo Ren: "I know what I have to do.....but I don't know if I have the strength to do it."

[@AzureJay1214]

> Shad: "Say 'no' to too much head!" Lmao looked for someone that noticed that

[@StephenAgneta]

"Shad is stupid" - signed Mr Double Edged Axe

[@Row_of_E]

And that day... a rivalry was born...

[@hazeleonius3890]

@@Row_of_E big stick vs double edged axe

[@anyways4438]

"I agree with this respectful gentleman" - signed Mr Nunchucks

[@Deeznutz002]

😣 By Odins beard! I'll never say no to head!

[@phrog9828]

He’s very inadequate when it comes to using him as a weapon

[@ethanstaaf404]

“If I only had an hour to chop down a tree, I would spend the first 45 minutes sharpening my axe.” - Abraham Lincoln.

[@mintyflimple3221]

Abraham Lincoln couldn’t have said that, because he is dead

[@Phantom-Neon]

@@mintyflimple3221 lmfao 🤣 that was a joke yes?

[@gooeyboy706]

@@mintyflimple3221 Galaxy brain

[@Jim-vq9yg]

If I only have 1 hour to explain why a double headed is dumb I'll spend the first 45 rambling about ???

[@jerri1918]

@@Phantom-Neon no it isnt a joke, surprisingly abraham lincoln has been dead for over 100 years

[@stephenknizek2651]

Double bitted axes are good because trees…tend…not to fight back.

[@scariuslvl9987]

well... I think lumberjack is one of the professions with the most accidents

[@commanderblargh6300]

What about hostile tree ents?

[@PopeEanred]

You could say they're rooted in pacifism

[@holderheck]

@@scariuslvl9987 you're thinking arborist. Being a lumberjack is actually rather safe now it is being an arborist climbing up to the tree and cutting it down from the top is actually the one that gets you killed. The other guys in the industry who die really often are the chain pullers. So Lumberjack cuts down the tree then the chain puller hooks up the chain and then the chain pulls the log back to the processing centre. When the tension first goes on the Chain sometimes snap sometimes they tense up right away and if you're in the path of the chain it can take yer arm or leg off. It's a rare thing that The Lumberjack actually dies because Lumberjacks are clear cutting trees normally they have tools and equipment that either keep them safe or they're cutting the trees and such a way they don't need to worry about things like widow-makers which arborist still need to concern themselves with.

[@cpeabody85]

@@scariuslvl9987 is it that the profession has more injuries because of the tools, or the idiot that looks at it and says "I can do that just as good as that guy. Hey George, hold my ale!"

[@robertholte2716]

I grew up using an axe as a child, trimming the branches on the trees that my father had felled, using a double bladed axe. I was 6-7 years old, and my father could take a limb off a tree 5-6" thick in a single stroke, and, damn, how I wanted to be that good! He explained to me that the single blade axe was for felling trees, where you worked the axe at 2 angles into the cut (he used a chain saw though!) and you changed the angle with a body-shift and a shift of your grip. When trimming a tree out, the blade had to hit the branch very close to the tree (so that shock wouldn't be absorbed by the springiness of the branch) and at a very precise angle. Cutting a branch off in one swipe isn't about brute strength, it's more akin to the trick of ripping a phone book in half. Anyways, this is what a double bladed axe is really for, it has a balance that a single blade does not have, and in skilled hands, you can be much more precise in your angle, cutting much deeper than you would have managed with your angle slightly off on the head of the axe. By the time I was 12-13, I was able to "walk the trunk" and swing that axe in an almost constant motion, swiping branches off the felled tree in single swipes, up to 4-5".

[@Armored_Muskrat]

Branch lopping is a lot easier with a blade in each direction, good point.

[@datdankdj8264]

I always used a machete, then again, I cut the trees down with a hatchet or said machete because I didn’t have a double axe lol

[@Gworgalad]

The reason's double headed axes have value: While barrel riding and you have to tap many goblins in rapid succession. Since all you have to do is tap a goblin with an axe to kill it (as we see in the historical films "The Hobbit") you don't need the extra power swing. Considering this, you could be very efficient in holding the axe straight out in front of you and just swiping left and right like you're using a metal detector and you'd be able to kill enemies by the trillions.

[@WlLDEHlLDE]

That comment made my day mate^^

[@JoicPersonal]

I know this is a joke, but Shad already made a video on how unrealistic barrel riding is.

[@WlLDEHlLDE]

@@JoicPersonal That's why he made the joke...

[@JoicPersonal]

@@WlLDEHlLDE Yeah I don't live up to my username

[@marvintimke3978]

So, like a scythe? That's kinda the motion you do, when you're using a scythe to cut grass. You're pretty much harvesting the goblins

[@Adamant4160]

As someone who has felled trees with an axe before, the double bitted axe is really helpful for edge alignment on repeating horizontal strikes. The single bitted axe wants to twist in your hands during a horizontal swing because it's unbalanced. It's not a big deal, but it causes a lot of forearm fatigue after a lot of swings. The double bitted axe really makes the task a lot easier due to it being balanced.

[@Vilverna]

I wonder if the same thing can be said for a double-edged battle axe.

[@TheExileFox]

this is unrelated to the theme but it does relate to the weapon: double-bladed axes have been used in Robot Wars and other such competitions. because then you can attack aggressively from both front and back. This has has also been implemented with double-sided ice-picks and they do make interesting and effective weapons.

[@maksymilianpuscian8270]

@@Vilverna It can't really, becasue battle axes have much lighter and thinner heads than ones used in chopping trees, therefore it doesn't strain forearms as much when you try to keep the edge alignment using a battle axe.

[@HastyChester]

I always thought the best part was having a second blade for when the first dulls. Trying to fell some hardwoods can take a toll on the edge. Never thought of the balance aspect.

[@txorimorea3869]

@@maksymilianpuscian8270 Both of your arguments help to make a point for bronze double edged axes: they made sense because before steel it was not possible to make them lighter and thinner enough to avoid forearm strain without making them too weak.

[@Greideren]

First we had "nunchakus are dumb". Now we have "double headed axes are stupid". Next we'll have "not finishing enemies with your pommel isn't righteous"

[@scottallen7484]

This is the only way.

[@hvy1ton]

One of the biggest advantages of double bit wood axes is sectional density. A double bit axe can be made heavier without making the head wider. This helped greatly felling the old growth hardwoods that were common place in North America during the 1800s. It wasn't until chainsaws and the need to drive wedges that fellers started carrying single bit axes.

[@robertholte2716]

yes, most single blade wood axes are thicker at the back to give added weight to the axe. A double bladed axe is thinner through and has a similar weight. And also, as I said in another post, you have better balance and control over the blade, which can increase the depth of your cut.

[@trenchrat5359]

@@robertholte2716 You could also have the second edge be duller

[@casey9439]

@@trenchrat5359 Both ends were sharp when used. They are only meant to be used sideways. That way there is no chance of a rebounding blade coming at you. They are only for felling trees. Never for splitting logs or trimming limbs. A very specialized tool.

[@edwardperdue8212]

Think guy doesn't have the intelligence to comprehend the science behind striking, e= mass and speed squared it also allows for back and forth sweeps without rotating the tool, it is hard to believe that he can't appreciate such a devastating weapon and it's a shame that he would never face anyone skilled with it, try claymore style, a spear would be the awnser, I would take the battle ax he can use his tiny little hatchet and even a shield . And he simply would rue the day he didn't comprehend the strength and power and speed of the large heavy weapon and his reach farrrrrrr to short.

[@casey9439]

@@edwardperdue8212 and if your enemy gets in close, that big two-handed weapon is useless. it would be really funny to watch someone try to wield an axe in the way you describe.

[@dominuspopuli]

"Ah," the blacksmith said, "if this double-bitted axe isn't to your liking, perhaps you need something fiercer? I have just the thing; a barb-gripped, triple-bitted, flail axe."

[@unknownyoutuber2007]

Only if it's made out of Damascus Steel on Forged in Fire.

[@forkittens]

i'd like mine as a set of nunchuk attachments, please.

[@nathancarroll4954]

With folded steel to make it unbreakable like a katana.

[@unknownyoutuber2007]

@@forkittens Why stop there? Attach two of them with a small six inch segment of chain and have a nunchaxe

[@unknownyoutuber2007]

That has got to be the best idea for a Barbarian weapon in D&D. Whew. The statline on that thing would be insane.

[@davidwhidden9337]

The neighbours hearing Shad yell stupid over and over, "Is it about TV show battles? Weapons? Armor? Hammer and nail? Did he lose the barrel?"

[@MidnightSt]

then they hear "NO! It's STUPID!" "Oh, that's gonna be either fantasy weapons or tv show battles"

[@samnope7344]

"Big stick energy" "Say no to too much head" I'm sensing a theme here

[@acewithglasses5746]

He loves his innuendos

[@jacobnugent8159]

I’m sorry but you have a dirty mind

[@Odwolf2]

He's also been saying "context" a lot. Omg! SHAD IS MATT EASTON IN DISGUISE!

[@Reason4234]

The theme is weapons, of course.

[@MrWhatdafuBOOM]

Nunchuck critique in the past: *'BIG STICK ENERGY'* Battleaxe critique in the present: *'SAY NO TO TOO MUCH HEAD'* Arrow critique in the future: *'THE RIGHT SHAFT MATTERS'*

[@nathanbrady8529]

I would argue the weight on the second head lined up behind the first would nearly double the force of the impact. However, if that is the idea, it would still be wiser to have a different type of head on the backside for flexibility rather than 2 identical heads.

[@lancerooke]

Double bit axe is more aerodynamic. You can whip a double bit faster and with greater accuracy than you would with a single bit. And that factor along with the increased weight means deeper penetration. I don’t know how good it would be in battle, but the double bit axe is excellent for chopping wood. You don’t even need to set your pieces on a chopping block. You can chop wood where it lays. Which means less time spent working and less time bending your back.

[@sofieselene]

Or just weight the end of the handle itself, same effect.

[@eugenekearney6971]

@@sofieselene first from experience not as stable, and likely to fail.

[@Stop_Gooning]

Not quite double the weight + it takes more work to swing = I'm not sure how all that works out On a wood chopping axe the 2nd blade is for when the first one starts to get dull, you can flip it around and don't have to sharpen it as often.

[@mattjack3983]

Personally, id much rather have a pick, or hammer, on the other side than another bit. Ive never weilded an axe of any kind in melee combat, but i feel like that would be much more versatile and effective.

[@redandyellojello]

We do want Gimli's axe, because he didn't have a double-headed axe at this time in the movie. He only got the double-headed axe after visiting Balin's tomb as it was Balin's axe.

[@GrimnirTheWhite]

yeah he carried multiple bearded axes with him and only fights with Balins axe because its his. He uses it to honor his cousin, Shad is unfortunately misguided and I really hope he apologized to gimli. I trust he will if he learns this information.

[@theronraam23]

Balin discovered the axe in his expedition into Moria as a relic of Durin himself.

[@blakegebauer76]

@@theronraam23 so it may be a ceremonial weapon that was never intended to be used. Until it was used to honor its original owners

[@timsippel1845]

Ceremonial use, of course. That answers everything.

[@sirpotatousheadislimberg6346]

@@GrimnirTheWhite lol

[@Señor-Donjusticia]

The year is 2021. KZbin is in a state of all-out war as the nunchuck ninjas, left-side elitist archers, and double-bladed axe barbarians have combined their might against the Shadlands. Only the true hero, wielding the mighty Shword, can save us now. But who is worthy to draw this mythic blade/shield from the legendary back-scabbard?

[@blackdragoncomics3186]

By the power of the SHADLANDS!!!

[@maxh.365]

This is truly beautiful

[@sanguineregis5354]

Okay look us double-bladed axe barbarians still have our pride, don't lump us in with nunchucks. Thats just rude.

[@justinwyllie3359]

It's a shabbard not a back scabbard

[@BlackRabbit223]

"wielding the might Shword"? Dont you mean the mighty stick?

[@kirbymarchbarcena]

KID: Dad, Shad is shouting outside his castle again. DAD: Did he bring his troupe?

[@johndee2990]

Why did this remind me of that comic panel meme, specifically the one with the Crusader.. "Daaaad.. the Saracins are attacking again" "Avie Marie!" -breaks through window- "We must warn the Pope!" On a sidenote, if someone knows the name of said meme format I would be quite Appreciative.

[@Fuzzycat16]

KID: No, He's alone! DAD: Small King...

[@workingmothercatlover6699]

My husband has told me that if you are on a horse, it would be highly awkward to use the back edge. And you may take out your own mount. He also pointed out to me that with these axes, an enemy with a sword may be able to hook the ax with their sword and yank it out of your hands. Less chance of that happening with a single. You have a good grip on it.

[@Tasorius]

Skill issue.

[@solchapeau6343]

"You could pick up a rock and it's a very good weapon" *jump cut*... Shad clearly went on an hour long rant about how rocks are better than sticks.

[@evaruppert9373]

...or Nunchucks...

[@viscountrainbows6452]

Fancy modern fantasy writers: *put thought and effort into the design philosophy of Hurt You Tool* Woke: ... have you tried just bashing the mf over the head with the nearest blunt object? Fantasy writers: You're fired.

[@tach-uq5tw]

I would argue that a stick is better than a rock (given relatively the same quality and weight) and I hate myself for making that argument seriously

[@matthewcooper4248]

YOU ALREADY HAD STICK! STICK VERY GOOD!

[@durandol]

Okay, so, hear me out here. What if we took a rock, and put it on the end of a stick?

[@warandconquest6522]

“Rocks aren’t a good weapon” Slingers: you’re talking mad shit for someone in rock range

[@JeRefuseDeBienPrononcerBaleine]

The best ammunition for slingers was lead so even for slingers rocks are inferior.

[@Y00bi]

@@JeRefuseDeBienPrononcerBaleine In fairness, rocks are abundant.

[@zelg.5551]

@@JeRefuseDeBienPrononcerBaleine Something you need to prepare beforehand VS something you can pick up off the ground for free literally anywhere

[@JeRefuseDeBienPrononcerBaleine]

@@zelg.5551 As a slinger you can't just pick any rock off the ground. It need to be a smooth round rock or else you won't be able to hit your enemy. So yeah, both need to be prepared beforehand.

[@kha4911]

@@JeRefuseDeBienPrononcerBaleine which do you reckon takes more work and consumes a more valuable resource?

[@Krakenghost]

Shad is the only KZbinr who can go on a rant and I actively enjoy it

[@foldionepapyrus3441]

Try Lindybeige, excellent rants there from time to time.

[@ethan-s_yne]

@@foldionepapyrus3441 and Metatron ?

[@nicholaspeters238]

I totally agree cause he actually has a point and they are good points i love his videos

[@santiagosaracho2271]

Greg doucette is good but is all about fitnesd

[@valence9503]

Shad, I have a great answer to your question of what use a double-bit axe is, and it's a classic one at that: the swinging axe dungeon trap!

[@KosteonLink]

Kinda tempting to put a nice spike on the back of that axe trap 😂

[@MartinKincl1993]

In defense of Gimli and his kin: dwarves are much stronger and sturdier than men. They don't tire easily. I don't think weight would be much of an issue. You could make the handle heavier to counterbalance some of the weight - though I think a dwarf could actually prefer the extra weight towards the business end to make it hit as hard as possible. Even so, we can see Gimli's battle axe has holes in it, probably to make it lighter. Speed and agility becomes less of an issue if you have an armour you can rely on and dwarves have the best armour around. Besides, a stocky dwarf will never be as agile as his human opponent anyway. As far as utility of the second bit is concerned; whether fighting the more populous men, orcs or goblins, a dwarf tends to be outnumbered. When fighting multiple enemies, the second bit becomes especially useful when swinging from side to side. Alternatively, a dwarf can keep one side razor sharp for slicing and dicing, while having the other intentionally duller for splitting bones and denting armour. Finally, during long journeys or intense battles, it also makes for a good backup in case one side gets damaged.

[@kaseybennett7415]

This does actually make a decent amount of sense, the only issue I find then is that the dwarves would still probably be better off with spikes and picks, but this is at least not unimaginable

[@stefandorobantu4420]

Nice!

[@sakesaurus]

I have a genius never before seen solution for this B I G G E R A X E I G G E R A X E

[@sakesaurus]

thicker axehead=reliable lol

[@bananaknight8575]

Yes and no. Yeah, they are generally stronger than the average human, but the weight is distributed in another way, they're much much shorter, and that's a factor you gotta keep in mind. Also, practicing some holes through your axe's head? Yeah, you might as well go and intentionally break it... We never see holes in historical axes, and there's a reason for that. Oh and also, if that can carry heavier weapons they could just make larger heads, that way they would be sturdier and less likely to get damaged.

[@sebastiendubois7935]

"Say no to too much head!" I disagree with that statement on a deep, existential level.

[@animejuggernaut2553]

I was gonna mention that XD That can be taken in the wrong way so easily.

[@laughingfurry]

Too much head is also bad for beer. A lot of air, not enough liquid.

[@lordfawful2329]

There goes the Big Stick Energy.

[@Gearparadummies]

Sincerely yours: The size 5 helmet gang.(My size, BTW)

[@MrWhatdafuBOOM]

Nunchuck critique in the past: *'BIG STICK ENERGY'* Battleaxe critique in the present: *'SAY NO TO TOO MUCH HEAD'* Arrow critique in the future: *'THE RIGHT SHAFT MATTERS'*

[@JohnSmith-qi6tz]

The ultimative Anti-Shad weapon: double-edged axe-chucks! The double axehead is on both nunchuck parts, of course!

[@Algeyr]

Imagine nunchucks with spiked balls on a chain on each end.

[@thegamingsentinel9238]

Oh god the pain the user would have

[@lunawolfheart336]

That sounds so dangerous to even use

[@101Mant]

The only way it would be Anti-Shad is if he could be persuaded to use it. Sounds way more dangerous to the user than anyone else.

[@alexsattar4623]

I can see this appearing in a Devil May Cry game.

[@wizzy77667767]

I think the only real benefit to having a second head on a battleaxe would actually be the added weight. And yes, that's also a detriment, but if you're trying to land devastating blows (especially with a blunted axe head!), more weight means more power, which will lead to a lot more damage. That being said, if that's the reason you want more weight in an axe head and you're willing and able to handle a heavier axe, just... put a hammer head on the other side... Something akin to the Venetian poleaxe. That way you have the extra weight to deliver a devastating blow, AND you have the option of making using a hammer head or an axe head

[@Stop_Gooning]

On a wood chopping axe the 2nd blade is for when the first one starts to get dull, you can flip it around and don't have to sharpen it as often. Would that be useful on a battle axe?

[@NecroAsphyxia]

Shad: “Say no to too much head” Drunk dwarf raising a flagon: “I can drink to that!”

[@charleshetrick3152]

I think the dwarf in the back room getting his knob polished would be voting for more head.

[@shosty575]

@@charleshetrick3152 I snorted.

[@mareczek00713]

Chad Shad starts No Nut in june...

[@guyver6622]

Fuck LOL :)

[@ComCommie]

@@mareczek00713 No Jizz June

[@CODAZ06]

Shad- "This weapon is just dumb." me- "Warhammer go bonk"

[@spcraftsman2656]

The historical warhammers are pretty useful in combat, especially when against armored opponents.

[@SirLyonhart]

@@spcraftsman2656 They also have a spike on the back for versatility, and I hope to see one used on a cheating ex's car at some point.

[@GCHumanGuy]

@@SirLyonhart Watch Shad's Bec de corbin video

[@brysonevans7367]

@@FatherAndrew-Scarlet-Priest WAAAAAAAAAGGGGHHHH

[@SirLyonhart]

@@GCHumanGuy Yes, the Bec de Corbin is designed similarly, but is a pole arm rather than a 1-handed melee weapon. A shorter weapon would be more practical for modern day carry.

[@clementverkimpe940]

almost no one have represented double axe on historical drawing, because no one had the time to see a warrior with a double edged axe, they all die from heart attack from the awesomeness of this large et viril mass of rough edged metal!

[@babisvoid8034]

A Symbol of the ancient kingdom of Crete is the double edge axe or Διπλός πέλεκυς which literally translates to double axe to say that it has never been represented is a mistake

[@PapperWORLD]

I am from Greece xd

[@patximartel]

Well. Persian double headed axes exist in museums.

[@liamhogan4369]

@@babisvoid8034 Shad did not say double headed axes were not represented. He said they did not exist in Medieval pictorial records of in more than a handful of cases, in which case they should be written of as artistic embellishment. A Cretan coat-of-arms is not European, and probably before say the 6th century. Moreover, Shad did not deny the existence of decorative double edged axes, showing a picture of such at the start. In which category a coat of arms most definitively falls. I’m curious about those Persian axes. My guess is they were ceremonial, but it’s entirely possible cultures that did not utilize the axe as often did not optimize it’s form. It’s not like Halberds sprang into existence at the same time as Dane axes.

[@madmattgaming3951]

@@liamhogan4369 Hate to break it to you bud, Crete in located in Greece, which is located in Europe. Which makes Crete a European Island. Which makes that Coat-of-arms, European. All that said, you're right, it's not from the time period that Shad is referencing, and you're right that he did not deny the existence of decorative references. But to plainly state that it's not European is a falsehood.

[@ashleyolivia5442]

The main axe head would be sharpened for combat and the secondary edge would be sharpened for chopping through wooden barricades

[@shadowdawns889]

Shad - "Double Edged Axe is Stupid" Ysgramor - "Angry Atmoran Noises"

[@Jonas_æ]

Ahh, don’t worry ‘bout it. Wuuthrad is still rad.

[@poilboiler]

Shad isn't an elf so he's safe. (but really Ysgramor's axe is an unusually ugly version of the dumb double headed)

[@nathanjora7627]

@@poilboiler yep, the flat edges are really ugly :| And seriously what’s wrong with ysgramor’s armor -_- And seriously why couldn’t they give him his actual armor when we meet him >

[@mrkiky]

If Wuuthrad was single bitted, it wouldn't have broken, just sayin.

[@80krauser]

Imagine being a smelly Atmoran unironically- Brought to you by the Altmer Gang

[@Martijn_Steinpatz]

Thorgrim Grudgebearer: "Next entry in the Book of Grudges ... Sha-di-ver-si-ty..."

[@gaming.3075]

Ye

[@Captain_MikeXII]

Grimgor ironhide would agree for once with the stunties

[@louis930408]

So would ungrim lol

[@elite_rock_god2292]

He already sent grombrindal the White dwarf to settled the grudge 😂

[@hampusjohansson5200]

Another entry in the Damaz Kron!

[@Guderian2]

Shad: analyses an Axe objectively. Every Dwarf: And i took that personally!

[@inquisitorbenediktanders3142]

Every Warhammer Inquisitor: Dwarfes take everything personally.

[@Guderian2]

@@inquisitorbenediktanders3142 I guess Shad is now in their book of grudges. Well in one of them anyway. xD

[@inquisitorbenediktanders3142]

@@Guderian2 btw the fastest way to wrong a dwarf is asking them what's the fastest way to wrong them.

[@trazyntheinfinite9895]

@@inquisitorbenediktanders3142 by existing you incur the grudge of some dawi somewhere.

[@inquisitorbenediktanders3142]

@@trazyntheinfinite9895 says the creature that is begrudged by everyone due to you stealing/robbing all their good stuff.

[@robertsnook7443]

Shad: “SAY NO TO TOO MUCH HEAD!” Me: “No... I don’t think I will...”

[@josephcarter1920]

I was looking for this comment😂

[@candiedcrusader7841]

Pfp fits

[@alvinshaw33]

You aint never lied.

[@Buttstonutts]

No such thing as too much head

[@Sauce_Sensei]

Butts ToNutts you say that until she sucks out your soul😂

[@freakboy1984]

Clearly the main point of the second head is for when your opponent's gooey, sticky corpse is stuck to the first head and you still want to cleave a second opponent. The attached corpse of the first opponent also provides additional momentum.

[@insensitive919]

We aren't all Gods tho

[@scottmantooth8785]

*exactly*

[@TerryAVanguard]

Thats kinda what I was thinking. With all the weight on the end cutting/wedgeing into armour would be easier as the weight is on the end giveing more momentum in the blow. Now your blades stuck in your enemy and another is comeing up on the other side. You can just swing instead of haveing to spin the axe in your blood slippery hands mid swing

[@Angelo-nd4lg]

@@TerryAVanguard n more protection for hands in full plate a stance with the axe head as a guard is really good against spears n swords

[@Giltia]

"What are the benefits of the double bladed axe?" It looks cool. Efficiency be damned. Fashion Souls is the TRUE End Game.

[@Vilverna]

this

[@epauletshark3793]

Fear factor as well? Scare people?

[@Ethonra]

"Say no to too much head, okay?" The most valuable lesson of the entire video.

[@lybio8249]

Shad: insults double edge axes Dwarfs: "That's going in the book!"

[@greatdune3174]

I understood that reference.

[@TheAstran1]

Is that warhammer? the book of grudges?

[@Raz0rking]

@@TheAstran1 yes

[@theholymackerel1066]

14:47 "Say NO to too much head" That's the best Shadvice I've ever been given.

[@benderrodriguez5425]

But.... there is no such thing as too much head!!!

[@bobfishtheblobfish3619]

@@benderrodriguez5425 hydra

[@benderrodriguez5425]

@@bobfishtheblobfish3619 that's a negative

[@jocosesonata]

**sad Hecatoncheires noises**

[@koopertrooper7008]

time stamp?

[@lushedleshen]

Stick: I am a stick Shad: But you could be a sword. Stick: I am a stick.

[@Technotoadnotafrog]

And thus was invented the glaive

[@josephscanlan2287]

Is this a "stormlight archive" reference?

[@lushedleshen]

@@josephscanlan2287 Oh absolutely.

[@Scow2]

The double-bitted axe is good for fighting when outnumbered against poorly-disciplined hordes, allowing you to strike with the backswing against a secondary target.

[@merlball8520]

Or, and hear me out, to hit anyone (horde or not) with the backswing.

[@heilmodrhinnheimski]

Such as when fighting…idk, drunken goblins?

[@Deepingmind]

This plan assumes I guess that doubling your weapon weight is somehow easier to manage than turning your wrist.

[@casey9439]

... If those are hordes of old-growth conifers...

[@josoffat7649]

yes yes, guns jam and bullets are finite but try to swing a sword/axe for 20 minutes straight and see how that goes.

[@MrWhatdafuBOOM]

Nunchuck critique in the past: *'BIG STICK ENERGY'* Battleaxe critique in the present: *'SAY NO TO TOO MUCH HEAD'* Arrow critique in the future: *'THE RIGHT SHAFT MATTERS'*

[@edkix5701]

Sounds like chapters in a Sex Ed book...

[@maximsavage]

@@edkix5701 Congratulations, you have correctly identified the joke.

[@jennytalia6724]

idk if such a thing as too much head exists

[@ryansheldrake829]

Future analysis of rapiers vs broadswords: 'YOU CAN HAVE LENGTH OR GIRTH BUT NOT BOTH'

[@ryansheldrake829]

Critique of winged spears: 'JUST THE TIP'

[@funnyvalentinedidnothingwrong]

"I like my fantasy to be more realistic." I'm gonna punch that dragon twenty times in a turn and there's nothing you can do to stop me, Shad.

[@jaffarebellion292]

"Fuckin' Monks..." Meanwhile, an innocent Warlock takes two levels in Fighter to get access to Action Surge and cast Eldritch Blast twice per turn.

[@dahelmang]

"Innocent warlock" That's a rare find

[@justahologram2230]

@@dahelmang there's plenty of pacts that would allow for that, Archfey for example

[@dahelmang]

@@justahologram2230 good point

[@jaffarebellion292]

@@dahelmang *nervous laughter while sweating profusely* Yeah. Totally innocent...

[@WilliamTheMovieFan]

Shad next week: “Consider the lilies of the field…” Us: “He’s having a go at the flowers now!”

[@jonulrich1321]

That would be great

[@Anacronian]

Flowers are a stupid weapon - Pop-culture weapons analysed. Part 1/10

[@danthiel8623]

Heh I understood that reference.

[@lordfulmine]

He says the birds are scrounging

[@nochsta]

Better a silly girl with a flower than a silly boy with a horse and a stick.

[@kyra4369]

Ork fanbase: “HaHa, me choppa’s got two heads to double me choppin’!”

[@Yes-tk4gw]

Also minotaurs and cyclops

[@rarescevei8268]

Hate to be that guy but its orc-

[@hellofranky99]

"Say no to too much head!!" "You speak blasphemy, my good sir. "

[@Wavemaninawe]

Sometimes maybe... you just want to be held, you know?

[@bdb1052]

I will never say no to head hahahaha

[@Daorf]

"I'm a writer" Prove it. *uses "derth" in a sentence*

[@tamlandipper29]

I might be just advertising my ignorance, but isn't it 'dearth'?

[@tamlandipper29]

I just checked. It is dearth, god damn it! Only two likes, smh. 😉

[@markdavis2053]

I’m not much of a writer but I’ll give it a go Someone on the internet has asked me to use the word dearth

About the weight of two-headed axe: pollaxes have axe head one one side, and I think equally heavy hammer head on the other side - so the weight itself is not the deciding factor. The fact that you don't get much from this added weight is. Also, if I remember correctly Gimli axe was stupidly thick.

[@jakob3044]

Ah, but how many Orcs have you killed, hmm?

[@raxenladevaldak1749]

I agree, I don't think the weight was the issue, it was the absence of benefit from that weight. A hammer, or spike, or whatever on the other side adds an additional use to the weapon where another axe head adds the weight with no additional use or function.

[@oddmaddox]

I have the replica Gimli axe, and the head is 20 pounds. Seemingly about a half inch thick in spots. BEEFY. DWARF THICC.

[@overlorddante]

true but both ends are fairly small. I think the question is more about Dane ax sized blades, which likely would get ridiculous to swing around

@@overlorddante Dane ax blades are very thin, so they are not that heavy.

[@WillyMacShow]

What if I use my metronome strategy and pong between two opponents back and forth. I think I saw it in an anime once

[@firesonic1010]

"Say no to too much head" -Shadiversity, 2021

[@KManAbout]

Never

[@michael--a--sometimes]

That's the one I was looking for.

[@donmac7774]

No such thing😁😁

[@spencerjackson3754]

Dang it you beat me to it

[@brianreaver]

Er handles then?

[@jushthehermit]

Shad: "Here it is! The double edged axe in the flesh!" Me: "Ouch! I hope not!"

[@sleepdeep305]

That is such a dumb joke that I'm almost certain I've already heard, but it made me laugh anyway. Good job

[@martinsvamberg5283]

Shad, I have read your book. Absolutely loved it. Explaining of how magic works felt so realistic and believable. Not something like " it works just because". Also combat and storytelling is done greatly. Looking forward for next book!

[@oolexer]

ok

[@Astropeleki]

Since this comment has Shad's attention, I wanna add that Daylen's powers would be a perfect magic/fighting system for a videogame. Just sayin'...

[@adhikachin27]

Haven't read the book but "Just because" done well I think has benefits too, adds to the magic feel, not truly understanding what's going on, feels more, magical

[@michaelparham1328]

Has anyone told shad he was on ridiculousness?

[@AStangeSoup]

Is "Power of friendship" a good explination?

[@2th31]

Shad, your videos are amazingly informative and helpful. My only issue is each video could be half the length if you’d just make your points and not repeat yourself so much. I think people with less tolerance for repetition would find the annoyance of hearing points repeated unnecessarily outweighs the amazing amount of great info your videos contain.

[@manyfailsonewin4352]

he's a good sort, but i've found you can skip the first 8 minutes of most of his vids and don't miss a thing lol

[@RealTwiner]

I concur, there is so much time wasted on repetitive statements and complaining. He makes good points but trying to watch his videos is annoying and I end up just skipping forward when it looks like he's going on yet another rant without providing more info. I think the nunchuck videos probably could have easily been cut down to 20 minutes if you just removed all of that.

[@plazma0325]

"SAY NO TO TOO MUCH HEAD" Thank you, Shad, for promoting healthy and consensual sex.

[@KatieGimple]

Double-headed axes aren't stupid because they're a poor weapon, but rather there are much more effective ways to improve the weapon than a second axe hear (e.g. a spike, hammer, hook, etc.)

[@JarieSuicune]

You basically just said the same thing as Shad... Just except for the part that you are adding siginificant weight for little to no actual benefit with a mirrored blade (hence making it effectively a poor weapon compared to just not having the extra blade).

[@KatieGimple]

@@JarieSuicune Yeah, I was essentially giving a tl;dr, because I personally find it nice to see a short restatement in the comments to help focus my attention on the main point of the video after watching, rather than just letting my mind ramble on about one specific thing

[@therandomdragon80]

I want a shirt that says “say no to too much head” with a picture of an axe on it

[@m.degroot6837]

Nah, I want a picture of angry Shad holding the axe.

[@bmombaerts]

With the concept of the big sword in your book in mind, I could see a justification for a doublesided axe in a similar "enchantment-driven-gear" fantasy setting Where you would make the axe from something that didn't add too much extra weight, and each of the two sides would be enchanted with different enchantments (assuming enchantments can't be stacked for example) Or in a sort of setting where 2 different materials are needed for different targets (The Witcher for example, where Geralt has 2 swords because of that), having one side be made from each type of material could be usefull for the sake of only needing 1 weapon

[@Kreinsamer]

You can tell when Shad starts getting agitated because he doesn't finish his sentences

[@madbrosheo1514]

Me when I see a double axe head: “That still only counts as one!”

[@biggreenangryman1904]

Nice

[@Hurb2]

Nice

[@TheJolle]

That desire for symmetry might be reason why the few historical images actually have double bladed axes. An artist who didn't really know what battle axe would look like

[@elijahknight8438]

As a note, the two bits on a woodcutting axe are so that you can keep a razor sharp edge for cutting through the meat of the wood where you aren't in danger of damaging it, whereas the other edge is used around roots where it's likely to be damaged bu rocks, dirt ect. Not certain this would apply in combat in any way, just thought it was worth mentioning

[@alittlebirdi]

The double-headed axe: perfectly balanced...as all things should be.

[@NomadicBrain]

Sharpened with only the best Yorkshire tea

[@gromczar1589]

Bro that memes been dead for like 2 years

[@bestdadoftheyear7181]

@@gromczar1589 just like yo mama

[@EchoEchoEchoX3]

I’d like to see a true perfectly balanced axe with four heads

[@rambofan334]

But this... does put a smile on my face.

[@toxicdermyillunary4103]

"Shad is wrong" - every single dwares ever created

[@AngelNearDestruction]

The dwemer are more offended by your spelling than your derogatory slang, and worse, if you fix it, you lose Shad’s acknowledgement. Good jobz

[@oscarsilver3773]

🤣

[@toxicdermyillunary4103]

@@AngelNearDestruction oh fuk

[@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714]

HoMM3 battle dwarves have an axe on one side and a hammer on the other.

[@foldionepapyrus3441]

For a dwarf he probably is - a dwarf generally is described as possessing vastly greater strength and mass than their size would suggest - so a heavy reach weapon actually helps them overcome their diminutive nature... And with all that power behind it you probably don't want a spike on the back - it will get so stuck the first time you stick in somebody through their shield and armour you end up needing a new weapon for every strike - as you can not spare the time to pull it free in the middle of a fight...

[@moonflowerviewing91]

Shad: talks shit about axes Dwarfs: scribbles in grudge

[@gaming.3075]

That's a Grudge.

[@gaming.3075]

@@420StepsFromHell yea

[@kyledavis2022]

FOR THE KARAZ ANKOR!

[@funnyvalentinedidnothingwrong]

I hope Shad's children's children's children's children don't plan on buying Dwarven steel.

[@viscountrainbows6452]

Golden Axe on Sega Genesis had the dwarf dude with the lowest cost High Power Spell but his melee game was utter trash. Prolly cos his axe was doubleheaded. In a game with AXE in the feckin title. Needless to say I played as the girl in a bikini the most who could summon a fucking dragon and had a long pointy metal deathstick🐉 Why are you looking at me like that?

[@oopmahsoopmahs1457]

After watching this video I attempted to draw an effective double edged axe. I ended up drawing what I googled later to be similar to the bec de Corbin, Lucerne axe, and a polearm smaller headed stormbreaker with a spike. Anyways, I didnt invent anything new and I couldn't make a not-stupid double edged axe, but it got me thinking why lightsabers weren't way longer. Like the light(saber) part of the lightsaber (not the handle) - why it wasn't like 1000 long and then u could just sweep back and forth to destroy everything rly quickly. I would put three jedi with longsabers on top of a destroyer. One would focus on deflecting all the enemy destroyer lasercannons, another would wave around and kill all the TIE fighters, and the third jedi would focus on touching the enemy destroyer shield generators, officer bay, engines, or whatever would K.O. the fastest.

[@justafurrywithinternet317]

Well, you could argue that maintaining a blade that long would require an absolutely monstrous amount of energy compared to a regular lightsaber.

[@johnf7332]

Well one argument: Gimli didn’t live in Medieval Europe, he lived in Middle Earth where ya got different combat scenarios - ie chopping through several orcs every battle

[@gerbo8018]

axes are pretty bad in a war scenario to start with. Think about how much you can do with people right next to you and behind you. There is a reason why spears and halberds where that common. Much simpler to use in the line.

[@TealWolf26]

But why the second bit though? Put that mass into the same part, have a bigger cleaving wedge. What scenarios would require the second bit? If the sharpness is that big of a concern bring a second axe or a really heavy sword, lots more cutting edge. And why chop through bone, dulling the blade when you can cut the fleshy bits or konk em in da 'ead? It looks cool, and having a second bit for when the first gets dull would work, but is it efficient or even necessary?

[@seanpeery7780]

When he says several, he means several dozen. Far more kills than wild bee expected of a normal European soldier.

[@lestersys]

@@seanpeery7780 Precisely!

[@TheLordofSilence]

@@lestersys What difference is that supposed to make though?

[@commode7x]

In the future: Pop-culture weapons analysed - The double-headed revolver is STUPID!

[@MutedStoryteller]

Actually its very interesting how much stupid guns went through until they became more efficient. Lots of missfires there so to say... The mistakes are almost more interesting then the solutions.

[@alvianekka80]

Did you mean double barrels revolver?

[@skyrodomvil6973]

@@alvianekka80 why 2 when you can have more? Now Duckfoot or pepperbox?

[@UmbraBlades]

The double battle axe, known in ancient Greece as the "pelekys" or "lambrys", evolved from double bitted axes originally used for felling lumber, one of its earliest mentions and depictions are found in Homer's Oddysey where Oddyseus strings his bow and shoots an arrow through the chain ring at the end of the handles of several double battle axes set on the ground to prove that he is indeed the king of the Ionian isle of Ithaca in disguise to the suitors pursuing his wife Penelope and then slaughtering them, and on ancient greek urns depicting the Athenian hero Theseus slaying the Minotaur in the Labyrinth under King Minos's palace in minoan Crete. Several minoan urns also depict priestesses of the goddess of fertility Demetre using heavy ornamental battle axes cast in gold for ceremonial purposes, and said ceremonial double axes are indeed found in archaeological excavations and now kept in museums across Greece. By today's standards it may seem unwieldy and redundant, because in high fantasy like D&D most human/humanoid enemies are armored in heavy iron/steel plate armor, BUT in real life occurences where the double battle axe is used, like in ancient Greece, ancient Egypt, ancient Mesopotamia, ancient Sumeria, ancient Persia, ancient Phoenicia etc. the double axe saw much use in combat as in early Bronze Age/early Iron Age humans usually fought bare chested OR wore light chest armor made of boiled leather, bronze/iron chest plates like we see in hoplite armor and large heavy shields evolving much later.

[@l0stndamned]

Interesting points, I'm glad someone brought that stuff up. They only time I've ever put a double-headed axe in one of my writing projects was specifically someone from that time-period.

[@terenzohugel2293]

even with this: how prevelent were they in the battlefield? I know from a lot of ceremonial uses, I know of relatively little real battle uses. Was it what the "normal" soldier would swing? I think not. But at the same time I'm not an expert on that time frame so... With bronze you might have a higher benefit for double edged axes from the simple fact that it dulls faster than steel though (even though you can harden bronze to a degree and it's not as soft as some might think). So what Shad said, that having a second blade in case the other one gets dull might not be as important on steel axes as on bronze or copper.

[@malkav_ils]

@@terenzohugel2293 many weapons throuought history were not prevalent on the battlefield yet it doesn't make them ineffective or dumb. Double headed axes were seen on the battlefields all over the ancient world and much later, for example in India.

[@mostafamohy8494]

I love reading about this time period but might not know alot of sumers or Persia but i know about egyptian alot and they didn't use double headed axes in battles. And the other mentions might be just a work of liberty. Someone fighting a monitor can't be used to know what they really used. And greeks of this time loved very stabby swords cause of their armor

[@johnkidby7948]

I can actually see how a double edge could benefit a bronze axe in that bronze is at a much higher risk of [edit]critical failure[/edit] than steel, so you might be reasonably likely to benefit from having a backup head. Still, it's a pretty daft design at higher levels of technology.

[@dantucho203]

This video makes me fear for the day shad finally snaps and goes on a murder spree with medieval weapons.

[@karatekan2182]

There have been double-headed symmetrical axes that were used in warfare, there are plenty of examples of Tabar axes with two small blades, usually with a spike on top. They were used by cavalry, and while some were ceremonial, others had scuffs and nicks indicating they were actually used regularly. Mostly made by the Marathas, although there are some Persian and Ottoman examples as well. Plenty of other example substitute the other head for a war pick or simply a weight, so the way they wielded it might have relied on the head being balanced on the other side.

[@Zanemob]

Thank you...

[@keith6706]

There are far more examples of a single-blade tabar than with two equally-sized edges, which sort of vindicates the point: if the two two-bladed design exhibited any improvement in use, you'd see a lot more of them.

[@HamsterPants522]

@@keith6706 But the point is, they were still a thing that some people preferred to use, and they existed.

[@pyrrhicwins5101]

Very interesting, thanks for the information. It seems to me that the evolution of double bitted (or bladed) axes always led to axes similar to the most common halberds. That being an axe blade with a bill and a spear point. I think this combination offers the most utility for the weight it adds to the axe, while also providing the same benefits a double bitted axe provides, such as balance and extra weight in the head for more “oomph.”

[@noblej7897]

I've got single and double headed wood axes. Prefer one handed to use. Blunt back is useful to have on single head and extra weight does affect your stamina over time for double head.

[@fistsofsnake5475]

Blunt side also helps when your axe get stuck in pice of wood.

[@lunawolfheart336]

Very true

[@JohnFourtyTwo]

The blunt side makes an excellent sledgehammer also.👍🪓

[@noblej7897]

@@JohnFourtyTwo exactly

[@Tadicuslegion78]

Throrgrim Grudgebearer: That's going in the Book of Grudges. Dwarf scribe: Grudge? THrorgrim Grudgebearer: Shad of the Shadiversity insulted our beloved axes. Dwarf Scribe: Better make it 2 entries, High King.

[@alizard7617]

One for each axe head

[@grbdevnull5611]

I know this is an older video, but I wonder about a Witcher-type character using a double bladed axe with one edge steel and the other edge silver. Not as nimble as a sword, but lets you have both options on you without switching weapons, and would help if there are any creatures that must be decapitated to completely stop them. Now, I do realize that Geralt (and presumably other witchers, I haven't actually read the stories/books) don't always carry both swords as in the games, and the same vein of logic could be used to suggest a sword with one steel edge and one silver edge, but I think I could buy the argument of a monster slayer who needs both steel and silver weapons using a double bladed axe without it suspending disbelief too much (especially if decapitation/dismemberment were important).

[@Stop_Gooning]

You could make a pair of axe heads that fit together on one handle to make a double headed axe pretty easily. Here's an idea: have both of them on the same side of the axe. That way you hit everybody with both.

[@RodrigoTakehara]

“If it has a lot of pictorial resources it’s good indication that something was used a lot in real life” is the new “pics or it didn’t happen”

[@daryld4457]

Shad, I think you should turn it into a double-headed axe flail by attaching a pair of nunchucks to the hilt 😏

[@Señor-Donjusticia]

Also remember to fire that projectile on the LEFT side.

[@CosmicValkyrie]

Well there's a weapon just like that of a character in a Dota 2.

[@sternis1]

Primary utility for a double-headed axe: Put it in front of a powerful light-source to call Batman. That will take care of of your opponent for sure!

[@notmyrealname5268]

This deserves more likes.

[@NonApplicable1983]

The best double bit axe I’ve seen recently is the one from Ten Earth Shattering Blows. It has a rather small head and a very long handle, and the wielder uses it much like you would use a poleaxe. Since she often fights multiple enemies at once, it actually is rather practical to not have to worry about turning your blade when trying to strike an enemy with a backswing. I still wish it was a poleaxe, though.

[@MatoVuc]

As they say in the army: "if it's stupid and it works, it isn't stupid."

[@dlwatib]

If you enlisted in the army, there's no use arguing about stupidity.

[@chrismanuel9768]

@@dlwatib Name one other job where they'll pay for 4 years of college in full and give you a $20,000 sign on bonus. Besides, the military is less dangerous than a lot of civilian jobs. Seriously, more people die doing shit like working convenience stores. Convenience store clerks need a raise.

[@SonsOfLorgar]

@@chrismanuel9768 not all armies do that, a lot of them isn't even an employment.

[@arjyabirhazra1135]

And that is why they stick with good ol' reliable muskets

[@An.Unsought.Thought]

​@@chrismanuel9768 Well, I don't know about paying for the entirety of college.. because obviously that would be a lot for too many students. Where as the government can just throw our tax money at military grunts all day long without a care in the world.. But Many companies actually have their own tuition assistance. UPS, Amazon, Starbucks.. usually up to 5 grand a year. But then there are also companies like Intel that will go as high as 50 grand. Some Companies will reimburse you 90% of your tuition. You just have to look for them. None of them will go to you, you have to go to them. There are dozens of them. Most people would consider the signing bonus and any pay given by the military to be kind of useless until you get out. While in the military you have basically no life. You are just another slave to the government. Unless you are someone that truly loves bending over for your government, stupidity has to be a common trait if you seriously think there is no other options. The problem is, there are... but unlike those other options the military will literally come to you. They will advertise on Twitch's platform to CHILDREN to get them to believe the military is the only way to get the quickest and easiest cash. What they don't tell you is how much of your life you are giving up. Half the time people leave the military and feel too late in their lives to make something of themselves. They have no passions because they weren't allowed to be anything other than another brick in the wall for however many years. Most won't take advantage of going to college or university (many probably haven't kept up with book learning since they left high school). If they are smart, they will most likely try and quickly get a trade job. However many just end up depressed alcoholics or addicts by 30 thinking they have already wasted their life even though they have at least 30 years (on average) left to live. Sorry, but I agree with the other dude. Its a stupid path to go down. Unless, again, you love bending over for your government. But maybe you can rise through the ranks and be the one telling someone else to bend over one day. Maybe..

[@victorgaba8980]

I imagine this was more a semantic slip than an actual error, but axes aren't really heavier than swords, and can in fact be lighter. The problem comes from the point of balance of the axe, that is further away from your hand, making it harder to bring it to a full stop.

[@dikkie1000]

Stopping an axe or a mace is what the shield, limbs or head of the enemy is for. Swords are a bit dual purpose, cutting and stabbing, both are much less of a structural point load on the end of a lever than an axe.

[@Lord_Tacus]

Double edged axe: exist Shad: and I took that personally

[@georgemorrison458]

It’s better than no weapon in combat

[@Lord_Tacus]

@@georgemorrison458 BIG STICK

[@Mr_Incrediblis]

Shock and Awe would be about the only reason to bring a double headed axe into a fight, BUT some of them look so cool.

[@HolyPineCone]

I always thought the jokes like "mom, the neighbour is out and waving around stuff again" were stupid. But today, I could actually imagine a neighbour watch shad and wonder if he had totally lost it. My god is he waving and raving like a lunatic. Good content though.

[@jessemclean3080]

Except for the camera pointing at him, which kind of justifies a lot of seemingly irrational behaivor.

[@jackwagonsplaylists]

@@jessemclean3080 does it? Does it really

[@jessemclean3080]

@@jackwagonsplaylists yup! Just look at tiktok

[@Orcrist]

He was absolutely raving today...red in the face and huffing about to boot. If it wasn't down under someone would definitely have called the police.

[@Anakin1b]

Shad: Chainmall bikini is reasonable Also Shad: Double edge axe is totaly stupid!

[@yunthi]

ive always thought that for one,chain mail bikini sortof looks sexy so there is that. but the second reason, there are cultures that scar themselves for the cool factor, having scars might be a sign of valor for one like that. but you still might want to keep your reproductive parts (and the baby feeding parts for females) scar free. i do think the purpose is to look sexy, but its not out of realm of possibility to have a barbarian wear a chain mail bikini and have a valid point for it.

[@ignisshadowflame1027]

@@yunthi It also restricts your movement far less than anything else. They very likely would use a shield with it covering defense well enough any ways.

[@righttobearhugs7666]

@@yunthi good point. But theoretically, can’t some culture have a double-headed battle axe for ornate and cultural reasons?

[@shadowsnake5133]

@@righttobearhugs7666 totally, but usually people toss traditional values for survival, especially with weapons, as they historical were used more in general as more people could afford those, so it would be done way less... at least, that's from my understanding, it's totally possible I'm horribly wrong, feel free to argue... assuming I notice, I tend not to come back.

[@seamonkey1236]

@@righttobearhugs7666 It is possible, but it is also just as, if not significantly more, likely that someone realizes that the axe really isn't worth bothering with before double-bladed axes become a staple of a culture. Definitely could be for ornate purposes, like Shad said, they do look cool, but people probably would not bring them to somewhere they were expecting to fight, which is a common depiction of these axes. If someone attacks a city and the guards all had double-bladed axes bc the king thought they looked cool, then yeah they would probably use them, but if you were an adventurer who knows that he is headed towards a fight and has time to plan, then it becomes harder to justify the second head.

[@steveno3141]

Lol its a multi-purpose axe, one side for wood the other side for people.

[@overlordmae9090]

There should be hammer head on the other side so you can show mercy by hitting people with the blunt side.

[@StarSong936]

I used to be a Dungeon Master. None of the players in my games ever chose a double bladed axe as a weapon. Mages had daggers for backup weapons. Thieves had short swords and daggers. Clerics had maces, and fighters used long swords and daggers for short range, or bows for long range combat against opponents with no armor. Note the lack of throwing knives or other thrown weapons. The last thing you want in a fight is for your enemy to pick up the weapon you just threw at them, and have them throw it back in your face, or worse, wield it against you in their fist. As for armor, Mages wore none. Thieves used hardened leather, Clerics could use chain, or plate armor, fighters used hardened leather, chain, or plate armor, depending on what their finances were like. If course, no armor was always an option for all classes when just starting out. Side note: Mages could wear armor but took a penalty on their spells if they did. Dual class mage/fighters could get that penalty negated depending on their training. As a for instance, a battle mage, trained in both magic and sword fighting could wear light armor with no penalty. These were general guidelines, and there were exceptions to those rules, though I was the one with the final call. If the player made their case, I would allow it, but that was rare. On another note, one player got their character elevated to NPC godhood. Not an easy task, and not something you really want to do. I had that happen to a character I played in another related game, and I didn't like it. In my case, it was because I knew too much and the people I was gaming with knew nothing. I showed them just exactly what a level 1 character could really do, but they did not know that as they had never played before. Anyhow, enough about game play. I agree with Shad, double bladed axes are a waste of mass and energy. When it comes to double bladed axes, you're better off with a hatchet. The mass of a double axe would be better used in carrying extra loot, as a for instance. I agree, weight in a game is generally unrealistic, but even at that, there are limits, and those limits are there for a reason. @ 5:44 my players were big fans of portable holes, a-la the road runner. They could put the hole on the ground, store their stuff in it, and have it available when they got to town. This was not available to them until they got to level 15 or more. Most times they had to make it rather than find it. A portable hole required lots of spider silk, and you had to enchant it before weaving it, which required a lot of gold. Even so, it was worth it to them. If you play Minecraft, the equivalent would be an ender chest. @ 9:44 I have a hatchet. There was on time my room mate needed to chop through a tree branch. I handed him the hatchet, and he did not know how to use it. He chopped in the branch for about 3 minutes and got no where. I took it from him and in about 1 minute chopped the branch through. In the process, I showed him how to properly use the tool. It is a workout, and I don't recommend doing it on a hot day unless you have a hose to wet yourself with, and lot's of water to drink.

[@myscreen2urs]

I think a double headed axe is meant to be used effectively like this: When you face an opponent in combat, you give them the double headed axe while you yourself use a single headed with a spike at the back..... or a sword.

[@Baryonyx_Walkeri_62]

Shad: *I don't care if it hurts anyone's feelings* Also Shad: *Keeps repeating remarks about not wanting to insult anybody*

[@Abdul-Akeem_Akinloye]

Balance.

[@bryanmerel]

Well, there's a difference between stating a Fact regardless of how it felt, and actually insulting someone by intent.

[@bryanmerel]

It's basically the difference between informing your friend about their mother's death, regardless of it will make them sad, and calling your enemies mother a Hag as an Insult.

[@sirpence__]

“Say no to too much head” this is going to be used out of context

[@KäptnKrückschwank]

There is no such thing as too much head

[@gggg-hq4td]

@@KäptnKrückschwank I mean, a sword is kinda a short handled, huge headed axe

[@swordzanderson5352]

@@gggg-hq4td And a spear is just a sword with a blacksmith that got the measurements of the blade and the handle messed up

[@trazyntheinfinite9895]

@@swordzanderson5352 this escalated out of handle fast.

[@swordzanderson5352]

@@trazyntheinfinite9895 Frankly, I can't this anymore

[@garrysucks4190]

Solution: Make the shaft of the double sided axe short enough for only one hand. Then dual wield two of these kind of axes, do a few lines of crack or whatever drugs berserkers did, and just go crazy and go stupid.

[@notthedroidsyourelookingfo4026]

I have an idea of how to use the second head well: Take it off, put it on a wooden shaft, give the second axe to someone else and have that person help you in combat. Now THAT'S a benefit.

[@rigrmortis3393]

You beat me to it. Being able to arm a second person is far more beneficial than having a second head. Whether it be another axe or some other weapon that's quite a bit of wasted steel for basically just looking cool.

[@ViolosD2I]

Maybe these were actually two axes disguised as one, so they could be dramatically split before a duel. :p

[@majinnemesis]

@@ViolosD2I sounds like a bloodborne trick weapon and now i want bloodborne to have an axe like that

[@notthedroidsyourelookingfo4026]

@@ViolosD2I like Komari Vosa/Asajj Ventress' twin blades? Definitely a neat trick.

[@kalamir93]

Ye' know... we Dwarfs have a certain piece of literature. It's called "Dammaz Kron" and it's kind of a hall-of-fame-type situation. And now you've made an entry there, laddie! Hooray! \o/

[@undertakernumberone1]

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[@kalamir93]

@@undertakernumberone1 THE THRONG IS MUSTARD!

[@Scuzzlebutt142]

@@kalamir93 Maybe they should be a different condiment then, like Tomato sauce, instead of Mustard?

[@kalamir93]

@@Scuzzlebutt142 That would be possible, yes. But I think we have to search for the possibilities in the ancient laws and codices.

[@pantalonesdemuerto7960]

I think this is one of those weird cases where they're a bad idea in real life, but make perfect sense to include in a fantasy work. Think about who usually uses them: Dwarves and Barbarians. Two groups whose specialties tend to be strength and endurance. If you CAN swing around the heavier axe all day without exhausting yourself, then the extra momentum per swing would itself be enough of an advantage to justify the extra weight, even if you never used the other side. Now, would a second bit be any better than just making a single bit larger? That I'm not sure about one way or the other.

[@TheKe3lz]

Even in a fantasy setting, having a hammer as the other head instead of second axe head would be better. One side to smash, one side to split 👍

[@ellysemilton1309]

@@TheKe3lz Yeah, the main issue seems to be that a double headed axe is just an inefficient halberd.

[@HawaiianForgeStudios]

@@TheKe3lz It depends, in a fantasy setting like OP stated, strength and endurance are key and you wouldnt really need to crush anything because of the fact that users of the battle axe or double headed axe are so strong that theyll just chop and crush through whatever resistance is in their way through brute strength. Warhammers are great for just crush crush stomp stomp but Axes have the crush and chopping power that push them over the edge ever so slightly. I like both however.

[@BVargas78]

I was thinking exactly the same thing, now i don't need to make a post about it so thanks! :)

[@doodtheman2508]

The one advantage that I can think of for the 2nd head would be that you have a backup if your blade dulls or breaks mid-combat. Sure, you can just keep on using it as a hammer at that point, but if you want that cutting ability back you just spin it around and you've got a freshly sharpened war axe.

[@crwcrvida420]

One of my dnd settings has one good example of a practical double bitted combat axe and its inworld name is "the all purpose military axe" one side is thicker for felling trees and splitting wood and the other side is just your standard battleaxe blade, and its essentially that worlds equivalent of the united states millitarys e-tool Edit: forgot to mention the foot scout variation that includes a flat shovel head with a sharpened edge on just the point affectionately dubbed "the micro halberd" given to them as a brush clearing tool and emergency melee weapon for when their bows arent useful